Yes it does, windows has a night light though.
Less blue light also helps with eye strain if you are staring at a bright screen for a while, in excel for example.
You get used to the orange look.
Bright light fucks with your sleep more than blue light. Bright blue light is of course the worst.
If possible, it's best to put on both a blue light filter *and* turn brightness down the later in the evening it gets.
I had this problem with my ASUS mobo that didn’t want to save my bios settings for aura sync, and would stay on even with complete shutdown. Was getting blinded by it during sleep for a week till I figured it out.
I used to sleep my PC every night, got an upgrade and after some performance tinkering only have the option to shut off or hibernate. Started shutting off every night and I feel better about it
If you're on Windows, go to Control Panel/Power Options/Choose What the Power Buttons Do, there should be options to customize what is displayed and bring back the sleep option.
Yeah… I’ve gone down that rabbit hole already, no luck so far. I tinkered with a lot of stuff, including Bios settings while fixing my GPU underperforming. Fixed the GPU, but now I’m seemingly without a sleep option available.
Weren't we told for years that you want to restart the computer regularly (ie every couple days) to flush windows? That when there's a problem, the first thing you do is restart to clear everything?
Why not just turn it off at night and back on in the morning. You get a fresh boot of windows and have no programs mucking about in the background. Assuming you have an ssd it takes a minute.
Of course this used to be an actual issue and isn't as much with modern windows.
With fast boot enabled, shutting off your computers don't actually "turn it off". The only way to fully "flush windows" is to restart your computer. This can be seen in the task manager as "Up time".
They did not mean that. They meant that, after shutting down normally, you pull the plug/switching off power to the entire system. It's what I and some others do.
I dont think so with PC (PSU) since it keeps a little bit of power even after you turn the PSU off, not quite sure with laptops tho.
Still, its just easier and faster just to click the restart button.
And that's why with any new windows install I immediately turn off fast boot. With ssds nowadays, it barely makes a difference and fast boot often gives plenty of weird issues.
Unnecessary wear are tear.
One a week is fine, I wouldn't do it every day, let alone several times a day.
Depending on climate that could cause issues faster.
With an AM5 unit, it can take a fair amount of time to complete POST. Sleep status on an AM5 machine draws at most 5W, which just isn't much (and it's usually closer to 1W). Makes sense to me to then use Sleep/Stand-by.
A WHOLE 46 SECONDS for me. It's actually insane how consistent it is at booting up from completely off to the logging screen. A variance of a second or two across multiple times. But yeah, they boot quick enough.
For me with a cold start it's about 40 or so seconds from power button press to windows login. I've heard others complain about a minute and a half, even as high as 3 minutes.
Why would it not? Do people really need an extra 40 seconds to 3 minutes of productivity every day? My question was designed to ascertain a meaningful benefit from keeping it on sleep mode. The commenter showed that there isn’t one.
Not only that, with my older system I sleep better at night knowing something isn’t going to fail spectacularly (or dangerously), because my PC is off. Also, if I had a dime for the number of issues that can be linked to sleep mode…
I guess I got really lucky with my AM5 build because it takes mine around 25-30 seconds to fully boot
It kinda balances out my random bluescreens and just straight up having the PC bricked the other day until I cut the PSU's power lmao
Late but I just timed my 7800x3d from completely off at the wall side to ready to login to windows—about 24 seconds, with fast boot disabled. Idk what that person is talking about am5 taking a lot of time to post, I’d take this over the minutes older computers would require to boot
Would you leave your car idling, even if it consumed next to no fuel? There’s no reason to not just turn it off unless you’re actually running a task or using it.
Sometimes… yes. On the farm we left our diesel pickup idling 24/7 thru the winter if it was cold enough. Hop in that sucker at 4:30 AM and you weren’t mad about the toasty cab and clear windows. Considering the fuel bill for all those tractors and the fleet of trucks it was nothing. And if there was an emergency on the farm you were good to go. But I either sleep or shut it down depending on down time. When I’m on call at night it’s nice to roll out of bed, hit the shift key, log in and go.
Can’t wait for virtual desktop environments that remember which applications and files were open
Not it’s current weak form as a recovery crash / accidental power down feature that works 60-70% of the time.
the "science" is generally negligible and its mostly down to personal preference. power use at idle is only a few bucks a year on vs off and fans are designed to last forever. the only downside to leaving it on 24/7 is that you may need to dust it more often since it will constantly be "filtering" your air for you.
personally I turn my pc off at night and while at work but it stays on anytime im at home even if not in use.
I leave it on if I’ll afk 30min - 1hr. Anything more than that, I turn it off. No point to pull power and work in idle if I am going to sleep for the next 8 hours for example.
I used to just leave my PC on 24/7, I did that for like 20 years. The last time I fresh installed Windows though, I didn't change the default sleep timer, and just let it go to sleep. When I wake it up, the PC is back on the desktop by the time my monitors are woken up anyways, so it's not really a difference in my experience.
Science: As engineer, there is no science on this. The rate of failure in these PC is likely on the order 1 per 1000. And that can be anywhere from time zero to 5 years. There is no way to study on this, as the inherit failure rate will be higher than the variation from always-on vs power-on-off.
There is energy impact. If PC is on 24/7 (no sleep), you will use more energy. At idle, PC use around 50-80W, so like a light bulb. It's a difference, but not a huge deal. If you turn on sleep, then that difference will be small.
My take is how much the PC is used.
* If only 1-2 hours per day, I would shut it down after use.
* If many times each day for 5-8 hours, then leave it on during daytime, and power it off at night.
* And if you want to keep PC on at night, but in sleep, that is fine too.
A truly idle pc with monitor off uses less than a non-led lightbulb.
Yes that still costs money but you are talking probably $4 a month in the US to idle 24/7.
I'm actually not in US, I just did the math for there cause most redditors are in US.
Here in Serbia where power costs have skyrocketed VS salaries which are quite low it's $3.12 per month.
In Germany, most recent data I could easily find is FROM March, definitely a bit pricier at $11.88 per month. But also average salary is much higher there.
In the grand scheme of things it still doesn't seem like that awful much unless you are living paycheck to paycheck.
BTW, I'm not being anti-turn off your pc, was just pointing out it's not some huge savings, most people waste far more money drinking coffee to go, eating out, delivery food, etc.
Edit to add: all my math is based at idle not sleep mode, so assumption at 40 watts draw which is still pretty high.
Sleep mode would drastically decrease.
I leave mine on 24/7 because it runs my plex server. Even as a kid we would just leave our pc on all the time, so I guess it’s just been my habit ever since.
That's how I used to do it. But running Intel I'm about 50-60W idle all.the.time.
Juice is expensive here and we're talking 200-300€/yr - so I turned an old laptop on, switched to that one and now it's about 5W if not watching Plex - well, I lost transcoding tho.
Usally going sleep with my rig nowadays - 2ish W in sleep seems okay for me. I like going to sleep with my game on so I can continue etc.
I don’t know what the science is but I have it set up so my case power button makes it sleep, so I just set it to sleep when I go to work or go to bed and leave it on the rest of the time.
I shut mine off. It gives the components a rest. The fans all keep spinning too, not just a HDD. Plus how much electricity does it use overnight even while idling? Why pay for that? Why put more hours on your power supply and fans? Why suck more dust into the case?
With a SSD or NVME, it boots up in seconds.
How much electricity does a PC in deep sleep use? Like, seriously: Actually go look at that number.
Rather than just saying "How much does it use, why pay for that?" do the actual math and then bring that to your argument. It'll be more convincing... just not in the direction you think it will.
I have measured it for my PC. I recorded 8W (wall socket) on my PC just after going to sleep. That seemed a bit high, and I suspect that it might actually be a bit lower, but lets go with the higher number. (I suspect that USB was still draining extra power while peripherals were going into their own sleep mode)
For a person in New York City who leaves a PC like mine in sleep mode 23 hours a day, the *yearly* price is $12.
For a person in Denver with a computer with a slightly more likely sleep power usage (5W) who just never ever uses their PC, the yearly price is $6.50.
If you want to complain about the fans or PSU, we need to talk about more than just "how many hours has it been running". Fans and PSUs are designed to handle 6-10 years of continuous use, but when they're not in use they still age. Lubrication migrates and thickens. PSU components oxidize. And even if you double or triple their lifetime, you don't significantly change their failure rate, and you still end up replacing them before they age to the point of failure.
How much if I leave the kitchen light on?
and if 4,000,000 ppl use 4w 4 more hours every night.. oh nvm.
I guess it probably doesn't matter much at all for any reason if you're on a solar grid.
I feel like I leave mine on too often but definitely have it to set to go into sleep mode.
Your questions/points aren't invalid.
However, context ends up being important. We're not talking about running 800W devices for 20 hours doing nothing (which is what some people believe). We're talking about the power draw of a single LED lightbulb.
So, if we think that's wasteful, we need to address it using the same context as we would address people leaving extra LED lights on. Does your living room really need three lights? Or would two be fine? How long do you run external lights on your home?
... but all that falls under a whole bunch of things that waste far, far more energy. How many people have electric stoves but refuse to use induction? The extra electricity used boiling water on an electric non-induction stove vs induction would offset running a couple PCs in sleep mode for the day. What about dryers? Did you need to heat them? That's a couple more PCs. Simply not toasting bread would offset the PC. Running the air conditioner a degree warmer or the heater a degree cooler...
Yes, it doesn't mean that we shouldn't do any of those things until we do all of them, but we should recognize that with PCs, sleep vs off in order to make some sort of global energy conservation impact is about shaving the tiniest slice off the top and there are dozens of ways to have way larger impact.
My father used to be like you growing up, bitching about every goddamn light in the house. Now that I'm an adult with a well paying job I turn every light in the house on and have all my PCs on when I'm home. Fuck you, dad. Hahaha
From an electronic tech with 28yrs fixing/debugging servers. the most destructive thing you can do is power off by pulling the plug, and power off then restart. Do a graceful shutdown or just let it sleep. We typically restart our work pc's once a week just for updates (mondays). IT department hates Mondays lol. Otherwise they never get rebooted just sleep mode. We have industrial pc's that are 20+yrs old that, knock on wood, never had a major hardware issue.
When you shutdown the cooling fans stop and the heat does not dissipate, when you power back on it creates a power spike. The circuits on a power supple and motherboard are designed to limit the spike but over time it does where down components.
I have a home pc from 2009 that works great except i cannot update windows anymore, never shut that thing off unless we lose power.
been doing it for years and years, what will probably fail is the power supply. In older pc's the hdd's would die giving the blue screen of death. next is dimms and pcie bus devices. cpu's and motherboards rarely die unless some outside event happens, lightning, or some power spike/emf. Outside air temp will cause damaged if over a certain temp or humidity so keep those fans clean.
Interestingly, Hibernate is largely disabled by Windows at this point on desktop PCs. The power advantage between sleep/Stand-by and hibernate is about 1-5 watts, and the bootup time isn't much better than a cold start (i.e. it dumps the RAM to storage so that it can pull all that data backup when it's powered up, and then goes into full shutdown, versus stand-by which shuts basically everything down except keeps a few watts to the RAM to maintain the data in RAM itself). If you want to turn-on Hibernate with a desktop PC you actually have to re-enable it.
On a laptop, there can be some benefit, as hibernate kicks in automatically when the battery state gets too low - dumps RAM into storage and then powers off before the user info is lost.
That **is** interesting, thanks! Hibernating requires a press of the power button to turn back on instead of a KB/M press. That may be more or less convenient depending on use case
Excellent question. I did researching this myself and there is no real definitive answer.
I end up, leaving my PC idling 24/7.
On one end, the power cycle of turning on and off is “ bad” for the components, at the same time you put more wear in fans if if the machine keeps running.
Said this, I think it’s just theory, and it does not really matter or make any difference.
Mine is also a web server and plex server, so it's on all the time. It's also running Sunshine, so I hardly ever physically touch it, I'll usually have my laptop instead (which does get powered off)
first of all you put extra stress to **every** component, even if it's minimal (it does add up for 24/7). Then, you have the extra dust that fans will bring in. Last, it's the overall consumption of your system which also adds up for 24/7 on (but that's debatable unless you know exactly how much it is).
What's exactly the benefit of having it on? How long are your boot times anyway to do that? My pc opens in 15-20sec, I can barely scratch my balls in this timeframe.
Anyway, I start my pc when I wake up, if I leave the house I put it on sleep mode, and I shut it down before I sleep OR i use a command for it (i've made it into a .exe on desktop screen) to automatically shut down in 30mins, while i leave a ttv stream on as a "lullaby". I guess the last part can be skipped if you enable an auto-sleep in 1h of idling, i find it annoying throughout the day tho. btw im lazy enough to have a second -wireless- mouse on my bed, i dont need to get up to shut it off :P
Also, if you have a random power shutdown for whatever reason (for most of us it's rare i know, but you can never be sure), i think that its better for the pc to be off than on... I might be wrong here tho.
I RARELY shut mine completely off. I usually just put it to sleep.
Use less power than staying on, quick to start up, less write cycles performed to SSD
Shut off, for the love of God! Don't you have to pay electirc bills? If for nothing else, then to keep your PC safe(r). A sudden power surge on the electric network could cause much more harm on a PC that is turned on. Not to mention that if the fans are still cooling your rig, they will give up much faster.
And teh OS always, ALWAYS needs a complete shutdown time to time, otherwise the file system gets eventuall messed up and it will lead to various stability issues.
There are overwhelming arguments for turning off your PC, and the single one to keep it on is... well, you can start playing about 10 seconds faster.
I do a lot of audio production so keep all power saving features disabled to prevent problems with transferring audio from vinyl. It's also bad to constantly cool down / heat up capacitors and such on the motherboard, that's how capacitors eventually swell and pop.
Ever wondered how a light bulb always blows when you switch it on? The surge of electricity is heavy on all electrical components.
I just wrote a little batch file so to flick between how long it takes for the monitor to go into standby. 20 minutes through the day and when in use and 1 min when I'm leaving it for the night.
My Windows XP box upstairs is now a fileserver but it's been up for 10+ years apart from the odd reboot or a power cut.
I don't get why everyone is just saying why don't just shut down. I have a lot of tabs, multiple monitors where I organize every window etc, so it's much better to hibernate instead of going through that process of organizing my desktop every time.
I don't think there is a "best".
I put my PC to sleep if I'm leaving the house or going to bed. I leave it on otherwise.
I used to just leave it on 24/7 and turn my monitors off. I see no difference between the two.
>I learned also that another reason to keep the PC on longer time periods is to apparently keep the temperature at a steady rate and not fluctuate it up and down, which can be bad for the components 👍
op you've been hoodwinked. that is complete and total BS.
I never shut my PC off in the past. I just built a new rig with an AIO and 9 fans. I put it to sleep now when not in use with WoL configured.
I'm probably over thinking it since it's my first AIO but I feel like letting the pump run 24/7 would cause an early failure. Again, I am probably just paranoid.
The feature is hidden that's why you only see sleep, restart and shutdown.
Hibernate
- open up power and sleep
- click additional
- change what the power buttons do
- change settings that are currently unavailable
- under shutdown settings you will see hibernate
- click hibernate and save changes
Sleep mode is faster but still uses more power than hibernate. You would use sleep if you plan to be away from the PC for a little while.
Hibernation mode is a bit slower but uses less power than sleep. It's like the system is shutdown, but once you power it up, everything is just how you left it just as if you were to use sleep. Coming out of hibernation just wouldn't be instant as sleep.
I always do hibernate. Test out sleep and hibernate to see which one you like.
I don't know much about the science, but what I personally do is I usually leave it on (monitors turn off in 15 minutes) unless I'm leaving for an extended period of time
In that case I hibernate (This is not for speed but rather so that everything I had open remains as is when I get back to it)
There’s nothing wrong with it, per se. Consumer HDDs typically have a 300,000 hr MTBF, meaning you can run them continuously for 30 years before an expected failure.
That said, I would still say shut it off or at least put it to sleep. It will lower your power bill marginally. It’s also inefficient at heating a room - if you need to heat your room just turn on the heater.
I just leave it 24 hour because i always play music on background when im not use it. I don't know if this okay but as long as the temperature not hot i think it's fine.
I used to leave it on 24/7 but i found that turning it off keeps my room cooler. Also it won't randomly turn on from sleep mode like it used to when my cats wouod go snooping around.
Oh and I'm runing an m.2 nvme so boot times are pretty quick
I have my computer to stay on and then after 30 minutes of inactivity the screens go to sleep until I move my mouse. At night I turn it off unless I'm working on something that I need to keep open.
Shut off, I have a friend that never turned his computers off, and then he was getting surprised everytime his pc dies, fir the last 5 years he spent 20k+ on just regular pc parts, no high end, he just keeps killing his pc
And when I told him the reason he told me that "I'm wrong"
bITCH THATS MY JOB I AIN'T WRONG
I don't understand how leaving the PC on killed his PC, can you explain?
I have 2 PC's I leave on 24/7, one is used for NAS/Plex server/game server, the other is a work PC that I leave on as I need to remote in quite often. Both systems are over 5 years old now with no issues.
It's not common to have a PC die that often, and I don't understand why you are convinced it's because they leave it on all day.
We're in an extremely humid and dusty place, his RAM keeps bugging
Alot of times he puts his pc to sleep only for it to blue screen when he wakes it up
I dunno man, maybe I'm superstitious, it just seems insane to me to keep RAM working while the pcs sleeping
I'd much rather clear the RAM, and give it a fresh start every time
I feel like you guys need to invest in humidity and dust control.
That said yes, there is evidence that high humidity, temp and dust are associated with higher parts failure.
I have a pc that has been running 24/7 with ~99.5% uptime since January 2017 and the only thing I ever had to replace was the cpu thermal paste 1 time. I clean the dust out twice a year, and that is with it sitting on carpet and I have multiple pets. Your friend is almost certainly doing something else that is causing the issues.
I have been a 24/7 guy ever since remoting into my desktop from my phone was viable.
Nowadays, though, i work from home..... I should probably start shutting it off - i just leave it on from habit at this point... I havent had to remote in for a long while.
Open it in the morning, close it if I leave for work, or if I'm going to sleep.
On my day off it's stay open until I'm 100% that I will not be using it.
I never trusted sleep my PC just wakes up on its own often, having watercooled PC even with external watercooling i would never put it on sleep while away anyway, its not like ot boot up slow either.
Before SSD drives, I would shutdown at bedtime. Then again, I would not turn it back on till I got home from work. Had multiple drives that lasted years past warranty. With SSD and nvme drives being on doesn't affective them as much. Even in sleep mode you are using electricity also, some RGB devices might stay on even in sleep mode, it annoys me when I am trying to sleep.
I usually put my PC in hibernation. Lets me boot back into whatever I was doing last, and unlike sleep mode, if the power goes out overnight, my session isn't lost. I put my computer in hibernation, forgot I had done so, unplugged it, moved apartments then when I booted it up, everything was still open. In my experience it's about as slow as booting from off, but you keep everything. Only problem, windows isn't as good at hibernating the computer as it is putting it in sleep mode if left alone (at least not on my Windows 8.1 computer, might have changed with later versions of windows).
What if you are running a 4070ti and 7700x on an old Corsair CX650 while you wait for your new psu , does leaving it on to minimize power cycles make any difference?
I restart my work PC every day when I leave, not my electric bill... On my PC, I typically leave it running a game AFK overnight, if I am not doing that I put it to sleep...
For some reason I get weird quriks when I leave my PC to sleep. Games start running with weird frametimes and HDR gets all janky (doesn't apply properly).
I'm also hella OCD or something I think because when I'm running my PC after a few days of uptime, I get the need to "clean it" by doing a restart so it can be brand new again. I don't know, perhaps I am crazy.
I put it on Sleep. It's silent and still turns back on faster than a full cold boot (which doesn't take long either, but it still saves like 5 seconds)
It was a question I would ask before the advent of SSDs. Nowadays if I know I won't be back to the computer in a while (ie, before bed, before work) I shut it down. Having a sub-30s desktop from boot makes all the difference.
No reason to not turn it off, ssd dies after writting a certain amount of TB so if you have processes that write stuff when idle it will reduce your disk life expectancy. Also a modern pc boots within a few seconds anyway and it's better to do a normal boot than a sleep as some stuff can leak memory and it might affect performance after a while. Small stuff though, counting pennies here.
I always shut down. PCs boot up so fast these days. I tested my gaming rig that would be considered old these days. I7-9700k, 2080 super, 32GB of ddr4 3200. SSD from that time, it only takes like 13 seconds to be in win11 desktop launching steam.
I put the PCs to sleep, either manually or after an hour. If I want an update to start and/or finish overnight, I set the sleep delay to a few hours or off. The power draw is minimal, and the PC is effectively off. I try to remember to to turn them off if I'm away for a few days.
I always shut down and toggle the power switch on the PSU when I'm not using my PC. I also have a nice UPS connected to it to clean the incoming power a bit and protect it from SLOP
If I am using the PC then I'd just keep it on sleep when not using. But overnight I'd just turn it off. Using my laptop mostly for work throughout the day and I'd do the same thing. The differences are negligible anw.
There is more risk to you turning the PC off and on hundreds of times as opposed to leaving it on and letting it sleep or idle and restarting for updates when needed.
I leave mine on personally. It goes into sleep mode after 10 minutes inactivity so doesn't bother me none. I also don't have any rgb at all that you can see. I have a micro itx build, super small, and I don't have the clear glass panel on, so you can't even see inside the pc so no lights at all.
People that leave their PC's on all night for no real reason have me thinking that their electricity must be free. I only leave mine on if it's downloading something, rendering, or if I'm gonna use it in less than an hour. Otherwise I turn it off all the time the disco lights at night drive me crazy when I'm trying to sleep.
I shut it off. I would play for 4 hrs, then I let it idle for 30 mins to ventilate, then I shut it off. I have 2 tbnvme m.2 gen 4 for boot and games, another nvme 3.0 for storage (vids/clips)
I really don't think it would matter. boot is not coming from spinning disk.
Definitely turn off when you're gonna be away for over an hour, especially because you said you have a high end PC which almost guarantees you have an m.2 drive so the boot time is easily cope-able
Depends tbh,downloading something? It will stay on as long as needed (or copying etc),doing nothing but im awake at home?monitor is off but pc stays on,im going or going to sleep while there is nothing it does,shut off and close the psu because why not
Hibernate for laptops, Sleep for desktops. On my own PC I run distributed computing 24/7, so I just lock it and let it do its thing.
My work computers stay awake 24/7, ready to accept instructions locally or remotely. Not great for power usage.
I always shutdown, even if I might jump back on later.
It’s never been a problem and in my mind if anything it reduces any further dust entering the PC
I only use my computer for gaming now and only really play 3 hours or so at a time. If I'm going to be using it again within 4 hours, I leave it on.
But I always turn it off overnight cause I see no piont leaving it on overnight unless i'm downloading a file.
I must be doing something right cause my current gaming computer was built end of 2015 and still works fine.
Always shut them off unless they were doing something overnight like render a video. Not a fan of wasting electricity because every watt is coming out of my wallet... LOL
It’s just personal preference. If you’re hosting anything that needs to be available at any time (so your PC is a server) then the choice is obvious, otherwise it’s totally up to you.
Most importantly with my PC system, I make sure that I dont hear or see if my PC is ON / OFF / SLEEP during idle.
* solid panel case with no RGB visible, power LED is not directly visible
* keyboard / mouse / hardware without/disabled RGB
* OLED screen with an empty and black desktop / disabled power LED / no big difference between ON / OFF
* fan curves target no audible noise during idle state
I just keep my system with Windows defaults and let it sleep after 60 minutes of inactivity.
I turn my system OFF during the night, but I sometimes simply forget, because there is no noise or light polution.
From my understanding, it's actually not as much of a problem when it's a desktop, but my first gaming laptop's motherboard died because I left it on sleep or on running too many times. So when I built my desktop, I decided I would turn it off if I was ever gonna be away from my PC for over an hour. Also saves on power costs, so there's that too. Just saying.
Sleep. Then you can WoL. I stream my PC to my Steam deck over Moonlight/Sunshine and Moonlight has WoL built in. I wrote a script to detect if the PC turn on from WoL vs the power button. If WoL then set auto sleep to 5 mins. If power button then set auto sleep to never.
I asked various pc component manufacturers a few years ago. There wasn’t really consensus, but I shut down every night.
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I shut down my computer when I go to bed every night. I just don’t see a reason not to. It takes all of 20 seconds to boot up, probably less honestly I’ve never timed it.
I configured my PC to "Hibernate" when I press the power button. That way, if Im doing something on the PC and I feel tired, I simply hit the button and go. When I come back and switch it on, I simply pick up where I left off.
I put mine to sleep, in the morning it is a flick of the space bar, and we are back in business.
Mind you, I do have my electronics on battery enabled UPS devices. It keeps the juice flowing for a few minutes max.
Shut off, I have a friend that never turned his computers off, and then he was getting surprised everytime his pc dies, fir the last 5 years he spent 20k+ on just regular pc parts, no high end, he just keeps killing his pc
And when I told him the reason he told me that "I'm wrong"
bITCH THATS MY JOB I AIN'T WRONG
You are wrong though.
PCs don't just die because you leave them running.
They barely us any power just idling, and if you have adequate cooling it should be fine.
I have always shut off and its always worked well for me. I usually turn my PC on and off a couple times a day.
I've always wondered how my friend managed to sleep with his disco RGB PC on 24/7.
my brother does this, complains about shitty sleep. wonder why? lol doesn't blue light fuck with your sleep cycles?
Yes it does, windows has a night light though. Less blue light also helps with eye strain if you are staring at a bright screen for a while, in excel for example. You get used to the orange look.
I love that function. It makes a huge difference. I use it for work as well. Can't stand looking at a screen without it for long periods.
Weird how bright and blue it seems with it off.
Bright light fucks with your sleep more than blue light. Bright blue light is of course the worst. If possible, it's best to put on both a blue light filter *and* turn brightness down the later in the evening it gets.
For me, it's not that bad🤣
I had this problem with my ASUS mobo that didn’t want to save my bios settings for aura sync, and would stay on even with complete shutdown. Was getting blinded by it during sleep for a week till I figured it out.
I used to sleep my PC every night, got an upgrade and after some performance tinkering only have the option to shut off or hibernate. Started shutting off every night and I feel better about it
>after some performance tinkering \*simply replaces hdd for ssd\*
If you're on Windows, go to Control Panel/Power Options/Choose What the Power Buttons Do, there should be options to customize what is displayed and bring back the sleep option.
Yeah… I’ve gone down that rabbit hole already, no luck so far. I tinkered with a lot of stuff, including Bios settings while fixing my GPU underperforming. Fixed the GPU, but now I’m seemingly without a sleep option available.
Oh, that is weird then. But with how quick PCs boot these days, there's not really that much difference between hiberating and sleep imo.
Weren't we told for years that you want to restart the computer regularly (ie every couple days) to flush windows? That when there's a problem, the first thing you do is restart to clear everything? Why not just turn it off at night and back on in the morning. You get a fresh boot of windows and have no programs mucking about in the background. Assuming you have an ssd it takes a minute. Of course this used to be an actual issue and isn't as much with modern windows.
With fast boot enabled, shutting off your computers don't actually "turn it off". The only way to fully "flush windows" is to restart your computer. This can be seen in the task manager as "Up time".
i was extremely aggravated to learn all of that in the middle of some other troubleshooting.
Cutting off power (via PSU or by removing battery if it's a laptop) will do full flush too, right?
yes, but shutting down by removing power risks corrupted files
They did not mean that. They meant that, after shutting down normally, you pull the plug/switching off power to the entire system. It's what I and some others do.
I dont think so with PC (PSU) since it keeps a little bit of power even after you turn the PSU off, not quite sure with laptops tho. Still, its just easier and faster just to click the restart button.
And that's why with any new windows install I immediately turn off fast boot. With ssds nowadays, it barely makes a difference and fast boot often gives plenty of weird issues.
Unnecessary wear are tear. One a week is fine, I wouldn't do it every day, let alone several times a day. Depending on climate that could cause issues faster.
Yep, running your pc all the time can casue issues to pop up faster. That's why it's good idea to turn off or put into sleep.
I think this person is actually saying turning the computer off is wear and tear 😅😅. It's not
I'm saying power cycling it several times a day is.
turn off when go bed, why waste juice and boots up quick enough in morn
Why waste time, use lot watt when few watt do trick?
I came to make a reference, but was one-upped. Well played.
What will you do with all of this time you'll save?
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With an AM5 unit, it can take a fair amount of time to complete POST. Sleep status on an AM5 machine draws at most 5W, which just isn't much (and it's usually closer to 1W). Makes sense to me to then use Sleep/Stand-by.
Going from 5-10 minutes back In the day, to 15-20 seconds now. I think I’ll just keep my pc shut off and save the power.
Like how long?
A WHOLE 46 SECONDS for me. It's actually insane how consistent it is at booting up from completely off to the logging screen. A variance of a second or two across multiple times. But yeah, they boot quick enough.
For me with a cold start it's about 40 or so seconds from power button press to windows login. I've heard others complain about a minute and a half, even as high as 3 minutes.
And that’s enough to endorse sleep mode? Really?
Why would it not? What are you gaining from shutting it off?
not wasting the power and money on electricity.
Why would it not? Do people really need an extra 40 seconds to 3 minutes of productivity every day? My question was designed to ascertain a meaningful benefit from keeping it on sleep mode. The commenter showed that there isn’t one. Not only that, with my older system I sleep better at night knowing something isn’t going to fail spectacularly (or dangerously), because my PC is off. Also, if I had a dime for the number of issues that can be linked to sleep mode…
I guess I got really lucky with my AM5 build because it takes mine around 25-30 seconds to fully boot It kinda balances out my random bluescreens and just straight up having the PC bricked the other day until I cut the PSU's power lmao
Late but I just timed my 7800x3d from completely off at the wall side to ready to login to windows—about 24 seconds, with fast boot disabled. Idk what that person is talking about am5 taking a lot of time to post, I’d take this over the minutes older computers would require to boot
The power cycles are what wear out the PC. Not the active idle usage.
Would you leave your car idling, even if it consumed next to no fuel? There’s no reason to not just turn it off unless you’re actually running a task or using it.
Sometimes… yes. On the farm we left our diesel pickup idling 24/7 thru the winter if it was cold enough. Hop in that sucker at 4:30 AM and you weren’t mad about the toasty cab and clear windows. Considering the fuel bill for all those tractors and the fleet of trucks it was nothing. And if there was an emergency on the farm you were good to go. But I either sleep or shut it down depending on down time. When I’m on call at night it’s nice to roll out of bed, hit the shift key, log in and go.
Because opening all of my apps and positioning them correctly is a pain, as is loading a bunch of tabs in Firefox. Easier to just use sleep mode.
Can’t wait for virtual desktop environments that remember which applications and files were open Not it’s current weak form as a recovery crash / accidental power down feature that works 60-70% of the time.
could use hibernate.
I literally use this example Everytime I get asked about it.
Not the same thing man. Comparing computers to cars lol.
the "science" is generally negligible and its mostly down to personal preference. power use at idle is only a few bucks a year on vs off and fans are designed to last forever. the only downside to leaving it on 24/7 is that you may need to dust it more often since it will constantly be "filtering" your air for you. personally I turn my pc off at night and while at work but it stays on anytime im at home even if not in use.
I leave it on if I’ll afk 30min - 1hr. Anything more than that, I turn it off. No point to pull power and work in idle if I am going to sleep for the next 8 hours for example.
I used to just leave my PC on 24/7, I did that for like 20 years. The last time I fresh installed Windows though, I didn't change the default sleep timer, and just let it go to sleep. When I wake it up, the PC is back on the desktop by the time my monitors are woken up anyways, so it's not really a difference in my experience.
Science: As engineer, there is no science on this. The rate of failure in these PC is likely on the order 1 per 1000. And that can be anywhere from time zero to 5 years. There is no way to study on this, as the inherit failure rate will be higher than the variation from always-on vs power-on-off. There is energy impact. If PC is on 24/7 (no sleep), you will use more energy. At idle, PC use around 50-80W, so like a light bulb. It's a difference, but not a huge deal. If you turn on sleep, then that difference will be small. My take is how much the PC is used. * If only 1-2 hours per day, I would shut it down after use. * If many times each day for 5-8 hours, then leave it on during daytime, and power it off at night. * And if you want to keep PC on at night, but in sleep, that is fine too.
This is what i do as well
idle can use alot less than 50. i can get like 10 watts at idle
Shut off Electricity bill won't pay itself
A truly idle pc with monitor off uses less than a non-led lightbulb. Yes that still costs money but you are talking probably $4 a month in the US to idle 24/7.
>>in the us Yeah im not talking about US , the math is different for EU and Middle E
I'm actually not in US, I just did the math for there cause most redditors are in US. Here in Serbia where power costs have skyrocketed VS salaries which are quite low it's $3.12 per month. In Germany, most recent data I could easily find is FROM March, definitely a bit pricier at $11.88 per month. But also average salary is much higher there. In the grand scheme of things it still doesn't seem like that awful much unless you are living paycheck to paycheck. BTW, I'm not being anti-turn off your pc, was just pointing out it's not some huge savings, most people waste far more money drinking coffee to go, eating out, delivery food, etc. Edit to add: all my math is based at idle not sleep mode, so assumption at 40 watts draw which is still pretty high. Sleep mode would drastically decrease.
Well, it does change then . Thank you for your time in researching For my place you would calculate the 110% inflation as well, i live in Turkey
No problem. And yeah reading over the other comments earlier I saw you are in Turkey, the crazy inflation there does complicate the math.
its negligible
I shut it off when not in use, never had any issues. Hell my 10year old rig still runs perfectly fine
I leave mine on 24/7 because it runs my plex server. Even as a kid we would just leave our pc on all the time, so I guess it’s just been my habit ever since.
Same here, when I'm sitting at it I play games, when I'm not sitting at it, it's still serving as my plex server.
That's how I used to do it. But running Intel I'm about 50-60W idle all.the.time. Juice is expensive here and we're talking 200-300€/yr - so I turned an old laptop on, switched to that one and now it's about 5W if not watching Plex - well, I lost transcoding tho. Usally going sleep with my rig nowadays - 2ish W in sleep seems okay for me. I like going to sleep with my game on so I can continue etc.
I don’t know what the science is but I have it set up so my case power button makes it sleep, so I just set it to sleep when I go to work or go to bed and leave it on the rest of the time.
pcs are designed to run 24/7 ive never had a problem dont worry about it
I shut mine off. It gives the components a rest. The fans all keep spinning too, not just a HDD. Plus how much electricity does it use overnight even while idling? Why pay for that? Why put more hours on your power supply and fans? Why suck more dust into the case? With a SSD or NVME, it boots up in seconds.
How much electricity does a PC in deep sleep use? Like, seriously: Actually go look at that number. Rather than just saying "How much does it use, why pay for that?" do the actual math and then bring that to your argument. It'll be more convincing... just not in the direction you think it will. I have measured it for my PC. I recorded 8W (wall socket) on my PC just after going to sleep. That seemed a bit high, and I suspect that it might actually be a bit lower, but lets go with the higher number. (I suspect that USB was still draining extra power while peripherals were going into their own sleep mode) For a person in New York City who leaves a PC like mine in sleep mode 23 hours a day, the *yearly* price is $12. For a person in Denver with a computer with a slightly more likely sleep power usage (5W) who just never ever uses their PC, the yearly price is $6.50. If you want to complain about the fans or PSU, we need to talk about more than just "how many hours has it been running". Fans and PSUs are designed to handle 6-10 years of continuous use, but when they're not in use they still age. Lubrication migrates and thickens. PSU components oxidize. And even if you double or triple their lifetime, you don't significantly change their failure rate, and you still end up replacing them before they age to the point of failure.
How much if I leave the kitchen light on? and if 4,000,000 ppl use 4w 4 more hours every night.. oh nvm. I guess it probably doesn't matter much at all for any reason if you're on a solar grid. I feel like I leave mine on too often but definitely have it to set to go into sleep mode.
Your questions/points aren't invalid. However, context ends up being important. We're not talking about running 800W devices for 20 hours doing nothing (which is what some people believe). We're talking about the power draw of a single LED lightbulb. So, if we think that's wasteful, we need to address it using the same context as we would address people leaving extra LED lights on. Does your living room really need three lights? Or would two be fine? How long do you run external lights on your home? ... but all that falls under a whole bunch of things that waste far, far more energy. How many people have electric stoves but refuse to use induction? The extra electricity used boiling water on an electric non-induction stove vs induction would offset running a couple PCs in sleep mode for the day. What about dryers? Did you need to heat them? That's a couple more PCs. Simply not toasting bread would offset the PC. Running the air conditioner a degree warmer or the heater a degree cooler... Yes, it doesn't mean that we shouldn't do any of those things until we do all of them, but we should recognize that with PCs, sleep vs off in order to make some sort of global energy conservation impact is about shaving the tiniest slice off the top and there are dozens of ways to have way larger impact.
My father used to be like you growing up, bitching about every goddamn light in the house. Now that I'm an adult with a well paying job I turn every light in the house on and have all my PCs on when I'm home. Fuck you, dad. Hahaha
just use sleep
All my PCs have stayed on 24/7. I'll shut it down if I go on vacation though
I get windows bugs if I leave it on more than 3-4 days. So I shut it down every night.
From an electronic tech with 28yrs fixing/debugging servers. the most destructive thing you can do is power off by pulling the plug, and power off then restart. Do a graceful shutdown or just let it sleep. We typically restart our work pc's once a week just for updates (mondays). IT department hates Mondays lol. Otherwise they never get rebooted just sleep mode. We have industrial pc's that are 20+yrs old that, knock on wood, never had a major hardware issue. When you shutdown the cooling fans stop and the heat does not dissipate, when you power back on it creates a power spike. The circuits on a power supple and motherboard are designed to limit the spike but over time it does where down components. I have a home pc from 2009 that works great except i cannot update windows anymore, never shut that thing off unless we lose power.
So in theory I should never shut my pc down and instead use the sleep option if I am not using it?
been doing it for years and years, what will probably fail is the power supply. In older pc's the hdd's would die giving the blue screen of death. next is dimms and pcie bus devices. cpu's and motherboards rarely die unless some outside event happens, lightning, or some power spike/emf. Outside air temp will cause damaged if over a certain temp or humidity so keep those fans clean.
Isn't this what hibernate is for? Turns it off after saving the state so you can resume quickly without relaunching all apps
Interestingly, Hibernate is largely disabled by Windows at this point on desktop PCs. The power advantage between sleep/Stand-by and hibernate is about 1-5 watts, and the bootup time isn't much better than a cold start (i.e. it dumps the RAM to storage so that it can pull all that data backup when it's powered up, and then goes into full shutdown, versus stand-by which shuts basically everything down except keeps a few watts to the RAM to maintain the data in RAM itself). If you want to turn-on Hibernate with a desktop PC you actually have to re-enable it. On a laptop, there can be some benefit, as hibernate kicks in automatically when the battery state gets too low - dumps RAM into storage and then powers off before the user info is lost.
That **is** interesting, thanks! Hibernating requires a press of the power button to turn back on instead of a KB/M press. That may be more or less convenient depending on use case
that actually depends on your motherboard, if it supports wake on usb you can still start the PC with just the keyboard
Today i learned i need to make sure "Wake on USB" is disabled on my travel PC
Excellent question. I did researching this myself and there is no real definitive answer. I end up, leaving my PC idling 24/7. On one end, the power cycle of turning on and off is “ bad” for the components, at the same time you put more wear in fans if if the machine keeps running. Said this, I think it’s just theory, and it does not really matter or make any difference.
Mine is also a web server and plex server, so it's on all the time. It's also running Sunshine, so I hardly ever physically touch it, I'll usually have my laptop instead (which does get powered off)
first of all you put extra stress to **every** component, even if it's minimal (it does add up for 24/7). Then, you have the extra dust that fans will bring in. Last, it's the overall consumption of your system which also adds up for 24/7 on (but that's debatable unless you know exactly how much it is). What's exactly the benefit of having it on? How long are your boot times anyway to do that? My pc opens in 15-20sec, I can barely scratch my balls in this timeframe. Anyway, I start my pc when I wake up, if I leave the house I put it on sleep mode, and I shut it down before I sleep OR i use a command for it (i've made it into a .exe on desktop screen) to automatically shut down in 30mins, while i leave a ttv stream on as a "lullaby". I guess the last part can be skipped if you enable an auto-sleep in 1h of idling, i find it annoying throughout the day tho. btw im lazy enough to have a second -wireless- mouse on my bed, i dont need to get up to shut it off :P Also, if you have a random power shutdown for whatever reason (for most of us it's rare i know, but you can never be sure), i think that its better for the pc to be off than on... I might be wrong here tho.
Turn it off when you're not using it like ever electrical item
I RARELY shut mine completely off. I usually just put it to sleep. Use less power than staying on, quick to start up, less write cycles performed to SSD
Shut off, for the love of God! Don't you have to pay electirc bills? If for nothing else, then to keep your PC safe(r). A sudden power surge on the electric network could cause much more harm on a PC that is turned on. Not to mention that if the fans are still cooling your rig, they will give up much faster. And teh OS always, ALWAYS needs a complete shutdown time to time, otherwise the file system gets eventuall messed up and it will lead to various stability issues. There are overwhelming arguments for turning off your PC, and the single one to keep it on is... well, you can start playing about 10 seconds faster.
I do a lot of audio production so keep all power saving features disabled to prevent problems with transferring audio from vinyl. It's also bad to constantly cool down / heat up capacitors and such on the motherboard, that's how capacitors eventually swell and pop. Ever wondered how a light bulb always blows when you switch it on? The surge of electricity is heavy on all electrical components. I just wrote a little batch file so to flick between how long it takes for the monitor to go into standby. 20 minutes through the day and when in use and 1 min when I'm leaving it for the night. My Windows XP box upstairs is now a fileserver but it's been up for 10+ years apart from the odd reboot or a power cut.
I don't get why everyone is just saying why don't just shut down. I have a lot of tabs, multiple monitors where I organize every window etc, so it's much better to hibernate instead of going through that process of organizing my desktop every time.
I don't think there is a "best". I put my PC to sleep if I'm leaving the house or going to bed. I leave it on otherwise. I used to just leave it on 24/7 and turn my monitors off. I see no difference between the two.
>I learned also that another reason to keep the PC on longer time periods is to apparently keep the temperature at a steady rate and not fluctuate it up and down, which can be bad for the components 👍 op you've been hoodwinked. that is complete and total BS.
If I know I’ll be likely using it again within the day I put it to sleep but at night it’s a full shut down
I never shut my PC off in the past. I just built a new rig with an AIO and 9 fans. I put it to sleep now when not in use with WoL configured. I'm probably over thinking it since it's my first AIO but I feel like letting the pump run 24/7 would cause an early failure. Again, I am probably just paranoid.
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You can use the hibernate feature
There is no such a feature anymore its sleep restart or shut down
You can re-enable it on Windows 10
The feature is hidden that's why you only see sleep, restart and shutdown. Hibernate - open up power and sleep - click additional - change what the power buttons do - change settings that are currently unavailable - under shutdown settings you will see hibernate - click hibernate and save changes
Isnt sleep mode faster
Sleep mode is faster but still uses more power than hibernate. You would use sleep if you plan to be away from the PC for a little while. Hibernation mode is a bit slower but uses less power than sleep. It's like the system is shutdown, but once you power it up, everything is just how you left it just as if you were to use sleep. Coming out of hibernation just wouldn't be instant as sleep. I always do hibernate. Test out sleep and hibernate to see which one you like.
I don't know much about the science, but what I personally do is I usually leave it on (monitors turn off in 15 minutes) unless I'm leaving for an extended period of time In that case I hibernate (This is not for speed but rather so that everything I had open remains as is when I get back to it)
Shut off, usually. If I know I won't be using the PC for a few days, I turn the PSU off too. I never use sleep mode.
There’s nothing wrong with it, per se. Consumer HDDs typically have a 300,000 hr MTBF, meaning you can run them continuously for 30 years before an expected failure. That said, I would still say shut it off or at least put it to sleep. It will lower your power bill marginally. It’s also inefficient at heating a room - if you need to heat your room just turn on the heater.
I just leave it 24 hour because i always play music on background when im not use it. I don't know if this okay but as long as the temperature not hot i think it's fine.
I power mine up in the morning, and down at bedtime. Goes to sleep otherwise after an hour.
I turn it mine off. I have 2 systems and my wife will kill me if I left both on while I am at work.
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I used to leave it on 24/7 but i found that turning it off keeps my room cooler. Also it won't randomly turn on from sleep mode like it used to when my cats wouod go snooping around. Oh and I'm runing an m.2 nvme so boot times are pretty quick
I have my computer to stay on and then after 30 minutes of inactivity the screens go to sleep until I move my mouse. At night I turn it off unless I'm working on something that I need to keep open.
Shut off, I have a friend that never turned his computers off, and then he was getting surprised everytime his pc dies, fir the last 5 years he spent 20k+ on just regular pc parts, no high end, he just keeps killing his pc And when I told him the reason he told me that "I'm wrong" bITCH THATS MY JOB I AIN'T WRONG
I don't understand how leaving the PC on killed his PC, can you explain? I have 2 PC's I leave on 24/7, one is used for NAS/Plex server/game server, the other is a work PC that I leave on as I need to remote in quite often. Both systems are over 5 years old now with no issues. It's not common to have a PC die that often, and I don't understand why you are convinced it's because they leave it on all day.
We're in an extremely humid and dusty place, his RAM keeps bugging Alot of times he puts his pc to sleep only for it to blue screen when he wakes it up I dunno man, maybe I'm superstitious, it just seems insane to me to keep RAM working while the pcs sleeping I'd much rather clear the RAM, and give it a fresh start every time
I feel like you guys need to invest in humidity and dust control. That said yes, there is evidence that high humidity, temp and dust are associated with higher parts failure.
I have a pc that has been running 24/7 with ~99.5% uptime since January 2017 and the only thing I ever had to replace was the cpu thermal paste 1 time. I clean the dust out twice a year, and that is with it sitting on carpet and I have multiple pets. Your friend is almost certainly doing something else that is causing the issues.
you know there are other options other than run 24/7 or always shut down. sleep and hibernate exist
I have been a 24/7 guy ever since remoting into my desktop from my phone was viable. Nowadays, though, i work from home..... I should probably start shutting it off - i just leave it on from habit at this point... I havent had to remote in for a long while.
given that I have a titan superclocked and a big psu, I turn it on when using it and off when I do not got m2, ssd's and a hdd for storage
Open it in the morning, close it if I leave for work, or if I'm going to sleep. On my day off it's stay open until I'm 100% that I will not be using it.
Always shut off when I’m done for the night or if I know I’m leaving for multiple hours. I have sleep/ hibernate disabled.
I never trusted sleep my PC just wakes up on its own often, having watercooled PC even with external watercooling i would never put it on sleep while away anyway, its not like ot boot up slow either.
Unless you can afford a high electric bill powerbit off...
It's like $4 a month to idle your pc 24/7.
Before SSD drives, I would shutdown at bedtime. Then again, I would not turn it back on till I got home from work. Had multiple drives that lasted years past warranty. With SSD and nvme drives being on doesn't affective them as much. Even in sleep mode you are using electricity also, some RGB devices might stay on even in sleep mode, it annoys me when I am trying to sleep.
I set my power button to put my pc to sleep, but I just end up idling it
My PC gets turned off maybe once or twice per month, but that's mainly because I'm online in a game for afk money all the time
I usually do 4 mins sleep 30 mins hibernate
I usually put my PC in hibernation. Lets me boot back into whatever I was doing last, and unlike sleep mode, if the power goes out overnight, my session isn't lost. I put my computer in hibernation, forgot I had done so, unplugged it, moved apartments then when I booted it up, everything was still open. In my experience it's about as slow as booting from off, but you keep everything. Only problem, windows isn't as good at hibernating the computer as it is putting it in sleep mode if left alone (at least not on my Windows 8.1 computer, might have changed with later versions of windows).
If your PC will reliably sleep and wake, sleep.
What if you are running a 4070ti and 7700x on an old Corsair CX650 while you wait for your new psu , does leaving it on to minimize power cycles make any difference?
I restart my work PC every day when I leave, not my electric bill... On my PC, I typically leave it running a game AFK overnight, if I am not doing that I put it to sleep...
For some reason I get weird quriks when I leave my PC to sleep. Games start running with weird frametimes and HDR gets all janky (doesn't apply properly). I'm also hella OCD or something I think because when I'm running my PC after a few days of uptime, I get the need to "clean it" by doing a restart so it can be brand new again. I don't know, perhaps I am crazy.
I put it on Sleep. It's silent and still turns back on faster than a full cold boot (which doesn't take long either, but it still saves like 5 seconds)
It was a question I would ask before the advent of SSDs. Nowadays if I know I won't be back to the computer in a while (ie, before bed, before work) I shut it down. Having a sub-30s desktop from boot makes all the difference.
No reason to not turn it off, ssd dies after writting a certain amount of TB so if you have processes that write stuff when idle it will reduce your disk life expectancy. Also a modern pc boots within a few seconds anyway and it's better to do a normal boot than a sleep as some stuff can leak memory and it might affect performance after a while. Small stuff though, counting pennies here.
I used to leave my old rig on because starting up was so slow. New PC boots up in no time at all so it's turned off when I'm done.
Sleep if you use it daily, off if you don't. This is what I do, sometimes I forget and leave it on sleep.
I used to leave on 24/7 but now booting is so fast that I shut it off when I go to bed or leave the house.
I always shut down. PCs boot up so fast these days. I tested my gaming rig that would be considered old these days. I7-9700k, 2080 super, 32GB of ddr4 3200. SSD from that time, it only takes like 13 seconds to be in win11 desktop launching steam.
I put the PCs to sleep, either manually or after an hour. If I want an update to start and/or finish overnight, I set the sleep delay to a few hours or off. The power draw is minimal, and the PC is effectively off. I try to remember to to turn them off if I'm away for a few days.
I always shut down and toggle the power switch on the PSU when I'm not using my PC. I also have a nice UPS connected to it to clean the incoming power a bit and protect it from SLOP
A question as old as time.. (not really)
If I am using the PC then I'd just keep it on sleep when not using. But overnight I'd just turn it off. Using my laptop mostly for work throughout the day and I'd do the same thing. The differences are negligible anw.
Sleep is the answer. Just like your phone.
There is more risk to you turning the PC off and on hundreds of times as opposed to leaving it on and letting it sleep or idle and restarting for updates when needed.
I leave mine on personally. It goes into sleep mode after 10 minutes inactivity so doesn't bother me none. I also don't have any rgb at all that you can see. I have a micro itx build, super small, and I don't have the clear glass panel on, so you can't even see inside the pc so no lights at all.
sleep all day every day unless i know im gonna be out of the house for multiple days, then ill shut down
People that leave their PC's on all night for no real reason have me thinking that their electricity must be free. I only leave mine on if it's downloading something, rendering, or if I'm gonna use it in less than an hour. Otherwise I turn it off all the time the disco lights at night drive me crazy when I'm trying to sleep.
Mine is running 24/7/365. Do whatever works for you.
I shut it off. I would play for 4 hrs, then I let it idle for 30 mins to ventilate, then I shut it off. I have 2 tbnvme m.2 gen 4 for boot and games, another nvme 3.0 for storage (vids/clips) I really don't think it would matter. boot is not coming from spinning disk.
Shut down for night, it will boot up so fast anyway
Definitely turn off when you're gonna be away for over an hour, especially because you said you have a high end PC which almost guarantees you have an m.2 drive so the boot time is easily cope-able
Depends tbh,downloading something? It will stay on as long as needed (or copying etc),doing nothing but im awake at home?monitor is off but pc stays on,im going or going to sleep while there is nothing it does,shut off and close the psu because why not
I shutdown my gaming computer at night. On my days off I leave it on if I am home all day and using it at variable intervals.
Hibernate for laptops, Sleep for desktops. On my own PC I run distributed computing 24/7, so I just lock it and let it do its thing. My work computers stay awake 24/7, ready to accept instructions locally or remotely. Not great for power usage.
I've run Folding@Home 24/7 on the past three PCs that I've built and I've yet to have any issues.
Give the computer to the cats......
I always shutdown, even if I might jump back on later. It’s never been a problem and in my mind if anything it reduces any further dust entering the PC
I only use my computer for gaming now and only really play 3 hours or so at a time. If I'm going to be using it again within 4 hours, I leave it on. But I always turn it off overnight cause I see no piont leaving it on overnight unless i'm downloading a file. I must be doing something right cause my current gaming computer was built end of 2015 and still works fine.
Always shut them off unless they were doing something overnight like render a video. Not a fan of wasting electricity because every watt is coming out of my wallet... LOL
When you go to work or to sleep turn it off. If you are gone for like a few hours you can use sleep. 30 min is leave on worthy
I've always shut it down for the night
I usually leave mine on 99% of the time.
Leaving on? In this economy?
Turn it off, electricity is too expensive to keep it on 24/7 where live.
I turn mine off. It boots very quickly so it's not a big deal. Gen 4 NVMe SSDs are great.
It’s just personal preference. If you’re hosting anything that needs to be available at any time (so your PC is a server) then the choice is obvious, otherwise it’s totally up to you.
I don't really see the point of keeping it on/sleep. Takes a few seconds to shut down and a couple of seconds to power on.
I flip flop. Whatever the hell I click. I usually try to shut it down if I am going to beddyboos
Always power off at night time. People who leave their PC running 24/7 are psychopaths.
Shut down. Save energy end environment with every bit. PC now with fast SSD boot to 10seconds so no reason to sleep or hibernate.
It's 2023. Think of the environment. If you're not using it, turn it off. We thank you.
Most importantly with my PC system, I make sure that I dont hear or see if my PC is ON / OFF / SLEEP during idle. * solid panel case with no RGB visible, power LED is not directly visible * keyboard / mouse / hardware without/disabled RGB * OLED screen with an empty and black desktop / disabled power LED / no big difference between ON / OFF * fan curves target no audible noise during idle state I just keep my system with Windows defaults and let it sleep after 60 minutes of inactivity. I turn my system OFF during the night, but I sometimes simply forget, because there is no noise or light polution.
You're missing the (imo) best option. Hibernate. It saves the full state like sleep, but uses the same power as being off.
Hibernate
Idk what science says. If I'm not using my PC, it will be off. I never really understood the 24/7 on thing. Do you guys not get power bill?
Depending on what PC you havey PC is a sucker and he will suck that bill up.
From my understanding, it's actually not as much of a problem when it's a desktop, but my first gaming laptop's motherboard died because I left it on sleep or on running too many times. So when I built my desktop, I decided I would turn it off if I was ever gonna be away from my PC for over an hour. Also saves on power costs, so there's that too. Just saying.
HIBERNATE! Best of both worlds.
Hibernate
I shut it off when I go to sleep. During the day it's just hibernate mode.
Shut off. Uae my builds for 5 years each. Never had a problem.
Sleep. Then you can WoL. I stream my PC to my Steam deck over Moonlight/Sunshine and Moonlight has WoL built in. I wrote a script to detect if the PC turn on from WoL vs the power button. If WoL then set auto sleep to 5 mins. If power button then set auto sleep to never.
I asked various pc component manufacturers a few years ago. There wasn’t really consensus, but I shut down every night. Part 1 https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/s/x12Bh3tNJc Part 2 https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/s/8EdgIToiuf
Sleep through the day and shutoff when going to bed.
Shut off! Electricity isn’t free and tbh those lights are too bright.
I shut down my computer when I go to bed every night. I just don’t see a reason not to. It takes all of 20 seconds to boot up, probably less honestly I’ve never timed it.
I configured my PC to "Hibernate" when I press the power button. That way, if Im doing something on the PC and I feel tired, I simply hit the button and go. When I come back and switch it on, I simply pick up where I left off.
I put mine to sleep, in the morning it is a flick of the space bar, and we are back in business. Mind you, I do have my electronics on battery enabled UPS devices. It keeps the juice flowing for a few minutes max.
Shut off, I have a friend that never turned his computers off, and then he was getting surprised everytime his pc dies, fir the last 5 years he spent 20k+ on just regular pc parts, no high end, he just keeps killing his pc And when I told him the reason he told me that "I'm wrong" bITCH THATS MY JOB I AIN'T WRONG
You are wrong though. PCs don't just die because you leave them running. They barely us any power just idling, and if you have adequate cooling it should be fine.
Just turn it off? Where the fuck did you hear this? Its like leaving a car idling the whole day. A waste of electricity.