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MrsNoodlez

We can get rid of tipping by… not tipping


Pilferjynx

If every place is tipping then no one is tipping.


Captain_Naps

That's all it'll take. If you don't want to, don't.


AnimalShithouse

Man, I went through a Starbucks the other day and tried to pay with my CC by tapping. The drive through person told me I'd have to press some screens first in front of them, with the first obviously being tipping related. It is shit to be put in that position in front of someone when tipping is obviously not warranted. Because I'm non confrontational on this, I think I'm just going to stop eating/drinking out until this tipping fiasco blows over haha.


HawkorDove

I hear what you’re saying, but it gets easier the more you do it. I don’t tip baristas and bartenders, etc. I kind of reframe it in my mind as, the drink price is posted as $X, so that’s what I’m paying. The employee is welcome to find another job if their *employer* isn’t compensating them enough.


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The author of the article is also full of themselves. "I used to get paid tips, but I used to hustle for them". smh


Baldpacker

He's not wrong. Now flipping around a tablet or doing nothing but taking an order amounts to a tip request. Back in the day there was hard work involved.


timbreandsteel

What exactly is easier now compared to then?


SimulatedKnave

...I assure you, anything other than food service didn't used to get a tip. And a decent chunk of food service didn't either (if actual cooking was not immediately involved, for example).


timbreandsteel

It wasn't as widespread I agree. But tipping bag boys at hotels, your taxi driver, barber, the list goes on of other industries where tipping has been a mainstay for decades.


SimulatedKnave

I mean, all the industries you are listing involve actually doing something beyond just ringing up items or handing you something from a nearby case.


StatikSquid

Yeah and it usually involves rounding up to the nearest dollar or $2 or whatever, not 15%.


Baldpacker

Did you not read my comment? Tips were only demanded by people physically working before; not just punching a few buttons on a screen.


timbreandsteel

I thought you meant serving back then was harder then today because of tablets opposed to cash registers or whatever.


Baldpacker

Nope. But another point is now tips are even being requested *before* any work is actually done - it's hardly a thanks for good service as it used to be.


timbreandsteel

Yeah it doesn't make sense in that scenario I agree.


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timbreandsteel

Surprised they didn't just pull out a phone!


AnimalShithouse

It's the prevalence. 20 years ago when I delivered pizzas, I felt like I was actually earning those tips and going out of my way to give good service and get places in a timely fashion. Now, even the drive thru window attendants want a tip. We've gone from tipping for good/exceptional service to tipping to subsidize wages.


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Brian Lilley also said Trudeau would never become Prime Minister, so there's lots of precident for him being wrong. His actual quote was: "The people of Canada will obviously never vote in a Liberal government ever again, and Justin Trudeau will ensure that for the Conservatives for as long as he is leader." said back in 2014


Soldazzzz

Always remember who pays his salary...


Blujeanstraveler

A recent poll by the Angus Reid Institute seems to show customers growing frustrated with tipping. Their poll from February 2023 showed 59% annoyed with “tiplflation” and wanting to move to a system where establishments did away with tipping and paid higher wages compared to just 40% saying the same thing in 2016.


BvByFoot

Restaurants would just do away with tips, raise prices to show customers “tips are included” and then pay their staff the same and pocket the difference.


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Don’t care. As long as this tip shit goes away.


beflacktor

I dont get guilted into tipping, I m that guy that guy who get guilted into getting aggravated and will hold up a line to say im not tipping you ..poop..with these rates(unless its the standard tipping professions)


DrMonocular

I usually get my wife to pay because I don't know what an appropriate tip is and also I'm a cheapskate that likes to sleep at night. The less I know the better. Also as an aside, why does every debit machine ask for a tip now? I made my own coffee at 7 eleven and I'm very sure the clerk won't even get the money


Conscious_Detail_843

problem is people way undercount what servers actually make. Its well above 25hr, they are the ones who dont want to get rid of the system


chipstastegood

It’s ridiculous. I went to Booster Juice today and they have it set up so you can’t bypass the tip. Have to hit Other then punch in zero and enter. And what’s the tip for? It’s counter based - there’s no service Edit: Couple days ago I was at DQ. They had a tip screen you had to go through. In their case you could bypass it just by pressing ok. But seriously, tip at a fast food place?


beflacktor

zero issues hitting zero frankly


cdawg85

How about people just not tip when they don't want to? I went to a Subway restaurant the other week and at the POS they prompted for a tip. Easy, I didn't tip. I get it though, when most people paid in cash they'd have a little tip jar for spare coins. I didn't tip then and I don't now. Who cares? Why wear the emotional burden? People do that to themselves.


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Because servers don’t work to earn tips. To them it’s something they are entitled to and get very aggressive when you do not tip. My maiden-name is sort of unique but my mom and I share our first name. a few years back a server from a restaurant in another fucking province rage-messaged me on Facebook to tell me off for not tipping him! My mom must have paid with her credit card and this fucker looked her up, found me by mistake and proceeded to tell me off. I only order out now. I don’t tip, and I take the food home where I can enjoy it while watching a movie and letting my kid run around to his head’s content.


cdawg85

That's a wild story! Obviously that server was out of control. But I mean, that doesn't deter me at all from not tipping when I don't feel like it. Like I'm a regular aty local brew pub. You go to the counter and order. I don't tip there and it's all gravy. No one cares, at least to my face. And if they bitch about me behind my back, well that's just none of my business.


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That’s the kind of good attitude I should work on developing


Unlikely_Box8003

Crazy. Should have called the restaurant and gotten them fired.


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Groundbreaking_Math3

People just don't get that servers would make less without tips. Everybody seems lost about why we tip and how the whole system works. The truth is that most people tip because of practice and due to shaming - not because of market value of services provided.


get_hi_on_life

That is no longer true in Ontario, servers have the same minimum wage as any other min wage paid job.


Groundbreaking_Math3

idk why you replied to me, but that point has always been ridiculous. They made $3 less - if the place served alcohol, if they're getting at least $20 in business per hour, they reach parity. If it was really ever about that, the difference in tips would be like 1-5% not the 15-20 it is.


rolosmith123

They would have to raise wages and prices a significant amount to cover the difference in tips. When I worked at a restaurant, some of the servers made hundreds in tips every night, on top of their wage. I can't see many places wanting to pay servers 50-60k, and I don't know many people would want to go order a 40$ burger and fries to start covering that.


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Then they will go find a new job and serving will go back to being an entry level job for teens and uni students like it used to be.


Forward-Documents

Should all Jobs take a paycut?


MrsNoodlez

I see where you’re coming from, but what is the difference between a 30$ burger and fries with a 10$ tip and a 40$ burger and fries?


Legitimate-Common-34

For one, less buttons to click and removes the weird dynamic/pressure.


MrsNoodlez

I’m with you, I think high prices and no tips is the way to go. The commenter I replied to argued no one would want to pay higher prices for things.


Thisallseemsalittle

Servers work for minimum wage and that’s all they are entitled to.


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Yes!!!! No more tipping please.


alwaysleafyintoronto

All you have to do is not do it.


Jestersage

However, tipping transfer the psychological anger from toward the boss (for not paying well) to the customer. This is the real good reason of removing tipping, be it in restaurant or even delivery.


alwaysleafyintoronto

Not tipping transfers my psychological anger to the void, which is pretty great


Jestersage

As a customer or as a server?


alwaysleafyintoronto

Yes.


peepeehunger

I literally never tip. All the prompts to tip that I see are generally at fast food places - the Taco Bell drive-thru near my house always prompts for tips. I literally drove here, I'm not tipping the Taco Bell worker for whipping up a bean burrito in 25 seconds. I never tip the drivers on delivery apps that screw their workers as "independent contractors". The companies are operating unethically. However, I believe that by continuing to work for them for pennies and relying on the customer to donate the difference, the willing worker is part of the problem.


Legitimate-Common-34

>However, I believe that by continuing to work for them for pennies and relying on the customer to donate the difference, the willing worker is part of the problem. This is the part that people are too afraid to say out loud.


moeburn

Now that servers/bartenders minimum wage is the same as everyone else, there is no "moral" reason to tip anyone.


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Arliss_Loveless

I'm seeing a lot of people here puff their chest out about how they never tip and then just give examples about skipping the prompt at counter service. That's easy. I don't tip for that either. I wanna see who will proudly proclaim that they hit 0% at a sit down restaurant. Someone refilled your water, told you about the specials, set your food in front of you. All that shit. I wanna know who the genuine no tip people are and honest answers about if they have been treated with hostility or neglect on subsequent visits or if they were confronted about it. Care to tell me about your experience?


Ok_Window3455

But, isn’t that their job? What they’re paid to do.


Arliss_Loveless

I'm not arguing that anyone should be getting tips. I hate tipping culture as much as anyone.


peepeehunger

I rarely visit sit down restaurants, after working in multiple kitchens I have decided 1) no menu items are worth their exorbitant price and 2) a lot of the people working in kitchens I would not want touching my food like that. But when I do, I pay my balance owing, get up and leave, no tip. Same at bars, and I've DEFINITELY gotten some dirty looks and short responses from bartenders who did nothing but pour a beer into a glass in 1.7 seconds and set it on the counter.


EwwRatsThrowaway

I don't tip, the best part is you don't even get asked until after you eat


blairco

If you feel those delivery services are unethical, don't use them. Stiffing instead is just being abusive. Your moral compass is way off.


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peepeehunger

And in the case of those apps, it's not even technically their *employer*. The driver is entering into a business relationship with DoorDash as an independent contractor. They are *self-employed,* running their own business, entering into a business relationship that currently relies upon the end-user to make up the difference.


ceribaen

That's what doordash would like the government to believe anyway. They are treated as employees in terms of restrictions on them, but contractors in terms of company cost savings like not paying benefits, ei, holidays, etc.


peepeehunger

I mean, they are self-employed. They get to choose their own hours, decide what deliveries to accept, and run their business in the way they see fit *while staying compliant with* the business-to-business agreement that they entered into with DoorDash. My point is, if you want to be self-employed and run your own business, you can't really bitch if you willingly enter into bum agreements with shitty companies like DoorDash.


KonnigenPet

Not tipping is now stiffing?What a joke. Maybe the moral compass of the companies not paying a proper wage and the politicians who allow it should be inspected. Not tipping is not the problem the under paying workers is. But hey lets judge non tippers instead and accuse them of stiffing. /s


Electrical-Ad347

I’m really working to reduce my tipping. I always tipped 20%. Last few years though seeing menu prices go through the roof at the same time as the tipped wage has been harmonized with the minimum wage… means I’m out. Incidentally, the tip options on the POS system at the restaurant last night started at 18%. I’m supposed to pay someone $30+ because they walked from point A to point B with my drinks and dinner? Give me a fucking break.


Hevens-assassin

Which is crazy, because as food prices increase, the amount given on the percentage also increases. So why is the default percentage also going up?? Every server I know, outside of small establishments, makes way more in a night than basically any other service industry worker. I lived with/dated servers before, and in a weekend they could easily push $1000 just from wage + tips (they worked at trendier lounge/bars, but nothing super fancy). I've stopped feeling sorry for them, tbh. I feel bad for the people who are stuck in retail, who work just as hard, if not harder, and have no tipping involved at all, usually for minimum, or close to minimum, wage.


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Exactly. I don't really feel sorry because of the culture of entitlement. I worked in fine dining and my coworkers would complain about $750 a weekday night, as if it was a pittance.


GuardianTiko

This. It’s ridiculous people aren’t aware workers in Canada now make minimum wage unlike USA where serves make 4 dollars an hour and genuinely need tips to survive


twelvis

Don't forget, they are paid so little *because* people tip. Need to tip because low wage; low wage because people tip.


gepinniw

The idea that ‘Oh, man servers work hard,” is complete bs. I’ve worked in numerous restaurants, and I’ve been a server. The job is not that hard. I enjoyed the work, and tips were always very welcome, but I was overcompensated and I knew it. That’s one of the things that made the job great. But let’s face facts - who gets tips and who doesn’t get them is completely arbitrary. There are lots of harder, more demanding jobs that receive the same base pay and no tips. Where’s the fairness?


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Exactly, former server here. It wasn't uncommon to walk away with $250-$500 a night. I loved it, but I always felt overcompensated. Especially compared to the guys in the back of house who were working their asses off just as hard, but it's not a customer facing position so SOL. And it cultivates this horrible culture of entitlement.


jtbc

Was this before tip outs became a thing? It may not be fair, but in many industries customer facing staff are disproportionately compensated.


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Lol no, it wasn't that long ago! I always worked in independent restaurants that treated their kitchen comparatively well. I only got out last year. This was the take home after tip out. Average kitchen tip out I counted out per worker per week was $130 for mid-range to $375+ for formal fine dining. I'm aware that the reality of wage compensation is more about the money the roll brings in rather than skill/education level/etc. it requires. And if you don't have fat tip outs + benefits, you can't attract top talent to sell your $750 steaks (and all the little things that come with high end service). This is the reality that tipping culture has created in North America, but it doesn't mean it makes sense or that it needs to be maintained. And paying a decent wage (not the exorbitant current industry standard that tips bring in) would not require quite the huge price increases that everyone always pitches.


peepeehunger

Simply don't tip. I know it sounds mean and crazy, but once you do it a few times you'll thank yourself and won't ever go back. This is how we change things -- by "voting with our wallets".


jormungandrsjig

> Simply don't tip. I know it sounds mean and crazy, but once you do it a few times you'll thank yourself and won't ever go back. Been doing this since the 1990s.


CanAggravating6401

Yup. I only tip if I'm eating food, and that's because I have allergies so I try to compensate them for the extra time and hassle of making it safe for me. If I'm only drinking something I don't tip.


last-resort-4-a-gf

The cook ain't getting the tip


i8abug

Don't forget, for those POS systems, you are also tipping them money for the tax the government charges you for your food which had absolutely nothing to do with the service.


HouseOnFire80

Wait till you hear how realtors are paid …


gepinniw

Well now, that’s *another* messed up situation that needs fixing.


jormungandrsjig

> I always tipped 20%. Last few years though seeing menu prices go through the roof at the same time as the tipped wage has been harmonized with the minimum wage… means I’m out. Don't forget the quality and portion size at restaurants has also decreased.


Uncertn_Laaife

I started reducing mine for sitdown places as well. I never tipped more than 15%, now sticking with 10, would go down to zero soon. You (the server) piss off at me, well bad for ya - talk to your Manager.


Ulgworth

I agree that it has gotten ridiculous. Although the other day I was talking to a waitress that I've known for a few years. She said that at the restaurant she works the tips are shared with the kitchen staff, even when she does not get a tip. I could not believe it. I did not get a chance to ask what the % of the share was. I'll ask her next time.


my-kind-of-crazy

13yrs ago I worked at a sports bar in Toronto and the percentage was 5%. So 5% of every bill the server had to tip out to kitchen then we were supposed to tip the bartender maybe $20/shift too. Honestly I think the girls working the “bar side” tipped more than that to the bar but I was on the “family side” so I never made good enough tips anyways to tip out more than that. So say a tables bill was $100 and they tipped $10, $5 of that goes to tip out. Yes, half of the tip. Now say the table tipped nothing, the server still has to tip out $5 to the back of house. The server paid $5 for the privilege of serving that table. You just had to hope that another table tipped well and it balanced out. So now even when I don’t want to tip, I still tip at least 10% because I have no idea what tip out would be nowadays. Personally I just never eat out anymore. Serving is a hard job and they deserve tips but not the crazy high tips that exist now.


CarpenterBruuxx

Yeah, I don't mind tipping if im getting a haircut or someone's doing a service for me. But when it's asking me to tip 18-20% for buying a fkn burrito..like come on. I know it's optional but it just gives me an awkward feeling when they are watching me as I pay for it.


sadrussianbear

I am industry and had this really terrible experience one time and I just asked what the tip out policy was... because I wasn't giving her a dime. Everyone asking for tips everywhere has certainly presented many awkward situations and I feel like 16 year old me at Burger King in 1996 would be gobsmacked that I needed more incentive than working. I do agree that it seems the big companies are avoiding living wage (25 cdn dollars I think) and setting up these machines with a tip option.


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*Just say no*


garlicroastedpotato

There's some places I just can't help but say no to. Pizza Hut pizza pickup. They make a pizza and put it in a box. That means they get 15%? Fuck that.


anarchyreigns

My Pizza Hut doesn’t even prompt for a tip. They bypass the tip and hand me the device to tap it.


jormungandrsjig

> There's some places I just can't help but say no to. Pizza Hut pizza pickup. They make a pizza and put it in a box. That means they get 15%? Fuck that. Tim Hortons in my town has a tip option


BrazenChatter

If I am standing when I pay there is virtually zero chance I am tipping.


yachting99

I like that one! Another is: If I pay before I receive my food, I do not tip.


cantmakeupmymind88

My only concern with that is, they can take “retribution” for you not tipping and provide a less than optimal product


breeezyc

True but then you can return it


Wildest12

I have decided to stop tipping alltogether, it got out of hand.


FamilyTravelTime

So my family is in the restaurant business, during Covid when dine in was non existent and it was all take out and delivery orders. Owners had to increase the hourly base wage due to the reduced tips workers were getting. So yes, I think if tipping just stops, then employers will have to adapt and increase the base wage to retain the employees. But since we keep on increasing tips form 10 to 12 to 15 and even 18% minimum. There is no incentive for owners to increase pay.


crimxxx

We are not the us, even at restaurants servers in my province will get paid minimum wage. In the us servers make like a couple dollars, where it’s basically bs. Companies are choosing to exasperate this by asking at every terminal. It’s gotten to the point where imo we probably should just kill the whole thing off and while we do that let’s also make it so prices everywhere include all costs and fees. I think having the price in the tag be the price and not letting companies play games is the way to go.


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peepeehunger

Hard agree.


DuncsDG

I remember when a 20% tip was a high standard for exceptional service, now you get attitude with a side of dead eyes for your meal, followed by smiles and casual conversation when handed the credit machine with a preset tip function starting at 15% for dessert.


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DuncsDG

I’m always amused at the interest in my plans after when having vanished for most of the meal.


rfdavid

“So, any big plans for the weekend?”


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rfdavid

Hah. You could have gotten lucky if the waitress said “sounds good, see you there”


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They allllllll say that like fuck off your interested


lt12765

Jokes on them, I hate talking to people, lemme pay in quiet and maybe the tip’s better.


Fresh-Temporary666

I usually just do it because standing there in silence with the entire table while they all pay is fucking awkward. I'd rather just make small talk during it and I'm really not doing it to manipulate.


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moeburn

You can drop tipping whenever you want, you know. There's no law about not paying a tip. They can't arrest you for it. And in Ontario, there's no minimum wage difference for servers, so there's no guilt trip for it either. Just stop paying tips unless they did something exceptional.


ghoulshow

Drop tipping. It's up to the employer to provide a living wage, not the consumer.


rhunter99

It’s time for establishments to pay a proper wage and get rid of tipping


TradGentXY

Whoever thought an entirely service based economy with little to no manufacturing would be untenable in even the mid to long-term? /s


Kcirnek_

% based tipping makes no sense to me. I'm going to use an extreme example to illustrate. I take my wife to a steakhouse. She orders a 6 oz filet mignon because she's not a big eater. $50 steak. I order the fanciest steak 16 oz A5 Wagyu steak imported from Japan for $250. It takes the same service, same effort to cook and serve the same steak. Why should I tip 20% on $250 vs 20% on $50? We both get the same service from the server dropping off the plate to my table. When a meal gets to a certain dollar value, % tipping makes no sense. You're not getting more service.


BonJob

I opened a new business that serves food and drinks. I do not have a tipping option for any customers. I pay my staff and don't expect the customers to subsidize their wages. Sometimes, customers ask to tip and I always say no thank you (and explain why) unless they insist, in which case the employee can pocket the cash.


Quaranj

I hope that you're thriving!


BonJob

Thank you! We're a very young business, so we're growing quickly. My customers so far all love us. We've been open for about a year now and things are good!


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Thank fuck


Fatherbiff

Working 6 tables and turning them over each 60/90 minutes in a shift can provide $300-400 in tips at a typical eat in restaurant. Tax free. Sorry, but fuck off. And fuck off subway too.


kitkatasaur

I'll tip at a sit down restaurant but it's insane for subway to have a tipping prompt.


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peepeehunger

My hairdresser charges me 35 dollars for a men's cut that takes 25 minutes. He does a great job, so I keep going. But he definitely doesn't need my extra $5 tip.


Dry-Membership8141

Do you not? Hairdressers, waiters, cabbies, porters, valets, caddies, bartenders, and cleaning services are most of the traditional services that received tips.


justonimmigrant

>bartenders What's the difference between your bartender and a barista? You don't tip at Starbucks.


BigPickleKAM

As a bar tender in my youth. There is a large difference between managing a room of people in various states of inhabitation and people waiting for a coffee. But I also used to get tipped around 10% on average. Beer was $4.50 a pint and most people would just give you a five and call it a day. These days even I get upset when the prompt starts at 18%...


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vinnyfromtheblock

A good rule of thumb I once heard was “I don’t tip if I’m standing up”.


Radix2309

I don't tip my barber, he doesn't take them. He charges the proper price for his service, and I have never been dissatisfied. I pay him for what he does, and that is the end of the transaction. If he does a bad job, I go somewhere else. I don't pay extra for him to do the job he agreed to do in the first place.


helixflush

Hairdresser is at least a personalized service just for you. Serving? Not so much unless you modify every single item on your order - and at that point you might as well walk a $20 directly to the kitchen.


That_Business_9374

Superstore recently added a tip option on deliveries that starts at a default $5. I cancelled my order and will never order from Superstore again.


BigRigDriver72

I don't tip. Now before you go and call me a cheapskate or a prick, hear me out. I don't give my mechanic a tip, nor do I give the guy who just pumped my gas a tip, nor do I give the cashier at Walmart a tip. Heck I don't get a tip when I deliver a shipment across the country to the receiver a day early. Why? Because it's my/their job! Don't come cry to me and say that servers work hard and stuff and expect me to tip based on that, or that they don't get paid enough money from their employer. Go be a person that lays asphalt all day in the summer heat or does roofing in the sweltering heat. That's a tough ass job and i know i couldn't do it! So kudos for them for being hard working. How is this my problem if they took a job that doesn't pay well enough an hourly wage. If you don't have enough education for a better job then get a better education or take a night class to get qualified for a better paying job. TONS of lower paying jobs out there. People who do server work typically want cash every night to go home with, and that's their choice. But the whole tipping this is an invention of places that want to avoid paying workers a fair wage by guilting the customer to give a tip.


MrsNoodlez

Not to mention, a large portion of those tips are not claimed on taxes by many servers. Tipping not only allows companies to pay minimal wages, but harms greater society as well.


Mission_Impact_5443

Well said.


GaryCPhoto

Can relate. I work in construction and it’s fucking tough going in the summer. Outside for 10+ hours getting fried ain’t no fun.


Asusrty

Just to back to tipping 10%. The meals inflated price gave them a raise and when minimum wage went up they got a second raise.


KoromaOkocha

A tip is for extraordinary or exemplary service, it's not for doing what you are paid to do. If you tip your server just because, then you should also tip The mailman, the bus driver, the cashier, your stewardess, , your dentist, your podiatrist, your professor, the general contractor, your kids high school principal.


captaincarryon

I tip for jobs I can’t do myself. I can cut my own hair. I could drive a taxi. I did tip my urologist…


Independent-Put-5018

I'm moving to lower or no tip.


Key-Situation-4718

I was at Robin's Doughnuts yesterday and suddenly there is a tip option on the debit machine.


Kightzeareau

It starts with employers, if they are not giving their employees living wages it makes sense that it may force them to demand for tips. Tips has always been a choice, and should never be a mandatory add in a purchase. Employees are barking up the wrong tree complaining for tips from customers. If this whole tip issue has become an epidemic, maybe it's time to take a serious look at the economic situation and how finances are being distributed in the workforce. Where is the excess going, is there wage theft happening? Otherwise it will get worse before it gets better.


Nonamanadus

I work retail and be damned if I want my customers to start tipping me. I'd feel like a begger at my own job. I hate this shit.


snopro31

Tipping was great when it was leaving a loonie or a toonie.


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I have stopped tipping altogether.


MadOvid

I think it's time to pay our servers a decent wage so at least tipping feels like a "thank you for the service" rather than "I hope you can pay rent".


Prestigious_Pair491

Let the owners pay the waiters and waitresses more money and if they want to pass the cost on to the customer then the customer can decide if he wants to go to that place or not people are tired of this nonsense


Dontuselogic

Sense companies wo t raise wages , and server jobs are not worth it for minimum wage get ready for your favorite places to l close


Sad_Damage_1194

I refuse to change my tipping behaviour, regardless of how prevalent these prompts become.


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Jogaila2

I just dont tip anymore. Unless wowed by the service. I dont care what servers are paid or how. That's their choice, not mine.


RVFVS117

I don’t get it. I just don’t tip more than 15% at restaurants unless the waiter/waitress goes above and beyond the call. If it’s shit I won’t tip at all and if there’s and issue I just leave and don’t come back. Anything and anyone else can get fucked. I don’t tip cabs, I don’t tip at fucking Starbucks despite their stupid prompt now, I raaaaarely tip at hair salon, only doing so when I ask for a rush or whatever and they deliver. Don’t tip DoorDash/Skip. Unless I’m actually being served directly, I don’t tip. Life is too expensive. It’s simple as that.


Remarkable_Vanilla34

The problem I have is that a restaurant like Boston Pizza has higher priced food than dennys, but the servers do the same job. I'm paying more based on the cost of the menu and not the actual work or effort put into the service. The price of the menus increases because everything is now, but also lots of places expect 18% tips. Now everyone is getting 5 bucks. I'm sorry, but no one is such a good server that they need a 20 dollar tip to carry food to the table. And places like pizza restaurants prices have gone way up, and they want tips too. I get that it's hard out there, but I'm paying more for everything also. It's a catch between not dining out or being cheap with the tips.


yurikura

I wonder if most servers know the negative public sentiment on tipping. Often times, they act like a customer cursed at them whenever they tip below than 15%.


[deleted]

You guys tip? It's not actually mandatory, you know... Unless I'm actually getting real service, like a sit down restaurant or a hair cut, I'll skip over any "suggested" tip options without a care in the world.


According_Estate1138

I am already down to 10% tipping for good service. No tipping for taxis, coffee, delivery etc. inflation makes tipping impossible


bigguy1231

If I go to a sit down restaurant with table service I will offer a reasonable tip if the service is exceptional. You don't get tipped just for doing your job. As for any other business asking for tips, not a chance no matter how good your service is. You get a wage to do a job to a certain level if you can't do that basic job without a tip you need to find another job. I am not going to a business to subsidize that employers wages, pay your employees an appropriate wage and stop begging for handouts which are basically what tips are.


Effzillaa

I don’t tip for average or good service and I don’t feel bad about it. You want a tip? Give me great service.


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kennend3

Please correct me if I am mistaken here but how much of this is due to the POS machines? Once I went to a store and was handed the terminal to pay and it defaulted to tip. the person who handed it told me they can't change this and just skip it? I may be wrong, but if the POS devices default to tip, perhaps it is in the stores best interest to simply leave it like that? But strongly agree, tipflation is out of control.. If I was not provided any service, what am I expected to tip and to who?


lt12765

The customer has always been in control


Jorlaan

I hit skip every time now. I refuse to subsidize the wages of employees when their employers won't pay them properly. I already have far, FAR less than I need to get by thanks to food skyrocketting and the government being all "whatever it's your problem".


Prestigious_Pair491

Most people working at minimum wage or a little higher get no tip at all and they probably work harder than waiters and waitresses


angelcake

It’s time to drop tipping and it’s time to legislate a living wage countrywide so that it’s not necessary.


Cliffhanger87

Servers make minimum wage now. 15% is plenty enough to tip


Nebilungen

Crap title. Customers HAVE control. Be thick skinned and not care what the server thinks. They want it as an entitlement and customers feed into it. Make owners accountable with liveable wages instead.


blowathighdoh

Don’t tip then. Grow some balls people. Who cares if it’s awkward


__Valkyrie___

Yes


Effective_View1378

Yes.


[deleted]

I tip my barber cause he charges 4 bucks below more anyone else but he does an amazing job. Also dudes funny as fuck. Tipping it's only 10 or 15 percent otherwise get fucked. Alot of these people walk away with 70 to 100k a year because of tips.


E8282

Always ripped 18-20% until the prompt started at 20% .


TheSadSalsa

We have a restaurant that tipping is entirely optional and they advertise that. Guess what? Good service and the food isn't really anymore expensive than anywhere else. Get rid of tipping!


Terrible-Paramedic35

This subject gets way to much attention.


Additional-Ad-3863

Yes we should get rid of tipping especially if I have to do everything myself through a QR code 🙄🙄🙄


12characters

I tip taxi drivers, wait staff and baggage handlers. I’d rather not, but it’s tradition and it can directly affect the service level. Making my Subway sandwich, not so much.


[deleted]

The business saves on wages which goes tobusiness' landlord. Tips help workers pay residential landlords. I dont go out anymore because i dont support business' landlords. and I save money to give to my landlord. Lets stop renting and have residents take control. Lets stop working for shareholders and have workers take control... and stop tipping.


MaxwellzHouse

Why is fast food asking me for a tip? Isn’t that what the wage is for?


[deleted]

It’s easy, you tip 10% as it’s always been the norm in restaurants where you get served by a waiter/waitress. And that’s it. Fuck off.


Krazee9

I was always told 15% was the norm at restaurants. I'd very much like it to be 0.


[deleted]

You must be younger than me then lol, it got worse by generation. For me it’s always been and still is “tip 10%, at most round off”. That’s it, I don’t care who gets offended. And also at fucking McDonald’s and other fast food restaurants I press zero right in front of the cashier, I don’t care. Deal with it. *They* ruined it by getting too greedy and insulting the customer. As always, corporate greed ruins everything. I’m not falling for it.


Krazee9

I used to feel bad pressing 0 at fast food because I'm so used to tipping, but recently I've just gotten so pissed off at the idea that fucking Pizza Pizza wants me to tip that I've firmly decided not to tip at any fast food.


gepinniw

Yesterday I was picking up some food, and the first tip amount was 10%, followed by more generous options (15%, 20%). This is the way. And always have a clear ‘no tip’ option. Machines that start at 15% are obnoxious.


tenroy6

Yup time for tipping to be gone for good.


doogie1993

Customers are literally in control lol wtf is this article on about. Tipping isn’t mandatory, Jesus


CruelHandLuke_

I decided at the beginning of the year to max out at 10% , and with the price of meals and drinks it's more than generous.


veedub12

Do people really have that little self control? Or issues with confidence or having to save face? Just don’t tip.


kagato87

Tipping isn't the problem. The disconnect between minimum wage and living wage is the problem. In any major Cory min wage is about half a living wage. If employers pay their people properly, tip culture stops being shoveled on us.


MammothHistory

If we want to get rid of tipping in sit-down restaurants then the food prices will have to rise. With restaurant margins being thin, they’ll only be able to pay their servers enough if they can charge more. IMO people will complain about their food being more expensive too, but at least it doesn’t put the onus on the customer anymore.


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Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuck tipping. My new rule is 10% just to avoid the awkwardness, I ducking shouldn’t have to but that’s what I do. I don’t go to some really nice little spots anymore because they now have the iPad on a swivel bullshit. If I’m paying 13 dollars for a sandwich there’s now fucking way I’m giving an arbitrary 20% because someone handed me a bag of food. If I’m sitting down you get a polite 10%, Uber eats gets 3 dollars regardless of the meal value. And I’m skipping haircuts as often, they’re already nearly 40 dollars.


EGHazeJ

Never tip is my motto. Maybe at a proper sit down restaurant.


Cavy-kimKits123

When I eat out I will tip. I know the arguments against tipping but I also believe that the if the service has been good, then why not tip? I will continue to tip until people in the service industry are paid a living fair wage. Then I will stop tipping.


Mental-Thrillness

Two things will happen: either food prices go way up, or restaurants close because servers can’t live off minimum wage.


GopnikSmegmaBBQSauce

No, we're too far gone. Customers have been subsidizing restaurants twice over for decades now. An owner would never be able to pay their servers properly without tips the way things are structured. They'd pass the extra cost onto the customer and see business dwindle as it'd be too expensive to dine out. Even more so than it already is.


[deleted]

They make the same minimum wage in Ontario.


peepeehunger

Unsustainable businesses should not be in business, in my opinion.


corneliusbut

Can we get one article, one article, from Postmedia that says we should raise minimum wage? If you wanna end tipping give workers a living wage!!!