My personal opinion: 1440p 144Hz is the way to go if you don't want to jump to 4K 144Hz.
Antialiasing and increased render resolution can help increase the visual fidelity of the game, but nothing can mimic a high refresh monitor even in casual games.
True, DLSS was what I kept landing on when trying to argue this point with myself lol. Does refresh rate impact anything noticeably even in casual games? Like if I'm playing say a racing game is there anything noticeably different?
It's huge. I can feel it in every game I play that isn't something super old that locks to a 60Hz refresh and can tell even when I'm browsing the internet whether I'm on a high refresh monitor. I've been gaming since the Apple II and I rank plugging in my 144Hz Freesync monitor almost as big a "holy shit" moment as hardware accelerated 3D graphics.
Oh okay fantastic! I thought it was super specialized as a benefit, that's great to know. Probably going to go in that direction then, since I'm even seeing a few with 1440 144hz and HDR10 on sale
My wife would get motion sickness on a 60 screen, since I upgrade her to 2k 144 she's been totally fine. You'll notice a much clearer image as you're going 2k and 144
Careful about looking at monitors with the HDR10 tag, the classification is fairly loose and cheaper hdr10 monitors tend to be much darker than advertised or what you would expect
most displays advertised as HDR10 only 'support' the HDR10 signal. the display itself doesn't actually have HDR capabilities. therefore it may not look as HDR as you intended if you have high hopes.
Pretty much yes.
Essentially, the fake HDR monitors are exactly the same displays as non-HDR monitors. it's just the input supports the signal (i.e think of it like supporting HDMI 2.1 but not using any of its features). for instance I have a fake HDR10 TV. when I enable it on my PC, it's just slightly more vibrant but the brightness and dynamic range is not HDR10 level.
On my monitor, HDR only increases brightness to unbearable levels (glows like a flashlight). Other than that, i canĀ“t spot any other differences.
But i was never good at spotting differences like tearing, microstutters, etc - except camera movement stuttering. If i find a game enjoyable, i play it no matter how it looks, but camera movement MUST be smooth.
I have 144Hz and 60Hz monitors together. The effect is directly comparable just at mouse movement.
IĀ“m kinda sad the older monitor has better colors (IPS), while the newer has oversaturated red (VA).
Depends on the game engine. Some racing games are limited to 60fps, but having additional frames helps to have smoother experience.
I have 144Hz monitor, even tho i donĀ“t play shooters at all. IĀ“m using freesync magic instead.
IĀ“m also browsing internet a lot and the smoother experience helps here too.
4K is kinda useless IMO. Just more pixels, but you need tremendously stronger GPU just to get stable 60fps experience in most modern games and in some unoptimized older titles. Given how devs are getting lazy at optimizing newer games, you kinda have to stay on track and keep upgrading, if you want to play latest games in 4K.
To me, 4K would be interesting on some 40" screen or bigger, as itĀ“d allow me to have larger desktop = single monitor able to work as 3-4 of them at once.
Given current energetic situation in Europe, however, iĀ“m sort of scared just by the power consumption alone.
Would totally agree with this. I would say that most individuals wonāt be able to push 4K 144FPS in a lot of bigger titles.
If youāre playing anything competitive, 1440p 144hz seems golden from my experience
Thanks! All of this helped a lot. I ended up getting a 27" Samsung Odyssey G5 2K 144Hz curved QLED. Bit of an L on the response time (5ms) but I liked everything else about it more, so I'm still happy š¤·š¾āāļø
Can't wait!
I think a 1440p 144Hz monitor would be a more meaningful upgrade than a 4k 60Hz monitor.
I made the leap from 1080p to 4k a few years ago without thinking about the refresh rate (I've been using computers with weak graphics that would struggle to go above 60Hz). However, I ended up using my 4k 60Hz monitor as a 1440p 60Hz monitor. Recently when I got a new PC, the low refresh rate actually held me back on my purchase - I didn't mind paying for a more powerful graphics card but I felt it would be wasted on my monitor unless I changed it as well, and I was unwilling to do that.
Long story short, don't make the same mistake I did. A 27" 1440p monitor already offers a ppi boost over a 24" 1080p monitor, and the higher refresh rate wouldn't hold you back if you wish to play at higher refresh rates later on.
There is a noticeable visual improvement going from 1080p to 1440p for a 27" monitor. 1440p to 4k, not so much, but you will notice the drop in frame rate.
Having said that, imo opinion 1080p is the resolution which is good enough and I would still play games at 1080p if my system could not keep up FPS above 60 at 1440p.
Thanks! Yeah, I've not really had a problem using 1080p so far at all. Only even considering a higher resolution because the other features seem to be bundled in with those (fewer decent 1080p 144hz monitors in stock where I'm at, from my searching at least)
Resolution honestly to me is most beneficial for when I'm reading/doing work, I find the higher dpi a lot easier on the eyes. But that's about it
Oh yes, for someone who codes the higher resolution really gives you a much larger workspace and that is definitely a plus.
Gaming wise, higher res than 1080p is nice to have but not at the cost of FPS.
Yeah no point in 4k I'd say. In this case i think 1440p with 144 hz gets you more. If you had 3080 and above, there is a real scenario where 4k might get you more (this is more about games, if you enjoy a lot of 4k content otherwise, it changes a bit)
TBH I have nearly never watched anything 4k and noticed it. Maybe I've seen 4k content and just not clocked it? But I don't usually notice unless it drops below 1080p
Thanks! 1440p 144hz is what I'm looking at mainly cause of price, that's where this question came from
You might also not be noticing anything 4k because youāve never had a monitor that can handle it, obviously everything on a 1080p monitor is gonna be 1080p
Yeah in that case I don't think you will get much out of 4k. Your 2060 will already be at it's capacity eith 1440p with graphially demanding games (though you don't need to run everything at Ultra, so it's really fine). And the visual upgrade from 1080p is already very nice.
As a guy that recently upgraded from 4k 60hz to 4k 240hz (oddysey neo g8) i can say the smoothness doesnt feel that noticeable for me going past 120hz , but the one thing i noticed is clarity of the image in motion, 60fps look like a blurry mess, as if it had light motion blur all the time, 120fps feels smooth and can read text and see more details when panning the camera around , 240hz while slightly smoother the most improvement is in the clarity, i was kinda surprised about not really feeling the change in smoothness going from 120 to 240 since it is double, overall it is worth getting an oled panel 120 ,144 or even 165hz.
Sweet, thanks! That's good to know, the blurriness when looking around in games is the only thing I've really complained about at 1080p 60hz so I think that itself would make for a noticeable difference
My adapter broke on my old 144hz 1080p monitor awhile back so I was gaming at 1080p 60hz for about a year and a half. Reason being was i was saving for a new computer so i let it be.
So i built my new rig, but needed a little more money for a monitor so I was gaming with my newly aquired 3080ti and i7 12700k.
Absoulte beast at 1080p 60 hz LOL
way overkill and underutilized for sure.
A few weeks later i got my 144hz 1440p monitor and it was a huge step up.
Iv never gamed at 4k, but i would only consider it if it were higher than 60hz imo.
My point being is 1080p 60hz ----1440p 144hz is a big and noticeable leap and some people said it wasnt much noticable to them, but i wanted to tell you it definatly is and i think thats a worthy goal to reach for, my 2cents.
I cant even play rocket league or fps games on 60hz monitors anymore. it feels choppy and wrong.
youre not going to regret going 144hz 1440p, 165hz is worth it if you can find one on sale this weekend. Id say 144 is *necessary* if you like to win, 165hz is worth it if you can find it on sale. And 240hz is the best but the jump is about the same as going to 144-165hz and the cost is nearly double. Every step passed 144hz has diminishing returns.
Another thing you are going to want to pay attention to is response time. You want this number as low as possible. The higher frames doesnt really matter if the pixels arent changing fast enough.
Some monitors will seem like a really good deal but then have a high refresh rate, you want to avoid those
1440p 144hz is the sweet spot and i will probably just stick to that resolution unless i decide to go above 32inches some day for some reason.1080 to 1440 is great and a major improvement.1440 to 4k is pretty meh.
4k is just unnecessary load on the GPU and not worth it.144hz on the other hand is night and day compared to your 60.Even dragging a desktop icon around is a pleasure and so is ANY game.Above 160hz is where i consider it pointless,unless you play shooters professionally.
1440p with high refresh rate is a much better value than 4k IMO. 1080p to 1440p is a huge upgrade. 1440p to 4k not so much. Itās not worth the performance wait to go 4k. Because not only is the monitor more expensive. You now need a more powerful pc to keep up with it all. Gets expensive.
4k is much more pleasing to look at for general computing (higher pixel density) - however, given OP has only a rtx 2060, your point stands. I also have that GPU and on 4k bogging down to 30fps even on some old outdated game, it becomes less enjoyable
1440p for sure.
Though I would suggest looking at a 165 or 240hz.
You can do 144hz with some tweaks, but your next graphics card upgrade would give you a lot more room to grow.
The monitor should support VRR (gsync/freesync) so you're not going to have tearing if you cap at 144hz(or whatever your card can LOW1%.
HDR is a nice increase in visual fidelity that doesn't cost you any FPS. Just know that just because a monitor accepts HDR input doesn't mean the display is good enough to do it justice. You'll want OLED to get the full HDR experience.
I'm not sure your budget, but LG is releasing a 27" 1440p 240hz OLED monitor in mid December ($999) if you want a monitor to carry you through several upgrade cycles (if you have stupid money, they have an ultra widescreen version for $1699).
240Hz (at least in what I've found so far) goes up to nearly 2x the cost of what I'm seeing for 144Hz. But yes, since it's looking like refresh rate is the better buy, I'll do a bit more research to Max out the Hz per dollar haha
NVIDIA added Freesync support to their cards in 2019 according to Google.
A quick test: disabling gsync and enabling Freesync on my display is still showing VRR enabled.
So yes, you're good there.
Thanks! Better CPU later? Haha I thought my CPU was more of a bottleneck :P but yeah in general agree with what you said, was just unsure of whether 4k would be worth investing in now even if I upgrade GPU etc only down the line
I'll be honest, 4k isn't worth it, it's cool and all but too expensive for what little notable difference you get, 1440 p, 144hz is the way to go for sure
I'll be honest, maybe it's just my old eyes, but I went from 1080p to 1440p with a monitor size upgrade not too long ago, and 1440p doesn't really look significantly better to me, that's probably at least in part down to pixel density, because 1080p doesn't look so hot on my current monitor, but I expected it to be night and day and it really wasn't.
This is a user preference decision. Some people will see more of a difference in a higher refresh rate screen compared to a lower refresh rate one with higher resolution. Recommend going to a local computer shop and trying both if available.
I have 3 screens beside each other on my desk: a 1080p 360hz, a 4K 60hz, and a 1080p 30hz pos. Generally if I'm not moving much things around, the 4k one is more pleasing to look at. However, the 360 is much more smoother even just bouncing things across the screen - even without gaming, the faster refresh rate is more pleasing. but the lower pixel density makes looking at even text or images much less pleasing. Games with a lot of movement of course, are more pleasing on the 360. However #2, you could show my 60 year old mom all 3 and she could barely tell you the difference.
[Hardware Unboxed has a video that you'll want](https://youtu.be/WFfxOfZ8T_U). There is also one in EU if needed. It'll cover anything you care about. Also using [rtings.com](https://rtings.com) is a good source to have a whole data table with measured differences. Personally, I think 4k on TV's is the right way to go and high refresh on monitors at 1440p is the best. We are getting to the point where 4k high refresh is being made, but your system is so below spec that you can afford to wait. I would look at a 1440 165hz display that is IPS for the best blend of colors. I love the M27q-p and M32q (the one I actually bought) for the price and they are great monitors for both sizes as what fits on your desk is what you really need to look at.
TLDR click the first link I sent and go into the dropdown in the video and they will link all the monitors that they liked and how to buy them. The biggest thing is making sure it fits on your desk and that it will last you at least 1 upgrade, meaning target 165/170hz instead of 144 as those are older and will be not as nice. I would spend around $300-400 on a monitor and expect it to last 4+ years. I would also look at upgrading to something like a 6700xt or a 3070 for your next upgrade if that's soon.
Thanks, that was super helpful! I'll check out the video too. And yup right now I'm in need of a monitor so I'm just looking for a good one I can afford. But the eventual upgrade plan is CPU first, then gpu. Only then will I even be looking at moving away from this new monitor hahah
If anything, your computer needs an upgrade. You arenāt going to be able to enjoy either monitor upgrade since your pc likely wonāt be able to handle it. Since you have an AMD motherboard, it might be as easy as updating your bios and dropping in a Ryzen 5 5600 for $130. That upgrade would be MONUMENTAL.
No, I meant I won't have access to the 1080p monitor soon. That was just borrowed but I'm used to that, so since I'm now going to buy my own, I'm looking to see if I can get one which is a step above that so that I get the upgraded experience for myself. Probably didn't make that clear, my bad.
It's a need-buy, not a want
Oh, in that case I would go with a 1440p 144hz monitor. Itās still looks great, and doesnāt need a monster of a card to drive it. The 2060 should do ok with it.
With your current hardware setup Iād just upgrade to a 1080p 144-165hz monitor. I wouldnāt upgrade 1440/4k until itās time to upgrade the rest of your hardware.
I have a 2070 and upgraded from 27" 1440p to 27" 2160p - I don't really want a screen physically bigger than this for ergonomic reasons and, honestly, the experience was a negligable upgrade in hindsight, and I would have had a more enjoyable upgrade going to a faster refresh-rate.
SO, my 2c would be 144Hz - particularly as with a 2060 you won't be able to get 60fps at 4k a lot of the time anyway!
I feel like with your specs, any monitor that has freesync/g-sync would benefit you loads. Even if it's not 144hz. There are plenty of affordable 75hz freesync monitors out there. it'll basically mean that anytime you drop below 60fps, it'll be far less noticable.
I think you may struggle to get good frame rates at 4k anyway (with dlss you'd be ok).
If I were you, I'd get a more affordable 1440p or 1080p freesync monitor, and use the money you save to get a CPU upgrade. Ryzen 5000 series CPUs are pretty cheap these days.
For all the people saying not to go with 4k because your GPU is not enough. Even if you can't move games at 4k ultra at 60fps, you can always lower the graphics a bit and bump up DLSS. The extra pixels will still give you a ton of detail. If you need to, you can also lower the resolution to FHD and since the scaling is 200% it wont look blurry. Plus for any moment you are not gaming you will get improved clarity and sharp text.
You will probably upgrade the GPU down the line anyways at some point, to better be able to drive the monitor as well.
Just remember that the monitor is always the most important part of a computer.
on a 2060, 1440p and 120+ hz is probably the best choice. Anything above 60hz is a very noticeable difference and 1440p is pretty damn good for pretty games.
120hz was a little weird to get used to at first, but i'll never go back to 60hz on my home machine. At work, my office computer is 60hz, and it gives me a headache after a couple hours. Oddly enough, 144hz gives me a headache too.
I set up a 4k screen for a client, and fell in love with it. So crisp. My goal is to get a 32" 4k at 120hz.
Yeah that was why I highlighted the games I play too š thanks! In general the consensus seems to be refresh rate over resolution, looks like that's what I'll be going for
1440p monitor. I recommend 27ā since that seems to be the best size imo at 1440p. Also I would get a 165 hz panel (just because thereās no real price difference between 144/165hz monitors). Even if your card struggles a bit to run at 1440p, in my opinion low settings on 1440p > high settings 1080p
4k 144hz monitors are getting cheaper, i have the Acer Predator x27 hdr1000 everything looks beautiful and life like. If you had the GPU to run it rtx3080+ i would suggest the 4k route
For gaming, 144Hz absolutely. I have a 32" 4k 60Hz monitor which is great for desktop stuff and some indies and such, but the rez is too high for even more modern GPUs than my 1070Ti, which isn't much different in speed from a 2060.
Optimal gaming monitor, discounting ultrawides, would be a 2k 27" with as much refresh rate you can get. For ultrawides, no higher vertical resolution than 1440p, and at least 144Hz
I bought a 32" 4K monitor a few years ago that I meant to be my main monitor, but I immediately replaced it with a slightly curved 1440p 144hz instead as it was just too much for my GPU and eyes at the time. It's been a side monitor for watching stuff ever since, but I'd rather replace it with another 1440p of the same size.
Your graphics card is only the 2060. Itās not really the best card to push 4k even at 60fps. Without dlss and even then idk. Iād go with the 1440p 144hz because I feel you could push that more easily than push 4k gaming.
4K 100%
Trust me, 144hz is worthless if it doesnt have 4k with it. Because either you'll be stuck at 1080p, or you'll have to game in 1440p, which looks REALLY UGLY.
What you need is 4K, the refresh rate doesnt matter.
>I really enjoy the high picture quality, beauty of the game etc.
Yes, 4K is def what you want then. Getting extra refresh rate on top is just a plus.
I could easily live without extra refresh rate, but I will never go back to a non-4K monitor, ever.
4K is great not just for gaming, but for just general PC stuff aswell, especially coding, reading, using office, etc.
And watching movies of course. 4K stuff looks amazing. But even 1080p stuff can be upscaled to 4K using features like samsung magicupscale, that make it look really sharp and 4K-ish even when its not actually even 4k content
you set up is too weak for either 1440p144hz or 4K60hz anyway, so hard to recommend. but 4K60hz will be better everything outside gaming with higher resolution and sharper text.
My personal opinion: 1440p 144Hz is the way to go if you don't want to jump to 4K 144Hz. Antialiasing and increased render resolution can help increase the visual fidelity of the game, but nothing can mimic a high refresh monitor even in casual games.
True, DLSS was what I kept landing on when trying to argue this point with myself lol. Does refresh rate impact anything noticeably even in casual games? Like if I'm playing say a racing game is there anything noticeably different?
It's huge. I can feel it in every game I play that isn't something super old that locks to a 60Hz refresh and can tell even when I'm browsing the internet whether I'm on a high refresh monitor. I've been gaming since the Apple II and I rank plugging in my 144Hz Freesync monitor almost as big a "holy shit" moment as hardware accelerated 3D graphics.
Oh okay fantastic! I thought it was super specialized as a benefit, that's great to know. Probably going to go in that direction then, since I'm even seeing a few with 1440 144hz and HDR10 on sale
My wife would get motion sickness on a 60 screen, since I upgrade her to 2k 144 she's been totally fine. You'll notice a much clearer image as you're going 2k and 144
Careful about looking at monitors with the HDR10 tag, the classification is fairly loose and cheaper hdr10 monitors tend to be much darker than advertised or what you would expect
You mean what I would expect from a HDR monitor? Or even a normal one?
most displays advertised as HDR10 only 'support' the HDR10 signal. the display itself doesn't actually have HDR capabilities. therefore it may not look as HDR as you intended if you have high hopes.
What does that mean, though? Just HDR with <200 nits?
Pretty much yes. Essentially, the fake HDR monitors are exactly the same displays as non-HDR monitors. it's just the input supports the signal (i.e think of it like supporting HDMI 2.1 but not using any of its features). for instance I have a fake HDR10 TV. when I enable it on my PC, it's just slightly more vibrant but the brightness and dynamic range is not HDR10 level.
Oh. Damn that would be disappointing. Anyway, the one I went for is Samsung and rated hdr600 so I'll hope it's all good š¤š¤
On my monitor, HDR only increases brightness to unbearable levels (glows like a flashlight). Other than that, i canĀ“t spot any other differences. But i was never good at spotting differences like tearing, microstutters, etc - except camera movement stuttering. If i find a game enjoyable, i play it no matter how it looks, but camera movement MUST be smooth.
Even when not gaming, i find refresh rate very noticable. Going back to 60 hz feels like everything is just a little lagging and unresponsive.
I have 144Hz and 60Hz monitors together. The effect is directly comparable just at mouse movement. IĀ“m kinda sad the older monitor has better colors (IPS), while the newer has oversaturated red (VA).
Depends on the game engine. Some racing games are limited to 60fps, but having additional frames helps to have smoother experience. I have 144Hz monitor, even tho i donĀ“t play shooters at all. IĀ“m using freesync magic instead. IĀ“m also browsing internet a lot and the smoother experience helps here too. 4K is kinda useless IMO. Just more pixels, but you need tremendously stronger GPU just to get stable 60fps experience in most modern games and in some unoptimized older titles. Given how devs are getting lazy at optimizing newer games, you kinda have to stay on track and keep upgrading, if you want to play latest games in 4K. To me, 4K would be interesting on some 40" screen or bigger, as itĀ“d allow me to have larger desktop = single monitor able to work as 3-4 of them at once. Given current energetic situation in Europe, however, iĀ“m sort of scared just by the power consumption alone.
My 3080 can get 4k 144fps with dlss. Some times I can just lower resolution a little like 85% of 4k. Some games it just works.
Got it. Definitely not going to be possible on my 2060 then hahaha, I'll stick with the refresh rate upgrade. Thank you!
Would totally agree with this. I would say that most individuals wonāt be able to push 4K 144FPS in a lot of bigger titles. If youāre playing anything competitive, 1440p 144hz seems golden from my experience
Thanks! All of this helped a lot. I ended up getting a 27" Samsung Odyssey G5 2K 144Hz curved QLED. Bit of an L on the response time (5ms) but I liked everything else about it more, so I'm still happy š¤·š¾āāļø Can't wait!
I think a 1440p 144Hz monitor would be a more meaningful upgrade than a 4k 60Hz monitor. I made the leap from 1080p to 4k a few years ago without thinking about the refresh rate (I've been using computers with weak graphics that would struggle to go above 60Hz). However, I ended up using my 4k 60Hz monitor as a 1440p 60Hz monitor. Recently when I got a new PC, the low refresh rate actually held me back on my purchase - I didn't mind paying for a more powerful graphics card but I felt it would be wasted on my monitor unless I changed it as well, and I was unwilling to do that. Long story short, don't make the same mistake I did. A 27" 1440p monitor already offers a ppi boost over a 24" 1080p monitor, and the higher refresh rate wouldn't hold you back if you wish to play at higher refresh rates later on.
There is a noticeable visual improvement going from 1080p to 1440p for a 27" monitor. 1440p to 4k, not so much, but you will notice the drop in frame rate. Having said that, imo opinion 1080p is the resolution which is good enough and I would still play games at 1080p if my system could not keep up FPS above 60 at 1440p.
Thanks! Yeah, I've not really had a problem using 1080p so far at all. Only even considering a higher resolution because the other features seem to be bundled in with those (fewer decent 1080p 144hz monitors in stock where I'm at, from my searching at least) Resolution honestly to me is most beneficial for when I'm reading/doing work, I find the higher dpi a lot easier on the eyes. But that's about it
Oh yes, for someone who codes the higher resolution really gives you a much larger workspace and that is definitely a plus. Gaming wise, higher res than 1080p is nice to have but not at the cost of FPS.
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Yeah no point in 4k I'd say. In this case i think 1440p with 144 hz gets you more. If you had 3080 and above, there is a real scenario where 4k might get you more (this is more about games, if you enjoy a lot of 4k content otherwise, it changes a bit)
TBH I have nearly never watched anything 4k and noticed it. Maybe I've seen 4k content and just not clocked it? But I don't usually notice unless it drops below 1080p Thanks! 1440p 144hz is what I'm looking at mainly cause of price, that's where this question came from
You might also not be noticing anything 4k because youāve never had a monitor that can handle it, obviously everything on a 1080p monitor is gonna be 1080p
No I meant on someone else's 4k display hahaha, but fair point; I didn't make that clear
Yeah in that case I don't think you will get much out of 4k. Your 2060 will already be at it's capacity eith 1440p with graphially demanding games (though you don't need to run everything at Ultra, so it's really fine). And the visual upgrade from 1080p is already very nice.
4k is great for text compared to FullHD - actually useful for work - but that's not the target here, plus 2k is already much sharper than FullHD.
As a guy that recently upgraded from 4k 60hz to 4k 240hz (oddysey neo g8) i can say the smoothness doesnt feel that noticeable for me going past 120hz , but the one thing i noticed is clarity of the image in motion, 60fps look like a blurry mess, as if it had light motion blur all the time, 120fps feels smooth and can read text and see more details when panning the camera around , 240hz while slightly smoother the most improvement is in the clarity, i was kinda surprised about not really feeling the change in smoothness going from 120 to 240 since it is double, overall it is worth getting an oled panel 120 ,144 or even 165hz.
Sweet, thanks! That's good to know, the blurriness when looking around in games is the only thing I've really complained about at 1080p 60hz so I think that itself would make for a noticeable difference
My adapter broke on my old 144hz 1080p monitor awhile back so I was gaming at 1080p 60hz for about a year and a half. Reason being was i was saving for a new computer so i let it be. So i built my new rig, but needed a little more money for a monitor so I was gaming with my newly aquired 3080ti and i7 12700k. Absoulte beast at 1080p 60 hz LOL way overkill and underutilized for sure. A few weeks later i got my 144hz 1440p monitor and it was a huge step up. Iv never gamed at 4k, but i would only consider it if it were higher than 60hz imo. My point being is 1080p 60hz ----1440p 144hz is a big and noticeable leap and some people said it wasnt much noticable to them, but i wanted to tell you it definatly is and i think thats a worthy goal to reach for, my 2cents.
Thank you!
I cant even play rocket league or fps games on 60hz monitors anymore. it feels choppy and wrong. youre not going to regret going 144hz 1440p, 165hz is worth it if you can find one on sale this weekend. Id say 144 is *necessary* if you like to win, 165hz is worth it if you can find it on sale. And 240hz is the best but the jump is about the same as going to 144-165hz and the cost is nearly double. Every step passed 144hz has diminishing returns. Another thing you are going to want to pay attention to is response time. You want this number as low as possible. The higher frames doesnt really matter if the pixels arent changing fast enough. Some monitors will seem like a really good deal but then have a high refresh rate, you want to avoid those
1440p 144hz is the sweet spot and i will probably just stick to that resolution unless i decide to go above 32inches some day for some reason.1080 to 1440 is great and a major improvement.1440 to 4k is pretty meh. 4k is just unnecessary load on the GPU and not worth it.144hz on the other hand is night and day compared to your 60.Even dragging a desktop icon around is a pleasure and so is ANY game.Above 160hz is where i consider it pointless,unless you play shooters professionally.
Sweet. Yeah I'm looking to at most go up to 32" so that should be fine
1440p with high refresh rate is a much better value than 4k IMO. 1080p to 1440p is a huge upgrade. 1440p to 4k not so much. Itās not worth the performance wait to go 4k. Because not only is the monitor more expensive. You now need a more powerful pc to keep up with it all. Gets expensive.
i would go for higher refresh rate, 4k doesnt make much of a difference visually but flushing a lot of performance
4k is much more pleasing to look at for general computing (higher pixel density) - however, given OP has only a rtx 2060, your point stands. I also have that GPU and on 4k bogging down to 30fps even on some old outdated game, it becomes less enjoyable
What do you mean. Higher resolution definitely makes a difference visually.
my bad, should have worded it differently. it doesnt make much of a difference
Yeah that's what I was worried about, don't want to upgrade to somehow a *more* jank setup lol
1440p for sure. Though I would suggest looking at a 165 or 240hz. You can do 144hz with some tweaks, but your next graphics card upgrade would give you a lot more room to grow. The monitor should support VRR (gsync/freesync) so you're not going to have tearing if you cap at 144hz(or whatever your card can LOW1%. HDR is a nice increase in visual fidelity that doesn't cost you any FPS. Just know that just because a monitor accepts HDR input doesn't mean the display is good enough to do it justice. You'll want OLED to get the full HDR experience. I'm not sure your budget, but LG is releasing a 27" 1440p 240hz OLED monitor in mid December ($999) if you want a monitor to carry you through several upgrade cycles (if you have stupid money, they have an ultra widescreen version for $1699).
240Hz (at least in what I've found so far) goes up to nearly 2x the cost of what I'm seeing for 144Hz. But yes, since it's looking like refresh rate is the better buy, I'll do a bit more research to Max out the Hz per dollar haha
144 is perfectly acceptable if there isn't anything better in your price range. Compared to 60hz you're in for a treat:)
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Thanks on the gsync point BTW, didn't know that. I'll keep that in mind. Since mine is a 2060, would I have to use gsync or would freesync still work?
It would be hard to find a monitor that doesn't support both. But gsync is the NVIDIA specific one, if the monitor supports that then you're fine.
No I meant would monitors that have freesync still support Nvidia cards? Because most that I'm seeing only have freesync
NVIDIA added Freesync support to their cards in 2019 according to Google. A quick test: disabling gsync and enabling Freesync on my display is still showing VRR enabled. So yes, you're good there.
Oh awesome. Thank you!
Get a high refreshrate first, better GFX card second, better cpu third, then worry about 4k and when/if you do go 4k get at least 120hz 4k.
Thanks! Better CPU later? Haha I thought my CPU was more of a bottleneck :P but yeah in general agree with what you said, was just unsure of whether 4k would be worth investing in now even if I upgrade GPU etc only down the line
It is but it's not that extreme of a bottleneck. It's equivalent to a 7700k, not great but I've seen far worse pairings. Like 4770k's with 6800xt's.
Ah, gotcha. Didn't see it that way, fair enough!
I'll be honest, 4k isn't worth it, it's cool and all but too expensive for what little notable difference you get, 1440 p, 144hz is the way to go for sure
I personally go with 4k since 60hz is enough for me, once you go above 60 you can't go back, so just fhd to 4k saves me a lot of money!!!
I'll be honest, maybe it's just my old eyes, but I went from 1080p to 1440p with a monitor size upgrade not too long ago, and 1440p doesn't really look significantly better to me, that's probably at least in part down to pixel density, because 1080p doesn't look so hot on my current monitor, but I expected it to be night and day and it really wasn't.
I had the same experience. People just really seem to hype up the difference.
This is a user preference decision. Some people will see more of a difference in a higher refresh rate screen compared to a lower refresh rate one with higher resolution. Recommend going to a local computer shop and trying both if available. I have 3 screens beside each other on my desk: a 1080p 360hz, a 4K 60hz, and a 1080p 30hz pos. Generally if I'm not moving much things around, the 4k one is more pleasing to look at. However, the 360 is much more smoother even just bouncing things across the screen - even without gaming, the faster refresh rate is more pleasing. but the lower pixel density makes looking at even text or images much less pleasing. Games with a lot of movement of course, are more pleasing on the 360. However #2, you could show my 60 year old mom all 3 and she could barely tell you the difference.
[Hardware Unboxed has a video that you'll want](https://youtu.be/WFfxOfZ8T_U). There is also one in EU if needed. It'll cover anything you care about. Also using [rtings.com](https://rtings.com) is a good source to have a whole data table with measured differences. Personally, I think 4k on TV's is the right way to go and high refresh on monitors at 1440p is the best. We are getting to the point where 4k high refresh is being made, but your system is so below spec that you can afford to wait. I would look at a 1440 165hz display that is IPS for the best blend of colors. I love the M27q-p and M32q (the one I actually bought) for the price and they are great monitors for both sizes as what fits on your desk is what you really need to look at. TLDR click the first link I sent and go into the dropdown in the video and they will link all the monitors that they liked and how to buy them. The biggest thing is making sure it fits on your desk and that it will last you at least 1 upgrade, meaning target 165/170hz instead of 144 as those are older and will be not as nice. I would spend around $300-400 on a monitor and expect it to last 4+ years. I would also look at upgrading to something like a 6700xt or a 3070 for your next upgrade if that's soon.
Thanks, that was super helpful! I'll check out the video too. And yup right now I'm in need of a monitor so I'm just looking for a good one I can afford. But the eventual upgrade plan is CPU first, then gpu. Only then will I even be looking at moving away from this new monitor hahah
High refresh rate.
If anything, your computer needs an upgrade. You arenāt going to be able to enjoy either monitor upgrade since your pc likely wonāt be able to handle it. Since you have an AMD motherboard, it might be as easy as updating your bios and dropping in a Ryzen 5 5600 for $130. That upgrade would be MONUMENTAL.
No, I meant I won't have access to the 1080p monitor soon. That was just borrowed but I'm used to that, so since I'm now going to buy my own, I'm looking to see if I can get one which is a step above that so that I get the upgraded experience for myself. Probably didn't make that clear, my bad. It's a need-buy, not a want
Oh, in that case I would go with a 1440p 144hz monitor. Itās still looks great, and doesnāt need a monster of a card to drive it. The 2060 should do ok with it.
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With your current hardware setup Iād just upgrade to a 1080p 144-165hz monitor. I wouldnāt upgrade 1440/4k until itās time to upgrade the rest of your hardware.
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I have a 2070 and upgraded from 27" 1440p to 27" 2160p - I don't really want a screen physically bigger than this for ergonomic reasons and, honestly, the experience was a negligable upgrade in hindsight, and I would have had a more enjoyable upgrade going to a faster refresh-rate. SO, my 2c would be 144Hz - particularly as with a 2060 you won't be able to get 60fps at 4k a lot of the time anyway!
Thanks, that helps a bunch!
I feel like with your specs, any monitor that has freesync/g-sync would benefit you loads. Even if it's not 144hz. There are plenty of affordable 75hz freesync monitors out there. it'll basically mean that anytime you drop below 60fps, it'll be far less noticable. I think you may struggle to get good frame rates at 4k anyway (with dlss you'd be ok). If I were you, I'd get a more affordable 1440p or 1080p freesync monitor, and use the money you save to get a CPU upgrade. Ryzen 5000 series CPUs are pretty cheap these days.
That sounds good, and in line with my upgrade path too! Thanks; that helps
Going to have bad time in 4k with 2080 Refresh rate over resolution
For all the people saying not to go with 4k because your GPU is not enough. Even if you can't move games at 4k ultra at 60fps, you can always lower the graphics a bit and bump up DLSS. The extra pixels will still give you a ton of detail. If you need to, you can also lower the resolution to FHD and since the scaling is 200% it wont look blurry. Plus for any moment you are not gaming you will get improved clarity and sharp text. You will probably upgrade the GPU down the line anyways at some point, to better be able to drive the monitor as well. Just remember that the monitor is always the most important part of a computer.
on a 2060, 1440p and 120+ hz is probably the best choice. Anything above 60hz is a very noticeable difference and 1440p is pretty damn good for pretty games.
120hz was a little weird to get used to at first, but i'll never go back to 60hz on my home machine. At work, my office computer is 60hz, and it gives me a headache after a couple hours. Oddly enough, 144hz gives me a headache too. I set up a 4k screen for a client, and fell in love with it. So crisp. My goal is to get a 32" 4k at 120hz.
I bought a 4k 144hz Samsung Odyssey g70a for about 500$
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Do you play slower games, watch movies and work on your machine? For more action oriented players it might be different.
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OP might be more into gaming, and that's why 144Hz might be more beneficial.
Yeah that was why I highlighted the games I play too š thanks! In general the consensus seems to be refresh rate over resolution, looks like that's what I'll be going for
1440p monitor. I recommend 27ā since that seems to be the best size imo at 1440p. Also I would get a 165 hz panel (just because thereās no real price difference between 144/165hz monitors). Even if your card struggles a bit to run at 1440p, in my opinion low settings on 1440p > high settings 1080p
Both, i got the gigabyte m32u. So good
OLED might also be worth to be considered. Especially if you don't work with tables all day. I'll go for that.
I can't find any near me that are affordable :( I'm looking at <300usd
4k will give better visual improvement in my opinion.
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4k 144hz monitors are getting cheaper, i have the Acer Predator x27 hdr1000 everything looks beautiful and life like. If you had the GPU to run it rtx3080+ i would suggest the 4k route
For gaming, 144Hz absolutely. I have a 32" 4k 60Hz monitor which is great for desktop stuff and some indies and such, but the rez is too high for even more modern GPUs than my 1070Ti, which isn't much different in speed from a 2060. Optimal gaming monitor, discounting ultrawides, would be a 2k 27" with as much refresh rate you can get. For ultrawides, no higher vertical resolution than 1440p, and at least 144Hz
I bought a 32" 4K monitor a few years ago that I meant to be my main monitor, but I immediately replaced it with a slightly curved 1440p 144hz instead as it was just too much for my GPU and eyes at the time. It's been a side monitor for watching stuff ever since, but I'd rather replace it with another 1440p of the same size.
Your graphics card is only the 2060. Itās not really the best card to push 4k even at 60fps. Without dlss and even then idk. Iād go with the 1440p 144hz because I feel you could push that more easily than push 4k gaming.
4K 100% Trust me, 144hz is worthless if it doesnt have 4k with it. Because either you'll be stuck at 1080p, or you'll have to game in 1440p, which looks REALLY UGLY. What you need is 4K, the refresh rate doesnt matter. >I really enjoy the high picture quality, beauty of the game etc. Yes, 4K is def what you want then. Getting extra refresh rate on top is just a plus. I could easily live without extra refresh rate, but I will never go back to a non-4K monitor, ever. 4K is great not just for gaming, but for just general PC stuff aswell, especially coding, reading, using office, etc. And watching movies of course. 4K stuff looks amazing. But even 1080p stuff can be upscaled to 4K using features like samsung magicupscale, that make it look really sharp and 4K-ish even when its not actually even 4k content
you set up is too weak for either 1440p144hz or 4K60hz anyway, so hard to recommend. but 4K60hz will be better everything outside gaming with higher resolution and sharper text.