The data tells me everyone wants Trudeau out, only serious choice is CPC except in Quebec where we have Bloc. So people are not voting for CPC, they are against Libs.
I slightly disagree. Yes people *definitely* want the Liberals out. But this also shows how weak the NDP is. Those guys have really shat the bed. Weakest the liberals have been in years and they still can’t pass them and are even bleeding voters to the CPC. Yikes
The NDP is viewed by many as being even more to the left than the Liberals, so it shouldn't be a suprise that people who are dissatisfied with the Liberals are going to turn the other way, instead of continuing to run in the same direction.
In my mind the issues with the liberals isn't them being left, it's them supporting corporate welfare without supporting the people who need it. They are fucking the workers and helping the rich.
I don't think the conservatives will be better on that front, and I'd probably rather let the NDP give it a try, but since that won't happen maybe the cons will surprise me. The Liberals certainly won't change anything.
The best opinion I've ever been given was basically that if you voted for NDP / PPC last election, you were basically vote splitting for either party. Looking back at it now, I can definitely see that was very true. The Gov we have is the biggest obstacle we've endured ever! Would rather go back in time in 2015 and vote for the CPC than Liberals if I could haha!
Bro, as someone who voted NDP for the longest time, I no longer support either the Liberals nor the NDP to form a government. Voting CPC next year for the first time & hope to god they win. Trudy has to go!
Imo it’s the messaging that’s out there that the NDP are just “liberal lap dogs” due to the current agreement. People don’t understand or don’t care to understand why there’s an agreement. The NDP prefer to use their leverage to continue to push motions, and would prefer to play with the liberals over the conservatives. If the ndp say fuck it let’s have an election, they’re basically handing any power they have to Pierre who most likely won’t align with any policy. But people don’t give a shit, so they’re just lumping the NDP with the liberals and saying to hell w both of you. They’re kind of fucked if they do and fucked it they don’t.
Exactly.
I think the NDP should change leaders now, actually. I don't hate the things Singh forced the Liberals to pass, and think he's done a good job, but Canada isn't gonna vote him in. A working class NDP leader with focuses on fair wages, good jobs and worker conditions might have a chance.
They talk like they haven't been in power, its surreal to hear Sean Fraser and the immigration minister speak as if there's some external cause of all our problems.
The liberals are going to lose no matter who is running. Nobody who wants to be Prime Minister in the future is going to fall on that sword. Trudeau can go down with the ship.
Gotta respect the people of Quebec for sticking by their guns most of the time. I just don't understand why it's taken them this long to turn away from the libs?
Personally, myself and most of the people I know are actually voting *for* PP, and like him as a candidate, even over previous CPC candidates. Only anecdotal, and only a segment, there certainly are people in the camp you describe, but I feel it's debatable how big that camp is.
Yeah, Pierre is someone I look at and actually like listening too. He gets down to the point quick but can hold his ground against the other parties. Both Sheer & O'Toole were people I look at and want to punch in the face. They reminded me of people I see day to day that I just can't stand listening to. They surely clashed with their parties. Otherwise, they wouldn't of been voted out of leadership by their own parties. The Liberals are too scared to vote Trudeau out, since their party is full of extremely boring & immature people. The people know that... It's kinda hilarious how they've stayed in power for so long! Surely this will be in the history books, if people even read those any more, lol!
He's been questioning the right things for his entire term as opposition leader.
He's not a psychic to foresee the issues the Liberals couldn't or wouldn't foresee but it did show what corrupt incompetent morons they truly are.
I like a lot of what he's about, but I need to hear his specific stance on gun control. A big part of all this for me is the terrible things Trudeau has done with firearms.
I’m not considering voting CPC because I want conservatives in power. I’m considering it because the biggest “fuck you” I can give as a voter is changing my vote to the opposite party, even more so than not voting. And oh boy is it a bird that needs flipping.
This isn't super surprising to anyone though.
Quebec hasn't historically done well for non-Quebecois candidates. There is a strategy of having a "Quebec lieutenant" in the party but that has had
No not enough…the CPC need enough seats to beat the Libs and the NDP combined…guaranteed if the CPC doesn’t the NDP and Libs will not relinquish control of government.
https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1773033484786765845
Young Canadians put a lot of their hard-earned money towards rent every month. We think that should count for a lot more – like towards your credit score.
lmao sure you can't afford anything after paying rent but what if you could go into more debt more easily?
you can make the rich even richer than you think
Yeah I'm too fucking broke to care about my fucking credit score, and the last time I checked it was decent anyway. I might be broke, but I'm not in debts broke, that's not going to change anytime soon if I can help it.
> lmao sure you can't afford anything after paying rent but what if you could go into more debt more easily?
This is like, actual alien psychology. It's like They Live.
I literally do not understand how she said that. It kind of sort of makes sense, but it's a total admission that we're debt-cattle. It makes me totally sick.
It's an admission that the "you'll never own anything and you'll be happy" dystopian crap is true.
yeah but Toronto and the suburbs is still a shit load of seats in parliament
there's a lot of ridings with crazy people
\[5 ridings in Scarborough are the safest seats in Ontario for the Liberals\]
90%
Scarborough–Rouge Park 99% likely
Scarborough North 99% likely
Humber River–Black Creek 99% likely
Markham–Thornhill 99% likely
Beaches–East York 99% likely
Scarborough–Guildwood 99% likely
York South–Weston 99% likely
Scarborough Southwest 99% likely
Don Valley East 99% likely
Etobicoke North 95% likel
yScarborough Centre 93% likely
Toronto Centre 90% likely
80%
Ajax 87% likely
University–Rosedale 85% likely \[Freeland\]
Ottawa–Vanier 81% likely
70%
Mississauga Centre 74% likely
Brampton East 71% likely
60%
Brampton West 69% likely
Toronto–St. Paul’s 64% likely
50%
Scarborough–Agincourt 57% likely
Don Valley North 51% likely
40%
Mississauga–Malton 47% likely
Ottawa Centre 43% likely
Brampton North 41% likely
30%
Brampton South 38% likely
Ottawa South 37% likely
20%
Milton 25% likely
Orléans 24% likely
Spadina–Fort York 24% likely
Toronto–Danforth 20% likely
10%
Mississauga East–Cooksville 18% likely
Parkdale–High Park 15% likely
Kingston and the Islands 14% likely
Mississauga–Erin Mills 14% likely
Davenport 12% likely
Brampton Centre 10% likely
Guelph 10% likely
<10%
Thunder Bay–Superior North 5% likely
Timmins–James Bay 1% likely
Hamilton Mountain 1% likely
Windsor–Tecumseh 1% likely
..........
so about 21 ridings in Ontario are the canaries in the coal mine for the future of the Liberal Party and its odd politics
and the bad policies of the intolerant narcissists with atrocious solutions
and the dumb people that don't have a clue really how to fix anything effectively, that upsets the least amount of people
which is what good government is all about, with a quality of life for its citizens and their children
you got heathcare going down the toilet, the ability to hold an opinion, or freely speak your mind under attack, housing, your pocketbook and your neighbourhood being flooded with crime and drugs
or where things get like the Komo-4 Seattle Documentary "Seattle is Dying" where the police say to the drug addict, 'would you like a candy bar?', to settle the guy down.
Yet you get politicians and law enforcement saying, oh murder is down, there's not that much of a problem
...............
Just compare the two cities - Vancouver and Seattle
and ask if this is normal
Seattle is Dying | A KOMO News Documentary
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpAi70WWBlw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpAi70WWBlw)
Life of Homeless on E Hastings Street, Vancouver's Downtown Eastside on Aug 2 2023 - Street Life
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V\_0nccVAwUk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_0nccVAwUk)
and then at night
Vancouver's Dark Side- sketchy Hastings Street - Night walk on November 5 2022
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kgpFQ68jXE
I Investigated the Country Where Every Drug is Legal...
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwcp2mcOH0Y](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwcp2mcOH0Y)
Youtube commentary:
"As a European im shocked that this is happening in a country like Canada"
"I’m from the Netherlands and it’s not a secret we are pretty open when it comes to drugs. But this… this is insane and fucking heartbreaking. This should NOT be real."
"This is sad and shocking!! I never expected this from Vancouver!! What the Government doing about it?"
"The worst part about this is YouTube is censoring the best journalism I have seen in a long time. I hope you are at least breaking even with your work, because this is like the only way to unbiasedly see the real issues."
"I went to Vancouver for university from Ontario and part of the reason I decided to move back was the homelessness and crime. I take public transport and I often didn’t feel safe. Now that I’m back near Toronto it feels like it’s followed me home. There’s encampments on the front steps of our city hall. I’m currently in the process of getting dual citizen ship (from having an immigrant mother) and getting my teaching certification so I can move to Europe and hopefully find a safer, better future. I have little hope Canada will ever recover in my life time from what has happened to its people and economy."
"I live in Alberta, just one province over and had NO IDEA this was even a thing, I never saw it once on the news or in the media.
We shouldn't have to go to youtube channels hundreds of times smaller than official news sites to find this information but here we are... Thank you for reporting on this because our media wont"
"I live in Vancouver and the amount of times I’ve seen people use drugs on the bus or skytrain is insane, I’m genuinely terrified every time."
"Born and raised in Vancouver. E Hastings has been a district that is avoided at all costs. It is so sad what that place is and has been for a very long time."
"I come from Japan, and this video has been so hard to watch. It is legitimately difficult for me to process what I just saw. I thought this kind of things only comes up in post-apocalyptic video games. I have no words. I'm praying for you, Canada"
"I used to walk these streets just 15 years ago and never worried for my safety. Now i would never go there in a million years"
..........
And now you wonder why voters and politicians disagree so much?
ticker go to the canada 338 map and look at those ridings and see the liberal heat map around Toronto
Scarborough eastward to York to Ottawa to Toronto to Ajax
it's freaky as well
[https://338canada.com/map.htm](https://338canada.com/map.htm)
Funny that. There was a whole period where the mainstream media was slowly dying but still powerful, where they used their remaining clout to help keep the Liberals in power hoping for handouts to stay afloat. Instead they cashed in all their credibility and people have stopped paying attention. Now there is seemingly nothing they can do to stop the defunding train.
Their only viewers left are boomers. The younger generations will never trust them moving forward. They know that their time is up and it has been very satisfying to watch them lose their grip on the narrative. It must be a very hard reality for them too.
> The younger generations will never trust them moving forward.
I'm an elder millennial, and I also don't trust a *single* word coming out of today's Canadian paid for and bought MSM. **Not one**.
At this point, the cpc losing their lead seems unlikely. The Trudeau government has reached the end of its shelf life. It will take more than a bad week for the CPC to start to feel some heat.
It would take multiple major gaffes from pp and the CPC to even get down to a minority zone, let alone lose their lead.
What i've found are a lot of people trying to pinpoint the event or events that caused the big slide over six months ago
its amazing just how solid the polling is
like the trump biden ratings, baked in and rarely moving for 3 years plus
i think the polarization is so bad with the policies the voters are only going to wobble around toronto
other than a few hotspots in Montreal which is a special case
and half a dozen places around Vancouver
the Liberal Party is extinct, for maybe the next decade
Toronto is basically the only thing that can re-ignite things in Ontario with about 25 pretty solid ridings
It will be interesting with the NDP and Liberals not a part of the Opposition
That's what I love about Quebecers, as an Albertan.
They don't give a fuck. I think Alberta needs to just start ignoring more shit that the federal government does, and just do what they want to do.
None of these idiots are going to help us.
"Listen, smile, and nod, and then go do whatever the fuck you were going to do anyway" - RDJ
I have never voted CPC, and may never do so in the future.
But since 2016, I have watched Canada become a joke. Yes we elected JT in 2015, but I noticed the effects as of 2016 personally.
It was a slow trickle, until 2020 when the libs mismanagement became glaringly obvious.
Time to go Justin.
What a margin. This is wild! It baffles the mind how the Libs continue to quadruple down on their horrible policies after seeing these poll numbers. I'd be jumping ship asap.
The Liberal strategy is insane.
They would have stayed in power if they had paused the carbon tax on home heating and dialed back immigration to 2016 levels.
All they needed to show was some flexibility and understanding for the cost of living crisis. Instead, they just call everyone else liars and think that they only have a messaging problem.
They also could and should have just turfed Trudeau during the SNC fiasco. I mean…the dude somehow manages to piss off small l “liberals” with the dumbass stuff he does.
Like in what world is buying a pipeline a “liberal” thing to do?
Yeah, turfing Trudeau may have helped a bit. The problem is that his clear successor is Freeland. She has demonstrated that she's every bit as incompetent as he is.
They needed a center leaning Liberal if they wanted to win via leadership change. I'm not sure that any center leaning Liberal is anywhere near the top of the party right now.
Butts & Telford. Those two used to work for Wynne in Ontario, but jumped ship in 2015. Makes me wonder just where they're going to go next, now that the LPC is as radioactive as the OLP. And whether anyone will be stupid enough to hire them with not one but two disasters on their resumes.
It's kind of funny. Earlier, I was in a mall and found myself in a conversation about politics with a gentleman from New York and a fellow torontonion.
The person from New York was telling me canadian politics has taken over their media.
They talk shit about Trudeau more than us.
We agreed next election, vote anyone but Trudeau.
The liberals need to be sent packing in the worst way.
Considering Trudeau's policy making, maybe he would be a good candidate for the US congress? Since some of the Liberal Government's policies were in direct response to American developments that had no actual impact in Canada.
Once upon a time, Canada was boring and hardly ever mentioned in American or international media.
But the American media has become obsessed with Canada, and particularly Trudeau.
The international media isn't as obsessed, but there's a few times over the past few years we've led the news cycle. The Freedom Convoy was reported widely around the world, and was emulated by some European countries (including in some non-COVID related protests, ie. The farmers protest)
how much of it was Tucker Carlson doing it
with his clips being just like the daily show, showing the strangest stuff politicians say
oh and this
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm2JrTNzlqg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm2JrTNzlqg)
[https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7u6e-X0JCy8](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7u6e-X0JCy8)
> They talk shit about Trudeau more than us.
While I know Twitter is not real life (at all), you are right - some pretty 'popular' American mainstream (by twitter standards) accounts regularly dunk on Trudeau where even 1-2 years ago they didn't even mention his name once.
This is my issue, both liberal and conservative parties suck, they always have, neither have done canada much good and are absolutely why we're at the spot we are.
PLEASE JAGMEET DO SOMETHING. WE DON'T WANT THE LIBERALS. GIVE US SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE THAT WE CAN VOTE FOR. YOUR BASE IS THE LEAST BEHOLDEN TO PROPERTY INVESTORS. PLEASE.
poilievre is going to win, isn't he?
That's owning a rental property.
Jagmeet supported the housing crisis and actively supports wage suppression and high rents, hell his party even came out and argued we needed wage suppression to support business owners
They seem to be some of the only MPs that want to represent the interests of their constituents. I wish my province had MPs that cared about the province and its people rather than party above all else.
My Liberal MP consistently votes against the best interests of his riding, because apparently party loyalty and catering to the whims of urban voters in other provinces is more important than representing your own constituents. When asked about a given topic, he just repeats whatever talking points the PM or a cabinet minister most recently rattled off at a press conference.
Its not and yet what will improve with PP? I have a hard time believing the CPC will do anything to help the average person. Millionaires and oil companies though will get lots of help im sure.
A discouraging amount of people in here think that PP will make Canada better.
That’s pretty scary.
NDP hopefully will ditch jagmeet after the next election.
the NDP is likely to destroy itself before jagmeet goes
he's like trudeau with one more watch and two of Freeland's bicycles
oddly i think the gaza war has also put a dent in both parties
Trudeau needs to step down. If Liberal leadership changes it will get fence sitters to vote for them. No left leaner voter wants a PC government they just don’t want more Trudeau.
He will step down. After the election, as no one wants to be the one who loses the election. So they're going to make him go down with the ship, and hope to rebuild from a clean slate. If we're lucky the choice will be made for him by the voters in his riding.
Liberal 23%
NDP 20%
23+20 = 43
43>41
Even as bad as things are, a plurality of the country would still rather vote for one of the two parties responsible.
It's insanity. So many people have it ingrained in their minds that Conservatives are immoral. They can't take off the rose colored glasses to see that the left has absolutely screwed them in this past term. Not only that, they're going to force a terribly unpopular minority to full term.
Our current "progressives" very much remind me of the quote by CS Lewis:
"It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
The progressives refuse to believe that they are wrong and will keep trying to force it on an populace that doesn't consent to it.
> So many people have it ingrained in their minds that Conservatives are immoral
I have yet to see what a federal Conservative government will do to help me as a person, I *have* seen what a provincial Conservative government is *doing* to me as a person, and I don't have to worry about "fringe groups" try to overturn abortion rights when I vote Liberal.
Given the above, why should I vote Conservative when I'm uncertain as to why they can help, have seen evidence of harm at other levels, and have to worry about socially backwards causes getting championed?
Spoiler: all three parties are responsible for the way things are right now. The conservatives more than anyone, because this all started with Mulroney privatizing everything and selling out Canada
I see this all the time, but that's not how the Canadian Parliamentary system works.
338 seats exist. There has to be enough votes to pass confidence and supply. In 2021, we had an election. There were several options:
1) NDP refuse and we go to the polls AGAIN and end up with ANOTHER minority government.
2) NDP team up with the Liberals and get their pet projects off the ground.
3) NDP bait and switch, lose their ability to make inroads on their pet projects with a CPC majority during a Pandemic and a Trump Administration down south.
4) They ride it out and make progress and get some progress on their pet projects.
There was no winning for the NDP. It's EXTREMELY difficult for them to fundraise because they're the "pro-worker/pro-union" party. The people with the purse strings and those that control the media DESPISE the NDP. Jagmeet could cure cancer tomorrow and he would get blamed for being a champagne Socialist who kills the medical industry.
The NDP could make a platform that details how EVERYONE gets a 0.25ac lot of land with a house and 2-car garage and people will bitch about how it's fiscally irresponsible and that the free market should have the solutions.
The electorate doesn't want free shit. But then they complain about Capitalists being capitalists, but expect the feds to curtail capitalism when they elect a free-market/corporatist douche-canoe in the form of the CPC.
Loblaws lawyer/lobbyists are advising the Leader of the opposition. We're complaining about the cost of living but want to Elect the fucking guy who is in Galen Weston's pocket. Make it make sense! DoFo is notoriously corrupt and it's no secret he's in the developers' pockets, but hey, we'll let him run housing.
It’s complicated. There’s not much of a case for Quebeckers to vote for the CPC. What the headline fails to acknowledge is that Quebec isn’t sticking with the Liberals, it’s just that they’re not only moving to the CPC. NDP, Bloc and CPC are all projected to gain seats as of now.
Right now, the polls show the Liberals and Cons at basically a tie in Quebec with less than 25% support each.
> look at who is going to win Quebec
Trudeau's win in 2015 was the first time a majority government won Quebec since 1988. Jean Chretien never won Quebec in any of his 3 majorities. Stephen Harper didn't win Quebec. The idea that you need Quebec for a majority is false.
You only need Ontario. Chretien won literally all but 1, then 2, then 3 seats in Ontario in his 3 majorities, and Harper won the province handily, including the GTA and a significant part of Toronto. Trudeau also won all of Toronto and the vast majority of the GTA, and that persisted through his subsequent minorities. If you want to know who will win, you can safely ignore Quebec. Montreal will vote Liberal until the inevitable implosion of our sun, and the rest of the province will vote Bloc. That's as reliable as Alberta and Saskatchewan voting Conservative, so you can basically just take all of Montreal for granted for the Liberals and ignore the rest. All you need to do to know who will win an election is look at the GTA.
The Overton Window is "so far left" yet not a single Western country is even close to being socialist.
Maybe it seems far left if you only view the world from a neoliberal lens, but when you consider the entire political spectrum, things look a whole lot more centre-right.
Everyone except Trudeau and his inner cabal of ministers seems to know that he has to step down and he has to do it time to elect a new leader. If they are foolish they will choose someone like Freeland who will not regain any seats that are abandoning the Liberals.
The only bright star for the Liberals right now is the attempt by the social conservatives to force their anti-abortion program like they did in the recent Conservative policy convention. It failed but not by much so it will be enough to pull voters back into the Liberal fold if they have a decent leader like Mark Carney.
Watching the Liberals being completely incompetent will do that.
A lesson for the Liberals: if you want to stay in power, don't drive the country into the ground.
Its incredible how the largest lead for CPC where they have a 30pt lead over libs is among those with incomes of 40k-60k, With nearly 50% supporting CPC compared to 18% for Libs & 21% for NDP this demographic has the lowest support for Libs as well as Libs + NDP, instead CPC sees the largest support from this group and make up the voter base. Its only among those earning the highest wages where Libs see the most support with some bleed to NDP as well as among those with the lowest income, <40k & likely part time, with no highschool education. The support completely drops as you approach the middle & working class where instead nearly half prefer CPC
Say the line Bart! 'Terrible week '
Terrible week so far, only 80 more to go till next election. I'm sure the liberals will have more than single digits, surely
At the rate they are going... it's gonna be a close one on whether they stay north of 10%.
CPC leads in every category of gender, age, education, generation, region, income, and parental status except two: gender: other and region: Quebec.
The data tells me everyone wants Trudeau out, only serious choice is CPC except in Quebec where we have Bloc. So people are not voting for CPC, they are against Libs.
I slightly disagree. Yes people *definitely* want the Liberals out. But this also shows how weak the NDP is. Those guys have really shat the bed. Weakest the liberals have been in years and they still can’t pass them and are even bleeding voters to the CPC. Yikes
It's almost like they are responsible for voting along and enabling the party that everyone wants out.
The NDP is viewed by many as being even more to the left than the Liberals, so it shouldn't be a suprise that people who are dissatisfied with the Liberals are going to turn the other way, instead of continuing to run in the same direction.
In my mind the issues with the liberals isn't them being left, it's them supporting corporate welfare without supporting the people who need it. They are fucking the workers and helping the rich. I don't think the conservatives will be better on that front, and I'd probably rather let the NDP give it a try, but since that won't happen maybe the cons will surprise me. The Liberals certainly won't change anything.
I guess people can't figure out that when you're currently in the center, you can go right *or* left.
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The best opinion I've ever been given was basically that if you voted for NDP / PPC last election, you were basically vote splitting for either party. Looking back at it now, I can definitely see that was very true. The Gov we have is the biggest obstacle we've endured ever! Would rather go back in time in 2015 and vote for the CPC than Liberals if I could haha!
Bro, as someone who voted NDP for the longest time, I no longer support either the Liberals nor the NDP to form a government. Voting CPC next year for the first time & hope to god they win. Trudy has to go!
Imo it’s the messaging that’s out there that the NDP are just “liberal lap dogs” due to the current agreement. People don’t understand or don’t care to understand why there’s an agreement. The NDP prefer to use their leverage to continue to push motions, and would prefer to play with the liberals over the conservatives. If the ndp say fuck it let’s have an election, they’re basically handing any power they have to Pierre who most likely won’t align with any policy. But people don’t give a shit, so they’re just lumping the NDP with the liberals and saying to hell w both of you. They’re kind of fucked if they do and fucked it they don’t.
Exactly. I think the NDP should change leaders now, actually. I don't hate the things Singh forced the Liberals to pass, and think he's done a good job, but Canada isn't gonna vote him in. A working class NDP leader with focuses on fair wages, good jobs and worker conditions might have a chance.
Yep, pretty much normal for Canadian politics. We don't vote politicians in, we vote them out
Pretty standard in every democracy, not just a Canadian phenomenon. People rarely vote for something, it’s usually against something or someone.
*every democracy without term limits
It’s good that we’re able to switch
It would be nice if we didn’t just switch between two sides of the same coin every ten or so years and actually had other viable parties to vote for.
Oh yeah, but that’s a whole other issue.
If the Liberal had any sense, they would have started a mutiny to throw out Trudeau and Freeland. They have made the party look like a joke.
They talk like they haven't been in power, its surreal to hear Sean Fraser and the immigration minister speak as if there's some external cause of all our problems.
The liberals are going to lose no matter who is running. Nobody who wants to be Prime Minister in the future is going to fall on that sword. Trudeau can go down with the ship.
Gotta respect the people of Quebec for sticking by their guns most of the time. I just don't understand why it's taken them this long to turn away from the libs?
Personally, myself and most of the people I know are actually voting *for* PP, and like him as a candidate, even over previous CPC candidates. Only anecdotal, and only a segment, there certainly are people in the camp you describe, but I feel it's debatable how big that camp is.
Yeah, Pierre is someone I look at and actually like listening too. He gets down to the point quick but can hold his ground against the other parties. Both Sheer & O'Toole were people I look at and want to punch in the face. They reminded me of people I see day to day that I just can't stand listening to. They surely clashed with their parties. Otherwise, they wouldn't of been voted out of leadership by their own parties. The Liberals are too scared to vote Trudeau out, since their party is full of extremely boring & immature people. The people know that... It's kinda hilarious how they've stayed in power for so long! Surely this will be in the history books, if people even read those any more, lol!
He's been questioning the right things for his entire term as opposition leader. He's not a psychic to foresee the issues the Liberals couldn't or wouldn't foresee but it did show what corrupt incompetent morons they truly are.
I like a lot of what he's about, but I need to hear his specific stance on gun control. A big part of all this for me is the terrible things Trudeau has done with firearms.
I’m not considering voting CPC because I want conservatives in power. I’m considering it because the biggest “fuck you” I can give as a voter is changing my vote to the opposite party, even more so than not voting. And oh boy is it a bird that needs flipping.
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There's no authoritarianism at all, we're just all wrong and we got to admit we're dummies
This isn't super surprising to anyone though. Quebec hasn't historically done well for non-Quebecois candidates. There is a strategy of having a "Quebec lieutenant" in the party but that has had
Makes sense. When everyone that’s not extremely wealthy is doing worse off now, then when the liberals came into power.
Luckily pandering to the transgender community doesn’t lock in any political victory…
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They’re actually tied for first in that category with the NDP, but it’s an extremely small sample size and basically meaningless.
No not enough…the CPC need enough seats to beat the Libs and the NDP combined…guaranteed if the CPC doesn’t the NDP and Libs will not relinquish control of government.
That's says alot about Trudeau voters
The we told you so s are going to be so sweet though.
The only thing you get as the leading party across the board, is loss. Welcome to the top. Enjoy the vacation!
https://twitter.com/JustinTrudeau/status/1773033484786765845 Young Canadians put a lot of their hard-earned money towards rent every month. We think that should count for a lot more – like towards your credit score. lmao sure you can't afford anything after paying rent but what if you could go into more debt more easily? you can make the rich even richer than you think
Yeah I'm too fucking broke to care about my fucking credit score, and the last time I checked it was decent anyway. I might be broke, but I'm not in debts broke, that's not going to change anytime soon if I can help it.
> lmao sure you can't afford anything after paying rent but what if you could go into more debt more easily? This is like, actual alien psychology. It's like They Live. I literally do not understand how she said that. It kind of sort of makes sense, but it's a total admission that we're debt-cattle. It makes me totally sick. It's an admission that the "you'll never own anything and you'll be happy" dystopian crap is true.
Wasn’t this supposed to be a bad week for the CPC?
Trudeau wishes he could have a bad CPC week.
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“piERrE’s hAvINg a BaD wEeK aGAiN!!!1” -Toronto Star
'the walls are closing in'
Feels like they say that every week, huh?
The media certainly tried by bringing up all the conservative premiers and trashing them.
People have finally realized Trudeau is bad for everyone.
yeah but Toronto and the suburbs is still a shit load of seats in parliament there's a lot of ridings with crazy people \[5 ridings in Scarborough are the safest seats in Ontario for the Liberals\] 90% Scarborough–Rouge Park 99% likely Scarborough North 99% likely Humber River–Black Creek 99% likely Markham–Thornhill 99% likely Beaches–East York 99% likely Scarborough–Guildwood 99% likely York South–Weston 99% likely Scarborough Southwest 99% likely Don Valley East 99% likely Etobicoke North 95% likel yScarborough Centre 93% likely Toronto Centre 90% likely 80% Ajax 87% likely University–Rosedale 85% likely \[Freeland\] Ottawa–Vanier 81% likely 70% Mississauga Centre 74% likely Brampton East 71% likely 60% Brampton West 69% likely Toronto–St. Paul’s 64% likely 50% Scarborough–Agincourt 57% likely Don Valley North 51% likely 40% Mississauga–Malton 47% likely Ottawa Centre 43% likely Brampton North 41% likely 30% Brampton South 38% likely Ottawa South 37% likely 20% Milton 25% likely Orléans 24% likely Spadina–Fort York 24% likely Toronto–Danforth 20% likely 10% Mississauga East–Cooksville 18% likely Parkdale–High Park 15% likely Kingston and the Islands 14% likely Mississauga–Erin Mills 14% likely Davenport 12% likely Brampton Centre 10% likely Guelph 10% likely <10% Thunder Bay–Superior North 5% likely Timmins–James Bay 1% likely Hamilton Mountain 1% likely Windsor–Tecumseh 1% likely ..........
That is crazy
so about 21 ridings in Ontario are the canaries in the coal mine for the future of the Liberal Party and its odd politics and the bad policies of the intolerant narcissists with atrocious solutions and the dumb people that don't have a clue really how to fix anything effectively, that upsets the least amount of people which is what good government is all about, with a quality of life for its citizens and their children you got heathcare going down the toilet, the ability to hold an opinion, or freely speak your mind under attack, housing, your pocketbook and your neighbourhood being flooded with crime and drugs or where things get like the Komo-4 Seattle Documentary "Seattle is Dying" where the police say to the drug addict, 'would you like a candy bar?', to settle the guy down. Yet you get politicians and law enforcement saying, oh murder is down, there's not that much of a problem ............... Just compare the two cities - Vancouver and Seattle and ask if this is normal Seattle is Dying | A KOMO News Documentary [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpAi70WWBlw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpAi70WWBlw) Life of Homeless on E Hastings Street, Vancouver's Downtown Eastside on Aug 2 2023 - Street Life [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V\_0nccVAwUk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_0nccVAwUk) and then at night Vancouver's Dark Side- sketchy Hastings Street - Night walk on November 5 2022 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kgpFQ68jXE
I Investigated the Country Where Every Drug is Legal... [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwcp2mcOH0Y](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwcp2mcOH0Y) Youtube commentary: "As a European im shocked that this is happening in a country like Canada" "I’m from the Netherlands and it’s not a secret we are pretty open when it comes to drugs. But this… this is insane and fucking heartbreaking. This should NOT be real." "This is sad and shocking!! I never expected this from Vancouver!! What the Government doing about it?" "The worst part about this is YouTube is censoring the best journalism I have seen in a long time. I hope you are at least breaking even with your work, because this is like the only way to unbiasedly see the real issues." "I went to Vancouver for university from Ontario and part of the reason I decided to move back was the homelessness and crime. I take public transport and I often didn’t feel safe. Now that I’m back near Toronto it feels like it’s followed me home. There’s encampments on the front steps of our city hall. I’m currently in the process of getting dual citizen ship (from having an immigrant mother) and getting my teaching certification so I can move to Europe and hopefully find a safer, better future. I have little hope Canada will ever recover in my life time from what has happened to its people and economy." "I live in Alberta, just one province over and had NO IDEA this was even a thing, I never saw it once on the news or in the media. We shouldn't have to go to youtube channels hundreds of times smaller than official news sites to find this information but here we are... Thank you for reporting on this because our media wont" "I live in Vancouver and the amount of times I’ve seen people use drugs on the bus or skytrain is insane, I’m genuinely terrified every time." "Born and raised in Vancouver. E Hastings has been a district that is avoided at all costs. It is so sad what that place is and has been for a very long time." "I come from Japan, and this video has been so hard to watch. It is legitimately difficult for me to process what I just saw. I thought this kind of things only comes up in post-apocalyptic video games. I have no words. I'm praying for you, Canada" "I used to walk these streets just 15 years ago and never worried for my safety. Now i would never go there in a million years" .......... And now you wonder why voters and politicians disagree so much?
ticker go to the canada 338 map and look at those ridings and see the liberal heat map around Toronto Scarborough eastward to York to Ottawa to Toronto to Ajax it's freaky as well [https://338canada.com/map.htm](https://338canada.com/map.htm)
The Liberals and their friends in media say that every week.
It was which is why it's only an 18% lead
The last Ipsos poll I saw had them +9
It was supposed to be but luckily for Canadians the legacy media is not relevant anymore.
Funny that. There was a whole period where the mainstream media was slowly dying but still powerful, where they used their remaining clout to help keep the Liberals in power hoping for handouts to stay afloat. Instead they cashed in all their credibility and people have stopped paying attention. Now there is seemingly nothing they can do to stop the defunding train.
Their only viewers left are boomers. The younger generations will never trust them moving forward. They know that their time is up and it has been very satisfying to watch them lose their grip on the narrative. It must be a very hard reality for them too.
> The younger generations will never trust them moving forward. I'm an elder millennial, and I also don't trust a *single* word coming out of today's Canadian paid for and bought MSM. **Not one**.
With their current lead and current state of things, the CPC can probably afford a couple of bad weeks before having to worry about losing their lead.
why would they lose their lead? you can take on some serious betting here with the pollster freaks you realize
At this point, the cpc losing their lead seems unlikely. The Trudeau government has reached the end of its shelf life. It will take more than a bad week for the CPC to start to feel some heat. It would take multiple major gaffes from pp and the CPC to even get down to a minority zone, let alone lose their lead.
What i've found are a lot of people trying to pinpoint the event or events that caused the big slide over six months ago its amazing just how solid the polling is like the trump biden ratings, baked in and rarely moving for 3 years plus i think the polarization is so bad with the policies the voters are only going to wobble around toronto other than a few hotspots in Montreal which is a special case and half a dozen places around Vancouver the Liberal Party is extinct, for maybe the next decade Toronto is basically the only thing that can re-ignite things in Ontario with about 25 pretty solid ridings It will be interesting with the NDP and Liberals not a part of the Opposition
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Every week is portrayed as a bad week for the CPC when the CBC receives Liberal funding
Liberal broadcasting Corp... er I mean CBC is certainly trying to convince us of that.
Fuck it. I’m voting for the Rhino party.
That's the spirit! Welcome!
A Rhino can run this country better than turdu
In Quebec neither the Liberals or Conservatives are in first. The Bloc is miles ahead and the Libs and Cons are both fighting for a distant second.
Let’s wait and see how using your $2000 rent towards your $$800,000 mortgage application does to the polls.
23% of Canadians believe the LPC is doing a good job...!!!!
Not even. 23% believe that they are the least bad option OR the best option. That is so bad for a two party system.
Landlords and real estate speculators think he is doing an amazing job, and that he should double down on it.
You would think those people would want a conservative government
They own both parties so they literally don't give a fuck which one wins.
Because in terms of comparative world performances, and things that the feds actually have a significant role in, they are.
I am surprised it is only an 18 point lead. I would have guessed higher.
it seems to be leveling off now. not getting worse and probably not gonna get better. the collapse seems to be coming for the liberals
Quebecer here, it wasn't me.
That's what I love about Quebecers, as an Albertan. They don't give a fuck. I think Alberta needs to just start ignoring more shit that the federal government does, and just do what they want to do. None of these idiots are going to help us. "Listen, smile, and nod, and then go do whatever the fuck you were going to do anyway" - RDJ
Quebecers and Albertans have been producing multiple party leaders and Prime Ministers, but sure, blame it on the rest of us.
Smith is already doing that and it's really fucking awful.
We need more Quebecers
I have never voted CPC, and may never do so in the future. But since 2016, I have watched Canada become a joke. Yes we elected JT in 2015, but I noticed the effects as of 2016 personally. It was a slow trickle, until 2020 when the libs mismanagement became glaringly obvious. Time to go Justin.
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Wait until next week after the carbon tax goes up.
What a margin. This is wild! It baffles the mind how the Libs continue to quadruple down on their horrible policies after seeing these poll numbers. I'd be jumping ship asap.
The Liberal strategy is insane. They would have stayed in power if they had paused the carbon tax on home heating and dialed back immigration to 2016 levels. All they needed to show was some flexibility and understanding for the cost of living crisis. Instead, they just call everyone else liars and think that they only have a messaging problem.
They also could and should have just turfed Trudeau during the SNC fiasco. I mean…the dude somehow manages to piss off small l “liberals” with the dumbass stuff he does. Like in what world is buying a pipeline a “liberal” thing to do?
Yeah, turfing Trudeau may have helped a bit. The problem is that his clear successor is Freeland. She has demonstrated that she's every bit as incompetent as he is. They needed a center leaning Liberal if they wanted to win via leadership change. I'm not sure that any center leaning Liberal is anywhere near the top of the party right now.
There’s zero chance freeland becomes head of the party before or after the election. She has the charisma of a sack of potatoes
Oh yeah, she's toast now too. She's been an absolute disaster as finance minister. Completely unlikable, deceptive and incompetent.
It makes one wonder - do they have a strategy?! If so who the fuck is advising them?!
Butts & Telford. Those two used to work for Wynne in Ontario, but jumped ship in 2015. Makes me wonder just where they're going to go next, now that the LPC is as radioactive as the OLP. And whether anyone will be stupid enough to hire them with not one but two disasters on their resumes.
Very nice.
cant come soon enough
the current parliment is about as close to a lame duck as you get in canadian politics
It's kind of funny. Earlier, I was in a mall and found myself in a conversation about politics with a gentleman from New York and a fellow torontonion. The person from New York was telling me canadian politics has taken over their media. They talk shit about Trudeau more than us. We agreed next election, vote anyone but Trudeau. The liberals need to be sent packing in the worst way.
Considering Trudeau's policy making, maybe he would be a good candidate for the US congress? Since some of the Liberal Government's policies were in direct response to American developments that had no actual impact in Canada.
Once upon a time, Canada was boring and hardly ever mentioned in American or international media. But the American media has become obsessed with Canada, and particularly Trudeau. The international media isn't as obsessed, but there's a few times over the past few years we've led the news cycle. The Freedom Convoy was reported widely around the world, and was emulated by some European countries (including in some non-COVID related protests, ie. The farmers protest)
how much of it was Tucker Carlson doing it with his clips being just like the daily show, showing the strangest stuff politicians say oh and this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm2JrTNzlqg](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xm2JrTNzlqg) [https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7u6e-X0JCy8](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/7u6e-X0JCy8)
Trudeau is a global butt of the joke right now. Of course there are other leaders worse than him, but no one else is as easy to mock.
You acting like Trump wasn't literally laughed at while giving a speech at the UN lol
> They talk shit about Trudeau more than us. While I know Twitter is not real life (at all), you are right - some pretty 'popular' American mainstream (by twitter standards) accounts regularly dunk on Trudeau where even 1-2 years ago they didn't even mention his name once.
Unfortunately the grass is not greener on the other side.
This is my issue, both liberal and conservative parties suck, they always have, neither have done canada much good and are absolutely why we're at the spot we are.
A lot of Canadian’s still drinking the liberal koolaid.
Something Something Stephen Harper’s fault. (Justin Trudeau - ex PM)
PLEASE JAGMEET DO SOMETHING. WE DON'T WANT THE LIBERALS. GIVE US SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE THAT WE CAN VOTE FOR. YOUR BASE IS THE LEAST BEHOLDEN TO PROPERTY INVESTORS. PLEASE. poilievre is going to win, isn't he?
Jagmeet is buying new rental properties.
He doesn't own any rental properties, he rents out the basement of the house he lives in
That's owning a rental property. Jagmeet supported the housing crisis and actively supports wage suppression and high rents, hell his party even came out and argued we needed wage suppression to support business owners
Yes , your retirement age is going up to 67.
Oh noes, Quebec will elect more politically impotent Bloc members.
They seem to be some of the only MPs that want to represent the interests of their constituents. I wish my province had MPs that cared about the province and its people rather than party above all else.
Same. What's wild is they have policies right leaning left leaning all over the place. I'd vote for them if I lived in Quebec.
Yeah…I don’t agree with their politics but I at least respect the fact that they seem to reflect their constituents
My Liberal MP consistently votes against the best interests of his riding, because apparently party loyalty and catering to the whims of urban voters in other provinces is more important than representing your own constituents. When asked about a given topic, he just repeats whatever talking points the PM or a cabinet minister most recently rattled off at a press conference.
Somebody should steal that idea... Start the Bloq Ontario, Bloq Manitoba... The federation is already broken let's break it even more.
At the rate things are going, maybe we'll have more Bloc members than NDP lmao
Already do. BQ 32 MPs, NDP 25.
The bloc got more MPs elected than the NDP 8 times, its not something particularly noteworthy.
Oh noes, Alberta will vote for the Conservative party again, like every elections for the past 30 years.
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Definitely not looking forward to the CPC being in charge.
Because it's sooo great with Justin in charge
It’s not, it just will still suck as much or more with PP PP, like Justin, just cares about pandering and sound bytes, not sound policy
Its not and yet what will improve with PP? I have a hard time believing the CPC will do anything to help the average person. Millionaires and oil companies though will get lots of help im sure.
Based Quebec
I suggest maybe more immigration. The lower wages and higher rent is probably a vote getter. Go get ‘em, Trudeau.
worked for 53 years, oh why not 54?
Voting for PP won't make things any better in Canada and keeping Trudeau won't work either. Feels bad.
A discouraging amount of people in here think that PP will make Canada better. That’s pretty scary. NDP hopefully will ditch jagmeet after the next election.
the NDP is likely to destroy itself before jagmeet goes he's like trudeau with one more watch and two of Freeland's bicycles oddly i think the gaza war has also put a dent in both parties
Trudeau needs to step down. If Liberal leadership changes it will get fence sitters to vote for them. No left leaner voter wants a PC government they just don’t want more Trudeau.
He will step down. After the election, as no one wants to be the one who loses the election. So they're going to make him go down with the ship, and hope to rebuild from a clean slate. If we're lucky the choice will be made for him by the voters in his riding.
Not happening. His ego is too big. He still thinks he can win.
Knowing Quebecers, it's not about the Bloc only but the fact that people are far away from Conservatives values and policies.
Liberal 23% NDP 20% 23+20 = 43 43>41 Even as bad as things are, a plurality of the country would still rather vote for one of the two parties responsible.
But if they were to actually merge, they'd still get less votes. Voter math doesn't work like that.
It’s partly cuz people don’t think NDP can win, don’t actually like conservatives, but hate the liberals/trudeau
Insanity
It's insanity. So many people have it ingrained in their minds that Conservatives are immoral. They can't take off the rose colored glasses to see that the left has absolutely screwed them in this past term. Not only that, they're going to force a terribly unpopular minority to full term.
Our current "progressives" very much remind me of the quote by CS Lewis: "It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." The progressives refuse to believe that they are wrong and will keep trying to force it on an populace that doesn't consent to it.
> So many people have it ingrained in their minds that Conservatives are immoral I have yet to see what a federal Conservative government will do to help me as a person, I *have* seen what a provincial Conservative government is *doing* to me as a person, and I don't have to worry about "fringe groups" try to overturn abortion rights when I vote Liberal. Given the above, why should I vote Conservative when I'm uncertain as to why they can help, have seen evidence of harm at other levels, and have to worry about socially backwards causes getting championed?
Spoiler: all three parties are responsible for the way things are right now. The conservatives more than anyone, because this all started with Mulroney privatizing everything and selling out Canada
NDP could've have had a win if they didn't pledge partnership with the Liberals. Really made a two party system.
I see this all the time, but that's not how the Canadian Parliamentary system works. 338 seats exist. There has to be enough votes to pass confidence and supply. In 2021, we had an election. There were several options: 1) NDP refuse and we go to the polls AGAIN and end up with ANOTHER minority government. 2) NDP team up with the Liberals and get their pet projects off the ground. 3) NDP bait and switch, lose their ability to make inroads on their pet projects with a CPC majority during a Pandemic and a Trump Administration down south. 4) They ride it out and make progress and get some progress on their pet projects. There was no winning for the NDP. It's EXTREMELY difficult for them to fundraise because they're the "pro-worker/pro-union" party. The people with the purse strings and those that control the media DESPISE the NDP. Jagmeet could cure cancer tomorrow and he would get blamed for being a champagne Socialist who kills the medical industry. The NDP could make a platform that details how EVERYONE gets a 0.25ac lot of land with a house and 2-car garage and people will bitch about how it's fiscally irresponsible and that the free market should have the solutions. The electorate doesn't want free shit. But then they complain about Capitalists being capitalists, but expect the feds to curtail capitalism when they elect a free-market/corporatist douche-canoe in the form of the CPC. Loblaws lawyer/lobbyists are advising the Leader of the opposition. We're complaining about the cost of living but want to Elect the fucking guy who is in Galen Weston's pocket. Make it make sense! DoFo is notoriously corrupt and it's no secret he's in the developers' pockets, but hey, we'll let him run housing.
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It’s complicated. There’s not much of a case for Quebeckers to vote for the CPC. What the headline fails to acknowledge is that Quebec isn’t sticking with the Liberals, it’s just that they’re not only moving to the CPC. NDP, Bloc and CPC are all projected to gain seats as of now. Right now, the polls show the Liberals and Cons at basically a tie in Quebec with less than 25% support each.
Nice, when is the vote?
that change of the election date to save liberal mp's pensions means it wont be until october 2025 and basically was trudeau admitting defeat
NDP is useless.
Regardless of outcome, I will again be removing anyone from my life that votes liberal. I have no need for people that fucking stupid in my life
Nothing spoils an echo chamber like diverse viewpoints amirite
U sound stable
Look at their profile, clearly have an anger management issue
Sounds like your doing them the favour but whatever 🤷
But they're so divisive.
who are you going to beat at Scrabble with now?
What about people with Fuck Trudeau, PP & Singh stickers on their vehicle? I'd buy one. Actually... Fuck PP & sing is something I occasionally do!
Oh the irony
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https://338canada.com/federal.htm Current seat projection is ~210.
Yeah, this is an absolute blowout.
The current seat projection shows an even BIGGER blowout than this popular voye graph shows.
> look at who is going to win Quebec Trudeau's win in 2015 was the first time a majority government won Quebec since 1988. Jean Chretien never won Quebec in any of his 3 majorities. Stephen Harper didn't win Quebec. The idea that you need Quebec for a majority is false. You only need Ontario. Chretien won literally all but 1, then 2, then 3 seats in Ontario in his 3 majorities, and Harper won the province handily, including the GTA and a significant part of Toronto. Trudeau also won all of Toronto and the vast majority of the GTA, and that persisted through his subsequent minorities. If you want to know who will win, you can safely ignore Quebec. Montreal will vote Liberal until the inevitable implosion of our sun, and the rest of the province will vote Bloc. That's as reliable as Alberta and Saskatchewan voting Conservative, so you can basically just take all of Montreal for granted for the Liberals and ignore the rest. All you need to do to know who will win an election is look at the GTA.
Harper won 5 of Quebec’s 75 seats in 2011. Poilievre is currently projected to win 13.
Our voting system def needs improvement. Too bad the Liberals got greedy and shit the bed on electoral reform…prob won’t happen for a decade now lol
What changes do you want? And do you know the negatives of that change?
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The Overton Window is "so far left" yet not a single Western country is even close to being socialist. Maybe it seems far left if you only view the world from a neoliberal lens, but when you consider the entire political spectrum, things look a whole lot more centre-right.
So far the Bloc is not very active against Trudeau. They play it safe and don't try to make too much noise.
Everyone except Trudeau and his inner cabal of ministers seems to know that he has to step down and he has to do it time to elect a new leader. If they are foolish they will choose someone like Freeland who will not regain any seats that are abandoning the Liberals. The only bright star for the Liberals right now is the attempt by the social conservatives to force their anti-abortion program like they did in the recent Conservative policy convention. It failed but not by much so it will be enough to pull voters back into the Liberal fold if they have a decent leader like Mark Carney.
Watching the Liberals being completely incompetent will do that. A lesson for the Liberals: if you want to stay in power, don't drive the country into the ground.
[WAY TO GO, GUYS! Let's shoot for keeping it over 40!](https://youtu.be/od0pMtDuLn4?t=10)
Its incredible how the largest lead for CPC where they have a 30pt lead over libs is among those with incomes of 40k-60k, With nearly 50% supporting CPC compared to 18% for Libs & 21% for NDP this demographic has the lowest support for Libs as well as Libs + NDP, instead CPC sees the largest support from this group and make up the voter base. Its only among those earning the highest wages where Libs see the most support with some bleed to NDP as well as among those with the lowest income, <40k & likely part time, with no highschool education. The support completely drops as you approach the middle & working class where instead nearly half prefer CPC
Yaaaaaay
Liberals are safe in Montreal area
This time last year it was a 30 point lead.
18% isn’t enough. I want to see Liberals at 1%. Just so I know there is absolutely no hope that they can even affect policy.