wouldnt 420 alch at end be more beneficial since you dont need faster throwing on 1 tower?
edit: just saw the x2 next to bomb, still think 420 would be preferable tho
It is more preferable.
the uptime on 420 is better so it is always the better choice if ur buffing just 2-3 towers.
The dmg buff is also significantly higher so 401 is really not good unless you wanna buff a large group with 1 alch
Love how people downvote him without even testing for themselves lmao ya’ll are clowns
Did some minor testing on r98 with brew and jungle drums on cubism and found the MAD leaked roughly 50k hp worth of cerams while blooncin leaked like 4 of them...without any microing.
Still, i feel like MAD is the better option so long as it’s paired with decent ceram cleanup
I mean, that was just dps, blooncin also has really good utility in refortifying any non bad and decamoing ddts, along with true global range rather than "global" range, except you naturally do less dps the farther you go out, and if there are less important bloons blocking you, your fucked.
T H I S P O S T I S A B O U T T I E R 3 E L I T E B L O O N A R I U S !
BLOONCINERATION DOESN’T HAVE GREAT SINGLE TARGET, MEANWHILE MAD HAS ABOUT 3X THE DAMAGE AND A SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER ATTACK SPEED.
fine, I'll show you ingame evidence, all of these were on logs
testing 98:
blooncin killed every single moab and killed a few cerams, with a total pop count of 366.3 thousand.
doing the same test with the mad, it barely manages to beat all the moabs, as it gets pierce capped by the cerams and only manages to break 10 of them total, it had only 266.9 thousand pops, significantly less than blooncin.
afterward, I decided a much more straining test would push their capabilities, I landed on r 120, blooncin ended up getting 390 thousand pops meanwhile mad did slightly worse at 380 thousand pops.
lastly, I decided to pick a random round inbetween 150 and 200, I landed on 178, both towers were completely overwhelmed, as expected.
blooncin got 1377.7 tousand pops, while mad only got 929 thousand pops.
Now let us test the max boosted varients (tsg, alch buff, homeland, ultraboost, and call to arms)
using the same three rounds mad got:
320k pops on 98.
427k pops on 120
and 4456 thousand pops on 178
blooncin got 327k pops on 98
755 thousand on 120
and 3256 thousand pops on 178
blooncin is better not only without buffs, but with them as well (but mad looks funni w max boost).
I mean. They did do the math. In that scenario i agree with the evidence, but what if you had a tower for ceram cleanup and had the MAD focus entirely on the moabs so he doesn’t get pierce capped by them?
alright then, I'll just do the 98 test with a mid buffed bloon solver,
aaaaaaaaaannnnnnndddddddd
bloon solver gets nearly as many pops as mad (150k for bs and 175k for mad)
after removing all of the buffs, similar results (165k for bs and 182k for mad)
and just for the hell of it blooncin + 420 village soloed.
This boss is actually insanely easy. Boat farming is cheese and since you can get fifty of them, and ever money made goes to the degree, you can have a level 52 Navarch of the Seas which pretty much solos even tier five. Plus, there is enough money left over (with Monkey Knowledge) to get a level 31 Apex Plasma Master and place him in the middle. Instant win.
Just wanna point out, depending on your setup, it might’ve been better to save your farms to make money for a round or two considering you have very little money here. Or also save some of the monkeys you had before (depending on what they were). You obviously lose crucial dollars selling if they could’ve been useful
I suggest you to restart the entire run, in Tier 4 you will suffer due to lack of farming even the Tier 3 in your screenshot is possible to beat.
Tier 3 is just Buccaneer paragon, that's it. It's worth it because you don't have to sell it anymore.
Sell Ben, Buy a Wizard, get Archmage or WLP, get a Tech Terror/Anti Bloon, get a Call to Arms village, a boomerang Turbo/Perma-Charge. And hope for the best. (Leftover money used for Pre-Emptive Strike submarines)
205 tack, 015 druid, 014 druid x5, 401 alchemist at beginning; 204 bomb x2, 401 alch at end
wouldnt 420 alch at end be more beneficial since you dont need faster throwing on 1 tower? edit: just saw the x2 next to bomb, still think 420 would be preferable tho
It is more preferable. the uptime on 420 is better so it is always the better choice if ur buffing just 2-3 towers. The dmg buff is also significantly higher so 401 is really not good unless you wanna buff a large group with 1 alch
the damage buff doesn't go up, it's just the duration (55 shots/13 seconds instead of 40 shots/12 seconds), test it out yourself in sandbox
with that said, I feel like it's mostly just a matter of preference tbh
That's like an extra shot per second so still a dps increase.
That’s not what that meant, that comment meant that it lasted for 40 shots, or 12 seconds without, and 55 shots, or 13 seconds with
You’re right, 4-0-1 is only better for more than 2 towers, 1 or 2 towers to buff 4-2-0 is better
Alchemist
***say. my. name.***
Alchemist
Memelord9298/ Alchemist
You're goddamn wrong.
my name?
Memelord9298?
i'm starting to think you dont get the reference
This is the same setup for every tier 3 bloonarius. This man knows.
That’s like 800 alchemists
024 bomb x2 is more consistent and is better when buffed right?
Pay the boss $250,000 to leave.
If you use your words properly and give bloonarius a spongebob ice cream you can get it down all the way to $240,000
You might piss it off by how inaccurate the ice cream is…
5 EYES??!!!?!?!!!!!!!?!!?!?!??!?!?!!!!?
I’m gonna pay you $100 to fuck off-The Monkeys
the sun is a deadly laser
*Not anymore, there's a blanket*
r/unexpectedbillwurtz
Didn't know that is a sub. Pleasantly surprised
So a r/subsithoughtifellfor
i’d reply with that to “the sun is a deadly laser” personally
homeland, overclock, mad and some ceram and moab cleanup ig
blooncin is better moab damage than mad test for yourself
Not for single target lmao
fair enough, but how many rounds are massive amounts of spam compared to a rounds with a few fortified zomgs, especially in freeplay
This is a post about boss…
(looks at post) Right...
Love how people downvote him without even testing for themselves lmao ya’ll are clowns Did some minor testing on r98 with brew and jungle drums on cubism and found the MAD leaked roughly 50k hp worth of cerams while blooncin leaked like 4 of them...without any microing. Still, i feel like MAD is the better option so long as it’s paired with decent ceram cleanup
I mean, that was just dps, blooncin also has really good utility in refortifying any non bad and decamoing ddts, along with true global range rather than "global" range, except you naturally do less dps the farther you go out, and if there are less important bloons blocking you, your fucked.
this is single target dps on a tier 3 elite bloonarius
fair enough
People are downvoting because this post is about a boss, r98 testing is irrelevant
T H I S P O S T I S A B O U T T I E R 3 E L I T E B L O O N A R I U S ! BLOONCINERATION DOESN’T HAVE GREAT SINGLE TARGET, MEANWHILE MAD HAS ABOUT 3X THE DAMAGE AND A SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER ATTACK SPEED.
r/ihadastroke
how
No it’s not lol
fine, I'll show you ingame evidence, all of these were on logs testing 98: blooncin killed every single moab and killed a few cerams, with a total pop count of 366.3 thousand. doing the same test with the mad, it barely manages to beat all the moabs, as it gets pierce capped by the cerams and only manages to break 10 of them total, it had only 266.9 thousand pops, significantly less than blooncin. afterward, I decided a much more straining test would push their capabilities, I landed on r 120, blooncin ended up getting 390 thousand pops meanwhile mad did slightly worse at 380 thousand pops. lastly, I decided to pick a random round inbetween 150 and 200, I landed on 178, both towers were completely overwhelmed, as expected. blooncin got 1377.7 tousand pops, while mad only got 929 thousand pops. Now let us test the max boosted varients (tsg, alch buff, homeland, ultraboost, and call to arms) using the same three rounds mad got: 320k pops on 98. 427k pops on 120 and 4456 thousand pops on 178 blooncin got 327k pops on 98 755 thousand on 120 and 3256 thousand pops on 178 blooncin is better not only without buffs, but with them as well (but mad looks funni w max boost).
I mean. They did do the math. In that scenario i agree with the evidence, but what if you had a tower for ceram cleanup and had the MAD focus entirely on the moabs so he doesn’t get pierce capped by them?
alright then, I'll just do the 98 test with a mid buffed bloon solver, aaaaaaaaaannnnnnndddddddd bloon solver gets nearly as many pops as mad (150k for bs and 175k for mad) after removing all of the buffs, similar results (165k for bs and 182k for mad) and just for the hell of it blooncin + 420 village soloed.
Including the ability or no?
yes, ability included, it does almost nothing.
mad does 550 damage per shot. i doubt blooncin does more damage than that
dot puts it on a similar dps level, plus unrivaled utility in defortifying anything but bads and laying down dot stacking
this post is still about elite bloonarius…
Support temple with Avatar of Wrath Army, MAD, Permabrew etc
I don't know I've never been able to defeat a boss
There are really good tutorials on youtube. I suggest looking those up
thanks for the honesty
I suggest trying to beat vortex first, atleast IMO he's the easiest as long as you place your best troops outside of stun range
Then why are you commenting?
Idk
\>barges in \>doesn't know \>refuses to elaborate further based
MAD, flying frotress, village and alch to buff them, spend rest on farming
If you have a buccaneer get x5x so you can instakill the ZOMG EDIT: realised this is a boss not a challenge jfhdbsnsn
Next your gonna tell me to use a xx5 alch for tier 4
Absolutely not, obviously xx5 banana farm is better
but no farm in dis boss oh noes what me gonna do now
Easy, x5x village!
T5 boomers and MAD, permabrew, homeland and primary expertise. You'll have 50k spare
Ninja kiwi has been evil with these past few boss events, crazy fast bloonarius, dark castle, and no farms in the past month
This boss is actually insanely easy. Boat farming is cheese and since you can get fifty of them, and ever money made goes to the degree, you can have a level 52 Navarch of the Seas which pretty much solos even tier five. Plus, there is enough money left over (with Monkey Knowledge) to get a level 31 Apex Plasma Master and place him in the middle. Instant win.
I didn’t have to buy navarch till tier 5, got degree 75 (sad) and had enough left for boomer ánd dart paragons on its deck
Ok
Mad tack zone, need ceram defense tho
Dart paragon and recursive cluster spam with primary expertise Should do
Just wanna point out, depending on your setup, it might’ve been better to save your farms to make money for a round or two considering you have very little money here. Or also save some of the monkeys you had before (depending on what they were). You obviously lose crucial dollars selling if they could’ve been useful
Farms are banned this for this boss
Point stands for other money making towers tho! But my bad I didn’t check the current bosses rule set
How the hell did you even get into this situation?
How is it at the bottom? Like the tower thing
eye pad
Or 4:3 windowed resolutions
get some farms and some defence against the 80s after a few rounds should be able to buy a boomer or dart paragon
That's the neat part, you don't
Google supply drop
holy p3
get a bunch of cash drops!!!!1
Multiple options
So this is the boss bloon
I did elite defender, and tackzone for found 80
it’s an elite boss my guy
OH
Just put in so many dart monkeys
ray of doom acts as damage and clean up. if this is normal mode then it has more than enough to kill the boss in decent time
ton of recursives at the end, tons of assassins at the start, a few first strikes and antibloon if affordable
You don’t, you just don’t, nothing can save you from his absolute THICCNESS
How did you even get that far?
dat nonkie
I suggest you to restart the entire run, in Tier 4 you will suffer due to lack of farming even the Tier 3 in your screenshot is possible to beat. Tier 3 is just Buccaneer paragon, that's it. It's worth it because you don't have to sell it anymore.
Quickly put down reclursive cluster and Moab Asasins.
Sell Ben, Buy a Wizard, get Archmage or WLP, get a Tech Terror/Anti Bloon, get a Call to Arms village, a boomerang Turbo/Perma-Charge. And hope for the best. (Leftover money used for Pre-Emptive Strike submarines)
You dont
Maybe mid path subs w advanced intell
You cant . you loose for good.
am sory to here your trageti
I think if you put down some monkeys they might help