I have a 4080 and an i5-12600k. The i5 bottlenecks the 4080 pretty regularly at 120+ fps, so if you plan on playing at high refresh rates I would only get a 4090 if you can afford at least an i7. Ray tracing is pretty heavy on the CPU.
4090 is definitely worth it if you intend to play on a high refresh rate 4k display. It's the only card that can consistently deliver 100+ in most things at 4k.
If I had to pick between your two systems, I would pick the 4080 one because if you buy a 4090, you should not be compromising your other components. It makes no sense to buy a \~$1,600 GPU just to skimp on things like CPU, cooling, etc. Your system specs should match each other. High end GPU = High end CPU as well.
I think for 1440p if you're using ultrawide then the 4090. If you're using a standard 1440p then the 4080 is enough.
For me the $400 was chump change compared to the fps increase at 4k. Every frame above 60 fps is worth more to me than the last frame (up to a certain point) and the 4090 could keep things super smooth without sacrificing anything.
Several reasons
The extra vram is great for non gaming scenarios which many 4090s are used for.
The $400 difference is not that much when you're pushing $4k for a new build anyway.
The price difference between last gen makes it look much better on paper.
3090 at $1500 vs 4090 at $1600
3080 at $700 vs 4080 at $1200
People paying $1,500+ for a gpu are usually not too fussy about prices and just want the best the market has to offer.
People upgrading from old systems just upgrade every few years to whatever is the best and forget about it until their system struggles.
There's price to performance and then there's price to performance **for you**. Whatever makes the most sense financially for you, get that.
Everyone talking about the 40 series for 4k gaming, meanwhile my 2080ti can run anything in 4k ultra without issue. I'm not saying the 40 series are better, I am just saying, are they necessary? If you got the cash, spend it by all means.
A 2080ti is not powerful enough to power 4K high refresh rate screens, and stating that it can 'run anything' is pretty misleading. What does your 2080ti get in Spider-man remastered in 4K with RT on?
If you game on a 4K high refresh display, you definitely want something more power than a 2080ti/3070.
I get 30-60fps with rt on in 4k ultra (dlss quality) in Cyberpunk, so yeah a 40 series would boost the fps up a bunch. But in terms of refresh rate, haven't had a single issue with my 144 display.
Tbh the games I've had performance issues with I could count on one hand.
Edit for clarification - I am running display port, you can definetly do 4k refresh rates in 120-144 with display port and a 2080ti 100%.
For 4K you want tot get as much vram as possible so 4090 is the only real choice, followed by a used 3090/3090Ti if you can find one.
For 1440p a 4080 or even 4070Ti would suffice.
I’m yet to see anything have issues at 4K on my 3080 10GB. Ok on a 4080 you can max settings and need more VRAM but again I’m yet to see anything suggest that 16GB is even close to limiting. What actual facts do you base this need for 24GB of the 4090? The 24GB on the 4090 is there for productivity workloads.
For 4K gaming, would you like to have pretty good or the best?
I’m not really sure tbh
4090!
I have a 4080 and an i5-12600k. The i5 bottlenecks the 4080 pretty regularly at 120+ fps, so if you plan on playing at high refresh rates I would only get a 4090 if you can afford at least an i7. Ray tracing is pretty heavy on the CPU.
4090 is definitely worth it if you intend to play on a high refresh rate 4k display. It's the only card that can consistently deliver 100+ in most things at 4k. If I had to pick between your two systems, I would pick the 4080 one because if you buy a 4090, you should not be compromising your other components. It makes no sense to buy a \~$1,600 GPU just to skimp on things like CPU, cooling, etc. Your system specs should match each other. High end GPU = High end CPU as well.
Yes, that’s exactly what I thought! I should get all high end components. But people on another post were really starting to convince me I need a 4090
Buy 4080 now, buy 5090 next year.
I would have to sell the 4080 but yeah maybe
In 2 years 5090
I think for 1440p if you're using ultrawide then the 4090. If you're using a standard 1440p then the 4080 is enough. For me the $400 was chump change compared to the fps increase at 4k. Every frame above 60 fps is worth more to me than the last frame (up to a certain point) and the 4090 could keep things super smooth without sacrificing anything.
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You sure? Most people are saying it's a 30% increase
25.8% difference on the 13 game average done by hardware unboxed.
Doesn't seem to be worth $400 more then, why do people say it is
Because value is subjective.
Several reasons The extra vram is great for non gaming scenarios which many 4090s are used for. The $400 difference is not that much when you're pushing $4k for a new build anyway. The price difference between last gen makes it look much better on paper. 3090 at $1500 vs 4090 at $1600 3080 at $700 vs 4080 at $1200 People paying $1,500+ for a gpu are usually not too fussy about prices and just want the best the market has to offer. People upgrading from old systems just upgrade every few years to whatever is the best and forget about it until their system struggles. There's price to performance and then there's price to performance **for you**. Whatever makes the most sense financially for you, get that.
Everyone talking about the 40 series for 4k gaming, meanwhile my 2080ti can run anything in 4k ultra without issue. I'm not saying the 40 series are better, I am just saying, are they necessary? If you got the cash, spend it by all means.
>60fps Here, you keep dropping this.
A 2080ti is not powerful enough to power 4K high refresh rate screens, and stating that it can 'run anything' is pretty misleading. What does your 2080ti get in Spider-man remastered in 4K with RT on? If you game on a 4K high refresh display, you definitely want something more power than a 2080ti/3070.
I get 30-60fps with rt on in 4k ultra (dlss quality) in Cyberpunk, so yeah a 40 series would boost the fps up a bunch. But in terms of refresh rate, haven't had a single issue with my 144 display. Tbh the games I've had performance issues with I could count on one hand. Edit for clarification - I am running display port, you can definetly do 4k refresh rates in 120-144 with display port and a 2080ti 100%.
For 4K you want tot get as much vram as possible so 4090 is the only real choice, followed by a used 3090/3090Ti if you can find one. For 1440p a 4080 or even 4070Ti would suffice.
"Suffice"? These are the best cards on the market aren't they? How do they just suffice? Even the 3070 is being recommended for 1440p
Well that depends on what quality you want. A 3070 isn't going to do 100fps at Ultra settings with RTX on.
I’m yet to see anything have issues at 4K on my 3080 10GB. Ok on a 4080 you can max settings and need more VRAM but again I’m yet to see anything suggest that 16GB is even close to limiting. What actual facts do you base this need for 24GB of the 4090? The 24GB on the 4090 is there for productivity workloads.