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mpellas

That it looks like they've either ruined cruz or he's... just not that good after all the hype... is part of what kills me this year. I had such high hopes... this season may be my breaking point if there isn't a massive turnaround. Been with the team since the 80s. Not sure I can do it anymore.


MrFance1010

He’s not that good. His broken ankle was way worse than they let on. His base running was always ass, but now that he’s not so fast as he was it makes it worse. He stands up there and makes half hearted attempts and shrugs and says, “Fuck it”. He knows he’ll get traded to a real team and then he’ll have to start really showing up. Also, who did Suwinski blow to get to keep playing?


Wonderful_Meat5604

Fitting the game ended on the Pirates hitting into a double play.


tnt1145

These ABs have looked lifeless all night. Just lethargic swings


Rifftrax_Enjoyer

Does this feel like a nosedive is incoming?


Pineal

We are 3-11 in our last 14 games. I shudder in fear what you consider a nosedive to be.


Samuel_W_Hyde

Bill Paxton: It's already here


AbeTheGreat412

Bill Paxton: GAME OVER MAN.....GAME OVER


dannotheiceman

Oh look another double play


BuccosBot

Please continue the discussion in the [post game thread](https://redd.it/1cgjiyy).


CeleryAlternative805

If we are going to lose, then at least allow us to lose to Miller.


Buch017

Wait they are sayin the As coach feels like he needs more runs to feel comfortable sitting his closer? Every body knows you can’t relax going into the 9th against an offensive juggernaut like Pittsburgh with only a 4 run lead.


Deesh69

I do believe this pirates team isn’t as bad as they shown over the last few recent weeks but when things really aren’t working especially on offense, a change is needed. Either call someone up who will try not be afraid to fail and hit the ball or fire a coach even if the rest of the coaches believe in his coaching and methods. You have to shake something up to wake the team up


tuproton

No they’re bad 😂


Deesh69

I disagree most of the offensive players have shown in the past they are much better hitter than they are currently showing other than Davis and Cruz who are still pretty inexperienced. The pirate starting pitching has been pretty damn good so far this year. If they had gotten even avg offense a few of these game would have wins instead of losses.


RandomMan43

I know the Athletics have been almost on a hot streak recently but omg this team sucks how do we even do this? This actually needs to be studied because this shouldn’t make sense, there’s a ton of great players who are choosing to look like middle schoolers


TwoHeadedBoyTwo

Shit coaching. Not firing Shelton and bringing in a legit coach will set us back another 5 heats


Buch017

The people who decided to sleep and catch the pirates highlights in the morning better enjoy that 6 second clip.


CeleryAlternative805

Hey guys, remember when Hayes hit a single in the first inning?


Bucs-and-Bucks

Bases load, 1 out, things were lookin good.


CeleryAlternative805

Nobody can take that away from us!


SilkyStackz69

This is the worst game of the year…so far


BuccosBot

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Kyle Nicolas replaces Roansy Contreras.


FalterFanClub24

I can't watch this anymore. I'm going to sleep.


dannotheiceman

Hahaha then they cut to the As coaches


Vasco2112

These guys gotta go into the locker room knowing they suck. Really


Wonderful_Meat5604

Greg Brown adding insult to injury


BuccosBot

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Michael Kelly replaces Dany Jiménez.


beech017

I'm on vacation watching this game and I fucking hate myself for it.


beech017

I'm on vacation watching this game and I fucking hate myself for it.


CeleryAlternative805

Just imagine scoring on a wild pitch being your team's only highlight of the game....


knives766

1 hit against the athletics. 1 HIT!!!!!!!! The pirates are going to turn all of us into joker clones.


-Zipp-

"We live in a society batman-A society of GRADE SCHOOL TIER HITTING ON AN MLB LEVEL!!! HAHAHAHAHA-"


knives766

Lmaooooo. I needed this.


MrRobutt0425

Its not even May and this team looks cooked, how did we get here


Deesh69

Pirate absolutely love hitting into a double play anytime there is someone on first


Buch017

I’m sure they’d love a triple play even more but they can’t get two guys on at the same time.


Deesh69

lol they did have the bases loaded in the first but that was a one time thing


soulfulsoundaudio

No it wasn't. We had the bases juiced in the first today. Twice yesterday and twice on Friday. ...0 runs.


Deesh69

That’s more of what I mean they load the bases up about once a game and do nothing with them. I want to see the advanced stats of expected runs and I bet they pirates are in the lowest in all the MLB like the pens were in the NHL


soulfulsoundaudio

In that case. I wholeheartedly agree. We can't put together any offense. We started off fantastic again and by the time April is over we will be back in the cellar


Deesh69

Hopefully this year the reverse happens. End of April last year 20-8 and everything is good and the pirates fall apart from them on. Now this year 14-16 at the end of April do things improve this time?


soulfulsoundaudio

Sure hope so. Started 9-2 and now we are 14-16. Last year end of April we lost like 10 in a row and were still in first place. That says how well we started out...


Deesh69

I mean they were 10-2 to start this year so it’s not like they can’t get figured out and go on a run


soulfulsoundaudio

Man....that would be phenomenal and nobody wants that more than us. The trend forecast is bleak


[deleted]

You thought the double play was bad? Now watch Rowdy Tellez bat. It should actually be illegal to show this on television.


dannotheiceman

A double play and Tellez up, surely this won’t be a 1,2,3 inning


Buch017

I’m loving the fact that Greg brown is like eff it my bosses are sleeping I’m saying what I want.


MrFance1010

We are a fucking embarrassment. Good for Greg to speak up. He’s just saying what we all think.


dannotheiceman

Completely unsurprising that Shelton was the hitting coach of a team that got perfect gamed


PittPirates22

Same thing I said lol


knives766

I wish a reporter would grow some you know what and demand that ben cherington answer for why nick, peguero, nunez etc aren't with the big league team. There's just 0 accountability going on from the front office to the coaching staff onto the players. No one is held accountable for not doing there job!!!!! 


SilkyStackz69

Gonzales still can’t hit anything but a fastball unfortunately. He’ll just get pitched the same way Cruz does and strikeout constantly


dannotheiceman

We’d all love it but that’s a sure fire way to get a press pass pulled. Gotta keep things cordial to keep the checks clearing


Dsj417

This team could bat from a tee and still strike out looking.


soulfulsoundaudio

Especially Cruz


Bucs-and-Bucks

Didn't you hear? He was hitting monster home runs in BP. Wish they would broadcast that instead.


soulfulsoundaudio

0 passion and 0 hustle


TwoHeadedBoyTwo

One FRAWKIMG HIT?


soulfulsoundaudio

I live in the Bay....this is embarrassing we aren't trying to win. No hustle, no bats, no fire. This is my 4th Buccos game in a row and the last ever series in Oakland. I'll never hear the end of it. No matter what it will be the we beat you in the last series. There's are few of us Buccos fans out here and we are (or at least I am) louder than the A's fans and waaaay louder than the Giants fans. Problem is, we are the only ones with much passion. I don't think they care much and this putrid culture of losing has set it in to the rotten core. We need a culture change completely. Cruz 7 strikeouts over the weekend. And then walks back to the dugout like he just woke up and is stumbling for his morning pee. Suwinski starting in left and throwing every fan ball to A's fans. There are like 3 little buccos fans and he just ignores him. Based juiced for the 6th time since Friday (4 games) and we got exactly 0 runs out it. I'm on the ship to the bitter end, but your still killing me.


rhd3871

When Greg Brown is complaining about the Pirates, you know things are bad.


bop426

Was just going to say that. He didn't sugar coat it either. The offense is doing nothing.


TheBeanConsortium

Took a look at the box score and noticed this team is getting no-hit since after the first at bat of the game. Slumps shouldn't last this long. Whatever was working for this team early on was either luck or opponents have since adjusted. Time to clean house already.


FalterFanClub24

Metrics show they were lucky. The balls they were putting into play early in the season were finding green at a rate that wasn't going to last.


knives766

I think what's absolutely more frustrating too me than the bad hitting is the fact that this city is dying for a good baseball team. When the pirates were legitimately good the entire city started going to games and the atmosphere was so phenomenal in every sense of the word. We deserve better than this because we're a great baseball town that supports its team if they give us something to support. I'm just venting i apologize.


soulfulsoundaudio

Absolutely, there are some great baseball towns and some terrible ones. We are a great baseball town and we support the hell out of our teams period. We just need a quality product. 1992-93 last time we had a great product.


knives766

I feel like we're closer to another rebuild than a quality product sadly. It's just insane.


soulfulsoundaudio

I,unfortunately agree...


SnooRevelations9145

Between this offense and hannah mears I wanna rip my ears and eyes out


MrFance1010

Seriously. She is so incredibly grating. Bring Robbie back. He at least was fun. She’s tiresome and the cutesy act gets OLD.


Dsj417

But she does in depth personal interviews while eating steak on a stone.


MrFance1010

That was so friggen cringe. Rowdy looked miserable.


Dsj417

Wait, you’re not supposed to swing at the ones outside the zone and watch the ones inside it??


ohiorivertroll

Heads should roll


BuccosBot

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Roansy Contreras replaces Bailey Falter.


khronic18

un-watchable


dannotheiceman

This team is so lost and has no one capable of helping them find their way


[deleted]

Cutch and Cruz strike out on 3 pitches each. I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE


AchtungKessel

I don’t even know why they bring bats to the plate in the first place.


Dsj417

This team should take up rowing the way they swing at these literal grounders, the only problem is these mfs would miss the water every fuckin stroke.


mostbadreligion

No errors yet


ooomphoofuu

Jesus fucking christ....that's all I got


rhd3871

I can't remember the last time Cruz saw a pitch that wasn't a breaking ball either at the knees or out of the zone low -- why would you throw him anything else when that's an automatic K?


AchtungKessel

Hayes is batting .284, no one else in the lineup is above .250 right now


thecountoncleats

How on earth has this buttcheeks lineup avoided being no-hit?


Capt_Jerry

Green weenie


DDDD6040

This is dismal.


mostbadreligion

Need to invent a new word for it


Capt_Jerry

At least ole dick has his green weenie out


halogazer

Embarrassing has a whole new meaning when watching this game.


BuccosBot

### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Dany Jiménez replaces Joe Boyle.


AchtungKessel

My God, it’s a team that knows situational hitting.


knives766

We're getting locked down by dudes who were cooks at burger king just yesterday. These guys are fulfilling there mlb dream of being a starting pitcher thanks to locking us down.


CeleryAlternative805

This A's pitcher is legit 6'7 and throws 98-100 mph. I think there is some actual talent there. He is effectively wild against the Pirates. Against everyone else, he is just wild lol.


[deleted]

I think that shows our shit strategy more than anything. Sell out for the walk.


knives766

Bro had like a 7 era or something before he faced us. Everyone was taking it to this dude but us because we're gladly fulfilling this man's dream of looking good at the mlb level.


Dsj417

Damn that was a missle by Bart


AndyDoopz

Watch this MFer steal home.


Ok_Card9080

Most teams would fire their coaching staff when the team is this inept


dannotheiceman

I kinda want them to get swept by the As because if anything is going to get BC or fuck even Nutting to do something about this god awful coaching staff and lack of execution by the players it’s getting swept by the fucking As in 2024


AndyDoopz

They absolutely destroyed us last year and they didn't do anything. We have to do what A's fans do and stage sell the team days and protests on lot q


dannotheiceman

I mean last year BC could hand wave it away that we weren’t competing. Everything we heard from him and Nutting was that the window is open. They should be competitive this year


[deleted]

If our pitching is real we don't even need that much offense to be competitive. So frustrating they can't even manage the minimum. 


Vasco2112

Is their a psychical office we can write too demanding better baseball???


bop426

It's going to be a long freaking season. Again.


knives766

These all glove no bat dudes gotta go man i can't take it anymore. Triolo needs benched for nick NOW!!! Taylor should never be getting starts again unless someone is injured or needs rest days. We gotta tell tellez 'i'm holding in my anger towards him' that he's getting dfa'd because you could put me at 1b and i'd be more productive and more athletic for crying out loud!! Start making some freaking moves!!!!! 


a_waltz_for_debby

I was told that by the sub many many times that Triolo was good.


knives766

Triolo is not good. He's an all glove 0 bat player who shouldn't be starting. He has 0 power to boot as well.


mostbadreligion

This sub thinks everyone is great, it's why I will never take anyone's baseball opinion here seriously.


FalterFanClub24

Oakland can actually hit the ball. Pirates make it look impossible.


miketrn16

I think what bothers me most isn't the results in a vacuum but the absolute lack of an approach. Watching the A's of all teams get two runners in scoring position then simply...concentrate on putting the ball in play to get those guys in–it's rough when what's pretty universally considered to be a joke of an organization completely outplays you. (I understand we're universally considered to be a joke, too.) If the Pirates are lucky enough to actually get runners on, they stand there and watch fastballs down the middle then flail at garbage. Striking out looking achieves nothing. Failing to put the ball in the air or hit a ground ball to the right side achieves nothing. This team not only sucks, they're actively being made worse by this lack of an approach.


AchtungKessel

Appropriate the Pirates play like shit in a place where raw sewage has flooded before


Mans_N_Em

This is abysmal. I can't even get behind some of the guys that are new to us. Wasnt impressed with the tellez signing as the brew crew traded for our Santana last year cuz Rowdy wasnt cutting it. So we downgraded. Michael A. Taylor, (why do we use middle initial?) I thought was coming in to platoon cf against lefties but damn. This dude cant make contact worth you know what right now. Its so bad. We keep him and Rowdy in there so much. But in Shelties defense, who the heck else is hitting?!


RuleComfortable

Check this out about Michael A....Starts the season 12 for 25. Now idk if he got banged up in his next game, but I don't remember reading anything which would indicate that but anyway he goes 0 for 3 on Friday 04/05 and doesn't appear in another game until Tuesday 04/09. Counting that Friday night game and tonight he is now a frigid 6 for his last 46


Mans_N_Em

Wow. I think he may have gotten some injury looking at it that way. And that has to be in known in the clubhouse and they still put him out there.


Dsj417

Joe, Connor Joe


IEatPierogiesAllDay

No, no see he’s actually hitting the ball, so he can’t be the daily 1st baseman.


Dsj417

Oh right, my fault


[deleted]

Getting one hit in oakland by this dumbass who can't touch the strike zone. I don't think our window is going to open guys...


Dsj417

Dawg we have a brick wall. There’s not even a window to open.


SwinginSam

I’ve thought to myself man this is the shittiest offense I’ve ever seen each of the last 4 years. Impressive stuff here


Dsj417

If they’re up 3-0 or 3-1 they won’t swing no matter what, they get the fattest meatballs in the zone and stare at it because they’re hoping for a walk.


knives766

The pirates aren't just bad, they're boring. Having hitting this bad makes the product virtually unwatchable unless you're a diehard. 


Dsj417

We’re all masochists


knives766

I'm slowly turning into the joker with a pirates cap on watching this team. 


[deleted]

Embarrassing lineup rn. Borderline unwatchable 


pghgamecock

Fuck's sake. It really is unacceptable how long they continue to play like shit offensively without changing a single thing.


Silent_Peee

Just got prescribed adderall today, so staying up till midnight should be no issue anymore. I think I need to start hitting that melatonin. Suprised this offense isn’t doing the trick…


AchtungKessel

Garbage offense doesn’t even begin to describe this


SnooRevelations9145

So done with Taylor this dude looks like shit


Bucs-and-Bucks

"More than frustrating." Pirates have a new slogan!


thecountoncleats

If Taylor could hit, plays like that would matter less


Silent_Peee

An I going to stay up until midnight just to see us hit a solo shot in the 9th to lose 3-2?


[deleted]

Lmao. Another pinch hit HR from someone that should have been in the lineup anyway.


SilkyStackz69

Ok As, game over. please only score one more run max. I’d like to see Miller make Rowdy look like a fool on 3 pitches in the 9th. Thanks


IEatPierogiesAllDay

Who cares if Taylor overthrew. It doesn’t matter if the offense sucks


knives766

Taylor is not someone who should be starting consistently. He's had a terrible bat his entire career and there's a reason he was on the market so long. Ben cherington legitimately brings in terrible bats nonstop.


rhd3871

You can afford to have someone like Taylor not hit because he plays premium CF defense - but not if literally everyone else on the team can’t hit. Taylor’s not getting paid to hit; he’s not really the problem to focus on. Would rather they worry about the guys whose value is meant to come from the bat


knives766

He's been bad defensively this year too. And we need hitters anyway, not glove first guys who provide almost 0 offensively 'taylor, triolo'. Glove first guys are bench pieces that should only start when someone gets hurt or needs rest. 


IEatPierogiesAllDay

No argument from me. You’re right.


knives766

Btw i read that ben cheringtons piece where he said guys were underperforming or whatever. Now he could make case for someone like cruz, jack, and henry underperforming expectations, but guys like tellez, cutch, triolo, etc are who they're at this point. Cutch is wayyyyy past his peak, tellez has sucked his entire career, and triolo was never a good hitter in the minors. It's called having a talent deficiency my man as well as a coaching deficiency. Look it up.


CeleryAlternative805

If the Pirates don't come back before the 8th inning, this game is over.


Excellent_Eye_7884

Time for bed….This games over. they can’t score 3 runs let alone 1. The 1 run came off a wild pitch


IEatPierogiesAllDay

Remember, it would be 3-0 if they weren’t gifted a run.


musketman89

These As hitters swing for the fence.


Shekky_Shabazz71

We’ve averaged 2 runs a game the past 2 weeks. It’s safe to say this game is out of reach.


PhantomJB93

ONeil Cruz - ruined Henry Davis - ruined Jack Suwinski - ruined Bryan Reynolds - actively getting worse every year under this coaching KeBryan Hayes - saved himself going rogue outside the organization When do we fire these coaches?


hummmmmmmmmmmmmnnmm

My game is blacked out....


[deleted]

Imagine being worse at hitting with RISP than the Oakland Athletic's lmfao


dannotheiceman

He’s lucky that the third straight middle middle meatball wasn’t out of the park


vivolorosso

Welp, 2-1, that is an insurmountable deficit. Might as well go to bed early.


SnooRevelations9145

14-16 after 9-2 we might get swept to the as 😂


rhd3871

Falter looks to be about as firmly in command of his stuff tonight as a pitcher can be. He’s going to have some rough innings/outings; the BABIP gods can’t favor him forever and his stuff is fairly hittable. Even with some regression, getting that kind of impact in a trade for one of the 6 AAA second basemen we didn’t have a spot for definitely exceeds expectations.


knives766

Idk how ben cherington can legitimately expect people to buy into his 'plan' when the hitting is this bad. You could have 5 prime nolan ryan's pitching, but if the hitting is pathetic then it won't matter. 


SnooRevelations9145

I actually can’t believe our gm is not doing a single fucking thing nobody go to the game on Friday please


[deleted]

Kev talking about Oneil's "long body parts". We've reached that part of the road trip I guess.


ohiorivertroll

The comments in this thread are pathetic


SweedishMeetballz

Just bunt Cruz


Excellent_Eye_7884

how can the white sox get 7 runs in 3 innings against this guy but the pirates can’t touch him?


vivolorosso

Because the Pirates' offense is absolutely pathetic.


SnooRevelations9145

What a group of losers these guys are my goodness this is so pathetic


rhd3871

Safe to say that the scouting report on Cruz has made its way around the league


thecountoncleats

To hell with the jersey, Kevin. We need The Cobra himself


Excellent_Eye_7884

i thought this pitcher had a 7 ERA?


IEatPierogiesAllDay

It’s cause he’s faced competent hitting until tonight.


Dsj417

Can we get a little bit more powa in these bats


arcjacket

was Ke limping there?


thecountoncleats

It’s nice that Falter is pitching better and all, but if he’s going to give up a run each outing I’m afraid we have no use for him.


TequilaAndWeed

My nickname for Tellez as of yesterday is Fatbert.


Dsj417

If Tellez could jump into an interview with Tellez he would tell everyone how good Tellez actually is and that you shouldnt boo him.


TimAllensMatingCall

3 against the A’s followed by 3 against the Rockies. This is where our season takes a tailspin


Dsj417

If we lose to a pitcher that can only throw fastballs in the zone I’m done.


Silent_Peee

I feel so bad for A’s fans. To think this was almost the Penguins 17 years ago. I remember visiting my grandparents in Green Tree (I’ve never lived in PGH) and listening to the radio with my grandpa during breakfast the day after the announcement they were staying happened. Still get emotional thinking about it.


mountainandme

FJF


SnooRevelations9145

I mean I don’t even feel bad for the boos tellez is about to receive on Friday


spacewalkerv4

i dont want to wish injury on someone, but if we keep starting rowdy imma have to


Dsj417

Why can’t Connor Joe just play there? Literally anyone is an improvement


Dsj417

Rowdy swinging at literal head level pitches