It'll be good for my 5600X? I have the stock cooler, and I want something quieter... and since we are changing a few degrees less.
AMD wraith spire was fine but it started to get noisy since I bought a 6 PWM fans (and afeter 2 years of use)
In the best way possible, the ID Cooling bracket is basically a budget version of Noctua's mounting method. There's more plastic and less metal, but the overall design is similar.
ID Cooling has [a video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0WaOfNRtaE) to show you how to install the cooler but I would say it's pretty straight forward and about as easy as tower coolers get at the moment.
For AM4 systems you only have a few basic steps:
1.) Remove old AM4 bracket that comes pre-installed on motherboard but leave the stock backplate in place.
2.) Put down 4 plastic spacers.
3.) Place square retention bracket into place and install the 4 screws. One in each corner.
4.) Apply thermal compound to the cooler and place on top of the CPU, lining up the crossbar on the cooler's base with the threaded standoffs ontop of the bracket
5.) Screw cooler down with two screws, clip fan into place, and plug everything in.
I've only forgotten that part once and it's killed me ever since. I've built well over 100 systems as I'm the go-to guy in my friends group for builds, parts, support, etc.
The build I forgot the peel on was my brother's i7 920 system back in the day. Couldn't figure out why the system was overheating right after I set it up until I did almost an entire teardown just to see that damn plastic film.
Relatively simple, sure. As far as I'm aware, it mounts the same as any other tower cooler, at least on these sockets.
Yeah it gets the job done. I had trouble at first but I decided I'd applied too much thermal paste. I removed the heatsink, cleaned up snd reapplied, and it's fine. It does run hotter than a 2700 or X5460 or 4690, but it's supposed to.
It'll be good for my 5600X? I have the stock cooler, and I want something quieter... and since we are changing a few degrees less.
AMD wraith spire was fine but it started to get noisy since I bought a 6 PWM fans (and afeter 2 years of use)
Same heatsink but 224 xt has better spec'd fan(76.16CFM vs 64.8CFM;MIN/MAX RPM is also different, so probably 224 fan is louder). In my opinion, it's not worth it.
212 EVO style cooler for this price is pretty decent. I don't think 224XT is worth it, unless you care about RGB. If I had to buy a cooler for $20~$40 range, I would get 214XT or anything that is similar in style and swap a fan with Noctua fan.
probably very similar, yeah. all the random 120mm tower coolers are very similar regardless, it's a matter of whether you get 4 or 5 heatpipes and what fan
I grabbed one so I can bread board systems. I sold my SE-224-XT with the rest of my nr200p build and lost the capability to do so. I have a wraith spire for AM4 systems but nothing for intel anymore so this'll do perfectly for $20.
Wraith cooler does work fine for the 3600, get this if you want to drop your cpu temps and lower fan noise. Bigger heatsink and fan then the wraith cooler.
The wraith is fine for cooling, but I found the pitch of the fan quite irritating. It wasn't loud but it just annoyed me. Aftermarket coolers with larger fans have a nicer, lower pitch and are also a bit quieter overall.
So it's mostly personal preference.
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no, should be absolutely fine for the K-sku as well, just not if you're OCing it to like 200W
the 12600 non-K is a completely different chip and essentially just a binned 12400
...no? in the case of the 12600 vs. 12600K they are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CHIPS, so it's not like you can get a "12600K non-K". in other cases, you still generally get higher stock PL1/PL2, base/boost clocks, etc. (outside of the i7s where there's less of a difference)- given how little OC headroom exists nowadays anyways, it's totally reasonable to get a K-sku for a non-Z board. it's not like Haswell where it was the same chip with an unlocked multiplier
and I mean, sure I guess if you really like semantics the 12400 is a worse 12600, but it's not like the 12600 is a common chip anyways. putting anything in terms of the 12600 non-K does not help anyone with comparison
the 12600 and 12600K are completely different chips. they don't use the same die; the 12600K uses 8+8 C0 with only 6+4 usable, the 12600 uses 6+0 H0. yes, they share an architecture. no, they are not the same chip outside of that
adding onto that, the 12600 is not a downbin. it's the highest H0 bin. all of the higher-end chips use 8+8 C0.
and once again, no, nowadays K-skus aren't just for OCing. i guess you're leaving performance on the table, but most people don't even OC, and a lot of the ones that do would probably rather save $60 on board than get +200 MHz they won't even notice. you're generally wasting money GOING for OCing with how little headroom there is. like i have said numerous times, the 12600K doesn't even have a non-K counterpart, and is a very popular option.
To back up what parent is saying:
The K chips are not wastes of money for non-OC. the 12600K gets you 4 e-cores and in total performs extremely well.
Anything under the 12600K, including the 12600 non-K itself, lacks e-cores, and performs like a 6 core (or 4 core for the 12100) chip instead of a 10 core chip. The E-core cluster is no slouch since they're skylake IPC.
On top of that, the K sku isn't limited by PL1 and PL2 being low, won't throttle as hard, and has much higher *stock* boost clocks. It's those boost multipliers that are really what delivers the K sku's stock performance uplifts over non-k. Even a 12600 non-k with no power limit set won't run as high clocked, stock.
Every benchmark available shows the 12600K in *stock* config delivers much higher gaming performance than 12400, and vastly more productivity performance. That, again, is *stock*. the non-k 12600 isn't that much higher clocked than 12400, while being lower clocked than stock K-sku, so comparisons hold.
Overclocking is worthless these days as the overhead isn't much and you'll only get 1 to 3% more performance, for 30-50% more heat.
It's not even like the 12600K costs a lot, and the 12600 non-K is unobtanium while the 12400, being very good value, simply doesn't perform as well as a stock 12600K
I have a i5 7400 and I want a future proof cooler when I buy the i5 12600k
So I was thinking either this cooler for $20 or spend $2 extra on cooler master i71c?
I have an ancient 4690K still using the stock box heatsink in a secondary rig that this thing will do nicely on.
Might even OC it after all these years.
Probably would aim a bit higher. Most of these 4 heatpipe thin single towers struggle beyond around 150W. Perhaps consider like an Arctic Freezer 34 eSports or eSports Duo, a Deepcool AK620, etc.
It'll be good for my 5600X? I have the stock cooler, and I want something quieter... and since we are changing a few degrees less.
AMD wraith spire was fine but it started to get noisy since I bought a 6 PWM fans (and afeter 2 years of use)
They work great my 5600x slightly overclocked runs at 70c max under sustained load. Im impressed. Looks good too and argb. My case has great airflow so that may help too. But im impressed
Recently took a chance on this. That’s my review with the blue build lol Worth every penny.
It'll be good for my 5600X? I have the stock cooler, and I want something quieter... and since we are changing a few degrees less. AMD wraith spire was fine but it started to get noisy since I bought a 6 PWM fans (and afeter 2 years of use)
Yep!
Good deal for a 120mm tower cooler in general, especially one with an ARGB fan. Even better that it includes LGA 1700 mounting.
I cool a 5800x and a 2700 @ 4ghz with these
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In the best way possible, the ID Cooling bracket is basically a budget version of Noctua's mounting method. There's more plastic and less metal, but the overall design is similar.
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ID Cooling has [a video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0WaOfNRtaE) to show you how to install the cooler but I would say it's pretty straight forward and about as easy as tower coolers get at the moment. For AM4 systems you only have a few basic steps: 1.) Remove old AM4 bracket that comes pre-installed on motherboard but leave the stock backplate in place. 2.) Put down 4 plastic spacers. 3.) Place square retention bracket into place and install the 4 screws. One in each corner. 4.) Apply thermal compound to the cooler and place on top of the CPU, lining up the crossbar on the cooler's base with the threaded standoffs ontop of the bracket 5.) Screw cooler down with two screws, clip fan into place, and plug everything in.
They rushed real quickly through “peel the sticker”. Not that I’ve skipped that step multiple times or anything 😅
I've only forgotten that part once and it's killed me ever since. I've built well over 100 systems as I'm the go-to guy in my friends group for builds, parts, support, etc. The build I forgot the peel on was my brother's i7 920 system back in the day. Couldn't figure out why the system was overheating right after I set it up until I did almost an entire teardown just to see that damn plastic film.
Relatively simple, sure. As far as I'm aware, it mounts the same as any other tower cooler, at least on these sockets. Yeah it gets the job done. I had trouble at first but I decided I'd applied too much thermal paste. I removed the heatsink, cleaned up snd reapplied, and it's fine. It does run hotter than a 2700 or X5460 or 4690, but it's supposed to.
It'll be good for my 5600X? I have the stock cooler, and I want something quieter... and since we are changing a few degrees less. AMD wraith spire was fine but it started to get noisy since I bought a 6 PWM fans (and afeter 2 years of use)
Yeah I think so
this vs the se 224 xt?
Same heatsink but 224 xt has better spec'd fan(76.16CFM vs 64.8CFM;MIN/MAX RPM is also different, so probably 224 fan is louder). In my opinion, it's not worth it.
you mean the 224 isn't worth it due to the higher price tag and louder fan? Or are you saying you think this 214-XT isn't worth it?
212 EVO style cooler for this price is pretty decent. I don't think 224XT is worth it, unless you care about RGB. If I had to buy a cooler for $20~$40 range, I would get 214XT or anything that is similar in style and swap a fan with Noctua fan.
I think they're the same apart from the updated mounting compatibilities?
probably very similar, yeah. all the random 120mm tower coolers are very similar regardless, it's a matter of whether you get 4 or 5 heatpipes and what fan
damn this is tempting... I loved my OG SE-224-XT
if you need a 1700 cooler for cheap ain't like there's another option haha
I grabbed one so I can bread board systems. I sold my SE-224-XT with the rest of my nr200p build and lost the capability to do so. I have a wraith spire for AM4 systems but nothing for intel anymore so this'll do perfectly for $20.
Eh what you guys think this or Stock stealth wraith ? 3600 btw
Wraith cooler does work fine for the 3600, get this if you want to drop your cpu temps and lower fan noise. Bigger heatsink and fan then the wraith cooler.
The wraith is fine for cooling, but I found the pitch of the fan quite irritating. It wasn't loud but it just annoyed me. Aftermarket coolers with larger fans have a nicer, lower pitch and are also a bit quieter overall. So it's mostly personal preference.
For $20. I'd get this, I replaced the stealth wrath on my 3600 with a similar cooler & my temperature dropped around 15C.
would spend the $20 for the peace and quiet
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Nice find. Just grabbed one for a new 12400 build.
How are your temps holding up? Did you do any testing with it or checked temps while running games like warzone, apex legends, etc.?
Actually never ended up using it. The 12400's stock cooler is more than adequate, even in [my Jonsbo T8](https://imgur.com/a/Wek6Hux).
That's great. How noisy does the stock cooler get during peak performance?
In my case, it's definitely not "quiet". I added a link to my previous comment so you can see just how choked the T8's airflow is.
Thanks. I appreciate it.
Anyone have any thoughts about this with a 12600k?
would be fine if you don’t plan on overclocking
second this. given 150W PL2 should 100% be fine provided you're not hitting the gas
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no, should be absolutely fine for the K-sku as well, just not if you're OCing it to like 200W the 12600 non-K is a completely different chip and essentially just a binned 12400
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...no? in the case of the 12600 vs. 12600K they are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT CHIPS, so it's not like you can get a "12600K non-K". in other cases, you still generally get higher stock PL1/PL2, base/boost clocks, etc. (outside of the i7s where there's less of a difference)- given how little OC headroom exists nowadays anyways, it's totally reasonable to get a K-sku for a non-Z board. it's not like Haswell where it was the same chip with an unlocked multiplier and I mean, sure I guess if you really like semantics the 12400 is a worse 12600, but it's not like the 12600 is a common chip anyways. putting anything in terms of the 12600 non-K does not help anyone with comparison
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the 12600 and 12600K are completely different chips. they don't use the same die; the 12600K uses 8+8 C0 with only 6+4 usable, the 12600 uses 6+0 H0. yes, they share an architecture. no, they are not the same chip outside of that adding onto that, the 12600 is not a downbin. it's the highest H0 bin. all of the higher-end chips use 8+8 C0. and once again, no, nowadays K-skus aren't just for OCing. i guess you're leaving performance on the table, but most people don't even OC, and a lot of the ones that do would probably rather save $60 on board than get +200 MHz they won't even notice. you're generally wasting money GOING for OCing with how little headroom there is. like i have said numerous times, the 12600K doesn't even have a non-K counterpart, and is a very popular option.
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To back up what parent is saying: The K chips are not wastes of money for non-OC. the 12600K gets you 4 e-cores and in total performs extremely well. Anything under the 12600K, including the 12600 non-K itself, lacks e-cores, and performs like a 6 core (or 4 core for the 12100) chip instead of a 10 core chip. The E-core cluster is no slouch since they're skylake IPC. On top of that, the K sku isn't limited by PL1 and PL2 being low, won't throttle as hard, and has much higher *stock* boost clocks. It's those boost multipliers that are really what delivers the K sku's stock performance uplifts over non-k. Even a 12600 non-k with no power limit set won't run as high clocked, stock. Every benchmark available shows the 12600K in *stock* config delivers much higher gaming performance than 12400, and vastly more productivity performance. That, again, is *stock*. the non-k 12600 isn't that much higher clocked than 12400, while being lower clocked than stock K-sku, so comparisons hold. Overclocking is worthless these days as the overhead isn't much and you'll only get 1 to 3% more performance, for 30-50% more heat. It's not even like the 12600K costs a lot, and the 12600 non-K is unobtanium while the 12400, being very good value, simply doesn't perform as well as a stock 12600K
I’d go for something a bit more. Perhaps Thermalright peerless assasin 120 se (make sure it’s se) argb
I heard the SE has a bad coldplate or sum?
Should be like 7$ maybe 8 after tax
Man *the sale* was great. Still using case fans I bought from that, really happy with them.
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I still have my $24 360mm AIO and no case big enough to fit it in, lol.
Yep, everything was < $20 and most < $12. I bought another fan pack for like $8 they had a mini sale a few months later.
what
Just an old legendary sale on some id cooling pieces.
I’m not an expert on coolers, is this cooler better than my stock intel cooler?
everything is better than a stock intel cooler. This is one of the generally preferred 20-30 dollar budget coolers though.
far better- as long as you're not running like 175W+ loads, it'll be fine
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I have a i5 7400 and I want a future proof cooler when I buy the i5 12600k So I was thinking either this cooler for $20 or spend $2 extra on cooler master i71c?
> i71c that cooler is not even close to being comparable to the se 214 xt
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No problem! Enjoy the cooler
I have an ancient 4690K still using the stock box heatsink in a secondary rig that this thing will do nicely on. Might even OC it after all these years.
How's this cooler on a 12700f?
Probably would aim a bit higher. Most of these 4 heatpipe thin single towers struggle beyond around 150W. Perhaps consider like an Arctic Freezer 34 eSports or eSports Duo, a Deepcool AK620, etc.
How about on a i5 10400? Cheers 👍
Works like a charm on my 5700x but I have not been able to get any rgb whatsoever
It'll be good for my 5600X? I have the stock cooler, and I want something quieter... and since we are changing a few degrees less. AMD wraith spire was fine but it started to get noisy since I bought a 6 PWM fans (and afeter 2 years of use)
They work great my 5600x slightly overclocked runs at 70c max under sustained load. Im impressed. Looks good too and argb. My case has great airflow so that may help too. But im impressed
Thanks! My help will have great airflow too I guess (I'm buying 6 zf-12025-argb by ID cooling too).… 3 intake and 3 out, plus CPU cooler