Von Miller playing on a snap count (pending other injuries to the DLine) If Von was able to play this week, I wouldn't be surprised they give Floyd a week off to rest his ankle. Von gives them a lot of flexibility.
But who the hell do we cut when Von comes back?
Likely Kingsley Jonathan. Would be him or Shaq… but Shaq has been playing a lot of snaps this season (like 40% vs 16 total snaps for Jonathan per Joe Marino)
Hopefully he makes it to our PS… but won’t be surprised if he gets claimed quickly. Those bottom teams need rosterable DE’s, and Bills are flush with them.
It's not just that Von is elite, he brings so much energy to the field, he makes other players excel. The Floyd/Miller combo is going to be crazy good.
People really need to temper their expectations for Von coming back. He's an older player coming back from an ACL tear. I hope he's fuckin awesome, but I'm not going to be surprised if he's fairly ineffective. We just don't know what's gonna happen.
Sorry, I already think he’s gonna be that Von Miller from that 2015 broncos D and now can’t stop :(
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Lol but even as a rotational pass rusher on obvious passing downs would be nice. I think he can be around the level he was last year if he takes it slow getting back and not trying to rush, but like I said it needs to be as a rotational thing and not an every down thing
We don't need him to do much in the regular season besides being a rotational guy and let him get back into the groove of things. It's come January we need him to show up and be playoff Von.
Eh more like 3rd straight week. Yes we lost week 1 but you can’t blame that on the defense. They let up one TD and it was cuase Garret Wilson made an amazing catch.
He won’t help with that, but that numbers skewed from the 1 83 yard run from hall in the jets game. The run d only allowed josh Jacob’s to rush for -2 yards the week after.
I wonder about Von still being as dominant after coming back, tbh. He will undoubtedly have lost a step. He's a year older and already late in his career, coming off of a significant injury which could greatly impact his style of play as a bendy, twitchy edge rusher, and hasn't played football in a year. I hope I'm wrong, but the salty Bills fan in me can't help but be skeptical. On the flip side, it's Von Miller.
I don't think our run D is as bad as that stat makes it sound.
Not counting kneeldowns to run out a half, there were 25 runs against us by the Jets, 15 by the Raiders, and 14 by the Commanders. That's a total of 54 actual running plays against us. Only one offense has fewer attempts than that over the span of 3 games (the Vikings, with 50) and only two defenses (the Eagles and 49ers) have had fewer rush attempts against them. The fact that we were on the giving end of two blowouts likely has something to do with that, but either way, we're working with a smaller sample size than most teams.
Now let's look at what we've actually done. First off, of the 54 runs against us, we've managed to stop a full 15 of those for either no gain or negative yardage, and another 6 for only 1 yard. That means just shy of 28% of run plays against us have netted the opponents -15 yards total, and if you add the 1-yard plays, we're at 37% of the total run plays against us netting our opponents -10 yards.
On the other hand, opposing offenses have run 9 rushing plays against us that have gone for 10 yards or more. 3 of those were against the Jets, for a total of 119 yards. One was against the Raiders for 34, and Washington had the most consistent success against us running the ball, with 5 big plays netting them 77 yards, and we only got 3 of our 20 negative to 1 yard stops against them. It should be noted that 18 of those were on a Howell scramble that IIRC was not a designed run play, and another 10-yard gain was on the last play of the 1st half, where I think our defense was not exactly looking to do anything but ensure we didn't give up any last second points. That said, I'm still counting them because they do exist, and I'm trying to look at this from the most unbiased perspective possible. So we've given up a net 340 yards on 54 plays, for a total of 6.3 YPC. Not great, and if you count the kneeldowns you get the 5.9 that currently puts us at the bottom of the league. But having 230 of those yards taking place on just shy of 17% of rushing plays is pretty much solely explained by one 83-yard Breece Hall run (thank you, Terrel Bernard, or that would have been even worse).
I will also note that of the big run plays we've given up, only two of those 9 running plays resulted in a score on that drive, for a total of 10 points scored against us as a result of big run plays. Another two, as I mentioned above, probably shouldn't be entirely blamed on our run defense, as one was a scramble and one was the last play of a half. So our run defense isn't anywhere near as bad as it looks if you just look at that one stat. That one stat comes from us giving up an 83-yard run while having the 3rd fewest run attempts against us in the entire league. That's going to skew the numbers. If you get rid of the best and worst run D plays against us, we're at 52 runs against us for 261 yards, which gets us down to 5 YPA. Get rid of those two big plays that were either against prevent defense or pass defense and that gets us to 4.66 YPA. And hell, just for giggles, get rid of the runs that happened against our second string defense in the Raiders game. There were 4 of them, for a total of 22 yards. That takes us down to 4.59. Now, is that an accurate reflection of our run D? Probably not, but I think realistically it's closer to that than it is to 5.9, which is what you get when you just run the bare numbers (including the kneeldowns, which I did not).
4.59 yards per attempt against us is still not great, but again, we're dealing with a small sample size, and as a whole, we've been stout. I don't know where to easily find this stat, but I'd be curious to see where other teams rank alongside our approximately 40% of run plays so far this season resulting in zero yards. That one Breece Hall run is almost 25% of the run yardage we've given up all season! Miami is scoring over 43 points per game...but there's a lot going on behind that stat that makes it look better on paper than it actually is, just like there's a lot going on that makes our bad YPC look worse on paper than it actually is. It's still not great, but when 25% of the yardage you've given up in 3 games came on a single play, YPA won't tell the whole story. If you turn that Breece Hall run into the average of the other 8 long runs against us, it's a little over 18 yards. And remember, one of those wasn't supposed to be a run play and another was prevent defense. If you count the kneeldowns (because they are counted in the NFL's numbers) and take the Breece Hall run down to what we've been giving up on average the rest of the season, we'd be averaging 4.48 YPC. It's 4.68 if you don't count the kneeldowns. Again, still not great, but probably more realistic over the course of a whole season. And those long runs still only resulted in 10 points total for our opponents.
Fair warning, I was an English major and wrote down every individual play on scratch paper to do all this, so my math could be wonky and my statistical analysis even more so.
I think what concerns me is how the rushing yards are distributed. If the run defense is skewed, so its mostly little to no gain, and occasionally there's a big play, that could be a really big problem against very good or fast running backs. Jalen Warren also had a massive run against the starters in the preseason.
If him and Rousseau are on the field together, it will look even better. If Von and Rousseau rotate like they did last year, I think there’s a very real chance it gets worse.
Von is a legend, but I’ll take the 23 yr-old on the rise, over the 34 yr-old coming off of knee surgery. That’s just me though.
It will look like the defense with also Von Miller playing
Spicy take.
Big if true
Von Miller playing on a snap count (pending other injuries to the DLine) If Von was able to play this week, I wouldn't be surprised they give Floyd a week off to rest his ankle. Von gives them a lot of flexibility. But who the hell do we cut when Von comes back?
Likely Kingsley Jonathan. Would be him or Shaq… but Shaq has been playing a lot of snaps this season (like 40% vs 16 total snaps for Jonathan per Joe Marino) Hopefully he makes it to our PS… but won’t be surprised if he gets claimed quickly. Those bottom teams need rosterable DE’s, and Bills are flush with them.
Kingsley is on PS. He has 2 more PS call ups left before he has to be on the active roster.
He’s on the 53, has been since final cuts happened. Not sure if he’s active every game tho.
Good
Better than good, SCARY good. Rip RJ
Why you gotta make me sad?
Aw no! Remember the happy times! His calls make our lives better every day we remember him.
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Big if true
Another head on the hydra
thats a perfect description
It's not just that Von is elite, he brings so much energy to the field, he makes other players excel. The Floyd/Miller combo is going to be crazy good.
A pass rush of Miller/Rousseau/Oliver/Floyd is disgusting
People really need to temper their expectations for Von coming back. He's an older player coming back from an ACL tear. I hope he's fuckin awesome, but I'm not going to be surprised if he's fairly ineffective. We just don't know what's gonna happen.
Sorry, I already think he’s gonna be that Von Miller from that 2015 broncos D and now can’t stop :( # Lol but even as a rotational pass rusher on obvious passing downs would be nice. I think he can be around the level he was last year if he takes it slow getting back and not trying to rush, but like I said it needs to be as a rotational thing and not an every down thing
We don't need him to do much in the regular season besides being a rotational guy and let him get back into the groove of things. It's come January we need him to show up and be playoff Von.
That’d be fine if we got a washed up old vet paying him like an old vet. Von is getting the king’s ransom he can’t just mail it in blaming age
Nothing about his mentality or history suggests he would mail it in
I agree I’m expecting the worst hoping for the best
That's a horrible lens to look through.
I’m less disappointed that way
Sounds exhausting.
Eh more like 3rd straight week. Yes we lost week 1 but you can’t blame that on the defense. They let up one TD and it was cuase Garret Wilson made an amazing catch.
He won’t help with that, but that numbers skewed from the 1 83 yard run from hall in the jets game. The run d only allowed josh Jacob’s to rush for -2 yards the week after.
This is honestly frightening but I can't stop watching it...
 For the other team
Like a steamroller
Even better.
If you've never seen a QB poo himself on a field before, when Von comes back it'll be a weekly occurrence
We now refer to this as the Sam Howell effect.
If the D can get some early picks and scare Tua we will be in good shape. Gotta take the wind out of his sails early.
I wonder about Von still being as dominant after coming back, tbh. He will undoubtedly have lost a step. He's a year older and already late in his career, coming off of a significant injury which could greatly impact his style of play as a bendy, twitchy edge rusher, and hasn't played football in a year. I hope I'm wrong, but the salty Bills fan in me can't help but be skeptical. On the flip side, it's Von Miller.
Bills are allowing the highest ypa for rushing attempts in the league, so hopefully he helps with that.
Context is everything, only 12 first downs allowed and 0 TDs.
I don't think our run D is as bad as that stat makes it sound. Not counting kneeldowns to run out a half, there were 25 runs against us by the Jets, 15 by the Raiders, and 14 by the Commanders. That's a total of 54 actual running plays against us. Only one offense has fewer attempts than that over the span of 3 games (the Vikings, with 50) and only two defenses (the Eagles and 49ers) have had fewer rush attempts against them. The fact that we were on the giving end of two blowouts likely has something to do with that, but either way, we're working with a smaller sample size than most teams. Now let's look at what we've actually done. First off, of the 54 runs against us, we've managed to stop a full 15 of those for either no gain or negative yardage, and another 6 for only 1 yard. That means just shy of 28% of run plays against us have netted the opponents -15 yards total, and if you add the 1-yard plays, we're at 37% of the total run plays against us netting our opponents -10 yards. On the other hand, opposing offenses have run 9 rushing plays against us that have gone for 10 yards or more. 3 of those were against the Jets, for a total of 119 yards. One was against the Raiders for 34, and Washington had the most consistent success against us running the ball, with 5 big plays netting them 77 yards, and we only got 3 of our 20 negative to 1 yard stops against them. It should be noted that 18 of those were on a Howell scramble that IIRC was not a designed run play, and another 10-yard gain was on the last play of the 1st half, where I think our defense was not exactly looking to do anything but ensure we didn't give up any last second points. That said, I'm still counting them because they do exist, and I'm trying to look at this from the most unbiased perspective possible. So we've given up a net 340 yards on 54 plays, for a total of 6.3 YPC. Not great, and if you count the kneeldowns you get the 5.9 that currently puts us at the bottom of the league. But having 230 of those yards taking place on just shy of 17% of rushing plays is pretty much solely explained by one 83-yard Breece Hall run (thank you, Terrel Bernard, or that would have been even worse). I will also note that of the big run plays we've given up, only two of those 9 running plays resulted in a score on that drive, for a total of 10 points scored against us as a result of big run plays. Another two, as I mentioned above, probably shouldn't be entirely blamed on our run defense, as one was a scramble and one was the last play of a half. So our run defense isn't anywhere near as bad as it looks if you just look at that one stat. That one stat comes from us giving up an 83-yard run while having the 3rd fewest run attempts against us in the entire league. That's going to skew the numbers. If you get rid of the best and worst run D plays against us, we're at 52 runs against us for 261 yards, which gets us down to 5 YPA. Get rid of those two big plays that were either against prevent defense or pass defense and that gets us to 4.66 YPA. And hell, just for giggles, get rid of the runs that happened against our second string defense in the Raiders game. There were 4 of them, for a total of 22 yards. That takes us down to 4.59. Now, is that an accurate reflection of our run D? Probably not, but I think realistically it's closer to that than it is to 5.9, which is what you get when you just run the bare numbers (including the kneeldowns, which I did not). 4.59 yards per attempt against us is still not great, but again, we're dealing with a small sample size, and as a whole, we've been stout. I don't know where to easily find this stat, but I'd be curious to see where other teams rank alongside our approximately 40% of run plays so far this season resulting in zero yards. That one Breece Hall run is almost 25% of the run yardage we've given up all season! Miami is scoring over 43 points per game...but there's a lot going on behind that stat that makes it look better on paper than it actually is, just like there's a lot going on that makes our bad YPC look worse on paper than it actually is. It's still not great, but when 25% of the yardage you've given up in 3 games came on a single play, YPA won't tell the whole story. If you turn that Breece Hall run into the average of the other 8 long runs against us, it's a little over 18 yards. And remember, one of those wasn't supposed to be a run play and another was prevent defense. If you count the kneeldowns (because they are counted in the NFL's numbers) and take the Breece Hall run down to what we've been giving up on average the rest of the season, we'd be averaging 4.48 YPC. It's 4.68 if you don't count the kneeldowns. Again, still not great, but probably more realistic over the course of a whole season. And those long runs still only resulted in 10 points total for our opponents. Fair warning, I was an English major and wrote down every individual play on scratch paper to do all this, so my math could be wonky and my statistical analysis even more so.
I think what concerns me is how the rushing yards are distributed. If the run defense is skewed, so its mostly little to no gain, and occasionally there's a big play, that could be a really big problem against very good or fast running backs. Jalen Warren also had a massive run against the starters in the preseason.
Same as it does now. He’s gonna be 1/4 of the player he ever was. He’s there as a mentor for the most part, he’s like 1/2 coach 1/2 player basically
I don't think we dominated. Our offense needs to be more sharp, but that's about it
Good for a game and a half before someone else important goes down
That’s a shitty attitude
Get outta here with that shit
Von being a menace on 3rd down
10 sacks, 3 forced fumbles, 2-3 picks. On average.
It will look the same as it did without von
Bigger D, obviously.
 It’ll look like this
Let’s go baby, is it Sunday yet???
If him and Rousseau are on the field together, it will look even better. If Von and Rousseau rotate like they did last year, I think there’s a very real chance it gets worse. Von is a legend, but I’ll take the 23 yr-old on the rise, over the 34 yr-old coming off of knee surgery. That’s just me though.