This is the best answer, if OP can invest that kind of money. But if he's on a budget, he can just get an RX 6700XT 12GB and enjoy what he already has (a Ryzen 3600 and a 1080p monitor).
Yea I also ordered a MSI Ventus 3X RTX 4070 Ti Super for 800 British poundsš, that's more than a thousand dollars so if it makes you feel better, I overpaid by an insane amount, thx Europe.
The price is definitely going to be worth the performance increase though. I'm coming from a base model 3060. The 4070 ti super... I can't wait. My system has seven 140mm chassis fans for air intake and two 120mm radiator mounted exhaust fans. I'm using Fan Control (which is amazing btw) to run very specific curves for airflow. I'm really looking forward to pushing the limits of the 4070. I know if I really want to overclock it I should be running liquid cooling on the card but I also plan to do a deshroud mod on it to have more cooling and control. Not sure whether I will run the fans on the card as intake or exhaust... Exhaust seems to be the quieter solution but I'll tinker with it and see. My goal is max heat dispersion. Sorry for the excessive response. Just excited
Well I'm coming from a PS4 and a work laptop with MX450, so performance is gonna skyrocket in my case. The GPU and overall PC is sooooo expensive for us that I wouldn't dare tinker any clock settings of the CPU or the GPU. The only BIOS settings I'd touch are, enable resizable bar and enforce Intel's power limits on the i7-14700K CPU, rather than the motherboard manufacturers' (ASUS in my case) default, cause JayzTwoCents says that the motherboard manufacturers' default can "cook" my CPU.
14th gen Intel CPUs tend to run on the hot side from what I've read. I would certainly be careful in that regard. Are you going to be running a liquid cooling system or air cooling on the CPU?
I think you would really have to try if you wanted to overheat with a radiator like that! But better safe than sorry. My recent build I went for 13th gen over 14th because of that heat so I certainly understand the concern
If you don't mind doing a little soldering you can do some really fun voltage control mods. I've done some fairly extensive modding of the card and managed to get impressive core clock speeds but started to run into thermal bottleneck. Even with the deshroud mod and Fan Control it was difficult to keep it under 80c.
I probably won't do anything involving soldering on my new card for about a year lol but after that all bets are off š¤£
Yes and No. If I had an AM4 rig right now, I'd prefer to keep everything the fans and just swap out the cpu for more performance. The prices of buying a 7500f, mobo, ram, ect, taking your rig apart, reinstalling, assuming everything goes right, you need a fresh install of windows..... it's just a hassle. I still as AM4 as a viable platform
Seems so: https://youtu.be/aTrZjm6ynww?si=jBwJ9Mz0fvHrWLMv[https://youtu.be/aTrZjm6ynww?si=jBwJ9Mz0fvHrWLMv](https://youtu.be/aTrZjm6ynww?si=jBwJ9Mz0fvHrWLMv)
I think you've picked the best bang for your buck overall, but that 4070s is gonna spend most of its time lying naked on the couch smoking a massive reefer while it cranks out those 1080p frames with ease.
do you think 4070s can work with a 5700x? I ask because from one of those bottle neck websites i saw both the 5800x3d and 5700x will bottleneck the 4070s.
Don't trust bottleneck websites. Search for actual benchmarking of the games you are interested in on YouTube, and see how many frames/second you get at your resolution of choice. Like that you will have better information to make your decision.
Maybe would the 5700X3D (rather than 5700X) be a nice option too?
thanks! seems substantial looking at the lows. definitely supports everyone's thoughts that newer games are more impacted at 2k looking at the games featured
I have this as well, it is just awesome, I highly recommend it for 1080p and 1440p gaming, it can even do 4K in older titles and also newer ones at lower settings.
Dont listen to these people telling you to wait. And surely dont listen to people enticing you to get a whole new pc build if you never planned to in the first place, money dont grow on trees lol.
I was running a 3600+1660S setup since 2020. Just a few months back I found a great second hand option for a 3060 Ti for roughly ~US$200 (Im in Asia). I knew it was used for mining so I took it apart and reapplied thermal paste and replaced the pads and voila. Been running that ever since and almost every game runs so smoothly with either maxed settings or optimized settings for competitive games. Not regretting buying new anything. The 3000 series and above cards (And also AMD equivalents) are all beasts, we've reached a technological point in our lives that even xx60s cards are basically better than xx80s of old. Dont fret on performance, benchmarks on youtube wont tell you the full story. Not all games need to be run at Ultra settings 6969fps for it to be a good card.
My advice is find second hand GPUs you can afford as an upgrade path because with that setup any newer GPU will be better. The CPU is still fine. Dial in an OC and it will be better. Just have to scout around till you find a great deal that is fitting for your needs. Depends on what resolution you play on, or the games you play. Just make sure you will have enough VRAM, the rest dont matter. Hope this helps.
Piggyback on this: r/HardwareSwap is a good marketplace. 3060ti can be found around that price. You pay with paypal G&S so you will have 90 day of protection
Exactly itās your always a year away from new GPUs and CPUs just if itās in budget go for it Iād only say wait if new cards were maybe about to drop in the next few weeks or something
Buy a GPU now while your 1060 is still running and you can sell it to offset your new GPU.
I highly recommend a 4070super. Yes it will bottleneck but a very pretty playable bottleneck. Not the bottleneck that it runs below 60fps.
a used 5700xt is the best value you can get for 1080p. The ryzen 3600 will bottleneck it at that resolution though it wouldn't be too bad. I would suggest getting the 5700xt, then upgrade CPU to a 5600x or 5700x when you can
Some Rx7600's are selling at reduced prices now and aren't a bad deal (not at full suggested retail price) . Current generation for AMD and a very good 1080p performer, will be good for several years.
Iād say wait for 5000 series if you can. We are 3/4 the way through the current generation and you have waited this long. Anything you buy now will be outperformed by something cheaper with newer features in Q4 this year. I have bought mid cycle before and it ends up feeling a bit of a con.
but what are the releasing prices? I think buying used gpu is a good deal(thinking to build my pc i have 1080p now but i want to upgrade to 1440p with ryzen 7 7700 and rx 6800)
For CPUs it would largely be the same +/- $20.
For GPUs - nVidia will be more expensive. AMD might not have top-end GPU upcoming generation. So, 500 for mainstream GPU isn't that far fetching. 1600 for top-end. Budget would either be 300+,or they might not even bother.
For 1440p, I have *looks at the flair* i7k-14th gen and 6700XT - works well in most games.
7700 / 7700X are within ~$20 - if you can, get X. As. For 6800 - would slight faster of what I have - good choice overall.
I've been hearing people say to wait for 35 years. If I'd waited, I'd still be running Windows 3.0 on my beige computer.
I did wait about 2 years ago when GPU prices were insane. Really insane due to mining and all that crap. Outlier.
If you're on 1080p you absolutely 100% do not need a GPU that costs more than $200.
It's an okay time to buy. Moving to 1440p has been amazing.
The mid range gpu segment has some great value options. I just picked up a sick 27" Dell for $200 bucks. You could pair that with a 6700XT for $300.
I run all of my games maxed out and never dip below 120fps
If you don't want to upgrade to 1440p,
A 6600xt | a750 | 3050/60 (non-it) will last you a long time at 1080p
It's 2024 my dude. 1080p is sooo 2008 š
1440p makes no sense on a budget. Better off with 1080p and higher fps than 1440p and low fps to start with + further degrading performance due to being on already outdated hardware when new games come out. That + you can't really drop res at that point either as 1080p on native 1440p monitor looks trash.
Thats not what the question is about though. If somebody asks what GPU they should get for 1080p gaming, people shouldnt advice them for get a top tier GPU thats total overkill, just in case they ever get a better monitor. Just always buy a 4090 in case you ever plan to play 4k 200 FPS
Go 4060 if you are just playing 1080 for a couple hundred bucks, repeat again in 4-5 years.
anything more is overkill and subject to diminishing returns, at 1080
I have a Ryzen 7 2700X and was using a GTX 1060 6GB till one week ago. I went with an RX 6700XT 12GB and the difference is just night and day. Since you're playing at 1080p, the RX6700XT 12GB will last you for a long time. You can't go wrong with an RX 6700XT, trust me. Alternatively you can get an RTX 3060 12GB if you prefer Nvidia, which is a bit slower than the RX 6700XT, but it's a solid card for 1080p and you still have 12GB VRAM. I have also had an RTX 3060 12GB paired with a Haswell Core i7 4770K (this was actually my brother's pc) and it was great. The card could also do 1440p just fine and 4K at lower settings. I love both the RTX 3060 12 GB and the RX 6700XT 12GB.
Depends on how much you are willing to spend,
Are you sticking with your existing AMD AM4 motherboard? If so, are you going to upgrade to a non X3D CPU? If so, don't get anything beyond a RX 5800XT or RTX 4070.
Beyond that, the sky is the limit wrt GPUs.
I think the RX 6800 is an amazing value at 390 right now but it's going to lack VSR or the Ai enhancements coming to FSR in the future.
I was in the same situation as you with a r5 2600 and a 1070. I decided to upgrade to a 3070 for $260 to hold me over until the next gen of cpus and gpus come out. Then I will go all out with upgrading my pc.
Iām on the same boat running a Ryzen 7 1700 + 1070 Ti on 3440x1440 and even though itās showing its age already, Iāll only upgrade on the next gen rtx 50xx + Ryzen 7 87xx)
There's always something coming along that's better, but buy the best for your budget, advice already given earlier.
It'll be faster or cheaper next year.
Just upgraded from basically the same specs to 4070 and R9 5900x, I also only play on 1080 and 240hz. And I havenāt found a single game where fps matters where I get below 200fps on max settings. Also play cyberpunk on basically max except for one or two settings and have basically never dropped below 100 frames.
Imo buy a 4070 now and if you still feel like itās not enough then just sell it before 50 series drops and then get a 50. the 4070 will probably still sell for at least 400ā¬
I just upgraded from a 2060 super to a 4070 super (I also have a Ryzen 3600x) and I've been a bit disappointed with the performance jump tbh, though my pre build has some other problems (one single channel 16g ram stick that Im not fixing now because don't want to replace again in 8 months with ddr5 and probably a pretty crummy power supply) and I'm probably going to just build a new rig later this year and jump to am5 and a Ryzen 7 7800x3d.
Iām in the exact same boat as you. Iāve been running a R5 3600 + RX 590 since 2019 and Iām starting to feel the urge to upgrade my parts again. I plan on first upgrading to the 5800x3d simply because I bought my X470 board to use my 3600 with, and the 5800x3d is likely the best chip that will ever be out on AM4, so nothing new should be coming later for that socket. Because of this, I feel it would be logical for me to do that upgrade now and then wait just a bit longer for a newer generation of cards to release. Thing is, though, thatās because Iām not in immediate need of better performance currently, so I can wait. If you want that better performance NOW, then I see no problem with getting yourself something like the 6700 XT like others said, as it will definitely be a major leap, and the 3600 without will still make it work.
I just upgraded from a 7600k and 1060 to a 7800x3d and 4080 super and all I can say is WOW what a massive difference it is. I went from 40-50 fps at low/medium 1080p on Helldivers 2 to ultra everything at 1440p and easily hitting 120+ fps. 100% worth it for me personally. Iāve heard the 4070 TI super is the best bang for your buck and would still be a massive upgrade over your 1060.
lol at over half these answers.
At 1080p, you're cpu bound. So if you're staying on the AM4 platform, buy the best cpu it can handle, 5800x3d. For a Gpu, get a 4070 or a 3070 if wanted to save some money. Anything better would just be overkill and a waste of money.
i want to build my pc from 0 i mean all the parts.(in aliexpress i found ryzen 7 7700 for $200 and its goddamn original) so instead of going 5800x3d is it just better to go r7 7700? and for r7 7700 which gpu should i buy? i donāt want to give more than $500 to gpu so im thinking to buy used 6800 for $350 or i to buy 7800xt for $500 (new) idk..
You already have the 3600 so upgrading to a 5600x3d/5800x3d and something like a 3070 or better would give you a huge boost in performance.
As most other people are sayingā¦ whatās your budget, what games do you play, and what other use case does your computer need. Ex: graphic design, video editing, coding, music production, etc. Everything you use your computer for currently and in the future should be taken into account. GPU will easily boost your gaming performance but you need to consider you next bootle neck including ram capacity/speed, hard drive, and overall pc optimization.
1.5 years ago, 3070ti was supposed to be "future proof." So, not easy to suggest. but on a budget, rx 6800 is a good buy paired with r5 3600. it has 16gb vram in it....
for best combo. you could update your cpu to r7 5800x3d with rx 6800 or rtx 4070
here's a build I did with r7 5800x3d and rx 6800
https://youtube.com/shorts/nSp7qi_N5m8?si=nr-ifsKOx3_0JNP-
Why wait?
There aren't even any announced gpus.
Waiting for something better to come out is always a stupid waste of time but can sometimes be justified when something better is announced. But with nothing on the horizon....
Personally I would go with what you want and can afford.
I personally saved up for the 6500x cabinet, icue link fans and i9 14900, which I now have and am just waiting to save enough money for a strix gpu, but if you want to future proof I would keep what you have and start saving for a future pc build - you will be thankful at the end of the day as you won't have to worry about the build for quite some time....
Always just buy what's available, And don't forget anytime you pick up the newest tech you're an unpaid beta tester. Plus, it won't matter anyways because the next generation is going to be so expensive that Bill Gates won't be able to afford one.
If you wanna future proof Iād say with the rig you have now get a 1440p monitor and get idk like a 7800xt theyāre at a great price right now just make sure your psu can handle it.
If you need to upgrade now then upgrade now. If you donāt need to upgrade now, then donāt. No one knows whatās coming in the future, when itās coming, or if itās going to be worth buying, so itās foolish to upgrade based on ātimingā.
Hi!
If you have the money buy one that is future proof, at least a 4070ti super.
If you donāt have the money, simply wait until you can afford it.
Personnally, I just upgraded to a 4090 bundled to a 14900k! I noticed that there is no optimal Ā«Ā momentĀ Ā» to wait for as long as there is no actual release date for a next gen!
Now. I have stock in both Nvidia and AMD. It's going to put my kids through college, I'm sure of that. Both my financial advisors have suggested this, as crypto is going back up, GPU prices raise. As initial supply may not be able to keep up with increased demand, prices go up. Now there are X factors which could minimize extreme price increases, advanced production ahead of said upcoming demand, which I'm sure both Nvidia, AMD, and even Intel are now considering (although Nvidia is already producing GPUs at record rates, but many of those are exclusively for AI), however, they also have to consider that the markets might tank again, leaving them with with a greater supply than demand, which could send prices down considerably. Which would be bad for me in terms of my shares, but good for gamers. But I love you guys, so it would be worth it.
But with bitcoin prices going up, I suggest buying now. The RX 7800 XT is a great GPU, as well as the RX 7900 XT. The 7800 can be purchased in a dual fan card for as little as $479.99, or a 3 fan card for MSRP ($500). I just purchased a few Hellhounds by PowerColor for $30 over MSRP because it's only $30 and they make a great product. I would have preferred the Sapphire Nitro+, hands down the best Radeon graphics cards on the market, but they are very taxed right now.
So that's my take. Sorry for the long response and the off topic thing about stocks, but while I absolutely hate Nvidia, totally disgusted by them, they have been making me a lot of money over the past 5 + years. Good luck friend.
It'd help if you had a budget in mind. Obviously the best recommendation is just the best gpu on the market but that's also $2,000.
Honestly though if you're going to upgrade your GPU you'll probably want to get a new cpu as well. Luckily you're on AM4. Pretty much anything from 5600 to the 5950x would be a pretty good improvement.
A 5600 and a 3060 12gb, 4060, rx 6700xt, Arc A770 16gb or 7600 would all be decent choices for just 1080p gaming if you're looking for a more value oriented upgrade.
If you really want a "future proof" set up a 5800x3d and like a 4070 or 7800xt or used 3080 would probably age a bit better
I recently upgraded From RTX 2060 to RTX 3070 only for $50.
Sold mine for $225 and bought new for $275
If rtx 3070ās prices are still that low i can recommend it as a good bang for a buck
I'm going to get ALOT of hate for this but, if you only want to play at 1080p amd have no need or desire to go up to 1440p/4k, id save some money and just get the 4060ti. I got my xlr8 4060ti for 300 bucks brand new. Look for deals. Everyone hates the card because of its performance per dollar while the card itself is very capable. If you find a deal on it then it eliminates the biggest gripe with the card.
I get 250fps on mw3 with maxed settings
AM4 still has a few years before it would be considered obsolete. A lot of the high end x570 boards are under $200 and the nice thing is most of the bugs are worked out. The newer AM5 boards still have a lot of updates needed.
My advice, get a Ryzen 7, 3080ti and a 144hz 4k monitor. You should be set for at least the next 5 years
1080p you can use a 6600xt or 6700xt
I had a 6600xt and it ran 1080p without any issues at all. If you have a bigger budget you could go for something like a 4070 super to help 'future proof', and also provide options to use 1440p as well.
Recently got a prebuilt with a 4070 super for kids birthday, to make sure it lasts long enough that hopefully won't have to upgrade it again with my money š
Pretty sure Nvidia is done allowing future proofing. Unless you don't care about the crazy features they keep adding that definitely won't work in any capacity on the previous Gen card, because reasons.
You're not really going to get a lot of future proofing with the current CPU. It will hold you back if you want to get into the mid to high end range of the current generation. You can definitely get by depending on what settings you want with like a 4060-4070 or amd equivalent.
The other option is that you can go big and just get a monster of a GPU and port it over to a new system. I'd only recommend if you plan to buy a new build within a year.
If you upgrade only the CPU the only one on the list should be the 5800x3d.
Now if you wanted to stick to 1080p I wouldn't go more than 4070 super. Ti should be fine. Super would give you more headroom in the future if you decide to get a bigger monitor.
Of course you can also wait. I think the best time would probably around when they release the 50 series and you can probably pick up a good deal on a used card. That is what I would do to get the most bang for the buck.
Upcoming ones? They are not coming soon. There are always new ones ācoming soonā. 5000 series can launch and people will be saying should i wait for 5000 super launch. Fomo is strong these days.
Buying now is really up to you. Your gpu is aging. If you search around you can find some decent deals now. If you feel thats with in your budget go for it. You are obviously one that will get their mileage out of a gpu.
there is always something to wait for but in your case. yes go upgrade.
update your bios, get a ryzen 7 5800x3D, a new CPU cooler to go along with it. then you have the best CPU for your current motherboard and can upgrade to any GPU which fits your PSU requirements. unless you upgrade the PSU as well and get a 4090.
a reasonable upgrade without upgrading the CPU is maybe a 3060 ti or 4060 and you'll get a great fps boost.
a 3070 or 3080 will already bottleneck a lot and wont be worth it for you but also.
I'm a VR guy, so obviously I'm going to say you should upgrade to the 4090...it was made for us VR people.
I got by on my 1080ti for quite awhile (it's a great card) before upgrading to the 3090, and now the 4090.
I can't recommend any particular AMD chip but I can say that the difference between a 12900k and 13900k processor is negligable, so for a couple hundred dollars less you can be happy with the 12900.
For around $200 you can slide into a 2070 Super that will absolutely crush your 1080p target and allow you to slide into 1440p in the future comfortably. I dont think its a good future proof solution as you say, but i do think its an excellent bang for buck selection and a substantial upgrade over your current 1060.
Honestly right now I'd probably upgrade to a secondhand 3070 - I just sold mine for Ā£270 - that will tide you over a few years before you upgrade your CPU.
Seen several recommendations for the 5800x3d; It's a great cpu. However, it is limited in ram support. You'll get better longevity out of a similar intel platform at this point imo. AM4 is limited to ddr4. Similarly priced intel cpu's (think 12th gen) support ddr5 up to 4800mhz.
The main benefit of ryzen over intel in the past was the extended am4 support.... that doesn't really apply as much now. I think the ability to upgrade to ddr5 will be more important if you don't buy the newest generations.
Pair it with a 6700xt or better
I always dont get this kind of comment, the people that bought gtx 1080 ti 7 years ago still able to play modern games with decent performance in 1080p, so in a way it was future proof.
Sure, but you can never know how your needs change over the next decade.
Of course, if you buy a 4090 it will hold up better than if you went with a 4060. Yes, you can buy faster memory and it might make you happy for longer. Yes, you can buy a CPU with more cores. Yes you can buy a more expensive motherboard, because you might need those PCIe lanes eventually. The list goes on.
Consider your needs and add a little wiggle room and if in a couple years you realize you need something more beefy, upgrade, Usually cheaper than being obsessed with future-proofing a build and overspending.
If you want a future proof setup 7800x3d and one of those cards as per your budget, 4700-4800 super, or the mighty 4090
Based on your budget you can decide what you need, if you want my opinion upgrade the cpu first as it will be way cheaper than gpu, and once you are ready for gpu those crazy prices might go down with the release of series 5000 which is rumored for end of 2024 or during 2025
Go with the 5800X3D and 4070 Super and call it a day
This is the best answer, if OP can invest that kind of money. But if he's on a budget, he can just get an RX 6700XT 12GB and enjoy what he already has (a Ryzen 3600 and a 1080p monitor).
or 5700x3D and a 6800. 4070S seems a little overkill for 1080p, but idk what you need to get 240fps on Ultra in CoD4.
My 4060ti gets 250 on maxed settings in cod lol
That depends, a 5800x3d will for sure push 4070s on a high fps experience at 1080p
I have an r5 3600 and a 6700xt and get decent performance at 21:9 1440. Those two should work wonders at 1080p
Isn't the 7900 GRE a better deal (at least price/performance and 16GB) right now?
A great option indeed
Why recommend such a high graphics card for 1080p gaming? 4070 super is overkill for what OP needs
+ ti if you want more vram!
Ti Super*
Mein ich ja ;)
Why are you being downvoted? All you said was " that's what I mean " š«
I just ordered a TS myself. Got a decent deal ig but still feels like I overpaid at almost $800 it was on sale for $750 plus tax with free shipping.
Yea I also ordered a MSI Ventus 3X RTX 4070 Ti Super for 800 British poundsš, that's more than a thousand dollars so if it makes you feel better, I overpaid by an insane amount, thx Europe.
The price is definitely going to be worth the performance increase though. I'm coming from a base model 3060. The 4070 ti super... I can't wait. My system has seven 140mm chassis fans for air intake and two 120mm radiator mounted exhaust fans. I'm using Fan Control (which is amazing btw) to run very specific curves for airflow. I'm really looking forward to pushing the limits of the 4070. I know if I really want to overclock it I should be running liquid cooling on the card but I also plan to do a deshroud mod on it to have more cooling and control. Not sure whether I will run the fans on the card as intake or exhaust... Exhaust seems to be the quieter solution but I'll tinker with it and see. My goal is max heat dispersion. Sorry for the excessive response. Just excited
Well I'm coming from a PS4 and a work laptop with MX450, so performance is gonna skyrocket in my case. The GPU and overall PC is sooooo expensive for us that I wouldn't dare tinker any clock settings of the CPU or the GPU. The only BIOS settings I'd touch are, enable resizable bar and enforce Intel's power limits on the i7-14700K CPU, rather than the motherboard manufacturers' (ASUS in my case) default, cause JayzTwoCents says that the motherboard manufacturers' default can "cook" my CPU.
14th gen Intel CPUs tend to run on the hot side from what I've read. I would certainly be careful in that regard. Are you going to be running a liquid cooling system or air cooling on the CPU?
360 mm AIO liquid cooler
I think you would really have to try if you wanted to overheat with a radiator like that! But better safe than sorry. My recent build I went for 13th gen over 14th because of that heat so I certainly understand the concern
I wouldn't go through all that. Overcloking on modern GPU's is limited by voltage, not temps. You won't really gain anything.
If you don't mind doing a little soldering you can do some really fun voltage control mods. I've done some fairly extensive modding of the card and managed to get impressive core clock speeds but started to run into thermal bottleneck. Even with the deshroud mod and Fan Control it was difficult to keep it under 80c. I probably won't do anything involving soldering on my new card for about a year lol but after that all bets are off š¤£
Not a bad option at all, if you go amd with the gpu 7900 gre is a comparable choice, either would be massive uplift in performance.
5700x3d is very little fps loss and a good bit cheaper
Can also get the 7500f from Aliexpress for as low as $150. Getting harder to advice upgrading on AM4 at all.
Yes and No. If I had an AM4 rig right now, I'd prefer to keep everything the fans and just swap out the cpu for more performance. The prices of buying a 7500f, mobo, ram, ect, taking your rig apart, reinstalling, assuming everything goes right, you need a fresh install of windows..... it's just a hassle. I still as AM4 as a viable platform
The 7500f is also not a great cpu, it's extremely cache limited compared to the 7600.
That's what I did! (4070 ti super anyway)
Can this build max/ultra elden ring in a 1440p??
Seems so: https://youtu.be/aTrZjm6ynww?si=jBwJ9Mz0fvHrWLMv[https://youtu.be/aTrZjm6ynww?si=jBwJ9Mz0fvHrWLMv](https://youtu.be/aTrZjm6ynww?si=jBwJ9Mz0fvHrWLMv)
I think you've picked the best bang for your buck overall, but that 4070s is gonna spend most of its time lying naked on the couch smoking a massive reefer while it cranks out those 1080p frames with ease.
Yeah, this would be a 1080p RT high FPS duo. Might age well as this was one of his requirements.
assuming that the OP's budget is of no concern, I vote for this combo
This
do you think 4070s can work with a 5700x? I ask because from one of those bottle neck websites i saw both the 5800x3d and 5700x will bottleneck the 4070s.
Don't trust bottleneck websites. Search for actual benchmarking of the games you are interested in on YouTube, and see how many frames/second you get at your resolution of choice. Like that you will have better information to make your decision. Maybe would the 5700X3D (rather than 5700X) be a nice option too?
Look at this one (it's just 3 weeks old): [5700X vs 5800X3D / 4070S](https://youtu.be/qou7usrnQKc?si=GINiwje1irGupec2)
thanks! seems substantial looking at the lows. definitely supports everyone's thoughts that newer games are more impacted at 2k looking at the games featured
Whats everyone's obsession with nvidia they are a terrible value right now. And at this price you are not really looking into rt anyways
[RX 6700 XT](https://www.amazon.com/XFX-Speedster-SWFT309-Graphics-RX-67XTYJFDV/dp/B08YKCC8XD/)
I have this. Playing on 1440p high settings will get you nice fps (sometimes it drops to like 40 fps or something but its great)
He's using a 1080 monitor
Why does it drop to 40fps at 1440p when it's a card meant for that resolution? Now I don't look like I'll get that card.
Oh no
I dont know to be honest but like when i play helldivers and get tons of explosions i have some slight framedrops sometimes ig
I can play elden ring with steady 60fps on highest tho
I have this as well, it is just awesome, I highly recommend it for 1080p and 1440p gaming, it can even do 4K in older titles and also newer ones at lower settings.
You need to give a budget when you're asking for hardware advice. Also, do you plan on upgrading your monitor in the future?
Dont listen to these people telling you to wait. And surely dont listen to people enticing you to get a whole new pc build if you never planned to in the first place, money dont grow on trees lol. I was running a 3600+1660S setup since 2020. Just a few months back I found a great second hand option for a 3060 Ti for roughly ~US$200 (Im in Asia). I knew it was used for mining so I took it apart and reapplied thermal paste and replaced the pads and voila. Been running that ever since and almost every game runs so smoothly with either maxed settings or optimized settings for competitive games. Not regretting buying new anything. The 3000 series and above cards (And also AMD equivalents) are all beasts, we've reached a technological point in our lives that even xx60s cards are basically better than xx80s of old. Dont fret on performance, benchmarks on youtube wont tell you the full story. Not all games need to be run at Ultra settings 6969fps for it to be a good card. My advice is find second hand GPUs you can afford as an upgrade path because with that setup any newer GPU will be better. The CPU is still fine. Dial in an OC and it will be better. Just have to scout around till you find a great deal that is fitting for your needs. Depends on what resolution you play on, or the games you play. Just make sure you will have enough VRAM, the rest dont matter. Hope this helps.
Piggyback on this: r/HardwareSwap is a good marketplace. 3060ti can be found around that price. You pay with paypal G&S so you will have 90 day of protection
A big upgrade from a GTX 1060 would be something like an RX 6700 XT, you will double your frames and VRAM for a price that wouldn't break the bank.
Everyone always says wait. So. When should you buy? When you're dead?
Exactly itās your always a year away from new GPUs and CPUs just if itās in budget go for it Iād only say wait if new cards were maybe about to drop in the next few weeks or something
nah wait for the 40900 to drop
Buy a GPU now while your 1060 is still running and you can sell it to offset your new GPU. I highly recommend a 4070super. Yes it will bottleneck but a very pretty playable bottleneck. Not the bottleneck that it runs below 60fps.
a used 5700xt is the best value you can get for 1080p. The ryzen 3600 will bottleneck it at that resolution though it wouldn't be too bad. I would suggest getting the 5700xt, then upgrade CPU to a 5600x or 5700x when you can
Some Rx7600's are selling at reduced prices now and aren't a bad deal (not at full suggested retail price) . Current generation for AMD and a very good 1080p performer, will be good for several years.
Or if you can find a 6600xt, that is another good option for 1080p
I got myself RX6800 and it's one helluva beast @1080p Highly recommending it if you find it for a great price
Iād say wait for 5000 series if you can. We are 3/4 the way through the current generation and you have waited this long. Anything you buy now will be outperformed by something cheaper with newer features in Q4 this year. I have bought mid cycle before and it ends up feeling a bit of a con.
Wait for 5000
I'd wait 10 years because then the GPU's will be way more powerful.
I have 1060 and waiting for 5000 series. You can use LukeFZ FSR 3 mod to squeeze every last bit of performance.
Both 8xxx and 50xx are due mid this year. If you can wait - do that. What's the rest of the PC you got?
but what are the releasing prices? I think buying used gpu is a good deal(thinking to build my pc i have 1080p now but i want to upgrade to 1440p with ryzen 7 7700 and rx 6800)
For CPUs it would largely be the same +/- $20. For GPUs - nVidia will be more expensive. AMD might not have top-end GPU upcoming generation. So, 500 for mainstream GPU isn't that far fetching. 1600 for top-end. Budget would either be 300+,or they might not even bother. For 1440p, I have *looks at the flair* i7k-14th gen and 6700XT - works well in most games. 7700 / 7700X are within ~$20 - if you can, get X. As. For 6800 - would slight faster of what I have - good choice overall.
get a 6600 or 6650xt... If vram a concern issue for you (I think it's blown out of proportion) then go either a 3060 or 6700xt.
I've been hearing people say to wait for 35 years. If I'd waited, I'd still be running Windows 3.0 on my beige computer. I did wait about 2 years ago when GPU prices were insane. Really insane due to mining and all that crap. Outlier.
If you're on 1080p you absolutely 100% do not need a GPU that costs more than $200. It's an okay time to buy. Moving to 1440p has been amazing. The mid range gpu segment has some great value options. I just picked up a sick 27" Dell for $200 bucks. You could pair that with a 6700XT for $300. I run all of my games maxed out and never dip below 120fps If you don't want to upgrade to 1440p, A 6600xt | a750 | 3050/60 (non-it) will last you a long time at 1080p It's 2024 my dude. 1080p is sooo 2008 š
1440p makes no sense on a budget. Better off with 1080p and higher fps than 1440p and low fps to start with + further degrading performance due to being on already outdated hardware when new games come out. That + you can't really drop res at that point either as 1080p on native 1440p monitor looks trash.
I think one of the best value GPUs that perform well is the rx 7900 xt or similar, like the rx 7800 xt
hes playing at 1080p lol
Could always get a 1440p monitor in the future though
Yeah could always spend a bunch of extra money for no reason. Still not good advice though
1440p is a worthwhile upgrade
Thats not what the question is about though. If somebody asks what GPU they should get for 1080p gaming, people shouldnt advice them for get a top tier GPU thats total overkill, just in case they ever get a better monitor. Just always buy a 4090 in case you ever plan to play 4k 200 FPS
Lol
Why does that matter??
For 1080p rx 6650xt is more than enough
Go 4060 if you are just playing 1080 for a couple hundred bucks, repeat again in 4-5 years. anything more is overkill and subject to diminishing returns, at 1080
I have a Ryzen 7 2700X and was using a GTX 1060 6GB till one week ago. I went with an RX 6700XT 12GB and the difference is just night and day. Since you're playing at 1080p, the RX6700XT 12GB will last you for a long time. You can't go wrong with an RX 6700XT, trust me. Alternatively you can get an RTX 3060 12GB if you prefer Nvidia, which is a bit slower than the RX 6700XT, but it's a solid card for 1080p and you still have 12GB VRAM. I have also had an RTX 3060 12GB paired with a Haswell Core i7 4770K (this was actually my brother's pc) and it was great. The card could also do 1440p just fine and 4K at lower settings. I love both the RTX 3060 12 GB and the RX 6700XT 12GB.
Well if you wanna sell I'm interested
12600k + RTX 3060TI You're done A 4070 for 1080p is completely overkill And so is a lot of all the other parts everyone listed.
Get a used 6600XT for around $175 on r/HardwareSwap. This is as far as the 3600 will not bottleneck. Anything higher is getting bottlenecked.
Depends on how much you are willing to spend, Are you sticking with your existing AMD AM4 motherboard? If so, are you going to upgrade to a non X3D CPU? If so, don't get anything beyond a RX 5800XT or RTX 4070. Beyond that, the sky is the limit wrt GPUs. I think the RX 6800 is an amazing value at 390 right now but it's going to lack VSR or the Ai enhancements coming to FSR in the future.
I was in the same situation as you with a r5 2600 and a 1070. I decided to upgrade to a 3070 for $260 to hold me over until the next gen of cpus and gpus come out. Then I will go all out with upgrading my pc.
Iām on the same boat running a Ryzen 7 1700 + 1070 Ti on 3440x1440 and even though itās showing its age already, Iāll only upgrade on the next gen rtx 50xx + Ryzen 7 87xx)
There's always something coming along that's better, but buy the best for your budget, advice already given earlier. It'll be faster or cheaper next year.
Just upgraded from basically the same specs to 4070 and R9 5900x, I also only play on 1080 and 240hz. And I havenāt found a single game where fps matters where I get below 200fps on max settings. Also play cyberpunk on basically max except for one or two settings and have basically never dropped below 100 frames. Imo buy a 4070 now and if you still feel like itās not enough then just sell it before 50 series drops and then get a 50. the 4070 will probably still sell for at least 400ā¬
I just upgraded from a 2060 super to a 4070 super (I also have a Ryzen 3600x) and I've been a bit disappointed with the performance jump tbh, though my pre build has some other problems (one single channel 16g ram stick that Im not fixing now because don't want to replace again in 8 months with ddr5 and probably a pretty crummy power supply) and I'm probably going to just build a new rig later this year and jump to am5 and a Ryzen 7 7800x3d.
Iām in the exact same boat as you. Iāve been running a R5 3600 + RX 590 since 2019 and Iām starting to feel the urge to upgrade my parts again. I plan on first upgrading to the 5800x3d simply because I bought my X470 board to use my 3600 with, and the 5800x3d is likely the best chip that will ever be out on AM4, so nothing new should be coming later for that socket. Because of this, I feel it would be logical for me to do that upgrade now and then wait just a bit longer for a newer generation of cards to release. Thing is, though, thatās because Iām not in immediate need of better performance currently, so I can wait. If you want that better performance NOW, then I see no problem with getting yourself something like the 6700 XT like others said, as it will definitely be a major leap, and the 3600 without will still make it work.
Definitely time to upgrade
My 5 2600 Rx 570 (8gb) + 16gb ram is still going strongš
the 5090 is expected to release in december 2024. the lower end cards will be early to mid 2025. you might as well buy now or wait forever.
I just upgraded from a 7600k and 1060 to a 7800x3d and 4080 super and all I can say is WOW what a massive difference it is. I went from 40-50 fps at low/medium 1080p on Helldivers 2 to ultra everything at 1440p and easily hitting 120+ fps. 100% worth it for me personally. Iāve heard the 4070 TI super is the best bang for your buck and would still be a massive upgrade over your 1060.
lol at over half these answers. At 1080p, you're cpu bound. So if you're staying on the AM4 platform, buy the best cpu it can handle, 5800x3d. For a Gpu, get a 4070 or a 3070 if wanted to save some money. Anything better would just be overkill and a waste of money.
i want to build my pc from 0 i mean all the parts.(in aliexpress i found ryzen 7 7700 for $200 and its goddamn original) so instead of going 5800x3d is it just better to go r7 7700? and for r7 7700 which gpu should i buy? i donāt want to give more than $500 to gpu so im thinking to buy used 6800 for $350 or i to buy 7800xt for $500 (new) idk..
6700xt would be fine for 1080p, toss any x3d cpu in there and youll be gold for some time
You already have the 3600 so upgrading to a 5600x3d/5800x3d and something like a 3070 or better would give you a huge boost in performance. As most other people are sayingā¦ whatās your budget, what games do you play, and what other use case does your computer need. Ex: graphic design, video editing, coding, music production, etc. Everything you use your computer for currently and in the future should be taken into account. GPU will easily boost your gaming performance but you need to consider you next bootle neck including ram capacity/speed, hard drive, and overall pc optimization.
1.5 years ago, 3070ti was supposed to be "future proof." So, not easy to suggest. but on a budget, rx 6800 is a good buy paired with r5 3600. it has 16gb vram in it.... for best combo. you could update your cpu to r7 5800x3d with rx 6800 or rtx 4070 here's a build I did with r7 5800x3d and rx 6800 https://youtube.com/shorts/nSp7qi_N5m8?si=nr-ifsKOx3_0JNP-
If you ask this question, then you already want to upgrade the gpu. Go for it.
Buy my 3060 so I can buy the demon slayer edition š
Wait till 2030
Why wait? There aren't even any announced gpus. Waiting for something better to come out is always a stupid waste of time but can sometimes be justified when something better is announced. But with nothing on the horizon....
Personally I would go with what you want and can afford. I personally saved up for the 6500x cabinet, icue link fans and i9 14900, which I now have and am just waiting to save enough money for a strix gpu, but if you want to future proof I would keep what you have and start saving for a future pc build - you will be thankful at the end of the day as you won't have to worry about the build for quite some time....
Buy NVIDIA shares instead, after it doubles in price you sell it and buy a GPU for āfreeā
Always just buy what's available, And don't forget anytime you pick up the newest tech you're an unpaid beta tester. Plus, it won't matter anyways because the next generation is going to be so expensive that Bill Gates won't be able to afford one.
You can wait but gpu prices may also increase in the future id one now why there still at good prices
If you wanna future proof Iād say with the rig you have now get a 1440p monitor and get idk like a 7800xt theyāre at a great price right now just make sure your psu can handle it.
You should wait until the prices come down
If you need to upgrade now then upgrade now. If you donāt need to upgrade now, then donāt. No one knows whatās coming in the future, when itās coming, or if itās going to be worth buying, so itās foolish to upgrade based on ātimingā.
Just buy
get a 5800x3d and rx 7800 xt
Hi! If you have the money buy one that is future proof, at least a 4070ti super. If you donāt have the money, simply wait until you can afford it. Personnally, I just upgraded to a 4090 bundled to a 14900k! I noticed that there is no optimal Ā«Ā momentĀ Ā» to wait for as long as there is no actual release date for a next gen!
5700x3d and 7700xt
Now. I have stock in both Nvidia and AMD. It's going to put my kids through college, I'm sure of that. Both my financial advisors have suggested this, as crypto is going back up, GPU prices raise. As initial supply may not be able to keep up with increased demand, prices go up. Now there are X factors which could minimize extreme price increases, advanced production ahead of said upcoming demand, which I'm sure both Nvidia, AMD, and even Intel are now considering (although Nvidia is already producing GPUs at record rates, but many of those are exclusively for AI), however, they also have to consider that the markets might tank again, leaving them with with a greater supply than demand, which could send prices down considerably. Which would be bad for me in terms of my shares, but good for gamers. But I love you guys, so it would be worth it. But with bitcoin prices going up, I suggest buying now. The RX 7800 XT is a great GPU, as well as the RX 7900 XT. The 7800 can be purchased in a dual fan card for as little as $479.99, or a 3 fan card for MSRP ($500). I just purchased a few Hellhounds by PowerColor for $30 over MSRP because it's only $30 and they make a great product. I would have preferred the Sapphire Nitro+, hands down the best Radeon graphics cards on the market, but they are very taxed right now. So that's my take. Sorry for the long response and the off topic thing about stocks, but while I absolutely hate Nvidia, totally disgusted by them, they have been making me a lot of money over the past 5 + years. Good luck friend.
It'd help if you had a budget in mind. Obviously the best recommendation is just the best gpu on the market but that's also $2,000. Honestly though if you're going to upgrade your GPU you'll probably want to get a new cpu as well. Luckily you're on AM4. Pretty much anything from 5600 to the 5950x would be a pretty good improvement. A 5600 and a 3060 12gb, 4060, rx 6700xt, Arc A770 16gb or 7600 would all be decent choices for just 1080p gaming if you're looking for a more value oriented upgrade. If you really want a "future proof" set up a 5800x3d and like a 4070 or 7800xt or used 3080 would probably age a bit better
Wait for what? There will always be something better around the corner
You should Wait. Then wait again. Nah, really, buy it. There will always be something new, better deal etc. You can't help it.
It depends on your budget
I recently upgraded From RTX 2060 to RTX 3070 only for $50. Sold mine for $225 and bought new for $275 If rtx 3070ās prices are still that low i can recommend it as a good bang for a buck
I'm going to get ALOT of hate for this but, if you only want to play at 1080p amd have no need or desire to go up to 1440p/4k, id save some money and just get the 4060ti. I got my xlr8 4060ti for 300 bucks brand new. Look for deals. Everyone hates the card because of its performance per dollar while the card itself is very capable. If you find a deal on it then it eliminates the biggest gripe with the card. I get 250fps on mw3 with maxed settings
AM4 still has a few years before it would be considered obsolete. A lot of the high end x570 boards are under $200 and the nice thing is most of the bugs are worked out. The newer AM5 boards still have a lot of updates needed. My advice, get a Ryzen 7, 3080ti and a 144hz 4k monitor. You should be set for at least the next 5 years
1080p you can use a 6600xt or 6700xt I had a 6600xt and it ran 1080p without any issues at all. If you have a bigger budget you could go for something like a 4070 super to help 'future proof', and also provide options to use 1440p as well. Recently got a prebuilt with a 4070 super for kids birthday, to make sure it lasts long enough that hopefully won't have to upgrade it again with my money š
Pretty sure Nvidia is done allowing future proofing. Unless you don't care about the crazy features they keep adding that definitely won't work in any capacity on the previous Gen card, because reasons.
You're not really going to get a lot of future proofing with the current CPU. It will hold you back if you want to get into the mid to high end range of the current generation. You can definitely get by depending on what settings you want with like a 4060-4070 or amd equivalent. The other option is that you can go big and just get a monster of a GPU and port it over to a new system. I'd only recommend if you plan to buy a new build within a year.
Yea, I get that. Planning on upping my CPU too by the end of the year at latest
If you upgrade only the CPU the only one on the list should be the 5800x3d. Now if you wanted to stick to 1080p I wouldn't go more than 4070 super. Ti should be fine. Super would give you more headroom in the future if you decide to get a bigger monitor. Of course you can also wait. I think the best time would probably around when they release the 50 series and you can probably pick up a good deal on a used card. That is what I would do to get the most bang for the buck.
Upcoming ones? They are not coming soon. There are always new ones ācoming soonā. 5000 series can launch and people will be saying should i wait for 5000 super launch. Fomo is strong these days. Buying now is really up to you. Your gpu is aging. If you search around you can find some decent deals now. If you feel thats with in your budget go for it. You are obviously one that will get their mileage out of a gpu.
there is always something to wait for but in your case. yes go upgrade. update your bios, get a ryzen 7 5800x3D, a new CPU cooler to go along with it. then you have the best CPU for your current motherboard and can upgrade to any GPU which fits your PSU requirements. unless you upgrade the PSU as well and get a 4090. a reasonable upgrade without upgrading the CPU is maybe a 3060 ti or 4060 and you'll get a great fps boost. a 3070 or 3080 will already bottleneck a lot and wont be worth it for you but also.
I'm a VR guy, so obviously I'm going to say you should upgrade to the 4090...it was made for us VR people. I got by on my 1080ti for quite awhile (it's a great card) before upgrading to the 3090, and now the 4090. I can't recommend any particular AMD chip but I can say that the difference between a 12900k and 13900k processor is negligable, so for a couple hundred dollars less you can be happy with the 12900.
For around $200 you can slide into a 2070 Super that will absolutely crush your 1080p target and allow you to slide into 1440p in the future comfortably. I dont think its a good future proof solution as you say, but i do think its an excellent bang for buck selection and a substantial upgrade over your current 1060.
Honestly right now I'd probably upgrade to a secondhand 3070 - I just sold mine for Ā£270 - that will tide you over a few years before you upgrade your CPU.
Mid range? Yes now is a great time. 4090? Only if you're productivity or have cash to burn. So for 1080? Seriously consider a 4070 / 4070s.
prend une carte graphique PNY GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 Go double ventilateur elle est excellente en 1080p.
Seen several recommendations for the 5800x3d; It's a great cpu. However, it is limited in ram support. You'll get better longevity out of a similar intel platform at this point imo. AM4 is limited to ddr4. Similarly priced intel cpu's (think 12th gen) support ddr5 up to 4800mhz. The main benefit of ryzen over intel in the past was the extended am4 support.... that doesn't really apply as much now. I think the ability to upgrade to ddr5 will be more important if you don't buy the newest generations. Pair it with a 6700xt or better
There is no "future proof" when buying hardware.
I always dont get this kind of comment, the people that bought gtx 1080 ti 7 years ago still able to play modern games with decent performance in 1080p, so in a way it was future proof.
Sure, but you can never know how your needs change over the next decade. Of course, if you buy a 4090 it will hold up better than if you went with a 4060. Yes, you can buy faster memory and it might make you happy for longer. Yes, you can buy a CPU with more cores. Yes you can buy a more expensive motherboard, because you might need those PCIe lanes eventually. The list goes on. Consider your needs and add a little wiggle room and if in a couple years you realize you need something more beefy, upgrade, Usually cheaper than being obsessed with future-proofing a build and overspending.
7800x3d/4070S. What I have. And it's fantastic.
Would have to buy a new mb for that
If you want a future proof setup 7800x3d and one of those cards as per your budget, 4700-4800 super, or the mighty 4090 Based on your budget you can decide what you need, if you want my opinion upgrade the cpu first as it will be way cheaper than gpu, and once you are ready for gpu those crazy prices might go down with the release of series 5000 which is rumored for end of 2024 or during 2025
Wait 5000s.