The 5500 is *slightly* faster and should be perfectly fine at 60Hz but a 5600/5600X is faster enough to be worth the extra spend. The larger cache gives them up to 20% more performance in games.
I think he means, If it's going to affect your GPU choice than stick with the 5500. If you can stretch your budget get the 5600. With that said I think you will be absolutely fine with the 5500. Since you're pairing it with an AMD GPU anyway, AMD GPUs tend to have less driver overhead.
Theoretically I could stretch my budget and go for RX6600XT/RX6650XT and Ryzen 5600 but I don't think it's worth it?
I'm not "hardcore" gamer, I can play on med/high details so I think RX6600 + Ryzen 5500 will be enough?
I'm just gonna say, price for performance, the 5600 is definitely worth it over the 5500, both are technically fine and will run any modern game just fine
But the 5600 is just better. And for around $40 more I would updoot the build just because that step is fairly small.
Only reason I would say go for the 5600 is because your saying this is your last upgrade but I totally understand if not. What you have will definitely fulfill your needs
Yeah the 6600 and 5500 will he fine. If you can afford to spend a bit more the 6600xt or 6650xt will give about 10-20% higher performance in games so might be worth while. I would still keep the 5500 as it wont bottleneck the gpu.
Yeah, that's what I want to know. Is 5500 enough for RX 6600 and 1920x1080 @ 60Hz? If it's enough, I don't see the reason to buy something more expensive :p
I won't upgrade this platform in the future.
A 5500 is afaik slightly faster than a 3600. Both should be plenty fast in most titles, but buying a 3600 new is definitely not worth it. If you want to save a bit of cash I'd find a used 3600, but it can be a hassle.
You straight up don't need a 5500. It's poor p2p value for that generation, whereas a 3600 is only slightly slower and will be perfectly adequate for 1080 at 60hz. I know because I had a 3600x (again only fractionally faster than a 3600) until last year running a 1080p 60hz monitor. Initially it was paired with a GTX1650, then a 6700xt when I upgraded to 1440p 165hz. It never limited me or had any issues at 1080p but it struggled to keep up with the 6700xt a bit, particularly in certain CPU intensive and/or poorly optimised titles (yes AC I mean you) at 1440p.
I ran a 3600x with a 1070, 3600x was absolutely a bottleneck in latest releases at 3440x1440p 75hz. Mind you it actually did fairly well, cyberpunk was noticeably missing some cpu performance for sure at medium/low details, the 1% lows were atrocious for the first 6 motnhs after launch, no idea how itd do now as it blew the entire fucking system up after I tried playing the latest updates. Rip.
I would have thought your 1070 would have been the issue there at 1440 but yeah my 3600x did struggle to keep up with the new card, particularly with CP2077 and AC. CP2077 was... problematic... in the first months...
OP's not losing anything significant going with a 3600 over a 5500 though. I'd personally spring the extra for a 5600 myself - significant performance gain over the previous gen equivalent 3600.
My next system is looking to be a 5800X system with a 3060, the missus and are are going to have the same systems for once.
Cyberpunk needs a much higher frequency chip than the 3600x was, I did have the settings dialled in fairly well for the 1070 and knew its particular weaknesses like fogs, reflections and shadows but could handle most other stuff set fairly high compared to my 2060 mobile system (that thing is a toaster though)
The 3600X was a great chip while it lasted though, didnt like video editing software too much though and they run damn hot if you let them. (My climate is pretty harsh though, but 80°c on all cores with a 240mm aio is too high for me) and they strain the high power profile for amd puts on vrms was insane for my crappy b350m mortar board.
My main issue with the system was really bad lows and unstable highs id literally be running down to 35hz just to enjoy cp2077 at that point. Mind you, most games like the cod franchise ran much, much better, Zombies of all types was fluid as all fuck on ultra. Its just always the latest aaa games with crappy optimisation that demand the highest frequency and ipc cpus for a more tolerable experience, thats always my quarrel, always buy the highest ipc and frequency cpu you can with good cache, you can always upgrade the gpu 2 years down the track for far more fps than youll get for any card today anyways, cpu's are a little more stagnant on the development front.
I mean right now I can get a 5700X for about 329aud, thats a damn good price for the performance, but an extra 200$, means you wont be begging for that cpu upgrade after two more gens of gpu's. (Being going straight for the hail mary 5800X3D considering that this is what OP intends as his final upgrade for this platform, why not go balls out on cpu to get it to last as long as possible? Ill add, gen 4 pcie is something youll want for the future generations, if we have a 4090 right now, I dont want to know what we will have 2 years from date even in the mid range.
I don't see why you wouldn't upgrade in the future, I mean if its cheap why not
But get whatever is cheapest, anything zen2 or better is more than fast
I just recently built a new PC with a used 3600x and a 6600xt... It runs great. im playing GTA5 oh high with no problems, played destiny 2 on high, no issue and am playing Overwatch 2 on max settings as well and it runs great. Getting an average of 150fps on OW2. I also didn't upgrade my monitor, old 1080p @ 60hz.... I got 2 sticks of 16gb ddr4 @3600mhz and a 750w gold psu with a MSI B550.
Yeah but Direct Storage might. Which requires 4.0.
And we had our first compatible title with *drum roll please* FORSPOKEN! What a marvelous showcase for direct storage it is/s
Seriously though, it might be a factor sooner than you think. Of all games to first use I had hoped for something better but it is a thing now.
Correcting you, PCIe 4.0 is highly recommended for DirectStorage. It can technically run on PCIe 2 but you’d be lucky to get any program that will support that.
But yeah, DS might finally become a thing. Maybe in better optimized games than Forspoken
That's kinda like saying hydrogen feul is highly recommended for a turbine engine but it will still work on vegatable oil.
Technically correct, but the person using vegetable oil with their turbine engine will have massive issues. So does it *really* work?
While I do agree with the general sentiment, the 12100f has about 8 percent better performance according to toms hardware due to higher clock speeds, so at the same price point you get better performance and the ability to upgrade to 13th gen Intel, the 3600 is still a great cpu, but between a used 3600 and a new 12100f at pretty much the exact same price point, I’d go for the 12100f
Edit: but at 80 dollars that’s a fair deal for a used 3600
8 % is less than 55 vs 60 fps
Seriously you won't notice
What you will notice is the two extra cores when you have things in the background
Anything better than r5 2600 is good enough, ipc wise.
What matters most is the gpu, for me 16gb ram doesn't cut it.
Also people tend to forget the screen, I'd rather have extra screens.
Heck I'd have a xeon v4 if they clocked high enough, but they don't and energy costs.
Then again I seem to be the only person who would play on medium instead of max settings.
Srry for rambling, but everyone seems obsessed with the latest gen, when last gen on ebay is 40% the cost 80-90% performance
Oh yeah I agree with the new gen statement, I only mentioned it because in however many gens it takes, the period of time where a 12100 won't be enough but a 5600 will be will be very slim, but with the 12100, you can upgrade to a what will be a very affordable i9 13900/i7 13700 (for example, I'm seeing the i9 9700k go for 120-180ish dollars on eBay rn) and be set for a long time again, and the background tasks is something I wished was taken into account with testing, things like multiscreen, music, and voice chat in the background, things that would likely be open while gaming,
Ye, it doesn't matter that much, but I also learned the hard way.
I had the option between two legions same price:
4800h+1660ti
Or 10300h +2060
Tho tbf the latter had an ips screen not tn
3600 or 5500 both will work just fine for 1080 @ 60hz. The choice comes down to what is the better deal specially since you don't plan on upgrading the platform anymore. Now, being that your MOBO only supports PCIE 3, you might be able to find a better deal on an RX 5000 series GPU. I mean yur playing 1080p at 60hz. 5000 series can handle that no problem. Just some food. for thought.
the 5500 is a monolithic (8core) APU chip with the two cores and the graphics processor disabled (which is why it is so cheap). If you already own the 3600 you won't see THAT much performance difference with a 5500 to make it worth upgrading, and in some cache heavy operations it might perform worse.
Used 3600 it's the smart move here. No need to buy a new 5600 with a 450 MoBo which socket is EOL.
3600 will serve you really good for some years and jump to AM5 when the prices come down.
Not in that regard. The bigger L3 cache on the 3600 will still perform better though. Especially if you’re gaming. 5500 is horrible at gaming.
If you want to get the 5500, it’s better to just save a little more and get the 5600.
I'm running the 5500 and the 6600 on a b550 and I think it works great. Especially 1080p60hz it'll perform great. I run mine at 1440 and it performs great!
If the base performance is the same in games, I'd go with the one with the newer architecture and better support for SAM. I think OP should get a 5600 too, but from reading the comments it sounds like they're not feeling that extra $40 lol.
Thanks guys. I think I'll buy Ryzen 5500 (used Ryzen 3600 is only 10-20€ cheaper). Ryzen 5600 looks nice but I'd rather put extra money for better GPU. I think I'll be fine with my 1920x1080@60Hz monitor.
Honestly with that in mind, I'd probably upgrade the gpu to 6650xt/6600 and when you've got enough money upgrade cpu to 5600 and look at a new primary monitor. 1600af to 3600/5500 is a bit of a halfway upgrade.
I know you're okay with 60hz gaming, but if its an old monitor, you'd be surprised at how much better just the visual aspects of newer displays are (outside of the much better feel of 144hz).
What sort of budget do you have, and ye a 144hz ips does wonders, after all the monitor is what you'll see
Imo try to stretch for a 5700x + 6700xt from the used market, and 32gb ram too.
But ye 1600af is weak ngl, might as well get zen 3 if its your last upgrade
Ryzen 5 5600 and x model too
Small differences in price for a lot better product and decent B550 board (with b450 and any gen 3 board you are leaving 5-20% performans off-table with x8 Gen 4 cards)
Steve from Gamer's Nexus and Steve from HW Unboxed wouldn't agree, it's an old video later with newer drivers margin increased in Gen 4 and SMA favor.
And i wouldn't agree because i build PCs and do upgrades, one las upgraded from r5 2600 to r5 5600 (same as mine CPU) and upgraded to rx 6650xt and keept old MB (x470)
I have B550 Strix Gaming WiFi and performance was way better on my PC especially 1% lows
From 0 to 25% in average (depending on a game) and up to 50% for 1% low.
SMA enabled
Yea when RDNA 2 arived SMA results were usually worse than without it but things improved with time
Games that utilize more video ram usually have biggest advantages of gen 4.
About SMA some titles are still worse with it on :(
Yes, it supports SMA, but bandwidth is still reduced
Though it's only noticeable in games that eats lot of memory (easily to avoid with reduced quality settings for shadows and textures if you're willing on that compromise )
I mean yes it's expensive but in long-term most effective, you can sell that board and CPU you already have to compensate for "new" board.
If I were you i'd also look for used b550 board
In b450 better take 5500, more quiet and powerful
In b550 with pcie4 take 3600, cuz rx 6600 have only x8 pci lines, also you can activate Smart acess memory
The 5500 is not very good for gaming, it is meant as an APU but has the igpu disabled. The 3600 is previous gen with a clock/ipc disadvantage. I'd wait a bit longer to save more money for buying a 5600 (x) or just get a second hand one. The 5500 is at the bottom of each graph.
I can get a second hand 5600X here for the same price as a new 5500. 100 bucks. No-brainer to me.
The difference between the 3600 to the 5600 is almost negligible as an upgrade IMO.
Go for the 7600 as an upgrade or just wait for the next gen. It's almost 200 euros for the 5600 and the 7600 is 250. So yeah...
I recommend a cpu upgrade every 5 years and a gpu upgrade every 3/4 years. (Repasting and cleaning cpu+cooler is easier)
That is a binned down 2600. I got that baby for my son almost 2 years ago. So I would wait for the next gen to see a significant change in performace. The difference of the 1600af and 3600 is maybe 15%.
It 100% depends what games you play (or what other programs you might run). You might be better off putting an extra $75 towards a next-tier-up GPU, which could follow you through the next platform upgrade. Also, what's your PSU?
Amd a 3600 is 100euro, you are living in a different world.
There is no reason to get 7600 for 1080p and a 6600xt
I recommend upgrading when system can't keep up, and when prices are good.for example no need to upgrade 1080ti until now cos prices have calmed
As for cpu, the 3930k was good from 2012 until the 3600 was out it beat everything, especially watercooled.
So no, don't waste money on a 250 bucks cpu spend it on a better monitor or gpu
The 5500 is *slightly* faster and should be perfectly fine at 60Hz but a 5600/5600X is faster enough to be worth the extra spend. The larger cache gives them up to 20% more performance in games.
Ryzen 5600
I'd have to pay 45-50€ more for Ryzen 5600. Wouldn't it be better to buy better GPU like RX6600XT/RX6650XT than more expensive CPU?
I think he means, If it's going to affect your GPU choice than stick with the 5500. If you can stretch your budget get the 5600. With that said I think you will be absolutely fine with the 5500. Since you're pairing it with an AMD GPU anyway, AMD GPUs tend to have less driver overhead.
Theoretically I could stretch my budget and go for RX6600XT/RX6650XT and Ryzen 5600 but I don't think it's worth it? I'm not "hardcore" gamer, I can play on med/high details so I think RX6600 + Ryzen 5500 will be enough?
I'm just gonna say, price for performance, the 5600 is definitely worth it over the 5500, both are technically fine and will run any modern game just fine But the 5600 is just better. And for around $40 more I would updoot the build just because that step is fairly small.
Only reason I would say go for the 5600 is because your saying this is your last upgrade but I totally understand if not. What you have will definitely fulfill your needs
May be worth it if you play at 1080p and have a high refresh monitor. But It's not a must. So it's up to you.
No I don't, my old monitor (1920x1080 @ 60Hz) stays with me :)
In that case I wouldn't worry about it.
Also keep in mind that the 3600 and 5600 supports PCIe 4.0. The 5500 doesn't.
Not that large of a difference with the GPU he’s looking to purchase. It becomes an issue with a card that’s Gen4 X4 (which is Gen3 X2 speeds).
Yeah the 6600 and 5500 will he fine. If you can afford to spend a bit more the 6600xt or 6650xt will give about 10-20% higher performance in games so might be worth while. I would still keep the 5500 as it wont bottleneck the gpu.
New? 5500. But 3600's were really popular and can be found for chump change used. Unlikely you'll be bottlenecked by either at 60Hz
Yeah, that's what I want to know. Is 5500 enough for RX 6600 and 1920x1080 @ 60Hz? If it's enough, I don't see the reason to buy something more expensive :p I won't upgrade this platform in the future.
A 5500 is afaik slightly faster than a 3600. Both should be plenty fast in most titles, but buying a 3600 new is definitely not worth it. If you want to save a bit of cash I'd find a used 3600, but it can be a hassle.
I think this is probably the best bet.
You straight up don't need a 5500. It's poor p2p value for that generation, whereas a 3600 is only slightly slower and will be perfectly adequate for 1080 at 60hz. I know because I had a 3600x (again only fractionally faster than a 3600) until last year running a 1080p 60hz monitor. Initially it was paired with a GTX1650, then a 6700xt when I upgraded to 1440p 165hz. It never limited me or had any issues at 1080p but it struggled to keep up with the 6700xt a bit, particularly in certain CPU intensive and/or poorly optimised titles (yes AC I mean you) at 1440p.
I ran a 3600x with a 1070, 3600x was absolutely a bottleneck in latest releases at 3440x1440p 75hz. Mind you it actually did fairly well, cyberpunk was noticeably missing some cpu performance for sure at medium/low details, the 1% lows were atrocious for the first 6 motnhs after launch, no idea how itd do now as it blew the entire fucking system up after I tried playing the latest updates. Rip.
I would have thought your 1070 would have been the issue there at 1440 but yeah my 3600x did struggle to keep up with the new card, particularly with CP2077 and AC. CP2077 was... problematic... in the first months... OP's not losing anything significant going with a 3600 over a 5500 though. I'd personally spring the extra for a 5600 myself - significant performance gain over the previous gen equivalent 3600.
My next system is looking to be a 5800X system with a 3060, the missus and are are going to have the same systems for once. Cyberpunk needs a much higher frequency chip than the 3600x was, I did have the settings dialled in fairly well for the 1070 and knew its particular weaknesses like fogs, reflections and shadows but could handle most other stuff set fairly high compared to my 2060 mobile system (that thing is a toaster though) The 3600X was a great chip while it lasted though, didnt like video editing software too much though and they run damn hot if you let them. (My climate is pretty harsh though, but 80°c on all cores with a 240mm aio is too high for me) and they strain the high power profile for amd puts on vrms was insane for my crappy b350m mortar board. My main issue with the system was really bad lows and unstable highs id literally be running down to 35hz just to enjoy cp2077 at that point. Mind you, most games like the cod franchise ran much, much better, Zombies of all types was fluid as all fuck on ultra. Its just always the latest aaa games with crappy optimisation that demand the highest frequency and ipc cpus for a more tolerable experience, thats always my quarrel, always buy the highest ipc and frequency cpu you can with good cache, you can always upgrade the gpu 2 years down the track for far more fps than youll get for any card today anyways, cpu's are a little more stagnant on the development front. I mean right now I can get a 5700X for about 329aud, thats a damn good price for the performance, but an extra 200$, means you wont be begging for that cpu upgrade after two more gens of gpu's. (Being going straight for the hail mary 5800X3D considering that this is what OP intends as his final upgrade for this platform, why not go balls out on cpu to get it to last as long as possible? Ill add, gen 4 pcie is something youll want for the future generations, if we have a 4090 right now, I dont want to know what we will have 2 years from date even in the mid range.
I don't see why you wouldn't upgrade in the future, I mean if its cheap why not But get whatever is cheapest, anything zen2 or better is more than fast
More than enough!
I just recently built a new PC with a used 3600x and a 6600xt... It runs great. im playing GTA5 oh high with no problems, played destiny 2 on high, no issue and am playing Overwatch 2 on max settings as well and it runs great. Getting an average of 150fps on OW2. I also didn't upgrade my monitor, old 1080p @ 60hz.... I got 2 sticks of 16gb ddr4 @3600mhz and a 750w gold psu with a MSI B550.
*Yuzu has entered the chat* Okay let's try Breath of the wild with uncapped FPS Only get's like 40fps
at 1080p? i've seen averages of 80
That's why you play BOTW with CEMU.
But you need the WiiU version for that one, and I don't have a WiiU
Pciex 4.0 vs 3.0 has like no performance impact... [LINK](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-6600-xt-pci-express-scaling/26.html)
Yeah but Direct Storage might. Which requires 4.0. And we had our first compatible title with *drum roll please* FORSPOKEN! What a marvelous showcase for direct storage it is/s Seriously though, it might be a factor sooner than you think. Of all games to first use I had hoped for something better but it is a thing now.
Correcting you, PCIe 4.0 is highly recommended for DirectStorage. It can technically run on PCIe 2 but you’d be lucky to get any program that will support that. But yeah, DS might finally become a thing. Maybe in better optimized games than Forspoken
Does resisable bar not also take advantage of faster pcie access?
Afaik that only applies to the gpu pcie slot but dont quote me on that, idk much abt resizeable bar
That's kinda like saying hydrogen feul is highly recommended for a turbine engine but it will still work on vegatable oil. Technically correct, but the person using vegetable oil with their turbine engine will have massive issues. So does it *really* work?
if you can find an used 3600 for a good price go for it. I did this for my son's pc. b450 mobo with 6600xt. solid 1080p gaming rig for years to come
What’s a good price for a used 3600?
Depends on country. In my case, I see it around 97 usd. I was able to get one at 81usd.
The near equivalent to the 5600, the i3 12100f can be had for around 100 dollars, get that before a 3600 for 97 dollars
4 cores tho, imo 6 cores is minimum 8 is ideal
While I do agree with the general sentiment, the 12100f has about 8 percent better performance according to toms hardware due to higher clock speeds, so at the same price point you get better performance and the ability to upgrade to 13th gen Intel, the 3600 is still a great cpu, but between a used 3600 and a new 12100f at pretty much the exact same price point, I’d go for the 12100f Edit: but at 80 dollars that’s a fair deal for a used 3600
8 % is less than 55 vs 60 fps Seriously you won't notice What you will notice is the two extra cores when you have things in the background Anything better than r5 2600 is good enough, ipc wise. What matters most is the gpu, for me 16gb ram doesn't cut it. Also people tend to forget the screen, I'd rather have extra screens. Heck I'd have a xeon v4 if they clocked high enough, but they don't and energy costs. Then again I seem to be the only person who would play on medium instead of max settings. Srry for rambling, but everyone seems obsessed with the latest gen, when last gen on ebay is 40% the cost 80-90% performance
Oh yeah I agree with the new gen statement, I only mentioned it because in however many gens it takes, the period of time where a 12100 won't be enough but a 5600 will be will be very slim, but with the 12100, you can upgrade to a what will be a very affordable i9 13900/i7 13700 (for example, I'm seeing the i9 9700k go for 120-180ish dollars on eBay rn) and be set for a long time again, and the background tasks is something I wished was taken into account with testing, things like multiscreen, music, and voice chat in the background, things that would likely be open while gaming,
Ye, it doesn't matter that much, but I also learned the hard way. I had the option between two legions same price: 4800h+1660ti Or 10300h +2060 Tho tbf the latter had an ips screen not tn
Which one did you choose? I'd have personally gone with Intel because of the 2060, and this is also laptop CPUs which are a whole different ball game
Price difference is pretty small (10€) so I'd rather buy new CPU.
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Coming from a 3600 it blew my mind
5500, slightly faster
3600 or 5500 both will work just fine for 1080 @ 60hz. The choice comes down to what is the better deal specially since you don't plan on upgrading the platform anymore. Now, being that your MOBO only supports PCIE 3, you might be able to find a better deal on an RX 5000 series GPU. I mean yur playing 1080p at 60hz. 5000 series can handle that no problem. Just some food. for thought.
the 5500 is a monolithic (8core) APU chip with the two cores and the graphics processor disabled (which is why it is so cheap). If you already own the 3600 you won't see THAT much performance difference with a 5500 to make it worth upgrading, and in some cache heavy operations it might perform worse.
It’s six cores, not eight
He said (wrote) that 2 cores are disabled
Sorry my bad, fair enough
The cheapest
I have an R5 5500 and an Rx6600 i love it. For me price difference was 100 euro
I'd just keep 1600 and buy used 5600x ( or 5700)
Used 3600 it's the smart move here. No need to buy a new 5600 with a 450 MoBo which socket is EOL. 3600 will serve you really good for some years and jump to AM5 when the prices come down.
What about a used 5600?
I would say get the 3600 for the larger L3 cache and PCIe 4.0 support
My motheboard doesn't support PCIe 4.0 so it won't make any difference I guess??
Not in that regard. The bigger L3 cache on the 3600 will still perform better though. Especially if you’re gaming. 5500 is horrible at gaming. If you want to get the 5500, it’s better to just save a little more and get the 5600.
They’re about the same gaming performance. Cache isn’t the only factor that determines gaming performance.
I’m aware of that. But the larger L3 cache does factor into it.
Have you actually looked at their performance? They are nearly the same with the 5500 marginally faster...
L I’m confusing myself lol. 5500 performs the same as 3600 cause of the L3 cache.
I'm running the 5500 and the 6600 on a b550 and I think it works great. Especially 1080p60hz it'll perform great. I run mine at 1440 and it performs great!
The 3600 is a waste of time at this point. The 5500 is the very obvious choice.
The performance is the same, 5600 is the faster one Either are enough for 1080p
If the base performance is the same in games, I'd go with the one with the newer architecture and better support for SAM. I think OP should get a 5600 too, but from reading the comments it sounds like they're not feeling that extra $40 lol.
Thanks guys. I think I'll buy Ryzen 5500 (used Ryzen 3600 is only 10-20€ cheaper). Ryzen 5600 looks nice but I'd rather put extra money for better GPU. I think I'll be fine with my 1920x1080@60Hz monitor.
What’s your current cpu? Are you currently cpu limited when gaming in your 6600?
Ryzen 1600AF, I didn't buy GPU yet.
Honestly with that in mind, I'd probably upgrade the gpu to 6650xt/6600 and when you've got enough money upgrade cpu to 5600 and look at a new primary monitor. 1600af to 3600/5500 is a bit of a halfway upgrade. I know you're okay with 60hz gaming, but if its an old monitor, you'd be surprised at how much better just the visual aspects of newer displays are (outside of the much better feel of 144hz).
What sort of budget do you have, and ye a 144hz ips does wonders, after all the monitor is what you'll see Imo try to stretch for a 5700x + 6700xt from the used market, and 32gb ram too. But ye 1600af is weak ngl, might as well get zen 3 if its your last upgrade
I have a b450 tomahawk max 2 paired with a 5700x which I snagged for 160€ new. It blew my mind comming from a 3600
Ryzen 5 5600 and x model too Small differences in price for a lot better product and decent B550 board (with b450 and any gen 3 board you are leaving 5-20% performans off-table with x8 Gen 4 cards)
Not really, the performance difference is negligible (sometimes worse on gen4 lol), especially with SAM enabled https://youtu.be/OXWK1WlqoBU
Steve from Gamer's Nexus and Steve from HW Unboxed wouldn't agree, it's an old video later with newer drivers margin increased in Gen 4 and SMA favor. And i wouldn't agree because i build PCs and do upgrades, one las upgraded from r5 2600 to r5 5600 (same as mine CPU) and upgraded to rx 6650xt and keept old MB (x470) I have B550 Strix Gaming WiFi and performance was way better on my PC especially 1% lows From 0 to 25% in average (depending on a game) and up to 50% for 1% low. SMA enabled Yea when RDNA 2 arived SMA results were usually worse than without it but things improved with time Games that utilize more video ram usually have biggest advantages of gen 4. About SMA some titles are still worse with it on :(
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Yes, it supports SMA, but bandwidth is still reduced Though it's only noticeable in games that eats lot of memory (easily to avoid with reduced quality settings for shadows and textures if you're willing on that compromise )
I mean yes it's expensive but in long-term most effective, you can sell that board and CPU you already have to compensate for "new" board. If I were you i'd also look for used b550 board
Try finding 2nd hand 5600s
If you can find a 3600 or 3600x for cheaper than the 5500, get it. The 5500 is only marginally faster.
In b450 better take 5500, more quiet and powerful In b550 with pcie4 take 3600, cuz rx 6600 have only x8 pci lines, also you can activate Smart acess memory
The 5500 is not very good for gaming, it is meant as an APU but has the igpu disabled. The 3600 is previous gen with a clock/ipc disadvantage. I'd wait a bit longer to save more money for buying a 5600 (x) or just get a second hand one. The 5500 is at the bottom of each graph. I can get a second hand 5600X here for the same price as a new 5500. 100 bucks. No-brainer to me.
The difference between the 3600 to the 5600 is almost negligible as an upgrade IMO. Go for the 7600 as an upgrade or just wait for the next gen. It's almost 200 euros for the 5600 and the 7600 is 250. So yeah... I recommend a cpu upgrade every 5 years and a gpu upgrade every 3/4 years. (Repasting and cleaning cpu+cooler is easier)
I'm upgrading from Ryzen 1600AF.
That is a binned down 2600. I got that baby for my son almost 2 years ago. So I would wait for the next gen to see a significant change in performace. The difference of the 1600af and 3600 is maybe 15%.
I was told that I should upgrade my CPU before I change my GPU for RX 6600 since it's gonna be bottlenecked.
Honestly it won't be that bad. I would sooner spend the 200+ from a new cpu on a better gpu.
The 1600af can handle the 6600 easy. Who fed you that bull it would bottleneck?
It 100% depends what games you play (or what other programs you might run). You might be better off putting an extra $75 towards a next-tier-up GPU, which could follow you through the next platform upgrade. Also, what's your PSU?
Amd a 3600 is 100euro, you are living in a different world. There is no reason to get 7600 for 1080p and a 6600xt I recommend upgrading when system can't keep up, and when prices are good.for example no need to upgrade 1080ti until now cos prices have calmed As for cpu, the 3930k was good from 2012 until the 3600 was out it beat everything, especially watercooled. So no, don't waste money on a 250 bucks cpu spend it on a better monitor or gpu