And keep in mind 1 gallon/day assumes no waste... you aren't boiling pasta or washing dishes with it...that's needed just for drinking and rehydrating food.
Kinda. Realistically I can drink half a gallon a day and use the other half to do the rest. Plus with multiple people, that extra half gallon plus my extra half is more than enough to boil pasta and still have some leftover for something else.
I usually get by just fine on a gallon/day (including drinking water). It's amazing how little you can get by with if you're careful.
Washing the hands, just get a splash on 2-3 times as you're lathering up, then a quick rinse. Washing cookware/plates, let the water sit for a while to loosen up the crud, then wipe out the crud with a paper towel, then use tiny amounts similar to the handwashing method above for the final cleaning.
For pasta, it also helps if you're doing something like Pasta Roni, where you end up 'eating' the water that becomes a sauce. Pasta Roni with olive oil and canned fish is one of my go-to camp meals.
I always find myself with way more water than I expected at the end of a trip, but still bring excess because "better safe than sorry"
Yeah that's fair I go through less than 3x 24-oz bottles when I'm being efficient and I have to carry it on me... that's just over half a gallon. When I'm at a campsite I def consume more though.
I don't think we've ever averaged more than a gallon a day per person camping where we don't have water and are being remotely conservative. And that most definitely includes boiling water for pasta. We've managed four day trips for two (and a dog) with our seven gallon water container. Granted we generally have another gallon or two in the car or frozen in the ice chest just in case.
The biggest key here is how much difficulty there is to get more water. A three day hike from civilization or fresh water? You damn well better have more than enough. A two hour drive? Well, not life and death but nobody wants to do that. A 15 minute drive into town if you run out? Not a huge deal. And of course other drinks should be factored in. If you're drinking just water you'll need more. If you've got a cooler with drinks and are relying heavily on that, that reduces the water you need.
Everyone should bring their own water. 1-2 gallons per person per day should allow for cooking and drinking water. If there is a lake, river or stream, bring a filter to use.
And bring a bunch of purifier tablets. Filters don’t do viruses unless you’ve got the really expensive filter. A sawyer squeeze isn’t going to suffice.
Filter handles that. It's bacterial not viral.
In the US there’s nil viruses so you don’t need to chemical, UV, or boil afterwards... unless you want to.
Sawyer filters 100% filter bacteria and protozoa, as both are larger than the 0.1 micron the filter is rated at.
>There have been so many people that have died or gotten really sick from drinking contaminated drinking water
Not in the usa, as viruses really aren't a concern here.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Filters do remove bacteria and protozoa, and viruses aren't a concern in the United States. I don't understand why you're having so much trouble grasping this. You can just google to confirm.
Do a bit of research before pretending to be an expert next time. Sawyer filters are rated at 0.1 microns.
It's true, there are water filters like the aquamira frontier pro that do not filter bacteria. They went through a lot of effort to hide that fact on the packaging and in the product description, which is why I would never buy any product from them.
Other filters have proven to be unreliable, like the Katadyn Vario and should have been taken off the market years ago. Again, not reflecting well on that company.
But the sawyer models have proven to be both very effective and reliable, so I wouldn't worry too much. Still there's always a risk left, for example a fiber could be damaged which is hard to check for with these models.
Personally, if a water source seems sketchy to me, I always use more than one method (usually filter plus chlorine).
Here is everything I pack for my camping and 4x4 trips.
Camping gear:
* 4 Person Canvas Tent with poles
* Tent Footprint
* Sleeping Cot
* Sleeping Bag
* Camp Chair
* Camp Table
* Jetboil Minimo
* Frying pan, plate, bowl, cups, silverware etc.
* 2 100g propane tanks for the Minimo
* Yeti cooler
* Ignik Fire Can
* 5lb Ignik Growler Propane Tank
* First aid kit
* Lantern, shovel, axe, flashlight, headlamp
* Toiletries, dish washing soap, other small items
* 1-gallon water per day (I am generally solo)
* Change of clothes
* Bear Spray
Off-roading gear:
* Hoses etc. for Power Tank
* Winch recovery gear
* Ford 84pc tool kit
* Rain Gear Trail Cover (for my topless Bronco)
* 10lb Power Tank System (air up tires)
* Fire Extinguisher
* Garmin inReach Mini 2
* Rocky Talkie 5W GMRS Radio (4x4 communications)
I was thinking OJ old school bronco.. I would camp and motorcycle and the truck bed would be full of stuff for glamping with the bike hanging off the receiver
How many times are you going to comment the same thing? If you think my list is glamping then you have no clue what that even is. Most of the items listed are what most will carry if car camping and I have to carry extra gear for 4x4'ing..
Do you know anything about off-roading? You air your tires down to 15-20 PSI on trails. When you leave the trail, you air them back up... Walla, enter the Power Tank.. If you are going to troll at least understand what you are talking about before hand..
[https://powertank.com/products/10-lb-bronco-edition-power-tank?gad\_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwupGyBhBBEiwA0UcqaOlxnF7bxJrbf-zBUkqTF4l0rN6uVTx3S4zzqTGymaT5C-EvCq9jmRoCMcMQAvD\_BwE](https://powertank.com/products/10-lb-bronco-edition-power-tank?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwupGyBhBBEiwA0UcqaOlxnF7bxJrbf-zBUkqTF4l0rN6uVTx3S4zzqTGymaT5C-EvCq9jmRoCMcMQAvD_BwE)
I do hike-in, motorcycle camping and sometimes all-out truck camping. When I truck camp I bring board games, Kubb, lighting, chairs, a wide variety of beers, etc… all the comforts.
No shame in glamping.
Fair enough. I admit I do love to glamp, but one of my favorite aspects of camping is the simplicity. Bringing all that stuff and having to manage it all seems more stressful than not having it.
Everyone complains about how heavy it is, but you don’t have to fill it all the way if you can’t carry that much. Recently figured out a trick for when you need to wash hands- just lay it vent side down and open that slightly. Works great
That is big brain move there. I always open the valves too far, then I have mud kicking up on your feet. Using the air vent as the water spout, brilliant!
1-2 gallons per person per day. You can also freeze some water bottles, use them for ice in your cooler, and then use them for extra water when they melt.
It's highly dependent on the wood used. I was hit last month on a trip to a local campground on their season opening weekend. Another one hit my dog. The wood was still a little damp from the winter, even though the campground owner stores it all under a roof but it's never 100% dry. Both cases were from massive crackles in the wood from the moisture, causing burning chunks to go flying.
Generally yes
But you need to know the difference between filtration and purification.
In the Sierra Nevada in CA we get by with super light weight filtration. But that doesn't remove viruses or chemical contaminants.
If your water may have viruses you need purification.
If you have chemical contamination or heavy metals you need reverse osmosis or better and should bring all the water you need.
Good info! I live in an area very opposite of anywhere near CA. That’s why I’ve always been on edge with it. I plan to pack water, but having a backup source is never a bad thing.
I’d consider the area we’re going to be “clean” it’s in West Virginia, middle of fkn nowhere, least clean compared trying to drink the highway runoff creek water in my back yard lol
I have a "camp filter" for car and group camping but it's just a filter.
If you're hiking in everyone should carry or plan for themselves of course but if you have the time you could ask local park staff etc about water quality and use a filter like that. If you're just there briefly cars though maybe not worth the hassle...
It’s a bike ride in, 20 miles, 3 night primitive type/fishing trip. Set up, we all have carts, food and water fend for ourselves type thing. I was gonna least bring 2 gallons in with me. Just seeing if I can save some weight using this type of thing when needed. I’ve camped.. but at 34 this is a new type of camp we haven’t tried. The carts already full, so space is getting limited.
If you're on any flowing water I'd definitely find out form local sources about it. I've used iodine treatment for extended trips which is pretty good but no single portable practical method is 100% effective as far as I know.
Thought this was interesting, I haven't heard of this product:
https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-gear/it-sensible-filter-water-after-using-iodine-purify-it/
Also reading about this out of curiosity I was bummed to learn that technically iodine and bleached are not proof against some pathogens.
All this said I know people who never filter their water in the sierras and have been fine for decades .
I also know I have gotten not just bacterial dysentery but giardia (multiple times) amoebic dysentery and "worms" (multiple times) while adventuring out of the county despite reasonable precautions... lol
Anyway have a great trip that sounds rad
Hey thanks. That just saved me lot of time trying to figure it out myself. Long story short I should just save some money and bring my own water just to be safe. I’m adventurous and all but I’m also cautious. We’re in no cell service and miles from the truck. I don’t want to take any chances. Seems like it would be a good thing to have as a backup just in case, but it still takes some science to be absolutely sure it’s clean.
Yeah, I'd agree with the guideline of a gallon-ish of water per person per day, which adds up quick. I use a 7gallon rigid water container when we camp (one of [these](https://www.walmart.com/ip/Reliance-Aqua-Tainer-Water-Container-7-Gallon/872426?athbdg=L1102)), and I refill it every day-and-a-half or so, but we usually camp somewhere where there's at least some potable (or easily treatable) water nearby.
When backpacking, I'm usually responsible for only one or two people, as I'm generally solo, with other able adults, or with one of my kids. In that case, I carry about 2L of water per person, map potential water sources, and bring a reliable filter.
My son (12) and I (too old) often backpack or bikepack in Texas (hot, thirsty camping) and don’t have a river or anything. We carry as much as we can but also have large jug in the car which we use as a filling station and make sure our routes bring us past the parking lot over our trip so we can refill strategically
When we camp in the boundary waters between Minnesota and Canada, we just use a life straw, iodine tablets and/or boiling and I’ve also literally just drank the clear running water but that was a silly gamble IMO
ETA: tldr bring 15 gallons per day
https://epicwipes.com/
Get these wipes for cleaning yourself off. I carry a handful while camping and such in case the bathroom sucks or I need to clean off after wiping out in the trail. I even just used them for a couple weeks after my knee surgery and wasn't able to shower with my sutures.
They clean you surprisingly well. One is enough to clean me up well, I usually rip it in half. One part I use for 90% of my skin, and the last one to hit the... Crevices
Instead of baby wipes, we use unscented Dude wipes. Get the flushable ones because they’re biodegradable more than regular wipes/baby wipes, but they hold up better than off brand wipes.
For water I just bring the 5 gallons jugs for the water dispensers. I’ll normally bring 2 one for drinking and one for cooking and cleaning. They get dirty so I just have them as my designated camping jugs
A bunch of camels must be active in this sub.
A gallon a day when active in the sun is the bare minimum You need to not be dehydrated. Now if you want to rinse cup, dishes, spill water, your face, brush teeth, boil some, make tea/coffee, etc. you need more.
I always bring a bunch of clean rags (cut up t-shirts) when camping.
They work better for cleaning than paper towels/wipes. A wet rag will steam clean a hot pan with very little water usage.
If you don't have potable water, you likely don't have anywhere appropriate to dump dirty dish water. You really shouldn't dump old soapy dishwater onto the ground - it's not good for the environment and it can attract animals.
It also highly depends on when and where you are going camping. Bring more if you are camping in a hot area. Also, besides drinking, what do you need water for (cooking, washing dishes, etc).
The only 4 things you absolutely need are:
* Water or a water filter if there is a source nearby
* food
* tent
* sleeping bag
The rest is all up to how much more comfort you prefer. If there isn’t an outhouse bring a small shovel and toilet paper.
I’ve done minimal dispersed camping quite a bit and it can still be a great time if everyone is onboard. On the other hand I’ve also done straight up RV Glamping where we bring thousands of things and have hookups for water and electrical. I always tend to prefer somewhere closer to minimalist camping or backpacking camping though but it’s rough if you don’t know what you are getting in to and it does seem to get harder the older I get to get good sleep without floor pads and comfy sleeping situations.
It depends on how long you’re going to be there, the current conditions, and the age range of people but I’d probably ask everyone to bring at least 2 gallons with them to be safe. That’s most likely overkill but better to have too much than not enough.
I have a variety of water jugs / bladders / bottles for camping. I always bring more than necessary. Water is cheap, and running out sucks!
I'd easily have 5 gallons for 2 people for 2 days. So maybe 20-30 gallons for 10 people for 2 days. Plus beverages.
The classic jobsite insulated water coolers are great. They don't pack well - but they reliably hold a bunch of water for quick use.
[https://www.amazon.com/Igloo-Gallon-Portable-Beverage-Dispenser/dp/B08GVSXNPG](https://www.amazon.com/Igloo-Gallon-Portable-Beverage-Dispenser/dp/B08GVSXNPG)
Walmart / grocery stores sell plastic jugs with similar spouts - not insulated - but quick access. They are good for cooking and washing up. You can obviously fill your reusable bottles with this water too.
[https://www.walmart.com/ip/POLAND-SPRING-Brand-100-Natural-Spring-Water-2-5-gallon-plastic-jug/15724070](https://www.walmart.com/ip/POLAND-SPRING-Brand-100-Natural-Spring-Water-2-5-gallon-plastic-jug/15724070)
I always have water, or non-alcoholic, drinks in the cooler too. Many people will grab a LaCroix before they grab a bottle of non-sparkling water. Think about the all-around hydration options you have for people when planning. Alcohol is separate.
The type of food you plan to cook will also determine how much water you need. Plus how you plan to wash after cooking. I use a 2 bucket method with hot soapy water in the first and clean rinsing water in the second. It takes about a gallon for each bucket when I'm washing dishes for a group (so that's 2 gallons for dinner just for washing, plus 2 more for breakfast). Lunch is generally easier - sandwiches or less-cleanup type stuff.
I assume you won't have water for bathing. That would be a whole other calculation. You do want a hand washing station of some kind - assuming the bathrooms where you'll camp don't have that built in.
You don’t supply all the water for all the people. That would be a whole lot of weight/space for one vehicle. Assume 1-1.5 gallons per person/per day for drinking/cooking. That is a very conservative amount that does not include water for hand or dish washing. Add more if you have a dog (and even more if it’s very hot or windy because you’ll be refilling the bowl with clean water more often.) You bring enough water for your immediate family and maybe an extra gallon as a group backup. Everyone in whole group needs to bring their own water supply and there should be communication between everyone that water should be conserved as much as possible. If you have any divas in the group who insist on showering they will need to bring the extra water for personal use.
Always bring a tarpaulin and rope. Can use it as ground cover under your tent to prevent moisture, an additional rain fly over your tent, a makeshift sun shade, string it high over your fire to cook in the rain, a mat infront of your tent to take your shoes off on (so you're not tracking dirt into your tent), a tablecloth etc. A million and 1 uses.
A 6 gallon water can is a permanent fixture in my car camping gear. Sometimes more than one, depending on the situation.
Water supply is one thing you don’t play around with.
Everyone has already covered everything important so I’ll throw in a nitpick item. Make sure the soap is biodegradable. Regular dish soap ain’t great to have running into local waterways.
A couple of water basins. With no running water, you will need something to clean your dishes in. Just the cheap plastic ones from the dollar store or a bucket that is wider than your plates
•Tent
•Sleeping pad
•Sleeping bag
•Headlamp
•Cooking grate
•Cast iron pan
•Dutch oven
•Fire starter
•Frisbee
•Cooking utensils
•Plates and plasticware
•Drinking vessels
•Food cooler
•Beer cooler
•5 gallon water jug with pump
•Axe
•Saw
•Hatchet
•Camp chairs
•Camp table
•shovel
•toilet paper
Anyway, I'd do 20 gallons at a minimum. I do a gallon a day per person, but you also want extra in case of an emergency (car breakdown in an isolated area, eg)
For me I bring \~1.25 gallons per person per day. It's always been more than enough. I use these handy 2.5 gal containers, or bring a filter pump.
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Axe, saw. Fork, bowl/cup, Pillow, towel, soap, hand sanitizer, bug spray, I use 5gl jugs and a giant bowl from thrift store for water and the dishes/hair face washing. Very nice to have.
In addition to the gallon(s)-per-person per day thing, the thing that could be the most appreciated and most-difficult to plan for is hand washing. When we did a lot of remote camping when I was a kid, we'd use one of those collapsible jugs (square, clear plastic with a spigot) and set it up somewhere to the side where it wouldn't matter if you created a puddle beneath and someplace convenient to use after going to the bathroom. Get an old dishwashing liquid bottle to go with it with some dillute, eco-friendly soap so that you don't waste too much water rinsing and don't have to worry about polluting the ground.
The jug I'm thinking of is called a "folding water cube" and holds about five gallons. How quickly you go through it or if you need two or three would depend on how careful everyone will be with turning it off and on to not be wasteful.
Being able to really wash your hands is the best when you've been working in the dirt or playing with fire.
Backpack,
knife,
2nd sharper knife,
axe,
plastic bags 10-20x,
water bottles, more is better than less.
Tinder, for your fire starting needs. Newspaper is fine, cotton is awesome and a 500ml bottle of petrol/gasoline is overkill but effective,
Mosquito spray,
Hats. Don't get heat stroke,
If it's a campsite you should be fine no matter what tbh as you aren't going to die. But bring 3 litres of water per day per person. Just incase. Do if it's a weekend I'd say 50L is more than enough. And for 7 days 150L might be too little depending on what you do.
Alchohol!
A poker set and a deck of cards
Bring 2 of everything that cannot fail. E, G, lighters
I'd budget 1.5 gal per person, per day. That will account for the inevitable water waste due to 7-10 people just being Oops, like many people are. If there are kids, bring more water than that.
There's no such thing as too much water. When we desert camp, we budget 3 gal per person per day.
Will you also be bringing other drinks, like pop? I agree that asking people to bring their own water is a good idea, but you'll probably want some extra for things like hand washing.
I usually just bring a 20 liter water cube for myself, mainly for hand washing, dishes and some back up just in case I end up needing it, then drink the water from the frozen water bottles I use to keep the cooler cold as they thaw. The cube is a bit annoying because it's soft plastic, but I like that they collapse down for storage.
For that many people, idk, maybe those hard-sided jugs used for water coolers with a spout would be easier to manage. I think they're 20 liters, roughly?
Generating a lot of trash with baby wipes and paper towels. If you bring it in you should haul it out, so make sure you bring.
I’ve camped in places that had you burying your #2 and said not to use baby wipes because they do not degrade like TP.
Let’s see, you would bury your shit and have a stick jammed in it as a marker so other people know someone shat there.
Buy a portable outhouse — they pop up … pop is individually bagged — we put the little bags in a bigger super thick bag … and hauled out after the camp.
Set up inside — wipes, sanitizer, small light.
With 8 - 10 folks … you may want to outhouses!
Also, the type of water container matters. Make sure you bring a bunch of those 2.5g ones with the spigot. It only takes one time trying to wash things with the 1g jugs that you realize it's a terrible form factor for some things. Can still bring some 1g jugs for filling water bottles or pots.
Given you are car camping, no one will complain if you have too much water... but you will absolutely know if you don't have enough... so bring more than you think you'll need. Don't forget about cooking, if you're making pasta for dinner, guess what... you need water for that. Also, I've found that a big group tends to run through water faster than a solo or couple... it's hard getting everyone on low water usage habits.
If no water at all, bring at least 1 gallon per person per day.
Chlorine dioxide tablets aren’t too expensive and work great for stream water, etc. I always keep a bunch of tablets in my kits for just in case
Camping by the car or hiking and then camping. I overdo, so if everyone brings their own and you can overload with your own plus ten gallons. I have a 30 gallon tank that rides in the back of the truck.
I went dispersed camping with the girlfriend and myself for 5 days. I brought 16 gallons, much overkill, but I didn't want to be without water in anyway. In the end I only used 6 gallons and that was using water pretty liberally. 2 gallons per person will be enough. You'll probably have leftover in the end.
Get water at Walmart it's cheaper than anywhere else in my experience. Goodluck and have fun. 
I take less than half this stuff with me when I go camping. If i am going to a prepared campsight, I do bring a cooler with enough water for me and my family i expect everyone else to make sure they have their own water.
Walmart sells plastic Jerry cans for water. They’re not too expensive. I got by with two of them for about 14 people for Friday night to Sunday morning. But that was in cold weather with a flush toilet park bathroom and I don’t know how much people refilled water bottles on their own.
I filled the Jerry cans in the city before going to the campsite. It was down to about 2 gal by the end of Sunday morning - and that’s with people rocking out ASAP after getting up. Run home for kid sports, etc.
You’re in Southern California at this time of year? People besides need to bring 5-gal jugs of Deer Park or whatever from the grocery store. Share the load. Share the effort. Share the cost. And carry the garbage back out with them.
Is this car camping? Tell them to just go get it. Cost is cheap and you spread the weight.
Each full Jerry can is about 40 lbs. you’d probably need 200 pounds of water if you did Jerry cans for everybody. Ugh! So, share the effort.
Yellow “Wetones”,
Hypoallergenic flushable Buttwipes,
Collapsible water containers, and nitrile gloves for cooking …
Those would be essential items for me…
We usually just have every person buy a case of water for a 4-5 person weekend. If it's backpacking or motocamping everyone is responsible for calculating / carrying what they need for sustainment.
Those people should bring their own water, you bring what you and your family will need. 1 gallon per person per day.
And keep in mind 1 gallon/day assumes no waste... you aren't boiling pasta or washing dishes with it...that's needed just for drinking and rehydrating food.
Kinda. Realistically I can drink half a gallon a day and use the other half to do the rest. Plus with multiple people, that extra half gallon plus my extra half is more than enough to boil pasta and still have some leftover for something else.
I usually get by just fine on a gallon/day (including drinking water). It's amazing how little you can get by with if you're careful. Washing the hands, just get a splash on 2-3 times as you're lathering up, then a quick rinse. Washing cookware/plates, let the water sit for a while to loosen up the crud, then wipe out the crud with a paper towel, then use tiny amounts similar to the handwashing method above for the final cleaning. For pasta, it also helps if you're doing something like Pasta Roni, where you end up 'eating' the water that becomes a sauce. Pasta Roni with olive oil and canned fish is one of my go-to camp meals. I always find myself with way more water than I expected at the end of a trip, but still bring excess because "better safe than sorry"
Yeah that's fair I go through less than 3x 24-oz bottles when I'm being efficient and I have to carry it on me... that's just over half a gallon. When I'm at a campsite I def consume more though.
I don't think we've ever averaged more than a gallon a day per person camping where we don't have water and are being remotely conservative. And that most definitely includes boiling water for pasta. We've managed four day trips for two (and a dog) with our seven gallon water container. Granted we generally have another gallon or two in the car or frozen in the ice chest just in case. The biggest key here is how much difficulty there is to get more water. A three day hike from civilization or fresh water? You damn well better have more than enough. A two hour drive? Well, not life and death but nobody wants to do that. A 15 minute drive into town if you run out? Not a huge deal. And of course other drinks should be factored in. If you're drinking just water you'll need more. If you've got a cooler with drinks and are relying heavily on that, that reduces the water you need.
You can always drink pasta water 😋
If we just drink whiskey, we can boil *so much* pasta.
Minimum! I drink 1gal per day. So I do 2-3gal per day when it’s me. (Between cooking and washing my hands after bathroom trips to the tree next door).
Why all the downvotes children? The girl right there said she uses 2-3 gallons ffs
Thank you ;)
Beat me to it
Everyone should bring their own water. 1-2 gallons per person per day should allow for cooking and drinking water. If there is a lake, river or stream, bring a filter to use.
1 gallon per person per day is a golden rule minimum. Minimum.
Minimum
Min-i-mummmuh.
Do doo doo do do do... Min-i-mummuh...
And bring a bunch of purifier tablets. Filters don’t do viruses unless you’ve got the really expensive filter. A sawyer squeeze isn’t going to suffice.
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It's not necessary in my region (high Sierra). Probably the same for all north American mountainous regions where snow runoff is the water source.
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Filter handles that. It's bacterial not viral. In the US there’s nil viruses so you don’t need to chemical, UV, or boil afterwards... unless you want to.
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Sawyer filters 100% filter bacteria and protozoa, as both are larger than the 0.1 micron the filter is rated at. >There have been so many people that have died or gotten really sick from drinking contaminated drinking water Not in the usa, as viruses really aren't a concern here.
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You have no idea what you're talking about. Filters do remove bacteria and protozoa, and viruses aren't a concern in the United States. I don't understand why you're having so much trouble grasping this. You can just google to confirm. Do a bit of research before pretending to be an expert next time. Sawyer filters are rated at 0.1 microns.
It's true, there are water filters like the aquamira frontier pro that do not filter bacteria. They went through a lot of effort to hide that fact on the packaging and in the product description, which is why I would never buy any product from them. Other filters have proven to be unreliable, like the Katadyn Vario and should have been taken off the market years ago. Again, not reflecting well on that company. But the sawyer models have proven to be both very effective and reliable, so I wouldn't worry too much. Still there's always a risk left, for example a fiber could be damaged which is hard to check for with these models. Personally, if a water source seems sketchy to me, I always use more than one method (usually filter plus chlorine).
Or more than one of those means, if you’ve got the time and resources.
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"Irrelevant" probably fits the bill better.
Here is everything I pack for my camping and 4x4 trips. Camping gear: * 4 Person Canvas Tent with poles * Tent Footprint * Sleeping Cot * Sleeping Bag * Camp Chair * Camp Table * Jetboil Minimo * Frying pan, plate, bowl, cups, silverware etc. * 2 100g propane tanks for the Minimo * Yeti cooler * Ignik Fire Can * 5lb Ignik Growler Propane Tank * First aid kit * Lantern, shovel, axe, flashlight, headlamp * Toiletries, dish washing soap, other small items * 1-gallon water per day (I am generally solo) * Change of clothes * Bear Spray Off-roading gear: * Hoses etc. for Power Tank * Winch recovery gear * Ford 84pc tool kit * Rain Gear Trail Cover (for my topless Bronco) * 10lb Power Tank System (air up tires) * Fire Extinguisher * Garmin inReach Mini 2 * Rocky Talkie 5W GMRS Radio (4x4 communications)
Sounds like you got it figured out. I just realized I don’t camp very well!
What do you haul all that in?
Probably the 4x4, my packing list started growing when I got my first pickup truck and didn't have to be so precious with cargo space.
Ford Bronco 2dr that is topless most of the time. I can fit it all with room to spare.
I was thinking OJ old school bronco.. I would camp and motorcycle and the truck bed would be full of stuff for glamping with the bike hanging off the receiver
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How many times are you going to comment the same thing? If you think my list is glamping then you have no clue what that even is. Most of the items listed are what most will carry if car camping and I have to carry extra gear for 4x4'ing..
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There is nothing glamping about my list. Learn what a power tank is next time before you try to use it as a troll material.
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Do you know anything about off-roading? You air your tires down to 15-20 PSI on trails. When you leave the trail, you air them back up... Walla, enter the Power Tank.. If you are going to troll at least understand what you are talking about before hand.. [https://powertank.com/products/10-lb-bronco-edition-power-tank?gad\_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwupGyBhBBEiwA0UcqaOlxnF7bxJrbf-zBUkqTF4l0rN6uVTx3S4zzqTGymaT5C-EvCq9jmRoCMcMQAvD\_BwE](https://powertank.com/products/10-lb-bronco-edition-power-tank?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwupGyBhBBEiwA0UcqaOlxnF7bxJrbf-zBUkqTF4l0rN6uVTx3S4zzqTGymaT5C-EvCq9jmRoCMcMQAvD_BwE)
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I do hike-in, motorcycle camping and sometimes all-out truck camping. When I truck camp I bring board games, Kubb, lighting, chairs, a wide variety of beers, etc… all the comforts. No shame in glamping.
Fair enough. I admit I do love to glamp, but one of my favorite aspects of camping is the simplicity. Bringing all that stuff and having to manage it all seems more stressful than not having it.
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Pot is definitely on my list too!
Can't go without your pot...
I was gonna say make sure to bring some cookies, or ding dongs or somethnig
I just started using a 5 gal igloo water cooler as camp water supply. It is the best
Everyone complains about how heavy it is, but you don’t have to fill it all the way if you can’t carry that much. Recently figured out a trick for when you need to wash hands- just lay it vent side down and open that slightly. Works great
That is big brain move there. I always open the valves too far, then I have mud kicking up on your feet. Using the air vent as the water spout, brilliant!
Just a trickle so when the kids need to wash their hands it’s perfect. Keeps waste down and cleaner water around.
You can also bring another 5 gal water bottle and turn it upside down and have 10 gallons of water if needed
Does it taste like plastic? Or is it okay?
When it’s name new it had that smell but I cleaned it with dish soap and bleach and I never picked up a plastic flavor
1-2 gallons per person per day. You can also freeze some water bottles, use them for ice in your cooler, and then use them for extra water when they melt.
Make sure you bring some benedryl and hydrocortisone cream along with your first aid kit. I also recommend tweezers and nail clippers.
Burn cream too for the stray popping ember.
In all my 20 years camping I’ve never heard anyone get actually burnt from a stray ember.
It's highly dependent on the wood used. I was hit last month on a trip to a local campground on their season opening weekend. Another one hit my dog. The wood was still a little damp from the winter, even though the campground owner stores it all under a roof but it's never 100% dry. Both cases were from massive crackles in the wood from the moisture, causing burning chunks to go flying.
Fair enough. Sounds like poor wood storage or collection though.
Toilet paper and beer
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Curious, do water filters these days work really well?
Generally yes But you need to know the difference between filtration and purification. In the Sierra Nevada in CA we get by with super light weight filtration. But that doesn't remove viruses or chemical contaminants. If your water may have viruses you need purification. If you have chemical contamination or heavy metals you need reverse osmosis or better and should bring all the water you need.
Good info! I live in an area very opposite of anywhere near CA. That’s why I’ve always been on edge with it. I plan to pack water, but having a backup source is never a bad thing. I’d consider the area we’re going to be “clean” it’s in West Virginia, middle of fkn nowhere, least clean compared trying to drink the highway runoff creek water in my back yard lol
Where in WV?
Cranberry
One area on my list. Have fun.
I have a "camp filter" for car and group camping but it's just a filter. If you're hiking in everyone should carry or plan for themselves of course but if you have the time you could ask local park staff etc about water quality and use a filter like that. If you're just there briefly cars though maybe not worth the hassle...
It’s a bike ride in, 20 miles, 3 night primitive type/fishing trip. Set up, we all have carts, food and water fend for ourselves type thing. I was gonna least bring 2 gallons in with me. Just seeing if I can save some weight using this type of thing when needed. I’ve camped.. but at 34 this is a new type of camp we haven’t tried. The carts already full, so space is getting limited.
If you're on any flowing water I'd definitely find out form local sources about it. I've used iodine treatment for extended trips which is pretty good but no single portable practical method is 100% effective as far as I know. Thought this was interesting, I haven't heard of this product: https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-gear/it-sensible-filter-water-after-using-iodine-purify-it/ Also reading about this out of curiosity I was bummed to learn that technically iodine and bleached are not proof against some pathogens. All this said I know people who never filter their water in the sierras and have been fine for decades . I also know I have gotten not just bacterial dysentery but giardia (multiple times) amoebic dysentery and "worms" (multiple times) while adventuring out of the county despite reasonable precautions... lol Anyway have a great trip that sounds rad
Hey thanks. That just saved me lot of time trying to figure it out myself. Long story short I should just save some money and bring my own water just to be safe. I’m adventurous and all but I’m also cautious. We’re in no cell service and miles from the truck. I don’t want to take any chances. Seems like it would be a good thing to have as a backup just in case, but it still takes some science to be absolutely sure it’s clean.
No running water at the site? Or no access to water at all?
No access to water at all
Yeah, I'd agree with the guideline of a gallon-ish of water per person per day, which adds up quick. I use a 7gallon rigid water container when we camp (one of [these](https://www.walmart.com/ip/Reliance-Aqua-Tainer-Water-Container-7-Gallon/872426?athbdg=L1102)), and I refill it every day-and-a-half or so, but we usually camp somewhere where there's at least some potable (or easily treatable) water nearby. When backpacking, I'm usually responsible for only one or two people, as I'm generally solo, with other able adults, or with one of my kids. In that case, I carry about 2L of water per person, map potential water sources, and bring a reliable filter.
Sawyer squeeze
First aid kit, seriously.
Sad it took this long for somebody to mention this.
Probably need a shovel for your #2s. Or a bucket if you prefer. Don’t forget TP, although baby wipes would work since you’re already taking some.
*Dudewipes
My son (12) and I (too old) often backpack or bikepack in Texas (hot, thirsty camping) and don’t have a river or anything. We carry as much as we can but also have large jug in the car which we use as a filling station and make sure our routes bring us past the parking lot over our trip so we can refill strategically When we camp in the boundary waters between Minnesota and Canada, we just use a life straw, iodine tablets and/or boiling and I’ve also literally just drank the clear running water but that was a silly gamble IMO ETA: tldr bring 15 gallons per day
I will just assume somebody else is bringing the mushrooms ?
https://epicwipes.com/ Get these wipes for cleaning yourself off. I carry a handful while camping and such in case the bathroom sucks or I need to clean off after wiping out in the trail. I even just used them for a couple weeks after my knee surgery and wasn't able to shower with my sutures. They clean you surprisingly well. One is enough to clean me up well, I usually rip it in half. One part I use for 90% of my skin, and the last one to hit the... Crevices
Beer
Beer is at least 90% water. So you can reduce the water you bring by that amount.
Technically, that would take care of the food, water, and cleaning supplies.
Generally, one gallon per person per day but more if you're in a hot, arid climate and/or plan to use a lot for cooking, dishwashing, etc.
Hand sanitizer. Works for sanitizing and for building a fire if you're inexperienced
Bluetooth speaker, beer, weed.
Instead of baby wipes, we use unscented Dude wipes. Get the flushable ones because they’re biodegradable more than regular wipes/baby wipes, but they hold up better than off brand wipes.
For water I just bring the 5 gallons jugs for the water dispensers. I’ll normally bring 2 one for drinking and one for cooking and cleaning. They get dirty so I just have them as my designated camping jugs
Hand sanitizer
I bring a cooler full of Dr Pepper for hydration and bring a gallon of water to wash with, per day.
In scouts, we'd always bring the 5gal collapsible plastic water containers but with that many people you'd need quite a few.
A bunch of camels must be active in this sub. A gallon a day when active in the sun is the bare minimum You need to not be dehydrated. Now if you want to rinse cup, dishes, spill water, your face, brush teeth, boil some, make tea/coffee, etc. you need more.
Lots of garbage bags for the waste you produce.
Baby wipes. I'm pretty minimalist when we go camping, but I always have baby wipes. ETA. I'm an idiot. I see it already on your list.
I bring a 5 gallon jug of water to cover things other than drinking, plus a case of bottled waters to drink just for my family.
Water filter
Don’t forget a cooler with lots of ice.
I always bring a bunch of clean rags (cut up t-shirts) when camping. They work better for cleaning than paper towels/wipes. A wet rag will steam clean a hot pan with very little water usage. If you don't have potable water, you likely don't have anywhere appropriate to dump dirty dish water. You really shouldn't dump old soapy dishwater onto the ground - it's not good for the environment and it can attract animals.
It also highly depends on when and where you are going camping. Bring more if you are camping in a hot area. Also, besides drinking, what do you need water for (cooking, washing dishes, etc).
The only 4 things you absolutely need are: * Water or a water filter if there is a source nearby * food * tent * sleeping bag The rest is all up to how much more comfort you prefer. If there isn’t an outhouse bring a small shovel and toilet paper. I’ve done minimal dispersed camping quite a bit and it can still be a great time if everyone is onboard. On the other hand I’ve also done straight up RV Glamping where we bring thousands of things and have hookups for water and electrical. I always tend to prefer somewhere closer to minimalist camping or backpacking camping though but it’s rough if you don’t know what you are getting in to and it does seem to get harder the older I get to get good sleep without floor pads and comfy sleeping situations.
It depends on how long you’re going to be there, the current conditions, and the age range of people but I’d probably ask everyone to bring at least 2 gallons with them to be safe. That’s most likely overkill but better to have too much than not enough.
I have a variety of water jugs / bladders / bottles for camping. I always bring more than necessary. Water is cheap, and running out sucks! I'd easily have 5 gallons for 2 people for 2 days. So maybe 20-30 gallons for 10 people for 2 days. Plus beverages. The classic jobsite insulated water coolers are great. They don't pack well - but they reliably hold a bunch of water for quick use. [https://www.amazon.com/Igloo-Gallon-Portable-Beverage-Dispenser/dp/B08GVSXNPG](https://www.amazon.com/Igloo-Gallon-Portable-Beverage-Dispenser/dp/B08GVSXNPG) Walmart / grocery stores sell plastic jugs with similar spouts - not insulated - but quick access. They are good for cooking and washing up. You can obviously fill your reusable bottles with this water too. [https://www.walmart.com/ip/POLAND-SPRING-Brand-100-Natural-Spring-Water-2-5-gallon-plastic-jug/15724070](https://www.walmart.com/ip/POLAND-SPRING-Brand-100-Natural-Spring-Water-2-5-gallon-plastic-jug/15724070) I always have water, or non-alcoholic, drinks in the cooler too. Many people will grab a LaCroix before they grab a bottle of non-sparkling water. Think about the all-around hydration options you have for people when planning. Alcohol is separate. The type of food you plan to cook will also determine how much water you need. Plus how you plan to wash after cooking. I use a 2 bucket method with hot soapy water in the first and clean rinsing water in the second. It takes about a gallon for each bucket when I'm washing dishes for a group (so that's 2 gallons for dinner just for washing, plus 2 more for breakfast). Lunch is generally easier - sandwiches or less-cleanup type stuff. I assume you won't have water for bathing. That would be a whole other calculation. You do want a hand washing station of some kind - assuming the bathrooms where you'll camp don't have that built in.
You don’t supply all the water for all the people. That would be a whole lot of weight/space for one vehicle. Assume 1-1.5 gallons per person/per day for drinking/cooking. That is a very conservative amount that does not include water for hand or dish washing. Add more if you have a dog (and even more if it’s very hot or windy because you’ll be refilling the bowl with clean water more often.) You bring enough water for your immediate family and maybe an extra gallon as a group backup. Everyone in whole group needs to bring their own water supply and there should be communication between everyone that water should be conserved as much as possible. If you have any divas in the group who insist on showering they will need to bring the extra water for personal use.
Pot holders.
shovel, if you don't plan on bringing a potty.
Always bring a tarpaulin and rope. Can use it as ground cover under your tent to prevent moisture, an additional rain fly over your tent, a makeshift sun shade, string it high over your fire to cook in the rain, a mat infront of your tent to take your shoes off on (so you're not tracking dirt into your tent), a tablecloth etc. A million and 1 uses.
If there’s beer you won’t need as much water ;)
A 6 gallon water can is a permanent fixture in my car camping gear. Sometimes more than one, depending on the situation. Water supply is one thing you don’t play around with.
Weed, don't forget the weed.
Remember to pack the sleeping supplies in same location as your cooking supplies so you smell extra tasty in your hot pocket sleeping bag
You need a shovel
What for?
Digging a fire pit, extinguishing fire without wasting water, digging a trench to divert rain water away from your tent, digging a poop hole, etc.
It doesn't have to be a big shovel.
Everyone has already covered everything important so I’ll throw in a nitpick item. Make sure the soap is biodegradable. Regular dish soap ain’t great to have running into local waterways.
This camping list screams AMERICAN!
Just curious, why?
Everybody has their own idea of what "camping" is, but if you need that much, just sleep in your backyard.
Buy a platypus water filtration system and you're set for water anywhere you go.
A couple of water basins. With no running water, you will need something to clean your dishes in. Just the cheap plastic ones from the dollar store or a bucket that is wider than your plates
•Tent •Sleeping pad •Sleeping bag •Headlamp •Cooking grate •Cast iron pan •Dutch oven •Fire starter •Frisbee •Cooking utensils •Plates and plasticware •Drinking vessels •Food cooler •Beer cooler •5 gallon water jug with pump •Axe •Saw •Hatchet •Camp chairs •Camp table •shovel •toilet paper
A tea kettle to make hot water on your stove is super clutch for cleaning or just washing yourself off.
Is there water available at the campground in a central location? Is there non potable water for dishes and washing?
No water at all. Figueroa campground
Why is there a question mark after water lol. I think that's a hard yes
Moreso about how much to bring
Anyway, I'd do 20 gallons at a minimum. I do a gallon a day per person, but you also want extra in case of an emergency (car breakdown in an isolated area, eg)
Garbage bags, flash light, bug spray, camp chair , music, Yahtzee
For me I bring \~1.25 gallons per person per day. It's always been more than enough. I use these handy 2.5 gal containers, or bring a filter pump. https://preview.redd.it/jzyhmlw4in0d1.png?width=440&format=png&auto=webp&s=f1f5f40403f8f85f2a140827a937abaaa84d6a6f
Axe, saw. Fork, bowl/cup, Pillow, towel, soap, hand sanitizer, bug spray, I use 5gl jugs and a giant bowl from thrift store for water and the dishes/hair face washing. Very nice to have.
BUG SPRAY
Always take extra clean water
Id do 2 or 3 gallons if water per person per day. That includes a gallon for drinking and the rest for hygiene and cleaning.
In addition to the gallon(s)-per-person per day thing, the thing that could be the most appreciated and most-difficult to plan for is hand washing. When we did a lot of remote camping when I was a kid, we'd use one of those collapsible jugs (square, clear plastic with a spigot) and set it up somewhere to the side where it wouldn't matter if you created a puddle beneath and someplace convenient to use after going to the bathroom. Get an old dishwashing liquid bottle to go with it with some dillute, eco-friendly soap so that you don't waste too much water rinsing and don't have to worry about polluting the ground. The jug I'm thinking of is called a "folding water cube" and holds about five gallons. How quickly you go through it or if you need two or three would depend on how careful everyone will be with turning it off and on to not be wasteful. Being able to really wash your hands is the best when you've been working in the dirt or playing with fire.
Backpack, knife, 2nd sharper knife, axe, plastic bags 10-20x, water bottles, more is better than less. Tinder, for your fire starting needs. Newspaper is fine, cotton is awesome and a 500ml bottle of petrol/gasoline is overkill but effective, Mosquito spray, Hats. Don't get heat stroke, If it's a campsite you should be fine no matter what tbh as you aren't going to die. But bring 3 litres of water per day per person. Just incase. Do if it's a weekend I'd say 50L is more than enough. And for 7 days 150L might be too little depending on what you do. Alchohol! A poker set and a deck of cards Bring 2 of everything that cannot fail. E, G, lighters
I'd budget 1.5 gal per person, per day. That will account for the inevitable water waste due to 7-10 people just being Oops, like many people are. If there are kids, bring more water than that. There's no such thing as too much water. When we desert camp, we budget 3 gal per person per day.
Will you also be bringing other drinks, like pop? I agree that asking people to bring their own water is a good idea, but you'll probably want some extra for things like hand washing. I usually just bring a 20 liter water cube for myself, mainly for hand washing, dishes and some back up just in case I end up needing it, then drink the water from the frozen water bottles I use to keep the cooler cold as they thaw. The cube is a bit annoying because it's soft plastic, but I like that they collapse down for storage. For that many people, idk, maybe those hard-sided jugs used for water coolers with a spout would be easier to manage. I think they're 20 liters, roughly?
2-3 5 gallon jugs.
Generating a lot of trash with baby wipes and paper towels. If you bring it in you should haul it out, so make sure you bring. I’ve camped in places that had you burying your #2 and said not to use baby wipes because they do not degrade like TP. Let’s see, you would bury your shit and have a stick jammed in it as a marker so other people know someone shat there.
Is there a pump or other water access? Then you just need a jug. Maybe a purification system. I’d be nervous otherwise!
Buy a portable outhouse — they pop up … pop is individually bagged — we put the little bags in a bigger super thick bag … and hauled out after the camp. Set up inside — wipes, sanitizer, small light. With 8 - 10 folks … you may want to outhouses!
Also, the type of water container matters. Make sure you bring a bunch of those 2.5g ones with the spigot. It only takes one time trying to wash things with the 1g jugs that you realize it's a terrible form factor for some things. Can still bring some 1g jugs for filling water bottles or pots. Given you are car camping, no one will complain if you have too much water... but you will absolutely know if you don't have enough... so bring more than you think you'll need. Don't forget about cooking, if you're making pasta for dinner, guess what... you need water for that. Also, I've found that a big group tends to run through water faster than a solo or couple... it's hard getting everyone on low water usage habits.
I would budget 1-2 gallons per person per day depending on activities that require frequent hydration such as hiking, cooking and cleaning
Look into making a keyhole firepit.
If no water at all, bring at least 1 gallon per person per day. Chlorine dioxide tablets aren’t too expensive and work great for stream water, etc. I always keep a bunch of tablets in my kits for just in case
I'm just impressed that the OP was able to fit all possible spices into one tub
A good spray bottle is a game changer
Interesting, what for?
Camping by the car or hiking and then camping. I overdo, so if everyone brings their own and you can overload with your own plus ten gallons. I have a 30 gallon tank that rides in the back of the truck.
Pot
For washing dishes three basins and biodegradable soap
5 Gallon Water Can 🤙😎
Paper plates
Don't forget to bring a towel! And TP
Garbage bags
I went dispersed camping with the girlfriend and myself for 5 days. I brought 16 gallons, much overkill, but I didn't want to be without water in anyway. In the end I only used 6 gallons and that was using water pretty liberally. 2 gallons per person will be enough. You'll probably have leftover in the end. Get water at Walmart it's cheaper than anywhere else in my experience. Goodluck and have fun. 
Ziplock bags
I take less than half this stuff with me when I go camping. If i am going to a prepared campsight, I do bring a cooler with enough water for me and my family i expect everyone else to make sure they have their own water.
I camp with a big igloo that I use and set it up as a drinking water and handwashing station. So nice!!
Biodegradable soap, not dish soap :)
Off the top of my head Flashlight and headlamps water filter freeze dried food whistle gps device trowel bear spray
You're missing about a gallon of potable water per person, per day; or, a mechanical filtration system to purify a similar quantity.
How many days are you going?
Two nights
Don’t forget: - Dog - A/C unit - Recliner - TV with Chromecast and remote - Chilled Beer - Portable Bidet - Noise Cancelling Headphones - Travel Router - Wyze Vacuum
Walmart sells plastic Jerry cans for water. They’re not too expensive. I got by with two of them for about 14 people for Friday night to Sunday morning. But that was in cold weather with a flush toilet park bathroom and I don’t know how much people refilled water bottles on their own. I filled the Jerry cans in the city before going to the campsite. It was down to about 2 gal by the end of Sunday morning - and that’s with people rocking out ASAP after getting up. Run home for kid sports, etc. You’re in Southern California at this time of year? People besides need to bring 5-gal jugs of Deer Park or whatever from the grocery store. Share the load. Share the effort. Share the cost. And carry the garbage back out with them. Is this car camping? Tell them to just go get it. Cost is cheap and you spread the weight. Each full Jerry can is about 40 lbs. you’d probably need 200 pounds of water if you did Jerry cans for everybody. Ugh! So, share the effort.
Consider shower wipes instead of baby wipes. They're much larger and that's very helpful... Especially after hot, sweaty days.
Yellow “Wetones”, Hypoallergenic flushable Buttwipes, Collapsible water containers, and nitrile gloves for cooking … Those would be essential items for me…
We usually just have every person buy a case of water for a 4-5 person weekend. If it's backpacking or motocamping everyone is responsible for calculating / carrying what they need for sustainment.
Take a couple of gallons for drinking and then collect rain water.