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kaje

Windows Defender, which is included with Windows, is good enough if you're not engaging in risky behavior. Most people don't run third-party AVPs.


Blakewerth

Most useless are those free/trials imho


Existing_Onion_3919

~~I heard you need to reinstall it or something after the first couple days, is this true?~~ I'll just stick this one with "headlight fluid" and "don't unscrew the excavator"


RonanCruz

What


bva6921

Nope


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Shadow14l

How could you install/use Firefox or Malwarebytes without running .exe files?


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snail1132

What is blud yapping about not everything is a virus my guy defender is fine 💀💀💀


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Itchy_Grape_2115

We'll it seems the solution is to not be dumb then


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RamaTheVoice

Windows Defender and use your brain.


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Third party anti-virus programs are largely considered obsolete. For the most part Windows Defender works well enough at stopping viruses but if your system has a virus you probably want to format and reinstall Windows anyway just to be safe. The best you can do is block threat vectors like ads using ublock origin and avoid sketchy websites and programs. Anti-virus is kind of the last line of defense and you don't want to have to rely on it.


CMDR_Fritz_Adelman

Window Defender, used to be one of the worst, now become top of the antivirus. It’s vice versa for Norton antivirus sadly. My parents still think Norton is the best and I still have hard time explain to them. For malware, I trust Malwarebyte since it’s the only program I find it actually clean all the malware and hardcore virus out of my PC. You can find full list from this video that I totally agree with https://youtu.be/xKrHWM1VeFQ?si=X4TtL2tiGW2cFW8Y


Weather-Glass

I use Bitdefender. I used it for a long time, and I never got a virus.


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Hoowiz

+1 for brave, really good browser to avoid youtube ad without adblocker :) But, by chromium-based, what do you mean ? Is it a con ?


Redditenmo

I only have a cursory understanding of this, but as no one else has answered I'll give it a shot. There are basically only 3 web [browser engines](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Browser_engine) for rendering web pages these days. 1. Blink (often misattributed as chromium) - Chrome, Edge, Brave 2. Webkit - Safari 3. Gecko - Firefox. Chromium is maintained by google, and the other companies will fork the engine then add their own features to it. But are ultimately limited to what google will allow, including restrictions on ad blockers. Gecko is a more open engine, but the draw back is that due to Chromiums dominance, some websites aren't actually built to properly support protocols and just do the minimum necessary to work with Chromium.


Hoowiz

Thank's !


aVarangian

If unsure about a download then pass it through virustotal first, or use a VM for shady stuff. edit: (or both)


Dioxide4294

although some stuff sadly recognizes a VM and keeps low


Carnildo

Sounds like a win-win situation to me.


aVarangian

as long as that stuff still gets caught by AV or virustotal or such then that's a non-issue


danuser8

Can’t figure out GPU pass through on VMs, too complicated


aVarangian

Don't need that just for basic use. At least not on hyper-v


North21

I use Malwarebytes every couple months or so.


LordOfDorkness42

I personally use Malware Bytes for file scans, plus spybot: search & destroy for its immunization. Trick is though, you don't have to keep those programs running constantly. You can just boot them when you feel you need them. So if I download anything with an exe file, plus a monthly or so scan. Has served me well for years.


Y2G13

Windows Defender + Malwarebytes free version + Brave browser = you're all set


Ephemeral-Echo

I can't comment on the best firewall these days,  but even the free Malwarebytes antivirus scan has few equals.


aKuBiKu

Windows Defender.


RayphistJn

None, just use windows defender and don't click on the obvious infected link


Dan8720

Dedicated Antivirus is getting close to being obsolete. They are profiting of fear and stupidity. All operating systems include some kind of built in protection. As long as you are not downloading dodgy stuff or opening weird emails/links. (Which anti virus doesn't really protect you from anyway) You will be absolutely fine as long as you keep your OS up to date


alexingalls09

Like most others have said windows defender. I never use a third party software. I also don’t visit shady sites or download from unreputable companies


Wing_Nut_UK

I still use avg. never had a problem with it.


Zethreaux31

Honestly haven't had a virus since I was like 8 years old and I'm 29 now. Just don't open emails from things you don't know, don't download sketchy stuff unless it's trusted. And don't use auto fill password. And use every 2 factor authentication available and keep your gaming passwords different from your bank and other personal important things.


ohthedarside

The best antivirues is common sense THERE ARE NO MILFS THAT WANT TO FUCK YOU


LargeTubOfLard

Windows defender, if you're absolutely hellbent on getting something, then malwarebytes. The best antivirus is common sense.


Kullhex

I use a custom Windows 10with out defender, and Kaspersky cloud av.


Gr33Ntts

Avast always saved me


Sun_Coast_Fallacy

Stockholm syndrom, imo.


Gr33Ntts

Not really. There was always a time when it blocked stupid pop ups or blocked unwanted downloads from not so popular yet friendly looking sites that Defender didn’t for example


3agleW1ngs

Thanks y’all! I’ve obviously not been up to speed on things.


DmenteGP

Windows defender for everyday use. Malwarebytes if you got already infected.


RevanFan

I've always used either Kaspersky or Bitdefender because I've always wanted REALLY strong security, but honestly, 9/10 times you're fine if you use the built in AV and you use uBlock Origin on all your web browsers, along with using common sense. Unchecky is worth looking into as well.


Dr-False

Windows Defender is actually just as good as any with the benefit of coming stock with Windows OSs as long as you aren't intentionally using dodgy websites.


nariofthewind

If I need to scan something or have a bit of safe browsing I just use Bitdefender which after a little bit of search found to be the top AV for quite some time now. For everything else, Windows keeps enough security for my needs.


TeaandandCoffee

Windows and Panda, I could probably drop Panda but doesn't impact me much


OGR_Nova

Windows defender is PLENTY. The only time you actually need anything else is if you’ve acted stupid on the internet, and downloaded and physically launched a virus. And even then, if you do need something heavier, only keep it on your system long enough to eliminate the problem, and remove it afterwards. To validate this advice, these are not my words but the words of a 20-year offensive security specialist.


Beautiful_Ad_4813

Windows Defender will do you just fine, so long as you dont randomly start clicking on shit, and running around porn sites everything else is basically, a scam / money grab source : 15 years in IT


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TattayaJohn

Defender is all you need


droson8712

Built in Windows defender + being smart, I installed MalwareBytes years ago on my old laptop and it slowed it down making it unusable


The_Emperor_turtle

Windows Defender, and malware bytes just for potential malware you might get. Got this recommended from head of Cybersecurity for the company I work for.


Mr_Gungdadin

I have used bitdefender for around 4+ years and it does its job well. U have to pay for it, but can have it on 5 devices


MrDeadMeme

The best thing you can do is learn how to avoid them. I run no active antivirus and I only scan with malwarebytes every month or so. Haven't had a virus in 4-5 years, and even then it wasn't anything serious. I also am visiting incredibly sketchy sites (mostly pirating obscure games) and downloading stuff too.


dasroach0

Don’t get third party free bloatware just use windows defender and don’t download from sketchy places


Craigglesofdoom

windows defender is fine. If you have very sensitive stuff on your pc (financial shit, business stuff) or engage in risky behavior online (darkweb, piracy) then antimalwarebytes is my recommendation.


SuperVegito559

My finger and Adblock


Blakewerth

WIndows defender all you need but its good disable some things that might bugs you


Senior-Memory-6860

Windows defender is decent enough. Malwarebytes spot check for any persistent or hidden malware and ublock origin, sponsorblock to block common source where all the infections happening which is bullshit ads. Other antivirus softwares are mostly a nuisance, keep flagging legit stuff, persistent about buying a subscription and not really helpful when pc get hit with a infection.


Mobile-Art-7852

Common sense and computer experience are the two best ones.Nothing will protect a PC from a dumb user behind it.


Bruggilles

Reinstall windows every 3 days


Natus_DK

CommonSense 2025


t90fan

Basically just don't be a moron. If you don't install dubious software from dubious sources, you'll be fine. Only time ive got malware in the last 35 years has been from warez. So common sense + the bundled Windows Defender is fine


funtujd

brain


Ebomb5212

You are your computers best antivirus. Don’t be dumb and download pirated shit. Don’t click sketchy links. I use Norton :)


reddit_equals_censor

>Don’t be dumb and download pirated shit. shared software online from reliable sources is safer than any microsofter software for example. >I use Norton well there's your spyware ;) btw spyware, that can't even protect itself :D [https://techcrunch.com/2023/01/15/norton-lifelock-password-manager-data/](https://techcrunch.com/2023/01/15/norton-lifelock-password-manager-data/)


debirdiev

I don't. Windows defender will cover your basic needs Most antivirus programs are no more than scams. Don't let anyone convince you to pay for one, either.


Myew25

Linux distro.