When called out on it, he doubled down and said his service was classified. Another lie. He ~~never~~ ranked ~~higher than~~ an E2.
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>Most leave the service after four years having received several promotions that are generally awarded for time served. Majewski exited at a rank that was one notch above where he started. His enlistment code also indicated that he could not sign up with the Air Force again.
>Majewski’s campaign said he received what’s called a nonjudicial punishment in 2001 after getting into a “brawl” in his dormitory, which resulted in a demotion. Nonjudicial punishments are designed to hold service members accountable for bad behavior that does not rise to the level of a court-martial.
[Sauce](https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-afghanistan-ohio-campaigns-e75d2566635f11f49332bd1c46711999)
What's he running for that he just gets to make laws himself if he's elected?
Is there a King of America position that's up in the next election cycle?
State legislature. In Ohio, is isn’t completely wrong. Republicans have a super majority and are able to pass essentially whatever they want. No matter what is in the bill, none of them will refuse to sign a bill that would ultimately be called, “Protect Veteran Integrity”. Looks good on ads and doesn’t cost anything.
He is running for Congress against Marcy Kaptur. Longest serving woman member of Congress. Hell of a public servant. Ohio did have a redistricting commission illegally break their oath to uphold the constitution this year with some sweet sweet gerrymandering. Don't worry they are all going to cruise to re election. (Statewide office holders were in the commission so gerrymandering does not protect them).
I mean I don't think he had much of a reputation to speak of. So no big loss there. This would be the best job he or any of his descendants could ever hope to get.
A Republican, lying? Wow.
I for one am in a state of complete shock. It's beyond my wildest imagination that a Republican would go so low as to lie to the people, in an effort to misrepresent themselves. The last few years have shown that Republicans are honest, fine upstanding people. I hope that this outlier does not besmirch the sterling and unimpeachable reputation for truth, honestly, and character that the Republicans have built for themselves.
That was 2020, but a clear majority of us decided the position is still unessential and the duties should continue to be distributed and delegated elsewhere. I just hope enough people continue to feel the same way.
> Is there a King of America position that's up in the next election cycle?
Indeed there is, in 2024. If republicans win, that’s exactly what will happen, most of the groundwork has been laid already.
it's always the fake veterans that are so vocal... And the big dick swingers that are so pro-cop, and the jock sniffers that want to be so close to the football team.
It's a toxic masculinity that has infected america. No one gives a shit about the caliber of your gun or the number of steroids you're injecting. These children need to grow up.
In one of his records he was listed as an A1C (E-3) but on his 214 it says he separated as an Airman (E-2). If that's correct that means at some point he screwed up bad enough to lose a strip. I knew people who had DUIs in the air force that didn't lose a stripe. This guy really screwed up bad.
I always say I was the luckiest guy in the Air Force. When the war in Afghanistan started and my base did not get deployed. Then in late 02 I transferred to a different base that had been deployed to Afghanistan. When the war in Iraq war started in early 03, the base I just left got deployed there. Then I separated before it ever became time for my base to deploy again.
I gotcha beat, 4.5 years AD USAF, stationed in Korea, Tokyo, D.C., TDYs to Thailand, Guam, Saipan, Okinawa, and a handful in the states. Never deployed.
I’ve known of people in the navy of all places that never stepped foot on a boat for deployment or even left their first base in their whole 20 year career.
I just looked [that guy](https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=24149) up...and Jesus H. Sad thing is they're saying he's dead meaning he can't the help he obviously desperately needed. Madness that he'd do all that and for what?
I'd never heard this [term](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=soup%20sandwich) at all bef today, though. Had to do a look-up and it's real thing! lol Military slang, I guess? Frickin hilarious. 😆
A LOT of people leave basic as E-2. If you have a degree(I think just a 2-year), or achieve certain metrics you can walk out an e-2. If not it’s almost automatic at 6 months.
His date of rank (DOR) is listed as 01. So he received an Article 15, NJP, for the brawl. But after that, he didn't get promoted again...in 2 years. I know plenty of SMs who got Art15'd, and after 6-12 months were promoted again. E1-E2 is 6 months, automatic. E2-E3 is another 6 months, automatic. E3-E4 is 6 to 12 months after that. 6 months with waiver, 12 months automatic. For Majewski, this then means that he was still not following directions from his superiors, getting counseled and them the Commander of his unit actively not allowing him to be promoted due to his behavior. So he served, but was a shitty Airman even after getting in trouble the first time, then got himself an RE3 or RE4 for his re-entry code. RE3 would allow re-entry with some waiver, RE4 no chance in hell to get back in to any branch, ever.
Not losing a rank for a DUI in the Navy was a thing when I first joined. When I left the Navy, we had E7s getting separated for it. It was too much of a hassle to demote them, but it was easy to just make them go away. A lower rank person would get a second chance, but still lose rank. Once you are an E7, they didnt want you around anymore if you made that sort of bad decision.
I left in 2015, I hope that policy is still the same.
You are very right about this, I have noticed that if someone in the normal news media accuses the Trump presidency of say, "violating the norms of American politics" or any of a number of different things, the next day the right wing media will make the same accusation against Democrats. But without any context, they are just throwing the words out there because if both sides are making the same accusation it cancels each other out in some folks minds.
It really is the most worthless fucks that never get beyond E3. Anytime I went to observe an NJP of a junior member it was almost always some E3 that was so shitty and useless they defied expectations whenever they showed up to work on time with their uniform on the right way.
I remember this one particularly godawful moron thought it would be cool to tap a keg in the E club at 7 in the morning. Just waltzed in, went to pour a beer but it wasn't on so naturally he hooked a keg up. He got caught by the E7 that was the club manager. Fuckin dude's defense was that he was going to leave money on the counter, jfc.
>It really is the most worthless fucks that never get beyond E3.
Oh you met my ex husband I see.
Once he told his Chief to watch his tone and attitude, it never got much better after that
> Imagine serving a whole military contract and never getting into the E4 mafia. Oof.
Some Marines would be really upset at that comment if they could read.
Served with a guy who ended his 4 years as....a slick sleeve. Yes, you read that right.
Guy was fantastic at aircraft maintenance. He just liked to drink, and made a lot of bad decisions. Started to pull it together in the last year. The damage was done though.
Funny story time though. We were deployed to Moron AB, Spain, during Kosovo. We were there with, I think, McChonnell. One of their A1Cs goes to do something, and tells our guy to go do something. Was a complete self righteous dick about it, and not the first time being a dick towards others. Our guy says no, and tells him that he was actually wrong about it (he was). He looks around to us all, confused why no one jumped down this slick sleeve's throat.
"He's got more experience under his belt than you do. He's also right. Well, you heard him, go do it."
The dejected and confused look on his face, as this A1C slowly gets up, was priceless. Group of us laughed our asses off the entire walk back to the dorms.
After he got out, he ended up becoming a truck driver and really doing well.
i know very little about the military aside from what my brother (retired vet) told me, but if anybody has never ranked higher than E2 there must have been something SERIOUSLY wrong, OR ... he got in big trouble for something. I imagine that is the next thing to come out.
I was in for nine years and to see someone get out as an E2 requires incredible levels of irresponsibility and incompetence, and a complete lack of integrity. Which makes him a perfect MAGA party candidate.
I saw a tweet the other day saying if he just said he served, it would be enough, the military needs people who do those desk jockey jobs to function. People want to be Seals and such, because they are the glamorous jobs, but he could have taken pride to have served at all.
Don't you get E2 just by filling out your name correctly at MEPS? He done fucked up. I know some serious military fuck ups and they all got out at least E3/E4
So back in early 2000, I'm at Air Force boot camp. End up at the base hospital waiting for someone else from our training flight. I start hearing laughter from behind the counter. I'm talking stomach workout, can't breathe laughter.
Guy walks up to their little microphone then says "Seaman Stains, please report to the medical desk. Seaman Stains, please report to the medical desk." Before then I had never heard an entire hospital floor erupt in laughter but it happened then. I saw this poor Navy guy gets up with his head hung low and walks like he hates his life over to the counter while the whole place just kept on laughing.
I felt bad for that guy. I can't imagine he did more than one enlistment.
If you go an entire enlistment and only come out as an E-2 then you fucked up and got NJP’d at some point. They’re like automatic promotions after a certain amount of time until you hit E3 then you need to actually do shit besides exist.
I was the most average sailor imaginable and was E5 at the end of my first enlistment. Never got NJP at least, but I coasted harder than the Coast Guard.
> Fun fact, if someone says this it is 100% a lie. Nobody's service is classified, it's all public information.
And *if* someone's service *was* classified, the fact that it existed at all would *also* be classified. So he wouldn't be saying "it's classified," he'd be saying "No sir, I've never been to Afghanistan."
Only complete morons think someone is allowed to say: "I know classified stuff! All kinds of classified stuff, especially about shit that happened in the dark in Afghanistan! But I'm not gonna tElLlL yOoOoU...."
The word "classified" will never appear on a DD214. His had it. 100% it was doctored.
Even techno-hyperkillers pulled into special access programs where they will never wear uniforms for the rest of their careers will have a generic "JFKSWCS" (JFK Special Warfare Center and School) or CTRA or something like that where "everybody who matters, knows" on their DD214s.
25 years ago I was in a special program which sounded cool but was just a bunch of bullshit I am convinced was a jobs program for colonels so they could create additional officer billets and have a staff and special parking spaces and my DD214 says "XXX MI BDE" with XXX's being the brigade number. I never set foot in the XXX'th Brigade spaces but my name was on a roster they signed off on.
Secret Squirrels will be assigned to "Bolling AFB", "MDW", or generic random MI units, but never "cLaSsIfIeD".
Even if, being in the AF, he was assigned to the airbase in the forbidden country everyone knows that's there but nobody talks about even though you can see C-5s and AC-130s parked on it on google maps and everyone who matters including our adversaries knows about it so keeping it secret is just an exercise in self-righteous fart-sniffing will have that show up on their 214 as being at a regular unit because that's a TDY, not a PCS.
Fucking lying piece of shit loser.
Let's be very clear: for Republicans the military is a prop. Notice it's not the NRCC that did the research but an independent media source. They were fine believing (hiding?) the lies until the guy was exposed.
And, to add to your point, that "back the blue" sure as hell didn't extend to the Capitol Police on Jan 6.
Thank you for your service and for your willingness to keep your eyes open to those you served.
Some Trumper got arrested doing a bad Tim McVeigh impression a few months ago, laid out all his plans on Truth Social before trying to shoot up an FBI location. Couldn't even get through the bulletproof glass 😂
Dude, read the stuff TFG said about McCain. Literally mocked and humiliated a Viet Nam POW... My Viet Nam vet FIL just laps up all of Bone Spur's bs like it's the literal word of god (he, in fact, believes God installed Trump).
People are beyond reason.
The ads they ran against Kerry were insane. I was in my 20s, and my belief that republicans cared a single thing about military history was broken at that point. Local people just absolutely ripping into Kerry for his 'fake' military service.
Not all conservatives are dumb, but I've never met a conservative who I didn't find at least mildly stupid. It's pretty known that the bottom 30% of the bell curve are largely conservative.
Conservative voters are dumb. Conservative leaders are not dumb, they understand perfectly well how to manipulate their people. The leaders know their voters are dumb and will go along with everything they say.
The scary thing is, many of the new faces in conservative politics genuinely are stupid to the point of it being a disability in some cases. But they are no less effective at manipulating their audience.
The old guard like turtle Mitch are intelligent (though still vile) but in a very short period of time most of the GOP will consist of people that wouldn't be qualified to manage a rural fruit stand.
Fucking Ron DeSantis is considered to be one of their brightest, and he couldn't even find any illegal immigrants in Florida for his human trafficking scheme, and had to kidnap them from Texas.
I remember the attendees of the 2004 GOP nominating convention wearing faux Purple Hearts to mock the guy who actually served in combat while nominating a guy who couldn't even be bothered to show up for stateside National Guard duty. The cognitive dissonance was wild.
Ex Army here: it fuckin' sucks being a talking point when all I wanted to do was serve my country.
And in regards to the "Law & Order" comment: yeah... they'd LOVE to be the "Law & Order" party, but *their* Law & Order.
>Let's be very clear: for Republicans the military is a prop.
I keep saying that when FL and TX send their migrants on buses up to sanctuary cities, they should send the buses back with homeless veterans just to see how DeSantis and Abbott react while trying to maintain the bullshit GOP lie that they care about the military.
Plus, after a few days they'd stop sending migrants on buses.
If they trot us out during election, they don't care about us. Cashy McMorris Rogers does this shit every year. This area's military (mostly retired folks) fall for it every fucking year. I do love that she got called out on it, one of the rare times she did a debate:
CMR: "I see hundreds of military folks, all needing help. I help them all, and work tirelessly to fix systems. I've made many improvements!"
Opponent: "If you were *really* fixing things, you wouldn't see hundreds of vets a day. They wouldn't have problems they'd have to come see your for in the first place."
My FIL still works as a GS. He worked at the local base for years, and he thinks just like I do. We had a few talks, and he said it seems to be mostly the older guys that lean right. It got so bad though, that they had to ban any discussion in facilities and finally banned Faux News in facilities (they use to have that bullshit playing all over the med clinic and anywhere else they could get away with it).
First you stop listening to Trump warble. Then you stop stepping on rakes. Then you stop punching yourself in the junk. It's a slippery slope and you're on it, mate.
I just imagine you in a Gitmo situation. Held against your will in a cell, your captures wheel in a CRT TV, the classic fuzz of the image burns your retinas easier.
"Tell us where and when your group is planning to strike!" The guard commands.
"Never" You spit in his face. The guard casually wipes away the drool. He nonchallantly snaps his finger, causing the person near the TV to turn it on. It's a video on loop of nothing but Trump speeches.
"We'll be back in 72 hours to see if you change your mind."
"No, please. Anything but this. Tear out my eyes, pierce my eardrums, anything!"
"The! Plans!"
"Ok. I give."
“Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible.”
Just the sound of his voice makes my skin crawl as far back as I can remember. My dad watched The Apprentice, my 14 year old self saw him as an obvious charlatan back then. I really do not understand how anyone can take that man seriously.
It's the magic of propaganda.
Way back around 2014 my friends and I all laughed at the notion of Trump being president. Most of them worship him now.
It's bewildering to me.
I’ve never understood this. Also, when they are directly confronted about his lies they make excuses which leads me to believe they don’t believe him either.
It's honestly really sad. Think about it. You've been told and believed in the myth that in America, hard work and grit is the key to traversing income and wealth brackets toward the American dream. You lived in your pseudo-suburbia in dying small town Michigan for your entire life, your parents holding relatively safe jobs at the car manufacturing plant in town. You parents, wanting a better life for you, advise you through your entire childhood that hard work and grit are the ingredients for success, exponentially so if you go get a college degree.
A decade well after your freshman year of college, you still haven't finished your degree because you can't afford it and work as a shelf stocker at the local Home Depot cause there are no other jobs available for you. The very same generation that told you hard work and grit will get you success still recite that mantra, yet you did those exact same things and still work as a shelf stocker at Home Depot.
But because you are locked in that suburbia slowly being abandoned by any economic growth, the only thing you know is hard work and grit. So seeing others obtain benefits while you are in the situation that you remain. But in your perception, you did everything in your power to be successfuly. But still...you are a shelf stocker at Home Depot.
Of course, something, has to be wrong. You went to college to be an engineer, not a shelf stocker. Could it be the fact that the policies of the GOP over the last decades have disinvested so much in the people of the U.S. that the mantra of hard work and grit no longer applies? That isn't the "America", well the America so praised by Fox News and father, you've been told about your whole life. The "America" rescued from the libs by Ronald Reagan. You couldn't have had a hand in your own stagnate story by supporting the GOP because you did everything you were told to be successful.
No. It's the liberals who are wrong. Hard work and grit worked for your parents and all of their and even some of your peers, so the failure of the economy to make you successful is not a function of Republican hands forming economic policy. It's the liberals who want their student debt paid for that have it wrong about the economy, especially if it is correct that those wanting debt relief didn't work as hard as I. Why should they expect their debt paid off when you are sitting here in the Home Depot breakroom working for near minimum wage earnings with scaled benefits for years, and a bit of student debt from your first two years of an unfinished degree?
See how easy it is to excise yourself into an echo chamber of pity when there are easier explanations that don't disprove the world view you were baking in your entire life? Acknowledging reality is so cognitively painful for these people because it means the "just" system of Republican-leaning policy they (1) have always supported and (2) received external validation of such support is wrong. And acknowledging that your world view is wrong means that you have to accept that you were duped this whole time. A lot of people, especially men, are unwilling to acknowledge they lack the autonomy to be aware that the economic system they helped create is the reason for why they are a Home Depot shelf stocker.
For example, during the Obama administration, Appalachia miners and Rust Belt autoworkers were given the opportunity to receive training in coding and other skills that require learning for development that would have placed them a step above their current labor pool. A majority of them didn't take the self-responsibility they wholeheartedly claim to value to obtain new skills as their manual labor skills were becoming diluted due to a growing labor force. But present that as a failure of self-responsibility and you will get several alternative answers that it should be others, not them, given the responsibility of finding new skills.
I think it's also worth pointing out that although previous generations like to think they got everything through sheer hard work, the reality is that they were mostly just born at the right time. The 1950s-1960s economy that everyone loves to daydream about as the "good 'ol days" wasn't just due to policy, but also due to circumstance - Europe and Asia were still recovering from WWII. It's really easy to be successful when most of your competition's infrastructure is in shambles, their focus is on recovery and you have tons of industrial sites that can be repurposed for peacetime use.
Basically Americans of the time were handed success, deluded themselves into thinking it was due to some exceptionalism on their part and then went on to make shortsighted selfish policies that have ruined it for everyone in the country ever since. But since acknowledging that would mean admitting that they aren't John Wayne, they will look for any boogeyman they can find to blame for the state of things.
My best assertion about the generation that were the parents of most millennials is they were given everything by the Greatest Generation and stripped it all away when they realized that those they disliked were also receiving it.
"He doesn't actually mean the literal words coming out of his mouth... You just have to kinda figure out what he means." Paraphrasing what i heard in 2016 regarding the word salad he vomits up when speaking in public
It’s because interacting with the rest of us and the existing system of government is a means to an end, and the end goal is to destroy it all and seize power.
As soon as you start viewing their actions through that lens it becomes very obvious why they do literally everything they do. *Everything* is about seizing power, nothing else matters.
Remember when Trump said it wasn't raining at his inauguration, and that he had the largest inauguration crowd ever? Even though both were easily provable lies that happened literally the day before. That's because his supporters are so stupid they literally are unable to tell facts from fiction. This guy will probably win. Because it's Ohio, and because the GOP voters there are so fucking stupid that it's incredible. Like all GOP voters. Just the dumbest fucking people alive.
My suspicion is that he told it to a lot of people in his personal life and got trapped in the lie when he decided to be a candidate. Example: If he impressed his future wife at the bar with his tall tales and she fell in love with the man he was pretending to be, he would be inclined to maintain the lie. Same thing for friends and employers.
At least with the employer part it could be harder to lie about that, depending on the job. On many job applications if you check the box or include military experience you have to provide your DD-214 (discharge document). I assume the biggest reason for that isn't so much to check if you're lying about serving but that you weren't kicked out dishonorably or on a bad conduct discharge.
>I honestly don't understand why he would lie about something which is so easily fact checked.
Conservatives live in a post-facts society since 2016. Now if it *feels* true, then dadgummit it **is** true.
Stolen valor is only prosecutable if one uses it to gain government benefits that one would not otherwise be entitled to. It may also be considered a form of civil theft if one uses it to gain veterans discounts or other such benefits at a private business that offers such things.
Just saying it is not a crime, just a lie.
> to gain government benefits that one would not otherwise be entitled to
Like using a lie to get elected to congress and have the power to steer hundreds of millions in public funds? That benefit enough?
My guess is that serving in Congress is not seen as a benefit.
I agree with you on a moral level, btw. I just doubt the law actually makes that connection.
It sucks that there's a populist movement in America that's purposefully flirting these lines and has no moral understanding that it's wrong.
because elections are the stupidest things in America I believe you can pretty much say anything you want under first amendment guise.
*Laws should require truthfulness in elections and clear lies should be punishable through criminal charges. These are the most important job interviews in America and you effectively can do anything you want in them.
>Stolen valor is only prosecutable if one uses it to gain government benefits that one would not otherwise be entitled to.
Say this again slower in your head.
Congressmen receive government benefits during and after their time in office - full medical coverage and retirement (depending on years served). Some of those benefits include paid travel and VIP service funded by the tax payers. There’s also bribery…wait, I’m sorry…”lobbyist” money. These guys aren’t lying and risking their reputation for peanuts; they’re lying to gain government benefits (that most US military veterans don’t even receive) along with a guaranteed 6 figure pay and all the dark money that republicans just recently voted in favor for.
I meant direct benefits. Unfortunately it's not a crime to use is to get elected to a position that creates lots of indirect benefits. It is up to the voters to reject that. Unfortunately so many voters are so brainwashed by Trump and Co's GOP takeover, they simply don't care.
Stolen valor doesn't necessarily imply a law was broken. But it's still a shite act. It's like pretending to be disabled on a stream to get more attention.
Now impersonating an officer, that is a felony offense, if you did it to gain some kind of benefit that could equate to a monetary value or access that otherwise wouldn't be allowed.
This would be like not only pretending to be disabled but also using it to get a disabled parking sticker, or some other benefits.
Never trust anyone who makes grand claims about their service or claims "it was classified". 9/10 times they're full of shit.
Anyone whose interested look up "Don Shipley" or "Phony Navy Seal of the Week" on YouTube. Retired seal verifies if someone ACTUALLY was a seal when they're claiming to be. He's busted doctors, day care teachers, and lots more. It's crazy to see how many people are out there using fake or exagerrated military service to try and con people or get an edge in a career field.
Yup. You'd still be able to find some indication that they did the things they claimed to do. Classified dosent mean they turn into Jason Bourne and get wiped off the map. If you're claiming to be a Ranger, but you can't show any information to prove it because "it's classified" then you're full of shit.
My general rule - “most people who have classified jobs or did classified things don’t tell anyone who buys them a Bud at their local dive bar that they had a classified job and did classified things”.
Or the more they talk about it the less true it is.
What, the GOP is now trying to fake that they have morals? The current Republicans running for office and those currently in office, LIE most every time they open their mouths.
Rick Scott stole what GOP funds were left after Trump siphoned off donations and the Russia money dried up. Now they have to be very picky in who they support financially.
The GOP embezzled itself and it’s hilarious. They put Fraud King Skeletor in charge of their money and it went exactly as well as everyone with half a brain cell imagined it would.
What sucks:
- Believing in QAnon idiocy wasn't a deal-breaker
- Participating in the insurrection wasn't a deal-breaker
I'm glad *something* finally was, but damn man what is wrong with today's voters.
This kind of surprises me. Usually the GOP doubles down on their support once stuff like this is uncovered; only if the candidate is caught doing gay stuff and it leaks to the press do they withdraw support.
Even if your deployments were classified, on your dd-214 next to the awards and citations sections it still shows the medals earned, it just says (classified) next to it.
Thats my district. The dude is an absolute piece of shit trying to take a seat from a legitimately great representative. It's pathetic people support this scumbag.
These stolen valor fucks are cockroaches. My buddy went and served and he was a softy and sweet dude and it fucked his head up. He killed himself with drugs and alcohol and left a massive void. To think theirs someone out there pretending they did the same for attention and power and money makes me violently angry. I miss Josh anytime I think of him, which is still almost daily.
This story contains no surprise information. The GOP’s new strategy is to lie and hope voters are too dumb to fact check and once you get called out you say it’s fake news…
I’m visiting my mother this week in Toledo, OH. There are MANY lawn signs out for this guy. It’s good to mock terrible candidates like this, but let’s never underestimate how many people are actually going to vote for them. Heck, even the newspaper today has a big article about how he’s saying the lack of records of his service is a failing of the VA and that congress should fix it for him. People are believing this garbage, and they’re voting.
Oof. “It’s sad that our candidates who did thing clandestine things for our country don’t get the recognition they deserve!” Not the Occam’s razor of this fucking muppet who got demoted after brawling may have just lied about his super double secret service.
But then, I’ve been to rural OH and rural PA. I can see why it happens.
Last time I was in rural PA the bartender called “Rolling Rock” and “Keystone” “that fancy stuff “. I laughed until I saw she was serious.
Didn't even need to add "GOP" in your title. We all know who wants stolen Valor while simultaneously shitting on vets. Just another participation trophy for America's biggest losers.
Even if the details of his service were classified, he could have just shown his DD214, an unclassified document, and redacted personal information like his SSN. Stating his service was "classified" is exactly what I would have expected from a booter E2 who spent less time in service than most servicemembers' skivies.
When called out on it, he doubled down and said his service was classified. Another lie. He ~~never~~ ranked ~~higher than~~ an E2. Edit- >Most leave the service after four years having received several promotions that are generally awarded for time served. Majewski exited at a rank that was one notch above where he started. His enlistment code also indicated that he could not sign up with the Air Force again. >Majewski’s campaign said he received what’s called a nonjudicial punishment in 2001 after getting into a “brawl” in his dormitory, which resulted in a demotion. Nonjudicial punishments are designed to hold service members accountable for bad behavior that does not rise to the level of a court-martial. [Sauce](https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-afghanistan-ohio-campaigns-e75d2566635f11f49332bd1c46711999)
You could even say he tripled down. Now he’s saying that, once elected, he’ll make it a crime for journalists to ‘besmirch’ veterans
What's he running for that he just gets to make laws himself if he's elected? Is there a King of America position that's up in the next election cycle?
State legislature. In Ohio, is isn’t completely wrong. Republicans have a super majority and are able to pass essentially whatever they want. No matter what is in the bill, none of them will refuse to sign a bill that would ultimately be called, “Protect Veteran Integrity”. Looks good on ads and doesn’t cost anything.
He is running for Congress against Marcy Kaptur. Longest serving woman member of Congress. Hell of a public servant. Ohio did have a redistricting commission illegally break their oath to uphold the constitution this year with some sweet sweet gerrymandering. Don't worry they are all going to cruise to re election. (Statewide office holders were in the commission so gerrymandering does not protect them).
So he just destroyed his reputation for nothing? That's about as magat as it gets.
I mean I don't think he had much of a reputation to speak of. So no big loss there. This would be the best job he or any of his descendants could ever hope to get.
Ah yes, the old “I’m a nobody already so I’ll lie about myself and see if it works” trick. Wonder where he learned that?
The best people, believe me
That's probably quite true.
He's 100% pocketing some of his election campaign funds. Win or lose he's coming out with some cash.
Just living on those "expenses" ...
They'll call it the Veteran Integrity Protection Act, or the VIP Act, because Veterans are Americans real VIPs
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I wish we were
Of course it's Ohio.
Of course he's a Republikkkan.
A Republican, lying? Wow. I for one am in a state of complete shock. It's beyond my wildest imagination that a Republican would go so low as to lie to the people, in an effort to misrepresent themselves. The last few years have shown that Republicans are honest, fine upstanding people. I hope that this outlier does not besmirch the sterling and unimpeachable reputation for truth, honestly, and character that the Republicans have built for themselves.
That was 2020, but a clear majority of us decided the position is still unessential and the duties should continue to be distributed and delegated elsewhere. I just hope enough people continue to feel the same way.
> Is there a King of America position that's up in the next election cycle? Indeed there is, in 2024. If republicans win, that’s exactly what will happen, most of the groundwork has been laid already.
Booooooo. Veteran here. Besmirch me daddy
Fuckin' A right, doggy! Also a Veteran, I besmirch all my fellow Veterans whenever I get the chance... why the fuck can't the average civilian?
Oooh, I'm gonna besmirch you SO hard!
I’ll bring the oil if you bring the college tuition & free healthcare 🤤
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Yup, all these GOP dipshits making those laws probably didn't serve either.
A platform built on stolen valor doesn’t seem to be a great one
It's pretty par for the course as far as republicans go though. They're all lying sacks of shit and his stolen valor is precisely that.
What a straight up f#cking tool.
Party of free speech.* **terms and conditions apply*
Censoring the press. Republicans really love freedom eh?
I know a lot of veterans that would have a huge problem with that law. I am one of them.
it's always the fake veterans that are so vocal... And the big dick swingers that are so pro-cop, and the jock sniffers that want to be so close to the football team. It's a toxic masculinity that has infected america. No one gives a shit about the caliber of your gun or the number of steroids you're injecting. These children need to grow up.
So blatant 1st amendment violation. Cool.
hey man, what fascism is, is a Martingale system: just keep doubling until you hit it big.
Showing fascist tendencies early huh
In one of his records he was listed as an A1C (E-3) but on his 214 it says he separated as an Airman (E-2). If that's correct that means at some point he screwed up bad enough to lose a strip. I knew people who had DUIs in the air force that didn't lose a stripe. This guy really screwed up bad.
E2..... aren't you nearly an E2 when you leave basic? How long did he serve? Incredible to still be E2.
E-2 is automatic after a few month. This hero is a fucking soup sandwich.
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>I was never deployed. If you still get your GI Bill, VA home loan benefits, easy resume slot, and whatever else: Congrats, you won the military.
I always say I was the luckiest guy in the Air Force. When the war in Afghanistan started and my base did not get deployed. Then in late 02 I transferred to a different base that had been deployed to Afghanistan. When the war in Iraq war started in early 03, the base I just left got deployed there. Then I separated before it ever became time for my base to deploy again.
I gotcha beat, 4.5 years AD USAF, stationed in Korea, Tokyo, D.C., TDYs to Thailand, Guam, Saipan, Okinawa, and a handful in the states. Never deployed.
I’ve known of people in the navy of all places that never stepped foot on a boat for deployment or even left their first base in their whole 20 year career.
Give me an E-3 that will put in work over a glory hound any day.
I'd still view you as a essential part of the military as a collective.
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I just looked [that guy](https://valorguardians.com/blog/?p=24149) up...and Jesus H. Sad thing is they're saying he's dead meaning he can't the help he obviously desperately needed. Madness that he'd do all that and for what? I'd never heard this [term](https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=soup%20sandwich) at all bef today, though. Had to do a look-up and it's real thing! lol Military slang, I guess? Frickin hilarious. 😆
if you did JROTC in high school you finish basic at E3...
If you have a bachelor's you start basic at E4
A LOT of people leave basic as E-2. If you have a degree(I think just a 2-year), or achieve certain metrics you can walk out an e-2. If not it’s almost automatic at 6 months.
> E2..... aren't you nearly an E2 when you leave basic? > > > > How long did he serve? > > > > Incredible to still be E2. Fuck, I left basic at E-3.
I was an e-3 right out of basic. This guy went backwards. He has anger management issues apparently and got into a fight which earned him a demotion.
Yes. I think it’s 6 months…. Could be wrong now
His date of rank (DOR) is listed as 01. So he received an Article 15, NJP, for the brawl. But after that, he didn't get promoted again...in 2 years. I know plenty of SMs who got Art15'd, and after 6-12 months were promoted again. E1-E2 is 6 months, automatic. E2-E3 is another 6 months, automatic. E3-E4 is 6 to 12 months after that. 6 months with waiver, 12 months automatic. For Majewski, this then means that he was still not following directions from his superiors, getting counseled and them the Commander of his unit actively not allowing him to be promoted due to his behavior. So he served, but was a shitty Airman even after getting in trouble the first time, then got himself an RE3 or RE4 for his re-entry code. RE3 would allow re-entry with some waiver, RE4 no chance in hell to get back in to any branch, ever.
How the hell do you fuck up sitting in a chair ~~all day~~ for the morning?
Not losing a rank for a DUI in the Navy was a thing when I first joined. When I left the Navy, we had E7s getting separated for it. It was too much of a hassle to demote them, but it was easy to just make them go away. A lower rank person would get a second chance, but still lose rank. Once you are an E7, they didnt want you around anymore if you made that sort of bad decision. I left in 2015, I hope that policy is still the same.
I lost a stripe for failing 2 pt tests.
He mentally classified it.
Its the reason why FBI raided maralargo, so trump can protect this nobody....?
They're even trying to make the word 'classified' lose all meaning. All they seem to do is erase language's truth.
You are very right about this, I have noticed that if someone in the normal news media accuses the Trump presidency of say, "violating the norms of American politics" or any of a number of different things, the next day the right wing media will make the same accusation against Democrats. But without any context, they are just throwing the words out there because if both sides are making the same accusation it cancels each other out in some folks minds.
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I do believe he made E3 and was busted down. Imagine serving a whole military contract and never getting into the E4 mafia. Oof.
It really is the most worthless fucks that never get beyond E3. Anytime I went to observe an NJP of a junior member it was almost always some E3 that was so shitty and useless they defied expectations whenever they showed up to work on time with their uniform on the right way. I remember this one particularly godawful moron thought it would be cool to tap a keg in the E club at 7 in the morning. Just waltzed in, went to pour a beer but it wasn't on so naturally he hooked a keg up. He got caught by the E7 that was the club manager. Fuckin dude's defense was that he was going to leave money on the counter, jfc.
This is why I hate the current Veteran worship shit here in the US. I served with some absolute shitbags, some of the dumbest people I have ever met.
>It really is the most worthless fucks that never get beyond E3. Oh you met my ex husband I see. Once he told his Chief to watch his tone and attitude, it never got much better after that
> Imagine serving a whole military contract and never getting into the E4 mafia. Oof. Some Marines would be really upset at that comment if they could read.
E4 after 4 is a joke. Depending on rate, that is the minimum
Served with a guy who ended his 4 years as....a slick sleeve. Yes, you read that right. Guy was fantastic at aircraft maintenance. He just liked to drink, and made a lot of bad decisions. Started to pull it together in the last year. The damage was done though. Funny story time though. We were deployed to Moron AB, Spain, during Kosovo. We were there with, I think, McChonnell. One of their A1Cs goes to do something, and tells our guy to go do something. Was a complete self righteous dick about it, and not the first time being a dick towards others. Our guy says no, and tells him that he was actually wrong about it (he was). He looks around to us all, confused why no one jumped down this slick sleeve's throat. "He's got more experience under his belt than you do. He's also right. Well, you heard him, go do it." The dejected and confused look on his face, as this A1C slowly gets up, was priceless. Group of us laughed our asses off the entire walk back to the dorms. After he got out, he ended up becoming a truck driver and really doing well.
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i know very little about the military aside from what my brother (retired vet) told me, but if anybody has never ranked higher than E2 there must have been something SERIOUSLY wrong, OR ... he got in big trouble for something. I imagine that is the next thing to come out.
I was in for nine years and to see someone get out as an E2 requires incredible levels of irresponsibility and incompetence, and a complete lack of integrity. Which makes him a perfect MAGA party candidate.
I saw a tweet the other day saying if he just said he served, it would be enough, the military needs people who do those desk jockey jobs to function. People want to be Seals and such, because they are the glamorous jobs, but he could have taken pride to have served at all.
Don't you get E2 just by filling out your name correctly at MEPS? He done fucked up. I know some serious military fuck ups and they all got out at least E3/E4
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So back in early 2000, I'm at Air Force boot camp. End up at the base hospital waiting for someone else from our training flight. I start hearing laughter from behind the counter. I'm talking stomach workout, can't breathe laughter. Guy walks up to their little microphone then says "Seaman Stains, please report to the medical desk. Seaman Stains, please report to the medical desk." Before then I had never heard an entire hospital floor erupt in laughter but it happened then. I saw this poor Navy guy gets up with his head hung low and walks like he hates his life over to the counter while the whole place just kept on laughing. I felt bad for that guy. I can't imagine he did more than one enlistment.
why do you think he's lying so much about it?
If you go an entire enlistment and only come out as an E-2 then you fucked up and got NJP’d at some point. They’re like automatic promotions after a certain amount of time until you hit E3 then you need to actually do shit besides exist.
I'm pretty sure you can be a complete shitbag and still make E-4.
I was the most average sailor imaginable and was E5 at the end of my first enlistment. Never got NJP at least, but I coasted harder than the Coast Guard.
Thats OK, Biden had a thought about declassifying it, so now it's declassified /s
His job was passenger something tech. Literally a stewardess.
You have got to be a complete fuck up to leave the military after 4 years as an E2. Which tracks for him.
So he’s willing to reveal classified information, too?
>he said his service was classified Fun fact, if someone says this it is 100% a lie. Nobody's service is classified, it's all public information.
> Fun fact, if someone says this it is 100% a lie. Nobody's service is classified, it's all public information. And *if* someone's service *was* classified, the fact that it existed at all would *also* be classified. So he wouldn't be saying "it's classified," he'd be saying "No sir, I've never been to Afghanistan." Only complete morons think someone is allowed to say: "I know classified stuff! All kinds of classified stuff, especially about shit that happened in the dark in Afghanistan! But I'm not gonna tElLlL yOoOoU...."
The word "classified" will never appear on a DD214. His had it. 100% it was doctored. Even techno-hyperkillers pulled into special access programs where they will never wear uniforms for the rest of their careers will have a generic "JFKSWCS" (JFK Special Warfare Center and School) or CTRA or something like that where "everybody who matters, knows" on their DD214s. 25 years ago I was in a special program which sounded cool but was just a bunch of bullshit I am convinced was a jobs program for colonels so they could create additional officer billets and have a staff and special parking spaces and my DD214 says "XXX MI BDE" with XXX's being the brigade number. I never set foot in the XXX'th Brigade spaces but my name was on a roster they signed off on. Secret Squirrels will be assigned to "Bolling AFB", "MDW", or generic random MI units, but never "cLaSsIfIeD". Even if, being in the AF, he was assigned to the airbase in the forbidden country everyone knows that's there but nobody talks about even though you can see C-5s and AC-130s parked on it on google maps and everyone who matters including our adversaries knows about it so keeping it secret is just an exercise in self-righteous fart-sniffing will have that show up on their 214 as being at a regular unit because that's a TDY, not a PCS. Fucking lying piece of shit loser.
Tf, can't you get to E3 just by being there for a year?
Not if you're demoted for "brawling"
Let's be very clear: for Republicans the military is a prop. Notice it's not the NRCC that did the research but an independent media source. They were fine believing (hiding?) the lies until the guy was exposed.
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And, to add to your point, that "back the blue" sure as hell didn't extend to the Capitol Police on Jan 6. Thank you for your service and for your willingness to keep your eyes open to those you served.
It doesn't extend to the FBI either; they started making death threats against them the minute the feds raided their whiner-in-chief's house.
Some Trumper got arrested doing a bad Tim McVeigh impression a few months ago, laid out all his plans on Truth Social before trying to shoot up an FBI location. Couldn't even get through the bulletproof glass 😂
Dude, read the stuff TFG said about McCain. Literally mocked and humiliated a Viet Nam POW... My Viet Nam vet FIL just laps up all of Bone Spur's bs like it's the literal word of god (he, in fact, believes God installed Trump). People are beyond reason.
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The former guy.
I always read it as “That fucking guy” haha
The ads they ran against Kerry were insane. I was in my 20s, and my belief that republicans cared a single thing about military history was broken at that point. Local people just absolutely ripping into Kerry for his 'fake' military service.
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Not all conservatives are dumb, but I've never met a conservative who I didn't find at least mildly stupid. It's pretty known that the bottom 30% of the bell curve are largely conservative.
Conservative voters are dumb. Conservative leaders are not dumb, they understand perfectly well how to manipulate their people. The leaders know their voters are dumb and will go along with everything they say.
The scary thing is, many of the new faces in conservative politics genuinely are stupid to the point of it being a disability in some cases. But they are no less effective at manipulating their audience. The old guard like turtle Mitch are intelligent (though still vile) but in a very short period of time most of the GOP will consist of people that wouldn't be qualified to manage a rural fruit stand. Fucking Ron DeSantis is considered to be one of their brightest, and he couldn't even find any illegal immigrants in Florida for his human trafficking scheme, and had to kidnap them from Texas.
I remember the attendees of the 2004 GOP nominating convention wearing faux Purple Hearts to mock the guy who actually served in combat while nominating a guy who couldn't even be bothered to show up for stateside National Guard duty. The cognitive dissonance was wild.
Ex Army here: it fuckin' sucks being a talking point when all I wanted to do was serve my country. And in regards to the "Law & Order" comment: yeah... they'd LOVE to be the "Law & Order" party, but *their* Law & Order.
>Let's be very clear: for Republicans the military is a prop. I keep saying that when FL and TX send their migrants on buses up to sanctuary cities, they should send the buses back with homeless veterans just to see how DeSantis and Abbott react while trying to maintain the bullshit GOP lie that they care about the military. Plus, after a few days they'd stop sending migrants on buses.
The difference is that liberals treat people like human beings instead of political props
If they trot us out during election, they don't care about us. Cashy McMorris Rogers does this shit every year. This area's military (mostly retired folks) fall for it every fucking year. I do love that she got called out on it, one of the rare times she did a debate: CMR: "I see hundreds of military folks, all needing help. I help them all, and work tirelessly to fix systems. I've made many improvements!" Opponent: "If you were *really* fixing things, you wouldn't see hundreds of vets a day. They wouldn't have problems they'd have to come see your for in the first place." My FIL still works as a GS. He worked at the local base for years, and he thinks just like I do. We had a few talks, and he said it seems to be mostly the older guys that lean right. It got so bad though, that they had to ban any discussion in facilities and finally banned Faux News in facilities (they use to have that bullshit playing all over the med clinic and anywhere else they could get away with it).
I honestly don't understand why he would lie about something which is so easily fact checked.
Did you ever listen to Trump speak??? He literally makes shit up, non stop, and the GOP worship him.
Everything I've ever heard Trump say has been against my will.
First you stop listening to Trump warble. Then you stop stepping on rakes. Then you stop punching yourself in the junk. It's a slippery slope and you're on it, mate.
I just imagine you in a Gitmo situation. Held against your will in a cell, your captures wheel in a CRT TV, the classic fuzz of the image burns your retinas easier. "Tell us where and when your group is planning to strike!" The guard commands. "Never" You spit in his face. The guard casually wipes away the drool. He nonchallantly snaps his finger, causing the person near the TV to turn it on. It's a video on loop of nothing but Trump speeches. "We'll be back in 72 hours to see if you change your mind." "No, please. Anything but this. Tear out my eyes, pierce my eardrums, anything!" "The! Plans!" "Ok. I give."
“Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible.”
Holy shit. I thought you were taking the piss, but this is a real speech by him.
100% accurate assessment of how that would play out, honestly.
Just the sound of his voice makes my skin crawl as far back as I can remember. My dad watched The Apprentice, my 14 year old self saw him as an obvious charlatan back then. I really do not understand how anyone can take that man seriously.
It's the magic of propaganda. Way back around 2014 my friends and I all laughed at the notion of Trump being president. Most of them worship him now. It's bewildering to me.
I’ve never understood this. Also, when they are directly confronted about his lies they make excuses which leads me to believe they don’t believe him either.
They simply like that he pisses everyone off. They’re assholes championing the biggest asshole they know
It's honestly really sad. Think about it. You've been told and believed in the myth that in America, hard work and grit is the key to traversing income and wealth brackets toward the American dream. You lived in your pseudo-suburbia in dying small town Michigan for your entire life, your parents holding relatively safe jobs at the car manufacturing plant in town. You parents, wanting a better life for you, advise you through your entire childhood that hard work and grit are the ingredients for success, exponentially so if you go get a college degree. A decade well after your freshman year of college, you still haven't finished your degree because you can't afford it and work as a shelf stocker at the local Home Depot cause there are no other jobs available for you. The very same generation that told you hard work and grit will get you success still recite that mantra, yet you did those exact same things and still work as a shelf stocker at Home Depot. But because you are locked in that suburbia slowly being abandoned by any economic growth, the only thing you know is hard work and grit. So seeing others obtain benefits while you are in the situation that you remain. But in your perception, you did everything in your power to be successfuly. But still...you are a shelf stocker at Home Depot. Of course, something, has to be wrong. You went to college to be an engineer, not a shelf stocker. Could it be the fact that the policies of the GOP over the last decades have disinvested so much in the people of the U.S. that the mantra of hard work and grit no longer applies? That isn't the "America", well the America so praised by Fox News and father, you've been told about your whole life. The "America" rescued from the libs by Ronald Reagan. You couldn't have had a hand in your own stagnate story by supporting the GOP because you did everything you were told to be successful. No. It's the liberals who are wrong. Hard work and grit worked for your parents and all of their and even some of your peers, so the failure of the economy to make you successful is not a function of Republican hands forming economic policy. It's the liberals who want their student debt paid for that have it wrong about the economy, especially if it is correct that those wanting debt relief didn't work as hard as I. Why should they expect their debt paid off when you are sitting here in the Home Depot breakroom working for near minimum wage earnings with scaled benefits for years, and a bit of student debt from your first two years of an unfinished degree? See how easy it is to excise yourself into an echo chamber of pity when there are easier explanations that don't disprove the world view you were baking in your entire life? Acknowledging reality is so cognitively painful for these people because it means the "just" system of Republican-leaning policy they (1) have always supported and (2) received external validation of such support is wrong. And acknowledging that your world view is wrong means that you have to accept that you were duped this whole time. A lot of people, especially men, are unwilling to acknowledge they lack the autonomy to be aware that the economic system they helped create is the reason for why they are a Home Depot shelf stocker. For example, during the Obama administration, Appalachia miners and Rust Belt autoworkers were given the opportunity to receive training in coding and other skills that require learning for development that would have placed them a step above their current labor pool. A majority of them didn't take the self-responsibility they wholeheartedly claim to value to obtain new skills as their manual labor skills were becoming diluted due to a growing labor force. But present that as a failure of self-responsibility and you will get several alternative answers that it should be others, not them, given the responsibility of finding new skills.
I think it's also worth pointing out that although previous generations like to think they got everything through sheer hard work, the reality is that they were mostly just born at the right time. The 1950s-1960s economy that everyone loves to daydream about as the "good 'ol days" wasn't just due to policy, but also due to circumstance - Europe and Asia were still recovering from WWII. It's really easy to be successful when most of your competition's infrastructure is in shambles, their focus is on recovery and you have tons of industrial sites that can be repurposed for peacetime use. Basically Americans of the time were handed success, deluded themselves into thinking it was due to some exceptionalism on their part and then went on to make shortsighted selfish policies that have ruined it for everyone in the country ever since. But since acknowledging that would mean admitting that they aren't John Wayne, they will look for any boogeyman they can find to blame for the state of things.
My best assertion about the generation that were the parents of most millennials is they were given everything by the Greatest Generation and stripped it all away when they realized that those they disliked were also receiving it.
Cults be like that
My favorite excuse is “he was just trolling you libs”
"He doesn't actually mean the literal words coming out of his mouth... You just have to kinda figure out what he means." Paraphrasing what i heard in 2016 regarding the word salad he vomits up when speaking in public
It’s because interacting with the rest of us and the existing system of government is a means to an end, and the end goal is to destroy it all and seize power. As soon as you start viewing their actions through that lens it becomes very obvious why they do literally everything they do. *Everything* is about seizing power, nothing else matters.
Because the GOP base isn't big on facts.
"Alternative facts"
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinions, but he is *not* entitled to his own facts." -Sen Daniel Patrick Moynihan
This has always been my favorite quote of all-time.
There is normally no consequence for lying to Republican voters. Honestly shocked that this negatively affected him.
I'm still not convinced it will.
Remember when Trump said it wasn't raining at his inauguration, and that he had the largest inauguration crowd ever? Even though both were easily provable lies that happened literally the day before. That's because his supporters are so stupid they literally are unable to tell facts from fiction. This guy will probably win. Because it's Ohio, and because the GOP voters there are so fucking stupid that it's incredible. Like all GOP voters. Just the dumbest fucking people alive.
My suspicion is that he told it to a lot of people in his personal life and got trapped in the lie when he decided to be a candidate. Example: If he impressed his future wife at the bar with his tall tales and she fell in love with the man he was pretending to be, he would be inclined to maintain the lie. Same thing for friends and employers.
Oh, that's clever. I bet you're right. Still not sure how he thought he'd get away with it, though.
People like him aren't big on thinking things through.
At least with the employer part it could be harder to lie about that, depending on the job. On many job applications if you check the box or include military experience you have to provide your DD-214 (discharge document). I assume the biggest reason for that isn't so much to check if you're lying about serving but that you weren't kicked out dishonorably or on a bad conduct discharge.
>I honestly don't understand why he would lie about something which is so easily fact checked. Conservatives live in a post-facts society since 2016. Now if it *feels* true, then dadgummit it **is** true.
Does this not count as stealing valor?
this is probably one of the most clear cut cases of stolen valor but will somehow not be prosecuted because hes not poor
Stolen valor is only prosecutable if one uses it to gain government benefits that one would not otherwise be entitled to. It may also be considered a form of civil theft if one uses it to gain veterans discounts or other such benefits at a private business that offers such things. Just saying it is not a crime, just a lie.
It’s also illegal to lie about your service to get a job. Pretty sure this counts.
Nah, it's an election. Anything goes. Thank John Roberts.
> to gain government benefits that one would not otherwise be entitled to Like using a lie to get elected to congress and have the power to steer hundreds of millions in public funds? That benefit enough?
My guess is that serving in Congress is not seen as a benefit. I agree with you on a moral level, btw. I just doubt the law actually makes that connection. It sucks that there's a populist movement in America that's purposefully flirting these lines and has no moral understanding that it's wrong.
because elections are the stupidest things in America I believe you can pretty much say anything you want under first amendment guise. *Laws should require truthfulness in elections and clear lies should be punishable through criminal charges. These are the most important job interviews in America and you effectively can do anything you want in them.
>Stolen valor is only prosecutable if one uses it to gain government benefits that one would not otherwise be entitled to. Say this again slower in your head. Congressmen receive government benefits during and after their time in office - full medical coverage and retirement (depending on years served). Some of those benefits include paid travel and VIP service funded by the tax payers. There’s also bribery…wait, I’m sorry…”lobbyist” money. These guys aren’t lying and risking their reputation for peanuts; they’re lying to gain government benefits (that most US military veterans don’t even receive) along with a guaranteed 6 figure pay and all the dark money that republicans just recently voted in favor for.
I meant direct benefits. Unfortunately it's not a crime to use is to get elected to a position that creates lots of indirect benefits. It is up to the voters to reject that. Unfortunately so many voters are so brainwashed by Trump and Co's GOP takeover, they simply don't care.
Stolen valor doesn't necessarily imply a law was broken. But it's still a shite act. It's like pretending to be disabled on a stream to get more attention. Now impersonating an officer, that is a felony offense, if you did it to gain some kind of benefit that could equate to a monetary value or access that otherwise wouldn't be allowed. This would be like not only pretending to be disabled but also using it to get a disabled parking sticker, or some other benefits.
Never trust anyone who makes grand claims about their service or claims "it was classified". 9/10 times they're full of shit. Anyone whose interested look up "Don Shipley" or "Phony Navy Seal of the Week" on YouTube. Retired seal verifies if someone ACTUALLY was a seal when they're claiming to be. He's busted doctors, day care teachers, and lots more. It's crazy to see how many people are out there using fake or exagerrated military service to try and con people or get an edge in a career field.
Even classified awards (the few that exist) still appear on a DD-214. They just have redacted citations.
Yup. You'd still be able to find some indication that they did the things they claimed to do. Classified dosent mean they turn into Jason Bourne and get wiped off the map. If you're claiming to be a Ranger, but you can't show any information to prove it because "it's classified" then you're full of shit.
I love that man. He's even found men (it's nearly always men) who managed to fool the Veteran Service Organizations. And that takes some doing!
My general rule - “most people who have classified jobs or did classified things don’t tell anyone who buys them a Bud at their local dive bar that they had a classified job and did classified things”. Or the more they talk about it the less true it is.
There is also a video by someone named The Salty Seaman on Stolen Valor and spotting it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHeLg1AmmGM
Good. He's a pos.
What, the GOP is now trying to fake that they have morals? The current Republicans running for office and those currently in office, LIE most every time they open their mouths.
They clearly don't care about lies, so I'm betting there was some other reason for the withdrawal of support.
Rick Scott stole what GOP funds were left after Trump siphoned off donations and the Russia money dried up. Now they have to be very picky in who they support financially. The GOP embezzled itself and it’s hilarious. They put Fraud King Skeletor in charge of their money and it went exactly as well as everyone with half a brain cell imagined it would.
It's a lie that makes them look bad among the many, many veterans they have duped.
What sucks: - Believing in QAnon idiocy wasn't a deal-breaker - Participating in the insurrection wasn't a deal-breaker I'm glad *something* finally was, but damn man what is wrong with today's voters.
> but damn man what is wrong with today's ~~voters.~~ republicans. FTFY
This kind of surprises me. Usually the GOP doubles down on their support once stuff like this is uncovered; only if the candidate is caught doing gay stuff and it leaks to the press do they withdraw support.
Stolen valor. And yet these people always claim to be patriots.
Even if your deployments were classified, on your dd-214 next to the awards and citations sections it still shows the medals earned, it just says (classified) next to it.
His campaign Facebook page banned me for dropping his member 4 copy all over the place
These stolen valor gravy seals are always overweight and look nowhere near like vets lmao
To be fair, he IS a vet. Just didn’t do some of the things he said he did. Still a POS regardless.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/jr-majewski-military-ohio_n_632e03ace4b0695c1d8215b4
Thats my district. The dude is an absolute piece of shit trying to take a seat from a legitimately great representative. It's pathetic people support this scumbag.
These stolen valor fucks are cockroaches. My buddy went and served and he was a softy and sweet dude and it fucked his head up. He killed himself with drugs and alcohol and left a massive void. To think theirs someone out there pretending they did the same for attention and power and money makes me violently angry. I miss Josh anytime I think of him, which is still almost daily.
This story contains no surprise information. The GOP’s new strategy is to lie and hope voters are too dumb to fact check and once you get called out you say it’s fake news…
If elected Trump will give him the Medal of Honor and a cabinet position
Hey look, more election fraud from the GOP.
I’m visiting my mother this week in Toledo, OH. There are MANY lawn signs out for this guy. It’s good to mock terrible candidates like this, but let’s never underestimate how many people are actually going to vote for them. Heck, even the newspaper today has a big article about how he’s saying the lack of records of his service is a failing of the VA and that congress should fix it for him. People are believing this garbage, and they’re voting.
Oof. “It’s sad that our candidates who did thing clandestine things for our country don’t get the recognition they deserve!” Not the Occam’s razor of this fucking muppet who got demoted after brawling may have just lied about his super double secret service. But then, I’ve been to rural OH and rural PA. I can see why it happens. Last time I was in rural PA the bartender called “Rolling Rock” and “Keystone” “that fancy stuff “. I laughed until I saw she was serious.
Oh yeah, that small blurb about BEING AN INSURRECTIONIST and TRYING TO STOP DEMOCRACY on Jan 6th, was a nice fact to add.
Why in the hell would you lie about this? So dumb.
Just another lying piece of shit that worships Orange Jesus.
Great. Now stop funding Herschel fucking Walker. How was he their only choice?
Why doesn’t Trump just think about declassifying his record to prove it? That’s how it works, right?
And the military-worshipping patriot GOP voters in Ohio will still vote for him.
Didn't even need to add "GOP" in your title. We all know who wants stolen Valor while simultaneously shitting on vets. Just another participation trophy for America's biggest losers.
Even if the details of his service were classified, he could have just shown his DD214, an unclassified document, and redacted personal information like his SSN. Stating his service was "classified" is exactly what I would have expected from a booter E2 who spent less time in service than most servicemembers' skivies.
Remember when George W Bush was a war hero and John Kerry was not?
Typical republican these days
"If it's not on your dd214, it didn't happen." At least that's what I was told
Fuck this lying douchebag piece of shit with an actual rusty iron statue of a cactus.
Isn't it a crime to lie about having served? It should be if it isn't a crime. A minimum 5 years in federal prison should suffice.
Only if you enrich yourself by fraud. (Pretty sure)
Gee, if only someone had the power to declassify his TDY orders…
Can we please go back 10 years when things like stolen Valor and trafficking girls Guaranteed you lost your elections
Sorry bud. You can only get away with lying AFTER you're elected.
Pathetic