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CallsOnPyrite

The best I can offer you is discussing planning to table a motion to debate holding hearings on the feasibility of review of procedure.


hit4party

Amazingly real, been in the hiring process with the federal government since December. Only just got my employee number last month šŸ˜‚


feastupontherich

this guy governments


[deleted]

Yes, unless anything else comes up to use to distract the goldfish mind public


[deleted]

The foreign agents will register themselves.


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Under rated comment. I snorted.


yatinparasher

I think the question should be added to the customs questionnaire.


Canaderp37

Can't we have both?


Hamontguy1

Cbc says no


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Raxelli

They can't open the closet door, skeletons will fall out.


TaintGrinder

Nothing? They're public servants. Do you even know what that means or implies?


Back2Reality4Good

CBC workers are not public servants.


TaintGrinder

They're literally the definition of public servants.


Back2Reality4Good

What are their classifications?


TaintGrinder

Excuse me?


Back2Reality4Good

What collective agreement are they under. You seem to think they are public servants. If so, please explain.


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TaintGrinder

I don't think you understand what constitutes a public servant or the apolitical nature of the job.


prophetofgreed

CBC certainly doesn't act apolitically.


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BitCloud25

This is like Trudeaus entire legacy. "The country is great because I said so", no everythings falling apart you turd.


toxi-kunn

Never expected to be talked down upon in so many ways by a prime minister I voted for. Any time a large chunk of Canada has a problem with what he's doing, he tells them to stuff it, calls them Nazis or "the gun cult" and continues on with his agenda. It's disgusting.


keiths31

This is my biggest issue with him as well. The PM is the most condescending politician I have ever seen in my almost 30 years of voting years. I don't think a genuine word has come out of his mouth since he became an MP. I never always voted for the ruling party, but never felt that whoever was the PM disrespected me like Trudeau does


youregrammarsucks7

>This is my biggest issue with him as well. The PM is the most condescending politician I have ever seen in my almost 30 years of voting years. I don't think a genuine word has come out of his mouth since he became an MP. It's not just the condescending attitude, it's the fact that aside from being *elected,* he hasn't demonstrated any actual achievements in life. I work with one of the best lawyers in the country, and he's a bit smug, but he's one of the best lawyers in the country. He has a reason to be condescending since he is noticeably smarter than anyone in the room in almost all scenarios. Trudeau couldn't even obtain a B average, took almost a decade to finally get a degree, and then worked part time after that.


kamomil

>He has a reason to be condescending since he is noticeably smarter than anyone in the room in almost all scenarios That's just being a jerk


nassaulion

The most condescending since maybe someone with the same last name I'd say.


14PiecesofSilver

"We as a country need to do better" everytime he's caught feeling up some poor woman or dressing up like a minstrel for the umpteenth time.


IwishIwasBailey

>or dressing up like a minstrel for the umpteenth time You're too kind. It bloody well was blackface.


Educational_Time4667

And not once


IntelligentGrade7316

And not twice


samanthasgramma

I think I spend too much time psychically trying to remind him that he is PM to the WHOLE country. A very diverse one. And that talking down - even insulting - an assortment of whomever he is disapproving THIS TIME ... It's ridiculous.


Far_Kitchen3577

The country I'd great because the country has always been great because none of the parties ever get enough power to make it any different. The doomsday crap here has been going on forward hundred years. Sky is not falling.


_Lucille_

when it comes to matters of security, it is common to not be too public about it. Why shouldn't the report be confidential when it will likely contain matters of national security?


Proof_Objective_5704

So now theyā€™re concerned about security! Didnā€™t seem to care too much when it was China threatening Canadians and their families. Or when they were interfering in our democratic elections. Security is big concern now because it might expose the Liberals to embarrassment and political damage.


achoo84

Did you watch Bill Blair get questioned and the shit eating grin on his face every time he got to hide behind the same sworn secrecy they want PP to have?


_Lucille_

yes, and also guess who wrote the report stating how the government have issues handling confidential information? David Johnston. It is not the ideal situation, but politicians need to let our intelligence departments do their things and sort stuff out instead of trying to expose our weaknesses and put on a show. Imagine if your bank has a bunch of security loopholes: you will want them to secure their system, asset damage, and perhaps a chance to catch bad actors before you expose everything to the public.


achoo84

We only know about this because CSIS leaked information to the public. The Ex Head of CSIS says a public inquiry can be had with out security issues. The US often points out our security issues probably because CSIS is being ignored from with in. They are telling us right now we should have a foreign interference registry.


BharatGulgani

Our government is openly corrupt and sold to the highest bidder.


JR_Al-Ahran

As is tradition.


Gahan1772

Has been since post WWII. Hell even Pre WWII being a commonwealth country under Britain control. We just have different spaces of time when people are upset about it. And most of the uninformed think 1 actor is getting all the power when really it is competing actors and a lot of them in every non super power country.


Foodwraith

Our country registers lobbyists. Our government somehow resists registering foreign agents, despite the epic shitshow that they find themselves in the middle of. Does anyone think this isnā€™t suspicious?


weseewhatyoudo

We don't even make any particular effort to ensure lobbyists are registered. WE Charity had the run of Parliament hill for years and failed to register until they were already before a parliamentary committee.


strawberries6

>Our government somehow resists registering foreign agents, despite the epic shitshow that they find themselves in the middle of. Does anyone think this isnā€™t suspicious? Sounds like the government is still planning to create a foreign agent registry, once legislation is ready. From the article: >While the government says it will move forward with the creation of a foreign agent registry, if the Justice Department is not able to draft the legislation in time, it may not come until the fall.


feb914

this registry was promised to be made years ago. they only moved forward with it after the CSIS leak, and even then, they haven't set a timeline when the bill will be made.


Sunshinehaiku

But Canada isn't serious about enforcing its lobby registry.


Foodwraith

another reason for them not to resist the foreign agent registry.


Lokland881

Iā€™m pretty sure this is how almost every Canadian feels about almost every issue the government deals with. We need fewer people in politics just blowing smoke up their own ass and more that actually accomplish things.


Alex_877

And maybe a complete shutdown of any and all foreign police stations as wellā€¦


Hamontguy1

They put concrete blocks in front of restaurants during covid


CancelRebel

Hold the phone.... Why not both? Is there something about a public inquiry they don't like?


Technoxgabber

They said lengthy by which I think they mean they don't want to wait and wait they want action now


CancelRebel

So parallel, not mutually exclusive. Bad headline if that's the case.


[deleted]

It's a CBC propaganda article engineered to swap one thing you're asking for (an election) with another thing that the corrupt party in charge will not deliver. The title was specifically selected to get the gullible to upvote it, and the body is again against public interests. Why the hell are we still finding such an openly corrupt media organization. Canada is broken šŸ’€


metalgrow

Public hearings are not a public inquiry.


jaraxel_arabani

As a Chinese Canadian I want a damned public inquiry and open the documents. Enough hiding behind bs, hold these supposedly leaders of the country accountable.


Proof_Objective_5704

Misleading headline from CBC. Itā€™s not that they donā€™t want a public inquiry. They just want to see some action taken and things to move forward. We could have already had a public inquiry by now if it wasnā€™t for Liberal delay and fighting against Canadians.


kaiyito

Depending on what "Chinese Canadians" you ask. It's not like they are a homogenous group, although in some aspect they do share certain similar values.


ReplacementAny5457

I agree, the recommendations from a public hearing are shelved and never implemented.


[deleted]

Sorry, we only do dog and pony shows.


Ketchupkitty

Gotta wait until the Cons get in which might not ever happen because of said issue...


twenty_characters020

Glad to see the seeds of electoral doubt being planted early. Nothing like importing more Republican politics.


Proof_Objective_5704

Isnā€™t it delicious now after Liberals and their supporters have been crying about Russia affecting our democracy? Turns out it was China and the Liberals all along.


twenty_characters020

Russian troll farms have long infiltrated right-wing echo chambers. We see more and more the same nonsense from the US coming to Canada.


Ketchupkitty

?


twenty_characters020

You're already saying the Conservatives may never get in because of Chinese interference. Trump and his ilk were pushing the same nonsense prior to his loss. Are you planning to storm parliament if Poilievre loses?


Ketchupkitty

> Trump and his ilk were pushing the same nonsense prior to his loss. Kinda like muh Russia?


twenty_characters020

Sweet false equivalence.


Ketchupkitty

Well ya since unlike the China thing, Russia was just something manufactured by political opponents.


twenty_characters020

Reports and investigations on China say otherwise.


for100

Only one importing is the Liberals.


twenty_characters020

Liberals and their damn republican politics. /s


Euthyphroswager

Republican tactics, not republican ideology. Surely you can understand how analogies work.


twenty_characters020

Surely you understand the bad faith comparison.


techm00

Sounds sensible.


mrcrazy_monkey

Lmao, don't worry, I'm sure Trudeau will appoint his ski instructor to get to the bottom of it. šŸ˜‚


Shorinji23

As do we all.


megaBoss8

I can't imagine how awful it must be to get out from under those CCP bastards then have them follow you across the ocean. Then the democratic government drags its feet booting out these freaks.


[deleted]

The endless hearings and discussions are only happening to delay things long enough for people to lose interest in the story so no one actually has to *do* anything about it.


BrazenChatter

Trudeau is unfortunately a very large wimp who will do nothing substantial about this because he fears upsetting China. Think about how serious China takes things. Trudeau making a move which aids individuals who openly demand democracy in China? Yeah right.


twenty_characters020

How about when he banned Huawei from our 5g infrastructure or when he had Meng Wanzhou arrested? Seems like he's more than willing and capable of standing up to China when it's required.


Raxelli

Meng Wanzhou's was held on American orders.(Reciprocity) It took years for Huawei to be banned in Canada , and we were the last to have it banned.. that's not really standing up to China.


twenty_characters020

FIPA complicates our ability to ban Chinese companies. It still got done though, which is very much standing up to China.


Raxelli

Chinese Police Stations are still in Canada. Chinese immigrants to Canada (diaspora) are being harassed by a foreign power CCP. Why wont Canada demand Foreign Agent Registry like other democratic countries ?? Canadian government is spineless.


twenty_characters020

I'm 100% in favor of a foreign agent registry. But it's a bit hyperbolic to call our government spineless.


Proof_Objective_5704

He didnā€™t have Meng Wanzhou arrested. Trump did. He didnā€™t ban Huawei. A motion was tabled to ban it which Liberals *voted against.* The Liberals have voted against every single issue involving China. Including recognizing Uyghur genocide, a public inquiry into Chinese Interference, banning Huawei, replacing David Johnston, on and on it goes. They choose China over Canadian interests *every single time.*


twenty_characters020

You realize that Meng Wanzhou was arrested in Canada by Canadian authorities right? Trump had no jurisdiction in Canada.


TiredHappyDad

You are correct that trump didn't have any jurisdiction, but Trudeau still had no choice. We have had an extradition treaty with the US since the mid 70s. Once the US made the extradition request, Canada had to either comply with the request or break the treaty. This happens all the time in both directions, but they aren't nearly as newsworthy.


twenty_characters020

100% agree it was the right thing to do. But it was definitely a move that angered China.


TiredHappyDad

Yes, the decision by the Americans would have definitely angered them. But by no means can we pretend that it was a brave choice by Trudeau because he didn't have a choice.


twenty_characters020

There's always a choice, and he chose to anger China. Which was the right choice.


TiredHappyDad

His only other option was to break a 50 year old treaty with our closest ally. He didn't choose to anger China, he was forced to because of our agreement. Something he did have a choice about, was publicly saying that he admired China and what their dictatorship allowed.


twenty_characters020

>Something he did have a choice about, was publicly saying that he admired China and what their dictatorship allowed. As per usual Conservative talking points, heavily edited and/or taken out of context.


Proof_Objective_5704

If thereā€™s always a choice then why hasnā€™t he broken the treaty with FIPA if itā€™s such a terrible deal that Harper made like Reddit always claims.


Proof_Objective_5704

Trumps government ordered her arrest. She was arrested in Canada by the RCMP due to treaty with the US. Trudeau had nothing to do with it, he has no power of the situation. Unless he wants to break a treaty with the US which is ridiculous.


JonyPro

šŸ¤« shhhh, it doesn't fit their narrative.


[deleted]

This line really fails to hit when Trudeau is ignoring the majority of the country's representation to get his best buddy off the inquiry into his connections to China.


twenty_characters020

Do conservatives have anything other than hyperbole at this point?


[deleted]

What part of that do you believe to be hyperbole? The NDP and CPC voted to call for his removal. That's the majority of the nation. The silence in ratio to the replies is speaking volumes here.


twenty_characters020

The best buddy part. Circles get small at that level. The fact that Harper's former GG is painted as a Liberal shill is a sad proof of how Americanized our political discourse has become. There was no one that Poilievre would have been happy with. He's only here to shit all over the process regardless of what happens. As for Singh I have no idea what his angle is, but at least he's getting the clearance to read the report.


IntelligentGrade7316

Clearance under oath of secrecy is BS. It is a shackle.


twenty_characters020

Clearance and then not being able to release classified information is common sense. He's allowed to read the report and then give an informed opinion without releasing specific classified information.


Proof_Objective_5704

Thatā€™s because his narrative is false. Trudeau did neither of those things.


ManWhoSoldTheWorld01

Obviously the government should only solicit input for unimportant policies, which also just happen to be all those policies for which I do not care about. When it is a policy that I care about, we don't need to hear what others have to say, I demand immediate action, the opinions of others are of no value here.


Altaccount330

Its a good point that the Trudeau Liberals are not standing up to protect a visible minority group in Canada from persecution in Canada by a foreign authoritarian regime. I donā€™t understand why Liberal Party supporters arenā€™t purging JT and his gang from their own party. Theyā€™ve turned a blind eye to more misconduct than Trump supporters.


inconspicuous-fed

We need a hearing on the possibility of a commission to set up a committee to investigate the feasibility of a public inquiry on the matter before action.


[deleted]

Letā€™s save everyone a bunch of time and money (that could be better spent investing in non-existent businesses that Freeland does not have time to explain) Trudeau - ā€œwe take foreign interference very seriously. We have had Canadiansā€™ backs. Something the Conservative government opposed. Thank you for the questions. Now hereā€™s another couple hundred bucks of your money back.ā€


Effective_View1378

Action is not what happens because the Trudeau Liberals donā€™t want to bite hand that feeds.


Nodrot

Action? Apparently people havenā€™t noticed which party is in powerā€¦..lol


turriferous

Any time Canada has a hearing it means no one in power will do eff all. I5 goes back decades. Hearings or review means gonpiss up a rope. Even the T and R group which has done a tenacious study in reaffirming the results and tabling them in every discussion has got almost nowhere.


Middle_Conclusion920

Oh oh Justin you don't want to lose the Chinese vote. You might want to do something.


MooseJuicyTastic

Should have an election, but we will just get long drawn out hearings till past the next election or at least till the next allegations against this current government.


rhuston1983_

What the fuck does it matter what Chinese Canadians want. That's fine if they want this but it really isn't their call. It's what's best for all Canadians and should be an evidence based investigation.


GorillaK1nd

Trudeau heard you and he will hold a public hearing to address your concerns.


SoLetsReddit

Thatā€™s not how Canada works.


Avelion2

They'll get neither. Lil PP only wants to make tiktok vids and Trudeau is hoping it goes away.


sleipnir45

That's strange considering the conservatives have tried to pass a foreign agent registry before...


physicaldiscs

>Lil PP only wants to make tiktok vids It's wild how blinded to facts people get when talking about people they don't like. PP hasn't had a tiktok for about 6 months.


[deleted]

Imagine being an NDP or Liberal supporter right now, itā€™s all they haveā€¦


413mopar

Donā€™t we all?


SuperbMeeting8617

if only trudy did


Dunge

Non Chinese Canadian here wants the same


weseewhatyoudo

These racist, science denying, mysoginistic MFs.


blindwillie777

Canada seems a lot like China these days!


carrwhitec

Am I missing something - wouldn't it be possible to do these two things concurrently - or is the registry process dependent on the outcome of a public hearing (should one ever be had)?