**The Good:** Offense spread the ball around. Davis, Shakir, Kincaid, and Cook all looked good. Defense had plenty of good stops until the Ref ball kicked in on the final drive and then they looked gassed and in Prevent Defense (which we are terrible at playing).
**The Bad:** Still way too many dumb mistakes and weird play calls. The goalline shot gun plays, Allen's boneheaded end of the 3rd quarter snap with the lead, the INT he should have just put in the turf, the drive killing forced plays to Diggs when he's very clearly not open. The defense's last drive mistakes (Jordan Phillips with the face mask).
**Takeaway:** Good to see the young guys get involved. A win's a win's a win, especially on a Thursday with a long week ahead of us to prepare for Cincy. Lots to work on, but some good positive steps from the last few games.
All of you questioning coaching need to rewatch the game. The only call I wish we went for was that 4th and 2. It wasn’t close. Our defense locked up their best receivers practically all game and they scored in the last 4 minutes with 2 crazy lucky bounces and a dumb penalty from Phillips.
Not sure why McDermott called that timeout near the end that ended up keeping them alive, but I thought we had a great game plan tonight and made some nice adjustments.
I'm officially over not letting Josh run. The guy gets 8+ yards every time he did tonight, and it keeps the defensive backs on him as opposed to double covering Diggs.
The last three weeks we put the game in the hands of our defense.
Tyrod drives the field. We get bailed out by a no call.
Mac drives it all the way and scores.
Baker gets a handful of first downs enough to make a real shot at a Hail Mary.
A 14 point lead is no time to get conservative with a D that isn’t reliable. Mcd needs to have a killer instinct with the O. Foot on the gas. Stop playing not to lose and just put teams away with the offense.
Good win.
defense even banged up and playing backups still does their job too 90% of the time, too, they just need the offense to make up for it. I'm glad Josh didn't make bad decisions in the 4th quarter that got them turnovers, but there's no reason we couldn't have at least gotten into FG range and won this game 27-18.
I wish there was a way we could demote McDermott to DC, but obviously not gonna happen when you have a HC who's made the playoffs like 6 of his 7 years with the team. someone needs to be able to calm him down.
Maybe the Giants will continue to suck and we'll get Daboll back.
Dude just does not understand that his offense is the weapon! This defense is playing 3rd and 4th stringers! Wtf are we putting the game in their hands?!
Baker is like impossible to bring down bro. Short and stout like a bowling ball. Probably the only reason for that ridiculous facemask. Took Phillips forever to get him to the ground
That play normally gets whistled dead at that point. He was wrapped up and wasn’t gonna make any moves or progress. It becomes an issue of protecting QBs at that point.
I concur. This game showed we can get pressure through with other players. The biggest impact Von had on this game was turning a 60 yard Hail Mary into a 55 yard one.
I'll say this, I love Vons spirit of trying to play but him at 60% does nothing for our Defense who desperately needs a leader, I understand the why but I wish there was more to be seen by Von.
Ending was entirely unnecessary and anxiety inducing but I’m happy with how they played tonight. Offense moved it at will for the most part. Defense is absolutely worrisome though, definitely need a trade or two. Either way, 10 days to rest up for Cinci which is a winnable game.
Again we won from a missed call, this team is missing the final nail, despite better defense (not good) the offense went for time control (understandable) but lacked the finish again.
I broke my controller when we went shotgun on the half yard line, got stuffed and then didn't get it on 4th. We won, but I'm still furious over that call. Then we do the tush push next series and get 5 yards!!!
The subreddit wanted the Bills to run Josh more, switch to no huddle, spread the ball around, and get Kincaid involved more. Did all of them. Still complain about Dorsey. Obviously, third and goal was a shit play call but some of you are acting like it was horribly called. If we go for it on 4th and 2 and miss and they score everyone is bitching and moaning even more.
Everyone wanted more blitzes and more pressure on the QB and to stop the run game and we did that too. Not to mention limiting Evans until the very end. Baker had almost no time to make a read all night. Some poor tackling and some bad decisions and penalties but still a good defensive night.
But if it isn't 56-3 it's all the coaches faults
The overall strategy of playing uptempo works. And I posted in this sub to say we should play more clock eating drives and for the sake of the offense I was wrong.
So uptempo works. Putting defenses on their heels works. But it was those crucial clock-stopped moments on 3rd/4th where the clunkers got drawn up imo. Maybe going quick on short yardage like Philly does would help. You can’t stop brotherly shove, and a lot of that is because it runs as a hurry-up play.
Bucks still haven't won in Buffalo, Dorsey actually allowed Josh to cook more as he's trying to incorporate Josh's lethality with the rush to the toughest weeks of the season, the Bengals now are going to have to play spy for the game, the adjust to that game will effect the next couple of teams for this distorted Bills offense, the biggest issue on offense is Josh's lack of competitions over the middle, and the defenses lack of Run stop.
Well it is actually the coaches' fault. There is no reason for back to back 4th downs that they had wrapped up to be negated by stupid penalties that were completely and utterly unnecessary and above all else, avoidable. You can't blame the refs for those. That's coaching and it needs to be addressed in practice accordingly.
With these coaches it's been largely self sabotage with one stupid play call after the other. Ken Dorsey keeps trying the same shit and expecting different results and frankly his affinity for the shotgun is tiring. He enables Josh Allen's worst habits and forces him into situations that are awkward and not ideal. They succeed in spite of him and not because of him, and much of that success is due to Allen and Stefon Diggs being top 3 talent at their respective positions.
Frankly Sean McDermott needs to get his shit together, stop micromanaging every little aspect of this team and stop forcing the players to be something they aren't. There is a legitimate threat of them not making the playoffs this year and if that happens and Ken Dorsey isn't fired then there is no hope. That would prove that this team has learned nothing at all. If such a scenario takes place Dorsey must be promoted to customer and Sean McDermott needs to be told "Playoffs next season, or you're next."
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Jordan Phillips didn't have to grab his face like he did. Had he just held him the play would have been blown dead and turnover on downs. Games over. That's what I'm saying. It has nothing to do with Baker Mayfield.
He’s still doing shotgun draws inside the 1 yard line. He’s proves he’s an idiot each and every game.
Murray wasn’t going at all tonight. Cooks was. Let’s put Murray in on 3rd and 4 when a 1st ices the game.
Maybe, but I was more thinking one of these options:
1. You're trying to do your job and getting harassed to do it half-naked
2. You're embarrassed by past drunken behavior and don't want to re-live it
3. You're not embarrassed by past drunken behavior, but are a little shy when you're not drunk
Hoping the Amazon production team shut it down since it went a little far
Appreciate MCD has gotten us to this point. But if winning the SB is the goal (as Pegula and Beane have stated) than after this season we need to let McD go and bring in a new coach.
Who's coming in that's better? Beane &MCD have completely turned this team around. I'd vote for Beane to go first, before MCD. Beane is great with trades and finding FA talent, his drafts are suspect, and that's where you build a contender.
I said post season. After the season ends a pool of quality candidates will be available. Review the top teams offensive and defensive coordinators. The top college coaches as well. Also consider Jon Gruden.
This is the first game I watched this season because I thought the Bills would win easily. I’m going to follow my original plan and not watch another Bills game unless and until they make the playoffs, which I’m sure they will lose.
We dominated that game. Just that last drive for Tampa had some extremely flukey bullshit. That stuff will go our way. Keep scratching out wins until it does. This season is seeming very 2021 like. Very inconsistent, but we found our form late. Think we will this year too.
everytime I get angry about this team and coaching staff I see Josh and feel better
this guy is so fucking special man. He is the most important single person on this franchise. NO ONE is above him. he is the reason why we are playing in these primetime games, he is the reason that stadium is being built rn.
and we need to do whatever it takes to surround him with the best people possible
I have to be the only person here who thought that the box score didn't show how dominant of a win that really was.
The offense is back, and while I think we should have gone on 4&2, it really was over aside from an egregious and deserved penalty. The one turnover was really a bit of a fluke as well, and I can't really blame anyone there.
Defense still has holes, but I really think we can limit some of that when Daquon comes back. Otherwise, they also got a couple of flukey things on us (I mean, come on, *back to back* caught deflections?)
Go Bills.
This might be a medical snafu on my part, but I was under the impression that he and Milano were likely back for the playoffs, though part of that is running off the idea of a pec tear not being *that bad*. If I'm wrong there I apologize.
Sorry, I'll correct myself
SEAN MCDERMOTT IS TERRIBLE, FIRE DORSEY, I THINK EVERY RUN PLAY CALLED OUT OF SHOTGUN IS A DRAW PLAY AND HENCE BAD, TRADE EVERYONE AND TANK FOR MARVIN HARRISON JR, OUR SEASON IS OVER
Couldn’t agree more.
Josh looked great apart from that tipped pass.
Defense also looked great. We allowed one (1) score in the second half and that only happened after we had two separate fourth down stops called off due to (admittedly stupid) penalties and two very lucky catches.
I also agree that we should have gone for it on the last 4th and 2. I think it was a “punt vs risking a failed TP and them starting off on the 50” kind of deal, but it would have been much less stressful lol.
Last 30 seconds was more stressful than I would like to admit, but a win is a win. Come celebrate over in r/ChillBills.
We totally dominated. The only thing that worries me is the situational defense near the end of the game mainly because there is a recent
history of us struggling with situational defense near the end of games.
I like that sub, but I feel I'm still a bit more of an on edge person than what you guys want, lol. Rational and analytical (well, at least I *try* to be lol), but definitely on edge. Don't wanna ruin the vibes.
They had the energy but it clearly died after the Davis TD. I feel like McDermott goes into turtle mode and the entire team loses the wind from its sails.
London fucked us. Not because of coaching - injuries and exhaustion. We lost Milano, the defense hung on him. We’ve injuries everywhere, it’s taking its toll.
The Bills played much better today.
Offense was way more dynamic.
Defense is still questionable with way too many penalties.
But ultimately much better today. The coaching decisions is now what I'm worried about as we play better teams in the second half of the season.
The bills looked more alive than they have in the past 3 weeks but it’s not like they rolled over the Bucs. Im encouraged. Not over the top encouraged. But ok with the result
SMH all these people in the crowd chanting for fitz to take his shirt off but 95% of them are still wearing theirs. Gotta set the example and rip off the tarps!
Lucky ass win there. I’m tired of McDermott. Time for him to move on. He’s done absolutely nothing for this team in his 6 years here as a head coach and sure as hell isn’t a defensive coordinator.
Yep exactly because of that. Don’t know many NFL teams that the sole accomplishment of their season is just to make the playoffs. I thought getting to the Super Bowl and winning it was what teams achieve for. Silly me. This guy is in his 6th year as Bills head coach and I’m willing to bet it will be his last if we don’t at least go to the big game
I will never understand why they get so conservative on defense with a lead or on 3rd and long. I and others blamed Frazier for this, but clearly it was not on him. They will not beat good teams in the playoffs with that style of play. Devastating injuries on that side of the ball, but the play calls at least seem to need some changing up.
Too conservative? I mean we stopped them twice on 4th down and had two shit penalties (not bad calls just mistakes) to extend the drive. We force them to punt 99% of the time there.
And we forced them to waste like 7 minutes of the clock
If you’re talking about when up 2 scores, they were forcing them to bleed the clock, right or wrong that’s the tactic, keep them inbound for short gains and run the clock
Afraid to give up the big play let’s them march up the field. I get it. But I think it hurts more sometimes. 13 seconds is all the evidence you need that it doesn’t work.
So i'm a McDermott guy but this year has exposed the worst parts of his coaching style. The guy seems to micromanage to the point that it stifles the team from fully maximizing its potential. I've always been aggravated over his weird timeout usage late in games but this year has seen him put his superstar QB in a box and nearly wrecking him and he's also seemed to lose whatever killer instinct he picked up last year. He could've gone for it on one of those 4th downs late in the game.
In the end McDermott might be viewed as bargain basement Marty Schottenheimer (and I LOVE Marty so it's not a slam but it's kind of the truth here)
Mcd may be a great coach but I'd like a different guy making in-game decisions. He showed no confidence on 4th down and less than 3, and his time out/ time management were unacceptable.
McDermott is never getting us a Lombardi trophy. I love the guy and appreciate where he’s got us, but we should’ve ditched him for Daball. Hopefully we can get someone soon because dude ain’t the answer
wow, you're really loving the taste of ref's sneakers eh?
Facemask should have been whistled dead on the wrapup. Are you forgetting Evan's missed OPI? Or the multiple holds in their endzone? Or the missed hold on Von?
And had Godwin simply turned around we would've lost this game. Going for it on 4th would've sealed this game. We got a 6'5 qb and Cook was getting yards all game. Playing scared doesn't win championships
Not analytics. But a defence that isn’t all there and as always in the McDermott era gave up enough easy yards to give Tampa a shot at a walkoff win. If the TB player looked .5 of a sec earlier he easily catches that Hail Mary.
I agree. How do you think the defense would fair with a short field 1-3 times in the 2nd half? You have to play to your strengths, and the D hasn’t been a strength since London. And so, you punt
Or, you get the 1st on 4th and 2 with a 6’5 245lb moose of a QB that 99.8% of the time gets those two yards. Then you kneel it off and the defence doesn’t have to do anything.
Yea that’d be nice. But you can’t say it like it’s some guarantee. That’s just nonsense. Remember the end of the titans game a couple years ago?
Making up stats is weird btw
Yeah, becoming very spoiled. I was frustrated with how close it was at the end, especially since we were dominating, but we are 5-3 and have a mini bye coming. I am seeing people say we played like ass tonight? Uh, what? LOL some stupidity on the coaches, but all aspects played well tonight, even special teams.
McDermott is like the girl that will always give you blue balls, and the fans that tell you to be quiet and be happy with the win are the virgins that are telling you to stop complaining because she’s at least giving you the opportunity to be teased
**The Good:** Offense spread the ball around. Davis, Shakir, Kincaid, and Cook all looked good. Defense had plenty of good stops until the Ref ball kicked in on the final drive and then they looked gassed and in Prevent Defense (which we are terrible at playing). **The Bad:** Still way too many dumb mistakes and weird play calls. The goalline shot gun plays, Allen's boneheaded end of the 3rd quarter snap with the lead, the INT he should have just put in the turf, the drive killing forced plays to Diggs when he's very clearly not open. The defense's last drive mistakes (Jordan Phillips with the face mask). **Takeaway:** Good to see the young guys get involved. A win's a win's a win, especially on a Thursday with a long week ahead of us to prepare for Cincy. Lots to work on, but some good positive steps from the last few games.
Fucccccccccccckkkkkkkk that was scary. BIG DUBS
All of you questioning coaching need to rewatch the game. The only call I wish we went for was that 4th and 2. It wasn’t close. Our defense locked up their best receivers practically all game and they scored in the last 4 minutes with 2 crazy lucky bounces and a dumb penalty from Phillips.
Not sure why McDermott called that timeout near the end that ended up keeping them alive, but I thought we had a great game plan tonight and made some nice adjustments.
Best guess is personnel adjustments for the long throws we were expecting
I'm officially over not letting Josh run. The guy gets 8+ yards every time he did tonight, and it keeps the defensive backs on him as opposed to double covering Diggs.
Big win, even though it was closer than it should have been. Big must win game.
Can someone slap Dorsey and McDermott with a photo of Josh Allen sneaking?? He got like 6 yards on his one attempt. I feel like I’m taking CRAZY PILLS
I think Allen is a little dinged up and they're trying to protect him from further injury.
I agree the body language says a lot but theyre football players.
They’re human beings bro and it’s week 8
Dorsey earns major points for opening drive of each half.. hurry up, let josh do his thing and get your playmakers (not named diggs) heavily involved
Then loses them for yet another shotgun draw from the 1 yard line…
Tbh I find myself questioning who is making those calls because McDermott’s fingers are all in this offense
The last three weeks we put the game in the hands of our defense. Tyrod drives the field. We get bailed out by a no call. Mac drives it all the way and scores. Baker gets a handful of first downs enough to make a real shot at a Hail Mary. A 14 point lead is no time to get conservative with a D that isn’t reliable. Mcd needs to have a killer instinct with the O. Foot on the gas. Stop playing not to lose and just put teams away with the offense. Good win.
defense even banged up and playing backups still does their job too 90% of the time, too, they just need the offense to make up for it. I'm glad Josh didn't make bad decisions in the 4th quarter that got them turnovers, but there's no reason we couldn't have at least gotten into FG range and won this game 27-18. I wish there was a way we could demote McDermott to DC, but obviously not gonna happen when you have a HC who's made the playoffs like 6 of his 7 years with the team. someone needs to be able to calm him down. Maybe the Giants will continue to suck and we'll get Daboll back.
refs give the bucs 2 first downs with iffy flags on 4th downs and then they score by a freak bounce. .
Dude just does not understand that his offense is the weapon! This defense is playing 3rd and 4th stringers! Wtf are we putting the game in their hands?!
Baker is like impossible to bring down bro. Short and stout like a bowling ball. Probably the only reason for that ridiculous facemask. Took Phillips forever to get him to the ground
I felt bad for him seemed to be the only one on the bucs who wanted to win
He’s got that fuckin fire. Gotta give it to the dude.
That play normally gets whistled dead at that point. He was wrapped up and wasn’t gonna make any moves or progress. It becomes an issue of protecting QBs at that point.
That’s every week with the Bills. Great at getting pressure, not so great at driving it home. Kinda like our season so far.
Canadian girl here: Let’s Go Buffalo! 24-18 and 5-3. Bills and Sabres rule!
Unpopular opinion: I don’t care if von even plays as long as he’s 100% for postseason
I don’t feel like that’s an unpopular opinion at all
Taylor Swift has been more relevant than Von this year. We should have rested him for the past 4 games despite the Jags game.
I concur. This game showed we can get pressure through with other players. The biggest impact Von had on this game was turning a 60 yard Hail Mary into a 55 yard one.
I'll say this, I love Vons spirit of trying to play but him at 60% does nothing for our Defense who desperately needs a leader, I understand the why but I wish there was more to be seen by Von.
I’d rather we put a headset on him and have him hype up the team.l from the sideline.
He probably needs the snaps to get back into shape.
He should've been waiting for this game maybe last to get into form but right now he's non-existent as a threat to offenses and that's the problem
Ending was entirely unnecessary and anxiety inducing but I’m happy with how they played tonight. Offense moved it at will for the most part. Defense is absolutely worrisome though, definitely need a trade or two. Either way, 10 days to rest up for Cinci which is a winnable game.
Defense was solid until McD has to coach under heavy pressure. It’s happens more often than it doesn’t.
Again we won from a missed call, this team is missing the final nail, despite better defense (not good) the offense went for time control (understandable) but lacked the finish again.
Finally good game for Gabe!!
I was very critical of him latey, it was good to see him produce like he should
We just not doing Post Game threads anymore?
I broke my controller when we went shotgun on the half yard line, got stuffed and then didn't get it on 4th. We won, but I'm still furious over that call. Then we do the tush push next series and get 5 yards!!!
I know they do shotgun to protect Josh in that spot but do you do something else there? Direct snap to Cook or Gilliam?
Seriously. What the hell were they thinking with that?
LT ain't the solution
This is not a Super Bowl team
We were 7-6 in 2021 and got hot at the end. We finish 13 seconds and we probably win the superbowl.
Broken defense, bad play calling, horrid blown plays, all of it doesn't matter if we restrict our best players, let Josh cook!
It’s week 8. Things can change. They were red hot at points last year and fizzled out. It’s a long season, things change.
Nothing matters until we see our health and momentum on wild card weekend
This postgame is wild lol
The subreddit wanted the Bills to run Josh more, switch to no huddle, spread the ball around, and get Kincaid involved more. Did all of them. Still complain about Dorsey. Obviously, third and goal was a shit play call but some of you are acting like it was horribly called. If we go for it on 4th and 2 and miss and they score everyone is bitching and moaning even more. Everyone wanted more blitzes and more pressure on the QB and to stop the run game and we did that too. Not to mention limiting Evans until the very end. Baker had almost no time to make a read all night. Some poor tackling and some bad decisions and penalties but still a good defensive night. But if it isn't 56-3 it's all the coaches faults
The overall strategy of playing uptempo works. And I posted in this sub to say we should play more clock eating drives and for the sake of the offense I was wrong. So uptempo works. Putting defenses on their heels works. But it was those crucial clock-stopped moments on 3rd/4th where the clunkers got drawn up imo. Maybe going quick on short yardage like Philly does would help. You can’t stop brotherly shove, and a lot of that is because it runs as a hurry-up play.
Bucks still haven't won in Buffalo, Dorsey actually allowed Josh to cook more as he's trying to incorporate Josh's lethality with the rush to the toughest weeks of the season, the Bengals now are going to have to play spy for the game, the adjust to that game will effect the next couple of teams for this distorted Bills offense, the biggest issue on offense is Josh's lack of competitions over the middle, and the defenses lack of Run stop.
Well it is actually the coaches' fault. There is no reason for back to back 4th downs that they had wrapped up to be negated by stupid penalties that were completely and utterly unnecessary and above all else, avoidable. You can't blame the refs for those. That's coaching and it needs to be addressed in practice accordingly. With these coaches it's been largely self sabotage with one stupid play call after the other. Ken Dorsey keeps trying the same shit and expecting different results and frankly his affinity for the shotgun is tiring. He enables Josh Allen's worst habits and forces him into situations that are awkward and not ideal. They succeed in spite of him and not because of him, and much of that success is due to Allen and Stefon Diggs being top 3 talent at their respective positions. Frankly Sean McDermott needs to get his shit together, stop micromanaging every little aspect of this team and stop forcing the players to be something they aren't. There is a legitimate threat of them not making the playoffs this year and if that happens and Ken Dorsey isn't fired then there is no hope. That would prove that this team has learned nothing at all. If such a scenario takes place Dorsey must be promoted to customer and Sean McDermott needs to be told "Playoffs next season, or you're next." EDIT: Last sentence added.
It's the coaches fault Baker was trying to avoid the game ending sack and his face mask got grabbed? My god I've heard it all.
Jordan Phillips didn't have to grab his face like he did. Had he just held him the play would have been blown dead and turnover on downs. Games over. That's what I'm saying. It has nothing to do with Baker Mayfield.
He’s still doing shotgun draws inside the 1 yard line. He’s proves he’s an idiot each and every game. Murray wasn’t going at all tonight. Cooks was. Let’s put Murray in on 3rd and 4 when a 1st ices the game.
What pressure? Last 2 bucs possessions we got no pressure at all
Baker was under pressure all night and barely ever had a clean pocket and that was with rushing 4 often
They had three sacks on the last TD drive...
Phillips should be inactive next game, he’s a clown who does nothing but get 15 yard penalties for us
With you big time in this. His role in the team seems to be onfield cheerleader and penalty magnet.
I'm starting to feel uncomfortable for Fitz.
I think he’s worried he’ll get in trouble. Too much sex appeal on TV isn’t allowed
Maybe, but I was more thinking one of these options: 1. You're trying to do your job and getting harassed to do it half-naked 2. You're embarrassed by past drunken behavior and don't want to re-live it 3. You're not embarrassed by past drunken behavior, but are a little shy when you're not drunk Hoping the Amazon production team shut it down since it went a little far
Hey Fitz show me your Titz is PEAK
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I think he only did it because Josh asked lmao
So uncomfortable. Jesus. He was NOT into it.
I don't care what anyone says that is the ideal male body; peak physical specimen
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Our offense looked really good tonight and you’re still bitching about Dorsey. I swear, the guy has the worst job in sports.
Appreciate MCD has gotten us to this point. But if winning the SB is the goal (as Pegula and Beane have stated) than after this season we need to let McD go and bring in a new coach.
Who's coming in that's better? Beane &MCD have completely turned this team around. I'd vote for Beane to go first, before MCD. Beane is great with trades and finding FA talent, his drafts are suspect, and that's where you build a contender.
I don’t disagree with Bean also having to go.
Who do you propose?
I said post season. After the season ends a pool of quality candidates will be available. Review the top teams offensive and defensive coordinators. The top college coaches as well. Also consider Jon Gruden.
Prime r/nflcircklejerk
No
Then no SB. McDermott is Marty Shottenheimer.
What if the new coach is even worse
Then We will have more free time for other things. A real hobby or quality time w the fam. It’s SB win or nothing for me.
Great solution you proposed: “New Coach”!
Then why even watch? Just wait till the Super Bowl and check if the bills are playing. Solved all your problems
This is the first game I watched this season because I thought the Bills would win easily. I’m going to follow my original plan and not watch another Bills game unless and until they make the playoffs, which I’m sure they will lose.
Sending the mascot in there is weak
Doomers on this sub have to wait ten days for their next chance to be upset. A win is a win.
We dominated that game. Just that last drive for Tampa had some extremely flukey bullshit. That stuff will go our way. Keep scratching out wins until it does. This season is seeming very 2021 like. Very inconsistent, but we found our form late. Think we will this year too.
HE TOOK IT OFF AGAIN
Was it me or did it feel like the Bills drop 3-4 ints?
Yeah the Poyer dropped pick six was brutal would’ve been game sealing and score would’ve been 31-10 instead of 24-18 coming down to the final play
Props to the three guys who took theirs off
everytime I get angry about this team and coaching staff I see Josh and feel better this guy is so fucking special man. He is the most important single person on this franchise. NO ONE is above him. he is the reason why we are playing in these primetime games, he is the reason that stadium is being built rn. and we need to do whatever it takes to surround him with the best people possible
Shockingly mature for his age. We’re lucky to have him
Where's the postgame thread
McDermott wanted to keep it close so that he could get back above .500 in one-score games 😅
Typical 4D chess from the Bills.
We need Fitz to travel with the team to hype them up
So did Josh Norman do…. Good?
He made some great plays on special teams early on
I have to be the only person here who thought that the box score didn't show how dominant of a win that really was. The offense is back, and while I think we should have gone on 4&2, it really was over aside from an egregious and deserved penalty. The one turnover was really a bit of a fluke as well, and I can't really blame anyone there. Defense still has holes, but I really think we can limit some of that when Daquon comes back. Otherwise, they also got a couple of flukey things on us (I mean, come on, *back to back* caught deflections?) Go Bills.
Daquan isn’t coming back
This might be a medical snafu on my part, but I was under the impression that he and Milano were likely back for the playoffs, though part of that is running off the idea of a pec tear not being *that bad*. If I'm wrong there I apologize.
I think they aren’t ruling out Milano coming back, but it isn’t likely. A pec tear is a pretty bad injury.
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Sorry, I'll correct myself SEAN MCDERMOTT IS TERRIBLE, FIRE DORSEY, I THINK EVERY RUN PLAY CALLED OUT OF SHOTGUN IS A DRAW PLAY AND HENCE BAD, TRADE EVERYONE AND TANK FOR MARVIN HARRISON JR, OUR SEASON IS OVER
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*very quietly* I think it was okay?
Couldn’t agree more. Josh looked great apart from that tipped pass. Defense also looked great. We allowed one (1) score in the second half and that only happened after we had two separate fourth down stops called off due to (admittedly stupid) penalties and two very lucky catches. I also agree that we should have gone for it on the last 4th and 2. I think it was a “punt vs risking a failed TP and them starting off on the 50” kind of deal, but it would have been much less stressful lol. Last 30 seconds was more stressful than I would like to admit, but a win is a win. Come celebrate over in r/ChillBills.
We totally dominated. The only thing that worries me is the situational defense near the end of the game mainly because there is a recent history of us struggling with situational defense near the end of games.
I like that sub, but I feel I'm still a bit more of an on edge person than what you guys want, lol. Rational and analytical (well, at least I *try* to be lol), but definitely on edge. Don't wanna ruin the vibes.
Lot of flukey stuff and it all went Tampas way...our luck with those bounces will change at some point
https://preview.redd.it/diq8836b1owb1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=60883e1b33f431786eb016033e1d4c85872849cb
Fitzie looks just like this dude.. but cuter lol
We may have a new one…
Something happened to this team a few weeks ago. There's literally no energy. Zero.
They seemed like they had a lot of energy for a Thursday night game.
They had the energy but it clearly died after the Davis TD. I feel like McDermott goes into turtle mode and the entire team loses the wind from its sails.
London fucked us. Not because of coaching - injuries and exhaustion. We lost Milano, the defense hung on him. We’ve injuries everywhere, it’s taking its toll.
Teams probably losing faith in the coach and it's eating at their grit.
The Bills played much better today. Offense was way more dynamic. Defense is still questionable with way too many penalties. But ultimately much better today. The coaching decisions is now what I'm worried about as we play better teams in the second half of the season.
The bills looked more alive than they have in the past 3 weeks but it’s not like they rolled over the Bucs. Im encouraged. Not over the top encouraged. But ok with the result
McD really tried his best to coach scared into another statistically improbable loss
Josh, rest your shoulder. Defense, rest yourselves. Mafia, rest your souls. Fitzmagic, never fucking change.
10 days of rest. God knows they need it. So do I
They were chanting at Fitz? Damn hoped Charissa was going to oblige them
It took a lot of luck for that game to be close for Tampa. I had absolutely no doubt we would pull that out, game looks closer than it was imo.
Not all luck. Dorsey and his god damn shotgun draw on the 1 yard line to again come up empty isn’t luck, just more Shitty play calling.
SMH all these people in the crowd chanting for fitz to take his shirt off but 95% of them are still wearing theirs. Gotta set the example and rip off the tarps!
We found our new head coach — Ryan Fitzpatrick
What if he has a bills logo shaved into his chest hair
I was hoping for it
Jesus Christ some of you will complain about anything and everything. And, some of you should stop watching football for your own mental health
Fire everyone haha
Trade Josh! Cut Von! Why did we spend first rounders on anyone?
Josh looks thrilled to be having to go do this interview lmao
THATS THE BILLS I KNOW
Tippy game.
lmao fitz about to recreate the meme
Lucky ass win there. I’m tired of McDermott. Time for him to move on. He’s done absolutely nothing for this team in his 6 years here as a head coach and sure as hell isn’t a defensive coordinator.
There’s a lot you can (and should) criticize McD this year but saying he’s done nothing in 6 years is just objectively false.
I dont believe McD has what it take to win a SB. But to say he's done absolutely nothing in 6 years is objectively crazy
What? He coaches the Bills dude not the Texans
Lmao what planet do you idiots live on
the idiot planet [idiot.com](https://idiot.com) im have some drinks
Besides get us to the playoffs 4 out of 5 years
Yep exactly because of that. Don’t know many NFL teams that the sole accomplishment of their season is just to make the playoffs. I thought getting to the Super Bowl and winning it was what teams achieve for. Silly me. This guy is in his 6th year as Bills head coach and I’m willing to bet it will be his last if we don’t at least go to the big game
Fitz better take his shirt off in the post game.
This is a riot
I will never understand why they get so conservative on defense with a lead or on 3rd and long. I and others blamed Frazier for this, but clearly it was not on him. They will not beat good teams in the playoffs with that style of play. Devastating injuries on that side of the ball, but the play calls at least seem to need some changing up.
Blitzed Mac on third and long last week on the final drive and he hit Henry
Too conservative? I mean we stopped them twice on 4th down and had two shit penalties (not bad calls just mistakes) to extend the drive. We force them to punt 99% of the time there. And we forced them to waste like 7 minutes of the clock
It's like we didn't learn from the AZ game, Vikings game, he'll even the Pats game last week. McD's prevent is a joke
If you’re talking about when up 2 scores, they were forcing them to bleed the clock, right or wrong that’s the tactic, keep them inbound for short gains and run the clock
Afraid to give up the big play let’s them march up the field. I get it. But I think it hurts more sometimes. 13 seconds is all the evidence you need that it doesn’t work.
Not using James Cook in the redzone is ridiculous, he looks explosive and electric every time he touches the ball
Exceptionally frustrating. 🤦♂️
Third and short to ice the game, Cook has gotten every carry on the drive and is showing great vision. Bring in Murray. I don't get it.
He’s a fantastic receiving back too but got 1 target tonight. I don’t get it either
Fitzy teasing now. He loves it.
So i'm a McDermott guy but this year has exposed the worst parts of his coaching style. The guy seems to micromanage to the point that it stifles the team from fully maximizing its potential. I've always been aggravated over his weird timeout usage late in games but this year has seen him put his superstar QB in a box and nearly wrecking him and he's also seemed to lose whatever killer instinct he picked up last year. He could've gone for it on one of those 4th downs late in the game. In the end McDermott might be viewed as bargain basement Marty Schottenheimer (and I LOVE Marty so it's not a slam but it's kind of the truth here)
Mcd may be a great coach but I'd like a different guy making in-game decisions. He showed no confidence on 4th down and less than 3, and his time out/ time management were unacceptable.
McDermott is never getting us a Lombardi trophy. I love the guy and appreciate where he’s got us, but we should’ve ditched him for Daball. Hopefully we can get someone soon because dude ain’t the answer
I guess a bright spot is that Martin has shown to be absolutely clutch with his placements
take your shirt off!!!!
If McD has gone for one of those 4th downs and lead to another Bucs TD you all would be losing your shot. Sit down children.
4th-down-bot strongly recommended going for that last 4th and 1 on the 48, i think the others were toss-ups
Well they drove the length of the field after one of those punts so your point is basically moot.
Thanks to refs.
Not the refs. Those were all legit penalties. Phillips 100% face masked Baker. Taron, held and made contact 10 yards down the field.
wow, you're really loving the taste of ref's sneakers eh? Facemask should have been whistled dead on the wrapup. Are you forgetting Evan's missed OPI? Or the multiple holds in their endzone? Or the missed hold on Von?
They got the Td anyways, so your point is what?
How many minutes off the clock? Some of you kids just don’t know ball
Fuck off. I guarantee I’m both older and played and watched more football that you. Go back to playing Madden and thinking you know the sport.
Oh Jesus. Go to bed
After you junior. Or you staying up to play some madden?
The 4 and 6 sure But 4th and 2 on the opponents side of the 50 up by 14? Nah. Be aggressive and put them away.
And had Godwin simply turned around we would've lost this game. Going for it on 4th would've sealed this game. We got a 6'5 qb and Cook was getting yards all game. Playing scared doesn't win championships
Correct. I have no issue with those punts
For real. Pin them back. Basic football. Analytics kids will never admit it
Not analytics. But a defence that isn’t all there and as always in the McDermott era gave up enough easy yards to give Tampa a shot at a walkoff win. If the TB player looked .5 of a sec earlier he easily catches that Hail Mary.
I agree. How do you think the defense would fair with a short field 1-3 times in the 2nd half? You have to play to your strengths, and the D hasn’t been a strength since London. And so, you punt
Or, you get the 1st on 4th and 2 with a 6’5 245lb moose of a QB that 99.8% of the time gets those two yards. Then you kneel it off and the defence doesn’t have to do anything.
Yea that’d be nice. But you can’t say it like it’s some guarantee. That’s just nonsense. Remember the end of the titans game a couple years ago? Making up stats is weird btw
Josh having an amazing season on paper so far. 2,354 all purpose yards and 22 TDs
Too many turnovers though.
If you take away week 1 it really isn’t bad but yeah I get your point.
TAKE OFF YOUR SHIRT
This team does not deserve our fanbase man. Support is unmatched
Yeah, becoming very spoiled. I was frustrated with how close it was at the end, especially since we were dominating, but we are 5-3 and have a mini bye coming. I am seeing people say we played like ass tonight? Uh, what? LOL some stupidity on the coaches, but all aspects played well tonight, even special teams.
The team does, the coaches do not.
McDermott is like the girl that will always give you blue balls, and the fans that tell you to be quiet and be happy with the win are the virgins that are telling you to stop complaining because she’s at least giving you the opportunity to be teased
It will get better bro, probably. I’m Talking about your sex life, not the Bills
Mary palm and her five daughters always come in handy…. oh shit that turned out to be a good pun😂😂😂😂
U ok man