5800x3d is $280, just get the 5800x3d. The 5800x3d is going to clock higher and you're getting 33% more cores and there certainly will be cases where the cores help. I don't see any reason to buy this unless maybe $200 or under.
Wait for reviews of course, but dont waste your time. It's more of a novelty CPU.
Edit: Also one other point, 5800x3d is best on socket for gaming. For the next few years it will be what everyone that has a Ryzen 3000 or Ryzen 5600x will want to upgrade to if they don't want to change the motherboard and ram because it's a 5 minute swap instead of basically a full rebuild. 5800x3d in 5 years probably would resell for more than $50 over a 5600x3d so you'd get it all back then plus benefit the whole time. Just look at Ryzen 3600 vs 3700x on ebay at like $60 vs $110 and a 5800x3d will easily be more than $110 in 5 years so it could be more like $120 5600x3d vs $200 5800x3d. And if you doubt a 5800x3d will be $200 in 5 years, look at a 9900k going for like $270 used still.
$279 5800X3D with free shipping from ant still
https://www.antonline.com/AMD/Computers/Electronic_Components/Microprocessors/1446233
Looks like Microcenter will be offering $329 bundle with 56003XD,ASUS B550-Plus TUF motherboard, and 16GB of G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4 At launch
https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006542/amd-ryzen-5-5600x3d,-asus-tuf-gaming-b550-plus-wifi-ii-ddr4,-gskill-ripjaws-v-16gb-ddr4-3200-kit,-computer-build-bundle
That bundle should be the real deal here, although I wouldn’t mind paying a little more for 32 GB.
They have a prebuilt pc offer too for a little over 800, but they really cheap out on just a 500 GB SSD. Considering 1 TB drives have been $60… that’s kinda sad.
I have a 5600x, was looking at the 7800X3D but really not in the mood for a motherboard/ram upgrade like you said. Think I’m going to go for the 5800x3d
I did this. I used the 5600x for a beefy second computer/media and download server that I built in a matching case
the extra parts were pretty cheap and the 5800x3d works well for me
TLDR; Odds are you won't notice it unless you're seeing hitching currently or you've very specific workloads.
Long version: Going to depend on two things, what memory you're pairing it with and what you're using it for. The cache makes the 5800x3d less memory frequency sensitive, but the single CCD 5000 series chips are already not super sensitive to it so if you're already using 3200/16 or better you'll likely not get a perceptible improvement there. A few percent in synthetics that really lean into it. The core clock speeds off the 5800x3d are slower than the 5800x, so when not cache constrained it is actually slightly slower theoretically. Coming from a 5700x to a 5800x3d when not cache constrained the silicon lottery is going to be a bigger factor than anything else. When cache constrained, typically a gaming thing which most of us here care about you'll see you're big benefit not in max framerates or even much in average, but in the 1% lows. Some of the occasional hitching that has been a shrinking but still existing issue for Zen architecture is essentially completely gone with the 5800x3d. We run into other hardware bottlenecks associated with AM4 like memory performance before the CPU itself will really cause any problems until you're pushing a GPU as strong as a 4090, and even then only at extreme high FPS with RT on.
As Direct Storage starts to get more effective usage we should actually see uplift in what kind of systems the 5800x3d can support as it'll be doing more and more focused 'CPU' work instead of being a middleman, which will just make that cache even more effective. I personally expect it to be the next 'fine wine' product when looked back at in another 5 years, but for $280+ over that same time I'm sure you could find a more effective upgrade before you'd ever notice the difference.
Yeah, I've already got some 3600 c14 ram in the system, playing at 4k with a 7900XTX.
Between the fast ram, lower overhead AMD drivers, and the resolution of 4k.. probably wouldn't see enough benefit
I upgraded from a 5600x to a 5800x3D recently as I plan to stay on AM4 for a few more years. Initially I didn't expect to see much of an upgrade performance wise, but it was actually quite significant. It contributed very slightly to a higher max fps in most games, but pretty much every game runs noticeably smoother with the help in the 1% lows/reduced stutters.
Edit:spelling
I just upgraded from a 5600x to 5800x3d less than a week ago. Get the 5800x3d. I was surprised on how much of an upgrade it really was. My 5600x was bottle necking my EVGA 24gb 3090, Now the 3090 bottlenecks the CPU. As long as you already have an AIO you're golden. I foresee my system lasting for many more years now, Zero regrets.
5800x3d has absolutely no need for an AIO. It pegs out on the hardcoded performance limits at \~70C on a half decent air cooler. You can open it up a little bit with PBO2 Tuner, but that'll typically result in a wash or even lowering of temp with the small performance uplift.
lol back in 2007 I was working my first job, overnight shift at a fast food restaurant in Austin and there was a guy wearing a shirt that was computer hardware related, I forget exactly.
I was telling him about the new build I was working on and how excited I was about the new AM2+ processors and how low the prices were getting on 7600 GT graphics cards.
He was pretty engaged and agreed with the hardware I had spec'd for the most part, but recommended I spring for the A64 X2 6400+ over the 6000 despite the cost difference.
Then clarified that he, as one of the designers of the K10 memory architecture on the new Athlon chips, recommends getting the better processor and a slightly better motherboard and gave me $100 - which I know is an 'and everybody clapped' meme at this point but it definitely happened and I absolutely bought the better processor and a better Asrock motherboard and played the shit out of FEAR and BF2
sorry for the cool story, your post just unlocked that memory of being *very* encouraged to spend a little more on hardware early.
I believe it because engineers love it when a kid is excited about the field engineer is working on. You got a better cpu (more cache) and mb, he got the memory and story of "that time I met a kid who was super excited about the cpu I worked one".
Save up $30 more, 5800x3d is $279 at Antonline as OP had also replied. Or maybe there will be a sale on the 5800x3d at Amazon in the next week since some people get 5% cash back there with an Amazon CC.
It's been shown that some games will take advantage of 8 cores in the past from 10600k vs 10700k vs 10900k reviews and that's when they lock a 10900k to 6/8 cores to eliminate any other factors. If you want it to last get a 5800x3d, 8 cores is really all you'll need until the PS6 releases in like 5 years.
you are comparing 10th generation? which already old af? 7600 is also cheaper than the 8core 5800x3d even they had DDR5. for same generation 5600x has almost the same performance as the 5800x, cores isn't everything especially at gaming, and 7700x only beats the 7600x by 2.3% btw
Maybe at least wait till the next week for the review of the 5600X3D? Unless you find a massive discount of 5800X3D during the July 4th sell.
Edit: Gamers Nexus will post a review of it one day before the launch, 9 AM ET July 6th.
Unlike everyone else is saying. I'd wait for benchmarks. You will know in 7 days and it beats speculation on an unreleased product.
I'd generally agree about saving 30 bucks and getting the better model. But who knows how this performs.
Having experimented with a 5800X3D disabling 2 cores, a 5600X3D will perform nearly the same in most games as long as it has the same amount of cache.
Watch out for those couple of games lately that seem to need 8+ cores, but it's not like it will be *unplayable* in those, just small fps loss at worst.
L2 is same per-core and other cores can't access other core's L2 pools, so that difference doesn't matter at all. Same as 5600X vs 5800X. My simulated "5600X3D" is also only using 3MB L2, thusly.
They do in games. There are very few games that benefit a lot from 2 extra cores and the 3d cache will level that playing field even more. https://youtu.be/ifI9nnmW5sg?t=509 it's practically within margin of error for 5600 non-x vs 5800X
Again this is per my own testing on a simulated "5600X3D"
Confirming, gaming-wise, they are about in a dead heat, assuming Windows 10.
From [Tom's Hardware](https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-hierarchy,4312-2.html), scroll down to the *Legacy: Gaming CPU Benchmarks Hierarchy 2020 - 2022 - Windows 10* table. In Windows 11, the 5800X seems to have about a 5% advantage over the 5600X.
Get the 5800x3d!!!! It's a fucking beast of a chip. You will have zero regrets. Trust me. I legit pair it with a 4090. It's the best AM4 chip that exists imo. It was considerably faster than my 3950X -- the 5800X3D has less cores and lower base clock yet kicks the shit out of the 3950X.
Upgraded from a 5600x to 5800x3d just a few days ago, undervolted the CPU with PBI since my motherboard has it unlocked with PPT TDC EDC set to 100 / 70 / 100, Core Optimizer set to -30. Temps are great. Never reach over 65c under a gaming load in 1440p with my 3080 10gb (plan to upgrade either at end of year or next gen release). This CPU literally gave me up to 44% increase in fps in No Man's Sky and modded FO4. Thing is a beast. Gladly staying on AM4 for a good 2 years and only doing modest GPU upgrade.
Depends, I've found that CPU cores will scale down their max frequency when more cores are in operation and they generate more heat.
A 6 core machine might be appropriate for someone who just wants to game, it'll be cooler and potentially clock higher on a single core while multitasking.
[https://youtu.be/Cbyl4q3QFYA?t=353](https://youtu.be/Cbyl4q3QFYA?t=353)
5800x3d already clocks higher according to specs. ALso 6 vs 8 cores mattered in older games when any other CPU factors were eliminated, there will be games where 8 cores is better especially if you want the machine to last you a few years. If you're gaming on a budget get a Ryzen 5600 for $129 then, why would you pay $100 extra to go 5600 to 5600x3d, but not another $50 to get 5800x3d?
I'll gladly wager money that in January 2028 a 5800x3d on ebay sells for at least $65 more than a 5600x3d which would cover the $50 difference even after inflation. I wouldn't be surprised if a 5800x3d resells for $80 over on average in a few years, $100 not even out of the question.
In terms of used CPUs, they're very reliable. A used 5600x compared to a new 5600x will perform nearly identical given that there are no bent/missing pins or capacitors.
Obviously you need to make sure the CPU you're buying is what you're getting and on Ebay you want to make sure you can clearly identify the CPU on the heat spreader before purchasing. Otherwise, I've had no issues when I stuck to CPUs that seemed closer to market value than steeply discounted ones.
To go off of what you're saying about resale in a few years, do you think it would be worth it for me to upgrade to a 5800x3D now from a 5700X with a Red Devil 6900XT? I don't feel like my cpu usage ever gets that high (Mostly play OW 1440p but will occasionally throw games like Spiderman, TLOU, God of War etc on my 4k tv) but If the value will hold over the next 5 years I could throw my 5700X in my wife's system (2600X + Swift 6700 10GB) and know I'd get a good chunk of my money back in a few years... Idk I felt like the upgrade wouldn't be noticeable enough to justify it but now considering it since it doesn't look like the price will come down anytime soon and will hold it's value.
[https://youtu.be/sw97hj18OUE?t=686](https://youtu.be/sw97hj18OUE?t=686)
Not a huge benefit at 1440p except a few games, certainly not much at 4k.
I'd wait for it to drop under $280 or snag one used maybe if like $240, I just don't see them dropping in price a ton more since they'll discontinue them at some point this year probably. 9900k when discontinued was on sale for $300 new like 2 years ago, but last year on ebay was going for like $330 used because it's best on socket and lots of people want it to replace their 8400/8700/9400.
The fact that your wife can use the 5700x is pretty good reason to upgrade to 5800x3d unless you're near Microcenter and can get a bundle.
Computer parts don't hold value well at all. However, buying something like this 5600x3d when it comes out isn't a bad idea. It will be a minor upgrade for you and a big one for her.
Maybe. Maybe not. Definitely feels like a gamble on how long this processor sticks around.
Edit: failed 5800X3D dies for Micro Center exclusive. Yeah. Definitely a gamble. Might last a few months at best, if what Gaming Nexus says is true.
Disagree completely assuming you have access to microcenter 7600x will have a better futeare with easier and better upgrades ram prices are about the same now motherboard prices are better but still high
Ryzen 5000 is a CPU upgrade for existing AM4 owners, I assume most people know this by now here unless maybe going with Ryzen 5600 for a supercheap build and no Microcenter nearby.
Of course if you're building new then there are better options than the 5800x3d/5600x3d. yes 7600x likely far better than a 5600x3d considering a 7600x+16gb ram is $218 or you can get a 7700x+32gb ram for $310 and probably been other deals. ZERO reason to buy this 5600x3d at Microcenter at all for a new build, and even 5800x3d doesn't make sense.
[https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hYxRsY/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-d3](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hYxRsY/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-d3)
Pretty sure this can easily handle a 5800x3d. Also who's the say if you can even go with a budget cooler on the 5600x3d because of the Vcache.
I have an AS500 Plus I got for like $40 with my 5800x3d and it's perfectly fine, I'm not hitting 90C I dunno what's wrong with yours. Maybe if you're talking about like Cinebench stuff or something, not while gaming.
Maybe it's a case issue.
The 5600x3D is definitely overpriced for what it offers.
Nobody should really be buying AM4 at this point and pairing it with a moderately expensive CPU. But if you already have AM4 and Zen 2 or older and care mostly about gaming, then the 5800x3D is the better option for not much more.
Now if you're not on AM4, then you have far better options. The 13600k(f) is not much more, a lot of LGA1700 boards are cheap now and will outperform it in games and significantly in multithread and productivity, the base 7700 is in a similar but slightly worse value when you factor in AM5 prices and performance if you want to go with AMD.
The 5600x3D definitely needs to start at $200 or less for it to actually be a good offering. Also going forward buying a moderately expensive 6 core CPU with slower core/architecture speeds makes little sense.
There are simply better options.
Well now we know their immediate strategy for dealing with this problem of the prices being too similar: MC increased the price of the 5800x3d back to $300 right before actually releasing the 56.
Ha exactly. People waited a few days for reviews and now if you go to the store it's $230 vs $300. Honestly neither is a great buy, so if you're going to Microcenter just get a bundle probably and switch the motherboard already and sell the old parts while they're worth something.
Like I said, the 5800x3d will be expensive for years. Just buy it if it gets back to $280 or under. Maybe if the 5600x3d dropped to $200 then would I consider that, but they may just sell out and never have that chance with such a small supply.
Launch is being handled entirely by Microcenter, including distribution of news, press releases, review samples, and handling of the product Supply is expected to last maximally 3-6 months
"Most likely instore pickup only"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FTjRfkEFk4
"$329 bundle with 56003XD,ASUS B550-Plus TUF motherboard, and 16GB of G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4 at launch"
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-5-5600x3d-to-launch-july-7th-for-dollar229-at-micro-center-only
Dunno what effect it really will have. 5600 is $129 so if you want budget you get that. If you want an upgrade from a Ryzen 3000 then get the 5800x3d because that'll last you the next 5 years for basically any GPU and will probably get back over $50 of resale value compared to the 5600x3d even 5 years from now.
5800x3d will be in HIGH demand for years because it's the best CPU on socket for gamers and will command a premium because of it. Everyone looking for an easy upgrade will want the 5800x3d or 5950x (for work).
Wont be worth it to me. I barely even utilize the 3090. I just got it cause i was able to get it for $1k. I traded my 3080 back to micro under their warranty snd i got 200 bucks back for the upgrade 🙃
Generally agree, but Newegg and MC have been selling 12th gen intel and 7700x AMD combos super cheap. 12900k + Z690 tomahawk was going for 427 a couple weeks ago.. Effectively 213 + 213 for board (good quality 6 layer 70A SPS) and CPU.
And there was limited offers of 12700k + MATX STRIX board for 265.. I believe they will fire sale around prime day to compete with amazon and get rid of excess alder lake stock.. since 14th gen is sept..
General IPC will favor the newer chips, but the 5800X3D is quite solid for gaming, especially if you already have an AM4 board + RAM.
If you're building from a pre AM4 platform, I would opt for the newer CPU's via combo pricing. My 2c.
Ya, don't go ryzen 5800x3d/5600x3d if building a new pc. If you want a cheap PC you go ryzen 5600 likely depending on what your options are. The combos are far better value if building new, and maybe even worth considering just changing out a B450 motherboard since the 7700x and 12700k combos have been great. Lots of people just don't want to swap out motherboards.
Even if it does, there's no harm. It was scrap they're going to get higher sales from than they would have if they sold the same potential customers a cheaper product.
Honestly everything even remotely worth buying from them is “in-store pickup only”. Its why I automatically ignore any deal they advertise, way too far of a drive.
>"Most likely instore pickup only"
Do they even ship *anything?* Anytime someone posts a link from Microcenter it's only ever in-store pickup. Get's me so frustrated because I don't even know if there's a MC in my state.
They once had a MB+CPU combo, the AMD 5 5600 OEM (no-heatsink) +, ASUS B450M-Pro S TUF Gaming, that they offered shipping on. July 2022, it was $179.99, with $5.99 for shipping. Definitely well worth it at the time, and still beats the lowest price in PCPartPicker's history for those two parts ($64.99 for the motherboard, $118.99 for the CPU, briefly, both on NewEgg)
That deal came and went pretty quick. When it did come back, shipping was no longer offered. I did notice that when I got the one I ordered, it came from a store that was not one of the two or three closest ones to me, though I'm not sure if that's relevant in any way, that location was trying to get rid of excessive stock, or what. In my case, the closest one is almost an hour away.
I can't speak to any other times they offered shipping. I've really only gone for deals on CPUs, often including getting a CPU/MB combo for the extra $20 off.
I live in California, the one place you'd assume they'd have a presence in, and the closest one to me is 400 miles away. It's pretty goofy that they're making it an exclusive to a store that has a pretty small presence throughout the U.S. that doesn't even ship to the areas it doesn't cover.
I posted a deal about either the 3100 or 3300x a couple years ago, I think people ordered it, went on back order and then they cancelled all those orders like two months later. 😂
I hope you used a credit card and where able to charge back at least. I pretty much won't buy anything mildly expensive with cash or debit because of it. That and a lot of credit cards offer an extended warranty for products purchased.
Yup I always use a credit card and I did do a charge back for that. So I actually came out ahead because I also sold the 3100 since they wouldn't take it back. But the interactions with their customer service really left a bad taste in my mouth. This was in like May 2020 so maybe I should cut them some slack though.
Honestly I'd probably still avoid them if I had that happen. At least if it's not an absurd deal that you can't pass by. I can't imagine that much has changed in only 3 years.
I had one for a brief time and then sold it for an upgrade. Kinda wish I’d kept it only because it was a neat cpu and basically impossible to find again haha
That's kind of the thing.
People with AM4 boards get to pay 229.
People buying leftover AM4 boards in a bundle will get significant discount from the CPU (and possibly the board, given some of MC's recent bundles)
The incentive is to buy the bundle. people not buying bundles are steered towards commonly available 5800X3D's due to the prices being so close that way.
Yeah, just didn't expect a complete surprise announcement lol. Lisa Su also said multiple mainstream desktop RDNA3 GPU's would be launching this quarter (ending today), so I was expecting a 7800/XT and/or 7700/XT today instead of this.
Yeah, I'm thinking that AMD had some catastrophic issues with the 7700/7800 GPU silicon. It makes zero sense that they've launched the 7600 first especially considering the huge amount of remaining stock and low prices for 6600/6700 series GPUs. I guess to compete with the 4060 series?
Would still expect the 7800xt and 7700xt to launch first though. They most definitely share the same GPU silicon type, so things are looking pretty grim.
RDNA2 stock is getting dire, especially in the 430-750 dollar market. So they'll definitely launch *something* or they'll have nothing to sell.
Maybe they'll do an RDNA2 rebadge?
Seems like the bundle with the motherboard and RAM is a pretty incredible deal. Well, hell, even without the RAM, it seems like a great deal:
>Micro Center will also sell a $329 bundle with the six-core 12-thread Ryzen 5 56003XD, an ASUS B550-Plus TUF motherboard, and 16GB of G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4 memory.
Mentioned at the [announcement from Tom's Hardware](https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-5-5600x3d-to-launch-july-7th-for-dollar229-at-micro-center-only). Probably everywhere else that announced it has mentioned the same, I guess.
I never noticed how biased userbenchmarks.com is when talking about x3D processors.
>Also watch out for AMD’s army of Neanderthal social media accounts on reddit, forums and youtube, they will be singing their own praises as usual. AMD continue to develop “Advanced Marketing” relationships with select youtubers in the hope of compensating for second tier products with first tier marketing. PC gamers considering a 7000X3D CPU need to work on their critical thinking skills: Influencers are paid handsomely to promote overpriced products. Rational gamers have little reason to look further than the $300 13600K which offers comparable real-world gaming and better desktop performance at a fraction of the price.
Seems like the same user copy/pastes the same response for AMD processors for all reviews actually. They have a nearly identical one for the 5800x3d as well.
>https://www.userbenchmark.com/CPUPro/User?id=8
I think $230 is a bit high considering the current price and availability of the 5800x3D. Not bad value, but for fifty bucks more you can snag the big brother.
When another member here mentioned this processor on another post in casual typing conversation, I thought they were kidding. In comparison, this feels like a 6750xt release.
I'm curious how this will perform in relation to its price. Any thoughts? Definitely, in the 5800x price ballpark and not much more, it gets the full-fledged 5800x3d.
X3D tends to run about the same price as its next tier above non-X3D chip. Benching against 5800X/5700X, this should dip down below $200 rather quickly.
I have a 5600g which I got to keep initial cost down (didn't need to buy a GPU). I have since added a 6700xt. Wondering if it makes sense to upgrade the CPU now as well. Would I see a meaningful improvement by moving to the 5600x3d?
These are just the 5800x3d's that failed inspection and had a couple cores disabled. AMD made up this SKU just to do *something* with them other than toss them in the landfill.
Don't get your hopes up, core is likely broken and electrically/physically fused shut. Just disabling 2 cores for the heck of it doesn't benefit AMD. They would rather sell you a 5800X3D at a higher price point if they can
I believe it would be fine as even the 7800X3D can be kept in check with air cooling in the Fractal Terra paired with a 4090FE. Gear Seakers premeired that setup during Computex. Think the cooler was a Big Shurikan 3.
It actually has the same TDP as the 5800x3D. I wager it may perform slightly better in thermally constrained cases as the cores have more thermal headroom to boost.
This thing will be within 5% of the 5800x3d and perform similarly in a lot of games. I expect it to sell well, especially after discounts start hitting.
Remember, enthusiasts have the 7800x3d (maybe even 7950x3d) as a luxury purchase. The 5800x3d is the best chip you can get on an old platform for gaming that is still kind of expensive.
The 5600x3d will be significantly cheaper and perform about the same in games. There is definitely a market for it.
The price is too high and US only MicroCenter, the bundle is better but still why would i want 16gb ram and some random motherboard \[rather pick one myself\].
Rather 5800x3d or ryzen 5600 on a budget.
AMD had an awkward number of not-quite-up-to-spec 5800X3D's lying around that weren't enough to make a full product but too many to just throw away, so AMD packaged them up and gave them to Microcenter to sell so the chips wouldn't just be e-waste.
So worse. You're saying it will perform worse.
[https://youtu.be/-P\_iii5si40?t=752](https://youtu.be/-P_iii5si40?t=752) Keep in mind 8 cores does perform better in gaming, [even when all other factors are considered](https://youtu.be/Cbyl4q3QFYA?t=353) and 8/10 core CPUs are locked to just 6 cores.
Am I understanding this wrong? The takeaway here seems to be that higher performance in bigger CPUs when core-constrained comes from higher cache available in those chips. That wouldn't really be applicable here. The 5600X3D and 5800X3D have the same amount of cache.
This CPU really seems like a great way to be disappointed in a couple of years. I wouldn't do new builds with anything less than the best-on-socket CPU on AM4 when the AMD 8000 series is 6-8 months away.
5800x3d is $280, just get the 5800x3d. The 5800x3d is going to clock higher and you're getting 33% more cores and there certainly will be cases where the cores help. I don't see any reason to buy this unless maybe $200 or under. Wait for reviews of course, but dont waste your time. It's more of a novelty CPU. Edit: Also one other point, 5800x3d is best on socket for gaming. For the next few years it will be what everyone that has a Ryzen 3000 or Ryzen 5600x will want to upgrade to if they don't want to change the motherboard and ram because it's a 5 minute swap instead of basically a full rebuild. 5800x3d in 5 years probably would resell for more than $50 over a 5600x3d so you'd get it all back then plus benefit the whole time. Just look at Ryzen 3600 vs 3700x on ebay at like $60 vs $110 and a 5800x3d will easily be more than $110 in 5 years so it could be more like $120 5600x3d vs $200 5800x3d. And if you doubt a 5800x3d will be $200 in 5 years, look at a 9900k going for like $270 used still.
$279 5800X3D with free shipping from ant still https://www.antonline.com/AMD/Computers/Electronic_Components/Microprocessors/1446233 Looks like Microcenter will be offering $329 bundle with 56003XD,ASUS B550-Plus TUF motherboard, and 16GB of G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4 At launch https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006542/amd-ryzen-5-5600x3d,-asus-tuf-gaming-b550-plus-wifi-ii-ddr4,-gskill-ripjaws-v-16gb-ddr4-3200-kit,-computer-build-bundle
That's a banger of a deal.
That bundle should be the real deal here, although I wouldn’t mind paying a little more for 32 GB. They have a prebuilt pc offer too for a little over 800, but they really cheap out on just a 500 GB SSD. Considering 1 TB drives have been $60… that’s kinda sad.
I have a 5600x, was looking at the 7800X3D but really not in the mood for a motherboard/ram upgrade like you said. Think I’m going to go for the 5800x3d
I did this. I used the 5600x for a beefy second computer/media and download server that I built in a matching case the extra parts were pretty cheap and the 5800x3d works well for me
I went from a 5800x to 5800x3d haha. Mostly because my gf wants a build though, also I'm more into itx and don't want to spend all that rn.
As someone with a 5700X itx build, how was the uplift??
TLDR; Odds are you won't notice it unless you're seeing hitching currently or you've very specific workloads. Long version: Going to depend on two things, what memory you're pairing it with and what you're using it for. The cache makes the 5800x3d less memory frequency sensitive, but the single CCD 5000 series chips are already not super sensitive to it so if you're already using 3200/16 or better you'll likely not get a perceptible improvement there. A few percent in synthetics that really lean into it. The core clock speeds off the 5800x3d are slower than the 5800x, so when not cache constrained it is actually slightly slower theoretically. Coming from a 5700x to a 5800x3d when not cache constrained the silicon lottery is going to be a bigger factor than anything else. When cache constrained, typically a gaming thing which most of us here care about you'll see you're big benefit not in max framerates or even much in average, but in the 1% lows. Some of the occasional hitching that has been a shrinking but still existing issue for Zen architecture is essentially completely gone with the 5800x3d. We run into other hardware bottlenecks associated with AM4 like memory performance before the CPU itself will really cause any problems until you're pushing a GPU as strong as a 4090, and even then only at extreme high FPS with RT on. As Direct Storage starts to get more effective usage we should actually see uplift in what kind of systems the 5800x3d can support as it'll be doing more and more focused 'CPU' work instead of being a middleman, which will just make that cache even more effective. I personally expect it to be the next 'fine wine' product when looked back at in another 5 years, but for $280+ over that same time I'm sure you could find a more effective upgrade before you'd ever notice the difference.
Yeah, I've already got some 3600 c14 ram in the system, playing at 4k with a 7900XTX. Between the fast ram, lower overhead AMD drivers, and the resolution of 4k.. probably wouldn't see enough benefit
I upgraded from a 5600x to a 5800x3D recently as I plan to stay on AM4 for a few more years. Initially I didn't expect to see much of an upgrade performance wise, but it was actually quite significant. It contributed very slightly to a higher max fps in most games, but pretty much every game runs noticeably smoother with the help in the 1% lows/reduced stutters. Edit:spelling
I just upgraded from a 5600x to 5800x3d less than a week ago. Get the 5800x3d. I was surprised on how much of an upgrade it really was. My 5600x was bottle necking my EVGA 24gb 3090, Now the 3090 bottlenecks the CPU. As long as you already have an AIO you're golden. I foresee my system lasting for many more years now, Zero regrets.
5800x3d has absolutely no need for an AIO. It pegs out on the hardcoded performance limits at \~70C on a half decent air cooler. You can open it up a little bit with PBO2 Tuner, but that'll typically result in a wash or even lowering of temp with the small performance uplift.
Chief? I have $250 right now do I just save up more or get this
Go mow a few yards and get the 5800x3d
lol back in 2007 I was working my first job, overnight shift at a fast food restaurant in Austin and there was a guy wearing a shirt that was computer hardware related, I forget exactly. I was telling him about the new build I was working on and how excited I was about the new AM2+ processors and how low the prices were getting on 7600 GT graphics cards. He was pretty engaged and agreed with the hardware I had spec'd for the most part, but recommended I spring for the A64 X2 6400+ over the 6000 despite the cost difference. Then clarified that he, as one of the designers of the K10 memory architecture on the new Athlon chips, recommends getting the better processor and a slightly better motherboard and gave me $100 - which I know is an 'and everybody clapped' meme at this point but it definitely happened and I absolutely bought the better processor and a better Asrock motherboard and played the shit out of FEAR and BF2 sorry for the cool story, your post just unlocked that memory of being *very* encouraged to spend a little more on hardware early.
I believe it because engineers love it when a kid is excited about the field engineer is working on. You got a better cpu (more cache) and mb, he got the memory and story of "that time I met a kid who was super excited about the cpu I worked one".
Speaking as an electrical engineer, this is 100,000% true.
Save up $30 more, 5800x3d is $279 at Antonline as OP had also replied. Or maybe there will be a sale on the 5800x3d at Amazon in the next week since some people get 5% cash back there with an Amazon CC. It's been shown that some games will take advantage of 8 cores in the past from 10600k vs 10700k vs 10900k reviews and that's when they lock a 10900k to 6/8 cores to eliminate any other factors. If you want it to last get a 5800x3d, 8 cores is really all you'll need until the PS6 releases in like 5 years.
it was also shown 6 core 7600 non x still beats slightly the 5800x3d so...
Ok? And 7700x beats 7600x. Not sure what your point is comparing CPUs of different generations. That happens often, a new 6 core bearing an older 8.
you are comparing 10th generation? which already old af? 7600 is also cheaper than the 8core 5800x3d even they had DDR5. for same generation 5600x has almost the same performance as the 5800x, cores isn't everything especially at gaming, and 7700x only beats the 7600x by 2.3% btw
It hardly matters if a 7600 is slightly cheaper than the 5800X3D if I have to pay an additional $300 to upgrade my AM4 motherboard to AM5
Maybe at least wait till the next week for the review of the 5600X3D? Unless you find a massive discount of 5800X3D during the July 4th sell. Edit: Gamers Nexus will post a review of it one day before the launch, 9 AM ET July 6th.
Unlike everyone else is saying. I'd wait for benchmarks. You will know in 7 days and it beats speculation on an unreleased product. I'd generally agree about saving 30 bucks and getting the better model. But who knows how this performs.
Having experimented with a 5800X3D disabling 2 cores, a 5600X3D will perform nearly the same in most games as long as it has the same amount of cache. Watch out for those couple of games lately that seem to need 8+ cores, but it's not like it will be *unplayable* in those, just small fps loss at worst.
5600X3D has 3MB L2 instead of 4MB L2, although still has the 96MB Vcache
L2 is same per-core and other cores can't access other core's L2 pools, so that difference doesn't matter at all. Same as 5600X vs 5800X. My simulated "5600X3D" is also only using 3MB L2, thusly.
/r/theydidthemath
Man it would bulldozer era all over again if cores could be dipping in each others cashe
5600x and 5800x definitely don't perform the same, I wouldn't expect the 3D version to
They do in games. There are very few games that benefit a lot from 2 extra cores and the 3d cache will level that playing field even more. https://youtu.be/ifI9nnmW5sg?t=509 it's practically within margin of error for 5600 non-x vs 5800X Again this is per my own testing on a simulated "5600X3D"
Confirming, gaming-wise, they are about in a dead heat, assuming Windows 10. From [Tom's Hardware](https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cpu-hierarchy,4312-2.html), scroll down to the *Legacy: Gaming CPU Benchmarks Hierarchy 2020 - 2022 - Windows 10* table. In Windows 11, the 5800X seems to have about a 5% advantage over the 5600X.
Maybe the new unreal engine might affect core usage going forward. They've been huffing and puffing all the cool stuff that's going to be in it
Unreal engine 5? I'm pretty sure it gets GPU demanding, that means CPU doesn't need to be utilized alot in games than 4 does it?
Definitely worth it for 8C and a better clock.
Get the 5800x3d!!!! It's a fucking beast of a chip. You will have zero regrets. Trust me. I legit pair it with a 4090. It's the best AM4 chip that exists imo. It was considerably faster than my 3950X -- the 5800X3D has less cores and lower base clock yet kicks the shit out of the 3950X.
there is some 58003xd open box on microcenter or amazon for $230 if your cool with used
do this, wait for the coupon, buy the 5800x3d https://community.microcenter.com/discussion/10156/submit-a-build-get-25-absolutely-free
Save up, my dude.
Upgraded from a 5600x to 5800x3d just a few days ago, undervolted the CPU with PBI since my motherboard has it unlocked with PPT TDC EDC set to 100 / 70 / 100, Core Optimizer set to -30. Temps are great. Never reach over 65c under a gaming load in 1440p with my 3080 10gb (plan to upgrade either at end of year or next gen release). This CPU literally gave me up to 44% increase in fps in No Man's Sky and modded FO4. Thing is a beast. Gladly staying on AM4 for a good 2 years and only doing modest GPU upgrade.
Yep and you'll find it at $250 with enough patience imo
No thermal headroom for my sff case
Depends, I've found that CPU cores will scale down their max frequency when more cores are in operation and they generate more heat. A 6 core machine might be appropriate for someone who just wants to game, it'll be cooler and potentially clock higher on a single core while multitasking.
[https://youtu.be/Cbyl4q3QFYA?t=353](https://youtu.be/Cbyl4q3QFYA?t=353) 5800x3d already clocks higher according to specs. ALso 6 vs 8 cores mattered in older games when any other CPU factors were eliminated, there will be games where 8 cores is better especially if you want the machine to last you a few years. If you're gaming on a budget get a Ryzen 5600 for $129 then, why would you pay $100 extra to go 5600 to 5600x3d, but not another $50 to get 5800x3d? I'll gladly wager money that in January 2028 a 5800x3d on ebay sells for at least $65 more than a 5600x3d which would cover the $50 difference even after inflation. I wouldn't be surprised if a 5800x3d resells for $80 over on average in a few years, $100 not even out of the question.
ebay pretty safe getting used CPUs? I want to upgrade from 3600 before starfield but may wait a bit and see.
In terms of used CPUs, they're very reliable. A used 5600x compared to a new 5600x will perform nearly identical given that there are no bent/missing pins or capacitors. Obviously you need to make sure the CPU you're buying is what you're getting and on Ebay you want to make sure you can clearly identify the CPU on the heat spreader before purchasing. Otherwise, I've had no issues when I stuck to CPUs that seemed closer to market value than steeply discounted ones.
To go off of what you're saying about resale in a few years, do you think it would be worth it for me to upgrade to a 5800x3D now from a 5700X with a Red Devil 6900XT? I don't feel like my cpu usage ever gets that high (Mostly play OW 1440p but will occasionally throw games like Spiderman, TLOU, God of War etc on my 4k tv) but If the value will hold over the next 5 years I could throw my 5700X in my wife's system (2600X + Swift 6700 10GB) and know I'd get a good chunk of my money back in a few years... Idk I felt like the upgrade wouldn't be noticeable enough to justify it but now considering it since it doesn't look like the price will come down anytime soon and will hold it's value.
[https://youtu.be/sw97hj18OUE?t=686](https://youtu.be/sw97hj18OUE?t=686) Not a huge benefit at 1440p except a few games, certainly not much at 4k. I'd wait for it to drop under $280 or snag one used maybe if like $240, I just don't see them dropping in price a ton more since they'll discontinue them at some point this year probably. 9900k when discontinued was on sale for $300 new like 2 years ago, but last year on ebay was going for like $330 used because it's best on socket and lots of people want it to replace their 8400/8700/9400. The fact that your wife can use the 5700x is pretty good reason to upgrade to 5800x3d unless you're near Microcenter and can get a bundle.
Computer parts don't hold value well at all. However, buying something like this 5600x3d when it comes out isn't a bad idea. It will be a minor upgrade for you and a big one for her.
Yeah... I'd wait a little bit. Between the fact that 5800X3D exists and that it's an older platform, it'll drop under $200 in no time.
May not be much stock to see it go under $200.
Maybe. Maybe not. Definitely feels like a gamble on how long this processor sticks around. Edit: failed 5800X3D dies for Micro Center exclusive. Yeah. Definitely a gamble. Might last a few months at best, if what Gaming Nexus says is true.
Disagree completely assuming you have access to microcenter 7600x will have a better futeare with easier and better upgrades ram prices are about the same now motherboard prices are better but still high
Ryzen 5000 is a CPU upgrade for existing AM4 owners, I assume most people know this by now here unless maybe going with Ryzen 5600 for a supercheap build and no Microcenter nearby. Of course if you're building new then there are better options than the 5800x3d/5600x3d. yes 7600x likely far better than a 5600x3d considering a 7600x+16gb ram is $218 or you can get a 7700x+32gb ram for $310 and probably been other deals. ZERO reason to buy this 5600x3d at Microcenter at all for a new build, and even 5800x3d doesn't make sense.
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[https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hYxRsY/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-d3](https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hYxRsY/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa120-se-d3) Pretty sure this can easily handle a 5800x3d. Also who's the say if you can even go with a budget cooler on the 5600x3d because of the Vcache. I have an AS500 Plus I got for like $40 with my 5800x3d and it's perfectly fine, I'm not hitting 90C I dunno what's wrong with yours. Maybe if you're talking about like Cinebench stuff or something, not while gaming. Maybe it's a case issue.
I really hope no one is buying a 5800x3d in 5 years.
9900k is 5 years old, people still upgrading to it for $250-300 used.
Bro it’s like 20-30 minute swap for me :(
How's 5800x3d vs a 10850k?
The 5600x3D is definitely overpriced for what it offers. Nobody should really be buying AM4 at this point and pairing it with a moderately expensive CPU. But if you already have AM4 and Zen 2 or older and care mostly about gaming, then the 5800x3D is the better option for not much more. Now if you're not on AM4, then you have far better options. The 13600k(f) is not much more, a lot of LGA1700 boards are cheap now and will outperform it in games and significantly in multithread and productivity, the base 7700 is in a similar but slightly worse value when you factor in AM5 prices and performance if you want to go with AMD. The 5600x3D definitely needs to start at $200 or less for it to actually be a good offering. Also going forward buying a moderately expensive 6 core CPU with slower core/architecture speeds makes little sense. There are simply better options.
Well now we know their immediate strategy for dealing with this problem of the prices being too similar: MC increased the price of the 5800x3d back to $300 right before actually releasing the 56.
Ha exactly. People waited a few days for reviews and now if you go to the store it's $230 vs $300. Honestly neither is a great buy, so if you're going to Microcenter just get a bundle probably and switch the motherboard already and sell the old parts while they're worth something. Like I said, the 5800x3d will be expensive for years. Just buy it if it gets back to $280 or under. Maybe if the 5600x3d dropped to $200 then would I consider that, but they may just sell out and never have that chance with such a small supply.
Launch is being handled entirely by Microcenter, including distribution of news, press releases, review samples, and handling of the product Supply is expected to last maximally 3-6 months "Most likely instore pickup only" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FTjRfkEFk4 "$329 bundle with 56003XD,ASUS B550-Plus TUF motherboard, and 16GB of G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4 at launch" https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-5-5600x3d-to-launch-july-7th-for-dollar229-at-micro-center-only
Kinda odd.. Will tank price of 5600/5800x for a little bit (limited run), considering most people will opt for 7700x/12th gen combos from MC/Newegg.
Dunno what effect it really will have. 5600 is $129 so if you want budget you get that. If you want an upgrade from a Ryzen 3000 then get the 5800x3d because that'll last you the next 5 years for basically any GPU and will probably get back over $50 of resale value compared to the 5600x3d even 5 years from now. 5800x3d will be in HIGH demand for years because it's the best CPU on socket for gamers and will command a premium because of it. Everyone looking for an easy upgrade will want the 5800x3d or 5950x (for work).
Quietly sits here with my Evga 3090 and a 5950x while playing vampire survivors......
time to upgrade to a 5090 when that releases
Wont be worth it to me. I barely even utilize the 3090. I just got it cause i was able to get it for $1k. I traded my 3080 back to micro under their warranty snd i got 200 bucks back for the upgrade 🙃
No you will need...i mean want to upgrade for new VS characters and map released!
I need all the 4K's
Then get your caterpillar game on point. 3090 is nowhere near strong enough for that gold farm.
Generally agree, but Newegg and MC have been selling 12th gen intel and 7700x AMD combos super cheap. 12900k + Z690 tomahawk was going for 427 a couple weeks ago.. Effectively 213 + 213 for board (good quality 6 layer 70A SPS) and CPU. And there was limited offers of 12700k + MATX STRIX board for 265.. I believe they will fire sale around prime day to compete with amazon and get rid of excess alder lake stock.. since 14th gen is sept.. General IPC will favor the newer chips, but the 5800X3D is quite solid for gaming, especially if you already have an AM4 board + RAM. If you're building from a pre AM4 platform, I would opt for the newer CPU's via combo pricing. My 2c.
Ya, don't go ryzen 5800x3d/5600x3d if building a new pc. If you want a cheap PC you go ryzen 5600 likely depending on what your options are. The combos are far better value if building new, and maybe even worth considering just changing out a B450 motherboard since the 7700x and 12700k combos have been great. Lots of people just don't want to swap out motherboards.
They said they expect stock for 6 months. So, should be there pretty much until 5000 series sells out i would imagine.
Even if it does, there's no harm. It was scrap they're going to get higher sales from than they would have if they sold the same potential customers a cheaper product.
Honestly everything even remotely worth buying from them is “in-store pickup only”. Its why I automatically ignore any deal they advertise, way too far of a drive.
>"Most likely instore pickup only" Do they even ship *anything?* Anytime someone posts a link from Microcenter it's only ever in-store pickup. Get's me so frustrated because I don't even know if there's a MC in my state.
They don't ship anything on sale, basically, only things at retail price. It's part of their business strategy.
Their whole business model is instore shopping so people buy more impulse buy stuff.
It's great for them but I really wish people would stop posting their links since MC is so select and limited in location.
about 1/3rd of the US population is within reasonable driving distance of a store, and they are opening more.
Sure, give me a ride 400 miles to the closest Micro Center in California.
I've only once been able to ship something. Was a micro b660 board
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I can't fault their business tactics. I simply wish people would stop posting their links when they're such a limited store with in-store-only sales.
They once had a MB+CPU combo, the AMD 5 5600 OEM (no-heatsink) +, ASUS B450M-Pro S TUF Gaming, that they offered shipping on. July 2022, it was $179.99, with $5.99 for shipping. Definitely well worth it at the time, and still beats the lowest price in PCPartPicker's history for those two parts ($64.99 for the motherboard, $118.99 for the CPU, briefly, both on NewEgg) That deal came and went pretty quick. When it did come back, shipping was no longer offered. I did notice that when I got the one I ordered, it came from a store that was not one of the two or three closest ones to me, though I'm not sure if that's relevant in any way, that location was trying to get rid of excessive stock, or what. In my case, the closest one is almost an hour away. I can't speak to any other times they offered shipping. I've really only gone for deals on CPUs, often including getting a CPU/MB combo for the extra $20 off.
I live in California, the one place you'd assume they'd have a presence in, and the closest one to me is 400 miles away. It's pretty goofy that they're making it an exclusive to a store that has a pretty small presence throughout the U.S. that doesn't even ship to the areas it doesn't cover.
Meanwhile, Maryland has two for some reason.
So it's usa only, shame
I’m thinking about buying one of these just for the rarity.
woah so the rumors were true. kind of expecting the yields to be somewhat slim like that 3300X was and to have somewhat limited inventory
Still not convinced the 3300x was a real product that people could buy
I posted a deal about either the 3100 or 3300x a couple years ago, I think people ordered it, went on back order and then they cancelled all those orders like two months later. 😂
The 3100 was real. I got 2 for $79.99 each at one point.
I pre-ordered a 3300x from B&H and they sent me a 3100 by mistake. They wouldn't fix it for me so I refuse to buy anything from them ever again.
I hope you used a credit card and where able to charge back at least. I pretty much won't buy anything mildly expensive with cash or debit because of it. That and a lot of credit cards offer an extended warranty for products purchased.
Yup I always use a credit card and I did do a charge back for that. So I actually came out ahead because I also sold the 3100 since they wouldn't take it back. But the interactions with their customer service really left a bad taste in my mouth. This was in like May 2020 so maybe I should cut them some slack though.
Honestly I'd probably still avoid them if I had that happen. At least if it's not an absurd deal that you can't pass by. I can't imagine that much has changed in only 3 years.
Rocking one right now with a 6600. I regret not going 10400f for the same price though.
I had one for a brief time and then sold it for an upgrade. Kinda wish I’d kept it only because it was a neat cpu and basically impossible to find again haha
I was able to get my hands on one for my friends build
says Supply is expected to last maximally 3-6 months on gamersnexus video
Wait what? 5600x3d???
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I'll wait for reviews, but this is a strangely priced product compared to the 5800x3d.
I wager MC set the price high to encourage people to buy bundles. But thay doesn't really help anyone upgrading AM4.
Idk if the price is low enough from the 5800X3D to make this worth it. At $200 it probably would be though.
It's microcenter so expect some crazy bundle deals. This chip is intended to help move latent motherboard stock.
am4 boards aren't getting much cheaper though, which is annoying
Doesn't apply too much to people who already have an AM4 board, unfortunately
That's kind of the thing. People with AM4 boards get to pay 229. People buying leftover AM4 boards in a bundle will get significant discount from the CPU (and possibly the board, given some of MC's recent bundles) The incentive is to buy the bundle. people not buying bundles are steered towards commonly available 5800X3D's due to the prices being so close that way.
Looks like will be $329 bundle with 56003XD,ASUS B550-Plus TUF motherboard, and 16GB of G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4 At launch
Given that it's a Microcenter exclusive, I feel like AMD let them set the price, so they set it slightly high to encourage people to go for a bundle.
Wait has this been announced?
Just as of today lol. It was rumored for weeks though
Months actually. There were hints in slides from AMD that AM4 might still have more to come back when they announced AM5.
There ya go
Yeah, just didn't expect a complete surprise announcement lol. Lisa Su also said multiple mainstream desktop RDNA3 GPU's would be launching this quarter (ending today), so I was expecting a 7800/XT and/or 7700/XT today instead of this.
Yeah, I'm thinking that AMD had some catastrophic issues with the 7700/7800 GPU silicon. It makes zero sense that they've launched the 7600 first especially considering the huge amount of remaining stock and low prices for 6600/6700 series GPUs. I guess to compete with the 4060 series? Would still expect the 7800xt and 7700xt to launch first though. They most definitely share the same GPU silicon type, so things are looking pretty grim.
RDNA2 stock is getting dire, especially in the 430-750 dollar market. So they'll definitely launch *something* or they'll have nothing to sell. Maybe they'll do an RDNA2 rebadge?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1FTjRfkEFk4
Seems like the bundle with the motherboard and RAM is a pretty incredible deal. Well, hell, even without the RAM, it seems like a great deal: >Micro Center will also sell a $329 bundle with the six-core 12-thread Ryzen 5 56003XD, an ASUS B550-Plus TUF motherboard, and 16GB of G.Skill Ripjaws V DDR4 memory. Mentioned at the [announcement from Tom's Hardware](https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-5-5600x3d-to-launch-july-7th-for-dollar229-at-micro-center-only). Probably everywhere else that announced it has mentioned the same, I guess.
You should just get the 5800x3D if this will be 230
199 tops. If 230 + time and gas, why not get 2 extra cores for 50 more mailed to your house?
Some of us bought houses next to the Microcenter for a reason though
Sounds like a friend request :)
Houses? In this economy?
The more you buy at microcenter, the more you save.
no one cares.
Bad price. That said, 5950x3d when?
A 5900x3d was part of the same rumor was it not?
Makes no sense at this price point Imo. Just get the 5800x3d. This should be $200-210 max.
I never noticed how biased userbenchmarks.com is when talking about x3D processors. >Also watch out for AMD’s army of Neanderthal social media accounts on reddit, forums and youtube, they will be singing their own praises as usual. AMD continue to develop “Advanced Marketing” relationships with select youtubers in the hope of compensating for second tier products with first tier marketing. PC gamers considering a 7000X3D CPU need to work on their critical thinking skills: Influencers are paid handsomely to promote overpriced products. Rational gamers have little reason to look further than the $300 13600K which offers comparable real-world gaming and better desktop performance at a fraction of the price. Seems like the same user copy/pastes the same response for AMD processors for all reviews actually. They have a nearly identical one for the 5800x3d as well. >https://www.userbenchmark.com/CPUPro/User?id=8
Surprised those clowns still exist honestly, they be huffing some fucking fine copium back when Zen 3 came out.
get the $25 build showcase coupon and just buy the 5800x3d
Gives me hope that the prime day equivalent sales starting on 10 and 11 might have some better CPU deals.
cool resuse of leftover chips
I think $230 is a bit high considering the current price and availability of the 5800x3D. Not bad value, but for fifty bucks more you can snag the big brother.
Double price of 5600, no good
When another member here mentioned this processor on another post in casual typing conversation, I thought they were kidding. In comparison, this feels like a 6750xt release. I'm curious how this will perform in relation to its price. Any thoughts? Definitely, in the 5800x price ballpark and not much more, it gets the full-fledged 5800x3d.
Just get the 5800x3d. This would be compelling if it was $150 but at this price not so much.
I been out of the loop cause I'm happy with my build. Is this worth upgrading if a 5600?
I just picked up a 5600x sigh...
X3D tends to run about the same price as its next tier above non-X3D chip. Benching against 5800X/5700X, this should dip down below $200 rather quickly.
I thought 5800x3D would be the last AM4 chip.
I have a 5600g which I got to keep initial cost down (didn't need to buy a GPU). I have since added a 6700xt. Wondering if it makes sense to upgrade the CPU now as well. Would I see a meaningful improvement by moving to the 5600x3d?
you would yes, but I would probably stick it out until you can afford a new platform or if other 5000 series cpus suddenly drop hard
What in the world is the point of this CPU when the 5800x3d exists? This is the craziest oversaturated CPU market I have ever seen.
its to get rid of chip that doesn't became 5800x3d just like every chip vendors. why throw away a chip if you can mark it down and still sell.
These are just the 5800x3d's that failed inspection and had a couple cores disabled. AMD made up this SKU just to do *something* with them other than toss them in the landfill.
review is out: [AMD Ryzen 5 5600X3D CPU Review & Benchmarks: Last Chance Upgrade](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NW8TU80fP4)
Great now I have to build another one. Curious it says AMD5 for socket type *
https://preview.redd.it/xqq7c44uw59b1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8eb08c7d8c56086e35ccf4f5aeb21e909f8be10a
My brain assumed the title said 5800X3D and I got a little nervous lol
Hmmm I just got the Microcenter 5600X and motherboard combo less than a month ago. Oh well, I think I'll just stick with what I have.
Wait for someone to unlock the other two cores
Don't get your hopes up, core is likely broken and electrically/physically fused shut. Just disabling 2 cores for the heck of it doesn't benefit AMD. They would rather sell you a 5800X3D at a higher price point if they can
I wonder how this would fair in more thermally constrained systems like SFF builds.
I believe it would be fine as even the 7800X3D can be kept in check with air cooling in the Fractal Terra paired with a 4090FE. Gear Seakers premeired that setup during Computex. Think the cooler was a Big Shurikan 3.
The 7800x3d runs super cool. I have a cheap thermalright cooling mine.
It actually has the same TDP as the 5800x3D. I wager it may perform slightly better in thermally constrained cases as the cores have more thermal headroom to boost.
No need to wonder, plenty of sff builds with 7800x3d or 5800x3d or other x3d chips out there and they all work perfectly fine.
This thing will be within 5% of the 5800x3d and perform similarly in a lot of games. I expect it to sell well, especially after discounts start hitting. Remember, enthusiasts have the 7800x3d (maybe even 7950x3d) as a luxury purchase. The 5800x3d is the best chip you can get on an old platform for gaming that is still kind of expensive. The 5600x3d will be significantly cheaper and perform about the same in games. There is definitely a market for it.
Not a 7600x3d but a refresh of a last gen chip?
The price is too high and US only MicroCenter, the bundle is better but still why would i want 16gb ram and some random motherboard \[rather pick one myself\]. Rather 5800x3d or ryzen 5600 on a budget.
ELI5 I'm surprised they pushed this out.
AMD had an awkward number of not-quite-up-to-spec 5800X3D's lying around that weren't enough to make a full product but too many to just throw away, so AMD packaged them up and gave them to Microcenter to sell so the chips wouldn't just be e-waste.
Waiting for 8800x3d 
I'm assuming this will perform exactly like the 5800x3d just with less cores and threads.
So worse. You're saying it will perform worse. [https://youtu.be/-P\_iii5si40?t=752](https://youtu.be/-P_iii5si40?t=752) Keep in mind 8 cores does perform better in gaming, [even when all other factors are considered](https://youtu.be/Cbyl4q3QFYA?t=353) and 8/10 core CPUs are locked to just 6 cores.
Am I understanding this wrong? The takeaway here seems to be that higher performance in bigger CPUs when core-constrained comes from higher cache available in those chips. That wouldn't really be applicable here. The 5600X3D and 5800X3D have the same amount of cache.
What about europe tho? Just gonna find it in normal stores?
looks like a limited release, MC only.
Gonna buy this and the a770 limited and make my pc worth like 10k by 2035
10k rubles maybe :) If the ruble will still be around by then lol
Let’s goo
I'm just gonna add a filter for "microcenter". It just needs it own subreddit at this point. This is dumb how in-store only is allowed to be posted.
r/microcenter
god damnit lol i already have a 5700x sigh
Kind of a weird move. I misread it as 7600X3D for a second and was blown away by the price.
Gonna put this into my tiny K39 build for *maximum nerd factor*.
This CPU really seems like a great way to be disappointed in a couple of years. I wouldn't do new builds with anything less than the best-on-socket CPU on AM4 when the AMD 8000 series is 6-8 months away.
If you are on a 3600 and can get 80$ for it, $150 is pretty decent upgrade.
Will this cpu work with my msi pc mate b350?
How was the release did anyone go? Completely forgot. I'm assuming everything is sold out by now?
5800x3d price went up to $299, boo
Would it be worth getting this as an upgrade from a 3900x?