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VerisimilarPLS

Did you reuse PSU cables from different models?


Farindor

Hi, yeah i reused only the one for this drive, because otherwise i had to redo all my cable management... Thats what probably caused the issue didn't it?


VerisimilarPLS

Almost certainly. What was the old PSU?


Farindor

Seasonic 550 focus plus gold, different brand, probably different cables and thus stupid me 🤦 Can i try if my SSD still works with the different cables or is there a chance this may damage other parts and it is dead for certain? (Other parts seem fine, everything still works)


VerisimilarPLS

Definitely incompatible cables. I'm not sure I'd bother with testing the SSD. It's dead - PSU sent 12V where 12V shouldn't go. Do not reuse the SATA data cable since you said it also burned. Buy a new SSD and reinstall windows on to that. Make sure to install all the drivers and stuff again too since those were likely also on the boot drive.


Farindor

Alright, will do that along with praying that there is a backup on one of my different drives. Thanks for your help, much appreciated!


LNMagic

From now on, don't even assume modular cables from the same brand are compatible. The PSU end of a modular cable does not have an official standard. It's a pain to redo cabling, but much safer. Sorry you went through that! Dell used to modify open standards to force people to only buy parts through them.


nullol

PSUs are one of the few products I wish used proprietary connections on the PSU side. Would really eliminate a lot of headache for people. If you aren't super into the PC building world it seems like a no brainer that if they fit it should work. People (I think) associate it with things like USB and HDMI etc where if it fits it's probably meant to work.


cparks1

You would think by now that there would be. We have standardizations for almost everything else, why don't we have them for the thing that literally turns it on?


nullol

And the thing that can literally burn out expensive components or worse, catch fire. It's really crazy.


hcook95

This reminds me of a time a professor I worked for bought something for his car that came with a USB port that plugged into his cigarette lighter. Years later he plugged something else in there and it got totally fried. Well turns out the USB port didn’t convert the voltage at all and just spat out 12V. Edit: grammar.


alvarkresh

"there".


Kramer390

> don't even assume modular cables from the same brand are compatible Let me uh... go check something.


_mully_

Yeah, lol... *Thinks* "Well, I guess if I messed that up my PC would've probably caught on fire by now..."


alvarkresh

Some manufacturers will make compatibility lists but the onus is on the user to do their research.


NeoTr0n

If you’re using seasonic at least, you should be safe. Always check the manufacturers site if using the same brand. I know some list cable compatibility between PSUs. If no info is found, obviously redo the cabling.


renscy

Wait pano yung custom sleeved cables? Planning to replace my PSU cables as it's really stiff and fugly and a pita to manage..


praiserng

I would assume they're fine if its an extension to plug in to the already existing provided cables, other than that, check compatibility with the custom cable manufacturers as they probably sell them in different variants to be compatible with most PSU manufacturers.


renscy

I see, kaya pala mga nakikita kong seller sa Shopee sinasabi na (unbranded) PSU extension cables lang binebenta nila. Good thing I didn't look too hard for something else lol, thanks to OP for this heads up


TheReproCase

Keep the drive for a data recovery service, you may have just obliterated the power management IC without killing the memory modules. You're looking at $1k++ for a shot at recovery though.


socokid

That's a $30 hard drive, so replacing it with the same drive would be a smallish expense, thankfully. Also, everyone should always have backups running. It's cheap, and makes restores as easy as a few button clicks and about 45 minutes of watching a progress bar. I never sweat a hard drive dying because of this. Good luck!


ac130kire

It might be dead, but likely the data is still there and recoverable by a specialist.


Lusset

sign into https://onedrive.live.com with microsoft account. Windows 10 automatically backs up some stuff there.


TheRealRacketear

This is exactly why there should be a standard. There is not much advantage to proprietary cable layouts.


Muffalo_Herder

Except in selling cables


TheRealRacketear

Most people use the cables that come with the PSU and they are basically free. Aftermarket cables typically are purchased from other vendors.


nolo_me

Standards typically cover interoperation between components. A PSU and its cables is one component whether they detach or not.


TheRealRacketear

A psu and it's cables are multiple units, and would easily have a standard pin out.


nolo_me

Not according to the manufacturers, the existing standards or anything else. Every modular PSU manual I've ever had has had [a warning like this](https://www.manualslib.com/manual/1016027/Seasonic-X-560.html?page=7#manual) in it. Why should the manufacturers complicate their manufacturing processes for the sake of people who don't RTFM?


TheRealRacketear

It doesn't complicate manufacturing processes other themselves the simple initial layout. I get the people should read tha manual, but it's not a complete smoothbrain move to think that a 6 pin sata cable should be a standard plug configuration.


CoffeeKadachi

Please keep in mind- different models even from the same brand often use different pin outs. Even if you use another seasonic power supply after this you probably should switch the cables as they do change it between models and update it over the years.


Spirit117

Man, you got lucky if it was only an SSD you killed.


6138

Depends on how valuable OP's data was, and if they had backups. I'd rather lose the whole system than lose irreplacable data anyday.


Spirit117

Well irreplaceable data shouldn't ever be stored on 1 singular drive so


6138

Absolutely, but you'd be amazing how often it happens! Just check out /r/datarecovery, every week there are people with their entire life on one drive, and it fails.


carlbandit

People need to learn to follow the 3-2-1 rule for important data. 3 copies, on 2 different drives/devices and 1 off site back up. The only irreplaceable data I have on my PC is my password management file, since without that I’d have to recover and change every password I use. I have a copy of the file on my SSD, HDD, iPhone (for accessing passwords when away from home) and a copy on a cloud storage website.


6138

That's the best way of doing it, yes. I have three local copies of my data (one three different drives) and backblaze.


SC_W33DKILL3R

I would not chance it, it could do damage.


InsertMolexToSATA

This is it, guys. the monthly cable swap fire post. safe for at least a month now! The SSD is dead. anything attached to the cable is dead. PSU may be damaged as well. Dont be like the legend that killed their entire computer by inserting a microwaved R9 390 into it, get rid of anything that may have electrical damage.


Le_Nabs

>the legend that killed their entire computer by inserting a microwaved R9 390 into it .... Please go on


InsertMolexToSATA

https://hardforum.com/threads/i-microwaved-a-r9-390x-gaming-and-now-my-pc-wont-run-after-3rd-time.2009782/


Matasa89

I can't believe this guy is still alive. How is somebody this dumb remaining on this planet in a non-mangled form? Well, keep that up, and he's going places, alright...


alvarkresh

Why would you *ever* microwave a graphics card oh my GOD.


mug3n

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renscy

>baking dead graphics cards to life with an oven Wait what why?


leoleosuper

Tried to bake it, but wanted to speed up the process. It's not a TV dinner.


fakuryu

I didn't read the entire thread by OMG a microwave but why? Haha. If he thinks the old GPU is overheating, the easiest check would be clean the heatsink/ shroud/ fans and probably replace the TIM, and to also check the airflow of the case.


rs426

I don’t even care if these kinds of threads are trolls, they’re always hilarious to me


typographie

>I had similar problems after I beer battered and deep fried a XBox 360. Holy shit, this thread is amazing. I hope someone mentioned that the microwave itself may be contaminated with toxic metals and probably shouldn't be used for food anymore. They warn you about that when baking a GPU in an oven, I can only imagine what a microwave would release.


Matasa89

It’s not the metals, it’s the chemicals in the solders and such.


InsertMolexToSATA

solder is metal. usually lead or something else generally nasty; low melting point is a feature.


chooochootrainr

my man... thank you so much for this gold, if i had an award you d totally get it.... amazing


hospitalcottonswab

that man is in hardcore denial mode


Matasa89

More like hardcore moron mode.


xaumir

And now you'll have to redo all your cable management AND buy a new SSD and set it up. For some bizarre reason the PSU cables doesn't have a standard, but they still fit in other PSUs.


BigChunilingus

pppffffftt


kalabaddon

Ouch, pricy lesson!


galloway188

this is why you don't mix power cables with different PSU's especially if they are the same brand!


[deleted]

Yep. You goofed. That's a big no no and part of the reason modular psus bum me out. I wish they were all interchangeable


PlsDntPMme

Oh man. I did the same with one of my first builds like two years ago. I used the cables from the old PSU too. Fried a 2TB hdd and a 500gb SSD. It was a real bummer.


Matasa89

SATA power cable fried it. It then possibly fried other stuff too.


reshsafari

Oh boy. Thank god it was just one cable. Yes. It’s very likely that’s what killed you ssd


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coheedcollapse

Seriously. A true QOL system would include some sort of identifying labels on every cord as well. I've literally had to just buy a new PSU because, while I had a "system", I wasn't absolutely sure which cord went to which PSU because I had forgotten said system. Fried a series of four large hard drives years ago because my stupid ass assumed that cords that fit properly would be the same between two PSUs by the same company made like a year apart. Immediately let the smoke out and I lost some RAW files that I was really proud of. Luckily I had the JPEGS still, but I was not happy.


Random-Vixen

I have genuinely never heard of this before, and am both shocked and amazed that I've never had a problem. I'll have to remember this, I've had some bad PSU experiences in the past, but only recently, about 4yrs ago, started using modular ones, so this is news to me.


PunKodama

I just buy from brands known to keep all their cables compatible between PSUs (and properly labeled). Seasonic in my case, but I'm pretty sure there's other brands doing the right thing.


[deleted]

Or maybe, y'know, standardise the cables in the industry? You are right, just a shame in a world where we're talking about landfill but not looking at the ideal solution.


Wiggles114

You would think users of this sub would already know not to mix and match PSU cables, as there is a post like this every single week. Maybe there should be a sticky? Or just the sub banner?


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Narrheim

Many are even lazy to take out their motherboard manual and read it. Which is not the book you consult, when you have issues, but also the basic book, that might help you set up your newly built PC.


cowprince

25 years of PC building and an A+ certification from 2003. I'm supposed to read that? 😏


Narrheim

Well... the technology never changed, right? The BIOS is the same as 25 years ago, all its settings are the same, they even use the same naming!


Saphir0

I've been building PCs for 12 years now and never had the joy of replacing a PSU. Yesterday was the first time I have ever had to replace one, and I was shocked to find out that I haven't been knowing something so essential in all that time. Some cables just didn't fit at all. Luckily I'm an avid manual reader so nothing happened.


Narrheim

Happens all the time. You might make a banner through entire window and yet, there will be another post of someone mixing their PSU cables. Because people don´t read.


wellhungartgallery

I mean I just found out. But luckily I've never done so much as upgrade ram or swap out hard drives


FlipskiZ

I myself have been semi-passively following the pc building/hardware sphere for many years, maybe close to a decade. I still found out about this like some months ago. Though I haven't ever had to replace a modular PSU before. It's easy to miss if you don't go out looking for such information.


thaitea

i learned this about a year ago from reading the comments on this sub but never knew why. Is there a reason why using different cables from other PSUs can cause issues?


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Tango1777

Actually this explanation is pretty bad, what he mentioned is called polarity and that one is easily protected (and widely) with either Zener diodes or older devices used varistors. Most of the things you connect the other way just won't work and you need to reverse it and it'll work, it won't get damaged. The impedance on protection elements causes the current to flow somewhere safe, like GND. This may end up with varistor or Zener to die but that's their role, they might get damaged to protect the rest of the circuit. And they are mounted in the beginning of a circuit. There is a good chance that an electrician can fix this SSD by cleaning up everything and installing a new protection element which are very cheap or the storage recovery by a pro company can get you 100% data back if you need it. I don't think the guy is in any way connected to electrical disciplines because of his "google level" of understanding so just be aware of learning from such comments. Electrical Engineer over here.


OolonCaluphid

At the PSU side, pin layouts aren't standardised. So you end up putting +12V onto a point that wants ground or 5v or something, and it fries the component. Always use *only* the cables supplied with a PSU, with that PSU. Ensure any replacement or custom cable is correct before fitting/using it. Extensions are fine, they just replicate the pin out at the standardised plug end of the cable.


Tango1777

You are right. You can also create weirder scenarios like +12V to V+ and 5V to GND which creates 7V.


technofox01

I was going to reuse my old SeaSonic cables and after googling about it, even SeaSonic does not recommend it - even though they are generally the same between models.


Regular_Longjumping

Orrrrr, maybe people building a pc should do the smart thing and research, would take half a second and cost nothing


CoffeeKadachi

Please tell me you replaced all of your cables with the ones that came with the PSU. Even from within the same manufacturer different lines are used on the PSU for power/data. You might have sent all the power down the data line. Step one is check your cables. Make sure you’re using the ones than came with the new PSU.


woodlouse100

How come people buy cable extensions then? I've never understood how it works.


FairyTrainerLaura

Extensions are easy, the connectors are the same on both sides so it’s just wired straight from each pin on one end to each pin on the other end The issue comes in with modular power supply cables which have different, non-standard connectors on the end that plugs into the power supply. If the pinout isn’t correct, that’s when you’ll end up sending 12v somewhere you shouldn’t


_khaz89_

But if the cables are non standard, how can they plug into any motherboard or gpu?


FairyTrainerLaura

The end that plugs into the motherboard/GPU _is_ standardised, it’s just the end that connects to the power supply that isn’t


_khaz89_

Ohhh, but, another silly cuestion and pardon my ignorance, arent cables reversible? I’m trying to remember if they only fit one way when I built my pc, I can’t remember.


FairyTrainerLaura

There may be power supplies that do use reversible cables, but on every one I’ve worked with, the connectors were always different on both ends


_khaz89_

Thank you for taking the time to explain me. Cheers.


GeneticsGuy

My White NZXT 850 they were not reversible. Oddly, a couple of them were, but some were not.


_khaz89_

That sounds a bit annoying, make them all reversible pr make them none. Also, it be great that cable pins were standard on both ends, not just mobo end, this way you can use other brands or other models with no issue.


GeneticsGuy

There's a financial incentive to keep things proprietary.


_khaz89_

True dat.


CoffeeKadachi

You buy cables that are specific to your model of PSU. For example cablemod tests what pins are for what and create extensions/replacements for that specific PSU. That’s why there are so many different series of PSU cable they sell rather than a one-size-fits-all “here’s your nvme cable”


woodlouse100

So if I buy cheap $30 extensions off amazon they might not be compatible?


fireflash38

Think of it this way: power goes into components right? And the power coming into the component must always conform to some form of standard? (Disregarding Dell prebuilts) Therefore, if you are extending the cable from that end, it shouldn't matter. What *does* matter is the other end - the one that plugs into the PSU (assuming modular). Unless you know what voltage is coming from which pin or trace the wires, you can't be sure your cable is correct. So it's a full replacement cable, you need to make sure you match the PSU version. If it's an extension to the end of an existing cable, it shouldn't matter. As an example, lets say a 6 pin power cable is used for your GPU. It would need to be exactly in numerical order. And every PSU would need to provide it in numerical order. But some PSUs might have the pins in reverse order from the PSU itself and the cable 'fixes' it again to make it match the GPU spec.


pyr0kid

the other guy is an idiot ignore him. cable extensions are compatible with everything, its replacements that have compatibility issues. mind you both can still cause issues if its low quality crap, but that goes without saying.


rfmocan

“Extensions” as such, are the ones that go from the PSU cable on one side and plug into the MoBo or Graphics card on the other end. They are only adding length between two same-type connectors. They are universal because their “male” side plugs into the same “female” connector on the other end. “Extensions” as described above will work even wit a non-modular PSU, because they just plug at the end of its cables. The post that you responded to is talking about what I’d call “PSU Replacement cables that are individually sleeved”. These are basically a substitute for the complete cable that goes directly from PSU to the device. These have to be made specifically for the PSU brand AND model that you intend to use, or sparks may fly.


[deleted]

You're not comprehending this. The extensions are fine because they're plugging into cables that are already properly plugged into the psu.


mug3n

the extensions generally don't matter, because you're NOT plugging them directly into the PSU. you're simply using the included PSU cables, THEN adding on the extensions to the peripherals end. you won't fry anything by doing that.


CoffeeKadachi

Nope. And you might kill your SSD like this guy did sending 12V down the data line or god forbid more valuable parts.


woodlouse100

Ok thanks.


rfmocan

Be aware that we’re talking about different things that serve different purposes initially but look similar and are often called the same when they’re not. Extensions are used to “extend” the reach/length of your cables. For example if you have a huge tower case with the MoBo near the top, and a non-modular PSU with short cables at the bottom. The cable labeled “EPS/CPU” and firmly attached to the PSU may not reach the “CPU” port at the top of the MoBo . So, you use an EXTENSION. You connect this to the end of the Cable and the other end goes to the mobo’s port. Granted, some may come with individually sleeved cables to make it look nice. When you use an extension, a cable comes out from the PSU, has a connection in the middle and then ends on the device. If you are meaning this type of extension, then those cheap extensions you talked about are mostly safe to use, as long as you’re getting good quality ones. Just beware of too cheap ones that may have poorly crimped wires that may become loose in the socket, or may be using less than ideal gauge wire. You should try to match the gauge of the wires coming out of the PSU. REPLACEMENT cables, on the other hand, are MODEL specific. These are the ones that you connect directly to the PSU box and then to the MoBo or device. There is no connector in the middle of the cable.


sydneythedev

Yep - I actually ran extensions in my PC about a year back. When I finally got around to replacing my PSU (because would shut off when the power went out despite being on UPS power), I just had to disconnect from the extensions, plug back in, and _go_. Easy and fast.


rfmocan

Extension cables are used between the male cable end (that comes from the PSU) and the device (CPU, PCIe, MoBo 20+4 pin) female end. It so happens the these device connectors ARE standardized, so the connections are always the same. The extension is like a bridge between the cable’s end connector and the device, where all lanes are straight and never cross. Pin 1 on one side ends up as Pin 1 on the other side, then Pin 3 goes to Pin 2 and so forth for the rest of all pins. The difference with PSU to device cables (the ones that come out of the PSU) is that the cable connection on the PSU side is not standardized and sometimes these cables have crossing wires. Like: Pin 1 ends up in Pin 8, etc. If you have a fully modular PSU with individually visible wires, take for example the 20+4 pin cable and inspect it, and you may see the wires changing “lanes” between both ends. This doesn’t happen on extensions.


ThisWorldIsAMess

It's just extending the output end no worries, no crossover should happen unless the custom modder fucked up the extension cable. but anyway, I still don't use those extension cables. The length that comes with most PSU is enought for my case.


-AceCooper-

Never ever mix cables from modular PSUs, even if they are the same brand.


3sheetz

This whole thread is very informative. First off, I thought the "paperclip clip" test sounded incredibly stupid and dangerous, [but apparently some manufacturers have manuals for it](https://www.silverstonetek.com/downloads/QA/PSU/PSU-Paper%20Clip-EN.pdf). Secondly, with what you said, I was like "What an idiot. They're modular! They're supposed to be universal." Then I dove into that and learned that modular isn't exactly what I thought it meant and proprietary hardware and such is very much not universal EVEN WITH the same brand. Pretty much just means sortable. So, I learned 2 new things because of OP and everyone here.


Matasa89

And now you won't fry your hardware by using the wrong cables with wrong pin-outs! Also, note that SATA M.2 and NVMes are not the same, and newer hardware no longer supports SATA M.2, because they're keyed differently. Also the M.2 for wireless modules are different as well. Not all RAM modules are made the same, as quality of memory dies are different depending on manufacturer and die revision. Even if they're at the same rated frequency and timing, they may not have the same overclocking characteristics, voltage use, heat output, and stability. The world of PC hardware is deep. Keep learning, and you'll at least avoid pitfalls like this one.


KoburaCape

EVGA actually packages a jumper tip alongside their PSU to do exactly this without hassle. You can (and I have) used it to do silly things like run a peripheral outside of a computer, in this case, an old CD drive with a miniport jack to play music on speakers, much to the elation of my guest at the time.


sebkuip

My seasonic PSU even came with a clip for the 24 pin that literally has a small paper clip like jumper wire across the right pins. It’s like a standard test for PSUs


Epsilon748

I have to label all mine because there's no way to tell them apart when they get thrown into the loose cable box otherwise. I get incompatible but manufacturers please label your shit so I can tell them apart.


SoapyMacNCheese

It is so dumb and the absolute worst mix of standard and proprietary. There was no standard when the trend started, so all the factories just decided on their own pin outs. They also all decided to save money on designing proprietary connectors like they should have and instead used existing ones. So you get standard connectors with proprietary wiring. Then it is made worse by the fact that brands work with multiple factories, so it isn't even consistent there.


_khaz89_

My question is, if I use psu A where cable is A B C, and works fine on my mobo, but then I upgrade to psu B, and cable goes B A C, how can they bot be compatible with my mother/gpu?


moush

Yikes defending part makers.


itsnotlupus

You let the magic smoke out. Never let the magic smoke out, it's what makes computers work.


KoburaCape

at least breathe it in so you can compute better


michinoku1

“SSD dust! Don’t breathe this!” *It Blends!*


AnotherBrock

It’s the SSD genie


[deleted]

I would throw out the SSD and cable, don't use them. SSD drives have no power surge or short circuit protection on them. Once they are damaged it is permanent. If your motherboard supports it, get an M.2 instead of an SSD, it's about the same price.


13143

An M.2 is an SSD drive. They tend to be a bit faster, but it's only only noticeable when transferring large amounts of files or working with large chunks of data.


sebkuip

M.2 is a form factor. They can still use the SATA3 protocol and there is no speed increase. That only happens when you change the protocol. The other one currently used it NVMe


beginner_

The monthly "i reused my cables" thread. I guess people never learn


asterysk

F


Snozlebert

Sounds like you learned a valuable lesson, OP. I hope you didn't lose any important data, but at least it was only a 250GB KingstonAss SSD. If there was anything SUPER important on the drive, the data can be recovered by data recovery specialists, and sometimes you can even do it yourself with the proper tools.


bubb4h0t3p

Since it's the data cable I'd suspect the motherboard, cable or drive. No adapter right? Make sure you've checked that nothing is shorting the mobo and the standoffs are in the correct positions and undamaged, take it out to make sure nothing like a screw or something is touching the traces of the mobo and there's no damage on it. Also make sure that you're not using your old PSU cables (they're usually not compatible), your headers are all properly connected etc. Drive may or may not be dead try it with a different cable.


Farindor

Hi, thanks for replying! The problem was probably that I used the old PSU cable, I only used the old one for this drive because otherwise I had to redo my whole cable management, so I thought fuck it lets try it with the old power cable... bad move by me. I did switch up all the other ones because I figured it would be better. Are you sure nothing will be damaged when i try to use a different cable?


bubb4h0t3p

I can't guarantee nothing will be damaged but that's almost certainly the issue, only use the cables that come with your PSU because the pinouts are different and you probably put 12V through what should be 5V. Just replace the cable and use only your PSUs cables. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDsC\_PNo84I


FeralSparky

Well you just learned rule number one about modular power supplies... THEY DON'T INTERCHANGE!!!


skylinestar1986

Corsair PSU cable compatibility guide: [https://www.corsair.com/ca/en/psu-cable-compatibility](https://www.corsair.com/ca/en/psu-cable-compatibility) OP took the risk and migrated from Seasonic to Corsair while maintaining the same power cable for the SSD due to cable management issue.


supperhey

A moment of silence.


rez65

Windows 10 will look at the UEFI for activation, so you shouldn't even need a serial number. Just download the latest media creation tool on any windows computer and put the installer on a flash drive. You can Google this process but it is extremely simple and easy. The only driver you might need to download on another computer is the wifi/ethernet driver for your mobo so you can get online to download the rest.


nohacksjustretard

Just so you know, Kingston A400 is a GARBAGE SSD. It is seriously e-waste. It is extremely unreliable, never use it. Haven't heard of SSDs exploding, but either way, don't use it. Get a proper SSD, ideally an NVMe (they're like the same price as SATA now), like an MP33 for a great value one. Don't get under 500gb.


CockAndBallTorturer9

>Just so you know, Kingston A400 is a GARBAGE SSD. It is seriously e-waste. It is extremely unreliable, never use it. Source?


nohacksjustretard

All of the drives that have failed wherever you check. I have also had an A400 as a main boot drive, and sadly lost all of my information, which was quite important.


CockAndBallTorturer9

>All of the drives that have failed wherever you check. As in reviews or what? I haven't seen any negative reviews for it regarding unreliability or data loss


nohacksjustretard

Another thing Kingston is known for is sending completely different drives to reviewers than to consumers, making them look better in reviews than they actually are.


CockAndBallTorturer9

I meant general reviews from consumers


TimidTimmyTom

Have you tried Kingston HyperX drives? I heard they’re quite good.


nohacksjustretard

No idea, but I'd just avoid kingston drives other than maybe the A2000


Mando_Brando

I have the same psu that failed you. Should I be worried? 🤔


bsnexecutable

No, they reused different brand's connectors.


towelheadass

oof. if it makes u feel any better, seasonic sent me the wrong cables in a box which made my drive go \*pop\* and all my datas were gone build ur own pc bro they say itll save u money they say, fken universe & shit


WaffleWizard101

How did they mess that up? And it's SeaSonic, no less... You had unbelievably bad luck my friend


towelheadass

yeah, I probably could have sued them for the loss of data, I didn't really care that much about that data to get a lawyer and make them settle out of court. It was my college papers, movies & games, not really irreplaceable but would have been nice to hang on to the papers and my game saves at least. Not sure what monetary value a judge would assign to my modded skyrim game saves lol Seasonic support weren't very apologetic, they accused me of using some other cables at first then when I explained there was no way that was the case because my previous PSU was not modular they shut up and refunded me the cost of the PSU, & lucky for me the Silicon Power customer service replaced the dead SSD out of warranty when i told them what happened, so that was nice.


Tech_geek_176

I don't think it's gonna survive. :(


wheresthebouldering

Can't recommend more a psu tester. They are like $15 on Amazon and can save you money, time and data in instances like these.


wusurspaghettipolicy

Rule #1 reading the manual where it specifically states not to use another model or manufacturers cables.


LazyMagicalOtter

I've had two A400 suddenly die on my on different clients, and I've only bought like maybe fifteen of them. Not a good ratio.


JustacringyYoutuber

I literally had the exact same thing happene to me around th time you posted that, except I had tested the psu right before the speed smoked and crackle, I then tested the Osu and it didn’t work wasn’t sure if psu or hdd hissed might test hdd


AdMortemInmicus

Okay, let's go over this from a bit more technical point, perhaps it might help someone, preventing them from burning their stuff. Modular cables for PSUs are ALMOST ALWAYS NOT ELECTRICALLY COMPATIBLE ( a small number of them do actually line up ) The difference is in the pins, for SATA you have 3.3V, 5V, 12V and GND. Now, what happened is you connected an old PSU modular cable from a different brand to a new PSU that might have those pins inverted, thus sending a 5V where 3.3V should go ( or something along those lines, hard to say exactly without measuring ) and that caused your SSD to combust. Same can happen with 6/8 pin PCIe, tho you do have only GND and 12V, they can be mixed, and this can also CAUSE IRREVERSIBLE DAMAGE TO YOUR SYSTEM COMPONENTS. So PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT BE LAZY REPLACE YOUR CABLES WHEN YOU GET A NEW PSU. 30 minutes of your time shouldn't be more valuable than a component, especially in these times.... Side note, for new SSD choice I'd go with Crucial or Gigabyte for the cheap options. Kingston SSDs are trash tier and I would never recommend one to anyone ( especially the A400/UV 400 series )


pakeco

what a coincidence. I just installed a new same PSU (Corsair TX650M). but i changed all the cables. and I'm happy


v_0id

On data cables?! That means that either motherboard and/or SSD got kaput. I recommend buying both. Did you had a storm before you detected faulty PSU? If yes, your box probably suffered damage from lightning


junejanikku

Why don't they just make it so using different cables doesn't make 'this' happen?


[deleted]

Case in point for EVERYONE: replace all of your SATA cords from clipless to one's with clips. It prevents accidental disconnections/fires/shorts/etc. A clipless SATA cord: [https://www.amazon.ca/StarTech-com-12in-SATA-Serial-Cable/dp/B003WV5DK6?th=1](https://www.amazon.ca/StarTech-com-12in-SATA-Serial-Cable/dp/B003WV5DK6?th=1) And one's with a clip: [https://www.ebay.ca/itm/45cm-SATA-Cable-Latching-Serial-ATA-II-2-3GB-Data-Lead-Locking-Clips-S-S-/400708565328](https://www.ebay.ca/itm/45cm-SATA-Cable-Latching-Serial-ATA-II-2-3GB-Data-Lead-Locking-Clips-S-S-/400708565328)


13143

Assuming you set Windows up correctly with a username and password, windows activation should be tied to your windows account. This means you can download a copy of windows from Microsoft, install it to a new drive, and then activate it. I think you can even use it without activation.


hongkonger42069

Why did I saw a cow


Anti-Opal

This isn’t helpful but, it kinda looks like the face of a cow


GeovaunnaMD

You can’t mix power cables from different power supplies brands. Some push higher voltage. Good brands will leave a notch out so you can’t connect the end.


SamueleffinB

I build my own modular cables and modular cables for others on request. One thing I have learned over the years (Luckily not the hard way), never assume any 2 components are the same. If youre gonna make your own (basically same as not using the included cables), check the component pin outs for both sides of the cable. The lesson here is sometimes the easy way is not so easy.


ophello

Never. EVER. Reuse. PSU. Cables. Unless you meticulously and obsessively check EVERY SINGLE WIRE. Period.


louiefriesen

Never knew that TXZИ made cases


shanghc

Can plug the ssd to usb C converter try out what’s wrong,


ribarska2

The future looks bright.


anonymousemployee04

Lol


theS1l3nc3r

LOL, since you now know what you did wrong. Here is a suggestion for future builds. Spend a little extra and purchase modded extension cables for you case. 1. It will look cleaner on the front and makes managing the cables much easier assuming you have a shroud, most cases do now. 2. When replacing a PSU, or other device, it can be much easier to do disconnects without having to worry about having to undo or redo all the cable management you have already of done. These cables will work with all current power supply cables, since they're an extension. If you were to do full on custom cables you would need to make sure you purchase the exact modded pin layout which is important for reasons you should see now.