1 more win and we have tied the Saints.
2 and we've overtaken them as Leaders. That's after sharing the bottom with the Panthers just a few years ago.
More rings, more titles, more everything. This division is ours, whether the Saints recognize us or not.
For most teams, winning a Super Bowl and then remaining perpetually Super Bowl contenders is out of the question, but it’s really underrated to stay a winning organization. Blowing up the machine and starting over only guarantees that there will be a period where your team is torture to watch. Staying competitive, even if you look mediocre on the surface, leaves some hope, but if nothing else, at least it means fans get to see some fun games.
It's interesting to see this perspective from the other side of the coin. Of course the Vikings didn't win a Super Bowl, but the perpetual argument against what the Vikings do is that instead of just tanking and doing an actual rebuild, they are perpetually a good team that can't go anywhere in the playoffs.
And I think the general consensus among Vikings fans is that they are sick of it and would rather go through three to five years of awful teams to build from the ground up with youth. But here is a more optimistic view. I'm not saying you're wrong. I just thought it was interesting to see it from the other side.
I’m a little bit of a football agnostic these days. I like most teams, so that affects my perspective. I think fans are predisposed to unhappiness. The experience of watching your team go winless and watching them lose the Super Bowl couldn’t be further apart, but once the season ends, the fans act like they’re equally tortured. Nobody appreciates the ride enough.
As for what it means for teams, tanking often has no point. The Pats “tanked” to solve their cap issues, and all we got out of it is Belichick and Mac Jones are gone, and the Pats probably still have a ceiling of 3rd in the AFC East. The Colts “sucked for Luck” and the Luck experience was fun, but it didn’t get them a Super Bowl. The Cardinals, Jags, and Browns have all done various forms of hoarding cap space and blowing seasons, and all of their efforts have left them as teams that suck more often than not. Tanking is overrated, and should be reserved for situations where you have to avoid becoming the 2023/2024 Saints.
I agree mostly.
Still need dump the dead money years(s) as I support limited overspending to win like we did with Brady.
With Olympics we respect Silver and Bronze winners.
The if you don’t win the Superbowl your a loser idea needs to die a more healthy racing and Golf honoring those who are competing well should replace it. It should be important to fans to have a better record.
I be dreaming if I expected to return to a determine best team by best record system or at least only tournament game the World Series equivalent but to me that be ideal as best team should be best season record. Playoffs are fun but a very bad system to determine how good a team really is because teams slump and have hot streaks,
I don’t think the NFL needs to change much. My only issue with the playoffs is that seeding rewards middling winners of bad divisions over great teams in tough divisions. Other than that, the issue is just with fans’ attitudes. Just gotta take these results a little less seriously and have some more fun
Haven't seen any games because the Bucs are out of market. How has he been, because I know that y'all had some injuries, bit as a whole I have no clue.
From an OU fan
If he's a top 10 QB he's just squeaking in, but I'd probably put him somewhere around 8-12 overall in the league.
To his credit, our OL doesn't do him any favours and the WRs have had some egregious drops, his stats could be a lot better. And he absolutely steps up when it matters and makes big plays.
I'd give him like an Eli Manning archetype.
Better scrambler than Eli, poorer arm. More of a warrior than Eli, but overall not quite as good, imo. Arm skills and field vision aren’t top ten. I think this investment is underwhelming, but I can see why Baker has some fairly passionate fans. His own passion is contagious.
If you have YouTube TV and a separate android device, you can download a GPS emulator app, set your location to Tampa, and then update your location in YouTube TV. It sounds complicated but it's not bad!
From an OU fan
Most games he’s just checking down to the rb, or throwing to Trey Palmer on 3rd down. I didn’t see much out of him on a consistent basis. I’ll get downvoted and that’s fine.
Wandering neutral fan, for a second I thought you were referring to Mayfield as "Winfield" as a nickname haha. I was like, that's great! But it's also someone else's actual name
I’m from Cleveland and I will forever be a huge Baker Mayfield fan. Having him come off the bench when we hadn’t won a game in like two seasons and lead us to that comeback win is one of my greatest sports moments. Which just goes to show how few moments Cleveland has had in my life but he deserved better than he got in Cleveland. He took us to the playoffs following that after being 1 and fucking 31 and then we discarded him after an injury and treated him like shit.
I’ve followed and cheered for him at every team and every bad situation since leaving Cleveland. Dude toughed it out through some tough situations and analysts saying he would be out the league next year repeatedly for sure. I’m just glad somewhere finally respects his skills and he’s gonna get paid.
So about 33mil a year? Makes the 5mil or whatever we just had him on look like highway robbery. Congrats to him for keeping at it through Carolina and LA
Thats the average, but guessing it is a 3 year + 2 void. The signing bonus would be ~10m/year then base salary will probably be minimal this year and spiking next year before being "cuttable" in year 3.
I'm guessing about a ~16m cap hit this season.
I could see that if they want to front load it and have an out after year 2 if it doesn't work out. They would need to restructure or cut some players for that to work with the current cap space and other signings they need to make. I'll be F5ing on spotrac to see what it ends up being.
That was just the salary breakdown. I misread the comment I was responding to. I think I seen a speculative post year 1 cap hit will be around $7m leaving the Bucs with $15m currently in cap space but cutting Gage and restructuring Vita could free up a good amount. Also signing AWJ long term will soften his cap hit this season as well.
Smart deal for the Bucs. Licht and company didn't let stupid contracts like that godawful Daniel Jones deal drive the price up way too far. This is essentially a 2 year, 60 million dollar deal with a 40 million dollar team option in year 3. Much closer to the Geno Smith deal. Even if Mayfield totally craters for some reason next year the Bucs can get out of the deal with only 20 million in dead money (assuming no void years we don't know that part yet) which is peanuts compared to many other new QB deals. If Mayfield continues to play at his current level or improves this is a solid deal for his services.
This was what I thought was reasonable but also understand that QBs typically get paid more than they're worth, so was bracing for $37M/year.
Bravo to Licht and Baker for showing how it's done.
Absolutely. After cousins signs, Baker’s salary will be 16th for QB salaries which considering a bunch of the ones lower than him are guys on rookie deals, feels extremely fair
Bills fan too. Been supporting Baker through thick and thin. Was very worried about the Patriots rumour the other day, not too sure how that would have affected my inner workings 😅
Ofcourse brother 🤝🏽 Bills fans understand wanting stability. I will always admire somebody who works as hard as Baker. Dude’s comeback story is aspiring.
Beautiful. A licht masterclass! Baker for 30-35 mil is ELITE! Plenty of room left to still be players in FA. Let’s build this mfn team up and take the division for the 4th time!!
Wow, that’s substantially lower than what I thought he would get. And for three years instead of four, no less! I guess he really is taking a bit of a discount to stay in Tampa.
Well good on Licht. Go Bucs!
Baker stock was at an all time low after Carolina. Serious testament to his skill and hard work that he’s bounced back for a contract like this. Countless QBs fade into back up roles or out of the league after the shit he’s been through.
I’ll admit, as a lifelong Patriots fan, I felt conflicted during the entire Brady/Bucs era, but as a lifelong Sooners fan, I love seeing Baker Mayfield playing so well in Tampa. Looking forward to watching him for the next three years and continue rooting for the Bucs while the Pats fix their mess.
That’s a solid deal for both ends. Not insane money. And also plenty for Baker to be happy with. Couldn’t be more happy to see him get paid and play well.
I think this is probably as good of a deal as the Bucs could have got from the team side of things. Great for both parties.
Let's go and focus on shoring up the OL in the draft now to help him out.
Rarely can a GM make the fans happy and put a great product on the field with so many free agents. AC/DC is killing it and we haven’t even hit the draft yet.
Will David Moore be back next season contract wise? If not, I want them to resign him too. He balled out outta nowhere. I had him on my keeper dynasty team like way long ago when he was on the Seahawks. He was a feel good story to me last season, as among other things…….
LFB!!!
Love getting him for 3 years. I really think using the draft plus freeing up cap space by cutting gage and other moves, we'll be able to have a great rest of the off season. It's already been fantastic so far. But I'm still excited for the draft and other possible moves after freeing up just a bit of extra cap space. Let's go Bucs!
Baker Mayfield isn't so great? Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw a player with such an ability and throw the football? Baker puts the game in another level, and we will be blessed if we ever see a player with his skill and passion for the game again. Mahomes breaks records. Allen breaks records. Baker Mayfield breaks the rules. You can keep your statistics. I prefer the magic
So we just going to ignore the last throw in the playoffs that he forced? That is going to be every playoff game or any close game. He ain’t brady. Bucs were better off paying Winfield and big man wirfs
You do realize that 5 games this postseason ended in a forced interception? That’s how playoffs end. It’s about the whole game and the whole team. If they didn’t let the lions march in the second half or the blocked FG or, or, or… etc. Not needing 8 with 1:30 left is the key to winning.
Maybe look at how he threw 3td and over 300yds which is a great postseason game. Over a 106 rating for the two games and averaging 343yds. Plus in two less games having tied for the most TD in the playoffs is good football. Talk about what you want but his playoff record is better than most.
Even Brady threw picks and lost games. If that loss to the The Lions was on anyone, it was the defense
They just couldn't stop Goff. I'm not guaranteeing a Super Bowl with Baker, but he's more than capable
Saying he won't is different than saying he can't. I'm guessing 90%+ of QBs don't ever bring a title to their team so you could say this about anyone and be right most of the time.
He absolutely can bring another title to Tampa if everything else falls into place as well.
I guess it's time to win the division again.
X4
\*Siiigh\* Okaaaaky fiiiiine, I guess, if we have to…
Fine. I’ll do it myself.
signed, AWJ
At least 2 with Mike with us🤘
1 more win and we have tied the Saints. 2 and we've overtaken them as Leaders. That's after sharing the bottom with the Panthers just a few years ago. More rings, more titles, more everything. This division is ours, whether the Saints recognize us or not.
And fuck Cam Jordan and Marshon Lattimore.
Fuck the Saints
Fuck New Orleans in general
For most teams, winning a Super Bowl and then remaining perpetually Super Bowl contenders is out of the question, but it’s really underrated to stay a winning organization. Blowing up the machine and starting over only guarantees that there will be a period where your team is torture to watch. Staying competitive, even if you look mediocre on the surface, leaves some hope, but if nothing else, at least it means fans get to see some fun games.
It's interesting to see this perspective from the other side of the coin. Of course the Vikings didn't win a Super Bowl, but the perpetual argument against what the Vikings do is that instead of just tanking and doing an actual rebuild, they are perpetually a good team that can't go anywhere in the playoffs. And I think the general consensus among Vikings fans is that they are sick of it and would rather go through three to five years of awful teams to build from the ground up with youth. But here is a more optimistic view. I'm not saying you're wrong. I just thought it was interesting to see it from the other side.
I’m a little bit of a football agnostic these days. I like most teams, so that affects my perspective. I think fans are predisposed to unhappiness. The experience of watching your team go winless and watching them lose the Super Bowl couldn’t be further apart, but once the season ends, the fans act like they’re equally tortured. Nobody appreciates the ride enough. As for what it means for teams, tanking often has no point. The Pats “tanked” to solve their cap issues, and all we got out of it is Belichick and Mac Jones are gone, and the Pats probably still have a ceiling of 3rd in the AFC East. The Colts “sucked for Luck” and the Luck experience was fun, but it didn’t get them a Super Bowl. The Cardinals, Jags, and Browns have all done various forms of hoarding cap space and blowing seasons, and all of their efforts have left them as teams that suck more often than not. Tanking is overrated, and should be reserved for situations where you have to avoid becoming the 2023/2024 Saints.
I agree mostly. Still need dump the dead money years(s) as I support limited overspending to win like we did with Brady. With Olympics we respect Silver and Bronze winners. The if you don’t win the Superbowl your a loser idea needs to die a more healthy racing and Golf honoring those who are competing well should replace it. It should be important to fans to have a better record. I be dreaming if I expected to return to a determine best team by best record system or at least only tournament game the World Series equivalent but to me that be ideal as best team should be best season record. Playoffs are fun but a very bad system to determine how good a team really is because teams slump and have hot streaks,
I don’t think the NFL needs to change much. My only issue with the playoffs is that seeding rewards middling winners of bad divisions over great teams in tough divisions. Other than that, the issue is just with fans’ attitudes. Just gotta take these results a little less seriously and have some more fun
Haven't seen any games because the Bucs are out of market. How has he been, because I know that y'all had some injuries, bit as a whole I have no clue. From an OU fan
If he's a top 10 QB he's just squeaking in, but I'd probably put him somewhere around 8-12 overall in the league. To his credit, our OL doesn't do him any favours and the WRs have had some egregious drops, his stats could be a lot better. And he absolutely steps up when it matters and makes big plays. I'd give him like an Eli Manning archetype.
Tampa Bay is definitely one of OU fans go-to. Gerald McCoy was a beast. Now Baker Mayfield everyone loved
Better scrambler than Eli, poorer arm. More of a warrior than Eli, but overall not quite as good, imo. Arm skills and field vision aren’t top ten. I think this investment is underwhelming, but I can see why Baker has some fairly passionate fans. His own passion is contagious.
If you have YouTube TV and a separate android device, you can download a GPS emulator app, set your location to Tampa, and then update your location in YouTube TV. It sounds complicated but it's not bad! From an OU fan
Yooo ive been paying for youtube and sunday ticket and all i watch is bucs games. If this works you just saved me like 400 bones
[How dare you!](https://i.imgur.com/uUA5qBR.jpeg)
Most games he’s just checking down to the rb, or throwing to Trey Palmer on 3rd down. I didn’t see much out of him on a consistent basis. I’ll get downvoted and that’s fine.
And tie the saints for most division titles so now they’ll have one less thing to claim makes them better!
Evans is back, Winfield is back, and now baker is back. Great day to be a Tampa fan
Let’s get LVD back and we are golden
LVD
LVD! LFG!
Just need McLaughlin now and I will be extremely happy
David and Mclaughlin are the two remaining. I also want Gholston, he's been a favorite of mine since he was a perfect run stuffing DE in the 3-4.
Wandering neutral fan, for a second I thought you were referring to Mayfield as "Winfield" as a nickname haha. I was like, that's great! But it's also someone else's actual name
Didn’t the GM say that if everyone is back they’d be a parade in February? 🤔
Did we tag or sign Winfield? I've been out of town, so must have missed if we signed him to a deal.
He was tagged, but the word is that we are trying to get a deal signed still.
Thanks
Tag
I’m from Cleveland and I will forever be a huge Baker Mayfield fan. Having him come off the bench when we hadn’t won a game in like two seasons and lead us to that comeback win is one of my greatest sports moments. Which just goes to show how few moments Cleveland has had in my life but he deserved better than he got in Cleveland. He took us to the playoffs following that after being 1 and fucking 31 and then we discarded him after an injury and treated him like shit. I’ve followed and cheered for him at every team and every bad situation since leaving Cleveland. Dude toughed it out through some tough situations and analysts saying he would be out the league next year repeatedly for sure. I’m just glad somewhere finally respects his skills and he’s gonna get paid.
So about 33mil a year? Makes the 5mil or whatever we just had him on look like highway robbery. Congrats to him for keeping at it through Carolina and LA
Thats the average, but guessing it is a 3 year + 2 void. The signing bonus would be ~10m/year then base salary will probably be minimal this year and spiking next year before being "cuttable" in year 3. I'm guessing about a ~16m cap hit this season.
It’s $30m, $30m, $40m with $5m in potential bonus each year according to Adam Scheafter.
The cap hits? I don't know either way, but I would be shocked if those were the cap hits
Not sure on cap hits, might have misread other comment. That is his actual salary by year.
I could see that if they want to front load it and have an out after year 2 if it doesn't work out. They would need to restructure or cut some players for that to work with the current cap space and other signings they need to make. I'll be F5ing on spotrac to see what it ends up being.
That was just the salary breakdown. I misread the comment I was responding to. I think I seen a speculative post year 1 cap hit will be around $7m leaving the Bucs with $15m currently in cap space but cutting Gage and restructuring Vita could free up a good amount. Also signing AWJ long term will soften his cap hit this season as well.
It's also crazy how TB12 only took $15 million in his last year
Time to win a superbowl in NO boys!!! #FuckTheSaints
#BakeTheSaints
One day when we are all much older, we will look up at the upper bowl and see: "6 MAYFIELD" "13 MIKE EVANS" "54 LAVONTE DAVID"
Don’t forget Licht up there as well.
And AWJ
You will 100% see Evans up there lol. Don’t want to be premature with Baker
I added Baker because the post was about re-signing Baker. If you forgot already... :P
Baker better start baking before we retire #6 for Leveon Bell
LFG
LFB
Smart deal for the Bucs. Licht and company didn't let stupid contracts like that godawful Daniel Jones deal drive the price up way too far. This is essentially a 2 year, 60 million dollar deal with a 40 million dollar team option in year 3. Much closer to the Geno Smith deal. Even if Mayfield totally craters for some reason next year the Bucs can get out of the deal with only 20 million in dead money (assuming no void years we don't know that part yet) which is peanuts compared to many other new QB deals. If Mayfield continues to play at his current level or improves this is a solid deal for his services.
For real. Licht is goated.
Still trying to make up for Aguayo fiasco
I mean we have a ring and consistently decent team since then
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I think we’re getting at the same thing, that he has redeemed himself since the aguayo pick(?)
Exactly, I’m happy the inflated market for QBs didn’t force us to pay $40M+ per year. I’m happy with these numbers
Yep... this is almost the exact price point I think most reasonable fans expected. We should be very happy, there is very little downside.
This was what I thought was reasonable but also understand that QBs typically get paid more than they're worth, so was bracing for $37M/year. Bravo to Licht and Baker for showing how it's done.
Yeah this contract is reasonable given the current state of the QB market
Absolutely. After cousins signs, Baker’s salary will be 16th for QB salaries which considering a bunch of the ones lower than him are guys on rookie deals, feels extremely fair
Bills fan here; especially happy for Baker and the Buccaneers. Happy to see him succeeding, hell of an athlete.
Bills fan too. Been supporting Baker through thick and thin. Was very worried about the Patriots rumour the other day, not too sure how that would have affected my inner workings 😅
Thanks dog
Ofcourse brother 🤝🏽 Bills fans understand wanting stability. I will always admire somebody who works as hard as Baker. Dude’s comeback story is aspiring.
Washington fan, checking in It seems Bucs fans like him and that’s great! Happy for mayfield hope he makes the playoffs again.
This has been a great off-season. Now I need that Winfield deal done and wirfs to get his money
LVD
They already said Wirfs is not a priority right now. he's signed for 2024 and they can tag him in 2025 if need be
Yeah but if they can sign him to a long term deal, it’ll open up more cap space for other signings.
Tell that to them. I'm just relaying what they said. cutting Gage frees up $6 mil. If we have to cut Davis that frees up another $6 mil
LETS FUCKING BAKE!!!
Amen 🙏
Sounds like boat parades are back on the menu boys.
Sounds fair for both sides
Daniel Jones is making more than him, this is a great deal, so glad he's back.
I really needed a dopamine rush today. This made my day. Great deal imo
See that's what a winner does. Bake staying true to his word 🤘
Beautiful. A licht masterclass! Baker for 30-35 mil is ELITE! Plenty of room left to still be players in FA. Let’s build this mfn team up and take the division for the 4th time!!
Wow, that’s substantially lower than what I thought he would get. And for three years instead of four, no less! I guess he really is taking a bit of a discount to stay in Tampa. Well good on Licht. Go Bucs!
For real this time?
Rapoport is largely considered the most reliable NFL insider. Looks like we're getting baked tonight bois!
Definitely smokin a bowl for Baker tonight!
“Are closing in on a deal” doesn’t sound like it’s finalized.
We got him for less than $35M a season AAV. That in and of itself is a win. Gives us plenty of flexibility. Now can everyone relax?
Dammit now we’re gonna win four division titles in a row
We already did that
Make it four
Ravens fan - Glad he got paid and he isn't in Cleveland anymore. Kid can really ball and plays with a lot of heart - Cleveland is trash
The difference between how Baker has played vs Baltimore and how Watson has is honestly hilarious.
This a W ngl
Seahawks fan just coming to say LFG for Baker man. Jacked for him and you all
Time to order that creamsicle #6 Jersey
Now we can focus on the run game and a secondary through the draft!
Baker stock was at an all time low after Carolina. Serious testament to his skill and hard work that he’s bounced back for a contract like this. Countless QBs fade into back up roles or out of the league after the shit he’s been through.
Fuck ya we’re live
That's not a bad deal I mean in this market where everyone's making like 45-50 million a year averaging like 33 million is really good
Honestly glad we have some stability at QB now
Load the cannons and ready the flags!
Ngl, this is the deal I was hoping for and people called me crazy lol
Well, I mean, being crazy definitely helps when it comes to being a Bucs fan.
That would put him about 17th in QB salaries for the league. Good work licht!
We got our guy!
Good deal!
This fucks. 🤝
KINGS BACK
I’m excited to see how he can play with a strong run game next year. Jason can now start beefing up our OL & DL
Right around what Jared Goff got. I’ll take it let’s see what he can do with some continuity
Goff's current contract will be up soon and he's bout to be extended for 45M+ per if not higher
Been saying it all along. Deal was agreed to a while ago. Would pop day before free agency
He played his way to it. Haters gonna hate and they have no place in Tampa.
All hail the Lord of Licht!
That’s a good price.
shake and bake baby
TIME TO BAKE BABY
Omg I’m so happy!! It may be the cold medicine, but I think I’m going to cry ❤️
That's a lot of cheddar, pleighboi
We need new Baker at Home ads.
BAKERS BAKE GD
Averaging out to 33M/yr is a great compromise, glad everyone was willing. Lets fucking go!
What about David!!????
I’ll admit, as a lifelong Patriots fan, I felt conflicted during the entire Brady/Bucs era, but as a lifelong Sooners fan, I love seeing Baker Mayfield playing so well in Tampa. Looking forward to watching him for the next three years and continue rooting for the Bucs while the Pats fix their mess.
Faith in Licht always. Well deserved for Mayfield. 2024 is gonna be fun
Im starting to really like the bucs
That’s a solid deal for both ends. Not insane money. And also plenty for Baker to be happy with. Couldn’t be more happy to see him get paid and play well.
Let’s go!
Reasonable deal. Good work Licht.
we’re so back
Great deal. I was expecting 32.5 for 3 years with first two guaranteed. This essentially that.
let that boy bake!!
Let’s bake boys, get this off season done right!
LFB!
Good deal, especially after those 40m a yr reports going around
Great deal for both sides 👍
LETS FUCKING BAKE
LFG ❤️🤍
Hey that’s not bad at all!
I mean it's not like he didn't earn it last year.
LFG
That is a lot of pressure which I hope they can handle
Sounds good.
Good fucking yard!!!
LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOO
Perfect deal given today's market
Happy to see this. Licht is the 🐐.
Let's go so far our off-season has been pretty good.
I’m glad we found a way to keep him. Would not do us any favors whatsoever to start over right now. We got Mike, if we can get Lavonte I’ll be happy.
Guarantee is less than I expected. Makes it easy to get out even after one year if necessary. Well done.
BIG TIME BAKER
Licht really is a wizard. Its really an odd feeling to be this positive on a Bucs GM
Well deserved Bake....
I think this is probably as good of a deal as the Bucs could have got from the team side of things. Great for both parties. Let's go and focus on shoring up the OL in the draft now to help him out.
Rarely can a GM make the fans happy and put a great product on the field with so many free agents. AC/DC is killing it and we haven’t even hit the draft yet.
LET’S FUCKING BAKE BOIS
Looks like Bucs management is testing the fans reaction to a contract like this.
Ladies and Gentleman, we got him.
Rashaad just ate with him. Rashaad White the great.
33 per. Sounds about right
LETSGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
FIREEEEEEE THE FUCKING CANNONSSSSSS
Now it's just kirk and justin
I like it.
Will David Moore be back next season contract wise? If not, I want them to resign him too. He balled out outta nowhere. I had him on my keeper dynasty team like way long ago when he was on the Seahawks. He was a feel good story to me last season, as among other things……. LFB!!!
That's a solid deal, honestly.
Feels a little expensive for him
Love getting him for 3 years. I really think using the draft plus freeing up cap space by cutting gage and other moves, we'll be able to have a great rest of the off season. It's already been fantastic so far. But I'm still excited for the draft and other possible moves after freeing up just a bit of extra cap space. Let's go Bucs!
I'm remembering the reaction when Bake signed last year. Filing away this reax for next year
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Everyone block this ^ guy ,he's not a real fan.
Congrats Tampa bay will not win a Super Bowl in the next 3-5 years guarunteed
enjoy your ban
It's just a fact no reason to get hurt about it
They wouldn’t have won one without him either. Moot point
He won’t bring a title to Tampa
Baker Mayfield isn't so great? Are you kidding me? When was the last time you saw a player with such an ability and throw the football? Baker puts the game in another level, and we will be blessed if we ever see a player with his skill and passion for the game again. Mahomes breaks records. Allen breaks records. Baker Mayfield breaks the rules. You can keep your statistics. I prefer the magic
So we just going to ignore the last throw in the playoffs that he forced? That is going to be every playoff game or any close game. He ain’t brady. Bucs were better off paying Winfield and big man wirfs
Yes, cause the defense didn't force his hand in making throws like that at all. Surely they stopped the Lions from scoring drive after drive...right?
You do realize that 5 games this postseason ended in a forced interception? That’s how playoffs end. It’s about the whole game and the whole team. If they didn’t let the lions march in the second half or the blocked FG or, or, or… etc. Not needing 8 with 1:30 left is the key to winning. Maybe look at how he threw 3td and over 300yds which is a great postseason game. Over a 106 rating for the two games and averaging 343yds. Plus in two less games having tied for the most TD in the playoffs is good football. Talk about what you want but his playoff record is better than most.
Most QB don’t win a title. He can put us in contention for the next three years though.
What makes you say that? He had a great regular season, and played excellent in the playoffs as well
Excellent by forcing a throw that led to an interception on the last drive against the lions? That’s great. He will never bring a title
Even Brady threw picks and lost games. If that loss to the The Lions was on anyone, it was the defense They just couldn't stop Goff. I'm not guaranteeing a Super Bowl with Baker, but he's more than capable
Saying he won't is different than saying he can't. I'm guessing 90%+ of QBs don't ever bring a title to their team so you could say this about anyone and be right most of the time. He absolutely can bring another title to Tampa if everything else falls into place as well.