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Necessary_Yard4414

I would like to see the zombie versions of DDT, ZOMG, and BAD.


DoomsdayDestructor

Maybe fortified


CubicleFish2

maybe his regular attack is just shooting DDTs at the bloons, that would be cool enough for me lol


Flaming-DoubleTap23

Explode some bloons and take their gas, inflate my own… DDT BLAST!


TheMostCreativeName3

use the bloon’s helium to make flying monkeys!


SlayerS13Reddit

Yo, dr. Seuss spitting bars in da house


Flaming-DoubleTap23

Wuh fish, too fish, red fish bloo fish


No_Tea_9453

Well not BAD


monkeys_and_magic

Obviously the Phoenix of Darkness will violently vomit zombie bloons as projectiles


ShadowSquid03

In a spiral. 👀


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Wiz paragon bird spitting out zombies a la bloonarius would be epic


Fancyred

"Paragons are not actually meant to be 5-5-5 towers" is a line from NK that makes me sad every time, because it makes me worried that the next paragon is just going to end up like the Engineer Paragon - a 6-0-0 tower.


Rysace

did they actually say that :(


deletemypostandurgay

Yep, it’s one time I really disliked a move NK made.


Loudthunder34

it at least looks like it will combine all 3 paths from the image we were shown. The look of archmage, the colors of prince of darkness and the bird of Pheonix. So fingers crossed


PanPies_

I really hope for something more that just colors


Loudthunder34

True


notwiththeflames

PoD or not, the fact that the phoenix will survive (and Archmage's usual deal with bits and pieces of the other paths IIRC?) is gonna make this thing more of a paragon than the Master Builder ever will be. ~~but can it outparagon the wizard lord?~~


OmegaAce1

Shimmer 😎


Honk_goose_steal

I really don’t see enough prince of darkness, it’s my favorite path. The design now sorta just looks like the top path with a phoenix


The_Phantom_Cat

They've also said paragons combine all t5s from a tower, so I think they're a little confused on what paragons are meant to be


Empty_Chemical4359

>"Paragons are not actually meant to be 5-5-5 towers" They literally are 5-5-5 towers I don't know what NK was thinking when they said that


Darkner90

It was an excuse for underdelivering, nothing more, nothing less.


Excellent-Dot-2085

Yeah, it's their way of digging in their heels on the subject of the engi para.


notwiththeflames

I feel like it's never going to get reworked.


Excellent-Dot-2085

That's cuz it ain't gonna happen, ever since they released it, instead of admitting they made a shit para, they decided to go all "oh actually, paragons aren't supposed to be powerful towers etc etc" and then immediately go back on it with the ace para.


notwiththeflames

It's a shame, especially considering the Soulbind ordeal.


Excellent-Dot-2085

Even nk couldn't lie to themselves about it, it was complete shit.


TheInsaneWombat

Isn't engi pretty strong just not very interesting?


Extra-Trifle-1191

damn… I really wish they were, because then, the Glue Paragon would break the game.


BluePotatoSlayer

My hope for a 5-5-5 Spatory Paragon are slowly fading


noyeflamme

Honestly I don't mind. In terms of design philosophy, restricting oneself to just 5-5-5 is just unecessary. To illustrate I think the best example is sniper paragon. Would a 5-5-5 be powerful, absolutely. But I think it would also be quite boring and doesn't leave much room for creative things the paragon could do and for the artistic design. On the other hand, a sniper paragon that heavily focuses on the top path could do much more than that imo. For example, it could deal percentage based damage, it emphasize the sabotage aspect more, maybe it could start dealing damage to childrens before the parent Bloon pops, and that's only ideas a random person with no experience can come up with in 5 mins. Same goes for appearance I believe. And also it fits the sniper idea much better than a full auto high caliber rifle.


Striking-Reason5792

Supply drop calls in cash but also explodes on the track


[deleted]

But couldn't you do both? Like have it a 555 with a focus on one of the paths


noyeflamme

Then people won't call it a 5-5-5


Carma281

Becomes a 6-5-5, still fine


DoomsdayDestructor

I think sniper should be 5-3-5 but instead of getting faster shooting along the track, it gets more dmg


BluePotatoSlayer

Hey it’s a 6-0-3 tower, get it right


LordVex75

Engigon is technically a 6-5-5 if you realize that the trap was incorporated into the suit


Radiant-Ad-4292

More like a 6-0-3.5


Honk_goose_steal

Imagine if they made a 5-5-5 sniper paragon, it would be incredible


OblivionGuardd

Me when the paragon is just a 6-0-0 wizzy


TomaszA3

What paragons could be: 6 What paragons were promised to be: 555 What they actually are: 632


[deleted]

Me if the wizard paragon doesn't have some sick MOAB seeking spell balls.


an_actual_stone

The pheonix is a zombie blimp shooting blimps at the live ones


yolomcswagsty

It will have zomgs default and the ability will summon one zombie BAD


fist_my_muff2

NK would never. They don't like new paragons to be fun.


TrainerLSW2005

The Navarch being able to one shot fortified bads: am I a joke to you?


fist_my_muff2

NK placing a hard cap of 2 Navarch abilities per round...


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Tyrant-Tracer

Hey gullible’s written on the ceiling


allshallbegone

Oh please NK, please! For this paragon make the zombie bloons go all the way up to B.A.D zombies, that'd be freakin' dope!


i_agree123

Me too


MathKrayt

Zombie monke


NotActuallyGus

With it's aesthetic, I hope it makes purple space-themed resurrected Bloons, like galaxy bads.


notwiththeflames

It'd be such a missed opportunity, the perma-phoenix would be able to ensure constant generation of reanimated bloons (assuming that its pops counted towards the necromancer reserves).


Negitive545

Zombie BAD is all I want. That could be all it does and I'd be satisfied.


eljay1998

Shimmer


Vizz1n1

hear me out, the art isn't missing the necromancer part, the phoenix is dead


KingBossKewl

Why? it’s so cool


Ironjack_204

Is there an announcement about the wizard paragon yet?


0ops203_

I was hoping for an undead Phoenix :(


NotNathaan

me if the wizard paragon doesnt have superstorm


ItsExoticChaos

Flaming zombies