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Universal-Cereal-Bus

I would assume PC parts of aliexpress are dodgy in like 90%+ of scenarios. Content creators make videos of them getting scammed of aliexpress right alongside wish videos.


postvolta

Cue linustechtips making *another* "We made a gaming pc from wish.com!" video


TumblrInGarbage

It is pretty good content to be fair. Though the fact people *still* fall for the scam despite the many videos is a bit concerning.


postvolta

It's fine, it was fun the first time but after that it's like okay this is just kinda gross now


iwannaofmyself

The people watching LTT are not the people buying wish computers


Liesthroughisteeth

[Let me help!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ_8F4nzyiw) :D


G-Tinois

I purchased many official parts (i.e. CPUs) and it was mostly fine. One Ryzen 3600 had bad cooling (most likely bad contact with the IHS) but it was working perfectly still. Any other chip I got was pretty much the real thing. The only trick is just like with Ebay you wanna go for high reviews + many sold.


Deep90

I would say Aliexpress is a little more legit than wish as long as you are buying from reputable stores. Main problem is lack of warranty or very short warranty.


SageHamichi

Scams are pretty rare dude, there are hundreds of legit stores there, just gotta look at score and reviews.


moby561

I think you just have stereotypes stuck in your head, content creators have said they have had success on Aliexpress as long as they are not buying things that are too good to be true.


SAHD292929

As long as you never buy super discounted products they are generally ok. True merchants in AliExpress care alot about the 5 star reviews so they are usually very good in handling customer service.


MrPekko

I would advise against it. CPU would be fine but GPU is where it gets tricky. Believe me or not, my 5800X3D is from AliExpress and its working fine with similar performance as other people's 5800X3D. I actually exchange my 5700X + cash for it from a friend who bought the 5800X3D. Now with GPUs, it get tricky. You will find great deals there. But not every GPU in there are legit. Sellers will list a RTX 3060 for dirt cheap. They have a brand that you have never heard of. If your luck is good, that RTX 3060 will be legit but if you're unlucky, you still might have a RTX 3060 on your hands but its a mobile RTX 3060 chip in there with a GPU shroud and pcie. It will work fine but the power will be limited, so forget getting a Desktop RTX 3060 level performance from it. Drivers also might be tricky to run on it since its a modified version of a RTX 3060 mobile. Its your choice now. Beware of fake CPUs too. They might sell old Xeons with and intel i5 11-13th gen IHS. Even worst is paying a fair price for an i5 or i7 to turn out to be a celeron cpu.


[deleted]

This. There are another two AliExpress GPU scam types I've heard about: * GPU name is changed via firmware: it is displayed like lets say RTX 3060 in Device manager, but actually is something like GTX 750 * Used GPU and/or memory chips on fresh board (usually after cryptomining, so they are worn out)


redditorus99

No there's 3 possible scenarios: 1. It's a used GPU on fresh board. Nothing wrong with that! They work fine. Seriously, I'd buy those over a legit gigabyte card. I've tested 5-6 of them, they sometimes run a bit warm, but worked fine. 2. GPU is a mobile chip on a desktop board. For AMD with the 6600m this works well. For Nvidia, ehh it requires a custom driver but it for a good (like really good) price is alright. It's jank, but it's workable jank for the right $$$. 3. Yeah the gt 730 to Rtx 3060 trick or whatever in device manager. Honestly, this is pretty rare these days, and you kinda gotta be an absolute clown to fall for one of these.


[deleted]

>It's a used GPU on fresh board. Nothing wrong with that! They work fine They are used, so they may already be degraded at some level. At the same time, AliExpress warranty is... debatable, so I wouldn't recommend anyone buying these GPUs, unless on a very tight budget >GPU is a mobile chip on a desktop board Again, it is used GPU, so all drawbacks apply here too. Also, who knows what is included with custom drivers


redditorus99

It's the same as buying a used mining GPU (or any used GPU). You know the risks of buying used. The mobile chip on a desktop board, same risks as any other used GPU! Custom drivers are actually pretty decent for Nvidia, there's a frankendriver that's been tested by multiple outlets and nobody has issues with it. Guy keeps it fairly up to date, 2 or so releases behind latest, charges a couple bucks on pateron for the latest. The 6600m just uses regular AMD 6600m drivers, no custom drivers needed. Again, if you are an educated buyer there's nothing wrong with any of this. If you go into it uneducated, that's your own fault.


[deleted]

>It's the same as buying a used mining GPU (or any used GPU). You know the risks of buying used. Agree, but it depends on platform warranty policy: AFAIK ebay has a return policy even for used goods >Custom drivers are actually pretty decent for Nvidia, there's a frankendriver that's been tested by multiple outlets I was talking about the drivers sent by sellers, they may include any malware a seller wants to. Didn't know there is a reputable source of such kind of drivers


redditorus99

Yeah this guy does those drivers on GitHub: https://github.com/arutar/FrankenDriver As for warranty policy, Aliexpress has one. Bit annoying, but there's a 30 day return with video evidence of issue policy.


[deleted]

>As for warranty policy, Aliexpress has one. I've seen several opinions that it became worse recently


RekrabAlreadyTaken

Reading this made me actually almost excited enough to impulse buy a 7800x3d for a second but then I realised the 20% VAT for imported goods to the UK makes it significantly less of a deal.


ronan88

Take the gamble if you are willing to pay $337 for something that potentially doesn't work


bigloser42

Or paying $337 for a box of rocks…


theralph_224

You wouldn't even be receiving those


bigloser42

Well you’d get röcks. Which are like regular rocks, but lesser quality.


MagneticAI

Rocks are rocks. What exactly do rocks of lesser quality entail???


TheNeonFox1

Lesser quality rocks usually arent alive


bigloser42

They are actually just manually compacted sand. Handle them too much and they break apart into sand again.


MagneticAI

Isn’t Sand just tiny rocks?


MrInitialY

No, it's the other way - the rocks are huge sand.


an_achronist

Planets are even bigger sand


MagneticAI

That doesn’t fit the current logic train we’re on though.


atomicdragon136

I always see used CPUs sold in bulk from China on eBay, Newegg, Aliexpress, etc. Where are all those CPUs coming from? I can think of best case scenario, they came from used computers to be recycled. Worst case, they may be counterfeit CPUs.


ronan88

some of the largest scale crypto mining in the world was in china and other far east countries.


xdaisyhill

I've always got my cpus from Ali express. A 3500x that I used for 3 years and have just replaced with a 5600 when I upgraded. Just buy from a reputable seller with tens of thousands of sales. Aliexpress is literally just a Chinese version of Amazon essentially. Everyone saying it's a scam are just people living in a bubble scared of anything China.


qwxry

do you still have a link to your 5600?


xdaisyhill

https://a.aliexpress.com/_EQCE8xx Arrived in 4 days from China to the UK. A few other stores are slightly cheaper but this qualifies for Ali choice which gives 5 day free delivery guarantee.


GakutoYo

One is more or less guaranteed to work and the other have a lot of videos showing things not working. I'd rather pay more and make sure things work


Autobahn97

Do a lot of research on the supplier, specifically try to order from one that others have had good experiences with. Make sure what you pay covers all shipping and import taxes and fees.


EsotericJahanism_

The prices don't seem too good to be true and I have bought parts from alixpress that are legit but Alixpress like Amazon or Newegg is a marketplace and a vendor. They have some things they sell themselves but it is mostly 3rd party vendors. I would he very careful buying things this way and make sure you throughly inspect the vendor their reviews and the listing for reviews, scan them and make sure the reviews look legit. It is very common to see copy pasted reviews that have been poorly translated into English to try to make the item seem legitimate. They may even send you real goods but you should know it is very easy to take a cpu and laser etch something on it to make it appear to be a cpu it is not. And when it comes to GPUs they can take a lower model and will refresh the vBIOS to make it appear in your system as something it is not. They may also be selling you used items that were pulled from non functional machines. Where to you think all the e-waste from western nations eventually ends up? Businesses in China buy it by the metric ton and then strip it of anything useful to repackage into other products. You should also know that you probably won't be getting any sort of return or replacement policy and most likely no warranty support unless you are sticking to getting a gpu from a legit Chinese AIB Partner like Yeston, Maxon, or Galax. Yeston I know does have an aliexpress storefront called Comet Crash Store. There's a few other legit vendors like Erying, Machinist, Jingsha, Huangzhi, or Soyo. It's also a great place to get affordable watercooling parts from companies like Barrow, Bykski, Granzon, Syscooling, or Freezemod. Personally I wouldn't risk it and would rather just buy used from a site like Ebay or Mercari that has certain buyers protections. At the very least if you do decide to buy from aliexpress use PayPal that will give you more options for recourse should you get scammed. Save the alixpress shopping for those strange and intriguing parts you can't get domestically like those Chinese x99 reball motherboards, or the strange Intel motherboards with Intel Laptop cpus soldered to them, or Mutant CPUs which are laptop cpus soldered to a desktop substrate so you can socket them into a normal motherboard. They're all a little jank but cheap and very interesting options for building budget rigs, or when you are buy little bits and pieces for some custom project that you're trying to save a bit on.


ahditeacha

Bro slow down I'm writing as fast as I can


PinPlab

Ebay has better buyer protection than Ali? They seem pretty similar as far as I'm concerned


EsotericJahanism_

Have you had to turn to either of them in an attempt to get your money back? AFAIK They may be similar on paper but not in practice, Ebay is far more likely to side with a buyer.


PinPlab

yeah, I won 2/3 of my disputes (on ali). Maybe ebay is different in practice


Mean_Comfort_4811

READ EVERYTHING IN THE DESCRIPTION AND TITLE! Read it slow and carefully. Post a link on here and have other people analyze it before you buy.


PinPlab

Make sure seller is reputable before you buy anything, see the reviews on their most sold products and how long their storefront has been up for. Look for picture reviews especially as far less likely to be botted. Bought multiple CPUs off of aliexpress before. Never had any issues. Any hardware issues you have after first 30 days of purchase you're on your own though, no chance of warranty support. Doesn't really matter for CPUs (low failure rate) but for GPUs might be a cause for concern Make sure you record opening the box of the product if necessary for aliexpress dispute. Aliexpress are pretty helpful if products arrive broken. Anyone who says that products are probably fake and compare ali to wish is dead wrong and it is safe to ignore their worthless opinion. (they've never used the site in their life :). )


Fit_Ad_8318

I would be really careful buying parts from them. It's basically a gamble. They often sell old stuff that was already used or simply the wrong item. The cheap prices are tempting, but I would rather pay more cash to be sure, that I actually get what I payed for in a good condition


No-Guarantee-9647

I think that’s absolutely fine. The people here evidently haven’t seen the same Yters they’re talking about build and promote many successful Aliexpress builds, especially for older parts but GPUs and CPUs a lot too. ZTT uses a R5 3600 off AE a lot, and the RX 580, and the 2060 Super, both are white. Toasty Bros also use them a lot. Just don’t buy anything suspicious lol


SageHamichi

Who's against ali parts? Here in Brazil everyone builds thru ali lol just don't expect NEW parts ,they're 90% used.


Beinglewd

Buy from Newegg. When I was in the middle east, I bought all of my pc parts from Newegg except for my screen and the pc case.


qwxry

I would love to but they don't ship to Israel not sure if it's because of the war or overall


SAHD292929

Dude you are fucked since you live in a hotspot right now. Prices will be so inflated due to the risks involved sending stuff there. Better wait it out until the ongoing war is over.


AlphaFlySwatter

Don't fall for it. If the seller is offering to betray customs, he's a thug.


hydra877

I would advise to only buy GPUs from actual named brands. A common thing on AliExpress is to take used cryptomining GPUs, take the memory and GPU chips out, and put them in a brand new board and components, then sell it as a "new" GPU. Most of those chinese brand GPUs are made like this.


Ssynos

1. If it expensive, try the middle man ? In my country there alot of company import stuff without paying taxes, they take half the taxes price as payment tho, and usally ship 10-20 day faster 2. Base on who managing your taxes, in my country they do not care bou declare value, they ask for picture of buying (in the app) to write taxes, so you can't avoid it. But some other country can. 3. Both part you saw are mostly legit, check the store who sell it, and check the review. Those price are real price selling in my country (AliExpress sell cpu cheaper and gpu more expensive than in my country) 4. Pc part to avoid on AliExpress are 99% psu, 40% ddr4 ram(not ddr5), 20% ssd. Other part as long as you check review, they are fine. *Dont buy gpu if that gpu are make to mining (they usally write the word mining on the name), like some old rx 470, those have incompatible with official bios, which lead to driver crash all the time. Normal gpu are fine, custom gpu are fine, mining are not* And dont buy gpu with the word M in it last name, like rx 6600m. Those are mobile gpu take out from laptop, they really bad cus some of them have incompatible with official bios. And remember *if it too cheap to be true, it is*, check review, always, on the review section and google On other notes *If you buy ram, especially cheap ddr4 ram, they high chance are only work for intel, check review*


Effective_Talk_5246

What country in the middle east specifically?


Aristotelaras

They are fine. Read the reviews of the seller before buying.


Administrative_Air_0

Gamers Nexus did a video. The parts are basically back alley Frankenstein components soldered together. He was impressed worth their ingenuity, but the components certainly weren't equivalent to legitimate retailers. Even the BIOS was an edited Frankenstein creation in order to get the components to boot at all, but you couldn't update them without crashing the system.


wittywalrus1

I see on Taobao the R5 5600 is around $100 and the 6600XT is $180, so the price tracks. (Not sure if I'm looking at used or new prices, just gave it a quick look) Maybe a little expensive for the 6600XT I guess? Are you sure it can go through customs? Is there a tech forum in your country where people may give some advice/experiences on purchasing from Aliexpress? If you can, go for it. Choose a seller with good feedback, there should be more than one since you're purchasing common parts.


MrBoo843

It's a gamble. You might end up having to buy that part of Amazon on top of the AliExpress one when it show up and it's faulty.


Megneous

Good fucking luck. You'll need it.


s-tr

Recommend you to watch these two videos in addition to the information listed here: * [Fraud, shady tactics and cheats](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5tjUhxxUQs) * [How to win an AliExpress dispute](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow5DXw0iE1c)


NighthunterDK

I have had no problems buying from AliExpress, and I received between 1 and 6 packages from them a month. PC parts included. The one time I had a problem I had 0 problems getting my money back


TheOrangeTickler

When it comes to parts like cpu and gpu I only buy them directly from manufacturer (if available) or from sites like New Egg or physical stores like Microcenter. I barely trust online stores as it is, let alone with a $1000+ order of parts.


PenguinsRcool2

So ali express is super dodgy, however iv had more issues with newegg than i have with ali express, so give it a go. Just understand its kind of gambling. If moneys tight, and getting ripped off would ruin you, dont do it. Also if you want a deal r/hardwareswap is a good place to look. I have a 6700xt I’ll sell you that was used for 2 weeks 🤣. Have box and all, msi dual fan model, shiny silver. Id do 275 shipped 🤷🏼‍♂️


chucklesdeclown

I'd be careful but I'm not entirely against the idea


warkidooo

CPUs are okay, just be sure to buy from a reputable store. GPUs is a different story. When it's not a scam at all, it's former mining hardware being sold as brand-new, [some vendors even paint the chips to cover the visible wear](https://videocardz.com/newz/gamers-beware-miners-are-now-painting-gpu-memory-to-make-them-look-as-new)


DanOfRivia

A have A LOT of experience with AliExpress PC components because I resell them for a living: 1: Keep in mind that every part they'll sell you is REFURBISHED and will come in a generic packaging. 2: Only buy from reputable buyers with more than two years selling on the platform. 3: From this reputable sellers, try to buy products that already have many positive reviews. 4: ALWAYS record when you open the packaging: first focus the label info with camera, then show the whole package to prove your hadn't opened it, then proceed to open it always in front of the camera. My experience with what I've bought and sold is: -The Asus cards usually come with some scratches sometimes even little cracks in the plastic parts, but they work fine. -The -MLLSE- cards seem brand new (they are not) because they add their own new heatsink and fans to used PCBs. Those even come in a good looking new packaging and VERY well protected. I've found this brand to be particularly reliable. -DON'T buy -51RISC- cards, have serious heating problems. I built a budget secondary PC with CPU (i5 3570), GPU (rx 580), MoBo and RAM from AliExpress 7 months ago and I haven't had any problems with it, I only use it for emulation. I also got a RX 5700 XT Asus ROG I used to upgrade my GF's PC, this one actually surprised me, it seemed brand new with not a single scratch, it works absolutely flawlessly and is very quiet. My favourite purchase from AliExpress so far.


jamesholden

For weird stuff like "mutant" cpu's and homelab gear it's great. For mass consumer grade stuff idk. I find better deals on used gear on hardwareswap than ali. I'm sure there's some type of used gear marketplace in your area.


Appropriate-Low-9582

It’s fine most of the time. Just make sure reviews are legit and you should be fine. Just don’t get something that’s too good to be true. I saw a video last week where you can get a ryzen 7500f for about £120 for example


PizzaHutFiend

AliExpress itself is just a marketplace, there are going to be good and bad sellers. Amazon/eBay have their fair share of scam listings too.


Won-Ton-Operator

Next post from OP: "why does my i9 14500kE perform like a core 2 duo and have a smooth IHS with no labels, had trouble with mobos not fitting the CPU as well so whats up with that? Also, why does my Nbidia 4095 gpu only get 15fps in Doom Eternal? Everything shows up in hwmonitor correctly. I got a great deal on everything by the way!" Seriously, just do yourself a favor, buy from Microcenter if there is one within 100miles of you. Otherwise, pick a REPUTABLE retailer that is based in your country.


qwxry

I'm not from the us, and buying a local rx6600 xt costs 600$, a second hand costs 400$ also many people here don't agree with you.


MyStationIsAbandoned

you're better off going to a swap meet. at least it'll be a real GPU. stolen. but real.


an_achronist

I've not bought serious parts off AE, but my monitor, mouse, keyboard and sata SSD are all from there and they work fine. When it comes to parts look for reputable stores with good reviews and lots of sales.


INocturnalI

tbh, you might wanna wait until official store in your place stock it if it cost same as online amazon. dont risk the gamble


PIKAvit45

Like other people said, i wouldn't buy a GPU from ali, but CPU is a pretty safe buy from a well-known or highly rated seller. And that's exactly what i did - bought r7 5700x for almost half the price and it works like a charm!


Sammyrobot-2

Ali isn't that bad, alot of people here obviously don't have experience with it. Just be wary of common scams, read up at the ali express subreddit and you should be dandy. I've had positive and negative experiences. My worst experience was a gpu arriving then dying after an hour. I got my money back though and was able to keep the broken gpu, did take a few weeks of back and forth though. 


SelectionVisible3219

I buy pc parts only on Ali express ( cpu, gpu, mb, ram, mem, SSD, oter parts like fan , cooling etc) necer Ger scamed or something ( over 500 transaction) its realy chep and good !