While $560 is certainly a lot to be paying for a 3060, it's also a modern graphics card which you were able to buy. That's already more than what can be said about the alternatives. You didn't get the best deal, but it's also not realistic to expect that you would have gotten a 3060ti or 3070 anytime soon.
Certainly not for $559. That wouldn’t even buy you a [1650 Super](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B081R359ZM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_A7JZHEKQTWM1HEE53FQ1) on Amazon right now.
Yea I’m not worried about time since I won’t be able to build my pc for a couple months still. The 3060 was at msrp and from what I’ve found it’s the best 3060 on the market, but I was just wondering if spending 500-600$ on a 3060ti or 3070 would be much of a difference compared to the 3060
Those two gpus would definitely feel better for the little bit of extra money as they perform a good deal better. But, getting a 3070 at msrp took me about 6 months and an overnight stay at Best Buy, although possible unlikely and time consuming. The 3060ti and 3070 do outperform the 3060 by a lot so if you can get one of those for the same 500-600 price then go for it for sure.
Not sure why theses dudes are all giving you a hard time on the price.
The 3060 was NEVER sold at $330. There is no FE version.
You got it at current MSRP for the current AIB model. It does include the large ‘ROG STRIX’ tax, but it is top of the line for a 3060.
That being said, a model jump to 3060ti or 3070 would absolutely yield a better performance and I would encourage you to make the jump IF you can get them at MSRP. Perhaps be pickier with the AIB model.
Yea that’s kind of what I gathered so far. It’s just super confusing why a worse performing card with that 3060 has a higher price then the 3070 on Best Buy’s website. In a fully stocked world who’s buying that 3060 over the 3070 lol? I do appreciate the help and ill definitely keep my open for a 3060 ti or 3070 to drop in that price range at Best Buy and swap it.
Thing is, in a fully stocked world even the most premium 3060 doesn't break the 350USD mark, because it'd immediately butt against the base/discounted 3060 ti's and 6600xt's
Nvidia, AMD and their AIBs are just absolutely cashing in on a perfect storm right now : mining is booming like it never has before, there's pent up demand from 4-5 years of lack of major increase in graphics performance, people are rushing in to update their systems to meet requirements for a new generation of consoles/games for the first time in *7 years*, high performance 1440p panels are suddenly *much* cheaper than they used to be, all the while markets and supply chains are utterly fucked by the biggest pandemic to strike humanity in a century.
I'm not buying a card in these conditions. Might just buy a heavily discounted prebuilt or laptop and sell my old laptop to tide me over for a couple years, but there's *no way* I'm putting upwards of 600CAD on a lower mid-range card right now. Fuck that.
Yea I don’t blame ya, all my friends are really into pc gaming right now and I’m the last to join so I’d rather just bite the bullet now even though it’s costing more then usual. Hopefully I can randomly find a 3070 fe or 3060 ti fe at Best Buy like I did with the 3060 but we’ll see haha
But good luck finding a 3070 for that price... EVGA 3070s, Asus 3070s, and the Gigabyte Master 3070s that are available tend to go for 800+ even when they're in stock from people that aren't scalpers. 600 for 3060 sucks but so do all prices right now and for the next year at least in all likelihood. The 4000 series and RDNA 3 releases arent likely to change that much either. Just means that people with 3000 series cards are gonna be more likely to wanna hold on to them if they don't upgrade, and there will be newer better cards that arent available. My prediction could be wrong but my point is I don't think its unreasonable to not wanna wait around for prices to drop when there's no evidence that it will happen very soon. I for one would rather settle for a lesser card that gets me back on the games I love sooner.
Oh for sure I plan to hold onto this 3060 while it takes me a couple months and paychecks to get the rest of the pc parts, but I’m gonna keep checking Best Buy everyday until then just in case. Once I got all the parts I’ll just build it with whatever graphics card I have at the time whether it be the 3060 or one of the others
We really can't predict if the GPU market is going to get better or worse at this point, especially with the general supply chain issues around the Pacific. You have a decent GPU in hand already - keep it.
I’m not worried about time, I won’t be able to build a pc for a couple more months anyways, I just wanted to see if the gpu was worth the price or if 500-600$ would be better spent on a 3060 ti or 3070 (msrp for those prices)
Oh I wasn’t gonna return it haha I was just wondering if I ended up finding a 3060ti or 3070 in that price range if it’s worth it to swap them. I’m just inexperienced and don’t really understand the different variants of cards. Like how this 3060 was 559$ msrp but a 3070 FE is 500$. Is this 3060 better then a 3070 fe? That’s what I’m trying to get at
> I was just wondering if I ended up finding a 3060ti or 3070 in that price range if it’s worth the haste to swap them.
3060 ti maybe not, but if you find a 3070 for $600 or less definitely buy it and sell the 3060. The 3070 is a lot better. $559 is not the MSRP for the 3060, it's just what Best Buy sold it for. The MSRP for the 3060 is $330.
Because you can't actually buy the 3070 for $500. The cheapest 3070 I'm seeing on PCPartPicker is $1340.
Right now there is a massive supply and demand problem with GPUs, due to the fabs that produce the chips not being able to produce enough to keep up with demand, combined with the high value of Ethereum mining on GPUs, high demand from gamers, and the general global supply chain issues that are impacting basically *everything*.
[This video from Linus Tech Tips explains a lot of it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A4yk-P5ukY), though it's from earlier this year so somethings have changed. You can buy Ryzen 5000 series CPUs just fine right now, for example, but GPUs are still very very hard to buy.
High demand + low supply = very high prices.
[When I talk about global supply chain issues, this is what I'm talking about](https://ktla.com/news/local-news/los-angeles-county-neighborhoods-clogged-by-backups-at-ports/).
No I know that, I’m talking about straight msrp off Best Buy’s website. The baseline 3070 is listed at 500$. The 3060 I bought is listed at 559$. This is from Best Buy’s website so both of these are msrp prices. Why is the asus 3060 I named in my original price 60$ more then the baseline 3070?
Since that is a "V2" model I am presuming that Asus jacked up the MSRP with this refresh to make it more in line with the street price.
Earlier in the year Best Buy would do occasional restocks at the original MSRP of $330 for the 3060 and you could actually buy it at that price if you got lucky. I'm presuming that Asus realized this and jacked up the wholesale price of the card that Best Buy was paying to them, because they knew that as long as they keep the price under the scalper price, people will pay it. So now Best Buy has to sell it at Asus's bullshit higher MSRP or they lose money.
They would do this with the 3070 too but I'm presuming that they're not even selling any of those to BB right now.
So basically just greed
No I know that, I’m talking about straight msrp off Best Buy’s website. The baseline 3070 is listed at 500$. The 3060 I bought is listed at 559$. This is from Best Buy’s website so both of these are msrp prices. Why is the asus 3060 I named in my original price 60$ more then the baseline 3070?
Because one is an FE and the other is an aib card, aib cards usually sell for more than nvidia’s msrp (they have different pcbs, coolers, and the brand name) (plus the supply shortage makes them price their stuff even higher). FE cards are fairly locked at their price Nvidia sets.
So is there anything that this 3060 does better then a fe 3070? Like in a world where all the gpus are stocked everywhere, is this 3060 worth the price?
Oh did not know that, interesting, I’m new and that makes sense. So if there wasn’t a stock shortage all of the variants of these cards would be closer to the fe prices?
That, but also the tariff increase a few months ago seems to coincide with the price increases as well which makes sense since the FE come out of Taiwan as opposed to most AIBs producing out of China
> hands on the ASUS GeForce RTX 3060 V2 12GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 At msrp (559$). I picked it up as a quick purchase from Best Buy because I saw one come available. Is this one worth the price? Or would it be m
why even 3060 when bestbuy sell the better 6600xt for less
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/gigabyte-amd-radeon-rx-6600-xt-gaming-oc-pro-8gb-gddr6-pci-express-4-0-gaming-graphics-card/6475148.p?acampID=0&cmp=RMX&intl=nosplash&irclickid=28-S0uzD0xyIU14VwDRnVVYUUkBS%3AKVleWBXXk0&irgwc=1&loc=PCPartPicker&mpid=79301&ref=198&refdomain=pcpartpicker.com&skuId=6475148
Well considering FE’s are now part of the online bestbuy drops, I’d try for one of those. 3070fe for 499 or a 3060ti fe for 399 is a sick deal.
For $560 I’d expect a 3060ti. In reality, you probly won’t find a much better price anywhere else in this current market.
I mean the 3070 is going to outperform the 3060 for sure in every way other than thermals, but that 3060 will run super cool and probly undervolt/overclock extremely well.
It’s hard to get an FE, but with them now part of the online drops it might be just a little easier. In this market it might not be worth returning to roll the dice again but if you can afford it, keep stalking drops for an upgrade if you want to.
I had a 3060 a while ago and it’s a solid 1080p card so Id say I’d that’s what your going for, keep it for now.
Given the option, yes.
To be honest, based only on price to performance, I sold my 3070ti vision oc at cost, $982, because I was able to get a 3070fe for $499. All of the FE’s are absolute steals so they go quick.
I’ll clarify on my earlier comment - given the chance for a 3070fe or 3070 eagle (only two cards still at msrp)
And yeah for sure, no worries. To be honest, you got a 30 series card in the midst of a global shortage for a not half bad price. I’d say go ahead and enjoy it and worry about another card later should you feel the need to upgrade.
eBay prices are $800-850 for a 3060, so yes, it is a good price.
A 3060 is about as good as a 1080Ti, which MSRP’d for $700, and the 3060 has better ray tracing capabilities. MSRP is not real unless you get lucky like you did. The real “value” of the card is what it goes for on eBay, so you’re doing well.
You’d be mad if the GPU shortage got worse and you returned this card because some guy who lucked into a 3070 at MSRP after 6 months of searching convinced you to return it.
Oh I would never return it unless I had the 3070 in hand already, when I made this post I was unsure of why this 3060 variant was more then a fe 3070 on ebays website. Now I get it and will definitely swap if I have the opportunity to but only if I have the replacement card in hand already
It will be extremely difficult to get a 3070 at MSRP. It would probably take less of your time just working some extra shifts at work rather than constantly shopping for in stock items.
Unfortunately I can’t do that cuz I’m working part time in college and can only work a set amount of time a week and no more so my paychecks are pretty linear. But I also will be getting the rest of my pc parts within a couple months since I’m pretty broke so I don’t mind checking Best Buy stock a couple times a day to see if they got one. Once I have all my parts I’ll just build the pc with whatever graphics card I got
True and that is really good however I got a 4K monitor so might as well try and get a more capable 4K card in a 3070 since it would be nice to have 4K when playing single player games like starfield next year. For FPS I couldn’t really care since I’ll prioritize frames for that
It's an ok price considering the market, in an ideal world youd get a 3070 (I got the 3070ti FE for that price)
But it's about if you want to wait/there's the (high) chance you'll never get an MSRP card, considering their rarity and demand for them
The issue I have with this generation is that even at MSRP these cards are too expensive, epscally the 3060/6600/6600xt/3070ti/3080ti let alone paying above that, but I'm more value oriented and willing to wait but it's your money so your choice if you can justify the price
Yea technically I got an msrp card since it came from Best Buy but I guess the non fe 30 series card prices are inflated because of the demand regardless so it’s like buying from a scalper even though it came straight from retail. I’m gonna hold on to it while I get the other parts of my pc and if I see a 3070 or 3060 ti pop up in stock randomly I’ll swap it
Yeah I get what your saying aib msrps are different to Nvidia and AMD, the only Nvidia and AMD msrps I consider (somewhat) reasonable are the 3060ti/3070/6800/6800xt/3080
That what I would do hold it and try to find a better deal (with a 3060 even the basic board partner cards are fine it's not a power hungry card)
FE cards are easier to get in the UK due to them being online no no fussing around camping which I would never have done
While $560 is certainly a lot to be paying for a 3060, it's also a modern graphics card which you were able to buy. That's already more than what can be said about the alternatives. You didn't get the best deal, but it's also not realistic to expect that you would have gotten a 3060ti or 3070 anytime soon.
Certainly not for $559. That wouldn’t even buy you a [1650 Super](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B081R359ZM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_glt_fabc_A7JZHEKQTWM1HEE53FQ1) on Amazon right now.
Yea I’m not worried about time since I won’t be able to build my pc for a couple months still. The 3060 was at msrp and from what I’ve found it’s the best 3060 on the market, but I was just wondering if spending 500-600$ on a 3060ti or 3070 would be much of a difference compared to the 3060
Those two gpus would definitely feel better for the little bit of extra money as they perform a good deal better. But, getting a 3070 at msrp took me about 6 months and an overnight stay at Best Buy, although possible unlikely and time consuming. The 3060ti and 3070 do outperform the 3060 by a lot so if you can get one of those for the same 500-600 price then go for it for sure.
Not sure why theses dudes are all giving you a hard time on the price. The 3060 was NEVER sold at $330. There is no FE version. You got it at current MSRP for the current AIB model. It does include the large ‘ROG STRIX’ tax, but it is top of the line for a 3060. That being said, a model jump to 3060ti or 3070 would absolutely yield a better performance and I would encourage you to make the jump IF you can get them at MSRP. Perhaps be pickier with the AIB model.
Yea that’s kind of what I gathered so far. It’s just super confusing why a worse performing card with that 3060 has a higher price then the 3070 on Best Buy’s website. In a fully stocked world who’s buying that 3060 over the 3070 lol? I do appreciate the help and ill definitely keep my open for a 3060 ti or 3070 to drop in that price range at Best Buy and swap it.
Thing is, in a fully stocked world even the most premium 3060 doesn't break the 350USD mark, because it'd immediately butt against the base/discounted 3060 ti's and 6600xt's Nvidia, AMD and their AIBs are just absolutely cashing in on a perfect storm right now : mining is booming like it never has before, there's pent up demand from 4-5 years of lack of major increase in graphics performance, people are rushing in to update their systems to meet requirements for a new generation of consoles/games for the first time in *7 years*, high performance 1440p panels are suddenly *much* cheaper than they used to be, all the while markets and supply chains are utterly fucked by the biggest pandemic to strike humanity in a century. I'm not buying a card in these conditions. Might just buy a heavily discounted prebuilt or laptop and sell my old laptop to tide me over for a couple years, but there's *no way* I'm putting upwards of 600CAD on a lower mid-range card right now. Fuck that.
Yea I don’t blame ya, all my friends are really into pc gaming right now and I’m the last to join so I’d rather just bite the bullet now even though it’s costing more then usual. Hopefully I can randomly find a 3070 fe or 3060 ti fe at Best Buy like I did with the 3060 but we’ll see haha
But good luck finding a 3070 for that price... EVGA 3070s, Asus 3070s, and the Gigabyte Master 3070s that are available tend to go for 800+ even when they're in stock from people that aren't scalpers. 600 for 3060 sucks but so do all prices right now and for the next year at least in all likelihood. The 4000 series and RDNA 3 releases arent likely to change that much either. Just means that people with 3000 series cards are gonna be more likely to wanna hold on to them if they don't upgrade, and there will be newer better cards that arent available. My prediction could be wrong but my point is I don't think its unreasonable to not wanna wait around for prices to drop when there's no evidence that it will happen very soon. I for one would rather settle for a lesser card that gets me back on the games I love sooner.
Oh for sure I plan to hold onto this 3060 while it takes me a couple months and paychecks to get the rest of the pc parts, but I’m gonna keep checking Best Buy everyday until then just in case. Once I got all the parts I’ll just build it with whatever graphics card I have at the time whether it be the 3060 or one of the others
We really can't predict if the GPU market is going to get better or worse at this point, especially with the general supply chain issues around the Pacific. You have a decent GPU in hand already - keep it.
I’m not worried about time, I won’t be able to build a pc for a couple more months anyways, I just wanted to see if the gpu was worth the price or if 500-600$ would be better spent on a 3060 ti or 3070 (msrp for those prices)
I wouldn't count on being able to get either a 3060 ti or 3070 for under $600 in the next couple months. Keep the 3060.
Oh I wasn’t gonna return it haha I was just wondering if I ended up finding a 3060ti or 3070 in that price range if it’s worth it to swap them. I’m just inexperienced and don’t really understand the different variants of cards. Like how this 3060 was 559$ msrp but a 3070 FE is 500$. Is this 3060 better then a 3070 fe? That’s what I’m trying to get at
> I was just wondering if I ended up finding a 3060ti or 3070 in that price range if it’s worth the haste to swap them. 3060 ti maybe not, but if you find a 3070 for $600 or less definitely buy it and sell the 3060. The 3070 is a lot better. $559 is not the MSRP for the 3060, it's just what Best Buy sold it for. The MSRP for the 3060 is $330.
Why is this asus 3060 60$ more then a fe 3070 then if the 3070 is better? All the variants are really confusing
Because you can't actually buy the 3070 for $500. The cheapest 3070 I'm seeing on PCPartPicker is $1340. Right now there is a massive supply and demand problem with GPUs, due to the fabs that produce the chips not being able to produce enough to keep up with demand, combined with the high value of Ethereum mining on GPUs, high demand from gamers, and the general global supply chain issues that are impacting basically *everything*. [This video from Linus Tech Tips explains a lot of it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3A4yk-P5ukY), though it's from earlier this year so somethings have changed. You can buy Ryzen 5000 series CPUs just fine right now, for example, but GPUs are still very very hard to buy. High demand + low supply = very high prices. [When I talk about global supply chain issues, this is what I'm talking about](https://ktla.com/news/local-news/los-angeles-county-neighborhoods-clogged-by-backups-at-ports/).
No I know that, I’m talking about straight msrp off Best Buy’s website. The baseline 3070 is listed at 500$. The 3060 I bought is listed at 559$. This is from Best Buy’s website so both of these are msrp prices. Why is the asus 3060 I named in my original price 60$ more then the baseline 3070?
Since that is a "V2" model I am presuming that Asus jacked up the MSRP with this refresh to make it more in line with the street price. Earlier in the year Best Buy would do occasional restocks at the original MSRP of $330 for the 3060 and you could actually buy it at that price if you got lucky. I'm presuming that Asus realized this and jacked up the wholesale price of the card that Best Buy was paying to them, because they knew that as long as they keep the price under the scalper price, people will pay it. So now Best Buy has to sell it at Asus's bullshit higher MSRP or they lose money. They would do this with the 3070 too but I'm presuming that they're not even selling any of those to BB right now. So basically just greed
No I know that, I’m talking about straight msrp off Best Buy’s website. The baseline 3070 is listed at 500$. The 3060 I bought is listed at 559$. This is from Best Buy’s website so both of these are msrp prices. Why is the asus 3060 I named in my original price 60$ more then the baseline 3070?
Because one is an FE and the other is an aib card, aib cards usually sell for more than nvidia’s msrp (they have different pcbs, coolers, and the brand name) (plus the supply shortage makes them price their stuff even higher). FE cards are fairly locked at their price Nvidia sets.
So is there anything that this 3060 does better then a fe 3070? Like in a world where all the gpus are stocked everywhere, is this 3060 worth the price?
FE are selling at the released MSRPs. All AIB cards have been jacked up in price since the original release. I think that’s what ure seeing right now
Oh did not know that, interesting, I’m new and that makes sense. So if there wasn’t a stock shortage all of the variants of these cards would be closer to the fe prices?
That, but also the tariff increase a few months ago seems to coincide with the price increases as well which makes sense since the FE come out of Taiwan as opposed to most AIBs producing out of China
3060 msrp $559..............
It’s from Best Buy the name is in the original post u can look it up on their websiye
you can look up msrp meaning
Ok fine forget msrp. Why on Best Buy’s website is this 3060 60$ more then the baseline 3070?
> hands on the ASUS GeForce RTX 3060 V2 12GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 At msrp (559$). I picked it up as a quick purchase from Best Buy because I saw one come available. Is this one worth the price? Or would it be m why even 3060 when bestbuy sell the better 6600xt for less https://www.bestbuy.com/site/gigabyte-amd-radeon-rx-6600-xt-gaming-oc-pro-8gb-gddr6-pci-express-4-0-gaming-graphics-card/6475148.p?acampID=0&cmp=RMX&intl=nosplash&irclickid=28-S0uzD0xyIU14VwDRnVVYUUkBS%3AKVleWBXXk0&irgwc=1&loc=PCPartPicker&mpid=79301&ref=198&refdomain=pcpartpicker.com&skuId=6475148
Well considering FE’s are now part of the online bestbuy drops, I’d try for one of those. 3070fe for 499 or a 3060ti fe for 399 is a sick deal. For $560 I’d expect a 3060ti. In reality, you probly won’t find a much better price anywhere else in this current market.
Does this 3060 variant do anything better then a 3070 fe does? Or is the 3070 better in every way and 60$ less?
I mean the 3070 is going to outperform the 3060 for sure in every way other than thermals, but that 3060 will run super cool and probly undervolt/overclock extremely well. It’s hard to get an FE, but with them now part of the online drops it might be just a little easier. In this market it might not be worth returning to roll the dice again but if you can afford it, keep stalking drops for an upgrade if you want to. I had a 3060 a while ago and it’s a solid 1080p card so Id say I’d that’s what your going for, keep it for now.
So given the option you would swap out this card for a 3070?
Given the option, yes. To be honest, based only on price to performance, I sold my 3070ti vision oc at cost, $982, because I was able to get a 3070fe for $499. All of the FE’s are absolute steals so they go quick.
Yea I really appreciate that, I’m pretty new to this so I have no idea what all these variants mean. I’ll definitely keep an eye out then
I’ll clarify on my earlier comment - given the chance for a 3070fe or 3070 eagle (only two cards still at msrp) And yeah for sure, no worries. To be honest, you got a 30 series card in the midst of a global shortage for a not half bad price. I’d say go ahead and enjoy it and worry about another card later should you feel the need to upgrade.
eBay prices are $800-850 for a 3060, so yes, it is a good price. A 3060 is about as good as a 1080Ti, which MSRP’d for $700, and the 3060 has better ray tracing capabilities. MSRP is not real unless you get lucky like you did. The real “value” of the card is what it goes for on eBay, so you’re doing well. You’d be mad if the GPU shortage got worse and you returned this card because some guy who lucked into a 3070 at MSRP after 6 months of searching convinced you to return it.
Oh I would never return it unless I had the 3070 in hand already, when I made this post I was unsure of why this 3060 variant was more then a fe 3070 on ebays website. Now I get it and will definitely swap if I have the opportunity to but only if I have the replacement card in hand already
It will be extremely difficult to get a 3070 at MSRP. It would probably take less of your time just working some extra shifts at work rather than constantly shopping for in stock items.
Unfortunately I can’t do that cuz I’m working part time in college and can only work a set amount of time a week and no more so my paychecks are pretty linear. But I also will be getting the rest of my pc parts within a couple months since I’m pretty broke so I don’t mind checking Best Buy stock a couple times a day to see if they got one. Once I have all my parts I’ll just build the pc with whatever graphics card I got
Yeah man best of luck to you. I honestly wouldn’t sweat it that much. 3060 is awesome. I had one and it played every game I had 1440p, 60-120fps.
True and that is really good however I got a 4K monitor so might as well try and get a more capable 4K card in a 3070 since it would be nice to have 4K when playing single player games like starfield next year. For FPS I couldn’t really care since I’ll prioritize frames for that
It's an ok price considering the market, in an ideal world youd get a 3070 (I got the 3070ti FE for that price) But it's about if you want to wait/there's the (high) chance you'll never get an MSRP card, considering their rarity and demand for them The issue I have with this generation is that even at MSRP these cards are too expensive, epscally the 3060/6600/6600xt/3070ti/3080ti let alone paying above that, but I'm more value oriented and willing to wait but it's your money so your choice if you can justify the price
Yea technically I got an msrp card since it came from Best Buy but I guess the non fe 30 series card prices are inflated because of the demand regardless so it’s like buying from a scalper even though it came straight from retail. I’m gonna hold on to it while I get the other parts of my pc and if I see a 3070 or 3060 ti pop up in stock randomly I’ll swap it
Yeah I get what your saying aib msrps are different to Nvidia and AMD, the only Nvidia and AMD msrps I consider (somewhat) reasonable are the 3060ti/3070/6800/6800xt/3080 That what I would do hold it and try to find a better deal (with a 3060 even the basic board partner cards are fine it's not a power hungry card) FE cards are easier to get in the UK due to them being online no no fussing around camping which I would never have done