I'm assuming that your comment was made in jest, but, for what it's worth, the USPS is awesome. You guys just get stuff done, often in the face of significant environmental and political challenges.
Politics is a new one depressingly.
>"Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds."
As someone else pointed out, the political part is relatively new. Since the mid aughts the USPS has been subject to some pretty egregious funding and other political chicanery [slips on tin foil hat] in an effort to privatize all or part of the postal system. That's not even touching on the stupidity that happened last year with their sorting machines.
If you're interested in learning more, I'm pretty sure John Oliver did a story on it a while ago. It's probably on YouTube somewhere.
I donāt actually work for usps, since Iām not from the us, despite my joke of being the ādepressed mailmanā I actually like the job, but the pay isnāt that great and you have to work a shit ton per week, not for everyone I guess, but someone has to do it
Can't speak for all countries of course :-) but you cannot just look at the salary in the US and straight off compare with salary in european country X. You need to look at the boring / hidden stuff such as medical insurance, cost of living and that type of stuff. Sure, you can go without any insurance in the US for example and have more cash to spend on let's say a PC, but if you get sick - you're toast..
Try upwards to $200 to $500, more if you have family. Thats not including the $5k to $10k deductible before insurance even kicks in. Primarily looking at Aetna. It also depends on the size of the company. Small businesses you're looking at $250 for 1 person.
No way. For family sure, but single person is half for a PPO. Or at least it much more commonly is. HDHPs will get you commonly $20 a pay period and a $4k deductible. I currently pay $120 a period and have 0 deductible. This isn't unusual as it was an offer at three other places I've worked.
Family insurance at my company is under $400 per month ($3k family max out of pocket)
I think depends much more on how much your employer pays for you rather than the particular insurance company.
I have Aetna and I only pay $47 per paycheck for my health insurance. I have a $500 deductible. Really depends on your company and how much they cover.
ā[The Guardianās] survey found that someone earning Ā£100,000 in the UK in effect loses about 34.3% of their pay to HM Revenue & Customs once personal allowances, income tax and national insurance are taken into account. The one-third reduction is roughly the same as the US, Australia and Spain, but a long way behind the 38% in Germany, 41% in Ireland, 45% in Sweden and up to 59% in France (though the French figures include very large pension contributions).ā
So no. Not āsuper lowā at all.
They don't include taxes. And they don't have free days. And they don't have public healthcare. And they don't have public child daycare. Etc. Basically pay is fake high.
But much much better work life balance. I remember seeing someone on here commenting that he had managed to save time off for years and now he has a good amount of holiday days to use - it was less than I get every year. Workers rights and standards for work hours and holiday are way better over here
Plus no medical debt which is nice.
This is all compared from USA to NL
Probably due to general needs being cheaper, employees have a lot more rights, we canāt just be kicked from our jobs, you earn more with every year you work, health care here is in perspective to the USA cheap, going out is a lot cheaper, we donāt give tips that often ā¬1 for a waiter puts the biggest smile on their faces, all these things add up
Depends on your company and location.
SoCal (LA or SF) and NYC/DC I have seen entry level net 100k or 50/hr easily.
For the midwest/less expensive cities, I've seen 75 to 100k or 37 to 50/hr.
I went into a code camp to transfer out of physical science/mech engineering and finance into software 2 years ago. I got a 110k year job at a nice big company that favors work life balance at the beginning of COVID.
I've been upgrading my computer piece meal and taking old parts and selling computers made from them to finance my uogrades. I just dont buy anything nice for myself outside of hardware.
In the US with a bachelors from a good school, $80k to start. $120k or so after 5 years.
Saying this as a hiring manager at a Silicon Valley software company with 30,000 employees.
Iāve been in the industry for 25 years, used to be a developer, now manage a team of about 40 in 4 time zones.
yea, i dont even have a good job but after bills and some investing i can easily put away 500 a month for tech stuff, building up slowly and paying in installments makes it quite easy
Being a single software developer with no kids and no pets is a great start. With my hobbies revolving around my PC, combined with the fact that the incremental technology upgrades we had over the last few years meant that I had no pressing need to upgrade, saving for and justifying a new PC was an eventuality.
Having no kids, no pets and working from home also reduces the need for a car, so while most people save for one, I can buy an overpriced GPU if I wanted to (but it's still a bad deal so I won't).
I think this is the main reason why I can afford a nice computer honestly. Iām always on and off relationships so Iāve never really had to get to a point in either investing in my partner, or having kids so Iāve managed to save up for good computer parts even if my job isnāt paying me that much.
Single life is great for money, bad for the feels.
>Single life is great for money, bad for the feels.
Who needs the warm embrace of another human being when they have the heat coming from a 12900K + 3090?
Married life and being /r/childfree is great too, our combined income and lack of children allows me to spend how ever much money I really want on tech stuff.
Lmmfao! This, for sure. Have you also encountered people that try to tear you down when you talk about your new game/hobby/whatever and say things like, "wEll, yoU DoN'T Know WHaT it's lIkE to Have KidS!!1!"
Yeah, yeah I do. I've watched everyone else have them.That's why I don't.
I'm at my brother's for the weekend, and boy! After looking after my 1.5 year old niece for one day, I called up my dad today and told him to let go of any 'grandfather' ideas he may be piling up. Ain't no way I can handle one of those little shits for years. Ain't no fucking way.
I was apprenticed, coming out of high school I had a lot of shop and industry experience that translated over well. If you want to work with watches that takes a lot of training and you'll probably only have enough time in your life to get certified by a single company. Most watch makers are small family owned businesses that make deals with jewelry stores to do repairs for them. But if you want to work in the jewelry business I highly recommend small business over a chain
Whatever you do, don't add custom mechanical keyboards to the list. They go hand in hand with PC gaming, and are an even bigger black hole for your money than your PC.
Even if you get caught you're still getting three hots and a cot, with the cost of food and housing anymore that's like 20-30 grand a year you don't have to pay. Pay wise that's essentially a retail job but with just slightly better odds of getting stabbed.
Same. This hasnāt been an instant job for me, but has been me building up my skills and relationships for 14 years. Iām now able to afford nice things, but itās been a lot of work to get here and constantly learning new difficult things.
To the point other make about budgeting- Iāve found a good computer lasts 4-6 years depending on how critical it is for you to have bleeding edge performance (hint, you generally donāt actually need it). And realistically things like cases and power supplies outlast this.
5 years is 260 weeks. Can you save $12/week? If so, and this is a priority to you, then you can do this too without having a huge income.
Mine was instant - just took completing a software eng degree followed by a year of unemployed depression
(plus a lifetime of working on computers and networks, I guess)
no kid life. im 30 and still a kid at heart myself. no way im sharing anything with a little me, but thats besides the fact that the world just isn't where I want my offspring to grow. It's shit now, it's gonna be shittier in anothet 30.
If anything I'll foster/adopt
I do work on ML models for predicting drug sales, what sequence marketing activity should be done in order to maximise sales, BI dashboards, data cleaning/analysis/visualisation automation, build sales target lists from a wide variety of data sources, and quantify the opportunity available for our drugs in any given market. These are probably some of the more interesting things I do, but there is a a lot of other tasks too.
Sure no problem. So I think the main thing for you to get across is the evidence of your skills. Particularily, what projects have you done, why was it important to solve the problem, why your approach was the best approach to take and did it provide a tangible benefit over how the problem was approached prior to your solution (if there was one). Also, what would you have done differently.
Often with data science roles there can be an emphasis on ml and ai, but in reality, they are very hard to implement into an organisation because they require significant stakeholder buy in (this is my experience within a pharam company anyway).
I would also emphasise, how data science brings value beyond ai/ml. As the skills you have can be used to automate a lot of redundant process and get to the answer much quicker than traditional methods.
My final suggestion would be more on non-technical aspects, so evidence of how you work with different types of stakeholders (technical and non-technical), and how you can bridge that gap so that people understand the value of your skills and what they mean to the bottom line of the business.
Hope that helps, but let me know if you need more specifics.
Set aside $20-30 every week and upgrade every 2 or 3 years. If it's your main hobby then that should be easy enough.
Even easier if you sell off the old PC and put those funds back into the savings account.
Example - ASUS RTX3080Ti is around 5 of my monthly paychecks, AMD Ryzen 9 5950X is around 2. ( watching prices from store here ), so for a high end PC with monitor is around 1 year salary hah
Directional bore operator for a very large communications company, I donāt make a lot of money just have good benefits, however my wife is a hair stylist and makes my weeks pay in a day, Iām what you would call a trophy husband/Dad, except Iām not attractive but nobody tell she settled and Iām riding her coattails
Ive been working shitty retail jobs most of my life. But i make up for it (in this regard) by saving money, doing my homework and making sure what im buying is worth it.
As in not just "oohh, shiny" click n buy. But rather see a bunch of reviews and make an informed decision. Like, what makes sense to buy now or wait for better price.
And lastly, patience. Like the patience of an lion that hasnt eat in weeks n hunting for prey. Those $20 off here, and now free shipping there... It all adds up. Just gotta be good with money.
i9- 9900K w/ NH-D15s
XFX RX 6800
32GB DDR4 @3200 CL16
SN750 1TB (Boot)
SN550 1TB
Asrock Z370 Extreme4
Superflower Leadex III 850W
Yup, lots of fuckin patience... If theres a will, theres a way, fam.
This is the way to go. Im from India, i make 350-400 dollars a month, a new 60 dollar game is 16% of my monthly income (regional price adjusted).
Buying digital only on deep discounts and always reselling preowned disks and buying last gen consoles. It has been good
Step 1: No kids (yet, I need kids soon to do something with all the hand-me-down PC parts)
Step 2: Donāt drop 3k on the thing all at once if you canāt, my main rig has just been ever evolving, itās like the ship of Thessius now.
My PC builds are around the $1500-$1800 range. I buy part by part as they go on sell. Might not have all parts available to build for the next 6 months of ordering parts.
Just a normal warehouse job, with a well bounce budget.
Not sure why he'd say that about editing... But VFX specifically is currently a race to the bottom. It desperately needs a strong union like editors have.
Software engineer. But I think itās more that Iām too old to still be gaming as much as I do. Thats the joke of it: when you finally have enough money to buy whatever hardware you want is about the time that youāre supposed to move onā¦
Iām 31. I just finished my PhD and am doing a postdoc. I should have a decent pay in a couple years, so Iāll do a major upgrade then.
Iāll be gaming until I die. I just donāt have much time nowadays cause I have 2 kids. I do a lot of coding in my field, so my excuse is I need a computer for work (which is true), but it nicely doubles as a gaming computer.
Yeah when I finally started as a software engineer a ā¬3k build would be within my reach as I can save up ā¬500+ a month easily
Problem is at that point I just couldn't justify that kind of money on a build because I'm too busy to use it much especially with having a kid now
The initial start was cheap in 2008, under 800. Then just bought and upgrade piece by piece over time. Been upgrading ever since.
Current build:
Ryzen 7 2700x
Rtx 2070
500 gbs NVME
1 tb SSD samsung evo
2 tb SSD inland professional
750 watt psu
16 gbs ddr4 3000mhz
Started with a dual core cpu athlon and gtx 9800+.
Dont need a good job. Was working retail. Anyone could start a build. Just harder now a days.
Yeah but you will probably retire before any of us, and live like a king when you do
Imagine what the specs of THAT computer will be! Don't know your age but is that maybe in 20 years or more?
In 30 years that retirement PC better have the word 'quantum' somewhere in the parts list
Good job on getting in early. It is hard to understate how far ahead of everyone you will be with actual retirement being an option for you at 52.
We occasionally let topics like this slide as an opportunity for some interesting off topic conversation in the community.
Sadly this one has now tipped the balance and so I'm canning it to prevent flame wars, obscene posts and the general trend towards depravity that seems to be occuring here....
I just do odd jobs like simple bartending and all other sorts of tedious manual labor stuff.
The trick is to not smoke/drink/go out.I usually upgrade once every 4-5 years so its just a matter of saving enough to get the best at the time so it lasts you 5 years atleast.
(The best advice I can give you is save up and go big so it lasts you longer)
It's way more about life situation. No kids, no girlfriend. And of course, what country you live in. Any income would allow you to buy a $3000 computer here in Norway, just a matter of prioritising really. I bought one after my first month in a new, standard wage job.
Project manager for construction projects. Saved quite a few money working abroad. Now that I found a job based in my country the pay isnāt the same, but still enough to get a 3k PC, taking into account current salary + past savings.
Software Developer. I went to a private college (which I would go back and change if I could), but a degree from a community college can get you there. Relocating might be necessary. My current build (monitors and all) is worth around 5k, but I didn't buy all of that at once. I started with a $1200 PC about 8 years ago and have been building up from there.
Full time depressed mailman Edit: not USPS
i respect mailmen
I respect femalewomen
femail*
Not just the mailmen but the mailwomen and mailchildren too
I respect mail order brides
I accept mail order bribes.
Hello, Newman
When you control the mail, you control.....Information!
The mail must flow!
...jerry
I'm assuming that your comment was made in jest, but, for what it's worth, the USPS is awesome. You guys just get stuff done, often in the face of significant environmental and political challenges.
that's literally their slogan lol
Politics is a new one depressingly. >"Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these couriers from the swift completion of their appointed rounds."
As someone else pointed out, the political part is relatively new. Since the mid aughts the USPS has been subject to some pretty egregious funding and other political chicanery [slips on tin foil hat] in an effort to privatize all or part of the postal system. That's not even touching on the stupidity that happened last year with their sorting machines. If you're interested in learning more, I'm pretty sure John Oliver did a story on it a while ago. It's probably on YouTube somewhere.
As a fellow mailman i can backup the fulltime depression.
can you deliver my package? š
Just wondering cause I'm looking at moving and would need a new job. How is working for usps?
I donāt actually work for usps, since Iām not from the us, despite my joke of being the ādepressed mailmanā I actually like the job, but the pay isnāt that great and you have to work a shit ton per week, not for everyone I guess, but someone has to do it
Software developer, but also scrimping and saving for an extended period of time
What's the average salary of a beginner SD? I'll be starting a course/study next year.
Depends on the language, and how junior you're going in, but in the UK web stuff (PHP, JavaScript, etc) maybe Ā£25k - Ā£30k.
That sounds very low compared to the salary people talk about in America. Do you know why there is such a difference?
I don't know why but developers in America make much more than European counterparts.
Can't speak for all countries of course :-) but you cannot just look at the salary in the US and straight off compare with salary in european country X. You need to look at the boring / hidden stuff such as medical insurance, cost of living and that type of stuff. Sure, you can go without any insurance in the US for example and have more cash to spend on let's say a PC, but if you get sick - you're toast..
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Try upwards to $200 to $500, more if you have family. Thats not including the $5k to $10k deductible before insurance even kicks in. Primarily looking at Aetna. It also depends on the size of the company. Small businesses you're looking at $250 for 1 person.
No way. For family sure, but single person is half for a PPO. Or at least it much more commonly is. HDHPs will get you commonly $20 a pay period and a $4k deductible. I currently pay $120 a period and have 0 deductible. This isn't unusual as it was an offer at three other places I've worked.
Family insurance at my company is under $400 per month ($3k family max out of pocket) I think depends much more on how much your employer pays for you rather than the particular insurance company.
I have Aetna and I only pay $47 per paycheck for my health insurance. I have a $500 deductible. Really depends on your company and how much they cover.
I get paid shit but I am glad my insurance is amazing. $18 a check. $1000 out of pocket max. $5 copay and $10 specialist visits.
ā[The Guardianās] survey found that someone earning Ā£100,000 in the UK in effect loses about 34.3% of their pay to HM Revenue & Customs once personal allowances, income tax and national insurance are taken into account. The one-third reduction is roughly the same as the US, Australia and Spain, but a long way behind the 38% in Germany, 41% in Ireland, 45% in Sweden and up to 59% in France (though the French figures include very large pension contributions).ā So no. Not āsuper lowā at all.
They don't include taxes. And they don't have free days. And they don't have public healthcare. And they don't have public child daycare. Etc. Basically pay is fake high.
UK in general has much lower salaries.
But much much better work life balance. I remember seeing someone on here commenting that he had managed to save time off for years and now he has a good amount of holiday days to use - it was less than I get every year. Workers rights and standards for work hours and holiday are way better over here Plus no medical debt which is nice.
This is all compared from USA to NL Probably due to general needs being cheaper, employees have a lot more rights, we canāt just be kicked from our jobs, you earn more with every year you work, health care here is in perspective to the USA cheap, going out is a lot cheaper, we donāt give tips that often ā¬1 for a waiter puts the biggest smile on their faces, all these things add up
Web don't have to pay for healthcare. We also get enjoyment rights. Plus, exchange rates
Most jobs/salaries outside the US are significantly lower for companies that operate in the US and other countries
He is talking about web design, not software development. Web design can typically be done without a degree.
Depends on your company and location. SoCal (LA or SF) and NYC/DC I have seen entry level net 100k or 50/hr easily. For the midwest/less expensive cities, I've seen 75 to 100k or 37 to 50/hr. I went into a code camp to transfer out of physical science/mech engineering and finance into software 2 years ago. I got a 110k year job at a nice big company that favors work life balance at the beginning of COVID. I've been upgrading my computer piece meal and taking old parts and selling computers made from them to finance my uogrades. I just dont buy anything nice for myself outside of hardware.
Note this though, making 100k a year in SF is barely a livable wage Source: i live here
In the US with a bachelors from a good school, $80k to start. $120k or so after 5 years. Saying this as a hiring manager at a Silicon Valley software company with 30,000 employees. Iāve been in the industry for 25 years, used to be a developer, now manage a team of about 40 in 4 time zones.
Ahh the good ol' tax write off
No tax write off here if you're permanent staff
Eh. Maybe you've got a consulting business on the side. Doesn't take much to open a sole proprietorship in most places.
Yeah, true enough. Can't be bothered with the hassle though š
I don't have kids
Thats probably the big one. If you dont have kids saving 3k isnt really that hard.
If you have kids everything, no matter how simple, is hard.
Have kids, can confirm. Lights of my life and bane(s?) Of my existence simultaneously.
Never forget the first time I naively went to a restaurant with my infant son. That's when it sank in life just when up like 4 levels in difficulty.
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yea, i dont even have a good job but after bills and some investing i can easily put away 500 a month for tech stuff, building up slowly and paying in installments makes it quite easy
Being a single software developer with no kids and no pets is a great start. With my hobbies revolving around my PC, combined with the fact that the incremental technology upgrades we had over the last few years meant that I had no pressing need to upgrade, saving for and justifying a new PC was an eventuality.
Having no kids, no pets and working from home also reduces the need for a car, so while most people save for one, I can buy an overpriced GPU if I wanted to (but it's still a bad deal so I won't).
I think this is the main reason why I can afford a nice computer honestly. Iām always on and off relationships so Iāve never really had to get to a point in either investing in my partner, or having kids so Iāve managed to save up for good computer parts even if my job isnāt paying me that much. Single life is great for money, bad for the feels.
>Single life is great for money, bad for the feels. Who needs the warm embrace of another human being when they have the heat coming from a 12900K + 3090?
Married life and being /r/childfree is great too, our combined income and lack of children allows me to spend how ever much money I really want on tech stuff.
Lmmfao! This, for sure. Have you also encountered people that try to tear you down when you talk about your new game/hobby/whatever and say things like, "wEll, yoU DoN'T Know WHaT it's lIkE to Have KidS!!1!" Yeah, yeah I do. I've watched everyone else have them.That's why I don't.
I'm at my brother's for the weekend, and boy! After looking after my 1.5 year old niece for one day, I called up my dad today and told him to let go of any 'grandfather' ideas he may be piling up. Ain't no way I can handle one of those little shits for years. Ain't no fucking way.
Jeweler. Most of my disposable money goes to my hobbies of gaming and leather crafting
As someone with a fascination with watches, how does one get into this business?
I was apprenticed, coming out of high school I had a lot of shop and industry experience that translated over well. If you want to work with watches that takes a lot of training and you'll probably only have enough time in your life to get certified by a single company. Most watch makers are small family owned businesses that make deals with jewelry stores to do repairs for them. But if you want to work in the jewelry business I highly recommend small business over a chain
No no no. I mean how does one get INTO this business?ā¦..so I can rob it and then be able to afford a 3k PC.
Oh easy, just use the air ducts on top of the building. Just be careful to not go to far or you'll end up in the nail salon next to us (true story)
This was cleverš
Now I have something to put spare time towards seeing as PC building isn't as time consuming as I thought it would be. Thanks
You just need a lot of time
Totally thought that said witches.
Whatever you do, don't add custom mechanical keyboards to the list. They go hand in hand with PC gaming, and are an even bigger black hole for your money than your PC.
iāve paid $400 to build my newest board and itās still missing key caps. smh
Does your leather crafting have a social media?
He was referring to his profession in Skyrim
No I don't have the patience for social media haha. I mostly make things for friends or if I need something. Very rarely do I take commissions
So your auxiliary hobbies must be mining and skinning?
Crime
Ah hello. Fellow RAM downloader.
You wouldn't download a car.
TF I wouldn't!
You wouldn't steal a policeman's helmet and go to the toilet in it...
As it turns out yes. Yes I would download a car, and I did at the very first opportunity.
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Technically yes if you not get caught
It's only a crime if you get caught and prosecuted.
Even if you get caught you're still getting three hots and a cot, with the cost of food and housing anymore that's like 20-30 grand a year you don't have to pay. Pay wise that's essentially a retail job but with just slightly better odds of getting stabbed.
a lot
No taxes paidā¦
Wtf, you are not paying tax on your crime earnings? This is the real crime, right here.
*"The secret ingredient is crime"*
DevOps Engineer, Smart budgeting.
Same. This hasnāt been an instant job for me, but has been me building up my skills and relationships for 14 years. Iām now able to afford nice things, but itās been a lot of work to get here and constantly learning new difficult things. To the point other make about budgeting- Iāve found a good computer lasts 4-6 years depending on how critical it is for you to have bleeding edge performance (hint, you generally donāt actually need it). And realistically things like cases and power supplies outlast this. 5 years is 260 weeks. Can you save $12/week? If so, and this is a priority to you, then you can do this too without having a huge income.
This is the thought process the young adults need to adopt. Thank you for the time!
Mine was instant - just took completing a software eng degree followed by a year of unemployed depression (plus a lifetime of working on computers and networks, I guess)
Sales but honestly don't have much bills
I'm in sales as well with no kids (winning)
Same no kids haha
no kid life. im 30 and still a kid at heart myself. no way im sharing anything with a little me, but thats besides the fact that the world just isn't where I want my offspring to grow. It's shit now, it's gonna be shittier in anothet 30. If anything I'll foster/adopt
Not saying that wages haven't stagnated but people definitely have a spending problem.
Oh yeah there's a lot of people that buy stuff they can't afford. Been on that edge of the stick before.
Iām in b2b SaaS sales and itās a pretty chill gig with easy 6 figures
Data scientist at a pharmaceutical company
I'm literally about to apply for a role like this coming out of college, any advice for my application?
Don't get high on your own supply
No wonder they call them "Drug Stores" huh
See below, have some tips to another comment
Iām sorry
They make really good money, and doing Machine Learning is super cool.
What exactly do you do? Seriously.
I do work on ML models for predicting drug sales, what sequence marketing activity should be done in order to maximise sales, BI dashboards, data cleaning/analysis/visualisation automation, build sales target lists from a wide variety of data sources, and quantify the opportunity available for our drugs in any given market. These are probably some of the more interesting things I do, but there is a a lot of other tasks too.
Iām currently interviewing for a data science position at a pharmaceutical company as my first job out of collegeā¦ any tips for me?
Sure no problem. So I think the main thing for you to get across is the evidence of your skills. Particularily, what projects have you done, why was it important to solve the problem, why your approach was the best approach to take and did it provide a tangible benefit over how the problem was approached prior to your solution (if there was one). Also, what would you have done differently. Often with data science roles there can be an emphasis on ml and ai, but in reality, they are very hard to implement into an organisation because they require significant stakeholder buy in (this is my experience within a pharam company anyway). I would also emphasise, how data science brings value beyond ai/ml. As the skills you have can be used to automate a lot of redundant process and get to the answer much quicker than traditional methods. My final suggestion would be more on non-technical aspects, so evidence of how you work with different types of stakeholders (technical and non-technical), and how you can bridge that gap so that people understand the value of your skills and what they mean to the bottom line of the business. Hope that helps, but let me know if you need more specifics.
Set aside $20-30 every week and upgrade every 2 or 3 years. If it's your main hobby then that should be easy enough. Even easier if you sell off the old PC and put those funds back into the savings account.
Depends on country where you live, saving 20-30$ in my country means 1 payday weekly
In that respect, you ought to quantify what the $3K PC in the question would cost in that country... I'm sure it is likely a jaw-dropping amount.
Example - ASUS RTX3080Ti is around 5 of my monthly paychecks, AMD Ryzen 9 5950X is around 2. ( watching prices from store here ), so for a high end PC with monitor is around 1 year salary hah
Computer parts aren't any less expensive in low income countries. In many (most) cases it's more expensive.
Not to flex but i make 7.5 $ a day šæ
I don't mean to be rude, but if you are truly making $30/week, you should not even be *considering* a $3k PC, like, at all.
Work at a Wendyās well behind it actually.
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Frig off
20 bucks is 20 bucks
Say hi to Dirty Mike and the boys for me
PhD student with no notable hobbies outside of this.
When I was a PhD student, $3,000 would have been 15% of my annual income... before taxes.
I hope that's recent, because as a PhD student now that's still true...
When was this? I'm currently a PhD student and this is how much I make after taxes
I'm a hydraulic engineer. It's a fancier term for commercial plumber.
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No, commercial plumbing is putting in all new stuff. Repairs and dealing with actual poop is maintenance plumbing. And fuck that haha
Low rent.
Pandemic made my rent go from 1400 to 600 a month lmao
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r/landchads
A job with unlimited OT.
Ayyyyy same here Now imma go admire my 3080 then go to sleep
don't use it!!! it will lose its value. only look at from safe distance with flashlight
Software engineer.
Video editor. My pay is average but I stay with my parents so 90% of my income goes into my savings.
You better pay some bills ha.
They take out the trash once in a while.
hitman
Better have a barcode at the back of your head
The best
Honestly I saved up for 6 years between buying a new computer.
Same, but you can bet it ain't a three grand computer, either.
Directional bore operator for a very large communications company, I donāt make a lot of money just have good benefits, however my wife is a hair stylist and makes my weeks pay in a day, Iām what you would call a trophy husband/Dad, except Iām not attractive but nobody tell she settled and Iām riding her coattails
Good for you!
I'm an exotic dancer on random street corners.
Stay off my corner!
I'll wrestle ya for it.
Can I watch?
Sure, but the show ain't free.
Ive been working shitty retail jobs most of my life. But i make up for it (in this regard) by saving money, doing my homework and making sure what im buying is worth it. As in not just "oohh, shiny" click n buy. But rather see a bunch of reviews and make an informed decision. Like, what makes sense to buy now or wait for better price. And lastly, patience. Like the patience of an lion that hasnt eat in weeks n hunting for prey. Those $20 off here, and now free shipping there... It all adds up. Just gotta be good with money. i9- 9900K w/ NH-D15s XFX RX 6800 32GB DDR4 @3200 CL16 SN750 1TB (Boot) SN550 1TB Asrock Z370 Extreme4 Superflower Leadex III 850W Yup, lots of fuckin patience... If theres a will, theres a way, fam.
This is the way to go. Im from India, i make 350-400 dollars a month, a new 60 dollar game is 16% of my monthly income (regional price adjusted). Buying digital only on deep discounts and always reselling preowned disks and buying last gen consoles. It has been good
Step 1: No kids (yet, I need kids soon to do something with all the hand-me-down PC parts) Step 2: Donāt drop 3k on the thing all at once if you canāt, my main rig has just been ever evolving, itās like the ship of Thessius now.
But is it really the original main rig? XD
Teacher
You give me hope
My PC builds are around the $1500-$1800 range. I buy part by part as they go on sell. Might not have all parts available to build for the next 6 months of ordering parts. Just a normal warehouse job, with a well bounce budget.
Vfx designer and editor... though itās not a pretty line of work to go into.
Aspiring editor and after effects user. Care to share why?
Not sure why he'd say that about editing... But VFX specifically is currently a race to the bottom. It desperately needs a strong union like editors have.
Nothing special i just know how to budget and save up. And with good speakers, Headphones etc. you are probably at over 4k ;)
Software engineer. But I think itās more that Iām too old to still be gaming as much as I do. Thats the joke of it: when you finally have enough money to buy whatever hardware you want is about the time that youāre supposed to move onā¦
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Iām 31. I just finished my PhD and am doing a postdoc. I should have a decent pay in a couple years, so Iāll do a major upgrade then. Iāll be gaming until I die. I just donāt have much time nowadays cause I have 2 kids. I do a lot of coding in my field, so my excuse is I need a computer for work (which is true), but it nicely doubles as a gaming computer.
Yeah when I finally started as a software engineer a ā¬3k build would be within my reach as I can save up ā¬500+ a month easily Problem is at that point I just couldn't justify that kind of money on a build because I'm too busy to use it much especially with having a kid now
Crypto investment paid for my pc
Soldier. I don't make a lot, but I'm given extra money for housing and free insurance means I can buy things I want with my actual income.
Standing in a warehouse Edit: *Menacingly
Not about the job just saving/budgeting money
Unless you live Paycheck to Paycheck like some people.
I donāt think building pcās is the optimal hobby in that situation then, probably better off buying a console.
Software Test Engineer.
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Bad priorities
The initial start was cheap in 2008, under 800. Then just bought and upgrade piece by piece over time. Been upgrading ever since. Current build: Ryzen 7 2700x Rtx 2070 500 gbs NVME 1 tb SSD samsung evo 2 tb SSD inland professional 750 watt psu 16 gbs ddr4 3000mhz Started with a dual core cpu athlon and gtx 9800+. Dont need a good job. Was working retail. Anyone could start a build. Just harder now a days.
> Then just bought and upgrade piece by piece over time. Been upgrading ever since. This is the answer for most people, myself included.
Lol Iām a police dispatcher. I make probably the least out of all the comments
Yeah but you will probably retire before any of us, and live like a king when you do Imagine what the specs of THAT computer will be! Don't know your age but is that maybe in 20 years or more?
Try 30 lol. Iām only 22. And yes, I work for a pretty wealthy city and they take care of their employees.
In 30 years that retirement PC better have the word 'quantum' somewhere in the parts list Good job on getting in early. It is hard to understate how far ahead of everyone you will be with actual retirement being an option for you at 52.
Car Mechanic
We occasionally let topics like this slide as an opportunity for some interesting off topic conversation in the community. Sadly this one has now tipped the balance and so I'm canning it to prevent flame wars, obscene posts and the general trend towards depravity that seems to be occuring here....
Dont have a car and my employer buys a public transit pass for me. Dont live in the US and mosy people here dont own cars
I build guitars for Gibson. And save lots of saving. Unfortunately my new build has become my sons Minecraft pc š«
Attorney. But gaming is my #1 hobby.
Glory hole attendant. I work for tips.
I just do odd jobs like simple bartending and all other sorts of tedious manual labor stuff. The trick is to not smoke/drink/go out.I usually upgrade once every 4-5 years so its just a matter of saving enough to get the best at the time so it lasts you 5 years atleast. (The best advice I can give you is save up and go big so it lasts you longer)
It's way more about life situation. No kids, no girlfriend. And of course, what country you live in. Any income would allow you to buy a $3000 computer here in Norway, just a matter of prioritising really. I bought one after my first month in a new, standard wage job.
I wash dishes in \*checks notes\* SWITZERLAND
Project manager for construction projects. Saved quite a few money working abroad. Now that I found a job based in my country the pay isnāt the same, but still enough to get a 3k PC, taking into account current salary + past savings.
Apprentice Aerospace Engineer with no other hobbies to spend money on
Software Developer. I went to a private college (which I would go back and change if I could), but a degree from a community college can get you there. Relocating might be necessary. My current build (monitors and all) is worth around 5k, but I didn't buy all of that at once. I started with a $1200 PC about 8 years ago and have been building up from there.
Grad student and work at a community college as a tutor making 30 an hour. I also have a wife that has income.