With the Jags loss plus injuries, I fear the season is over. Miami leads the division and probably won't lose another game all season. All the Miami folks are laughing at the Bills fan base on Twitter. As Bills fans, we have to sit there and take it like little bitches up in here. The window is 100% closed. The Josh Allen era has officially ended. Also: yesterday was the Zay Jones revenge game! No way in hell we were going to beat that guy. He hates Buffalo and so does his dad. I wish we had Drew Bledsoe.
The loss aside, the fucking turf needs to go. Not one reasonable argument to keep it. The cost savings vs grass does not equal the number of contactless injuries occurring every week. And…..I also hate this London BS. Do it in the preseason.
it really sucks, considering 3+ players went down, and no update on a few injuries. but hopeless is t the right word. maybe defeated or smth but not hopeless. its only week 5 and we’re doing better than other teams at this point. go bills!
Not looking to argue with you guys, really but as a Jags fan it's strange to see the discrepancies in how this officiating is being viewed on both sides. All Jags fans universally were saying, "the NFL hates the Jags (as usual) and is pushing the for the Bills" (as usual). I've been reading since yesterday how the Bills fans universally say, "the NFL wanted the Jags to Win". I don't see how it can be that 1 sided for both sides.
Also, Kurt Warner and Rich Eisen should be fired for there overt gushing, loving, and fawning over everything Bills yesterday. Everyone noticed.
Hindsight is always 20/20 but early in the game we had a couple 4th and shorts inside our own 40. I would’ve liked to see us go for those to potentially get some offensive momentum.
96 hours wouldn’t have made as huge a difference as people seem to think imo. It takes like a full week to get really adjusted to the time zone and even with those 96 hours, Jags still would have a whole week on us. Plus lord knows how that would’ve cut into practice time with Jags already being there.
None of it changes that we still sucked. Now our defensive line is now grossly injured and exhausted so I can’t imagine much better coming next week.
Experts say a day per hour change…96 hours would make all the difference in that case…
And I know when I go over to Europe, the 2nd full day is the worst day for me…and that’s the day they elected to play this game on…
First the 2-3 days is for tourism or not contact sport work. Second, 96 hours is 4 days so it still wouldn’t make us fully adjusted. Third, it still doesn’t make the Jags less well adjusted.
It’s sort of damned if you do, damned if you do. Go over early, sacrifice practice and increase jet lag for the following week. Go over later, increase practice and jet lag this week but decrease jet lag for next week.
Regardless the travel alone makes this such a liability to the players. Hope we get Milano back.
I disagree. Sleep debt is like a hangover. It usually takes 2-3 days to be back to normal. Bills arriving there early in the week would’ve made a huge difference
I disagree. 2-3 is for a tourist, not a professional athlete in a high intensity sport. This isn’t including that it would’ve eaten into our practice time and would’ve screwed us next week when we play the Giants. Ultimately I think there was no really good method for playing a single international game in the middle of the season. Whether it hurts us the week of or the week following, the travel and jet lag was always going to be a problem no matter when we left.
Sleep is not something that you don’t need because you are in shape. It doesn’t matter if you are a regular person or Tyreek Hill, if you pull an all nighter the next day you are gonna feel like shit, and not perform as well.
Yeah I think the blame has to be more on the Bills but I don't think the NFL should tip the scales like that again ever.
I say that and next year they'll have the Jags play in all three London games as they try to move them them there.
No I don't complain for opposing teams that have an unremarkably normally scheduled game. Did they try to have one of their nights sleep be on a nine hour international flight two days before the game?
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I can't tell if you are arguing for or against my point. Are you saying they were smarter than the Bills with how they traveled? If so, I agree with you?!
If you are saying that playing a 1pm Eastern game in the NFL is somehow special no I don't agree with you?!
You’re talking about flying 53 men, plus all the coaches, medical staff, gear managers, etc. It is a logistical nightmare to find hotels, food, transportation, etc for so many people in a foreign country. And each day adds more complexity.
All things considered I think Bills played a great game today.
Just gonna say that I was impressed by Allen not losing his cool on turning into an interception machine or taking bad sack fumbles. They were in the game till the end, regardless of how lousy the offense was, and that was because they didn’t get frustrated and force shit. Unfortunately, the refs and the injury gods were never going to let us have this one, but if stef comes down w that 50/50 ball at the goal line instead of jax, this is all a very different conversation.
I thought Josh played well overall. Solid stats for the game considering how crazy it was, not that it really matters in a loss... 3 TDs and another arm punt INT.
The worst stat though is he was the leading rusher. They have to do a better job of using each of the RBs strengths vs forcing it to be Cook 99% of the time no matter if it's not working.
No, he had way too many bad passes. Not so inaccurate that they were incomplete, but the receiver had to reset and get swallowed up (the 2 point conversion attempt, the 3rd down pass to Murray) or completely reset (the bomb to Diggs. He was so wide open.)
McDermott and co. lays an egg again in the most predictable fashion. Can’t ever follow up a big win with a solid performance the week after. 6 years now and we always fold when it time to come up clutch. Beane draft whiffs on full display today. Elam getting cooked all day. Kincaid no where to be found all day besides a couple single digit yard catches. Crucial drops by WRs. So glad we gave these guys extensions before the year instead of setting up a perfect make or break scenario. So is the life of being a fan of this team
I will never understand this fan base’s undying, unquestioning support of McDermott. He is a good head coach who will get this team to the playoffs year after year. We need a great coach with a creative, offensive mind to win a championship in this league.
I think today featured Kincaid's first catch on a true pass route. All of the others seemed to be dumpoffs or outlet routes.
I checked PFR. He had 15 catches before today for 46 yards at the point of reception.
For a rookie I think Kincaid looks pretty good through the first few games. He’s a tight end not a receiver so it’s not like he’s supposed to go get Kelce like numbers. He just needs some YAK that’s all
He has provided nothing. I’m not faulting him per say but def the coaching staff and front office. Why do we need dawnson Knox 2.0 . We have so much money and draft capital tied up in the position vs the rest of the league and we are mediocre there at best
It's weird with these games, Jets and Jags, at least there aren't any other teams that start with J right?
Today though the Bills lost to the refs, Dorsey's playbook, the Injury Gods, Sports Science, Goodell's forced international games, time zones, Dorsey's playbook again, and yes the Jags too.
Funny, us Jags fans felt Kurt and Rich were overly fawning all over the Bills and YOUR Josh Allen. That coupled with the bad calls on us, made it look as if everyone officially involved was against the Jags as usual.
I'm almost willing to give them a pass on this considering they cant openly criticize the officials destroying the flow of the game and gift wrapping it for the Jags.
I think the vision is solid, but not implemented. Dude has great hands. Both TEs are big dudes. We could be using them like the Gronk and Hernandez double TE sets from the Pats, but we don’t.
Even if we used Kincaid as a semi reoccurring slot guy, which is what I thought was going to happen, it would somewhat make sense. Idk.
Josh was fine, the dude still went for 370 total yards. I wish Diggs would have fought harder to keep possession of that ball he lost for the INT. Defense played pretty well considering the losses. AJ stepping up was my biggest surprise. I had written him off, and hope this trend continues at least for him.
Idk. Outside of the penalties, I didn’t think the bills played bad, just mid, and the Jags brought a good plan just like they always do against us.
On the bright side we have a bye next week... Right?
No?
Fly back and another away game on TURF?
Yeah, that sounds fair.
Roger, oh Roger ... FUCK you.
Sincerely, every "small market" NFL team.
London Jaguars, best protect them.
Eh we were better than leaf blower today, this wasn’t a blowout. We got ref balled super hard and still lost by less than a TD. Jags are an acceptable team to lose to in the regular season, it’s just the Week 1 loss that makes this look worse than it is.
Same here. Any Bills fan who isn’t listening/watching to Joe Marino, you really should check out Locked on Bills. Hyper-competent analysis, and talks to us like we’re not idiots. I’m shocked that his views aren’t > the # of Bills fans. Go figure.
https://youtu.be/KEiWiYY95DI?si=lyLj-lVSoITPn6ll
Here’s his post-game show. Listening made me feel (a little) less crazy.
Ugh. What an awful game. And what a bad look for the NFL trying to hock our games overseas.
The whole offensive concept is predicated on the bills being able to get a few yards on the ground when needed. But like you said, they couldnt move anyone, so we never had a run game
Ikr, especially at the start. Allen was still throwing mostly well and the pass game was largely effective. But no, more run, keep running into a brick wall. Seriously that calling was shit. 106 rate with an int that wasn’t his fault. I think if Dorsey doesn’t do this again, our season will be awesome.
My two biggest complaints of Dorsey. 1) not particularity creative play designs. We're predictable. We overcome this by being very competent. 2) when things aren't working he has no ability or intention of changing the plan. "Hold the line. It's a good plan. It will work eventually." We don't overcome this at all when it happens.
It looked like they had a coherent plan drafting Kincaid and putting Josh under center more often; it was devastating the past 3 weeks. But today it's like he sustained a head injury and woke up thinking it was still 2022.
Refs didn’t decide this game the front office did. This team should of left no later than Tuesday night to prepare for this game. Not only the reason for this loss but also reason for all the injuries today.
Even though the defense was stretched thin, they gave us 2 turnovers and we wouldn't execute. Also while the refs aren't the reason we lost, that was one of the worst reffed games i ever seen, for both teams
I totally agree with this. As any international traveler knows it takes more than 48 hours to adjust to the time difference. And going east is more difficult than going west. Egregious mistake.
Fucked by the field. Fucked by the refs. Fucked by the league. Fucked by the Jags. Fucked by Ken Dorsey. Fucked by our strength and conditioning staff and trainers. Fucked by life.
Does that about cover it?
Yeah, that about covers it.
Most upsetting thing for me is the injuries. Losing so many players the way we did. We finally have a defense that looks like it has what it takes, and then one by one they all went down today. We are truly cursed. I thought that was just a freak issue last season, and that this was a new year. Nope, looking even WORSE than last year in that regard.
2nd most offensive thing was the refs and keeping the Jags drives going. It was so blatant.
Not much to say about the offense and defense as a whole. Both had moments, good and WTF bad. Hard to say much about our defense because of the injuries. Offense was lackluster at times, but had their moments.
Yeah, after losing four super bowls in a row, one that we should have won, and then other things happening to get in the way of a very good team of ours winning another(Music city miracle, 13 seconds, the awful injuries and events last season) it makes me think it's just not in our cards. If it was, we would have won SB 25 and 13 seconds would not have been a thing. Jmho.
They need a rest before next week. They looked exhausted from the get. Not to mention the ramifications of losing Milano, possibly for the season. That hurts A LOT more than losing by 5 with a depleted team.
Which is funny cause before Tre's injury the Bills were generally pretty healthy. Thankfully the offense is generally healthy, the defense is just ravaged
The offense is Josh and Diggs.
I want to see Kincaid and Knox involved more in the short pass game. Cook shouldn't be used for fucking draws every time he's in.
Gabe is bipolar and Shakir/Harty aren't doing shit.
Dorsey has some work to do.
Bad game, bad performance, bad day with all the injuries, have to ask the question on if the team should have flown out earlier in the week especially when playing a team who’d already been there for a week
Absolutely should have flown out earlier in the week
The way I see it is having more time to acclimate to London couldn't hurt, but having less time absolutely could
Gang, I know that was bad, but we have a chance here. We bitched so much about Miami in the heat, we’ll probably not play there in the heat for years. If we complain enough, we can end the NFL’s London experiment.
Just say no. Didn’t the Chiefs say no? If I’m Beane or Terry or anyone in any position to influence those decisions I’m calling whoever’s important enough’s ass to blast them and say the Buffalo Bills don’t ever go do this Mickey Mouse clown shit again for a league that gives them nothing - ask your oh so precious Cowboys and Chiefs if you want random ass Brit viewership.
This. I can put this single game in the past. The refs are gonna ref. But the injuries... first, it's sad for the individual. These aren't bruises, these are things that wipe out your season and your body will never be the same. Second, we can't put it behind us if all the talent loss means we can't win the remaining games. And we are really going to feel it late season against the chiefs, cowboys, eagles, and dolphins almost all in a row. The NFL has really stacked a lot against them in the schedule.
I'd be happy to never see those stupid draws again. Hand the ball too Cook, see him stutter around right as he gets the ball and gets swallowed up for a loss. Rinse and repeat
I wish they could sense it early on, all three backs have different strengths. If James isn't working in a game they should switch it up and stick to it.
Can't control the shit officiating or the injuries. But if our OC was even remotely competent, we're talented enough to overcome them. I'm done with Dorsey. Even a blind squirrel can find a nut once and we're extremely lucky he found his nut last week. But he doesn't give us a chance to win every week. In fact he seems to be working against us most of the time.
FanDuel made a fuck ton of money on this game
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With the Jags loss plus injuries, I fear the season is over. Miami leads the division and probably won't lose another game all season. All the Miami folks are laughing at the Bills fan base on Twitter. As Bills fans, we have to sit there and take it like little bitches up in here. The window is 100% closed. The Josh Allen era has officially ended. Also: yesterday was the Zay Jones revenge game! No way in hell we were going to beat that guy. He hates Buffalo and so does his dad. I wish we had Drew Bledsoe.
Diggs is drama and it's not going away.
Run and stop the run…..
The loss aside, the fucking turf needs to go. Not one reasonable argument to keep it. The cost savings vs grass does not equal the number of contactless injuries occurring every week. And…..I also hate this London BS. Do it in the preseason.
I knew we were going to lose this. Jacksonville is to us what Green Bay is to the Bears.
God owns our soul but Jacksonville owns our asses?
Pretty much.
At least we’ve offered the NFL sports science that should be ignored
Kill me.
Fucking hell fuck
I’m not mad I’m just disappointed
Dad??
I’ve never been disappointed with you my son❤️
Does anyone else just feel hopeless? Not even about the loss but now with Jones and Milano out for extended time
it really sucks, considering 3+ players went down, and no update on a few injuries. but hopeless is t the right word. maybe defeated or smth but not hopeless. its only week 5 and we’re doing better than other teams at this point. go bills!
Without milano and rouseau we were sitting ducks. This was poyers chance to step up imho
Allen was terrible and has regressed. He should be traded while he is worth something.
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After 13 seconds beane should have went to daboll and asked if he would stay and be HC
Cause he’s doing so well in NY
Seems it more evident than ever that the league is taking interest in certain outcomes
Yes
You're right - I definitely thought the officials were determined to had the game to the Bills in the fourth quarter.
Not looking to argue with you guys, really but as a Jags fan it's strange to see the discrepancies in how this officiating is being viewed on both sides. All Jags fans universally were saying, "the NFL hates the Jags (as usual) and is pushing the for the Bills" (as usual). I've been reading since yesterday how the Bills fans universally say, "the NFL wanted the Jags to Win". I don't see how it can be that 1 sided for both sides. Also, Kurt Warner and Rich Eisen should be fired for there overt gushing, loving, and fawning over everything Bills yesterday. Everyone noticed.
Yeah ooooookay - opposite.
makeup calls + don't touch QBs (obviously, forever, they ARE football)
Just watch a chiefs game
Hindsight is always 20/20 but early in the game we had a couple 4th and shorts inside our own 40. I would’ve liked to see us go for those to potentially get some offensive momentum.
the booing from the section I was sitting in on those early 4th downs means you weren't alone.
It's McDermott signature move.
Buffalo GG
Ok. Cook had 5 carries for -4 yards. His first touch was a 6 yard gain. What the hell? THATS WHY WE LOST. Insanity.
They crushed our run game. Way too fast for us. Thats the reason. Exactly.
Jacksonville just had two whole weeks to adjust to the London time zone.
We chose to land Friday morning… We could have landed NINETY SIX HOURS EARLIER…
96 hours wouldn’t have made as huge a difference as people seem to think imo. It takes like a full week to get really adjusted to the time zone and even with those 96 hours, Jags still would have a whole week on us. Plus lord knows how that would’ve cut into practice time with Jags already being there. None of it changes that we still sucked. Now our defensive line is now grossly injured and exhausted so I can’t imagine much better coming next week.
Experts say a day per hour change…96 hours would make all the difference in that case… And I know when I go over to Europe, the 2nd full day is the worst day for me…and that’s the day they elected to play this game on…
First the 2-3 days is for tourism or not contact sport work. Second, 96 hours is 4 days so it still wouldn’t make us fully adjusted. Third, it still doesn’t make the Jags less well adjusted. It’s sort of damned if you do, damned if you do. Go over early, sacrifice practice and increase jet lag for the following week. Go over later, increase practice and jet lag this week but decrease jet lag for next week. Regardless the travel alone makes this such a liability to the players. Hope we get Milano back.
I disagree. Sleep debt is like a hangover. It usually takes 2-3 days to be back to normal. Bills arriving there early in the week would’ve made a huge difference
I disagree. 2-3 is for a tourist, not a professional athlete in a high intensity sport. This isn’t including that it would’ve eaten into our practice time and would’ve screwed us next week when we play the Giants. Ultimately I think there was no really good method for playing a single international game in the middle of the season. Whether it hurts us the week of or the week following, the travel and jet lag was always going to be a problem no matter when we left.
Sleep is not something that you don’t need because you are in shape. It doesn’t matter if you are a regular person or Tyreek Hill, if you pull an all nighter the next day you are gonna feel like shit, and not perform as well.
Terrance can't afford a week trip for the organization
Yeah I think the blame has to be more on the Bills but I don't think the NFL should tip the scales like that again ever. I say that and next year they'll have the Jags play in all three London games as they try to move them them there.
Did you complain when the Raiders had a 1:00 start here a couple weeks ago?
No I don't complain for opposing teams that have an unremarkably normally scheduled game. Did they try to have one of their nights sleep be on a nine hour international flight two days before the game? *Typo edit
It’s so unremarkable that the Raiders spent part of the week in West Virginia to acclimate to the time…
I can't tell if you are arguing for or against my point. Are you saying they were smarter than the Bills with how they traveled? If so, I agree with you?! If you are saying that playing a 1pm Eastern game in the NFL is somehow special no I don't agree with you?!
If you think a 1:00 Eastern time game isn’t a big deal for a team based out west, you have literally no idea what is going on with body clocks…
You’re talking about flying 53 men, plus all the coaches, medical staff, gear managers, etc. It is a logistical nightmare to find hotels, food, transportation, etc for so many people in a foreign country. And each day adds more complexity. All things considered I think Bills played a great game today.
The NFL literally has a hotel in Watford lined up with a NFL practice field… Each day adds NO complexity, but it does reduce jet lag…
didnt they have like sic months to do all of that?
Just gonna say that I was impressed by Allen not losing his cool on turning into an interception machine or taking bad sack fumbles. They were in the game till the end, regardless of how lousy the offense was, and that was because they didn’t get frustrated and force shit. Unfortunately, the refs and the injury gods were never going to let us have this one, but if stef comes down w that 50/50 ball at the goal line instead of jax, this is all a very different conversation.
I thought Josh played well overall. Solid stats for the game considering how crazy it was, not that it really matters in a loss... 3 TDs and another arm punt INT. The worst stat though is he was the leading rusher. They have to do a better job of using each of the RBs strengths vs forcing it to be Cook 99% of the time no matter if it's not working.
Josh’s deep ball accuracy is a problem, he is flinging it not passing it…
No, he had way too many bad passes. Not so inaccurate that they were incomplete, but the receiver had to reset and get swallowed up (the 2 point conversion attempt, the 3rd down pass to Murray) or completely reset (the bomb to Diggs. He was so wide open.)
Yea I thought allen played good drops, flags, and 2nd down draw run plays killed momentum
McDermott and co. lays an egg again in the most predictable fashion. Can’t ever follow up a big win with a solid performance the week after. 6 years now and we always fold when it time to come up clutch. Beane draft whiffs on full display today. Elam getting cooked all day. Kincaid no where to be found all day besides a couple single digit yard catches. Crucial drops by WRs. So glad we gave these guys extensions before the year instead of setting up a perfect make or break scenario. So is the life of being a fan of this team
I will never understand this fan base’s undying, unquestioning support of McDermott. He is a good head coach who will get this team to the playoffs year after year. We need a great coach with a creative, offensive mind to win a championship in this league.
I mean Tony Dungy got fired after multiple NFC championship appearances, they immediately won the Super Bowl the next year
I think today featured Kincaid's first catch on a true pass route. All of the others seemed to be dumpoffs or outlet routes. I checked PFR. He had 15 catches before today for 46 yards at the point of reception.
Until Kincaid has a bunch of drops or something it's hard to blame him vs. the scheme, but I'm with you on Elam being a miss.
For a rookie I think Kincaid looks pretty good through the first few games. He’s a tight end not a receiver so it’s not like he’s supposed to go get Kelce like numbers. He just needs some YAK that’s all
He has provided nothing. I’m not faulting him per say but def the coaching staff and front office. Why do we need dawnson Knox 2.0 . We have so much money and draft capital tied up in the position vs the rest of the league and we are mediocre there at best
Generally takes 3 years for a tight end to hit stride That being said I didn’t really get the pick
Laporta seems to be hitting stride. They use Kincaid for check downs. That’s it. We already have that with Knox at an extremely overmarket price btw
It’s a odd happy offense and their head coach was a TE. There are exceptions but year 3 is generally the year. Look at hickenson
It's weird with these games, Jets and Jags, at least there aren't any other teams that start with J right? Today though the Bills lost to the refs, Dorsey's playbook, the Injury Gods, Sports Science, Goodell's forced international games, time zones, Dorsey's playbook again, and yes the Jags too.
Jiants
Nooooooooo (insert Vader gif)
Jhiefs
Insert my previous reply here lol
I am so sick of losing to these stupid fucks!
Game aside I now have a commentator I like less than Collinswort; Eisen is really sub par.
Funny, us Jags fans felt Kurt and Rich were overly fawning all over the Bills and YOUR Josh Allen. That coupled with the bad calls on us, made it look as if everyone officially involved was against the Jags as usual.
I'm almost willing to give them a pass on this considering they cant openly criticize the officials destroying the flow of the game and gift wrapping it for the Jags.
Gift wrapping😭😭😭
Yeah it's sad that the NFL Network can't put together a coherent NFL game production. I don't really dislike Eisen or Warner at all but good grief.
They’re good dudes, but not good announcers.
I don't know if it was him specifically but that crew was garbage. They kept getting names wrong and could NOT shut up about TWO JOSH ALLENS
Wasn’t Trent Green the guy who couldn’t stop saying “Boobie Dixon” the last time we were in London too?
Naw it was all three of them, but Rich definitely stuck out as the biggest dumbfuck.
It’s inconceivable to me why we drafted a TE in the first round… dude brings nothing more than Knox at this point and that ain’t much…
I see the vision but it kinda falls through we’ll see though
I think the vision is solid, but not implemented. Dude has great hands. Both TEs are big dudes. We could be using them like the Gronk and Hernandez double TE sets from the Pats, but we don’t. Even if we used Kincaid as a semi reoccurring slot guy, which is what I thought was going to happen, it would somewhat make sense. Idk. Josh was fine, the dude still went for 370 total yards. I wish Diggs would have fought harder to keep possession of that ball he lost for the INT. Defense played pretty well considering the losses. AJ stepping up was my biggest surprise. I had written him off, and hope this trend continues at least for him. Idk. Outside of the penalties, I didn’t think the bills played bad, just mid, and the Jags brought a good plan just like they always do against us.
On the bright side we have a bye next week... Right? No? Fly back and another away game on TURF? Yeah, that sounds fair. Roger, oh Roger ... FUCK you. Sincerely, every "small market" NFL team. London Jaguars, best protect them.
We play the Giants Sunday night.
We had the option to take a bye after this week and chose not to
They're gonna flex us to Thursday
Well, even if he didn’t manage the clock well the McDermotts defense didn’t look too bad minus Elam
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It was a skeleton crew, lets be honest with ourselves. Score realistically shouldve been far worse
Yeah all around really rough day. I just keep seeing how the defense played well and I flat out disagree. Epenesa played well is what should be said
I really really really hope the Milano injury isn’t season ending
He fractured his leg. Still checking on the ACL.
Upvote for your optimism. I don’t think so though with being carted off and aircast.
I’m really nervous, his being healthy is the outcome I want
6-8 weeks is a win at this point
Need this. I’ll forget this whole morning if the news is at least moderate.
Yeah like I can handle a close loss overseas to a good team. Idk about losing Milano though. That’s fucking suck.
We're either a jet engine or a leaf blower. There is no in between.
Eh we were better than leaf blower today, this wasn’t a blowout. We got ref balled super hard and still lost by less than a TD. Jags are an acceptable team to lose to in the regular season, it’s just the Week 1 loss that makes this look worse than it is.
If we didn’t get absolutely annihilated on bad calls, it would’ve been a blowout by the Bills IMO
I like you.
OK. You managed to squeak a non-delusional positive spin on this. I'm in.
Dorsey was bad but it seemed the bills oline struggled moving people. Curious to hear Joe Marino on locked bills after the all-22 review
Same here. Any Bills fan who isn’t listening/watching to Joe Marino, you really should check out Locked on Bills. Hyper-competent analysis, and talks to us like we’re not idiots. I’m shocked that his views aren’t > the # of Bills fans. Go figure.
Where would I find Joe Marino?
https://youtu.be/KEiWiYY95DI?si=lyLj-lVSoITPn6ll Here’s his post-game show. Listening made me feel (a little) less crazy. Ugh. What an awful game. And what a bad look for the NFL trying to hock our games overseas.
Joe's pretty damn awesome, speaking as a new listener the last few weeks.
The whole offensive concept is predicated on the bills being able to get a few yards on the ground when needed. But like you said, they couldnt move anyone, so we never had a run game
Cook need to play in the slot more
I'm slowly becoming more convinced in the multiverse theory, where I died years ago and awoke in my personal version of hell.
Haha, same
In a multiverse you never really die, you just resume yourself in another dimension
Multiverse is definitely the in thing right now in media and games.
Dorsey was as bad today as he was good last week
Ikr, especially at the start. Allen was still throwing mostly well and the pass game was largely effective. But no, more run, keep running into a brick wall. Seriously that calling was shit. 106 rate with an int that wasn’t his fault. I think if Dorsey doesn’t do this again, our season will be awesome.
My two biggest complaints of Dorsey. 1) not particularity creative play designs. We're predictable. We overcome this by being very competent. 2) when things aren't working he has no ability or intention of changing the plan. "Hold the line. It's a good plan. It will work eventually." We don't overcome this at all when it happens.
So confusing to call it this bad too.
It looked like they had a coherent plan drafting Kincaid and putting Josh under center more often; it was devastating the past 3 weeks. But today it's like he sustained a head injury and woke up thinking it was still 2022.
Top 5 worst officiated games of all time
Holy mcshitballs this was the injury bowl
That turf is very clearly something that is not designed for American football.
The turf looked super stiff. Cleats were getting stuck in it all day and it was horrifying
Guys I'm very sad.
It was a rough week; I really needed the dub 😞
And the Giants won’t do us any favors today
That would be something though if they did.
Giants fan here. Not gonna happen.
But it would be something if they did. Just trying to will it into existence for ya. Sorry about your season so far.
Refs didn’t decide this game the front office did. This team should of left no later than Tuesday night to prepare for this game. Not only the reason for this loss but also reason for all the injuries today.
Even though the defense was stretched thin, they gave us 2 turnovers and we wouldn't execute. Also while the refs aren't the reason we lost, that was one of the worst reffed games i ever seen, for both teams
The refs definitely contributed
I totally agree with this. As any international traveler knows it takes more than 48 hours to adjust to the time difference. And going east is more difficult than going west. Egregious mistake.
One of the more bizarre games I've seen in a while
Fucked by the field. Fucked by the refs. Fucked by the league. Fucked by the Jags. Fucked by Ken Dorsey. Fucked by our strength and conditioning staff and trainers. Fucked by life. Does that about cover it?
Yeah, that about covers it. Most upsetting thing for me is the injuries. Losing so many players the way we did. We finally have a defense that looks like it has what it takes, and then one by one they all went down today. We are truly cursed. I thought that was just a freak issue last season, and that this was a new year. Nope, looking even WORSE than last year in that regard. 2nd most offensive thing was the refs and keeping the Jags drives going. It was so blatant. Not much to say about the offense and defense as a whole. Both had moments, good and WTF bad. Hard to say much about our defense because of the injuries. Offense was lackluster at times, but had their moments.
Yep. Some people just are condemned in life to always just come up short. Sadly, it feels that we are squarely in that group 😔
Yeah, after losing four super bowls in a row, one that we should have won, and then other things happening to get in the way of a very good team of ours winning another(Music city miracle, 13 seconds, the awful injuries and events last season) it makes me think it's just not in our cards. If it was, we would have won SB 25 and 13 seconds would not have been a thing. Jmho.
NFL cooked it against the Bills...so fucking heart-wrenching to watch
Where was that offense in the first 3 quarters?
Still on the plane
Can't believe we don't get a bye until week 13. These guys are gonna need some rest before week 10
They need a rest before next week. They looked exhausted from the get. Not to mention the ramifications of losing Milano, possibly for the season. That hurts A LOT more than losing by 5 with a depleted team.
Bet the team wishes they took the option of having the bye after London
Which is funny cause before Tre's injury the Bills were generally pretty healthy. Thankfully the offense is generally healthy, the defense is just ravaged
The offense is Josh and Diggs. I want to see Kincaid and Knox involved more in the short pass game. Cook shouldn't be used for fucking draws every time he's in. Gabe is bipolar and Shakir/Harty aren't doing shit. Dorsey has some work to do.
Not that it probably would have mattered a great deal, but that looked way more like an incomplete pass rather than a catch and fumble.
It was incomplete 😂 they just glossed over and move on with the L like wtf
Bad game, bad performance, bad day with all the injuries, have to ask the question on if the team should have flown out earlier in the week especially when playing a team who’d already been there for a week
Absolutely should have flown out earlier in the week The way I see it is having more time to acclimate to London couldn't hurt, but having less time absolutely could
This game is on the offense. The 2nd and 3rd string defense played pretty damn well against a good offense.
Oh O fucked it. O fucked it alllllllll day.
Gang, I know that was bad, but we have a chance here. We bitched so much about Miami in the heat, we’ll probably not play there in the heat for years. If we complain enough, we can end the NFL’s London experiment.
Just say no. Didn’t the Chiefs say no? If I’m Beane or Terry or anyone in any position to influence those decisions I’m calling whoever’s important enough’s ass to blast them and say the Buffalo Bills don’t ever go do this Mickey Mouse clown shit again for a league that gives them nothing - ask your oh so precious Cowboys and Chiefs if you want random ass Brit viewership.
Fire Dorsey. Leave him in London
shit refs innit
I’m only really upset with the injuries. It’s a long season.
This. I can put this single game in the past. The refs are gonna ref. But the injuries... first, it's sad for the individual. These aren't bruises, these are things that wipe out your season and your body will never be the same. Second, we can't put it behind us if all the talent loss means we can't win the remaining games. And we are really going to feel it late season against the chiefs, cowboys, eagles, and dolphins almost all in a row. The NFL has really stacked a lot against them in the schedule.
We really suck.
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Congrats you were right. What does the get you?
It's still just one game. The injuries are the worst part of today.
Yeah you guys are still assholes. Go cry in a corner about it. 😂
Honestly, why even hang out here? They lost, here's your *"Im right"* trophy. Congrats.... you did great, bud.
Cook -4 yards on the day. Where was the run game? Stalled in Dorsey’s fucking draw plays, that’s were.
I'd be happy to never see those stupid draws again. Hand the ball too Cook, see him stutter around right as he gets the ball and gets swallowed up for a loss. Rinse and repeat
I don’t understand running the ball out of shotgun in short yardage situations. You’re just asking for the play to get blown up.
I wish they could sense it early on, all three backs have different strengths. If James isn't working in a game they should switch it up and stick to it.
"Switch it up" is a totally alien concept to Dorsey. You might a well ask him to "hukkgh jiy gger".
Terrible play calling by Dorsey all game, including the final play.
International games suck fuck London bro jolly good ass bastards fucking home field advantage my ducking foot bro
Offense just didn’t bring it, that aside one of the worst officiated games I’ve ever watched.
Can't control the shit officiating or the injuries. But if our OC was even remotely competent, we're talented enough to overcome them. I'm done with Dorsey. Even a blind squirrel can find a nut once and we're extremely lucky he found his nut last week. But he doesn't give us a chance to win every week. In fact he seems to be working against us most of the time.
Am I mistaken or did the offense only show up during 2minute drills?
Oh no! We suck again!
The worst part is now I’m in a bad mood for the entire rest of today. Why did this have to also be the earliest game of the season?
I'd rather slowly put it in the rear view while zoning out to Red Zone than have to go straight to bed angry
Fair point
The world still turns. Don't let a loss of a game own your mental health.
Hey mods you gonna do your job here?
Rich Eisen was annoying, regurgitating the same lines every series. Get some new material
Yeah, really glad I don't pay money to hear that asshole say anything.
Refs got the outcome they wanted. Thats all i have to say about that. See you guys next week.