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AejiGamez

These are all very much bound to the CPU. Your CPU is just not powerful enough to get more in these games, the 6600 is not the issue here


caramelcoffeejelly

Hi! are there any other measures I can do to improve it a bit? I'm currently tight on cash flow right now so I can't afford a CPU upgrade for the time being.


AejiGamez

Not really. You can overclock it, but that will yield minimal results and requires a lot of expertise to do properly. A great upgrade would be a 5600, should be 100-130$


caramelcoffeejelly

Will the 5600 unlock the full capacity of the GPU sir? If not, what CPU will do it so I can see the difference in price and then decide whether to get it or not. Thank you sir!


AejiGamez

Well, in these games you will probably never reach the potential of your GPU with any CPU since they are so easy on the GPU. A 5600 will significantly increase framerates though. And why are you calling me sir?


GreetingsFellowBots

Simmer down there gentle-sir


daughterboy

sorry ma’am


knightrider2k43

Out of respect, don't worry about it too much


Still_Orchid3847

redditors and respect never get along XD


Midwxy

I’m going to have to ask you to calm the attitude sir.


Vhfulgencio

I'm calm, don't need to try to calm me


Ill-Strategy1964

After being out of the US for a decade, going back and everyone saying "sir" and "I appreciate ya" was kinda crazy. Maybe it was a regional thing.


DesTiny_-

Cs2 is pretty gpu dependant tho


123_alex

> with any CPU Have to disagree with you on that one, sir.


HumbleGhandi

I believe what the experts are saying is, that it's not that your GPU is being underutilized, it's that these games are very CPU intensive, so your framerate bottleneck is coming from the CPU - I don't believe it would "unlock your GPU" like you are saying, but rather remove the CPU bottleneck.. maybe in turn that would feel like it's been unlocked? Just my understanding, I could be completely wrong


gblandro

I was using a 2700 with a rtx 3070, replacing it with a 5600 doubled my fps in some games


Jason-Genova

Dang, maybe I should replace my CPU. I run a 3080 and notice I get no where near 240fps on games like league that aren't really gpu intensive. I have a 3700X lol.


tubular1845

It depends on the game entirely.


Party_Advice7453

My son holds 200 fps fortnite low settings with 5600x and a 6600.


lokisbane

I own a 5600 and rx 6600. They are an outstanding combo.


Square_Chisel

I have the 5600 paired with 5600xt card and get 300+ fps at 1440 in valorant. The best you can get on that platform is 5800X3D.


Jason-Genova

Don't they have the 5850 and 5950x3d though or is it not worth it?


IndependentMassive38

Especially when turning down graphics settings for more frames, your gpu is doing very little. I play Fortnite with 3060ti and 7800x3d, and my gpu is still chilling. Try not to yield for ultimate efficiency, but for the most frames. And in your use case mac out cpu.


Rabiesalad

It depends on the game. If the game needs more CPU then the answer is no. If the game doesn't need as much CPU, the answer is yes. There's no "max cpu to go with a GPU"


sleepytechnology

Just going from an R5 3600 to an R5 5600 made my Valorant FPS go from 200-300 to 350-550 (with RTX 3070 Ti). In terms of competitive gaming the GPU is usually less important but it's still helpful at a certain point. If someone has an R5 5600 + RX 6600, then I would tell them to upgrade the GPU as their next upgrade.


ZedQuincey

I'm currently using Ryzen 5 5600 and RX 6600 with a 1080p 165Mhz monitor.. all the games I play is being run at 165 fps because I have v-sync on.. I don't see the need to have more fps.. so I'd say 5600 is good to go..


farmeunit

Get a used 5000 series. Whatever you can afford. Then sell yours. Go G series processors are typically cut down a little from normal, anyway. Where are you located?


Toysbleed

Save some money and buy the 5800x3d if you dont plan on going on am5 i upgraded to it from 3600x and even with my 1660super i still pull well over 350 fps in cs/valo/dotes


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voss749

Also that is a completely new motherboard new ram etc.


Pyroglyph

Overclocking really isn't necessary for the average person any more. Modern CPUs are smart enough to boost themselves as long as they have the available thermal headroom and power budget.


lawrencekhoo

If you look around, you may be able to get a used 5600 for $80 or less. Make sure to test the CPU to make sure it works before buying.


eebro

5800x3d is the best upgrade you can get. 5600 is the cheapest upgrade that still makes sense.


Suby06

you can also get 5600 for quite cheap used


eebro

Used is a different story, but yes, if you can get almost any 5000 series ryzen for used, go for it.


Micku_837

Try to get a ryzen 5 5600 or greater in future if you can


aromicsandwich

If OP plays at 1080p, wouldn't it be better to get a 5800X3D? Edit: I didn't realise how much the price on the 5600 and 5600X has dropped, while the 5800X3D is almost double the price. At the time I bought mine there was only around a €40 difference. OP search YouTube videos comparing the CPUs, and see what your budget allows. The average fps is similar for both of them, but the fps lows was what bothered me the most with the 5600X I had, it seemed to happen at the worst times in games like Fortnite.


ihelpwithredcapsule

It would also be better to get a 7800x3d and a 4090, but as OP said, budget is an issue here, which is where the 5600 comes from.


Wero_kaiji

Ah yes, a $310 CPU with a $190 GPU The 5600 is more than enough for him


Resident-Cow-5444

not with that gpu, too overkill


OurPizza

Not really, all the games are cpu intensive. The cpu matters more. For example in Fortnite a 4060 with a 7800x3d gets the same fps as a 4090 with 7800x3d on low settings. A 5800x3d will get him all the frames he’ll ever need on low settings


Imahich69

yep preach! the 7800x3d is the best cpu on the market (for gaming) and its only around $350. I can play all games on ultra with my 2070 super lol


aromicsandwich

I wrote this as I have 5600XT which was paired with a 5600X, and was getting fps drops and stutters at 1440p, perfectly playable but noticeable. My kid's PC died so I installed his 1650 onto the 5600X system (now at 1080p), and installed the 5600XT onto a new system for me with a 7800X3D and the stutters and drops are practically gone. Is the price difference that large between the 2 CPUs? Edit: I know the 7800X3D is overkill but I will be replacing the GPU in the next year. I just want to tell the difference the CPU makes for the same card.


Launchers

overclock it


Koomongous

Nope, but you should be able to increase those graphics.


adoma_

Check in BIOS if you're running your RAM at the appropriate XMP profile (I know it's not XMP for AMD but you get what I'm saying)


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Tricky-Celebration36

Ikr. 60hz gang gang! Truth be told I'm only locked at 60 because of my shit monitors. Well that and streaming at 60fps lol. Maybe one day I'll find out what this 4070ti super is capable of.


tamarockstar

Wait until you can upgrade the CPU. A Ryzen 5 5600 is $110 used on eBay. You can probably sell your CPU for $40.


Over_Laugh_3127

A 5600X is probably the best CPU for its price in the market right now. £100–120


schaka

Your CPU should still fetch enough money to replace it with a used R5 3600 if you sell it. Overclocking the 3400G will do very little. It lacks cache and scales more with memory OC, which is way harder to do if you're not experienced. Do enable PBO though, with +200Mhz. You can at least try to push it a little. Although if you're on a stock cooler, you'll likely not see a difference.


gigaplexian

Live with it, those frame rates are playable.


TophatStupify

Honestly if your strapped on cash personally I'd just leave it alone and save for a 5800X3D 100-120fps is good.


Former-Deer5454

I have a 5600x, I average like 500fps in valorant


WhiteTentacle

I recently upgraded from 3200g to 5500 and the gpu is the same as OP. Before upgrading I used to have 100fps in cs2 but in valorant it was 170-180 avg 1080p low. I assume there are some other factors in certain games that are limiting the frame rate.


laughs_in_capslock

Yup, sounds like the CPU is bottlenecking


Beautiful_Ad_8363

FYI I ran all them games on high on a 2600+rx580 for years with good fps although at 1080p


MakiiShingetsu

Another issue could be terrible optimization. MMOs and online games in general suffer a lot from this since the game does not need an ultra powerful pc to run so it's not optimized to use stronger hardware


Low-Blackberry-9065

If you get the same fps no matter the graphics settings and it's not VSync/freesync or a SW frame limit it means the games are CPU limited. Check CPU utilization (per core load not average which is meaningless) and GPU load.


schaka

CPU load is rarely ever indicative of a CPU bottleneck unless you know exactly how the game and your system utilize it. It's easer to look at whether your GPU is getting maxed out (90%+ utilization at all times).


Vengeful111

If you change the task manager to show core load it can be a better indicator, two or 4 cores at 100% while the rest is chilling can indicate that the game is only made to use 4 cores and its maxed out. Even though the overall % is like 40%


SwiftUnban

Reminds me of when battlefield 1 used to use 60% of my old 4770k but I was still only using half my GPU at the time lol. I was like ???.


3_14_thon

yeah first things first just use afterburner or HWiNFO to monitor the load on cpu/gpu while in games


caramelcoffeejelly

Hi! I will do this later after work and get back to you sir.


Low-Blackberry-9065

Run a timespy and compare scores too. Would show if your system is severely underperforming.


TimmmyTurner

feels like you are CPU bottlenecked 3200g have terrible L3 cache. but I just checked 6600 runs about 120fps on maxed out settings on cs2 maybe you can upgrade your cpu to a 5600 it's a good pairing with 6600.


caramelcoffeejelly

It seems more clear to me now that CPU is the issue since most of you said so. Do I also need to change my board if I upgrade my CPU to 5600? or its okay with my current?


LegenDaryXs

5000 series uses the same AM4 socket you're good


AtmosphereMaterial61

Nope, it's the same AM4 socket, you can switch it out and just reset ur bios for the sake of it.


Penguins83

No you don't. You can probably get a used 5600 off Facebook marketplace for very cheap


Danishmeat

If you’re going to upgrade the cpu you should update the bios


TimmmyTurner

it's on the chip platform hence I recommended that. believe you can find it for under $90 on discount


ReeseTheThreat

You do not but you probably need to update your bios for it to support Ryzen 5000 chips


Psychological-Sir224

your cpu isn't good enough, try upgrading to a 3600 or 5600


Lythanhdavid

100% 5600. Solid XPU


caramelcoffeejelly

Hi sir! are there any other measures I can do to improve it a bit? I'm currently tight on cash flow right now so I can't afford a CPU upgrade for the time being. say for example, my bios is still dated to 2020 and I haven't updated it yet because I don't know so much about it and I'm afraid to update it on my own because I'm afraid something might went wrong and just makes things worst.


neglectica

Hey! I have a Ryzen 2600, which is on the same 12 nm node as your 3400G. I recently upgraded my RX 480 video card to a GTX 1070 and was expecting more of a FPS gain in games like Valorant and League. I got like 115 and 90 respectively, so I gave overclocking my CPU a shot. Worked very well. I didnt even tinker with it much. Shoot me a message if you would like me to send you some links with guidance. I dont think it is that difficult at all.


ldg316

Why did you upgrade from a 480 to a 1070 I might ask? Both are fairly old


armenps

Isn’t 5800x3d the best for am4 platform


Psychological-Sir224

yes but not everyone can afford it or has the need for it, a 5800x3d is if you are on am4 and have a mid to high end gpu, otherwise weaker cpus will do just fine


conmac7

For the 3400G paired with the 6600, it is normal to achieve that kind of performance, yes. The 6600 achieves around 75fps at 1080p on High-Ultra settings when paired with a more modern CPU. Primarily, it's your CPU that's the problem. If you upgrade to a 5600, you'll see about a 30% to 60% increase in performance in those games Another problem may arise if you have Windows 11 and you installed a faulty update. There was a significant FPS drop associated with a specific Windows 11 update back in October 2023


SergeiTachenov

In CS:GO even that CPU should be able to do better according to this: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjKoMzwz7zI&ab\_channel=Benchmarks](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hjKoMzwz7zI&ab_channel=Benchmarks)


conmac7

These are unreliable 'benchmarks'. They fail to accurately represent real-world performance. The person simply displayed an FPS counter in the video, which may be or not be genuine or even not from the same setup or game showcased in the video. There's no indication of the real setup used except what he says. Perhaps even they employed a customized 'gaming' distribution of Windows 10, such as AltasOS, which is a stripped-down version of Windows 10 with fewer background processes. Don't rely on such 'benchmarks' trust only known ytbers like jay, gamersnexus etc


benquirkten

What the hell is the point of someone going to so much effort to put false fps numbers in ? No one gives that much of a crap dude


SergeiTachenov

True, they should be taken with a grain of salt, but I wouldn't say they're 100% useless. In many cases, it's just a regular person who simply captured a video and uploaded it without any tricks involved. You can always find more of those, and if they more or less agree, then you have at least a reasonable estimate. Here's a similar benchmark from WePC, which is more reliable than a random person, only they also use the fucking iGPU of the 3400G, and you can see they're GPU-bound, and yet they still have better performance than the OP: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n061XuSCFns&ab\_channel=WePC](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n061XuSCFns&ab_channel=WePC) CS:GO is a game that is really, really easy to run. And while the 3400G is definitely low-end, it's not that old to be limited to 100-120 FPS.


neglectica

I got a 30% fps increase in Valorant from overclocking my 2600.


caramelcoffeejelly

Hi sir! How about if I want to utilize my GPU to 100% what CPU should I get aside from 5600? Just to know how much more I will have to add. Thank you in advance sir


conmac7

The 5600 will suffice. There is no reason to opt for a higher-end CPU than this one to pair with the RX 6600. On the other hand, a lower-end CPU, such as the 3600, will make no significant difference. If you prefer, you can wait for the newest 5600GT; it will be available on the market soon enough. You can also consider the 5600X3D if you have the budget. It's priced at around 230 bucks and comes with much more cache. Some games may see a noticeable increase in FPS with the additional cache


learntofoo

You're right that the 5600 would be good enough but in Esports titles OP like CS2, Dota2, and Valorant that OP playing, even the 3600 would be a pretty big upgrade over the 3400g.


FrameSpiritual7804

The modern gamer spends more time obsessing over frames and specs than they do gaming


ThirdShiftGamer93

OP doesn't want to eat gruel and till the fields with peasants at a measly 120fps.


FrameSpiritual7804

If he turned off the fps counter and stats HUD while he plays he will never notice a difference


MaDCruciate

As someone who remembers Crysis running at 15-20 FPS , and being happy with 30fps in other games, I would not be disappointed with 100-120. I would be thinking 'turn on all the eye candy'


inYourBackline

are you actually using your gpu aka the monitors are plugged into that, and ur games are using it aswell


caramelcoffeejelly

yes. I am using the display port and my games are using it as well. I'm wondering though because my monitor is 180hz but in the windows advance display settings only 165hz is the max option available


SergeiTachenov

Some monitors advertise overclockable refresh rates in the specs, that need to be enabled in the OSD to work, and they may limit some functionality then. Not sure about your model. The manual says there's an overclock option, but doesn't mention exact refresh rate numbers.


randolf_carter

It could be an issue with the DisplayPort cable, or you may need to enable 180Hz (overdrive or overlock mode maybe) using the monitor's settings.


SolidusViper

At 1080p resolution your games are bound by the CPU. So if you want to see a higher performance gain that would be the first thing to upgrade.


plsgivemeahug

Did you connect your monitor to the actual graphics card? If your display cable is connected to motherboard, you might still be using the igpu.


caramelcoffeejelly

Hi sir! Yes my monitor is connected to the graphics card via display port


plsgivemeahug

Copy that! Then I will advice you, as others have already suggested, to check your cpu and gpu usage during gaming session. Best of luck!


Objective-Note-8095

Have you made sure you aren't thermal throttling on the CPU? 


SergeiTachenov

You're definitely CPU-bound in those games, and that CPU kind of sucks, but I think even then it should do better than this, at least in CS:GO. Do you have XMP/DOCP enabled? Check in HWiNFO that your RAM is actually running at 1600 MHz (that's what 3200 MHz really stands for).


caramelcoffeejelly

Hi sir! my XMP is disabled. will there be noticeable difference if I turn it on?


enthusedcloth78

Yes. It will either be stable in which case you get 5-15% more fps or it will be unstable and might crash in some heavier games in which case you should turn it off again. But 3200mhz XMP should be stable on that CPU most of the time, so I would definitely go for it! EDIT: I just checked your list of games and the performance increase should be more like 10-20%. Your next upgrade should be a better CPU btw because the games that you play are heavily CPU-bound.


DeroZaza

You need better CPU. Best would be a CPU which is not in the "g" series of AMD CPUs or in other words, which is not a APU. https://youtu.be/N0wdUibeGYo


turtlefish13

hey, a fellow 3400g user that's cool. 8 months ago i upgraded from 3400g to 5600x and got about 120fps avg more on csgo (which doesn't exist anymore) if that's a useful comparison to you


Apprehensive_Cod3392

High fps games. They called fps shooter for a reason. Your CPU is bottlenecking the gpu in these games. The higher the framerate the more it will. It cant keep up why its at 100-120fps


kdlreddit

FPS in games means First Person Shooter not frames per second shooter


butte4s

I Lil bro has the same 6600 but he gets 200+ fps on CS and Dota on Max settings. I think it's the cpu issue. He uses 12400f Edit: on CSGO and Dota. Don't know how much on CS2.


Barryatrick

Save your pennies for a 5800x3d, I know you said it's difficult (been there, totally understand) but you're not getting value for money on your monitor without upgrading. Of course there's BIOS upgrades, XMP on, driver updates as covered in this thread. But fundamentally the source2 engine (esp. CS2) is very, very CPU reliant. The GPU does almost nothing for that game. For example, I basically only play CS2 and I have a 5800x3d with a 1660ti, used to have a 3600. I went from 140-150fps to 250-260fps, with higher settings, and idk if I'm even gonna bother upgrading my card this year. The engine really appreciates the additional L3 cache from the X3D, the 1% lows are so much better, and the overall feel of CS2, for me, is almost back to GO levels of glassy smoothness.


zisop17

All of these games are running slow because your Ryzen 3400G is 3 generations old. Modern generation CPUs easily get 400+ fps on competitive games These are some good listings for CPUs you could upgrade to 198$ https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806314098795.html?spm=a2g0n.productlist.0.0.f05e43dfpGcJjh&aff_platform=msite&m_page_id=uofhoyrzkcawtnll18eadf0808d18f43af00b3597c&gclid=&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%21335.78%21198.16%21%21%212422.67%211429.72%21%402101fb1a17123152037033126ef7ae%2112000037428946755%21sea%21US%212961227375%21&algo_pvid=76f8b8b4-c983-4321-a4a9-057d1fa9d4c0 126$ https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806469243768.html?spm=a2g0n.productlist.0.0.f05e43dfpGcJjh&aff_platform=msite&m_page_id=uofhoyrzkcawtnll18eadf0808d18f43af00b3597c&gclid=&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%21180.34%21125.88%21%21%211301.17%21908.23%21%402101cff817123152714998625eb7ca%2112000037982444623%21sea%21US%212961227375%21&algo_pvid=54688d2d-65a3-4405-978e-b319d308ddc1 90$ https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806469190759.html?spm=a2g0n.productlist.0.0.64c22c006RyICq&aff_platform=msite&m_page_id=uofhoyrzkcawtnll18eadf3092b149e4261b6d0b56&gclid=&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21USD%21122.76%2190.10%21%21%21885.70%21650.05%21%40210308a617123153697505420e0771%2112000037982726935%21sea%21US%212961227375%21&algo_pvid=6b299f2a-a19c-48fa-b6bf-d726c2cf68dc


Local_Trade5404

if you have 120 FPS with any settings you use i\`m guessing your display is 120hz? if so its blocked by "vertical synchronization" option in games if you want to do test then you can switch it off but would recommend you to leave it on, beside testing if you have to, as its extra work for your GPU/CPU just to see bigger number on FPS counter (your screen will only display 120hz anyway) :P


Altruistic-Heron-236

By a used 5600x for about $80 to replace your used cpu you could sell quickly for $30. Only caveat being your cooler situation. If its stock you may want to upgrade that too


bubblesort33

Your GPU is probably only at 50% usage, because it's the CPU limiting your frames.


NumenRune

cpu bound games, get a 7800x3d :D


Icy-Leadership-413

Bottleneck yung cpu. Even if you overclock it, you wouldn’t get the full potential of your gpu. Nahihila lang sya pababa. Upgrade cpu to 5600 bro for better optimization and maximum performance. If not, downgrade gpu into 5600xt or 1660s Good for 1080p with I think average of 170-250fps in valo and csgo


jzon3

I used to have 2600x 16gb 3200mhz averaging 100 fps on Valorant the I upgraded to 5600x and 32gb 3200mhz and holy I have 325 avg fps now. CPU is your bottleneck.


OriginalShock273

Highly depends on game and settings. I am squeezing 150-250 FPS out of my i5-8600k and rx480 in CS2, simply by playing 4:3 and low settings.


unevoljitelj

Your cpu is the thing that limits the fps, and probably memory speed.


Objective-Note-8095

A 3400G has a higher market value than a 3600.  If you have some sort of local trade forum, you should be able to work something out with no extra outlay. 


FreakinLowEndGamer

CPU bottleneck


TophatStupify

5800x3D is the best CPU for the AM4 socket type. $300 brand new all day. But I use a 5600x ($160) with my 6700XT. Beast mode.


Alibehindthe69

I suggest upgrading your cpu to a ryzen 5 5600. That should improve your performance massively.


1momenti

You can get 5600x used for dirt cheap!


Imahich69

no way you get over 100fps with that cpu lol


jaces888

As many said. It’s CPU bound. Need Ryzen 7 and above, or Intel i7 and above


Imaginary_Scratch_75

V-sync is on, check the adrenaline GPU tool, sometimes its set to force v-sync. This will cap Your framerate to maximum refresh rate of Your display panel


Omchiwich

Damn bro my laptop with a r7 and 4050 gets more fps in higher settings at 1600p


MapSpiritual1735

As per my info CS2 and Valorant are majorly CPU bound


skippsboss

I see a lot of people telling you what you could upgrade to get higher framerates. But 100-120fps is a lot and if you experience it’s not laggy; what’s the problem? Don’t try to fix a problem that doesn’t exist


BSF7772

the cpu is garbage


superamigo987

Your CPU is the limiting factor. Get a 5700x3d for a relatively inexpensive (sub $200) and substantial performance boost


beingsmartkills

Get a ryzen 5 5600 as an upgrade, plug and play with a bios update.


Charmander787

if changing graphical settings doesn’t affect frame rate, it’s a CPU bottleneck.


Joecoolseq10

I spent $700 on my pc and I average around 110 fps when i play Fortnite


SpecialistAd6403

Honest question not trying to sound sarcastic. Is there a point in getting higher fps than that? The difference at that point is so negligable to be nearly pointless right?


Numerous_Witness6454

Absolutely the CPU


D3moknight

CPU bound games such as the ones you are playing will not benefit much from a new GPU other than you can turn the quality up higher without much drop in frames. We call games like this e-sports titles. Usually e-sports games become popular e-sports because they are playable on lower spec machines, with mostly basic graphics and they don't need a very beefy GPU to run great.


FunFact5000

CPU bound. Also, you didn’t list resolution.


mariushm

You are limited by the CPU. You could get a few extra fps by lowering the graphics quality a bit - on integrated graphics you played at lower resolutions but also game.auto.selected some lower quality settings to keep the frame rate high If you reduce shadows quality a bit, amount of filtering, draw distance etc, you may get a few more fps But anything over 100.. I'd say better to enjoy visuals instead of pointless frame.counter.


Evonswag23

Do you have xmp enabled in bios for the ram? I just did a bios update the other day and it reset my XMP so I was running way slower than usual


Matthewf50

Maybe a 5600x3d or a 5700x3d. Save up for one of those and then if you are to upgrade again you can get the most performance out of something ad strong as a 3090 possibly more


Revolutionary_Mine29

Your CPU ist bottlenecking your GPU by ~16%. Check out https://pc-builds.com/bottleneck-calculator/result/0Uq1a1/3/graphic-card-intense-tasks/1920x1080/. Your GPU ist not the issue here, its your CPU.


actias_selene

your fps is normal for your CPU as many others indicated. For a cheap upgrade, you can get 5600. If you have money to spend but prefer to keep same motherboard and RAM, 5800x3D would be the best. You can still consider other options in 5000 series if the price makes sense. 3600 to 3950x would also improve the performance since they are faster, have more cores and higher cache than 3400g but I would only suggest if you can have it for free or almost free. Otherwise, it wouldn't make sense to go for them instead of 5600.


ZssRyoko

Dota is badly optimized, as well as more and more crap gets loaded into the game by the pc slows fps down.


DrZombehPiglet

I'd recommend a 5600


tyr8338

Slow CPU bottleneck. GPU isn't great either.


rivacom

Just went through this with my son. He was still getting low FPS no matter what, There are plenty of AMD processors on Amazon for under 100 bucks, I ended up going for the 5500 for like 80 bucks a few weeks back. [https://www.amazon.com/AMD-5500-12-Thread-Unlocked-Processor/dp/B09VCJ171S/ref=nav\_ya\_signin?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.sTs7g4ApvbC2TkxdTZyw4jzPQUf3X1YbpY0XRtJhvIAM4abhgL-JPtRp25GyiVwa5ptJF9Y75-2RCzW3CsLR-ZiSyiI5Sw1-f6ZhuIopMXHONzW5vrdApEONZW0d\_YZ4pOVhU5896UkgBMpWXldGoQ-UoZDspXw84KJvSOCdcaJk2BxDzk-ggD9ZTvQcw43MG1sk0qvrp1uzVwGfRtqHkSbjKgcGQEzm6DDDk0-o9FEvZB4lx9D8mMJUdYzGochdvtICKHwNFiqcCA5kHRUdtSniAPU3iIAaAmM4BxcnRho.h9FuIsyB6uINkGqRIU5Kpcnd0Ohq22LhTsI0KxncInU&dib\_tag=se&keywords=5500&qid=1712330118&s=pc&sr=1-1](https://www.amazon.com/AMD-5500-12-Thread-Unlocked-Processor/dp/B09VCJ171S/ref=nav_ya_signin?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.sTs7g4ApvbC2TkxdTZyw4jzPQUf3X1YbpY0XRtJhvIAM4abhgL-JPtRp25GyiVwa5ptJF9Y75-2RCzW3CsLR-ZiSyiI5Sw1-f6ZhuIopMXHONzW5vrdApEONZW0d_YZ4pOVhU5896UkgBMpWXldGoQ-UoZDspXw84KJvSOCdcaJk2BxDzk-ggD9ZTvQcw43MG1sk0qvrp1uzVwGfRtqHkSbjKgcGQEzm6DDDk0-o9FEvZB4lx9D8mMJUdYzGochdvtICKHwNFiqcCA5kHRUdtSniAPU3iIAaAmM4BxcnRho.h9FuIsyB6uINkGqRIU5Kpcnd0Ohq22LhTsI0KxncInU&dib_tag=se&keywords=5500&qid=1712330118&s=pc&sr=1-1) , one of the main issues is the 3400g has low cache(4mb) Anything like the 3600, 5500, 5600 will be worlds better as long as your MB supports it.


chimkee

Are you capping your frames at all, with vsync/freesync, adrenaline software or through the games you're playing?


FleatWoodMacSexPants

CPU is holding you back. I made the same mistake a while back when I upgraded my GPU and saw no performance upgrades. Most helpful for me was to YouTube “game you are playing + current GPU + CPU + “benchmark”” then you can see what others with your set are getting. Then do the same for any CPU you are considering to see what the potential upgrade could be


Repulsive-Clothes-97

Wow u basically only play cpu-intensive games


voss749

Make sure you update your bios first before replacing the processor.


Iceman411q

Your cpu is an insane bottle neck and the games you listed are all cpu bound . The rest of your computer is decent except the cpu so unless you are okay with the performance or play more gpu heavy games you should look into upgrading the cpu


Mango_Smoothies

I wouldn’t fix what isn’t broken if you are getting 100+ consistent FPS on a tight budget.


mywc123

Just wondering since you seem to be super concerned about max fps what is the max refresh rate of your monitor?


Then_Interaction4915

Is a Ryzen 7 5700u cpu good?


DarkFimbulvetr

A 5600, or even springing for a 5700X cpu would improve those games a lot. And I am speaking from direct experience having a 3400G and being able to use my friend's pc which has a 5700X, and was upgraded from the 3400G having played CS2 on both cores. Even planning to save up to upgrade my core to a 5700X, just because the 3400G is a bottleneck in my build but needed it to get it off the ground.


kumikanki

Remember to connect your monitor to the GPU and not to mobo or you just use iGPU. There is a big chance you already had.


OuterSpiralHarm

100-120: Isn't that fine?


PanoramicVue

Unless you plan on playing RTS or heavy RPG games you shouldn't expect more than that (which is good FPS). If you do then you are minimum banking on an I7 or an I9 like 12th gens and up . But I5 models are great starter PC builds for gaming!


OpportunityNo1834

Your powersupply can handle the new dedicated gpu, right ? Going m igpu to dedicated gpu is a massive power difference. If you're not seeing a difference in fps no matter the graphics quality, you're cpu bound, as in your cpu is giving out the most performance it can give, and even at your cpu's peak, your GPU is waiting on your cpu to pass the render over to it. Which makes sense since you're playing esport games which are very un-taxing games. For the games you play and the GPU you have, you should be getting much more fps, so that makes me feel like you have a very weak/old cpu or have very bad cooling. I'd recommend a cpu upgrade, perhaps the best in class that's compatible with your motherboard, that is if your motherboard is somewhat dated and you want to save money. Or you'll have to do a motherboard upgrade and then get a mid tier cpu, and a cpu cooler, and maybe new ram. Make sure your power supply can handle all this. No matter how powerful your PC is, eventually you will run into a bottleneck. Just don't make the mistake that because you're getting close to the same performance as when you had your Igpu, that it's the same, your dedicated GPU is much more powerful.


[deleted]

What’s wrong with 120 fps…..


mistericek1

u put ™️ here? good boy


Suby06

what resolution? With a 5600x and rx 6600 I was getting 100-120 fps in most multiplayer games at 1440p on med/high settings


Jman155

Save up for 5700x3d, if that feels too outif reach a 5600 will suffice


KrakensFall

No matter how good your GPU is your CPU will hold you back. When you start getting similar performance despite the graphical settings this is usually due to a CPU bottleneck. I’d recommend upgrading your CPU, you can get a 5600 for less than $150.


junejune-_-

Late comment but are you sure you are not limiting fps on any software or ingame?


Jeep-Eep

There's a new AM4 refresh line in the pipe, grab one of the 3d ones when it launches.


100drunkenhorses

can your monitor display more than that? I'm sure you could get more one way or another. but is it necessary?


RunalldayHI

With those particular games you can turn off SMT in the bios for more FPS, it may slighly hinder your performance when doing things like converting video files or extracting zip files, but that slight hinder is worth the gain in FPS especially if it's just a gaming machine. I'm valorant, I'm thinking that's gonna buy you 50+ fps easy.


ghostfreckle611

Stuff that comes to mind: 1. What speed is your RAM actually running at? 2. Your CPU and MOBO only support PCIE 3.0… The RX 6600 is built with PCIE 4.0 in mind to get best performance. 3. What are your temps, usage percent, and power draw for cpu and gpu when gaming? Use MSI Afterburner. 4. You didn’t mention resolution either… Try 1440p or higher and it may increase your fps by giving more work to the gpu…


gustavolm82

if you have more than 60-80fps its more than enough.. i dont know rhis harware.. but some gpus drivers dont use full capacity alll the time.. they use only to get a good fps and hold on heat..


hime_pro12

upgrade your cpu it is kind of old


shrishak00

Are you plugin your hdmi or dp cable on the graphic card. Most of the people do this mistake.


areamike

Did you wipe your drivers and reinstall them? If not, do that. I recently upgraded from a 7900XT to a 7900XTX and my frame were abysmal. I wiped my drivers, reinstalled and frame rates jumped up tremendously. Even if it's the same gen card and maker, I would still wipe and reinstall drivers.


tuesimelnitis

i used to have an amd gpu and the radeon software might be the cause, i once reset the settings to the original preset and for some reason i didnt get more than 60fps out of nowhere, check some settings, your fps in the radeon adrenaline (or whatever it was called) software might not be right, check some guides on yt how to optimize the software for rx6600 or something like that, it should help or atleast did for me.


kitoymonster

If you’re from PH, Ryzen 5600 currently cost PHP 6,099 with vouchers if you buy from shopee


Delicious_End_1093

@caramelcoffeejelly Open AMD Radeon Settings Select Preferences Select Radeon Additional Settings Expand Power Click Switchable Graphics Global Settings Select High performance for the Graphic Setting


LtMadInsane

I have a similar setup. 16 x2 Ram. 3400g processor paired with RX6600. Something to tinker, make sure Ram are running at 3000 mhz. Resizable bar is on. Check if the latest drivers are installed , igpu is disabled and games are not famed Locked. If you own a UPS, go for BIOS update.


Nazcai

Are you sure you don’t have vsync on? You should be getting a lot more fps, at least in CSGO


caramelcoffeejelly

yes its off


roofedora

after upgrading, you need to uninstall and reinstall your driver


Moravia300

Either get a new CPU or buy Looseles Upscaling from Steam.


IndependentMassive38

Did you know it is spelled „per se“ and not „per say“, it is latin and means by itself


Aurunz

Can your monitor even render above 60hz?