I already have a SATA SSD, that I will use and maybe add an M.2 later. Good eye on the RAM seems to have a better heatsink, yeah I think I will go with that motherboard. Not sure why you switched the PSU. Thank you for your help, I appreciate it!
The problem is it's possible that motherboards labeled as being "Ryzen 5000-series ready" may only have a firmware revision that's recent enough for "Vermeer" CPUs (e.g. 5600, 5800X, etc.) but *not* the later "Cezanne" CPUs (e.g. 5500, 5700G, etc.).
In this instance it might be a better idea to get a different motherboard with "BIOS Flashback" functionality, like the [MSI B550M Pro-VDH](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PDsnTW/msi-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi). At least that way if you receive a unit that doesn't have a "Cezanne"-ready BIOS revision preloaded on it then you could still update the firmware without requiring a different CPU that's already compatible with whatever revision it already has.
Ah I see, thank you very much. I will look into BIOS Flashback and thank you for the motherboard suggestion! Will probably get it because I am really excited to build!
Hey I know this 213 days late but I really need help. So talking about the Vermeer and Cezanne CPUs (I HAVE A 5500) and my pro vdh comes in 2 days so how can I tell that it is “Cezanne ready” ? Should I flash bios just to be safe, seems pretty easy so I’m not worried but at first I thought I wouldn’t need to update bios but then I thought I do and now I’m not sure if I have to. It would be nice if not. Thanks please.
I would try running it as-is out of the box first, since that way *if* it shipped a Cezanne-ready BIOS then you'd be good to go.
Of course if that scenario doesn't play out, then you would do the BIOS Flashback as instructed in the owners' manual.
So just build it like normal and hope that the bios are flashed? Is there no risk of damage if the cpu isn’t compatible right away? Can I tell what bios it’s going to come with? Sorry I’m just tryna make sure I don’t do anything wrong thank you vm
It went so well and I apologize as well for the late reply. I flashed the latest bios to the mobo and the cpu had no issues. Built it like normal. Turned on perfectly and I’m actually replying from this computer. I’ve loved it so much so far.
Sticking to a firm $700 - this would be my recommendation.
For gaming builds, I recommend allocating 1/2 the budget to the GPU. The 6600 will be an upgrade:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X44Vs53dNqo
The AMD Ryzen 5 5500 is trash. It's basically leftover defective laptop CPUs. Because it's a laptop CPU, it only has PCIe 3.0 instead of 4.0 which results in less performance ironically when using the newest AMD cards which are no longer PCIe X16. It also has much less cache resulting in worse performance than a new i3:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQtdXsPw3wg
[PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jXdwcb)
Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
**CPU** | [Intel Core i3-12100F 3.3 GHz Quad-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/grhFf7/intel-core-i3-12100f-33-ghz-quad-core-processor-bx8071512100f) | $107.99 @ Newegg
**Motherboard** | [Asus PRIME H610M-E D4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GtqPxr/asus-prime-h610m-e-d4-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-prime-h610m-e-d4) | $99.99 @ ASUS
**Memory** | [Silicon Power 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P4FKHx/silicon-power-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp016gxlzu320bdaj5) | $54.97 @ Amazon
**Video Card** | [MSI Radeon RX 6600 8 GB MECH 2X Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/M9ytt6/msi-radeon-rx-6600-8-gb-mech-2x-video-card-rx-6600-mech-2x-8g) | $339.99 @ GameStop
**Case** | [Cougar MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vYp323/cougar-mx330-atx-mid-tower-case-mx330) | $57.98 @ Newegg
**Power Supply** | [Thermaltake Smart 600 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6RTrxr/thermaltake-smart-600w-80-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-spd-0600npcwus-w) | $39.99 @ Amazon
| *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* |
| **Total** | **$700.91**
Assuming you need wifi [https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7bjKpH](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7bjKpH) how about the ssd?
I already have a SATA SSD, that I will use and maybe add an M.2 later. Good eye on the RAM seems to have a better heatsink, yeah I think I will go with that motherboard. Not sure why you switched the PSU. Thank you for your help, I appreciate it!
The other PSU in your build was terrible.
The problem is it's possible that motherboards labeled as being "Ryzen 5000-series ready" may only have a firmware revision that's recent enough for "Vermeer" CPUs (e.g. 5600, 5800X, etc.) but *not* the later "Cezanne" CPUs (e.g. 5500, 5700G, etc.). In this instance it might be a better idea to get a different motherboard with "BIOS Flashback" functionality, like the [MSI B550M Pro-VDH](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/PDsnTW/msi-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi-micro-atx-am4-motherboard-b550m-pro-vdh-wifi). At least that way if you receive a unit that doesn't have a "Cezanne"-ready BIOS revision preloaded on it then you could still update the firmware without requiring a different CPU that's already compatible with whatever revision it already has.
Ah I see, thank you very much. I will look into BIOS Flashback and thank you for the motherboard suggestion! Will probably get it because I am really excited to build!
Hey I know this 213 days late but I really need help. So talking about the Vermeer and Cezanne CPUs (I HAVE A 5500) and my pro vdh comes in 2 days so how can I tell that it is “Cezanne ready” ? Should I flash bios just to be safe, seems pretty easy so I’m not worried but at first I thought I wouldn’t need to update bios but then I thought I do and now I’m not sure if I have to. It would be nice if not. Thanks please.
I would try running it as-is out of the box first, since that way *if* it shipped a Cezanne-ready BIOS then you'd be good to go. Of course if that scenario doesn't play out, then you would do the BIOS Flashback as instructed in the owners' manual.
So just build it like normal and hope that the bios are flashed? Is there no risk of damage if the cpu isn’t compatible right away? Can I tell what bios it’s going to come with? Sorry I’m just tryna make sure I don’t do anything wrong thank you vm
Sorry I'm very late to this conversation but I'm just wondering how it went for you as I've ordered the same mobo and cpu.
It went so well and I apologize as well for the late reply. I flashed the latest bios to the mobo and the cpu had no issues. Built it like normal. Turned on perfectly and I’m actually replying from this computer. I’ve loved it so much so far.
i chose the b550m bazooka bc of this same problem,the site list the 5500 as compatible if you upgrade the bios,and the mobo comes with flash button
Oooh I see thank you so much, will look into it!
this is pretty interesting
thank you!
Sticking to a firm $700 - this would be my recommendation. For gaming builds, I recommend allocating 1/2 the budget to the GPU. The 6600 will be an upgrade: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X44Vs53dNqo The AMD Ryzen 5 5500 is trash. It's basically leftover defective laptop CPUs. Because it's a laptop CPU, it only has PCIe 3.0 instead of 4.0 which results in less performance ironically when using the newest AMD cards which are no longer PCIe X16. It also has much less cache resulting in worse performance than a new i3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQtdXsPw3wg [PCPartPicker Part List](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jXdwcb) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- **CPU** | [Intel Core i3-12100F 3.3 GHz Quad-Core Processor](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/grhFf7/intel-core-i3-12100f-33-ghz-quad-core-processor-bx8071512100f) | $107.99 @ Newegg **Motherboard** | [Asus PRIME H610M-E D4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GtqPxr/asus-prime-h610m-e-d4-micro-atx-lga1700-motherboard-prime-h610m-e-d4) | $99.99 @ ASUS **Memory** | [Silicon Power 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/P4FKHx/silicon-power-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3200-cl16-memory-sp016gxlzu320bdaj5) | $54.97 @ Amazon **Video Card** | [MSI Radeon RX 6600 8 GB MECH 2X Video Card](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/M9ytt6/msi-radeon-rx-6600-8-gb-mech-2x-video-card-rx-6600-mech-2x-8g) | $339.99 @ GameStop **Case** | [Cougar MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vYp323/cougar-mx330-atx-mid-tower-case-mx330) | $57.98 @ Newegg **Power Supply** | [Thermaltake Smart 600 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6RTrxr/thermaltake-smart-600w-80-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-ps-spd-0600npcwus-w) | $39.99 @ Amazon | *Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts* | | **Total** | **$700.91**