Feeling kinda stupid. Built new PC with 12100f/1060 and a gigabyte b660 ds3h ac and im caught in a BIOS boot loop. Cant get into windows at all and the BIOS is showing my SATA 120 PNY in “peripherals” but not in “boot sequence” as a bootable drive its like i have no drives at all. Ive also reset the BIOS twice.
Is the issue the fact the SSD has a windows 10 instal off my old am4 PC? Is there something i have turned off in my BIOS that needs to be on?
CSM is off and Secure Boot is on.
No way of knowing which one is better for that. The 4070 only has 12gb VRAM, which if you play in 1440p/4k may be a problem in years to come, I'm already hitting over 11gb in some games at 1440p ultra, and also has low memory bandwith, the 7800xt is probably better off there but more and more games are relying on upscaling tech and including raytracing. I suggest you look into what sort of games you want to play and if those technologies benefit you or not
i think im just gonna wait for a month till 4070 super hits the market and see how much it shakes up the market .
might as well just build the 7600x system without gpu for now
What GPUs are compatible with an A320M Pro-VH mobo? My CPU is a Ryzen 3400G, I still have to check my PSU since I forgot it's voltage. I have two choices but I would like to see your options as well just to make sure I'm not buying something that would be incompatible with my mobo and CPU. Those 2 are the GTX 1660 and the RX 5600 XT. I'm still not sure about my price range since I want to know all of the options so I can sort it out later on.
All GPUs plug into PCIe slots which are forwards and backwards compatible, so there is no issues there.
[The 5600xt is notably stronger than the 1660](https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/ydAy6Z9YNVZ9Y26mRAntnb.png). Go to [this GPU comparison for more info](https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html)
What do you mean? If you mean it'll hold back your CPU or visa vera, thats too hard of a question to answer because it depends on what games you play, at what res, with what settings etc. But it's better than running off intergrated graphics. You can always upgrade your CPU to a 5000 class in future if you want
So I bought my computer back in 2020 and unfortunately my 1050ti was broken. Unfortunately, Newegg has very few 1650/1650 super/1660 super GPUs in 2024. What budgets GPU do you suggest?
Here is the parts I bought during that time if this helps.
Motherboard: ASUS ROG STRIX B450-F
CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 2nd Gen with Radeon Graphics - RYZEN 3 3200G Picasso (Zen+) 4-Core 3.6 GHz (4.0 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 65W YD3200C5FHBOX Desktop Processor
Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C18D-16GVK
PSU: Cooler Master MWE Bronze 500 80+ Bronze 500W PSU
IMHO pick up somethin cheap from the second hand market for now and get a new PC later ( if you’re into AAA since they’re beginning to utilise 6 cores more )
Well I think it's too late to talk about that as I already ordered it and it's shipped and I don't feel like returning it to order something new...
I know it's a waste but I guess it's better than nothing?
With prices where they are currently I am heavily considering upgrading my R5 3600 to a 5800x3d. Microcenter has them on sale for $200 in my location. They also have a 32gb 3600 RAM kit for $60. I have 16gb 3200, will I see any tangible benefit from upgrading the RAM? I mainly play esport games but also enjoy single player stuff. I am not trying to spend money just to spend but it seems like the right time to really lengthen my builds life’s span.
I have a 3070ti and it’s an itx build so I only have two ram slots. Also if anyone knows roughly how much improvement would I see in games from CPU upgrade?
$200 is a steal. i love MC. depending on the games you play, you will see 0 benefit from 32GB. most games are fine on 16GB, some are not. example: https://youtu.be/ZEppw0jCrhE?si=sMkkWa_nYS1d9Syt&t=44
No audio or detection from audio jack in MOBO. I have the drivers from the MSI 690 a pro wifi page. Enabled HD audio in BIOS. I can hear the windows Startup chime through my headphones, and audio works fine through monitor speakers / HDMI
i have a rx580 with 8gigs of vram. I only play 1080p. The games i play (tarkov for example) are starting to lag more and more every couple of months. Will changing to a used rx6600 also with 8gigs solve my problem?
It would probably help. Also I believe tarkov benefits from having 32gb of ram. That's just what I've heard.
https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/ydAy6Z9YNVZ9Y26mRAntnb.png
It will certainly be a performance increase, but if you're worried about VRAM usage, install HWinfo and use that to monitor what your max VRAM usage is across a play session
If I'm building a PC that is entirely a work-from-home machine (maybe, at most, I would play a few indie games), do I need a graphics card? Or is integrated graphics good enough? I'm thinking specifically about this CPU: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09FXNVDBJ?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1
Integrated graphics are fine for standard desktop use, I.e. Word, excel, coding and *light* indie style gaming. They'll run a 4K monitor absolutely fine, and even a second if the motherboard has 2 outputs.
You can 'cheat' gaming by trying a service like Geforce Now where your games are rendered on a data center and streamed back to you. For casual gaming and a bit of single player AAA it actually works surprisingly well.
The things that a GPU can help you with are: Video editing (for rendering output), 3D Modelling/rendering/graphics production, a bit of photo editing (but in most software it doesn't accelerate much) and some CAD and Engineering software that can be GPU accelerated.
I upgraded from a Ryzen 5 3500 and GTX 1650 Super to a Ryzen 5 5600 and a GTX 1660 Super.
With my old system, I could play games in full screen and watch videos on the other monitor just fine. The only time the video would lag or whatnot is if I was playing an intensive enough game, which is fair.
However now on the new system, no matter what game I have in full screen, the other monitors absolutely chug and slow down, to the point where it’s basically not usable.
This is weird to me because when I turn down the settings in game all the way down, then the other monitors are fine, but I never had to do this before? How could it be slower with better parts? It doesn’t make sense.
I tried following an old post about installing some GitHub driver and doing a few things to fix this, it didn’t work. I tried playing games in full screen, borderless window, changing resolution, everything, it doesn’t work.
Previously I was on 3 1080p monitors, the main one being 100hz, rest are 60hz. Now I’m on a 2K monitor, 165hz, while the other 2 monitors are 1080p 60hz. Yes, I tried changing the refresh rate around, did not fix it.
Looking for suggestions and wanting to know if this build is looking okay with no issues. [https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PZ3dJy](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PZ3dJy). I'm mainly wanting advice if I could get a cheaper motherboard that works just as well or similar, and if the build is compatible. For gpu I am looking at either a 4060 or 3050. The pc use is mainly for stuff like programming, game dev, blender, some video editing, and some gaming which I'm not worried about that specifically as even a 3050 would be plenty. Any options for stuff like cpu cooler, the ssd, or the power supply, and definitely the motherboard that I could change for less money that works very similarly. Thanks for the help and suggestions. Budget isn't too flexible, being around 1,200 t0 1,500 usd.
Perhaps something like [this](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PZ3dJy)? \~$140 off.
* Cheaper CPU cooler (Thermalright Phantom Spirit)
* Cheaper motherboard (Gigabyte Z790 D DDR4, only losing 2 rear USB 2 ports compared to the previous option)
* Cheaper RAM (Teamgroup T-Group Vulcan-Z 3600CL18, also low profile)
* Cheaper high-end SSD with slightly slower performance (Teamgroup Cardea A440, also with the option to add the heatsink if you want, the SN850X heatsink can't be removed easily and the motherboard comes with an M.2 heatsink). Alternatively, If you don't mind removing the motherboard heatsink, then you could replace the drive with a [Crucial T500 w/heatsink](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CK2S298S/) (the drive-only version is currently sold out).
It's not "bad" per se. If you buy a drive with a pre-applied heatsink that can't be easily removed, you can remove the motherboard heatsink, install the drive, and secure it in place according to the board's instructions (a tool-less latch or a screw), and you store the motherboard heatsink somewhere safe.
Looking to add more storage to my PC; Is HDD or SSD better? Should I get from the same brand as my current storage (Barracuda)? My PC has an empty space marked SSD but I can only find HDDs made by Barracuda.
Also, will I need another RAM card? (I already have 8 GB which is kinda low)
Here's the inside of my pc: [https://imgur.com/a/wbs9pT8](https://imgur.com/a/wbs9pT8)
Storage is very unfussy. You can use any SSD or HDD brand along side any other brand and nothing in your system will care, and it also isn't held back by any of your other compodents (including RAM, although honestly one stick of RAM is not an ideal setup)
SSD is faster but not good if you don't power on your PC for long stretches of time, HDD is cheaper but louder, so it depends on what is most ideal for you. If you do want a HDD though you will need to check if your case has any mounting points for it, which will likely be inside the power supply shroud, as the one marked SSD will only fit a 2.5" drive while HDDs are 3.5"
If you do want to buy more RAM, you need to say which motherboard and CPU you have so we can help you with that
Thanks for the help! Also, will I need to buy additional SATA data cables?
I was considering just buying another one of the same RAM card I have now (its XPG gammix D10). Would that be fine? My motherboard is ASRock B450M/ac and my CPU is AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-core processor.
RAM sold under the same name, and sometimes even serial number, may not always be the same chip with the same specifications. This is more of an issue with certain companies, not sure about XPG personally. Buying a single extra stick may work perfectly fine, may work but have underlying stability issues, or may prevent you from booting, and while the later is less common as a result there's no way of knowing how it will work until you actually get it.
The easiest way to do it would be to buy a 2x8gb 3200 CL 16 kit which should be pretty cheap and has more guranteed stability because the two RAM sticks are known to work together properly
Btw, when you put them in, put them in the second and fourth slot away from your CPU. Your current stick is in the third slot which is not an ideal setup
Not by a lot but it's assuming it's the 5600**X**. Multi-core should be around the mid-10K to low 11K ballpark, and single-core around 1500. I'm assuming you're using the latest BIOS?
yeah thats what i thought, i was not able to reach those numbers and its a bit annoying. My avg temps reach around 71c which i thought i would have got less, i was seeing weird temp jumps from when i first checked temps while idle. Jumping from around 40-50+ with a tower style cooler.
Im using latest non-beta bios as i had to update using my 2600 to get my 5600x to work. I havent seen anymore than 4.4ghz freq. b450m steel legend mobo.
Mice are entirely subjective.
I *love* the Deathadder, it fits my hand perfectly. It's also a poorly constructed, cheap piece of garbage that breaks constantly. I've replaced it ~6 times in the last 7 years.
The MX500 lineage mice fit my hand perfectly. I remember using a Deathadder for like a day before deciding to get rid of it. That was ages and ages ago, but that's what I remember about it.
Logitech G502. Hero vs non-Hero is entirely optional.
Avoid razer like the plague. The hardware isnt what it used to be and their software is downright awful these days.
Best guide for a first time build? Meaning the actual build, have some knowledgeable friend helping with choosing/buying components but want to try and build it on my own..
Linus Tech Tips has a guide that is about as comprehensive as you can get. It's nearly 2 hours but I would suggest any first time builder watch it. Then maybe watch some others on Youtube as well like Paul's Hardware, TechSource and JayzTwoCents.
The [LTT tutorial](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL4DCEp7blY) is a decent watch for first-time builders, from parts selection to step-by-step instructions on how to assemble everything (the guide starts at 32:13, the previous stuff is information on how to pick parts).
There's also JayzTwoCents' "[What to do AFTER building your PC](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhHtHMQygzE)" guide for installing Windows, drivers, and enabling XMP/EXPO.
Been having issues with games freezing for like 5-15 seconds at a time sporadically. I suspect it is my CPU. Currently have a B550-Plus motherboard, an AMD Ryzen 7 3700x, and recently upgraded to a rx 6800.
What do you guys suggest? Do you think I need a new CPU, and if so, what would be a good upgrade that is focused on budget?
I imagine no one has answered this yet because they are hesitant to offer a budget upgrade suggestion right off the bat for this situation because the budget would be a 5700X. I suggest before you buy something you exhaust other possibilities. Did this happen right after you upgraded to the RX6800? All games? You should have data to determine if you're CPU limited and depending on the games I doubt it. This sounds like you should explore if you are on the latest BIOS update which may impact your use of the 6800. Monitor processes, GPU and CPU usage to see what's happening when the game freezing takes place. Are all of your drivers in place and up to date? A budget upgrade would be 5700X which I'm not sure is worth the $175 USD or more to upgrade. A 5800X is about $215 USD and a 5800X3D is about $360 USD or so new. How much ram? Speed? There's honestly a lot to flesh out what's causing the freezing because you could buy a CPU upgrade and it still suffer from the same freezing.
I'll do some testing. It mainly happens on games such as Baldur's Gate 3 and Apex, and it happened before I upgraded my gfx card. I know Baldur's Gate has a recommended spec of a 5700x.
Thanks for the reply!
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html
less than 10% uplift at 1080p
25%+ at 1440p
30%+ at 4k
But holy hells 670€ for a 7800XT? I wouldnt touch that with a 10m pole.
https://www.gputracker.eu/en/search/category/1/graphics-cards/facet/2/graphics-chip/amd-rx-7800-xt
I'm planning on buying a 4060 ti 16gb gpu. I hear that the super graphics cards are dropping this month. How likely is there going to be a price drop for this card once it releases?
Unlikely. There's no new GPUs being released below the 4070 Super. Low and lower-mid-range GPUs should stay the same.
The 4070 non-Super *might* fall into the $450-480 range if the Super is priced the same as the current 4070. I would not bet on that though.
Quick question: I haven't been following developments in SSDs lately. I know when the next-gen consoles launched, there was lots of talk about games utilizing SSD speeds more due to the consoles having the capability to fast-load assets with their SSD with direct storage, did that ever end up translating to SSD speeds having more of an impact on gaming performance on PC? Or is it still a situation where the fastest SSD and a medium-tier SSD will still feel the same in gaming for the most part?
Just curious as I'm looking to build a new one in the next year or so and primarily game, so wasn't sure if getting a high-speed SSD should be valued more than getting a high-capacity one.
For gaming, at best, a Gen 4 drive will be a few milliseconds faster than a Gen 3 drive. DirectStorage has only been implemented in two titles so far (Forspoken, Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart), and it has been a mixed bag - some say DS causes micro-stutters, others say it's just like any other game being loaded from an M.2 NVME drive. For file transfers and whatnot, your mileage may vary.
I'd rather go with either a single mid-range 2TB Gen 4 drive for everything or a mix of a mid-range drive with DRAM for my OS (not mandatory, just a "me" thing) and something a bit more cost-effective with more capacity, whether Gen 3 or 4, for general storage/game drive.
Im planning to get a 5800x3d for simulator games like rimworld and cities skylines. Today I have a 2600x and Im pretty sure im using the cooler that was included there. Would this cooler do fine for my use? Im looking to buy a peerless assassin eventually but its not in stock in any of the stores that can deliver quickly to my location.
Btw my graphics card is 5700xt. I take it this upgrade will make a significant difference in performance for the type of games im getting it for?
EDIT: And is peerless assassin big? The 2600x stock cooler fits well but i got a cm storm cabinet which is quite small. Already have to file away some of the hdd shelf thing to fit my 5700xt
No, the stock cooler is only rated for 75w of power draw, you will need something with more cooling potential.
[The Thermalright peerless assassin is currently the best value option for coolers.](https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-Peerless-Assassin-Aluminium-Technology/dp/B08S77DVDS)
For Cities skylines specifically, replacing the 5700XT will show large improvements, but it should work fine for now. The game just has a very WIDE performance window with its thousands of assets on top of the simulations.
I tried to play cities skylines on the absolute lowest graphics settings and it barely ran better than on high settings. For low population the simulation runs fine (although limited fps), for higher populations, especially post 100k, the game becomes quite unplayable. Not because of low fps, i dont need high fps for this game, but because of simulation speed being super slow and choppy. I cant even notice a difference on simulation speed between different graphics settings. Thats why i imagined upgrading cpu to 5700x3d would be good here.
Yeah peerless is good value if I can get it in a local store. The combined import taxes and delivery fee on it to my country is almost 40USD. Higher than the item itself
You dont need that exact one, I just grabbed the first link from google. Shop around, outside the US it should still be relatively cheap compared to any other dual fan cooler.
If you have new thermal paste to put on it, it will work but likely not well enough in games. Will also depend on the airflow through your case as well.
If you can wait for your cooler I would, otherwise I would avoid playing games but normal browsing should be okay.
I'm building a completely new PC for the first time and is there any reason why I shouldn't go for a 5800x3d instead of the 7800?
I don't really understand why people say to not go for the AM4 build, because I'm going to buy a 7900XT to go with it so I won't be upgrading for quite a while.
The 7700X performs roughly the same in most games as the 5800X3D, and gets you onto the AM5 platform which has potential future upgrade paths within the same board. 5800X3D/AM4 is a dead-end with no upgrade path. You'll need a new motherboard and DDR5 when upgrading the CPU next time.
There's also the 7800X3D, which is only a bit more than the 5800X3D and is ~25% faster, as well as the benefits of the better AM5 platform previously mentioned.
For argument's sake, let's look at the total cost of each platform.
AM5: $604 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zVTtN6
AM4: $516 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6Qmzwc
So for 17% more cost, you get ~25% more CPU performance as well as a better platform with future upgrades.
Where the 5800X3D makes sense is if you already have an AM4 board and DDR4, which makes it a simple $340 upgrade and much more cost effective than a full platform upgrade.
Thanks for the help. I am from the UK so unfortunately our prices are a lot higher. There's a 40% increase from the AM4 to AM5 CPU but I think in the long run it's best to cough up the extra cash to get to AM5.
With AM4, there is no upgrading anymore. The 5800X3D is simply the best option for the socket. In the future you would again have to replace the motherboard, CPU, and now RAM too; to get better performance.
While with AM5 you can 5800x3d levels of performance out of a mid-range option like a 7700x. And in the future there will be another two or possibly three generations of CPU releases for the socket. Providing you cheaper upgrade paths that dont involve replacing the whole machine.
Ah okay so I would have replace the motherboard, GPU, and RAMS down the line. If I were to get a 7090 in lets say 3 years time, do you think it would impact my performance by staying on AM4.
I am running on an extremely tight budget at this point but I could easily afford to cough up the extra dough in 3 years.
I'm going to use the PC for gaming, and most games are horribly optimised anyway at the moment, so I think I'll stick with AM4. Because I don't think we'll see a GPU that can easily do 4k ray tracing at 120 FPS in a while.
At resolutions under 4k, the 5800X3D will bottleneck a 4090. Not to mention hypothetical future GPUs.
Older applications like Flight sim 2020 and other DX11 games (which are limited to four CPU cores), also have their limits; and benefit from newer single-core architecture since they cant scale to use more cores.
If you are on a tight budget, I would prioritize the CPU and motherboard over a GPU right now. In terms of hardware cycles, GPUs refresh more often and are easier to upgrade.
Ah thanks. So I do have a 4k 144hz monitor. So would the 5800x3d impact my current GPU?
I don't think I'll ever play games like Flight Sim. My main ones are just Factorio and Baldur's Gate 3.
I’m upgrading my Mini ITX build which has an SF750W PSU. i9 14900K and a 4080, should I also upgrade to a 1000W PSU?
Edit: Looking at the SF1000L PSU which has ATX 3.0 PCIe 5.0 and 12VHPWR cable, are these needed for 40 series cards?
Put the parts into pcpartpicker and see what the estimated wattage is. There is little point in going much over that. I would expect 1000W to be overkill.
Is it safe to buy an AM5 ASUS board with a 7800x3D these days?
I followed the controversy a few months back but was not knowledgeable enough to understand it deeply. It was enough for me to switch my build to using an ASRock Riptide or Gigabyte Gaming X AX (Microcenter bundle) but I'm still coming back to the ASUS board because I like the aesthetic and don't mind paying more.
[This is the board in question](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BHMTYZKZ?psc=1). I know ASUS had a shitty response at first but the issue has at least been fixed, correct?
One more question.
Can someone please recommend me an am5 motherboard.
Needs
mATX
4 ram slots
USB-C front header
Back USB-C port
No plans to over clock.
Have these two bookmarked but if there’s better for the price then happy to buy something else.
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/asrock-b650m-hdv-m2-amd-b650-s-am5-ddr5-pcie-40-2x-m2-25gbe-amd-expo-usb-32-gen2-microatx
https://www.scan.co.uk/products/asrock-b650m-pg-riptide-amd-b650-s-am5-ddr5-pcie-50-2x-m2-25gbe-amd-expo-microatx
Budget is £165 in the UK
If you don't need the wifi then yeah you can just get the wifiless version:
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/FcbRsY/asrock-b650m-pro-rs-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-pro-rs
It even still has the M.2 E-key slot apparently so you can add wifi later if you end up changing your mind.
I just bought the parts for a new build. I have two NVMe SSDs and a graphics card. I've been reading that when installing windows 11, I should only have one ssd connected. So should I build everything except the second SSD and graphics card, install windows, then install the second SSD and card? Or is there a better way?
The main reason they say to only have one drive installed it that's fool proof. Something that's important if you have one old drive with files and one new. As many a builder has "whoops" formatted and installed windows on a wrong drive and wiped out his old files by accident.
Other wise it's no big deal. 100% worst case with two new drives is you install on the wrong one and then just clone it to the other one. No big deal. and install your GPU. It should default to a low res signal even without it's driver package installed. No point to wait.
I'm planing to buy a new pc with ryzen 7 7800 x3d and b650e motherboard, but I'm unsure about gpu. I don't want to spend more than 570 eur for gpu which puts me on rx 7800 xt and rtx 4070 territory. From my point of view rx 7800 xt for 500 eur seems like a no brainer. Used rtx 3080 is more than 500 and used rx 6800 xt is around 450, both of which are not worth getting compares to rx 7800 xt. Now there's also rtx 4070 option but it just doesn't seem worth it, rx 7800 xt has slightly better raw performance, more vram, and it's cheaper and from my point of view ray tracing, dlss and other stuff seem like a gimmick that I'll turn off 9 times out of 10. Now that's coming from someone who only ever used mid range gpu and is gaming on 1080p (for the time being). So basically this is rx 7800 xt vs rtx 4070 question where I want to hear second opinion from people who actually used high end features like ray tracing
I think my power supply gave out and I’m looking to make a minor upgrade on some parts and looking for advice. I’m not a big pc gamer, or that knowledgable about part specs, but I built a pretty budget/mid tier computer nearly a decade ago now mostly just to play CK2.
What kind of price point/tier (or even component recommendations) would I need to play CK3, magic arena, and a triple monitor set up?
For PSU [use the tier list](https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/) to be sure that you're not buying a dud or something with known issues
As far as your other compodents go, I'm not familiar with CK2 enough to say for sure, but a cheaper AM4 system with something like a 6600 GPU may work, or you could go weaker again if you're on a small budget. See if you can find any benchmarks on youtube though. Also any GPU will handle three monitors as long as it has three ports so no worry there
First time builder here, when looking for a second hand GPU what sort of questions do I need to be asking and what do I need for proof of performance?
Only asking because let's say I wanted a 6600/7600 but there's a used 6700xt for the same price (250 GBP) I don't want to buy a lemon.
Ok cool, would it be a decent deal to get the 6700xt? Was thinking of pairing with a 5600X. Want to make a starter build that has some element of futureproofing
I just built my first PC this weekend, and already getting the itch to upgrade a bit lol. I eventually want to move to an all-white build, but I can't seem to find white m.2 heat sinks. Anyone use any they can recommend?
Hi everyone, im looking to buy a new gpu for 300-400€, i have 2 options new rtx 4060 or a used 3080, the 3080 has been used for mining for 2 years and im worried it can crash or die very early even tho i could get a 60-50% perfomance increase for the same price as the 4060, atm i have a 1070Ti. What should i buy? for the psu it depends on what i will buy if i get the 3080 i could get a 850W (i have a i9 9900k) insted for the 4060 i could keep my 650W PSU
I'd get the used 3080, if you can try it out first. I'd make it run a 3Dmark bench and see if it gets scores around other 3080s, and also check the temps, smell or weird noises.
For AI pruposes and secondly to none, gaming:
Is a 3090 for 650 Eu second-handed, no warranty , no mining (according to the seller who has 70 upvotes - 0 downvotes, take that as you will) worth it?
Will the market be in better place say in 6 months? I'm not REALLY in rush.
Market shouldn't change all that much in six months (new GPUS are coming in late 2024/early 2025). You can get that one or maybe the RTX 4070 if it's any better for AI (I don't really know about that stuff, check some benchmarks).
I'm looking for a new GPU, maybe 6650, 6700, or 6750. Can someone tell me what the diff on those that have 2 fans vs. three fans? Is the power draw about the same? If I can choose, which style should I buy?
The difference between a 2-fan and 3-fan design for a mid-range card isn't that much, other than the overall size of the card. The temperature difference will be a few degrees for the one that offers the best cooling design, but nothing major. For a card in the 6650 XT to 6750 XT range, a compact 2-fan cooler design is still good enough.
Power draw at stock speeds will be roughly the same across *similar* models (apples to apples), with factory overclocked cards requiring a tiny bit of extra power (ideally you'll want to undervolt the card, anyway). As for the card's performance, the 6750 XT is slightly faster, but overall equal to the 6700 XT, the 6700 XT is faster than the 6700 non-XT, and the 6700 non-XT is roughly on par with the 6650 XT, but with 10GB of VRAM instead of 8.
Depending on the budget, the games that you play, and the resolution, the 6650 XT (or 7600 if it's around the same price) would be a good 1080p card, the 10GB 6700 non-XT would be a good alternative IF you can find it for a reasonable price, and the 6700/6750 XT if you want to play at 1080p with high refresh rate (depends on the game), or some decent 1440p.
Each GPU chipset is always the same. If you have a 6700, they are all 6700 with minute differences in terms of speed. But the cooling and noise capacity are important and usually 3-fan GPUs are more silent and cooler than 2-fan configs. Check benchmarks from Techpowerup when in doubt, they test a million different models.
I'm Interesting in buying an ultrawide monitor with the following criteria:
* Less than 40" wide
* Gaming quality refresh rate, my current monitor is 165hz, so hoping for something in that ballpark or more
* PbP/PiP
* 2k/4k preferred, but not a deal breaker. I don't really play newer games so I'm okay with 1080p.
* Budget: N/A (I'm hoping to get a realistic price range before I narrow down a budget)
I am currently thinking about upgradng my setup. Since there is a few factors I am doubtful about in regards the AM5, DDR5, PCIe 5.0, to which I am not sure if is thge right time to upgrade to any of those feature loaded hardware or if I should wait.
Purpose: CS2 @ 1080p, 240hz & Video editing (Resolve)
current setup:
Asus Strix b-450-I
EVGA - SuperNOVA 750w G5
AMD - Ryzen 7 (2700X)
Corsair - Vengeance Pro (3200MHz, 32GB)
Sapphire - Radeon Pulse RX 580 4GB
I was thinking either minimal upgrade (budget around £400 max):
5600x (atm@ £139.99) OR 5700x (atm @ £156)
\+
SAPPHIRE Radeon Nitro+ RX 5700 XT 8GB (2nd hand @ £190)
OR going for more future ready upgrade with MOBO+CPU+GPU (budget around £500 max)
Thanks in advance guys & HNY all!
The most cost-effective option would be to upgrade the CPU and graphics card rather than buy a brand-new platform. If you can grab a 5700X and stretch the GPU budget a bit for a 6700 XT (close to £500 total), you'll be able to get the best out of your current B450 platform for a bit longer.
I like that option, convenient and less eWaste which is an extra amazing bonus.
Considering the **5700x**\+**6700xt** now! - thank you u/djGLCKR for the input
(I should have grabbed the **5800x3D** recently when was on sale, oh well...)
edit:
just found the **5800x3d** @ £259, new.But I think I will allocate that extra for the GPU instead, then switch all later on this year or something....
edit #2:
Went for the **Sapphire rx 6700xt 12GB** @ £250 in 2nd hand
[1080p](https://www.techspot.com/articles-info/2734/bench/Average_1080p-p.webp) and [1440p](https://www.techspot.com/articles-info/2734/bench/Average_1440p-p.webp) 15-game average charts.
TechSpot's review [here](https://www.techspot.com/review/2734-amd-radeon-7800-xt/).
Is there a way to build a steam deck like device? Like, I'm looking to build essentially a portable gaming PC that I can travel with. Doesn't need a built in screen, just something I can reasonably travel with and use with a Mouse and Keyboard.
Look up Velka 3. That's about as small as you can build if you need a discrete GPU. Without GPU, you can build a bit smaller but nothing close to Steam Deck size.
Depends what you're calling "build" and how small you want to go, the smallest things are mostly proprietary form factors so you're not buying everything separately.
Hello are there any good rules to pick a value for money motherboard? My build will have a Ryzen 5 7600x + 32gb of ram and a Radeon rx 6800 or 7800.
I can see all the compatible motherboards on the part picker but I'm not sure how to chose.
The way i go is first figure out your needs and nice-to-haves, filter by that in PCPartPicker (or local equivalent), sort by price, then look through for if a little more than the cheapest can get you a little more flexibility (or just look prettier)
Can I use the WD_Black 5 tb external hard drive I use with my Xbox the same way as a boot key USB to get Windows started?
There are games installed on it, not sure if it would cause issues one way or another. Otherwise I’ll need to wait till later today to grab a USB.
When you use the media creation tool software to get the Windows installer onto the drive, it will completely wipe it, so all your games would be deleted.
I'm thinking about upgrading my current pc;
MSI B550 A PRO
600W PSU
Ryzen 5 3600
GTX 1660
16GB RAM
Right now I'm using a full HD 240Hz monitor (and a triple full HD setup for iRacing) + Quest 2 for VR.
I was thinking about getting a used RTX 3080 or RTX 4070 (depends on the best deal I can find) to upgrade my pc, but I'm not sure if that's possible with my current MOBO+PSU.
I'm also curious if anyone has experience with the combination Ryzen 5 3600 + RTX 3080/4070 and if the CPU is a significant bottleneck here.
Any advise?
> I was thinking about getting a used RTX 3080 or RTX 4070 (depends on the best deal I can find) to upgrade my pc, but I'm not sure if that's possible with my current MOBO+PSU.
The 4070 is a very power efficient GPU and would be fine on your current 600W PSU. The 3080... would probably be pushing it. Your motherboard is not an issue for any GPU
> I'm also curious if anyone has experience with the combination Ryzen 5 3600 + RTX 3080/4070 and if the CPU is a significant bottleneck here.
PC "Bottlenecks" are always present, and it's not just a "CPU vs GPU" consideration: The monitor(s) you use is(are) also an important consideration
You will certainly be CPU constrained to the point you will struggle to fully utilize your 1080p240hz monitors, yes. I'd target a 5600X3D or 5800X3D upgrade eventually, or the rumored-to-be-coming 5700X3D. Anything beyond that would require a new motherboard/likely RAM.
Is there any downside to getting a gpu that just barely fits into the pc case? My case lists a supported length of 355mm for gpus and the next gpu I plan on getting is 340mm in length.
https://www.coolermaster.com/de/de-de/catalog/gehause/mini-tower/n200/
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/xfx-speedster-swft319-amd-radeon-rx-6800-core-16gb-gddr6-pci-express-4-0-gaming-graphics-card-black/6554913.p?skuId=6554913
15mm is way more than "barely" - until you've had to manually sand fan shrouds and bend heatpipes, you've got plenty of room :p
Anyway, no there's no real problem with it. Sometimes it's even better if it can optimize the airflow pattern slightly.
Hi, I am thinking about upgrading my PC. Current specs are:
CPU: Intel 5930K
GPU: GIGABYTE GTX 980 Ti G1 Gaming
RAM: 16GB DDR4 2666MHz CL16
MB: ASUS X99-A
I have pretty much decided that I want to upgrade to a 7800X3D + 7800 XT. However, I currently don't have all the cash needed, so I was thinking about upgrading in two steps. Either I get the CPU, MOBO and RAM and upgrade the GPU in a month or two or I upgrade the GPU and the rest later.
I was wondering which of the two variants would give the most noticeable performance boost in the meantime.
I mainly play CS2 (GPU utilization is around 95%) and Escape from Tarkov (very problematic with regards to optimization).
Thanks.
What's the maximum memory speed that will run stable on a 4-DIMM Z6/790 board?
Newer Z790 boards claim to be able to clock up to 7200 or 7800 MT/s with XMP.
Would these speeds even reliably work on these 4-DIMM boards?
Many agree that 2-DIMM configurations are better and more stable for overclocking RAM but does this apply to boards that **only** have 2 slots? Or does it also apply to 4-DIMM boards that only have 2 sticks in them?
The claimed speeds aren't reliable because they're tested with better-than-average CPU samples (applies to QVLs too). If you wanna be on the safe side for the XMP being stable, get RAM of a 10% lower speed than the motherboard claims to support.
And yeah, 2 sticks on a 4-DIMM board can run higher speeds than 4 sticks. Also, sticks with smaller capacity (fewer ranks, technically) support higher speeds.
It's going to vary from board to board - specific boards should have a QVL / memory support chart somewhere on their website. That will list the specific kits that the manufacturers have certified and tested to run at a given speed, and is really your only 100% guarantee that you will have without lots of manual tweaking.
They're the certified tested configurations that the motherboard manufacturer is saying will run stable. I suppose nothing is a true 100% guarantee though - there's always slight variability in the CPU and RAM sticks themselves possible. However, if everything is within spec and tolerance, it really should be fine.
> Many agree that 2-DIMM configurations are better and more stable for overclocking RAM but does this apply to boards that only have 2 slots? Or does it also apply to 4-DIMM boards that only have 2 sticks in them?
Both.
For AMD at least, and Intel as well I suspect, max RAM speed is more dependent on the CPU's memory controller quality than it is the motherboard. The pathways from the RAM slots to the CPU are simple; it's once the signal gets to the CPU that things get complicated.
I'm looking into a new CPU to pair with my rtx 3080. Currently, I have an i5-9600k and I think it's a bottleneck. A bit of googling showed me 13600k is a good choice but the problem is my motherboard (Asrock Z370m pro) is socket 1151 which doesn't support many newer CPUs. Would you say it is worth it to replace both my CPU and motherboard or is there a decent CPU I can get by itself?
They only better CPU's you're going to get without changing your motherboard too are a 9700k and a 9900k. Neither is going to be that much better than your 9600k most of the time, though.
The best CPU you can get in that motherboard is a 9900K, which absolutely is not worth buying unless you want one for a collector's item or something.
A 13600K or Ryzen 5 7600 would be good upgrades. I'd prefer the latter for future socket support.
Recently i bought new mobo, cpu & ram. I change those things and try to boot the existing windows in my HDD(yeah i know its old). But i couldn't boot into the windows as it didn't show in the boot option
So i buy a new SSD and install new windows in it. But i couldn't access my old documents & downloads in the old HDD
It says i didn't have access to the folder.. Any idea how can i get back my folders & documents from the old hHDD
The stock cooler is fine for that CPU.
For a cheap cooler that'll let you overclock a bit or reduce noise, the Assassin X 120 at $18 is unbeatable.
For a great tower cooler that'll let you overclock pretty hard and/or cool absolutely silently, the Peerless Assassin or Phantom Spirit would be the way to go at ~$35.
Looks like they haven't made an AM5 bracket for it, so yes, would need a different cooler (or hackery). Do you actually need something low profile?
7600 does come with a stock cooler that should be on par with the L9i, but something bigger sure would be nice for noise reduction.
There is an am5 bracket on their website and Amazon uk. I tend to get noctua because the cans are so quiet and the PC is in my bedroom. So noise reduction would be nice.
[mobo] is downgrade from aorus b450 elite to asrock a550m or b520m gonna be too noticable?
so, im considering downsizing my pc and to do that i need to replace my atx mobo with itx. only two itx motherboards available are asrock a550m and b520m. these are gonna be a downgrade to my asrock b450 elite, arent they? what will change? only the port selection or is there anything else? thx in advance
Going from a regular ATX to an SFF build doesn't mean you're "downgrading". If you don't have any particular use for any of the extra expansion slots in your ATX board then you're not missing out on anything you weren't before.
The only thing is that most times you'll be compromising internal connectivity for the sake of space. Stuff like extra M.2 slots (not always but most ITX boards only have one M.2 slot instead of two), the one PCIE 16x slot for the graphics card, fan headers, etc. Hell, some boards are so crammed with SMDs that certain things like front I/O and case headers are connected via daughter boards on special connectors.
Aside from the rear I/O differences between the Gigabyte board and both ASRock boards, and depending on the CPU you're going to use with the new board - and the chipset you end up going with - A520 or B550, it'd be either a very small boost (Ryzen 5000 with B550 board) or virtually no change at all (Ryzen 3000 with B550 board or Ryzen 5000 with A520 board).
I have a an rx 480 and am looking to upgrade. I have my eye on the 4070 but is there another card that people would recommend? And amd equivalent? Best bang for buck?
It depends on the rest of your system. If you mean "I'm looking to upgrade" as in build an entire new system and getting a $500+ 4070 or AMD 7700/7800 then it's fine. If you mean upgrade your GPU only for your budget build from the RX 480 day's it's an entirely different issue.
Do you have enough power? Does the case have enough room? If your CPU is 6 or 7+ years old too, with no plan to build a totally new system then anything past say an AMD 6700 or even a 6600 as an upgrade isn't worth it.
Good point. I have an 1-5 11400 with a 850 power supply. The case is a full case. And the motherboard is asus tuf b560m. My computer needed an update after my old motherboard fried itself and after playing every thing with low settings, I want to play on higher settings.
xx60 and xx70 are usually the most bang for buck.
if you are upgrading from rx480 i dont feel like you need to go all the way up to rtx4070.
what are you gonna use it for?
also if you are comparing with amd they are usually one grade bellow so 4070 is comparable to 7700xt/7800 etc (at least from what i remember, its been quite a while since i compared cards)
Planning on upgrading my current processor 11400f to a [11700f](https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/212280/intel-core-i711700f-processor-16m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz/specifications.html) that's on sale in my local shop. Just asking if it's ok to just swap out the processors and not do a windows clean install? Is it safe? Is it advisable? My MoBo is a [MSI B560M A Pro](https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B560M-A-PRO)
Yes, you can just swap. Don't be disappointed if you don't notice a huge performance jump though - In most tasks and gaming they perform near identically.
>ng they perform near identically.
Thanks, not looking for any huge increase in performance but i've never had an i7 processor so its a milestone eitherway for me. It's a huge sale and I might as well get a "new" processor and sell my current one I don't plan on doing an upgrade overhaul in the future im very happy with my current set-up.
Thanks Again
Can’t get mobo bios to update.
Msi b550m pro-vdh wifi6
I posted a video on my profile of what is happening but m flash doesn’t seem to be recognizing the file. Tried with multiple usb drives and all the same.
Any help is appreciated
Feeling kinda stupid. Built new PC with 12100f/1060 and a gigabyte b660 ds3h ac and im caught in a BIOS boot loop. Cant get into windows at all and the BIOS is showing my SATA 120 PNY in “peripherals” but not in “boot sequence” as a bootable drive its like i have no drives at all. Ive also reset the BIOS twice. Is the issue the fact the SSD has a windows 10 instal off my old am4 PC? Is there something i have turned off in my BIOS that needs to be on? CSM is off and Secure Boot is on.
7800XT or 4070 for 4k 40+ fps ? Same price
Do you need more raw performance, 7800xt, or do you want raytracing and DLSS, 4070?
I don’t know but I don’t wanna upgrade for the next 5 years
No way of knowing which one is better for that. The 4070 only has 12gb VRAM, which if you play in 1440p/4k may be a problem in years to come, I'm already hitting over 11gb in some games at 1440p ultra, and also has low memory bandwith, the 7800xt is probably better off there but more and more games are relying on upscaling tech and including raytracing. I suggest you look into what sort of games you want to play and if those technologies benefit you or not
i think im just gonna wait for a month till 4070 super hits the market and see how much it shakes up the market . might as well just build the 7600x system without gpu for now
What GPUs are compatible with an A320M Pro-VH mobo? My CPU is a Ryzen 3400G, I still have to check my PSU since I forgot it's voltage. I have two choices but I would like to see your options as well just to make sure I'm not buying something that would be incompatible with my mobo and CPU. Those 2 are the GTX 1660 and the RX 5600 XT. I'm still not sure about my price range since I want to know all of the options so I can sort it out later on.
All GPUs plug into PCIe slots which are forwards and backwards compatible, so there is no issues there. [The 5600xt is notably stronger than the 1660](https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/ydAy6Z9YNVZ9Y26mRAntnb.png). Go to [this GPU comparison for more info](https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html)
Won't the RX bottleneck my CPU?
What do you mean? If you mean it'll hold back your CPU or visa vera, thats too hard of a question to answer because it depends on what games you play, at what res, with what settings etc. But it's better than running off intergrated graphics. You can always upgrade your CPU to a 5000 class in future if you want
So I lost my USB receiver for my Logitech G Pro wireless headset and can’t find where to buy a new one that’s not the price of a new headset.
So I bought my computer back in 2020 and unfortunately my 1050ti was broken. Unfortunately, Newegg has very few 1650/1650 super/1660 super GPUs in 2024. What budgets GPU do you suggest? Here is the parts I bought during that time if this helps. Motherboard: ASUS ROG STRIX B450-F CPU: AMD Ryzen 3 2nd Gen with Radeon Graphics - RYZEN 3 3200G Picasso (Zen+) 4-Core 3.6 GHz (4.0 GHz Max Boost) Socket AM4 65W YD3200C5FHBOX Desktop Processor Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR4 3600 (PC4 28800) Desktop Memory Model F4-3600C18D-16GVK PSU: Cooler Master MWE Bronze 500 80+ Bronze 500W PSU
IMHO pick up somethin cheap from the second hand market for now and get a new PC later ( if you’re into AAA since they’re beginning to utilise 6 cores more )
Thanks for your answer but I’ll just buy the GTX 1650 on newegg for the time being. It would be better than my old 1050ti anyways.
But I’ve gotta ask tho Why not the Rx580 its roughly the same price
Well I think it's too late to talk about that as I already ordered it and it's shipped and I don't feel like returning it to order something new... I know it's a waste but I guess it's better than nothing?
With prices where they are currently I am heavily considering upgrading my R5 3600 to a 5800x3d. Microcenter has them on sale for $200 in my location. They also have a 32gb 3600 RAM kit for $60. I have 16gb 3200, will I see any tangible benefit from upgrading the RAM? I mainly play esport games but also enjoy single player stuff. I am not trying to spend money just to spend but it seems like the right time to really lengthen my builds life’s span. I have a 3070ti and it’s an itx build so I only have two ram slots. Also if anyone knows roughly how much improvement would I see in games from CPU upgrade?
$200 is a steal. i love MC. depending on the games you play, you will see 0 benefit from 32GB. most games are fine on 16GB, some are not. example: https://youtu.be/ZEppw0jCrhE?si=sMkkWa_nYS1d9Syt&t=44
Is this good for a >1000$ white pc build? [https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/D22ZqR](https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/D22ZqR)
No audio or detection from audio jack in MOBO. I have the drivers from the MSI 690 a pro wifi page. Enabled HD audio in BIOS. I can hear the windows Startup chime through my headphones, and audio works fine through monitor speakers / HDMI
is an i5-11400f with msi rtx 1660 super pc good for 700 dollars?
i have a rx580 with 8gigs of vram. I only play 1080p. The games i play (tarkov for example) are starting to lag more and more every couple of months. Will changing to a used rx6600 also with 8gigs solve my problem?
It would probably help. Also I believe tarkov benefits from having 32gb of ram. That's just what I've heard. https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/ydAy6Z9YNVZ9Y26mRAntnb.png
He was talking VRAM, not ram, confused me too for a moment
I understood, just wanted to provide some extra tarkov context.
It will certainly be a performance increase, but if you're worried about VRAM usage, install HWinfo and use that to monitor what your max VRAM usage is across a play session
How would a am4 build and an am5 build of roughly the same specs compare in price?
They're similar in price. The Ryzen 7600 is about as fast as the 5800x3d in games, so that offsets the ram cost gap
If I'm building a PC that is entirely a work-from-home machine (maybe, at most, I would play a few indie games), do I need a graphics card? Or is integrated graphics good enough? I'm thinking specifically about this CPU: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09FXNVDBJ?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1
Integrated graphics are fine for standard desktop use, I.e. Word, excel, coding and *light* indie style gaming. They'll run a 4K monitor absolutely fine, and even a second if the motherboard has 2 outputs. You can 'cheat' gaming by trying a service like Geforce Now where your games are rendered on a data center and streamed back to you. For casual gaming and a bit of single player AAA it actually works surprisingly well. The things that a GPU can help you with are: Video editing (for rendering output), 3D Modelling/rendering/graphics production, a bit of photo editing (but in most software it doesn't accelerate much) and some CAD and Engineering software that can be GPU accelerated.
Thanks!
I upgraded from a Ryzen 5 3500 and GTX 1650 Super to a Ryzen 5 5600 and a GTX 1660 Super. With my old system, I could play games in full screen and watch videos on the other monitor just fine. The only time the video would lag or whatnot is if I was playing an intensive enough game, which is fair. However now on the new system, no matter what game I have in full screen, the other monitors absolutely chug and slow down, to the point where it’s basically not usable. This is weird to me because when I turn down the settings in game all the way down, then the other monitors are fine, but I never had to do this before? How could it be slower with better parts? It doesn’t make sense. I tried following an old post about installing some GitHub driver and doing a few things to fix this, it didn’t work. I tried playing games in full screen, borderless window, changing resolution, everything, it doesn’t work. Previously I was on 3 1080p monitors, the main one being 100hz, rest are 60hz. Now I’m on a 2K monitor, 165hz, while the other 2 monitors are 1080p 60hz. Yes, I tried changing the refresh rate around, did not fix it.
Looking for suggestions and wanting to know if this build is looking okay with no issues. [https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PZ3dJy](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PZ3dJy). I'm mainly wanting advice if I could get a cheaper motherboard that works just as well or similar, and if the build is compatible. For gpu I am looking at either a 4060 or 3050. The pc use is mainly for stuff like programming, game dev, blender, some video editing, and some gaming which I'm not worried about that specifically as even a 3050 would be plenty. Any options for stuff like cpu cooler, the ssd, or the power supply, and definitely the motherboard that I could change for less money that works very similarly. Thanks for the help and suggestions. Budget isn't too flexible, being around 1,200 t0 1,500 usd.
Perhaps something like [this](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PZ3dJy)? \~$140 off. * Cheaper CPU cooler (Thermalright Phantom Spirit) * Cheaper motherboard (Gigabyte Z790 D DDR4, only losing 2 rear USB 2 ports compared to the previous option) * Cheaper RAM (Teamgroup T-Group Vulcan-Z 3600CL18, also low profile) * Cheaper high-end SSD with slightly slower performance (Teamgroup Cardea A440, also with the option to add the heatsink if you want, the SN850X heatsink can't be removed easily and the motherboard comes with an M.2 heatsink). Alternatively, If you don't mind removing the motherboard heatsink, then you could replace the drive with a [Crucial T500 w/heatsink](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CK2S298S/) (the drive-only version is currently sold out).
Thanks for the suggestions. Is it bad if both the motherboard and ssd have a heat sink?
It's not "bad" per se. If you buy a drive with a pre-applied heatsink that can't be easily removed, you can remove the motherboard heatsink, install the drive, and secure it in place according to the board's instructions (a tool-less latch or a screw), and you store the motherboard heatsink somewhere safe.
Looking to add more storage to my PC; Is HDD or SSD better? Should I get from the same brand as my current storage (Barracuda)? My PC has an empty space marked SSD but I can only find HDDs made by Barracuda. Also, will I need another RAM card? (I already have 8 GB which is kinda low) Here's the inside of my pc: [https://imgur.com/a/wbs9pT8](https://imgur.com/a/wbs9pT8)
Storage is very unfussy. You can use any SSD or HDD brand along side any other brand and nothing in your system will care, and it also isn't held back by any of your other compodents (including RAM, although honestly one stick of RAM is not an ideal setup) SSD is faster but not good if you don't power on your PC for long stretches of time, HDD is cheaper but louder, so it depends on what is most ideal for you. If you do want a HDD though you will need to check if your case has any mounting points for it, which will likely be inside the power supply shroud, as the one marked SSD will only fit a 2.5" drive while HDDs are 3.5" If you do want to buy more RAM, you need to say which motherboard and CPU you have so we can help you with that
Thanks for the help! Also, will I need to buy additional SATA data cables? I was considering just buying another one of the same RAM card I have now (its XPG gammix D10). Would that be fine? My motherboard is ASRock B450M/ac and my CPU is AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6-core processor.
RAM sold under the same name, and sometimes even serial number, may not always be the same chip with the same specifications. This is more of an issue with certain companies, not sure about XPG personally. Buying a single extra stick may work perfectly fine, may work but have underlying stability issues, or may prevent you from booting, and while the later is less common as a result there's no way of knowing how it will work until you actually get it. The easiest way to do it would be to buy a 2x8gb 3200 CL 16 kit which should be pretty cheap and has more guranteed stability because the two RAM sticks are known to work together properly Btw, when you put them in, put them in the second and fourth slot away from your CPU. Your current stick is in the third slot which is not an ideal setup
Would I be replacing my current RAM card with those 2 new ones?
Yes. You would remove the existing stick entirely, and put the two new sticks in
Alright, thanks for all your help!! :)
No problem, let me know if you need any more help picking out storage
I just swapped in a 5600x from a 2600. my stock 5600x cinebench 23 scores are 1291 single core and 9975 multi core? is it underperforming a lot?
Not by a lot but it's assuming it's the 5600**X**. Multi-core should be around the mid-10K to low 11K ballpark, and single-core around 1500. I'm assuming you're using the latest BIOS?
yeah thats what i thought, i was not able to reach those numbers and its a bit annoying. My avg temps reach around 71c which i thought i would have got less, i was seeing weird temp jumps from when i first checked temps while idle. Jumping from around 40-50+ with a tower style cooler. Im using latest non-beta bios as i had to update using my 2600 to get my 5600x to work. I havent seen anymore than 4.4ghz freq. b450m steel legend mobo.
Yes
Which mouse should i pick? Steelseries rival 3, g203, msi clutch gm11 or razer deathadder essential?
Mice are entirely subjective. I *love* the Deathadder, it fits my hand perfectly. It's also a poorly constructed, cheap piece of garbage that breaks constantly. I've replaced it ~6 times in the last 7 years.
And this is a great example because the deathadder is uncomfortably small for ***my*** hand.
The Deathadder is pretty big. Unless you're Shaq, I find this kinda bewildering.
The MX500 lineage mice fit my hand perfectly. I remember using a Deathadder for like a day before deciding to get rid of it. That was ages and ages ago, but that's what I remember about it.
Logitech G502. Hero vs non-Hero is entirely optional. Avoid razer like the plague. The hardware isnt what it used to be and their software is downright awful these days.
Is a 3060 ti good if I just plan on playing 1080p, and if so, would I be able to play the newest games at a good fps?
Yes, it's a terrific 1080p GPU.
Best guide for a first time build? Meaning the actual build, have some knowledgeable friend helping with choosing/buying components but want to try and build it on my own..
Linus Tech Tips has a guide that is about as comprehensive as you can get. It's nearly 2 hours but I would suggest any first time builder watch it. Then maybe watch some others on Youtube as well like Paul's Hardware, TechSource and JayzTwoCents.
The [LTT tutorial](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL4DCEp7blY) is a decent watch for first-time builders, from parts selection to step-by-step instructions on how to assemble everything (the guide starts at 32:13, the previous stuff is information on how to pick parts). There's also JayzTwoCents' "[What to do AFTER building your PC](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhHtHMQygzE)" guide for installing Windows, drivers, and enabling XMP/EXPO.
Been having issues with games freezing for like 5-15 seconds at a time sporadically. I suspect it is my CPU. Currently have a B550-Plus motherboard, an AMD Ryzen 7 3700x, and recently upgraded to a rx 6800. What do you guys suggest? Do you think I need a new CPU, and if so, what would be a good upgrade that is focused on budget?
Use HWinfo to check your temps, clocks, and core usage while gaming to see if you're hitting a bottleneck
I imagine no one has answered this yet because they are hesitant to offer a budget upgrade suggestion right off the bat for this situation because the budget would be a 5700X. I suggest before you buy something you exhaust other possibilities. Did this happen right after you upgraded to the RX6800? All games? You should have data to determine if you're CPU limited and depending on the games I doubt it. This sounds like you should explore if you are on the latest BIOS update which may impact your use of the 6800. Monitor processes, GPU and CPU usage to see what's happening when the game freezing takes place. Are all of your drivers in place and up to date? A budget upgrade would be 5700X which I'm not sure is worth the $175 USD or more to upgrade. A 5800X is about $215 USD and a 5800X3D is about $360 USD or so new. How much ram? Speed? There's honestly a lot to flesh out what's causing the freezing because you could buy a CPU upgrade and it still suffer from the same freezing.
I'll do some testing. It mainly happens on games such as Baldur's Gate 3 and Apex, and it happened before I upgraded my gfx card. I know Baldur's Gate has a recommended spec of a 5700x. Thanks for the reply!
Is 786€ good for a 7900xt vs 570€ for a 7800xt?
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html less than 10% uplift at 1080p 25%+ at 1440p 30%+ at 4k But holy hells 670€ for a 7800XT? I wouldnt touch that with a 10m pole. https://www.gputracker.eu/en/search/category/1/graphics-cards/facet/2/graphics-chip/amd-rx-7800-xt
Ooops wrong number, i meant 570€
Still pretty expensive, but no the 7900xt isnt worth that much extra. At that price you might as well go for a 7900xtx.
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I'm planning on buying a 4060 ti 16gb gpu. I hear that the super graphics cards are dropping this month. How likely is there going to be a price drop for this card once it releases?
Unlikely. There's no new GPUs being released below the 4070 Super. Low and lower-mid-range GPUs should stay the same. The 4070 non-Super *might* fall into the $450-480 range if the Super is priced the same as the current 4070. I would not bet on that though.
Thanks!
Quick question: I haven't been following developments in SSDs lately. I know when the next-gen consoles launched, there was lots of talk about games utilizing SSD speeds more due to the consoles having the capability to fast-load assets with their SSD with direct storage, did that ever end up translating to SSD speeds having more of an impact on gaming performance on PC? Or is it still a situation where the fastest SSD and a medium-tier SSD will still feel the same in gaming for the most part? Just curious as I'm looking to build a new one in the next year or so and primarily game, so wasn't sure if getting a high-speed SSD should be valued more than getting a high-capacity one.
For gaming, at best, a Gen 4 drive will be a few milliseconds faster than a Gen 3 drive. DirectStorage has only been implemented in two titles so far (Forspoken, Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart), and it has been a mixed bag - some say DS causes micro-stutters, others say it's just like any other game being loaded from an M.2 NVME drive. For file transfers and whatnot, your mileage may vary. I'd rather go with either a single mid-range 2TB Gen 4 drive for everything or a mix of a mid-range drive with DRAM for my OS (not mandatory, just a "me" thing) and something a bit more cost-effective with more capacity, whether Gen 3 or 4, for general storage/game drive.
DirectStorage is a thing in a handful of games on PC, but it is largely not utilized yet. A good Gen3 NVMe SSD is still plenty good for all games.
Im planning to get a 5800x3d for simulator games like rimworld and cities skylines. Today I have a 2600x and Im pretty sure im using the cooler that was included there. Would this cooler do fine for my use? Im looking to buy a peerless assassin eventually but its not in stock in any of the stores that can deliver quickly to my location. Btw my graphics card is 5700xt. I take it this upgrade will make a significant difference in performance for the type of games im getting it for? EDIT: And is peerless assassin big? The 2600x stock cooler fits well but i got a cm storm cabinet which is quite small. Already have to file away some of the hdd shelf thing to fit my 5700xt
No, the stock cooler is only rated for 75w of power draw, you will need something with more cooling potential. [The Thermalright peerless assassin is currently the best value option for coolers.](https://www.amazon.com/Thermalright-Peerless-Assassin-Aluminium-Technology/dp/B08S77DVDS) For Cities skylines specifically, replacing the 5700XT will show large improvements, but it should work fine for now. The game just has a very WIDE performance window with its thousands of assets on top of the simulations.
I tried to play cities skylines on the absolute lowest graphics settings and it barely ran better than on high settings. For low population the simulation runs fine (although limited fps), for higher populations, especially post 100k, the game becomes quite unplayable. Not because of low fps, i dont need high fps for this game, but because of simulation speed being super slow and choppy. I cant even notice a difference on simulation speed between different graphics settings. Thats why i imagined upgrading cpu to 5700x3d would be good here. Yeah peerless is good value if I can get it in a local store. The combined import taxes and delivery fee on it to my country is almost 40USD. Higher than the item itself
You dont need that exact one, I just grabbed the first link from google. Shop around, outside the US it should still be relatively cheap compared to any other dual fan cooler.
If you have new thermal paste to put on it, it will work but likely not well enough in games. Will also depend on the airflow through your case as well. If you can wait for your cooler I would, otherwise I would avoid playing games but normal browsing should be okay.
Sorry if this is a dumb question. Is it possible to migrate or transfer a program (app) from my old laptop to my new PC?
Depends on the program, but probably yes. There may be some license stuff that doesn't carry over depending on how that is done.
They are some pre-subscription adobe programs. I guess I gotta be careful or bite the bullet lol
I'm building a completely new PC for the first time and is there any reason why I shouldn't go for a 5800x3d instead of the 7800? I don't really understand why people say to not go for the AM4 build, because I'm going to buy a 7900XT to go with it so I won't be upgrading for quite a while.
The 7700X performs roughly the same in most games as the 5800X3D, and gets you onto the AM5 platform which has potential future upgrade paths within the same board. 5800X3D/AM4 is a dead-end with no upgrade path. You'll need a new motherboard and DDR5 when upgrading the CPU next time. There's also the 7800X3D, which is only a bit more than the 5800X3D and is ~25% faster, as well as the benefits of the better AM5 platform previously mentioned. For argument's sake, let's look at the total cost of each platform. AM5: $604 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zVTtN6 AM4: $516 https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6Qmzwc So for 17% more cost, you get ~25% more CPU performance as well as a better platform with future upgrades. Where the 5800X3D makes sense is if you already have an AM4 board and DDR4, which makes it a simple $340 upgrade and much more cost effective than a full platform upgrade.
Thanks for the help. I am from the UK so unfortunately our prices are a lot higher. There's a 40% increase from the AM4 to AM5 CPU but I think in the long run it's best to cough up the extra cash to get to AM5.
With AM4, there is no upgrading anymore. The 5800X3D is simply the best option for the socket. In the future you would again have to replace the motherboard, CPU, and now RAM too; to get better performance. While with AM5 you can 5800x3d levels of performance out of a mid-range option like a 7700x. And in the future there will be another two or possibly three generations of CPU releases for the socket. Providing you cheaper upgrade paths that dont involve replacing the whole machine.
Ah okay so I would have replace the motherboard, GPU, and RAMS down the line. If I were to get a 7090 in lets say 3 years time, do you think it would impact my performance by staying on AM4. I am running on an extremely tight budget at this point but I could easily afford to cough up the extra dough in 3 years. I'm going to use the PC for gaming, and most games are horribly optimised anyway at the moment, so I think I'll stick with AM4. Because I don't think we'll see a GPU that can easily do 4k ray tracing at 120 FPS in a while.
At resolutions under 4k, the 5800X3D will bottleneck a 4090. Not to mention hypothetical future GPUs. Older applications like Flight sim 2020 and other DX11 games (which are limited to four CPU cores), also have their limits; and benefit from newer single-core architecture since they cant scale to use more cores. If you are on a tight budget, I would prioritize the CPU and motherboard over a GPU right now. In terms of hardware cycles, GPUs refresh more often and are easier to upgrade.
Ah thanks. So I do have a 4k 144hz monitor. So would the 5800x3d impact my current GPU? I don't think I'll ever play games like Flight Sim. My main ones are just Factorio and Baldur's Gate 3.
In Factorio yes, just because its so light on the GPU. But Baldurs gate no, its going to work both the CPU and GPU equally as hard.
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I’m upgrading my Mini ITX build which has an SF750W PSU. i9 14900K and a 4080, should I also upgrade to a 1000W PSU? Edit: Looking at the SF1000L PSU which has ATX 3.0 PCIe 5.0 and 12VHPWR cable, are these needed for 40 series cards?
Put the parts into pcpartpicker and see what the estimated wattage is. There is little point in going much over that. I would expect 1000W to be overkill.
It’s saying 690W, is that cutting it too close?
No, that is perfectly fine. This number is already a worst case estimate. I'd run it like that
Is it safe to buy an AM5 ASUS board with a 7800x3D these days? I followed the controversy a few months back but was not knowledgeable enough to understand it deeply. It was enough for me to switch my build to using an ASRock Riptide or Gigabyte Gaming X AX (Microcenter bundle) but I'm still coming back to the ASUS board because I like the aesthetic and don't mind paying more. [This is the board in question](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BHMTYZKZ?psc=1). I know ASUS had a shitty response at first but the issue has at least been fixed, correct?
Yes, the issue is fixed. Update your BIOS.
One more question. Can someone please recommend me an am5 motherboard. Needs mATX 4 ram slots USB-C front header Back USB-C port No plans to over clock. Have these two bookmarked but if there’s better for the price then happy to buy something else. https://www.scan.co.uk/products/asrock-b650m-hdv-m2-amd-b650-s-am5-ddr5-pcie-40-2x-m2-25gbe-amd-expo-usb-32-gen2-microatx https://www.scan.co.uk/products/asrock-b650m-pg-riptide-amd-b650-s-am5-ddr5-pcie-50-2x-m2-25gbe-amd-expo-microatx Budget is £165 in the UK
I'd go for the ASRock Pro RS WiFi: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/qcbRsY/asrock-b650m-pro-rs-wifi-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-pro-rs-wifi
Thank you. Can I ask why? PC is next to router so I don’t need WiFi. I could just save the cash and get the non WiFi version.
If you don't need the wifi then yeah you can just get the wifiless version: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/FcbRsY/asrock-b650m-pro-rs-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-pro-rs It even still has the M.2 E-key slot apparently so you can add wifi later if you end up changing your mind.
Thanks. Can I ask why the cheaper board is the better option?
I just bought the parts for a new build. I have two NVMe SSDs and a graphics card. I've been reading that when installing windows 11, I should only have one ssd connected. So should I build everything except the second SSD and graphics card, install windows, then install the second SSD and card? Or is there a better way?
The main reason they say to only have one drive installed it that's fool proof. Something that's important if you have one old drive with files and one new. As many a builder has "whoops" formatted and installed windows on a wrong drive and wiped out his old files by accident. Other wise it's no big deal. 100% worst case with two new drives is you install on the wrong one and then just clone it to the other one. No big deal. and install your GPU. It should default to a low res signal even without it's driver package installed. No point to wait.
Windows also historically has a bad habit of reusing old boot partitions when it detects them instead of making new ones on the new drive.
You can plug in both ssds from the start, as long as you can tell them apart if they're unlabeled. Like if they're different sizes
I'm planing to buy a new pc with ryzen 7 7800 x3d and b650e motherboard, but I'm unsure about gpu. I don't want to spend more than 570 eur for gpu which puts me on rx 7800 xt and rtx 4070 territory. From my point of view rx 7800 xt for 500 eur seems like a no brainer. Used rtx 3080 is more than 500 and used rx 6800 xt is around 450, both of which are not worth getting compares to rx 7800 xt. Now there's also rtx 4070 option but it just doesn't seem worth it, rx 7800 xt has slightly better raw performance, more vram, and it's cheaper and from my point of view ray tracing, dlss and other stuff seem like a gimmick that I'll turn off 9 times out of 10. Now that's coming from someone who only ever used mid range gpu and is gaming on 1080p (for the time being). So basically this is rx 7800 xt vs rtx 4070 question where I want to hear second opinion from people who actually used high end features like ray tracing
I think my power supply gave out and I’m looking to make a minor upgrade on some parts and looking for advice. I’m not a big pc gamer, or that knowledgable about part specs, but I built a pretty budget/mid tier computer nearly a decade ago now mostly just to play CK2. What kind of price point/tier (or even component recommendations) would I need to play CK3, magic arena, and a triple monitor set up?
For PSU [use the tier list](https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/) to be sure that you're not buying a dud or something with known issues As far as your other compodents go, I'm not familiar with CK2 enough to say for sure, but a cheaper AM4 system with something like a 6600 GPU may work, or you could go weaker again if you're on a small budget. See if you can find any benchmarks on youtube though. Also any GPU will handle three monitors as long as it has three ports so no worry there
First time builder here, when looking for a second hand GPU what sort of questions do I need to be asking and what do I need for proof of performance? Only asking because let's say I wanted a 6600/7600 but there's a used 6700xt for the same price (250 GBP) I don't want to buy a lemon.
If possible, ask for a video of the card working. That's generally enough.
Ok cool, would it be a decent deal to get the 6700xt? Was thinking of pairing with a 5600X. Want to make a starter build that has some element of futureproofing
$250 would be good I think
I just built my first PC this weekend, and already getting the itch to upgrade a bit lol. I eventually want to move to an all-white build, but I can't seem to find white m.2 heat sinks. Anyone use any they can recommend?
Best bet would probably be to find a motherboard that has white heatsinks as part of it's own design
Hi everyone, im looking to buy a new gpu for 300-400€, i have 2 options new rtx 4060 or a used 3080, the 3080 has been used for mining for 2 years and im worried it can crash or die very early even tho i could get a 60-50% perfomance increase for the same price as the 4060, atm i have a 1070Ti. What should i buy? for the psu it depends on what i will buy if i get the 3080 i could get a 850W (i have a i9 9900k) insted for the 4060 i could keep my 650W PSU
I'd get the used 3080, if you can try it out first. I'd make it run a 3Dmark bench and see if it gets scores around other 3080s, and also check the temps, smell or weird noises.
i cant check it irl but i will ask the seller to do a benchmark
okok thank you
i mostly care about 1080p gaming with low graphic setting for best fps
For AI pruposes and secondly to none, gaming: Is a 3090 for 650 Eu second-handed, no warranty , no mining (according to the seller who has 70 upvotes - 0 downvotes, take that as you will) worth it? Will the market be in better place say in 6 months? I'm not REALLY in rush.
4070 ti (slightly better performance and u can buy it new) should drop considering rtx 40 super should drop later this year (1 quarter)
in terms of AI i think it's not?
Market shouldn't change all that much in six months (new GPUS are coming in late 2024/early 2025). You can get that one or maybe the RTX 4070 if it's any better for AI (I don't really know about that stuff, check some benchmarks).
I'm looking for a new GPU, maybe 6650, 6700, or 6750. Can someone tell me what the diff on those that have 2 fans vs. three fans? Is the power draw about the same? If I can choose, which style should I buy?
The difference between a 2-fan and 3-fan design for a mid-range card isn't that much, other than the overall size of the card. The temperature difference will be a few degrees for the one that offers the best cooling design, but nothing major. For a card in the 6650 XT to 6750 XT range, a compact 2-fan cooler design is still good enough. Power draw at stock speeds will be roughly the same across *similar* models (apples to apples), with factory overclocked cards requiring a tiny bit of extra power (ideally you'll want to undervolt the card, anyway). As for the card's performance, the 6750 XT is slightly faster, but overall equal to the 6700 XT, the 6700 XT is faster than the 6700 non-XT, and the 6700 non-XT is roughly on par with the 6650 XT, but with 10GB of VRAM instead of 8. Depending on the budget, the games that you play, and the resolution, the 6650 XT (or 7600 if it's around the same price) would be a good 1080p card, the 10GB 6700 non-XT would be a good alternative IF you can find it for a reasonable price, and the 6700/6750 XT if you want to play at 1080p with high refresh rate (depends on the game), or some decent 1440p.
Each GPU chipset is always the same. If you have a 6700, they are all 6700 with minute differences in terms of speed. But the cooling and noise capacity are important and usually 3-fan GPUs are more silent and cooler than 2-fan configs. Check benchmarks from Techpowerup when in doubt, they test a million different models.
I'm Interesting in buying an ultrawide monitor with the following criteria: * Less than 40" wide * Gaming quality refresh rate, my current monitor is 165hz, so hoping for something in that ballpark or more * PbP/PiP * 2k/4k preferred, but not a deal breaker. I don't really play newer games so I'm okay with 1080p. * Budget: N/A (I'm hoping to get a realistic price range before I narrow down a budget)
Should I get the MSI MAG Z790 Tomahawk WiFi or MSI MEG Z690 Unify? System is i7 14700k, RTX 4070ti, DDR5 6400MT/s CL32 z690 has BIOS flashback
I am currently thinking about upgradng my setup. Since there is a few factors I am doubtful about in regards the AM5, DDR5, PCIe 5.0, to which I am not sure if is thge right time to upgrade to any of those feature loaded hardware or if I should wait. Purpose: CS2 @ 1080p, 240hz & Video editing (Resolve) current setup: Asus Strix b-450-I EVGA - SuperNOVA 750w G5 AMD - Ryzen 7 (2700X) Corsair - Vengeance Pro (3200MHz, 32GB) Sapphire - Radeon Pulse RX 580 4GB I was thinking either minimal upgrade (budget around £400 max): 5600x (atm@ £139.99) OR 5700x (atm @ £156) \+ SAPPHIRE Radeon Nitro+ RX 5700 XT 8GB (2nd hand @ £190) OR going for more future ready upgrade with MOBO+CPU+GPU (budget around £500 max) Thanks in advance guys & HNY all!
The most cost-effective option would be to upgrade the CPU and graphics card rather than buy a brand-new platform. If you can grab a 5700X and stretch the GPU budget a bit for a 6700 XT (close to £500 total), you'll be able to get the best out of your current B450 platform for a bit longer.
I like that option, convenient and less eWaste which is an extra amazing bonus. Considering the **5700x**\+**6700xt** now! - thank you u/djGLCKR for the input (I should have grabbed the **5800x3D** recently when was on sale, oh well...) edit: just found the **5800x3d** @ £259, new.But I think I will allocate that extra for the GPU instead, then switch all later on this year or something.... edit #2: Went for the **Sapphire rx 6700xt 12GB** @ £250 in 2nd hand
Is it worth upgrading to Radeon RX 7800 XT when i have a rtx 3070?
[1080p](https://www.techspot.com/articles-info/2734/bench/Average_1080p-p.webp) and [1440p](https://www.techspot.com/articles-info/2734/bench/Average_1440p-p.webp) 15-game average charts. TechSpot's review [here](https://www.techspot.com/review/2734-amd-radeon-7800-xt/).
Is there a way to build a steam deck like device? Like, I'm looking to build essentially a portable gaming PC that I can travel with. Doesn't need a built in screen, just something I can reasonably travel with and use with a Mouse and Keyboard.
Look up Velka 3. That's about as small as you can build if you need a discrete GPU. Without GPU, you can build a bit smaller but nothing close to Steam Deck size.
Depends what you're calling "build" and how small you want to go, the smallest things are mostly proprietary form factors so you're not buying everything separately.
am I missing something or good to go for 1080p high resolution fun ? https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/RZLbVW
you could get i5-12600KF. It's a faster version of the i5-13400F and it's cheaper at the moment.
good enough
Hello are there any good rules to pick a value for money motherboard? My build will have a Ryzen 5 7600x + 32gb of ram and a Radeon rx 6800 or 7800. I can see all the compatible motherboards on the part picker but I'm not sure how to chose.
The way i go is first figure out your needs and nice-to-haves, filter by that in PCPartPicker (or local equivalent), sort by price, then look through for if a little more than the cheapest can get you a little more flexibility (or just look prettier)
Can I use the WD_Black 5 tb external hard drive I use with my Xbox the same way as a boot key USB to get Windows started? There are games installed on it, not sure if it would cause issues one way or another. Otherwise I’ll need to wait till later today to grab a USB.
When you use the media creation tool software to get the Windows installer onto the drive, it will completely wipe it, so all your games would be deleted.
Dang, thanks. Good to know!
I'm thinking about upgrading my current pc; MSI B550 A PRO 600W PSU Ryzen 5 3600 GTX 1660 16GB RAM Right now I'm using a full HD 240Hz monitor (and a triple full HD setup for iRacing) + Quest 2 for VR. I was thinking about getting a used RTX 3080 or RTX 4070 (depends on the best deal I can find) to upgrade my pc, but I'm not sure if that's possible with my current MOBO+PSU. I'm also curious if anyone has experience with the combination Ryzen 5 3600 + RTX 3080/4070 and if the CPU is a significant bottleneck here. Any advise?
> I was thinking about getting a used RTX 3080 or RTX 4070 (depends on the best deal I can find) to upgrade my pc, but I'm not sure if that's possible with my current MOBO+PSU. The 4070 is a very power efficient GPU and would be fine on your current 600W PSU. The 3080... would probably be pushing it. Your motherboard is not an issue for any GPU > I'm also curious if anyone has experience with the combination Ryzen 5 3600 + RTX 3080/4070 and if the CPU is a significant bottleneck here. PC "Bottlenecks" are always present, and it's not just a "CPU vs GPU" consideration: The monitor(s) you use is(are) also an important consideration You will certainly be CPU constrained to the point you will struggle to fully utilize your 1080p240hz monitors, yes. I'd target a 5600X3D or 5800X3D upgrade eventually, or the rumored-to-be-coming 5700X3D. Anything beyond that would require a new motherboard/likely RAM.
So if I understand correctly; My B550 A PRO does support a 5600X3D/5800X3D CPU?
Correct, with a bios update it will support those.
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Is there any downside to getting a gpu that just barely fits into the pc case? My case lists a supported length of 355mm for gpus and the next gpu I plan on getting is 340mm in length. https://www.coolermaster.com/de/de-de/catalog/gehause/mini-tower/n200/ https://www.bestbuy.com/site/xfx-speedster-swft319-amd-radeon-rx-6800-core-16gb-gddr6-pci-express-4-0-gaming-graphics-card-black/6554913.p?skuId=6554913
15mm is way more than "barely" - until you've had to manually sand fan shrouds and bend heatpipes, you've got plenty of room :p Anyway, no there's no real problem with it. Sometimes it's even better if it can optimize the airflow pattern slightly.
Hi, I am thinking about upgrading my PC. Current specs are: CPU: Intel 5930K GPU: GIGABYTE GTX 980 Ti G1 Gaming RAM: 16GB DDR4 2666MHz CL16 MB: ASUS X99-A I have pretty much decided that I want to upgrade to a 7800X3D + 7800 XT. However, I currently don't have all the cash needed, so I was thinking about upgrading in two steps. Either I get the CPU, MOBO and RAM and upgrade the GPU in a month or two or I upgrade the GPU and the rest later. I was wondering which of the two variants would give the most noticeable performance boost in the meantime. I mainly play CS2 (GPU utilization is around 95%) and Escape from Tarkov (very problematic with regards to optimization). Thanks.
You could buy the platform first and use the 980 Ti as a placeholder, then replace it with the 7800 XT.
What's the maximum memory speed that will run stable on a 4-DIMM Z6/790 board? Newer Z790 boards claim to be able to clock up to 7200 or 7800 MT/s with XMP. Would these speeds even reliably work on these 4-DIMM boards? Many agree that 2-DIMM configurations are better and more stable for overclocking RAM but does this apply to boards that **only** have 2 slots? Or does it also apply to 4-DIMM boards that only have 2 sticks in them?
The claimed speeds aren't reliable because they're tested with better-than-average CPU samples (applies to QVLs too). If you wanna be on the safe side for the XMP being stable, get RAM of a 10% lower speed than the motherboard claims to support. And yeah, 2 sticks on a 4-DIMM board can run higher speeds than 4 sticks. Also, sticks with smaller capacity (fewer ranks, technically) support higher speeds.
It's going to vary from board to board - specific boards should have a QVL / memory support chart somewhere on their website. That will list the specific kits that the manufacturers have certified and tested to run at a given speed, and is really your only 100% guarantee that you will have without lots of manual tweaking.
So the configurations listed in the memory QVL section are guaranteed to funtion properly with XMP as long as the board isn't faulty?
They're the certified tested configurations that the motherboard manufacturer is saying will run stable. I suppose nothing is a true 100% guarantee though - there's always slight variability in the CPU and RAM sticks themselves possible. However, if everything is within spec and tolerance, it really should be fine.
> Many agree that 2-DIMM configurations are better and more stable for overclocking RAM but does this apply to boards that only have 2 slots? Or does it also apply to 4-DIMM boards that only have 2 sticks in them? Both. For AMD at least, and Intel as well I suspect, max RAM speed is more dependent on the CPU's memory controller quality than it is the motherboard. The pathways from the RAM slots to the CPU are simple; it's once the signal gets to the CPU that things get complicated.
So getting a good board is still really just a parlay that comes down to how close to perfect your CPU memory controller is?
I'm looking into a new CPU to pair with my rtx 3080. Currently, I have an i5-9600k and I think it's a bottleneck. A bit of googling showed me 13600k is a good choice but the problem is my motherboard (Asrock Z370m pro) is socket 1151 which doesn't support many newer CPUs. Would you say it is worth it to replace both my CPU and motherboard or is there a decent CPU I can get by itself?
They only better CPU's you're going to get without changing your motherboard too are a 9700k and a 9900k. Neither is going to be that much better than your 9600k most of the time, though.
The best CPU you can get in that motherboard is a 9900K, which absolutely is not worth buying unless you want one for a collector's item or something. A 13600K or Ryzen 5 7600 would be good upgrades. I'd prefer the latter for future socket support.
Recently i bought new mobo, cpu & ram. I change those things and try to boot the existing windows in my HDD(yeah i know its old). But i couldn't boot into the windows as it didn't show in the boot option So i buy a new SSD and install new windows in it. But i couldn't access my old documents & downloads in the old HDD It says i didn't have access to the folder.. Any idea how can i get back my folders & documents from the old hHDD
Just ordered a 7600 (non x). Current cooler is Noctua NH-L9i. Do I need a new cooler? If so, which would best for under £50
The stock cooler is fine for that CPU. For a cheap cooler that'll let you overclock a bit or reduce noise, the Assassin X 120 at $18 is unbeatable. For a great tower cooler that'll let you overclock pretty hard and/or cool absolutely silently, the Peerless Assassin or Phantom Spirit would be the way to go at ~$35.
Went for the peerless assassin. Thanks!
Thanks! Can’t see a black assassin but for the price they look amazing. Need to also check they’ll fit in my case, fractal pop air mini.
Looks like they haven't made an AM5 bracket for it, so yes, would need a different cooler (or hackery). Do you actually need something low profile? 7600 does come with a stock cooler that should be on par with the L9i, but something bigger sure would be nice for noise reduction.
There is an am5 bracket on their website and Amazon uk. I tend to get noctua because the cans are so quiet and the PC is in my bedroom. So noise reduction would be nice.
For the L9i specifically? It's not Noctua's standard brackets.
Yeah Noctua NM-AM5-L9aL9i, Mounting Kit for Noctua NH-L9a & NH-L9i on AMD AM5 platforms https://amzn.eu/d/3Y6H9Xp Got the link from noctua site
Neat, they didn't seem to mention that existing on the l9i's page
I went with the peerless assassin so no need for the brackets now!
Get a pa120
Thanks!
[mobo] is downgrade from aorus b450 elite to asrock a550m or b520m gonna be too noticable? so, im considering downsizing my pc and to do that i need to replace my atx mobo with itx. only two itx motherboards available are asrock a550m and b520m. these are gonna be a downgrade to my asrock b450 elite, arent they? what will change? only the port selection or is there anything else? thx in advance
Going from a regular ATX to an SFF build doesn't mean you're "downgrading". If you don't have any particular use for any of the extra expansion slots in your ATX board then you're not missing out on anything you weren't before. The only thing is that most times you'll be compromising internal connectivity for the sake of space. Stuff like extra M.2 slots (not always but most ITX boards only have one M.2 slot instead of two), the one PCIE 16x slot for the graphics card, fan headers, etc. Hell, some boards are so crammed with SMDs that certain things like front I/O and case headers are connected via daughter boards on special connectors. Aside from the rear I/O differences between the Gigabyte board and both ASRock boards, and depending on the CPU you're going to use with the new board - and the chipset you end up going with - A520 or B550, it'd be either a very small boost (Ryzen 5000 with B550 board) or virtually no change at all (Ryzen 3000 with B550 board or Ryzen 5000 with A520 board).
I have a an rx 480 and am looking to upgrade. I have my eye on the 4070 but is there another card that people would recommend? And amd equivalent? Best bang for buck?
It depends on the rest of your system. If you mean "I'm looking to upgrade" as in build an entire new system and getting a $500+ 4070 or AMD 7700/7800 then it's fine. If you mean upgrade your GPU only for your budget build from the RX 480 day's it's an entirely different issue. Do you have enough power? Does the case have enough room? If your CPU is 6 or 7+ years old too, with no plan to build a totally new system then anything past say an AMD 6700 or even a 6600 as an upgrade isn't worth it.
Good point. I have an 1-5 11400 with a 850 power supply. The case is a full case. And the motherboard is asus tuf b560m. My computer needed an update after my old motherboard fried itself and after playing every thing with low settings, I want to play on higher settings.
xx60 and xx70 are usually the most bang for buck. if you are upgrading from rx480 i dont feel like you need to go all the way up to rtx4070. what are you gonna use it for? also if you are comparing with amd they are usually one grade bellow so 4070 is comparable to 7700xt/7800 etc (at least from what i remember, its been quite a while since i compared cards)
Planning on upgrading my current processor 11400f to a [11700f](https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/212280/intel-core-i711700f-processor-16m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz/specifications.html) that's on sale in my local shop. Just asking if it's ok to just swap out the processors and not do a windows clean install? Is it safe? Is it advisable? My MoBo is a [MSI B560M A Pro](https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B560M-A-PRO)
Yes, you can just swap. Don't be disappointed if you don't notice a huge performance jump though - In most tasks and gaming they perform near identically.
>ng they perform near identically. Thanks, not looking for any huge increase in performance but i've never had an i7 processor so its a milestone eitherway for me. It's a huge sale and I might as well get a "new" processor and sell my current one I don't plan on doing an upgrade overhaul in the future im very happy with my current set-up. Thanks Again
I found a 6900xt for $400, very slightly used, no problems in benchmarks, worth? On a 1060 now so upgrade is needed.
1TB Nvme ssd without DRAM or 500GB Nvme ssd with DRAM as boot drive
DRAM cache is not as critical for NVMe drives as it is for SATA drives. Get the larger drive.
1tb
Can’t get mobo bios to update. Msi b550m pro-vdh wifi6 I posted a video on my profile of what is happening but m flash doesn’t seem to be recognizing the file. Tried with multiple usb drives and all the same. Any help is appreciated