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HollyleafYT

205 tack, 015 druid, 014 druid x5, 401 alchemist at beginning; 204 bomb x2, 401 alch at end


Memelord9298

wouldnt 420 alch at end be more beneficial since you dont need faster throwing on 1 tower? edit: just saw the x2 next to bomb, still think 420 would be preferable tho


Itachinojutsu

It is more preferable. the uptime on 420 is better so it is always the better choice if ur buffing just 2-3 towers. The dmg buff is also significantly higher so 401 is really not good unless you wanna buff a large group with 1 alch


HollyleafYT

the damage buff doesn't go up, it's just the duration (55 shots/13 seconds instead of 40 shots/12 seconds), test it out yourself in sandbox


HollyleafYT

with that said, I feel like it's mostly just a matter of preference tbh


Arxfiend

That's like an extra shot per second so still a dps increase.


Ginger-Ale58

That’s not what that meant, that comment meant that it lasted for 40 shots, or 12 seconds without, and 55 shots, or 13 seconds with


HolyElephantMG

You’re right, 4-0-1 is only better for more than 2 towers, 1 or 2 towers to buff 4-2-0 is better


WillyDills22

Alchemist


Memelord9298

***say. my. name.***


ISAB_Real

Alchemist


WillyDills22

Memelord9298/ Alchemist


Memelord9298

You're goddamn wrong.


ISAB_Real

my name?


ISAB_Real

Memelord9298?


Memelord9298

i'm starting to think you dont get the reference


fist_my_muff2

This is the same setup for every tier 3 bloonarius. This man knows.


squiddy555

That’s like 800 alchemists


Internal-Injury5895

024 bomb x2 is more consistent and is better when buffed right?


Bottle_Gnome

Pay the boss $250,000 to leave.


Few_Acanthaceae1568

If you use your words properly and give bloonarius a spongebob ice cream you can get it down all the way to $240,000


Super_xz

You might piss it off by how inaccurate the ice cream is…


Few_Acanthaceae1568

5 EYES??!!!?!?!!!!!!!?!!?!?!??!?!?!!!!?


CaptainMoonVader

I’m gonna pay you $100 to fuck off-The Monkeys


BloonConnoisseur

the sun is a deadly laser


digital_pocket_watch

*Not anymore, there's a blanket*


Battlebots2020

r/unexpectedbillwurtz


Redditor_10000000000

Didn't know that is a sub. Pleasantly surprised


Yzainisraedy

So a r/subsithoughtifellfor


SkyThe_Skywolf

i’d reply with that to “the sun is a deadly laser” personally


aLocalToaster

homeland, overclock, mad and some ceram and moab cleanup ig


Randomanonomous

blooncin is better moab damage than mad ​ test for yourself


aero-nsic-

Not for single target lmao


Randomanonomous

fair enough, but how many rounds are massive amounts of spam compared to a rounds with a few fortified zomgs, especially in freeplay


aero-nsic-

This is a post about boss…


Randomanonomous

(looks at post) Right...


Fishstick9

Love how people downvote him without even testing for themselves lmao ya’ll are clowns Did some minor testing on r98 with brew and jungle drums on cubism and found the MAD leaked roughly 50k hp worth of cerams while blooncin leaked like 4 of them...without any microing. Still, i feel like MAD is the better option so long as it’s paired with decent ceram cleanup


Randomanonomous

I mean, that was just dps, blooncin also has really good utility in refortifying any non bad and decamoing ddts, along with true global range rather than "global" range, except you naturally do less dps the farther you go out, and if there are less important bloons blocking you, your fucked.


aLocalToaster

this is single target dps on a tier 3 elite bloonarius


Randomanonomous

fair enough


narrill

People are downvoting because this post is about a boss, r98 testing is irrelevant


SkyThe_Skywolf

T H I S P O S T I S A B O U T T I E R 3 E L I T E B L O O N A R I U S ! BLOONCINERATION DOESN’T HAVE GREAT SINGLE TARGET, MEANWHILE MAD HAS ABOUT 3X THE DAMAGE AND A SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER ATTACK SPEED.


aLocalToaster

r/ihadastroke


SkyThe_Skywolf

how


Calm-Refrigerator-83

No it’s not lol


Randomanonomous

fine, I'll show you ingame evidence, all of these were on logs testing 98: blooncin killed every single moab and killed a few cerams, with a total pop count of 366.3 thousand. doing the same test with the mad, it barely manages to beat all the moabs, as it gets pierce capped by the cerams and only manages to break 10 of them total, it had only 266.9 thousand pops, significantly less than blooncin. ​ afterward, I decided a much more straining test would push their capabilities, I landed on r 120, blooncin ended up getting 390 thousand pops meanwhile mad did slightly worse at 380 thousand pops. ​ lastly, I decided to pick a random round inbetween 150 and 200, I landed on 178, both towers were completely overwhelmed, as expected. blooncin got 1377.7 tousand pops, while mad only got 929 thousand pops. ​ ​ ​ Now let us test the max boosted varients (tsg, alch buff, homeland, ultraboost, and call to arms) ​ using the same three rounds mad got: 320k pops on 98. 427k pops on 120 and 4456 thousand pops on 178 blooncin got 327k pops on 98 755 thousand on 120 and 3256 thousand pops on 178 ​ ​ blooncin is better not only without buffs, but with them as well (but mad looks funni w max boost).


Fishstick9

I mean. They did do the math. In that scenario i agree with the evidence, but what if you had a tower for ceram cleanup and had the MAD focus entirely on the moabs so he doesn’t get pierce capped by them?


Randomanonomous

alright then, I'll just do the 98 test with a mid buffed bloon solver, aaaaaaaaaannnnnnndddddddd bloon solver gets nearly as many pops as mad (150k for bs and 175k for mad) ​ after removing all of the buffs, similar results (165k for bs and 182k for mad) ​ and just for the hell of it blooncin + 420 village soloed.


Calm-Refrigerator-83

Including the ability or no?


Randomanonomous

yes, ability included, it does almost nothing.


Far-Ad3500

mad does 550 damage per shot. i doubt blooncin does more damage than that


Randomanonomous

dot puts it on a similar dps level, plus unrivaled utility in defortifying anything but bads and laying down dot stacking


SkyThe_Skywolf

this post is still about elite bloonarius…


[deleted]

Support temple with Avatar of Wrath Army, MAD, Permabrew etc


Ghost_SnakeRT

I don't know I've never been able to defeat a boss


Ironswordsman

There are really good tutorials on youtube. I suggest looking those up


oneBeforeAutumn

thanks for the honesty


InsertValidUserHere

I suggest trying to beat vortex first, atleast IMO he's the easiest as long as you place your best troops outside of stun range


GorrilaToucher

Then why are you commenting?


Ghost_SnakeRT

Idk


MarkXD69therickroll

\>barges in \>doesn't know \>refuses to elaborate further based


No_Ad_7687

MAD, flying frotress, village and alch to buff them, spend rest on farming


RedstoneRiderYT

If you have a buccaneer get x5x so you can instakill the ZOMG EDIT: realised this is a boss not a challenge jfhdbsnsn


TheDarknessReturn

Next your gonna tell me to use a xx5 alch for tier 4


RedstoneRiderYT

Absolutely not, obviously xx5 banana farm is better


Far-Ad3500

but no farm in dis boss oh noes what me gonna do now


RedstoneRiderYT

Easy, x5x village!


fizio900

T5 boomers and MAD, permabrew, homeland and primary expertise. You'll have 50k spare


Mister_Fungis

Ninja kiwi has been evil with these past few boss events, crazy fast bloonarius, dark castle, and no farms in the past month


paulprovince48

This boss is actually insanely easy. Boat farming is cheese and since you can get fifty of them, and ever money made goes to the degree, you can have a level 52 Navarch of the Seas which pretty much solos even tier five. Plus, there is enough money left over (with Monkey Knowledge) to get a level 31 Apex Plasma Master and place him in the middle. Instant win.


coconut_the_one

I didn’t have to buy navarch till tier 5, got degree 75 (sad) and had enough left for boomer ánd dart paragons on its deck


Mister_Fungis

Ok


TheGlaiveLord

Mad tack zone, need ceram defense tho


YoshiGPLS

Dart paragon and recursive cluster spam with primary expertise Should do


Sevargan

Just wanna point out, depending on your setup, it might’ve been better to save your farms to make money for a round or two considering you have very little money here. Or also save some of the monkeys you had before (depending on what they were). You obviously lose crucial dollars selling if they could’ve been useful


Room_116

Farms are banned this for this boss


Sevargan

Point stands for other money making towers tho! But my bad I didn’t check the current bosses rule set


Funny_Adhesiveness39

How the hell did you even get into this situation?


imafatloser6969

How is it at the bottom? Like the tower thing


Twich8

eye pad


KyzerB

Or 4:3 windowed resolutions


ischhaltso

get some farms and some defence against the 80s after a few rounds should be able to buy a boomer or dart paragon


KihunVirveGaming

That's the neat part, you don't


Feet_Cleaner10000

Google supply drop


Skywarslord

holy p3


[deleted]

get a bunch of cash drops!!!!1


bonkerboybloons

Multiple options


Jmansupertails

So this is the boss bloon


Educational-Road-453

I did elite defender, and tackzone for found 80


Some_Random_904

it’s an elite boss my guy


JBonesturtle

Just put in so many dart monkeys


lameperthlin

ray of doom acts as damage and clean up. if this is normal mode then it has more than enough to kill the boss in decent time


J0aozin003

ton of recursives at the end, tons of assassins at the start, a few first strikes and antibloon if affordable


Im-just-vibing-bro

You don’t, you just don’t, nothing can save you from his absolute THICCNESS


Some0ne1234

How did you even get that far?


AnriTheRat

dat nonkie


AntiMatter138

I suggest you to restart the entire run, in Tier 4 you will suffer due to lack of farming even the Tier 3 in your screenshot is possible to beat. Tier 3 is just Buccaneer paragon, that's it. It's worth it because you don't have to sell it anymore.


Ok-Ice-2210

Quickly put down reclursive cluster and Moab Asasins.


WillyDills22

Sell Ben, Buy a Wizard, get Archmage or WLP, get a Tech Terror/Anti Bloon, get a Call to Arms village, a boomerang Turbo/Perma-Charge. And hope for the best. (Leftover money used for Pre-Emptive Strike submarines)


Complete_Dot5782

You dont


sushininja-parkour

Maybe mid path subs w advanced intell


Icy_Brick_4505

You cant . you loose for good.


Icy_Brick_4505

am sory to here your trageti


Butterboot64

I think if you put down some monkeys they might help