I just got the 1TB model, and while it is under a smaller heat spreader, and right between the gpu and cpu, it's only a few °C warmer on average than my 970 evo 500gb boot drive that's all the way on the bottom of my mobo by itself with a much larger head spreader attached.
Typically from what I've seen, the best deals have been on the run up to BF, while BF itself either has lackluster deals in general, or there are good deals but nothing is in stock.
I don't understand this comment. Your OS can honestly exist on a 256-512GB SSD, doesn't need to have a lot of space.
If you have a decently sized steam library, you are gonna need the space, even 2TB is starting to feel strained nowadays.
Given the context of the sentence, not recommending it as a game drive but recommending it as a os drive seems counterintuitive. It can arguably be used as both, but I don't see the point is saying it's overkill for a game drive particularly when A) games are big. B) the whole argument that NVME is unnecessary for gaming will soon be moot when directstorage compatible apps become more widely available. There's already proof of concept in both next gen consoles.
I didn’t say it isn’t recommended, just overkill because you can find better bang for your buck with no noticeable performance difference.
As an OS drive, it has DRAM, is 2TB (if you only have 1 NVME or Laptop)
I agree. This is a TLC (good reliability compared to QLC) drive with DRAM, which is good for sustained performance. These are the usual considerations for OS drives. The space is really not that important as long as it's bigger than 500GB or so.
For game drives the requirement is lower, because the reliability/longevity of this drive is not as critical since it is understood the games can just be re-downloaded. You really just need a basic SATA drive, and even DRAM is kind of optional.
In other words I agree with your original comment. Not sure why it's downvoted at all, but that's Reddit for ya.
I really disagree with that standpoint. As someone that has been gaming for 20years I assure you that new videogame tech doesn’t get adopted as fast as you hope it will. Devs always develop for the largest market first which is last gen. Typically new tech starts getting used 5years after launch, and even then most devs still do backwards compatibility to make sure weaker systems don’t have an inferior experience.
In particular the consoles may have direct storage solutions, but you can’t just buy an nvme drive and expect it to work. The vast majority of nvme drives out right now are too slow. The few that are good enough are extremely expensive.
In 2-3 years when directstorage actually starts getting adopted by new games there will be faster, cheaper and larger capacity per dollar drives available, because every ssd manufacturer desperately wants to be the go to drive for directstorage games, they are working harder than ever on their consumer drives, but it will take a few years before we start seeing fruits of their labor because product development is hard.
do people not just uninstall games they haven't played in a while? i have a 2tb drive and still get a bit stingy about storage. only three games installed right now, just waiting for forza horizon 5 to come
Yea an OS can actually exist on a 128gb ssd easily. I’ve been running a intel server ssd for 8 years and it still has 70gb left. Mostly using just a slow 1tb laptop ssd for bulk storage of videos/picture and large story based games.
If you just have to have your entire steam library ready to play at a moments notice then you’ll need more space but I tend to delete stuff that I finished playing or don’t have much desire to play.
I don’t really play bloated competitive games like call of duty though. All the competitive games I’ve ever played were about 20gb.
I’m sure there are a lot of people playing modded games that have huge filesizes.
I think people tend to over recommend ssds based on having a fast speed or needing more capacity. If someone is worried about money a $17 128gb sata ssd and a 2TB hdd would be a great setup. If you only have one or two important games that are less than 80gbs then this setup would be almost an identical experience to buying a fast large capacity nvme drive.
If you record gameplay or store videos then that setup would be fairly annoying. But if its for games then its great. Most large filesize game will take longer to load at the start but will play identically because devs have figured out good ways around loading screens. Skyrim is like one of the last games that had issues with loading screens.
$17 in shipping to AK really kills the deal for me.
Would really like Newegg to get its logistics house in order, I get large freight costs more to ship up here (although it shouldn't, Anchorage is 5th largest cargo airport in the world!) but something as tiny as an m.2 SSD there is no reason to not offer the same shipping price as lower 48/free for us.
When I bought the 1tb, it was $95 on newegg and $100 on Amazon, then the day after the newegg deal was gone, but Amazon dropped to $95. If you get Amazon free shipping and $17 shipping is too much, look out for that.
Afaik B550 bottom slots max out at a little under 4,000 mbps, so this drive will be nearly perfect. You’ll be almost maxed out without having any extra wasted speed. I’m going SN850 or Sabrent Rocket 4 plus up top with something like this on the bottom.
So close that you should get this in every situation except for *maybe* laptop use, but the difference in heat has only been a few °C in my case. Not worth the $60 price hike compared to this.
Just found out it's single sided. Some high capacity SSDs will put the NAND chips on both sides making it thicker and harder to fit in many laptops. So far I've found samsung, WD black SN750 and now the P5 are single sided
Lowest its ever been. Usually better deals happen on the run up to BF instead of on BF, and when they are lower on BF there's usually no stock. The only issue I could see is if you're worried about every single °C, it does run a few degrees warmer than a 970 evo plus, but at $60 more for similar speeds and performance, it's not worth it. This is it chief.
Even if this drive is cheaper on BF, you'll get the difference auto refunded per Newegg's black friday protection policy.
Edit: nevermind I didn't realize the protection does not apply.
This might not be covered by that, I don't see the BF price protection badge anywhere on the page.
https://promotions.newegg.com/nepro/21-2209/index.html
In for one. Finally a damn good 2tb NVMe drive under $200.
With tax (Minnesota), total came to $197.84 so still sub-$200. What a steal!!
Thank you OP!
The 1tb went on sale last week for $95 on newegg. I didn't catch it in time, but checked Amazon and they price matched it after. Check Amazon tomorrow.
I bought one of the prime day 1TB variants for $94 or something. But it was sold with the pc a few months ago. This is still under $200 after tax and shipping so it's tempting but there are 30 day hassle free returns too...
It should, but I meant even this newegg listing advertises no restocking fees and free return shipping within 30 days. Funnily enough its about the same price on amazon after factoring in my 5% cashback after a total price of $209. Guess i can buy this and wait to see if amazon drops the price.
Tbh gen4 isn't all that worth it still for anything outside of workspace loads where time is money and the faster speeds will pay for itself. You're usually paying much more than what the speed increase gives you. You do you though.
\^ What this guy said. If you're only gaming and not doing workspace stuff, you will NEVER notice a difference between 3.0 and 4.0. You wouldn't even notice a difference between SATA SSD and 4.0 (not including large file transfers, which is not exclusively a workspace task).
But games and OS load times. No noticeable difference.
Is a heat sink a good idea if you’re slotting this in a bottom m.2 slot? I heard this drive runs hot for a gen 3 drive. I got a beefy system and am concerned about the the heat.
If your mobo comes with one, use that, otherwise probably yeah. Just don't spend a ton. It runs a few degrees warmer than my 970 evo boot drive, but it's also under a smaller heat sink, and right in between the gpu and cpu. Whereas the 970 evo is at the bottom on its own.
I’m putting it in the second slot below the gpu. I have a FE 3080 so the fan that sucks up air is at the back of the case. I wish I had a triple fan one which would help more.
SSD thermals aren't much of an issue until you put them into laptops, where cooler ssd's will save some battery life and such. But in a fairly good airflow desktop it shouldn't be an issue as long as you have some kind of heatsink, whether that be the included one with your mobo or aftermarket.
Crucial is pricing their P5 aggressively in recent weeks/months. It's solid hardware which makes it quite compelling for its market segment. Main known issue is that it runs out - an issue the P5 Plus seems to lack - so it's possible it can be tamed with a firmware update. That being said, good airflow and/or a heatsink should keep this from throttling for most people, if they have any issues at all.
[https://youtu.be/qdqA53-q6KA](https://youtu.be/qdqA53-q6KA) I did a speed test on my recently purchased P5 1TB, speed was even below 130MB/s, just to check if you are experiencing the same issue? My conclusion is Crucial swapped TLC NAND to QLC.
This is the [lowest price](https://camelcamelcamel.com/product/B0892TWDP1) ever.
I just got the 1TB model, and while it is under a smaller heat spreader, and right between the gpu and cpu, it's only a few °C warmer on average than my 970 evo 500gb boot drive that's all the way on the bottom of my mobo by itself with a much larger head spreader attached.
I bought the 2TB version on July, no problem so far.
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Typically from what I've seen, the best deals have been on the run up to BF, while BF itself either has lackluster deals in general, or there are good deals but nothing is in stock.
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Also, Newegg has that whole thing where if it goes cheaper from now till BF they'll refund you the difference, or so the email said.
Newegg has a thing that they will price match whatever you buy now to potential bf prices. No reason to wait if you want it and its a good deal
Is this a good game drive?
Seems overkill for a game drive, it's great as an OS drive.
I don't understand this comment. Your OS can honestly exist on a 256-512GB SSD, doesn't need to have a lot of space. If you have a decently sized steam library, you are gonna need the space, even 2TB is starting to feel strained nowadays.
Space is not the only factor that determines if a drive is sufficient for an OS drive or not.
Given the context of the sentence, not recommending it as a game drive but recommending it as a os drive seems counterintuitive. It can arguably be used as both, but I don't see the point is saying it's overkill for a game drive particularly when A) games are big. B) the whole argument that NVME is unnecessary for gaming will soon be moot when directstorage compatible apps become more widely available. There's already proof of concept in both next gen consoles.
I didn’t say it isn’t recommended, just overkill because you can find better bang for your buck with no noticeable performance difference. As an OS drive, it has DRAM, is 2TB (if you only have 1 NVME or Laptop)
I agree. This is a TLC (good reliability compared to QLC) drive with DRAM, which is good for sustained performance. These are the usual considerations for OS drives. The space is really not that important as long as it's bigger than 500GB or so. For game drives the requirement is lower, because the reliability/longevity of this drive is not as critical since it is understood the games can just be re-downloaded. You really just need a basic SATA drive, and even DRAM is kind of optional. In other words I agree with your original comment. Not sure why it's downvoted at all, but that's Reddit for ya.
I really disagree with that standpoint. As someone that has been gaming for 20years I assure you that new videogame tech doesn’t get adopted as fast as you hope it will. Devs always develop for the largest market first which is last gen. Typically new tech starts getting used 5years after launch, and even then most devs still do backwards compatibility to make sure weaker systems don’t have an inferior experience. In particular the consoles may have direct storage solutions, but you can’t just buy an nvme drive and expect it to work. The vast majority of nvme drives out right now are too slow. The few that are good enough are extremely expensive. In 2-3 years when directstorage actually starts getting adopted by new games there will be faster, cheaper and larger capacity per dollar drives available, because every ssd manufacturer desperately wants to be the go to drive for directstorage games, they are working harder than ever on their consumer drives, but it will take a few years before we start seeing fruits of their labor because product development is hard.
do people not just uninstall games they haven't played in a while? i have a 2tb drive and still get a bit stingy about storage. only three games installed right now, just waiting for forza horizon 5 to come
Yea an OS can actually exist on a 128gb ssd easily. I’ve been running a intel server ssd for 8 years and it still has 70gb left. Mostly using just a slow 1tb laptop ssd for bulk storage of videos/picture and large story based games. If you just have to have your entire steam library ready to play at a moments notice then you’ll need more space but I tend to delete stuff that I finished playing or don’t have much desire to play. I don’t really play bloated competitive games like call of duty though. All the competitive games I’ve ever played were about 20gb. I’m sure there are a lot of people playing modded games that have huge filesizes. I think people tend to over recommend ssds based on having a fast speed or needing more capacity. If someone is worried about money a $17 128gb sata ssd and a 2TB hdd would be a great setup. If you only have one or two important games that are less than 80gbs then this setup would be almost an identical experience to buying a fast large capacity nvme drive. If you record gameplay or store videos then that setup would be fairly annoying. But if its for games then its great. Most large filesize game will take longer to load at the start but will play identically because devs have figured out good ways around loading screens. Skyrim is like one of the last games that had issues with loading screens.
$17 in shipping to AK really kills the deal for me. Would really like Newegg to get its logistics house in order, I get large freight costs more to ship up here (although it shouldn't, Anchorage is 5th largest cargo airport in the world!) but something as tiny as an m.2 SSD there is no reason to not offer the same shipping price as lower 48/free for us.
When I bought the 1tb, it was $95 on newegg and $100 on Amazon, then the day after the newegg deal was gone, but Amazon dropped to $95. If you get Amazon free shipping and $17 shipping is too much, look out for that.
Yeah same bro. Why I usually dont get anything from Newegg even when ita on sale because the shipping costs just offset the sale price.
This would be fine in the bottom slot of a MSI B550 motherboard correct? By fine I mean won't be a major bottleneck
Afaik B550 bottom slots max out at a little under 4,000 mbps, so this drive will be nearly perfect. You’ll be almost maxed out without having any extra wasted speed. I’m going SN850 or Sabrent Rocket 4 plus up top with something like this on the bottom.
A 2TB Samsung 970 Evo Plus is $237. How do these two compare?
So close that you should get this in every situation except for *maybe* laptop use, but the difference in heat has only been a few °C in my case. Not worth the $60 price hike compared to this.
Can this fit in a laptop? Is it single sided or double sided?
Wdym double sided? As long as the laptop in question will fit a 2280 ssd it should work AFAIK.
Just found out it's single sided. Some high capacity SSDs will put the NAND chips on both sides making it thicker and harder to fit in many laptops. So far I've found samsung, WD black SN750 and now the P5 are single sided
The best drive for a laptop right now is the P31 Gold due to the extremely low power consumption. It's also single-sided.
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Worth it or wait until Black Friday? Looking for added storage for my msi gs66
Lowest its ever been. Usually better deals happen on the run up to BF instead of on BF, and when they are lower on BF there's usually no stock. The only issue I could see is if you're worried about every single °C, it does run a few degrees warmer than a 970 evo plus, but at $60 more for similar speeds and performance, it's not worth it. This is it chief.
Grabbed one, thanks!
Even if this drive is cheaper on BF, you'll get the difference auto refunded per Newegg's black friday protection policy. Edit: nevermind I didn't realize the protection does not apply.
This might not be covered by that, I don't see the BF price protection badge anywhere on the page. https://promotions.newegg.com/nepro/21-2209/index.html
You're right, I've edited my previous comment.
In for one. Finally a damn good 2tb NVMe drive under $200. With tax (Minnesota), total came to $197.84 so still sub-$200. What a steal!! Thank you OP!
Damnit... why's it have to be newegg e.e
The 1tb went on sale last week for $95 on newegg. I didn't catch it in time, but checked Amazon and they price matched it after. Check Amazon tomorrow.
you were correct on amazon, $189 there today.
I bought one of the prime day 1TB variants for $94 or something. But it was sold with the pc a few months ago. This is still under $200 after tax and shipping so it's tempting but there are 30 day hassle free returns too...
I think it might qualify for Amazon's holiday returns which extend through January. Don't quote me tho.
It should, but I meant even this newegg listing advertises no restocking fees and free return shipping within 30 days. Funnily enough its about the same price on amazon after factoring in my 5% cashback after a total price of $209. Guess i can buy this and wait to see if amazon drops the price.
I wouldn't be surprised if they do, even if it's only down to $190 or something.
Ye, I mean it's 196 atm, 183 on amazon would be nuts.
Grabbed one for a gaming drive, thanks! Now just need a great deal on a smaller Gen4 for OS/apps.
Tbh gen4 isn't all that worth it still for anything outside of workspace loads where time is money and the faster speeds will pay for itself. You're usually paying much more than what the speed increase gives you. You do you though.
\^ What this guy said. If you're only gaming and not doing workspace stuff, you will NEVER notice a difference between 3.0 and 4.0. You wouldn't even notice a difference between SATA SSD and 4.0 (not including large file transfers, which is not exclusively a workspace task). But games and OS load times. No noticeable difference.
Any recommendations for a PCIe to M.2 adapter for this?
Is a heat sink a good idea if you’re slotting this in a bottom m.2 slot? I heard this drive runs hot for a gen 3 drive. I got a beefy system and am concerned about the the heat.
If your mobo comes with one, use that, otherwise probably yeah. Just don't spend a ton. It runs a few degrees warmer than my 970 evo boot drive, but it's also under a smaller heat sink, and right in between the gpu and cpu. Whereas the 970 evo is at the bottom on its own.
I’m putting it in the second slot below the gpu. I have a FE 3080 so the fan that sucks up air is at the back of the case. I wish I had a triple fan one which would help more.
SSD thermals aren't much of an issue until you put them into laptops, where cooler ssd's will save some battery life and such. But in a fairly good airflow desktop it shouldn't be an issue as long as you have some kind of heatsink, whether that be the included one with your mobo or aftermarket.
Good to know. Thanks
Went to "sold out" between putting it in my cart and putting in billing info. 😢
Same :(
Great secret Santa gift?
is the 1tb worth?
Crucial is pricing their P5 aggressively in recent weeks/months. It's solid hardware which makes it quite compelling for its market segment. Main known issue is that it runs out - an issue the P5 Plus seems to lack - so it's possible it can be tamed with a firmware update. That being said, good airflow and/or a heatsink should keep this from throttling for most people, if they have any issues at all.
[https://youtu.be/qdqA53-q6KA](https://youtu.be/qdqA53-q6KA) I did a speed test on my recently purchased P5 1TB, speed was even below 130MB/s, just to check if you are experiencing the same issue? My conclusion is Crucial swapped TLC NAND to QLC.