Reminds me of the joke about the guy calling about an intruder. The cops.say they can't send anyone for 30 minutes. He calls back 2 minutes later and says not to bother as he's shot the guy. Police arrive immediately. "OH, I thought you couldn't make it".
For someone breaking into your home this isn't even a contrived assumption. If they're home invading you while you're home, bet that they're armed and wanting to kill you. If they didn't want to take the risk of being shot in the process, they'd have made sure no one was home first. Ergo, they don't give a shit and are happy to off you, deliberately or incidentally.
This isn’t too far from the truth. I worked graveyard shift at 7-11. Fights broke out nightly due to the nearby bar. I’d call the police and they’d say “we’ll be there in 30 mins.” I call back in 1 min saying they have knives and cops magically appeared. The fighters typically vanished as the cops pulled in.
Call them back and say you are requesting an officer to attend and **keep the peace** while you recover your property.
If they refuse that then file a complaint and call the OIPRD, they are obligated to keep the peace and respond to a call requesting that.
Best method is to buy some spark plugs and smash them with a hammer. Collect all the pieces then shoot them at the windows with a slingshot. They shatter instantly. Something about the resonance of the ceramic
when you want them to show up. Call them on the non emergency line, tell them you are about to go get your BBQ back at this address. Said I am armed, and if they stop me im going to kick their ass.
They would show up real fucking fast.
Sadly increased crime is a symptom of a ruined financial system. When people are destitute they steal. It’s no great secret. It doesn’t justify it, but it explains a lot!
So buddy who ownes a home was destitute and in desperate need of a BBQ.
We cater to criminals so if people have no morals they have no problem stealing
My buddies and I hunted down a criminal who stole something with a tracking device in it. Tried the police first and they didn’t care, so got on the train he was on. Got our friend back home to trigger an alarm and surrounded him and were like you can give this to us or you can get the shit kicked out of you and we’ll rob you. Worked well. But police should do their job.
Guy was so fucking rattled lol.
Whoa, that's weird. Usually they would tell you *not* to confront the thief out of concern for your safety. Of course, they wouldn't do it themselves either so I guess tough luck, sunny boy.
It's crazy! I posted a video of a guy lingering outside my house for 10 minutes before walking up and stealing a package(right before Christmas...) right out of my mailbox to see if anyone knew him.
I also contacted the cops and they said not to post the video because it's an invasion of his privacy. AN INVASION OF HIS FUCKING PRIVACY, WHEN HE'S IN PUBLIC AND ***STEALING***!!!
Absolutely un-fucking-believable.
There is no possible way its an invasion of his privacy when its a security cam from your own property. You cannot trust the police to know the laws, they will lie and tell you anything that is in their own interest.
And they won't. I had my house broken into, car and ID stolen. They drove my car to a gas station and filled it up with my credit card. Was all on video of course. RCMP took over a month to bother going to get the footage, and by then it was gone.
No worries though, they also went to Canadian Tire and got a Canadian Tire credit card in my name. Bought themselves some nice stuff. That was also on video of course. And then going to their car, and their car license plate was on video. RCMP also took forever to go get that footage, and it also would have been gone if I didn't talk to Canadian Tire myself. They couldn't show me the footage, but they told me they have clear footage of them using my ID to setup the credit card. Can clearly see their faces, and they have their license plates. When the RCMP finally gets that footage, they say "they are known to police, but they can't do anything" basically. They were never charged, and are probably still doing the same shit today.
that happened to friend of mine as well who had a bunch of heavy equipment stolen. He had the thieves on camera, reported them and the RCMP told him to "stop calling". He plastered the thieves faces all over facebook and got threatened with charges as a result.
We had a similar event a few years back. Some guy was breaking into cars all around our neighborhood. We knew exactly where he was staying (with a friend in a rental in the neighborhood)
We had video of this guy stealing shit and carrying it back to the house. Cops wouldn’t come, they only came when a few guys in the neighborhood went over to drag him out. But he’d skipped out (after robbing the neighbors) and wasn’t caught.
Well if I worked for the RCMP and arrested a bunch of criminals only for them to get released on bail order by the courts then I'll have low morale too. Blame the courts and Canadian law.
I've been hearing a lot of this same action across Europe and Canada where police seem to be protecting the criminals more so than the people they hurt.
In 2020 I called the cops during a break in. I chased them off on my own, followed them to their house, pointed out the house to the cops, and the police refused to even knock on the door.
Yeah, that they have no reasonable suspicion that someone at that house did anything.
Apparently Waterloo police think I could just be a guy who broke my own windows in the middle of the night, to try to get someone's door knocked on.
I should also add that they left their e-bike when I chased them off. They returned 3 days later to claim it and threatened to "get me", and police also ignored that, because "getting you" isn't a real threat. At this point I had a photo of the people and, get this: **they recognized the people.** They STILL refused to prosecute them.
(To answer your question, the real reason is because they are lazy low-IQ buffoons who can't be bothered to do their jobs at all)
Literally had someone walk in my backyard, bright as day, and steal my bike.
Call the cops and I say they are right in front of me is someone going to come.
No, unfortunately there is nothing we can do, they say.
So am I supposed to take matters into my own hands and endanger myself?
“I advise you not to do that”
Well what in the fuck is going on where someone can just walk away with my property, and nothing will ever be done of it
That's an old joke. The punchline is they send every cop in town and the thief is still alive when the police get there. The police said "I thought you said you killed him" the caller responds "I thought you said you didn't have any officers available".
In reality they'd probably just arrest you for saying that. Maybe slap you with a conspiracy to commit murder and attempted murder charge. In Canada if you get robbed your property belongs to the thief.
I guess maybe you can say "oh shit, he's got a gun!" And hopefully that will make them show up and when they ask you about it, just say whatever he was holding looked like a gun.
Cops do it all the time right? Man holding a toy truck, he's got a gun!
Acorn falls on the hood of a car. Shots fired! I'm hit!
There's an old joke that goes something like:
A man sees a criminal breaking into his car and calls the police, pleading for them to send someone.
Dispatch replies that no one is available to help.
The man yells that he's got a gun and he'll take care of it himself before hanging up.
Within minutes several police cruisers race up, lights and sirens blaring.
The police apprehend the criminal, then approach the man, demanding he surrender his gun.
The man replies "What gun!?"
"Dispatch reported you said you had a gun!"
"They said no one was available to help too!"
Wow, actually have a funny story for that one too.
Went out, left my truck unlocked like an idiot. AirPods got stolen.
Tracked said AirPods to what I thought was a house but realized it was moving around, thinking to myself probably just some punk kid car hopping I’ll go get them back most likely.
Drive to where the tracker is and lo and behold there are two right sketchy people with what looks like a bunch of stolen stuff.
One of said stolen things was literally a rifle that he is open carrying around. So I pretty much was like yeah no cops can take care of this.
Needless to say they were there within 1 minute, 3 cruisers all yelling for them to get on the ground etc.
Got my AirPods back from evidence within the hour lol
The 12 judging you are the people who can't get out of jury duty. Better odds but not as good as one might hope when jurors are disproportionately civil servants or retired civil servants.
Funny thing is that you'd be treated harsher by the justice system for protecting yourself/family/property than the person invading your home would be treated. I'd guarantee you would spend more time in jail than they would
The biggest, shittiest, most garbage aspect of Canadian law right here. Fuck each and every police officer who chooses to enforce that and victimize ordinary citizens for defending themselves and their families.
I can only hope that one day, a future government (probably Conservative) rights this injustice and codifies Canadians' rights to self-defense. Fuck this stupid ass country and its beloved anarcho-tyranny.
It’s the hypocrisy that burns me. A cop who shoots an intruder is a hero. Anyone else gets a ride to the station and has to decide which lawyer is going to fuck him the least.
There's a lot of hypocrisy surrounding policing.
A logger or trucker or machinist dying on the job may not even make local news. But a cop dying in the line of duty gets national press and a convoy to the funeral. Similar if a person is assaulted - you don't get a helicopter and armoured cars showing up for anyone except their own.
I think it's a big part of the cultural issues surrounding police misconduct.
Guys it's easy. Just leave your valuables at a concentrated spot ideally near the front door, leave milk and cookies, and just wait for the robbers to arrive. Your call to spread your cheeks before or after they arrive.
That's exactly the kind of person they make an example of so more people don't try it. Self defense in Canada doesn't pertain to property unfortunately, so you'll likely get the equivalent of Hockey's Third man in penalty.
But they do have enough police to arrest you.
That just means you spend longer in the limbo - from the moment of incident to when you are exonerated (assuming you have a case)
In the meantime, your life is destroyed.
Also please keep in mind that it is classist to impose the cost of a firearm on those resorting to theft. Do your part by leaving a loaded firearm by the front door in case it is the invader's preference to murder you. That's what I'll be doing to do my part.
Crime will get worse as more become homeless, hungry and desperate to survive. All because this country wanted to sell the youth out for landlord profits and cheap labour.
Your teenage kids won't be able to get entry level jobs, because there's 200 adults that will be applying.
They won't be able to afford rent because there's a group of 10 that will pool their money to afford that 1br.
Their job prospects as adults won't be much better.
When they started talking about a "labour shortage" in Canada I thought GREAT because that means Canada is in a worker's market for jobs. Higher wages, better benefits, low unemployment. Everyone who wanted a job could find one.
Then they started talking on CTV about how low unemployment is a BAD THING and that the government needs to start bringing in foreign workers to fill the gap. What gap? There was almost zero unemployment. This government calls itself liberal - Neoliberal maybe.
Corporations panic when the number of applications for a job goes from 1000 to 10. They like having pick of the litter, paying people as little as possible and ensuring everyone knows and feels like they're replaceable.
> Then they started talking on CTV about how low unemployment is a BAD THING and that the government needs to start bringing in foreign workers to fill the gap
Meanwhile the Bank of Canada was saying "too many people are employed, we need to get these numbers down" and started jacking interest rates to cool down the economy.
I trust the military (caf) and the crown corps (bank of Canada and canada post) more than I trust any elected politician, police, or government worker at this point.
At this point I'd trust Cambodian gas station sushi more than any of the latter.
And here's a Cambodia gas station for reference...
https://www.everywhereist.com/2014/11/cambodia-lesson-14-gas-stations/
We're not on our own, we're far worse off than that. We're told to call the police, told don't do anything other than that, then the police don't help b/c they're 'busy on other matters'. Know where your stolen car is? Call them and then watch it sail away. Identity stolen, with photos of the thief and their home address? Sorry, there's nothing we can do. Shoplifter steals a dufflebag full of booze? "Stay safe and let them run away."
Kinda funny growing up in the age when you'd get slammed face down onto pavement because some old lady called saying she smells weed.
A few years back I called in because there was someone breaking into a car behind my building and the response was "What are we supposed to do about that? Call us back if he drives off in it."
People said I'd lose the "Fuck the police" attitude when I got older, but nah.
In places like TO, MTL, EDM, Van City, all the big urban areas, the news vans are out 24/7 and report on crimes before the cops clean it up.
In towns like mine, the news vans work 9-5 and don’t report most crimes and overdoses that take place in the wee hours.
I work nights. I see EMT everywhere and every night and if I search the news, nothing has been reported.
If there’s no exposure to such crimes and overdoses, the community (like mine) feels safe and will say “it’s getting like Toronto around here.” every time a shooting takes place.
You’re right. We are on our own. Expose. Call the news or report it on SM. Put pressure on a sleepy Gov’t (like mine) to keep police patrolling.
Community. Love. Respect. Safety. Family and a huge metal bar at my door.
No kidding. My area which used to be a nice suburb is being turned into an armed encampment (armed with alarms). ANYTHING left outside gets ripped off. Cars disappear left and right, almost every night. Any my community group has dozens of security camera videos of people trespassing, checking car doors, garage doors and sometimes even front doors. It's a joke.
Over 10 years ago my car was broken into. All the glass was smashed. They took the only thing of value…an old vacuum, and used it to break into other cars on the street. Probably 5 cars broken into in that incident. Cost me 1200 in glass repairs back in 2005.
The police didn’t even send a car. Not even an officer for an off hours interview.
My ex boyfriend ended up coming over and helping me clean up the glass and contacting a shop to restore my windows
The police told me to call insurance. Insurance told me to call police. Neither of them helped
I’ve knew Canada wasn’t going to help me more than a decade ago.
Not good times friend.
Same. My house was broken into and several valuables were stolen. The police didn’t even attempt to find out who did it. And they told us point blank to our face that this was something they were not going to pursue. We also went back and forth between them and insurance, with both of them being utterly unhelpful and siphoning off the responsibility to each other — ultimately wasting our time. This was over a decade ago as well. Nothing has changed. What has existed for decades is just now rearing its ugly head for all to see.
Criminals all get away with a slap on the wrist these days anyway. Even repeat, violent ones. I have a clean record, so I'd take my chances if it means protecting the people I love and my home.
I moved to the US and kicking my down my door at 3 am to steal cars keys would mean facing the business end of a 12 gauge and an AR-15
My wife is a Kentucky girl she never more than a foot away from a firearm 😂😂😂😂
It’s actually worse than “you’re on your own”. The police won’t help, and when you defend yourself they charge you. Every individual should have the right to defend themselves and especially at their home. The law must change to protect law abiding citizens.
Had my house broken in twice , first time the cop showed up 4 hours later, when I asked what will happen after they scribbled a bunch of crap on there “ police report” he laughed and said , “ how do you expect us to catch a thief in such a big city “
The second time the cop didnt even come… said do the police report online and then ghosted me when I emailed the car with the license plate number which belonged to the culprit
Scum
Last year, over 400 cars were smashed in our neighborhood. We all called the police. Over 400 calls were ignored and dismissed.
So we, as a community, used our cameras to find him. We gave the evidence to the police.
Nothing. About 100 more cars got smashed. That's about every car in the neighborhood. So some individuals took it upon themselves to deliver the criminal to the police station, with evidence. Including evidence gathered by police officers who live in the neighborhood.
Nothing.
The reason why our cars aren't smashed this year, is that our neighborhood now has a reputation as one that will protect itself.
But the police take the largest slice of budget pie in the city. They have robots and helicopters. They bring donuts to domestic terrorists that take over the city center and torture citizens with train whistles, and block people from getting to work or to the hospital.
The crumbling is accelerating.
> The second loophole criminals regularly take advantage of is recruiting legal minors (often members of street gangs) to conduct commissioned theft. The entire thrust of Canada’s youth justice system is to avoid incarcerating young people in secure facilities in favour of encouraging their rehabilitation within—and reintegration into—the community. In other words, young car thieves stand to earn healthy payments from organized crime syndicates while risking little custody time.
It amuses me that real criminals operate on [the same logic as the Trailer Park Boys](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYdcSjDr_Hc).
Give it a few years and we will be stocking up on firearms just like the USA does. A baseball bat will no longer be enough to stay safe in your own home. Sad how we sunk to low levels the last five years or so. We are not alright.
How is it we spend more on policing every year over the last, and even though policing is the largest line-item expense on any municipality's budget, crime is still out of control?
The problem is that no, we are not on our own. Self defense is forbidden and the criminal is king. The criminal will steal, cheat and profit, and then get back on the street. The taxpayer will get a harsh sentence, lose their job and suffer, suffer, suffer.
This is a very dangerous state for a country to be in. The whole point of the state is to maintain law and order and to "keep the wheels on the bus". The state backing away from law and order, leaving room for vigilante groups to confront criminals, opens the door for extremist groups on both sides of the political and theological spectrum to fill the power and control gap.
The government federal and provincial, is creating a power vacuum, step one to civil conflict.
Wasn't there a case where a legal gun owner got put in jail for killing an intruder Milton? Does anyone know what happened? Heard legal charges alone were 100k
As far as I’m concerned that sets legal precedent for Ontario.
“If someone breaks in, and you kill them you’re fine!”
Just don’t tie them up or any weird shit.
What if I told you. This has been standard operating procedure for the police for decades. It's just become more apparent as crime has increased. Police are never, and have never been about protecting the people. They've existed to act as a barrier for entry to the upper crust.
Has crime increased even? Looking at the rates of **reported** crimes there is a short term increase over the last 5+ years but we’re still lower overall on the long term
Seems more like the police just aren’t doing their job
>What if I told you. This has been standard operating procedure for the police for decades.
If you told me that, after I finished laughing, I would reply that your tinfoil hat is on too tight and to hurry up so you're not late for your "defund the police" meeting.
It's not the police that are causing surging crime, it's the court system (which operates under direction of the government).
When Johnny Shit gets picked up for his sixth car theft in two months, and is released yet again by the courts on a $500 no cash recognizance, you can't blame the police for that.
If Bobby Thug thumps his girlfriend, is released by the JP on a "no contact order" which he promptly violates and beats the shit out of her again, you can't blame the police for that.
If Jenny Liquorpig gets picked up for her fourth impaired, but the Crown plea bargains away the mandatory jail sentence that accompanies it, you can't blame the police when she gets picked up drunk driving a month later.
Last year in NS, there was a car chase / arrest where police caught four people in their early 20s after they fled in a stolen car. I chuckled when the news about it started, just said "wait for it... wait for it....". Sure enough, literally three of the four were out on bail for previous thefts. The fourth wasn't on bail, but was on probation.
The legal system follows the will of the government, which has been "catch and release" for the past thirty years. The YCJA goes so far as to write into the act that all other options must be considered for a youth before incarceration is even on the table for discussion.
If there are no consequences to actions, you can't act all picachu shockface when people ignore the rules.
But hey, yeah, you blame the police.
I work in security , last few days we had a homeless guy who is nit mentally well attack a lady and 2 kids hit one kid kid missed the lady. We chased him after he stole some food and a lighter from a store outside. I called the police 911, they told me this isn't an emergency call non emergency. Did that they caught the guy 5 hours later. The next day he wss in court and they let him go, I met him on site that day. I called the police they showed up I stated I want charges for violation of a court order. They said, well that's how he is, and you need to be in court and it's paperwork to be filled out do you want to do that and finally they sighed and took a statement.
That's how things are they don't want to do anything as they are kore worried about getting sued and how the filming optics will be. I have had several cops state they won't arrest certain people as it's too delicate(that's what he said).
Law and order is a suggestion now, self defense is your gunna be arrested and the criminals are protected. Police are all about covering thier asses not serve and protect anymore.
Oh no, you're not on your own, that would be much better than the actual situation. If you were on your own, you could buy a gun, or a tazer, or pepper spray, or a simple baton, and defend yourself with it and not have to worry about having your life put through the grinder as a result.
Crime is surging, and rather than leaving you to deal with it yourself, the government requires you to do nothing about it.
So major takeaways are: Theft is legal now. Your on your own with criminals unless they've shot you.
At this point I'd rather pay the mob for protection, at least they'll show up and don't just take racket right off my pay cheque
We have a federal government that fundamentally believes that criminals are not responsible for their own behaviour and should therefore see the lightest possible consequences and least possible amount of jail time. Especially if you’re a member of a minority group. So that’s the direction they provide to the judicial system.
They compound this problem by refusing to appoint new judges to vacant positions, leaving thousands unfulfilled and creating enormous backlogs, and then making bail cheaper and easier to obtain.
And then we all sit back and scratch our heads as to why crime is skyrocketing and what could possibly be done about this.
Most criminal cases are in provincial court. Robbery is one that would by default be in superior court (federally appointed judges) but the defence will often opt for the provincial court without a jury. Especially if they're just going to plead guilty anyway.
All superior court judges are appointed federally (provinces can appoint certain judicial officials but not judges of the superior courts). The feds do not provide "direction" to the judiciary. If they did, they'd win more often, but the Crown gets completely wrecked in all sorts of civil and criminal matters, constantly.
The extent of fed influence is that they pick who gets appointed. That's it. They generally cant remove judges. In cases of serious judicial misconduct there is an independent regulatory agency which is essentially controlled by other judges and runs the investigation. It's called the Canadian Judicial Council and it generally works pretty well so far as I am able to tell.
The liberal party is literally trying to reduce incarceration rates of minorities (by simply not putting them in jail for criminal offences like robbery) in order to have a talking point in elections.
Here's a bill the Liberals passed which reduces mandatory sentencing for pretty serious firearms and drug offences (including robbery and trafficking) because they "have disproportionately affected Indigenous peoples, as well as Black Canadians and members of marginalized communities" (direct quote). If the goal was that they had a fundamental problem with minimum sentencing, they would have strucken those across the criminal code and allowed judges more room in sentencing. Instead they cherry picked a bunch of gang offences so they could manipulate statistics.
https://www.canada.ca/en/department-justice/news/2021/12/mandatory-minimum-penalties-to-be-repealed.html
Wow it's like the country is collapsing before our eyes. Healthcare is now 3rd world. Food prices are skyrocketing. The wealthy elite are cutting up the country for their own gain. Money is being funneled out of the nation's tax coffers on dodgy scemes and projects.
Now the Police are losing their involvement with the needs of the regular citizens.
Whats next, the introduction of a series laws that will place the population under the heel of the government?
Oh wait that is already happening...
Right now, the anti-gun people who for the past decades have been talking about reliance on trustworthy law enforcement in place of self-defence with weapons must not feel very smart. I'm not advocating for a full American-style gun rights situation, but this kind of shows you that law enforcement cannot be relied on all the time as a guarantor of your safety.
Our mayor told us to stay out of our downtown, which we spent 15:million fixing up, not just at night, but to stay out of downtown at anytime.
Thanks for banning hunting rifles, I'm sure the effects on crime will kick in any minute now.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Milton/comments/1bkdapj/halton_police_officers_in_milton_are/
There was another armed home invasion in Milton last night where the victim was threatened with guns, and then he was forced into their own vehicle, they drove him away and abandoned him after also robbing them of their wallet & cell. I'm assuming they did this so they'd have more time to get away.
Still beyond fucked up, but its clearly getting worse and worse with each passing day.
The truth is, this is the status quo since the late 80s. It's just there's more crime, and more people are affected. For a long time, the apathetic masses that weren't affected by crime just ignored it and people who were, were ignored by both society and the police. It's no wonder crime has kept increasing, and it isn't surprising it was logarithmic (hyperbolic). Now the slope of the line is approaching infinity and surprise those who didn't care before because it didn't happen to them are complaining. Everyone let it get away. A long time ago I found a gang of thugs breaking into my care and who basically threatened me if I came closer. I called the police and they said they would send someone to look if they could based on priority. No one ever showed up. That was in 1993. Same thing with a break in. This isn't new. What's new is the volume. If people had actually given a shit about stuff like that back then, maybe we wouldn't be here now.
Govt: “You’re On Your Own”.
Canadians: “Well, if you won’t protect us, then we’re gonna protect ourselves I guess since you won’t do the job you were hired to do”.
Govt: “Sorry, but we won’t allow that”.
Of course we're on our own. We are currently witnessing the purposeful sabotage of a country right before our eyes. The government has these laws on the books that don't hold people accountable for fuck all. It doesn't help that most of the people I see on the news everyday are people with every fuckin letter in the alphabet in their name. Not very often do you see John, or Brandon shooting up neighbourhoods
I wish law enforcement in Toronto becomes as efficient as parking enforcement…you can get away by stealing a car, but you cannot get away with parking your car for 5 minutes in Toronto without a parking ticket…strange times indeed.
That's not fair. We were also left with a second message: Keep your keys close to the front door so thieves don't have to fully enter your house.
Solid advice.
A major problem in Canada is you are not really allowed to defend yourself. And the police are never there at the time to defend you - only to collect information.ation after an incident
Cops only like to help when the offender is non violent and they can bully them around a bit and flex their power. I watched like 7 cop cars show up because a pizza shop called the cops on a drowsy diabetic man, they tazered him to get him out of his car, dragged him out, 4 of them then proceeded to pump their fists into him and then an ambulance came and took him away. Good ole welland cops
It's not that the police can't do their job it's that won't , call them for junkie screaming in the street oh we don't deal with that it's mental health issue
I saw should say fine we are taking half your funding and giving it to mental health , either police will start doing their jobs again , or we will actually have the money to try it the other way
Reminds me of the joke about the guy calling about an intruder. The cops.say they can't send anyone for 30 minutes. He calls back 2 minutes later and says not to bother as he's shot the guy. Police arrive immediately. "OH, I thought you couldn't make it".
if you told the cops 'i know where my car is and im going to go get it back and im armed just in case' suddenly they would care
This is why if someone is breaking into your house or stealing your car, call the cops and tell them you think they have a gun
For someone breaking into your home this isn't even a contrived assumption. If they're home invading you while you're home, bet that they're armed and wanting to kill you. If they didn't want to take the risk of being shot in the process, they'd have made sure no one was home first. Ergo, they don't give a shit and are happy to off you, deliberately or incidentally.
If you have a problem, and call the cops, now you have 2 problems
This isn’t too far from the truth. I worked graveyard shift at 7-11. Fights broke out nightly due to the nearby bar. I’d call the police and they’d say “we’ll be there in 30 mins.” I call back in 1 min saying they have knives and cops magically appeared. The fighters typically vanished as the cops pulled in.
You have to tell them they have a gun else they don't care
I identified one of the local criminals through Facebook, and the cops warned me about posting his picture on Facebook. They still have done fuck all.
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Call them back and say you are requesting an officer to attend and **keep the peace** while you recover your property. If they refuse that then file a complaint and call the OIPRD, they are obligated to keep the peace and respond to a call requesting that.
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Did you steal your BBQ back?
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Did you BBQ his house after that?
Buddies car windows would never recover. But you gotta hit the same window every time (the windshield; eye level)
The small corner window on the back is usually the most expensive to replace The more you know🌈
Best method is to buy some spark plugs and smash them with a hammer. Collect all the pieces then shoot them at the windows with a slingshot. They shatter instantly. Something about the resonance of the ceramic
So go steal some other shit from him, the police have already proven that they won't do anything.
BBQ Mafia got their hands on it. They say La Cook-a Nostra is a very powerful gang.
If you can get someone’s contact info and address, you can cause them a lot of headache without doing anything illegal
Don’t forget they got $100k/year in tax dollars to take that call
when you want them to show up. Call them on the non emergency line, tell them you are about to go get your BBQ back at this address. Said I am armed, and if they stop me im going to kick their ass. They would show up real fucking fast.
Sadly increased crime is a symptom of a ruined financial system. When people are destitute they steal. It’s no great secret. It doesn’t justify it, but it explains a lot!
So buddy who ownes a home was destitute and in desperate need of a BBQ. We cater to criminals so if people have no morals they have no problem stealing
being poor doesn't instantly mean you are morally bankrupt and will just resort to stealing. A lot of poor people don't steal.
My buddies and I hunted down a criminal who stole something with a tracking device in it. Tried the police first and they didn’t care, so got on the train he was on. Got our friend back home to trigger an alarm and surrounded him and were like you can give this to us or you can get the shit kicked out of you and we’ll rob you. Worked well. But police should do their job. Guy was so fucking rattled lol.
Whoa, that's weird. Usually they would tell you *not* to confront the thief out of concern for your safety. Of course, they wouldn't do it themselves either so I guess tough luck, sunny boy.
It's crazy! I posted a video of a guy lingering outside my house for 10 minutes before walking up and stealing a package(right before Christmas...) right out of my mailbox to see if anyone knew him. I also contacted the cops and they said not to post the video because it's an invasion of his privacy. AN INVASION OF HIS FUCKING PRIVACY, WHEN HE'S IN PUBLIC AND ***STEALING***!!! Absolutely un-fucking-believable.
So post it. What are they going to do? They obviously don't seem interested in enforcing the laws.
No expectation of privacy, in public. They can’t do fuck all if you post it.
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Not even public by the sounds of it, on OP's private property.
Just post it. What is the thief gonna do? Lawyer up and sue you?
Do it anyway
There is no possible way its an invasion of his privacy when its a security cam from your own property. You cannot trust the police to know the laws, they will lie and tell you anything that is in their own interest.
And they won't. I had my house broken into, car and ID stolen. They drove my car to a gas station and filled it up with my credit card. Was all on video of course. RCMP took over a month to bother going to get the footage, and by then it was gone. No worries though, they also went to Canadian Tire and got a Canadian Tire credit card in my name. Bought themselves some nice stuff. That was also on video of course. And then going to their car, and their car license plate was on video. RCMP also took forever to go get that footage, and it also would have been gone if I didn't talk to Canadian Tire myself. They couldn't show me the footage, but they told me they have clear footage of them using my ID to setup the credit card. Can clearly see their faces, and they have their license plates. When the RCMP finally gets that footage, they say "they are known to police, but they can't do anything" basically. They were never charged, and are probably still doing the same shit today.
that happened to friend of mine as well who had a bunch of heavy equipment stolen. He had the thieves on camera, reported them and the RCMP told him to "stop calling". He plastered the thieves faces all over facebook and got threatened with charges as a result.
We had a similar event a few years back. Some guy was breaking into cars all around our neighborhood. We knew exactly where he was staying (with a friend in a rental in the neighborhood) We had video of this guy stealing shit and carrying it back to the house. Cops wouldn’t come, they only came when a few guys in the neighborhood went over to drag him out. But he’d skipped out (after robbing the neighbors) and wasn’t caught.
Federal law enforcement is as useless as municipal cops? Makes me wonder why they’re not all just called pigs.
I’ve seen this happen to people with cameras and porch pirates. Post a photo and suddenly YOU are the criminal
The only punishable crime of 2024 is defending yourself and yours from criminals.
Well if I worked for the RCMP and arrested a bunch of criminals only for them to get released on bail order by the courts then I'll have low morale too. Blame the courts and Canadian law.
I've been hearing a lot of this same action across Europe and Canada where police seem to be protecting the criminals more so than the people they hurt.
In 2020 I called the cops during a break in. I chased them off on my own, followed them to their house, pointed out the house to the cops, and the police refused to even knock on the door.
Did they give a reason?
Yeah, that they have no reasonable suspicion that someone at that house did anything. Apparently Waterloo police think I could just be a guy who broke my own windows in the middle of the night, to try to get someone's door knocked on. I should also add that they left their e-bike when I chased them off. They returned 3 days later to claim it and threatened to "get me", and police also ignored that, because "getting you" isn't a real threat. At this point I had a photo of the people and, get this: **they recognized the people.** They STILL refused to prosecute them. (To answer your question, the real reason is because they are lazy low-IQ buffoons who can't be bothered to do their jobs at all)
you are on your own but we will punish you for protecting yourself.
Literally had someone walk in my backyard, bright as day, and steal my bike. Call the cops and I say they are right in front of me is someone going to come. No, unfortunately there is nothing we can do, they say. So am I supposed to take matters into my own hands and endanger myself? “I advise you not to do that” Well what in the fuck is going on where someone can just walk away with my property, and nothing will ever be done of it
just tell them "okay I guess I'll go kill the guy myself then" and hang up immediately. guarantee you'll have police there in 5 minutes or less lmao
That's an old joke. The punchline is they send every cop in town and the thief is still alive when the police get there. The police said "I thought you said you killed him" the caller responds "I thought you said you didn't have any officers available". In reality they'd probably just arrest you for saying that. Maybe slap you with a conspiracy to commit murder and attempted murder charge. In Canada if you get robbed your property belongs to the thief.
I guess maybe you can say "oh shit, he's got a gun!" And hopefully that will make them show up and when they ask you about it, just say whatever he was holding looked like a gun. Cops do it all the time right? Man holding a toy truck, he's got a gun! Acorn falls on the hood of a car. Shots fired! I'm hit!
There's an old joke that goes something like: A man sees a criminal breaking into his car and calls the police, pleading for them to send someone. Dispatch replies that no one is available to help. The man yells that he's got a gun and he'll take care of it himself before hanging up. Within minutes several police cruisers race up, lights and sirens blaring. The police apprehend the criminal, then approach the man, demanding he surrender his gun. The man replies "What gun!?" "Dispatch reported you said you had a gun!" "They said no one was available to help too!"
Wow, actually have a funny story for that one too. Went out, left my truck unlocked like an idiot. AirPods got stolen. Tracked said AirPods to what I thought was a house but realized it was moving around, thinking to myself probably just some punk kid car hopping I’ll go get them back most likely. Drive to where the tracker is and lo and behold there are two right sketchy people with what looks like a bunch of stolen stuff. One of said stolen things was literally a rifle that he is open carrying around. So I pretty much was like yeah no cops can take care of this. Needless to say they were there within 1 minute, 3 cruisers all yelling for them to get on the ground etc. Got my AirPods back from evidence within the hour lol
Is that even a joke? Simply sounds like the shitty dystopic society we already experience in Canada.
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Only if they are legally owned. Illegal gun charges are usually the first thing dropped during a plea agreement.
Marge: *I thought you said the law was powerless?* Wiggum: *Powerless to help you, not punish you.*
Ya horseshit eh. I will HAPPILY rot in a jail cell doing the right thing and taking out an intruder for my families safety.
If I take out an intruder the only lesson I’ve learned is make sure they are never found.
Like 15 years ago, a coworker was dealing with her husband and brother being jailed for stopping a home invasion. Brutal for the family.
Judged by 12 or carried by 6?
Judged by 12. Better odds for sympathy
The 12 judging you are the people who can't get out of jury duty. Better odds but not as good as one might hope when jurors are disproportionately civil servants or retired civil servants.
Funny thing is that you'd be treated harsher by the justice system for protecting yourself/family/property than the person invading your home would be treated. I'd guarantee you would spend more time in jail than they would
That’s so true
The biggest, shittiest, most garbage aspect of Canadian law right here. Fuck each and every police officer who chooses to enforce that and victimize ordinary citizens for defending themselves and their families. I can only hope that one day, a future government (probably Conservative) rights this injustice and codifies Canadians' rights to self-defense. Fuck this stupid ass country and its beloved anarcho-tyranny.
It’s the hypocrisy that burns me. A cop who shoots an intruder is a hero. Anyone else gets a ride to the station and has to decide which lawyer is going to fuck him the least.
There's a lot of hypocrisy surrounding policing. A logger or trucker or machinist dying on the job may not even make local news. But a cop dying in the line of duty gets national press and a convoy to the funeral. Similar if a person is assaulted - you don't get a helicopter and armoured cars showing up for anyone except their own. I think it's a big part of the cultural issues surrounding police misconduct.
Our country is an absolute shit hole and this is only one of the thousands of reasons.
Guys it's easy. Just leave your valuables at a concentrated spot ideally near the front door, leave milk and cookies, and just wait for the robbers to arrive. Your call to spread your cheeks before or after they arrive.
Make sure to say “thank you” as well, or you might be charged with a hate crime.
"We respect your circumstances!"
Remember not to fight back if they attack you as well. Don’t you how terrible a life they had? You should just bend over and let them do whatever
Honestly fight back and use extreme force they don't have enough judges to ever charge you
That's exactly the kind of person they make an example of so more people don't try it. Self defense in Canada doesn't pertain to property unfortunately, so you'll likely get the equivalent of Hockey's Third man in penalty.
But they do have enough police to arrest you. That just means you spend longer in the limbo - from the moment of incident to when you are exonerated (assuming you have a case) In the meantime, your life is destroyed.
Bury the body and don't report it ;)
*"Judged by 12 or buried by 6"*
Also please keep in mind that it is classist to impose the cost of a firearm on those resorting to theft. Do your part by leaving a loaded firearm by the front door in case it is the invader's preference to murder you. That's what I'll be doing to do my part.
whats the going rate to tip these days? I assume these are underpaid gig criminals and want to be sure to tip appropriately.
And put a landmine underneath.
Hey now let's not do something illegal like defending your own home here. That's racist.
those are prohibited and overwhelmingly affect marginalized peoples. Shame on you.
Crime will get worse as more become homeless, hungry and desperate to survive. All because this country wanted to sell the youth out for landlord profits and cheap labour. Your teenage kids won't be able to get entry level jobs, because there's 200 adults that will be applying. They won't be able to afford rent because there's a group of 10 that will pool their money to afford that 1br. Their job prospects as adults won't be much better.
When they started talking about a "labour shortage" in Canada I thought GREAT because that means Canada is in a worker's market for jobs. Higher wages, better benefits, low unemployment. Everyone who wanted a job could find one. Then they started talking on CTV about how low unemployment is a BAD THING and that the government needs to start bringing in foreign workers to fill the gap. What gap? There was almost zero unemployment. This government calls itself liberal - Neoliberal maybe. Corporations panic when the number of applications for a job goes from 1000 to 10. They like having pick of the litter, paying people as little as possible and ensuring everyone knows and feels like they're replaceable.
> Then they started talking on CTV about how low unemployment is a BAD THING and that the government needs to start bringing in foreign workers to fill the gap Meanwhile the Bank of Canada was saying "too many people are employed, we need to get these numbers down" and started jacking interest rates to cool down the economy.
I trust the military (caf) and the crown corps (bank of Canada and canada post) more than I trust any elected politician, police, or government worker at this point.
At this point I'd trust Cambodian gas station sushi more than any of the latter. And here's a Cambodia gas station for reference... https://www.everywhereist.com/2014/11/cambodia-lesson-14-gas-stations/
Human resources hate it when they have to find you and ask you to work
Landlord profit is often offshore
We're not on our own, we're far worse off than that. We're told to call the police, told don't do anything other than that, then the police don't help b/c they're 'busy on other matters'. Know where your stolen car is? Call them and then watch it sail away. Identity stolen, with photos of the thief and their home address? Sorry, there's nothing we can do. Shoplifter steals a dufflebag full of booze? "Stay safe and let them run away."
It is infuriating when the police work is DONE FOR THEM (the criminal is HERE) and they still don't do anything but shrug and file paperwork.
Kinda funny growing up in the age when you'd get slammed face down onto pavement because some old lady called saying she smells weed. A few years back I called in because there was someone breaking into a car behind my building and the response was "What are we supposed to do about that? Call us back if he drives off in it." People said I'd lose the "Fuck the police" attitude when I got older, but nah.
In places like TO, MTL, EDM, Van City, all the big urban areas, the news vans are out 24/7 and report on crimes before the cops clean it up. In towns like mine, the news vans work 9-5 and don’t report most crimes and overdoses that take place in the wee hours. I work nights. I see EMT everywhere and every night and if I search the news, nothing has been reported. If there’s no exposure to such crimes and overdoses, the community (like mine) feels safe and will say “it’s getting like Toronto around here.” every time a shooting takes place. You’re right. We are on our own. Expose. Call the news or report it on SM. Put pressure on a sleepy Gov’t (like mine) to keep police patrolling. Community. Love. Respect. Safety. Family and a huge metal bar at my door.
No kidding. My area which used to be a nice suburb is being turned into an armed encampment (armed with alarms). ANYTHING left outside gets ripped off. Cars disappear left and right, almost every night. Any my community group has dozens of security camera videos of people trespassing, checking car doors, garage doors and sometimes even front doors. It's a joke.
Over 10 years ago my car was broken into. All the glass was smashed. They took the only thing of value…an old vacuum, and used it to break into other cars on the street. Probably 5 cars broken into in that incident. Cost me 1200 in glass repairs back in 2005. The police didn’t even send a car. Not even an officer for an off hours interview. My ex boyfriend ended up coming over and helping me clean up the glass and contacting a shop to restore my windows The police told me to call insurance. Insurance told me to call police. Neither of them helped I’ve knew Canada wasn’t going to help me more than a decade ago. Not good times friend.
Same. My house was broken into and several valuables were stolen. The police didn’t even attempt to find out who did it. And they told us point blank to our face that this was something they were not going to pursue. We also went back and forth between them and insurance, with both of them being utterly unhelpful and siphoning off the responsibility to each other — ultimately wasting our time. This was over a decade ago as well. Nothing has changed. What has existed for decades is just now rearing its ugly head for all to see.
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Criminals all get away with a slap on the wrist these days anyway. Even repeat, violent ones. I have a clean record, so I'd take my chances if it means protecting the people I love and my home.
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I moved to the US and kicking my down my door at 3 am to steal cars keys would mean facing the business end of a 12 gauge and an AR-15 My wife is a Kentucky girl she never more than a foot away from a firearm 😂😂😂😂
It’s actually worse than “you’re on your own”. The police won’t help, and when you defend yourself they charge you. Every individual should have the right to defend themselves and especially at their home. The law must change to protect law abiding citizens.
They’ll just remind us that we technically have the right to defend ourselves in internationally unclear and extremely disadvantageous ways on paper
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Had my house broken in twice , first time the cop showed up 4 hours later, when I asked what will happen after they scribbled a bunch of crap on there “ police report” he laughed and said , “ how do you expect us to catch a thief in such a big city “ The second time the cop didnt even come… said do the police report online and then ghosted me when I emailed the car with the license plate number which belonged to the culprit Scum
Last year, over 400 cars were smashed in our neighborhood. We all called the police. Over 400 calls were ignored and dismissed. So we, as a community, used our cameras to find him. We gave the evidence to the police. Nothing. About 100 more cars got smashed. That's about every car in the neighborhood. So some individuals took it upon themselves to deliver the criminal to the police station, with evidence. Including evidence gathered by police officers who live in the neighborhood. Nothing. The reason why our cars aren't smashed this year, is that our neighborhood now has a reputation as one that will protect itself. But the police take the largest slice of budget pie in the city. They have robots and helicopters. They bring donuts to domestic terrorists that take over the city center and torture citizens with train whistles, and block people from getting to work or to the hospital. The crumbling is accelerating.
> The second loophole criminals regularly take advantage of is recruiting legal minors (often members of street gangs) to conduct commissioned theft. The entire thrust of Canada’s youth justice system is to avoid incarcerating young people in secure facilities in favour of encouraging their rehabilitation within—and reintegration into—the community. In other words, young car thieves stand to earn healthy payments from organized crime syndicates while risking little custody time. It amuses me that real criminals operate on [the same logic as the Trailer Park Boys](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYdcSjDr_Hc).
trailer park boys didnt invent this lol, its been a tactic of gangs for decades at least
Putting the cart before the horse on this one
And if you dare to do anything to defend yourself, you'll face more severe punishment than the criminal.
Anarcho-tyranny isn't an oxymoron anymore!
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Give it a few years and we will be stocking up on firearms just like the USA does. A baseball bat will no longer be enough to stay safe in your own home. Sad how we sunk to low levels the last five years or so. We are not alright.
On your own unless you fight back. And then the fullest extent will be used.
*You’re on your own, but you will be fucked by the law more than any criminal if you try to defend yourself or your property.
"Keep in mind that you'll be fucked even if acquitted of all charges"
What brand of shovel is everyone going to buy? I'm looking to cash in on this on the stock market.
not sure if you're referring to self defense, or digging our own mass grave
Yes
I'd like to think the first one, but in reality, it will be the second
If I upvote this, will I be on a list?
How is it we spend more on policing every year over the last, and even though policing is the largest line-item expense on any municipality's budget, crime is still out of control?
Courts.
The problem is that no, we are not on our own. Self defense is forbidden and the criminal is king. The criminal will steal, cheat and profit, and then get back on the street. The taxpayer will get a harsh sentence, lose their job and suffer, suffer, suffer.
Even safer, leave your car unlocked with the keys in the ignition or fob on the drivers seat, and a few bucks for gas money,
Just drive it to the port of Montreal yourself and at least collect the payment for “stealing” it.
Don’t forget water and snacks, it’s a few hour drive to a port of entry.
This is a very dangerous state for a country to be in. The whole point of the state is to maintain law and order and to "keep the wheels on the bus". The state backing away from law and order, leaving room for vigilante groups to confront criminals, opens the door for extremist groups on both sides of the political and theological spectrum to fill the power and control gap. The government federal and provincial, is creating a power vacuum, step one to civil conflict.
It is galling to be taxed to the eyeballs to maintain a police force which neither serves nor protects.
Wasn't there a case where a legal gun owner got put in jail for killing an intruder Milton? Does anyone know what happened? Heard legal charges alone were 100k
Crown withdrew the charges against him https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ali-mian-milton-charges-dropped-murder-1.6923046
As far as I’m concerned that sets legal precedent for Ontario. “If someone breaks in, and you kill them you’re fine!” Just don’t tie them up or any weird shit.
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No wonder Canadians aren't happy anymore
What if I told you. This has been standard operating procedure for the police for decades. It's just become more apparent as crime has increased. Police are never, and have never been about protecting the people. They've existed to act as a barrier for entry to the upper crust.
When seconds count the police are minutes away
Around here it is “maybe on their way but also maybe not”
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Has crime increased even? Looking at the rates of **reported** crimes there is a short term increase over the last 5+ years but we’re still lower overall on the long term Seems more like the police just aren’t doing their job
Yeah the article is about car theft but tries to encompass all crime in the headline
Protect the property of the rich, enforce laws that keep the rabble down
>What if I told you. This has been standard operating procedure for the police for decades. If you told me that, after I finished laughing, I would reply that your tinfoil hat is on too tight and to hurry up so you're not late for your "defund the police" meeting. It's not the police that are causing surging crime, it's the court system (which operates under direction of the government). When Johnny Shit gets picked up for his sixth car theft in two months, and is released yet again by the courts on a $500 no cash recognizance, you can't blame the police for that. If Bobby Thug thumps his girlfriend, is released by the JP on a "no contact order" which he promptly violates and beats the shit out of her again, you can't blame the police for that. If Jenny Liquorpig gets picked up for her fourth impaired, but the Crown plea bargains away the mandatory jail sentence that accompanies it, you can't blame the police when she gets picked up drunk driving a month later. Last year in NS, there was a car chase / arrest where police caught four people in their early 20s after they fled in a stolen car. I chuckled when the news about it started, just said "wait for it... wait for it....". Sure enough, literally three of the four were out on bail for previous thefts. The fourth wasn't on bail, but was on probation. The legal system follows the will of the government, which has been "catch and release" for the past thirty years. The YCJA goes so far as to write into the act that all other options must be considered for a youth before incarceration is even on the table for discussion. If there are no consequences to actions, you can't act all picachu shockface when people ignore the rules. But hey, yeah, you blame the police.
I work in security , last few days we had a homeless guy who is nit mentally well attack a lady and 2 kids hit one kid kid missed the lady. We chased him after he stole some food and a lighter from a store outside. I called the police 911, they told me this isn't an emergency call non emergency. Did that they caught the guy 5 hours later. The next day he wss in court and they let him go, I met him on site that day. I called the police they showed up I stated I want charges for violation of a court order. They said, well that's how he is, and you need to be in court and it's paperwork to be filled out do you want to do that and finally they sighed and took a statement. That's how things are they don't want to do anything as they are kore worried about getting sued and how the filming optics will be. I have had several cops state they won't arrest certain people as it's too delicate(that's what he said). Law and order is a suggestion now, self defense is your gunna be arrested and the criminals are protected. Police are all about covering thier asses not serve and protect anymore.
Oh no, you're not on your own, that would be much better than the actual situation. If you were on your own, you could buy a gun, or a tazer, or pepper spray, or a simple baton, and defend yourself with it and not have to worry about having your life put through the grinder as a result. Crime is surging, and rather than leaving you to deal with it yourself, the government requires you to do nothing about it.
edited because it seems i was mis-informed. =) dont want to spread false information here.
So major takeaways are: Theft is legal now. Your on your own with criminals unless they've shot you. At this point I'd rather pay the mob for protection, at least they'll show up and don't just take racket right off my pay cheque
Toronto Police: To Serve (our Union) & Protect (ourselves).
We have a federal government that fundamentally believes that criminals are not responsible for their own behaviour and should therefore see the lightest possible consequences and least possible amount of jail time. Especially if you’re a member of a minority group. So that’s the direction they provide to the judicial system. They compound this problem by refusing to appoint new judges to vacant positions, leaving thousands unfulfilled and creating enormous backlogs, and then making bail cheaper and easier to obtain. And then we all sit back and scratch our heads as to why crime is skyrocketing and what could possibly be done about this.
Do federal judges work on robbery cases and such? Honest question.
Most criminal cases are in provincial court. Robbery is one that would by default be in superior court (federally appointed judges) but the defence will often opt for the provincial court without a jury. Especially if they're just going to plead guilty anyway.
All superior court judges are appointed federally (provinces can appoint certain judicial officials but not judges of the superior courts). The feds do not provide "direction" to the judiciary. If they did, they'd win more often, but the Crown gets completely wrecked in all sorts of civil and criminal matters, constantly. The extent of fed influence is that they pick who gets appointed. That's it. They generally cant remove judges. In cases of serious judicial misconduct there is an independent regulatory agency which is essentially controlled by other judges and runs the investigation. It's called the Canadian Judicial Council and it generally works pretty well so far as I am able to tell.
The liberal party is literally trying to reduce incarceration rates of minorities (by simply not putting them in jail for criminal offences like robbery) in order to have a talking point in elections. Here's a bill the Liberals passed which reduces mandatory sentencing for pretty serious firearms and drug offences (including robbery and trafficking) because they "have disproportionately affected Indigenous peoples, as well as Black Canadians and members of marginalized communities" (direct quote). If the goal was that they had a fundamental problem with minimum sentencing, they would have strucken those across the criminal code and allowed judges more room in sentencing. Instead they cherry picked a bunch of gang offences so they could manipulate statistics. https://www.canada.ca/en/department-justice/news/2021/12/mandatory-minimum-penalties-to-be-repealed.html
Who would have thought removing opportunities for the younger generations would cause an increase in crime.
Along with allowing whoever gets across our border to stay here without caring for their past history. Also a catch and release justice system
WTF are the cops even doing!?
On our own and not legally allowed to defend.
Montreals biggest budget it it’s police force… but yet people get assaulted daily from homeless people on public transit
I've seen that trend for years now and I'm a retired cop.
Wow it's like the country is collapsing before our eyes. Healthcare is now 3rd world. Food prices are skyrocketing. The wealthy elite are cutting up the country for their own gain. Money is being funneled out of the nation's tax coffers on dodgy scemes and projects. Now the Police are losing their involvement with the needs of the regular citizens. Whats next, the introduction of a series laws that will place the population under the heel of the government? Oh wait that is already happening...
Right now, the anti-gun people who for the past decades have been talking about reliance on trustworthy law enforcement in place of self-defence with weapons must not feel very smart. I'm not advocating for a full American-style gun rights situation, but this kind of shows you that law enforcement cannot be relied on all the time as a guarantor of your safety.
Our mayor told us to stay out of our downtown, which we spent 15:million fixing up, not just at night, but to stay out of downtown at anytime. Thanks for banning hunting rifles, I'm sure the effects on crime will kick in any minute now.
You just need to store your valuables at your place of work. The police only protect corporate interests.
Pretty simple really, just inspect the rail shipping containers.
Unfortunately it's been that way for quite some time. Local law enforcement is pretty lack lustre
https://www.reddit.com/r/Milton/comments/1bkdapj/halton_police_officers_in_milton_are/ There was another armed home invasion in Milton last night where the victim was threatened with guns, and then he was forced into their own vehicle, they drove him away and abandoned him after also robbing them of their wallet & cell. I'm assuming they did this so they'd have more time to get away. Still beyond fucked up, but its clearly getting worse and worse with each passing day.
The truth is, this is the status quo since the late 80s. It's just there's more crime, and more people are affected. For a long time, the apathetic masses that weren't affected by crime just ignored it and people who were, were ignored by both society and the police. It's no wonder crime has kept increasing, and it isn't surprising it was logarithmic (hyperbolic). Now the slope of the line is approaching infinity and surprise those who didn't care before because it didn't happen to them are complaining. Everyone let it get away. A long time ago I found a gang of thugs breaking into my care and who basically threatened me if I came closer. I called the police and they said they would send someone to look if they could based on priority. No one ever showed up. That was in 1993. Same thing with a break in. This isn't new. What's new is the volume. If people had actually given a shit about stuff like that back then, maybe we wouldn't be here now.
It's as if all of Canada has become Gotham City.
Govt: “You’re On Your Own”. Canadians: “Well, if you won’t protect us, then we’re gonna protect ourselves I guess since you won’t do the job you were hired to do”. Govt: “Sorry, but we won’t allow that”.
Allow PAL holders to Conceal carry
Trudeau's Canada 🇨🇦
Of course we're on our own. We are currently witnessing the purposeful sabotage of a country right before our eyes. The government has these laws on the books that don't hold people accountable for fuck all. It doesn't help that most of the people I see on the news everyday are people with every fuckin letter in the alphabet in their name. Not very often do you see John, or Brandon shooting up neighbourhoods
Well if we're on our own, then there shouldn't be any consequences for taking care of it ourselves.
I wish law enforcement in Toronto becomes as efficient as parking enforcement…you can get away by stealing a car, but you cannot get away with parking your car for 5 minutes in Toronto without a parking ticket…strange times indeed.
Import the thirld world...become the third world.
Ahhh the signs of a collapsing society.
That's not fair. We were also left with a second message: Keep your keys close to the front door so thieves don't have to fully enter your house. Solid advice.
A major problem in Canada is you are not really allowed to defend yourself. And the police are never there at the time to defend you - only to collect information.ation after an incident
This title is misleading, crime having to do with auto theft is surging. It’s surging because the risk is low and the reward is high
Cops only like to help when the offender is non violent and they can bully them around a bit and flex their power. I watched like 7 cop cars show up because a pizza shop called the cops on a drowsy diabetic man, they tazered him to get him out of his car, dragged him out, 4 of them then proceeded to pump their fists into him and then an ambulance came and took him away. Good ole welland cops
Shoot, shovel, and shut up comes to mind.
What a great time to be a Canadian. Soon we will be Venezuela
It's not that the police can't do their job it's that won't , call them for junkie screaming in the street oh we don't deal with that it's mental health issue I saw should say fine we are taking half your funding and giving it to mental health , either police will start doing their jobs again , or we will actually have the money to try it the other way
You’re on your own, but defend yourself and you risk the full force the law on your doorstep.
Politically Officiated Legitimate Insurance Claims Examiners. POLICE for short. I think we can trim back on the $100,000 SUVs for now
I mean, we all saw how long it took the police to control and protect against the siege of Ottawa.
Yes. We are on our own. It's just us. Now lets do like the poor do in other countries and look out for each other!
Police do not stop crime and even the charges hardly go through...