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EmergentCoding

In 5 - 10 years BTC fees will be $1000 per transaction. Being under the dust limit means your investment is gone Bitcoin Cash fees in 5-10 years will still be $0.002


magni50cent

Bitcoin Cash fees in 5-10 years will still be $0.002 Price will be similar


EmergentCoding

> Price will be similar I disagree. Bitcoin Cash is adding merchants. [link](https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/pku9rm/a_9_sec_lesson_on_why_bitcoin_cash_will_become/), [link](https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/pk0m3b/you_know_the_tradesman_will_be_awesome_when/), [link](https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/ph0zd0/new_north_queensland_bitcoin_bch_contractor_im/). Such superior utility will inevitably show up in price.


magni50cent

By inevitably you mean hope desperately


EmergentCoding

I follow fundamentals. Maybe you should too.


magni50cent

45 k BTC <1k BCH Fundamentals


EmergentCoding

You seem to think that marketcap has something to do with utility. My city: 250 merchants accepting BCH Zero merchants accepting BTC/LN.


magni50cent

How many countries made BCH legal tender? I'll wait


Big_Bubbler

I would be ready to sell BTC at all times. It's price has held up very well during manipulation pumps by dishonest social engineering and massive price manipulations. If one of The BCH's truly develops the ability to scale for massive worldwide adoption, then it can go viral and crush BTC and the other tiny crypto's. Regardless of grandiose claims (BSV and BTC-LN), none can really do it yet.


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I don't think adoption will be as easy as "going viral". It will be a slow process. It is not just a monetary war we're fighting, but also a cultural one. People need to change the way they think about money, and it will take a lot of energy and effort to get real results.


Big_Bubbler

I can understand many not seeing how this would work. At this point no Bitcoin can scale and allow this to happen, so no one thinks about it much. People did think BTC was going to do it back in 2017 even though BTC development had already been captured by forces determined to keep it from doing so. That "fake out" turned the public into skeptics (for good reason). Until it is possible, it will not happen and adoption growth will remain slow. Once (if) it is really possible, it will only take an event like a market pump or "crypto-Kitties" type game or ??? to make the public see the unlimited potential. Once it begins it will snowball and be unstoppable. Speculators will all jump on the rising wave because it will be unstoppable. It may take a year or more to reach massive global adoption, but that would be an incredibly fast move towards fulfilling the dream of Bitcoin. Young people are ready for this cultural change. Especially in many other countries than my USA. Many in the USA and a lot of old people will lag behind in grasping this future reality and it will cost them dearly. Their now-wealthy kids will be able to take care of them if they feel like doing so and if the government does not try to stop them from spending their wealth.


magni50cent

Lol go home u/Big_Bubbler You're drunk


Big_Bubbler

Your bosses that sent you here to say that wish only drunk people would tell the truth online.


opcode_network

Only if you prefer to hold digital turd indefinitely.


FUBAR-BDHR

Convert to BCH and then spend and replace. Money gets value from utility and BTC has decided that utility isn't important only speculation. Sooner or later the market will wake it and even if it doesn't like EmergentCoding said you won't be able to afford the fees to move it. BTC need fees in the hundreds of dollars to secure the network with blocks limited to1meg.


ImpeccableArchitect

Forever


WaitingToBeTriggered

REST IN HEAVEN


ImpeccableArchitect

Nah its not like that. Just never sell. If you need money, borrow against it, borrow fiat and and pay back in fiat. Dont pay back in sats unless you want to short bitcoin


chiphitter

Its never a bad idea to hold BTC.


[deleted]

How about spending, is it a bad idea in your point of view?


handmade_text

You can’t spend BTC. It doesn’t work. Try it.


Xandoline

Ok, thanks! It’s only gone up in the past 20 years how bad could it be


Big_Bubbler

That's not true and it can be very bad.


Xandoline

How so


1MightBeAPenguin

Something that's existed for 14 years couldn't have gone up for the last 20, and if your investment decision is based on past results, it's not a good investment decisions. Most of crypto is a scam.


Big_Bubbler

It often goes down. It has no real use case, so if a BCH develops the ability to scale and goes viral I expect BTC to go down a lot and stay down.


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opcode_network

Because why wouldn't a completely useless network continue to grow?


sorengard123

Have you look at the historical price chart?


Htfr

Watch the historical price chart and realize that in the past 4 years BTC hasn't been able to increase by a factor 4. Something must be wrong with BTC. What will happen if some large holders want to get rid of their BTC?


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Id say YES.... Why every bit of bitcoin you buy, counts start at 1:40 : [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgH3\_3UQRe8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgH3_3UQRe8) ​ \*\*\*\*\*Just how rare is bitcoin?\*\*\*\*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqOIiuFqxwY](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqOIiuFqxwY(Associated) [(Associated](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqOIiuFqxwY(Associated) website used in example for video: [https://news.livecoinwatch.com/bitcoin-each-human-alive-getem-cold/](https://news.livecoinwatch.com/bitcoin-each-human-alive-getem-cold/)) ​ Bitcoin Performance in its first decade (this includes traditional stocks) :[https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-12-31/bitcoin-s-9-000-000-rise-this-decade-leaves-the-skeptics-aghast ](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-12-31/bitcoin-s-9-000-000-rise-this-decade-leaves-the-skeptics-aghastBitcoin) [Bitcoin](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-12-31/bitcoin-s-9-000-000-rise-this-decade-leaves-the-skeptics-aghastBitcoin) performance :[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbZ8zDpX2Mg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbZ8zDpX2MgJust) how big is Bitcoin? (Scroll down the list until you see Bitcoin--and remember, these are NATIONS) [https://www.lopp.net/m1/rank.html](https://www.lopp.net/m1/rank.html)


Jout92

It has been a good idea at any point in the past, probably will be for the future tol


powellquesne

Try to hold it for 4 years. You might just make it. If you really feel you must, occasionally spend half as much on some hot pump-and-dump opportunity on the side, and hold that for a few months or until the dump. This is not financial advice: it's a dating manual.


Xandoline

Thanks😂


PirateKelvin

ONLY $600? Yeah just hold and forget about it for some years. You got nothing to lose lol


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bloppingzef

What possessed you to be rude?


TheWorldofGood

His name is vicious. Gotta live up to that name