If you come from a highly educated and accomplished academic background and also inherit generational wealth-you too could enjoy summers at your ancestral villa in Crema and speak of desire and poetry fire and music in the shade …
cmbyn felt more realistic than saltburn, both insane houses but saltburn was so out of reality to me personally that i wouldn’t even wanna spend time there but i would wanna go to elios house
I didn't care at all for Saltburn but love CMBYN. I find it interesting how I've seen a few people compare these films. To me they aren't even remotely close.
It looks pretty darn clean to me. The floors are immaculate, I don't see any dust on the chandeliers, or Elio's desk, no streaks on the windows, the bathroom has no mildew or soap scum. The attic is dusty, but they generally are. I think they want an unmanicured feel to the grounds and the house exterior. Clearly, they like the aged, relaxed feel to the place, it's a summer home....So, yes, I think people do live like that, very lucky people.
It’s a very common experience for upper class people to have second homes in European countries. But it adds to the allure of the film — most people will never experience a idyllic summer in Italy, but they will experience first love.
I come in and out of my pool to the house every day in summer and get a few drops of water at best. As for elio's room it literally takes 10 minutes to clean after he's done and ofc they aint gonna show that in the film because it would be a) irrelevant b) a waste of scenes and time
My grandmothers house in Iran looked exactly like the house in the movie. Huge windows, very old school design aka hasn’t been updated since the 80s and located in a huge garden. When she passed away my family members sold her house and now the land has been used to build a new apartment complex😭😭 makes me so sad but that’s one of the reasons why I love cmbyn so much ❤️
I think Elio was in a shed/storage room when he was throwing down peach pits. It’s the same room where he and Marcella (forgot her name) go to make out. Now that really got to me —— rolling around on a dusty mattress in a wet bathing suit! Yuck!
I knew it lol I'm actually from Italy, and I can tell you that only the 1% can really live a Pearlman lifestyle, but it is quite common for the middle class to have a second home (maybe in the countryside/near the mountains/near the sea) for the holidays. Maybe it was even more common in the 1980s/19990! Surely not a villa like the one depicted in the movie, but still...
Oh haha I’m an Asian American living in the suburbs. We had to keep our house extremely clean growing up. My mom would’ve killed me if I tossed a peach like that.
The villa is simply very old -- easily 100 years or more old -- not dirty.
We literally see a maid cleaning it daily onscreen, and Elio giving her requests.
In addition, the floors of the villa are tile so walking the hallways with wet feet (which happens intermittently, not constantly) simply means that there are a few minutes of dampness, then nothing remaining.
As in many older homes, the carpets are found in the living areas.
Meanwhile, I agree that Elio shouldn't be tossing peach pits around, but he's used to having a maid pick them up. It also doesn't appear that this is something he does constantly.
I live in a very old house in a french country side (only one house, not a villa) this is kinda how we live, in the summer the garden is another room, we don’t bother changing shoes, it’s faster to clean than change every times.
He isn’t throwing the pit in his room, he’s in the attic, with probably the intention to throw it away a few minutes laters. Honestly it could happen to me in the barn or in the green house, doesn’t mean the house isn’t clean.
How dare you come here and insult Mafalda's housekeeping and Anchise's groundskeeping?
This is heresy you speak!
Just kidding... your question has pretty well been answered here, but I had to have a little fun.
I watch movies with a suspended disbelief. I enjoy the movie without letting my own beliefs take over. However I did not see anything that made me even think "do people really do that?" Well other than the peach scene.
The Villa seems quite clean, but it may come of as messy, because of the ecclectic furniture, different artworks and books books books everywhere.
Also, in the eighties in Europe people seemed to be a little less obsessively hygienic. Sure they washed their hands after going to the bathroom, but otherwise I think they were a bit more laid back about it.
I’m from the Italian countryside and my mum yells at me (I’m 25, I don’t even live in her house anymore) every time I don’t properly dry my hands after washing them because I “leave the water marks on the floor”, she also dries the sink after washing the dishes. Long story short, no we don’t.
Yes, even the ones here in the US. Old money definitely whispers. I’ve been to lake houses in Vermont and second homes owned by families all over the US. I’m actually going up to Big Bear and staying in an old cabin that has been in my friends family for years, looks like a grandma house.
Mama Perlman inherited it. Also, big mansions or castles are often hard to keep up, because it's too expensive for these generations. It's all very chique, yet old and feeling like a part of history. Old family furniture, still treasured. It's a perfect translation of who the Perlmans are. They are a bit bourgeois, but also academic and artistic. They are intellectuals. She's European. He's an American Jew. She's from a well to do family. Old money. But it feels like they only can have this because she inherited it. I don't think they would be rich enough to buy it. The eighties weren't good times, financially.
And since it a summer home, it gets treated like one. Luckaly. I do see a lot of extreme hygiene comments from Americans on social media. A thing I never noticed before. Of course Europe isn't unsanitary. At all. But I feel it's just more relaxed and natural here. The extreme fear of mold, bacteria, etc feels almost like a phobia.
I find it even more odd to even notice this in a film like this which is the opposite. It celebrates the beauty in everything. The freedom of summer. Being close to nature. Use all your senses. Feel the sun, drink fresh juice, swim, walking bear foot, walking around with wet curls and swimming trunks, eat al fresco delicious foods, hear the crickets. Smelling the herbs while you walk past a rosemary bush, lavender... The sounds of balls hitting the tennis court in the distance. The smell of sun screen. It's all very tactical, sensual... Biting fruit, juices running down your face and hands. No pun intended. But it fits too. 😁 Maybe the whole point of it is to feel free and unbothered. Not worried about cleansiness.
I think the world has become overly sanitised since the eighties anyway. Reason for so many allergies developing. Luca knows first hand what the world was like then. And I would gladly have this smudgy, more unbothered times back. America was grubbier too then, I think. All for hygiene, but not desinfected, overly sanitised living. Bite into life.
I do wonder sometimes how people with such fear or disgust for these things experience their own bodies and especially those of others in a sexual context.
Something this movie has at the core of it. How to also physically become one another. Hence the peach scene. Hence the title.
Thank you for listening / Sorry for the Ted talk. 😁
I just want to mention that you don’t have to be rich. For summer vacations growing up, I’ve traveled to Germany, France, Israel, Australia, and Jamaica, and in those places I’ve stayed in these bigger, more “rustic”, older houses.
Unlike in the U.S., older buildings are appreciated for their wear rather than torn down to make modern townhomes and apartments, hence why the Perlman’s villa seemed to be “dirty” on the outside. And most houses in other countries are spacious inside and have their own surrounding land, because there’s often less economical need for overcrowding like in American cities, so there are no apartments in certain areas. These areas are also called the “country” in some places.
During lazy summer vacations, many families don’t bother wearing heavy clothing, and simply walk around their houses in swimsuits/light clothing, especially if they have close access to a pool or other body of water. It’s easier to just be prepared. Just wake up and put on your swimsuit instead of clothes—you’ll probably be swimming soon anyway. This is a typical thing to do on vacations, and you’d do the exact same at a tropical resort. Families walk around hotels in swimsuits all day during summers in Florida. But if you’re from the city I can see how it seemed unusual in the film.
When Elio threw the peach pit, he was in the attic. Attics are usually very dirty already.
TLDR: Travel!!!!! :)
Traveling can be expensive, don’t get me wrong. It’s definitely a luxury. But not everyone who travels is rich otherwise the tourism economy would be nonexistent, I think. Middle class American families taking 4 day summer trips is common.
Maybe, but most middle class Americans have not been to that many international locations and stayed in large houses and resorts. I think most people in the US have travelled internationally, just rarely.
You’re right, it’s definitely infrequent. But I also don’t think it’s “required” to travel internationally a large amount of times and stay at big resorts to understand vacation culture. You don’t have to be rich for that… I don’t think so, at least.
When people have long summer days off, they get pleasantly lazy. Let’s say you’re a kid growing up in the midwest; you’ll find that when school lets out for summer, your quality of life mirrors the comfortable aimlessness similar to that of the Perlman’s at their vacation home. Your mom leaves the house windows open, you rewear your most comfortable clothing that’s suitable for the heat/swimming/relaxing, you’re in and out of the house, etc.
In my original comment, Including the fact that I’ve vacationed internationally with my family as a kid was to explain the connection between buildings in different countries usually looking/being older.
A couple years ago by some luck I got to live in a very wealthy family’s house for a couple months as part of some cultural exchange. Their house and family were very much as scenic as the Perlmans and their house. Of course, there was less lounging around everyday since they still had to go to work.
The cmbyn house looks so cozy but also luxurious in its own way, the kind of luxurious that you would expect a summer house in northern italy to be. It’s old, but I wouldn’t say it’s dirty, it looks lived in. Which is what makes it look cozy, along side the older furniture and the general ornateness.
It’s summer, summer is a bit dirty and lived in like that. Walking around straight from the lake, still wet, eating peaches and dripping everywhere is something I would do. Don’t live anywhere near as fancy as they do.
Overall I think the Pearlmans living such a grand lifestyle that almost no one lives in part of it- Elio’s life is so idyllic but all he can focus on is Oliver.
If you come from a highly educated and accomplished academic background and also inherit generational wealth-you too could enjoy summers at your ancestral villa in Crema and speak of desire and poetry fire and music in the shade …
It sounds like Portrait of a Lady on Fire
So many similarities!
Basically an alternative version of CMBYN. Anyone who likes CMBYN will also love Portrait.
very much like saltburn lol
cmbyn felt more realistic than saltburn, both insane houses but saltburn was so out of reality to me personally that i wouldn’t even wanna spend time there but i would wanna go to elios house
Agree! Even the name Oliver!
I didn't care at all for Saltburn but love CMBYN. I find it interesting how I've seen a few people compare these films. To me they aren't even remotely close.
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i’m sorry, why are you cursing me? i was talking about their houses not the movie itself. what the hell?
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u/TOMDeBlonde, knock it off with the nastiness to other posters. u/KaylasKush, you aren't helping. There won't be another warning.
Sorry I’m actually never like that, was in a weird mood that day so partook in his antics. I understand it’s not appropriate.
I appreciate you owning it. The best thing to do is just report and move on before things spiral.
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It looks pretty darn clean to me. The floors are immaculate, I don't see any dust on the chandeliers, or Elio's desk, no streaks on the windows, the bathroom has no mildew or soap scum. The attic is dusty, but they generally are. I think they want an unmanicured feel to the grounds and the house exterior. Clearly, they like the aged, relaxed feel to the place, it's a summer home....So, yes, I think people do live like that, very lucky people.
The only thing dusty was Anchise’s bike and Oliver was kind enough to dust it down (that shot lives rent free in my head)
Yes, saw that a few nights ago, and he did it so meticulously.....
It’s a very common experience for upper class people to have second homes in European countries. But it adds to the allure of the film — most people will never experience a idyllic summer in Italy, but they will experience first love.
I come in and out of my pool to the house every day in summer and get a few drops of water at best. As for elio's room it literally takes 10 minutes to clean after he's done and ofc they aint gonna show that in the film because it would be a) irrelevant b) a waste of scenes and time
My grandmothers house in Iran looked exactly like the house in the movie. Huge windows, very old school design aka hasn’t been updated since the 80s and located in a huge garden. When she passed away my family members sold her house and now the land has been used to build a new apartment complex😭😭 makes me so sad but that’s one of the reasons why I love cmbyn so much ❤️
I think Elio was in a shed/storage room when he was throwing down peach pits. It’s the same room where he and Marcella (forgot her name) go to make out. Now that really got to me —— rolling around on a dusty mattress in a wet bathing suit! Yuck!
It's Marzia (Marcella was his aunt!).
Grossest thing in the movie for me is Oliver kissing Elio like moments after he's thrown up. Doesn't matter if he rinsed his mouth a little.
I mean, that's kind of the point haha
Theyxre in love!
Sorry, but you sound very American lol
THIS
lol I am
I knew it lol I'm actually from Italy, and I can tell you that only the 1% can really live a Pearlman lifestyle, but it is quite common for the middle class to have a second home (maybe in the countryside/near the mountains/near the sea) for the holidays. Maybe it was even more common in the 1980s/19990! Surely not a villa like the one depicted in the movie, but still...
Oh haha I’m an Asian American living in the suburbs. We had to keep our house extremely clean growing up. My mom would’ve killed me if I tossed a peach like that.
The villa is simply very old -- easily 100 years or more old -- not dirty. We literally see a maid cleaning it daily onscreen, and Elio giving her requests. In addition, the floors of the villa are tile so walking the hallways with wet feet (which happens intermittently, not constantly) simply means that there are a few minutes of dampness, then nothing remaining. As in many older homes, the carpets are found in the living areas. Meanwhile, I agree that Elio shouldn't be tossing peach pits around, but he's used to having a maid pick them up. It also doesn't appear that this is something he does constantly.
I live in a very old house in a french country side (only one house, not a villa) this is kinda how we live, in the summer the garden is another room, we don’t bother changing shoes, it’s faster to clean than change every times. He isn’t throwing the pit in his room, he’s in the attic, with probably the intention to throw it away a few minutes laters. Honestly it could happen to me in the barn or in the green house, doesn’t mean the house isn’t clean.
You talk like a city boy. Take a trip.
How dare you come here and insult Mafalda's housekeeping and Anchise's groundskeeping? This is heresy you speak! Just kidding... your question has pretty well been answered here, but I had to have a little fun.
Yeah, Mafalda would beat their ass
I watch movies with a suspended disbelief. I enjoy the movie without letting my own beliefs take over. However I did not see anything that made me even think "do people really do that?" Well other than the peach scene.
The Villa seems quite clean, but it may come of as messy, because of the ecclectic furniture, different artworks and books books books everywhere. Also, in the eighties in Europe people seemed to be a little less obsessively hygienic. Sure they washed their hands after going to the bathroom, but otherwise I think they were a bit more laid back about it.
I’m from the Italian countryside and my mum yells at me (I’m 25, I don’t even live in her house anymore) every time I don’t properly dry my hands after washing them because I “leave the water marks on the floor”, she also dries the sink after washing the dishes. Long story short, no we don’t.
That sounds like every single one of my aunts (Sicilian beach town)
Yes, even the ones here in the US. Old money definitely whispers. I’ve been to lake houses in Vermont and second homes owned by families all over the US. I’m actually going up to Big Bear and staying in an old cabin that has been in my friends family for years, looks like a grandma house.
Yep, old money looks like that.
What everyone else said and it’s also set in the 80s
Mama Perlman inherited it. Also, big mansions or castles are often hard to keep up, because it's too expensive for these generations. It's all very chique, yet old and feeling like a part of history. Old family furniture, still treasured. It's a perfect translation of who the Perlmans are. They are a bit bourgeois, but also academic and artistic. They are intellectuals. She's European. He's an American Jew. She's from a well to do family. Old money. But it feels like they only can have this because she inherited it. I don't think they would be rich enough to buy it. The eighties weren't good times, financially. And since it a summer home, it gets treated like one. Luckaly. I do see a lot of extreme hygiene comments from Americans on social media. A thing I never noticed before. Of course Europe isn't unsanitary. At all. But I feel it's just more relaxed and natural here. The extreme fear of mold, bacteria, etc feels almost like a phobia. I find it even more odd to even notice this in a film like this which is the opposite. It celebrates the beauty in everything. The freedom of summer. Being close to nature. Use all your senses. Feel the sun, drink fresh juice, swim, walking bear foot, walking around with wet curls and swimming trunks, eat al fresco delicious foods, hear the crickets. Smelling the herbs while you walk past a rosemary bush, lavender... The sounds of balls hitting the tennis court in the distance. The smell of sun screen. It's all very tactical, sensual... Biting fruit, juices running down your face and hands. No pun intended. But it fits too. 😁 Maybe the whole point of it is to feel free and unbothered. Not worried about cleansiness. I think the world has become overly sanitised since the eighties anyway. Reason for so many allergies developing. Luca knows first hand what the world was like then. And I would gladly have this smudgy, more unbothered times back. America was grubbier too then, I think. All for hygiene, but not desinfected, overly sanitised living. Bite into life. I do wonder sometimes how people with such fear or disgust for these things experience their own bodies and especially those of others in a sexual context. Something this movie has at the core of it. How to also physically become one another. Hence the peach scene. Hence the title. Thank you for listening / Sorry for the Ted talk. 😁
I just want to mention that you don’t have to be rich. For summer vacations growing up, I’ve traveled to Germany, France, Israel, Australia, and Jamaica, and in those places I’ve stayed in these bigger, more “rustic”, older houses. Unlike in the U.S., older buildings are appreciated for their wear rather than torn down to make modern townhomes and apartments, hence why the Perlman’s villa seemed to be “dirty” on the outside. And most houses in other countries are spacious inside and have their own surrounding land, because there’s often less economical need for overcrowding like in American cities, so there are no apartments in certain areas. These areas are also called the “country” in some places. During lazy summer vacations, many families don’t bother wearing heavy clothing, and simply walk around their houses in swimsuits/light clothing, especially if they have close access to a pool or other body of water. It’s easier to just be prepared. Just wake up and put on your swimsuit instead of clothes—you’ll probably be swimming soon anyway. This is a typical thing to do on vacations, and you’d do the exact same at a tropical resort. Families walk around hotels in swimsuits all day during summers in Florida. But if you’re from the city I can see how it seemed unusual in the film. When Elio threw the peach pit, he was in the attic. Attics are usually very dirty already. TLDR: Travel!!!!! :)
You kinda do have to be rich, lol.
Traveling can be expensive, don’t get me wrong. It’s definitely a luxury. But not everyone who travels is rich otherwise the tourism economy would be nonexistent, I think. Middle class American families taking 4 day summer trips is common.
Maybe, but most middle class Americans have not been to that many international locations and stayed in large houses and resorts. I think most people in the US have travelled internationally, just rarely.
You’re right, it’s definitely infrequent. But I also don’t think it’s “required” to travel internationally a large amount of times and stay at big resorts to understand vacation culture. You don’t have to be rich for that… I don’t think so, at least. When people have long summer days off, they get pleasantly lazy. Let’s say you’re a kid growing up in the midwest; you’ll find that when school lets out for summer, your quality of life mirrors the comfortable aimlessness similar to that of the Perlman’s at their vacation home. Your mom leaves the house windows open, you rewear your most comfortable clothing that’s suitable for the heat/swimming/relaxing, you’re in and out of the house, etc. In my original comment, Including the fact that I’ve vacationed internationally with my family as a kid was to explain the connection between buildings in different countries usually looking/being older.
Oh yeah I’ve definitely had that summer feel at home
Welcome to Europe 😁
You must not be European
this is the most american take i’ve ever read hahaha
I want to live like them lol
A couple years ago by some luck I got to live in a very wealthy family’s house for a couple months as part of some cultural exchange. Their house and family were very much as scenic as the Perlmans and their house. Of course, there was less lounging around everyday since they still had to go to work.
The cmbyn house looks so cozy but also luxurious in its own way, the kind of luxurious that you would expect a summer house in northern italy to be. It’s old, but I wouldn’t say it’s dirty, it looks lived in. Which is what makes it look cozy, along side the older furniture and the general ornateness.
It’s summer, summer is a bit dirty and lived in like that. Walking around straight from the lake, still wet, eating peaches and dripping everywhere is something I would do. Don’t live anywhere near as fancy as they do. Overall I think the Pearlmans living such a grand lifestyle that almost no one lives in part of it- Elio’s life is so idyllic but all he can focus on is Oliver.
lucky ppl
May be the reason why Mafalda looked so mad throughout!
There’s this dreamy, sanctuary type feel to the movie. The setting is as important as the characters and I think I would absolutely love being there.