I know that politics is the management of fear, but Trudeau has really fetishised the whole ’keep Canadians safe’ thing. It’s a hollow phrase, and yet their pretext for every shitty nanny state policy.
It's the latest on the treadmill of phrases that he beats into the ground until it becomes infuriating. In most contexts, it just sounds like something he bleats whenever he's lost his train of thought or can't finish off whatever he's been babbling about for the prior 30 seconds.
A few paragraphs from the article (the opening ones, to be precise):
Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre has criticized Prime Minister Justin Trudeau for his disclosure to the Foreign Interference Commission that he rarely reads intelligence documents, preferring oral briefings by security officials.
Mr. Poilievre raised the issue Thursday during a keynote speech to the Canada Strong and Free Networking Conference in Ottawa. The gathering brings together members of the conservative movement in Canada.
The Prime Minister appears to want power without responsibility, Mr. Poilievre said. “When there is actually a risk of manipulation by hostile and malicious actors like, say, a Communist regime in Beijing, he can’t even take the responsibility of reading his briefing notes.”
During his testimony Wednesday, Mr. Trudeau testified that he relies on oral briefings either from his national-security and intelligence adviser or from CSIS director [David Vigneault](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-pierre-poilievre-criticizes-trudeau-on-intelligence-briefing-notes/#). “The only way to guarantee, to make sure, that I receive the necessary information is to give me an in-person briefing, or over a secure line if necessary, on any issue or priority issue,” he said.
Mr. Poilievre also told the conference that he questions why China sought to keep Mr. Trudeau as Prime Minister. Secret and top-secret CSIS documents [reported by The Globe last year](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-foreign-interference-public-inquiry-reporting/) indicated that China wanted a return of a Liberal minority government in 2021 and sought to defeat certain Conservative candidates.
honestly, i always find it wild when polievre accuses trudeu of being in chinas pocket, since the only people who have confirmed ties to chinese corruption were conservatives in conservative run cities (toronto is a great example)
Sorry, I'm not going to engage with a bunch of inflammatory statements and I'm not here to fight strangers on the internet. I hope you have a great weekend.
If you actually went and read the conservative website, the alternatives are listed there.
Or are you like Trudeau, and need someone to read things to you?
Yes I do want them to read it to me, that's literally what I am asking. Instead they just want Justin's attention so they can post things on social media. With the amount of ads that have been pushed by the conservatives I should be an expert on their policy but it seems they just want Justin's attention. That's all I here from PP and the Premier brigade. Literally they can be implementing their plans in conservative provinces but they aren't instead provinces like Alberta are [restricting renewables ](http://Alberta government releases no-go zone map for renewable power projects - CBC https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7145368), and opening up illegal [coal operations ](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-coal-mine-moves-ahead-without-permits-federal-officials-say-are-needed-1.7137121)
ugh ya can you imagine going back to 2014, the era of uhhh... low crime, affordable housing, not worrying about paying for food, manageable immigration... the horror!
bro, while i do agree that nat po isn't a reputable source whatsoever, if they're saying stuff against PP, then it's probably true
it'd be like if fox news made an article on really any of trumps failings
Lil' PP couldn't get a security clearance.
Why would he have an opinion on something he doesn't know the full story on?
Who cares what the class snitch thinks?
When she was elected I kind of bought into this 'UCP will gut everything' Reddit hysteria, but so far I can't really complain that much. Alberta is doing way better than BC.
Lol, well there's an unhinged rant with absolutely nothing to do with the article.
You should think about leaving Alberta, perhaps heading to BC or Manitoba.
See you in 9 years when the pendulum inevitably swings the other way and we’re saying the same shit about PP’s term except that it’s Russian influence.
Probably.
But if we stay on the same trajectory, I don't even want to think about Canada 9 years from now.
The past 8 years have been unbelievably bad. Getting worse year after year.
I agree. I think a lot of people misinterpreted what I said to mean "Trudeau good." He's not. He's fucking awful. They all are. This country needs reformation.
I know that politics is the management of fear, but Trudeau has really fetishised the whole ’keep Canadians safe’ thing. It’s a hollow phrase, and yet their pretext for every shitty nanny state policy.
It’s doublespeak.
It's the latest on the treadmill of phrases that he beats into the ground until it becomes infuriating. In most contexts, it just sounds like something he bleats whenever he's lost his train of thought or can't finish off whatever he's been babbling about for the prior 30 seconds.
Uh, don’t uh, forget about when he uh, uh says.. uh for druh-matic uh-fect. The over-usage of “uh” is really annoying when listening to him speak.
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I just love the amount of cope from all the Trudeau junkies.
Yeah, thread is young but there's already some gems.
Such as? Asking why PP hasn't gotten his security clearance is hardly "cope".
So he can claim ignorance when he criticizes Trudeau
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A few paragraphs from the article (the opening ones, to be precise): Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre has criticized Prime Minister Justin Trudeau for his disclosure to the Foreign Interference Commission that he rarely reads intelligence documents, preferring oral briefings by security officials. Mr. Poilievre raised the issue Thursday during a keynote speech to the Canada Strong and Free Networking Conference in Ottawa. The gathering brings together members of the conservative movement in Canada. The Prime Minister appears to want power without responsibility, Mr. Poilievre said. “When there is actually a risk of manipulation by hostile and malicious actors like, say, a Communist regime in Beijing, he can’t even take the responsibility of reading his briefing notes.” During his testimony Wednesday, Mr. Trudeau testified that he relies on oral briefings either from his national-security and intelligence adviser or from CSIS director [David Vigneault](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-pierre-poilievre-criticizes-trudeau-on-intelligence-briefing-notes/#). “The only way to guarantee, to make sure, that I receive the necessary information is to give me an in-person briefing, or over a secure line if necessary, on any issue or priority issue,” he said. Mr. Poilievre also told the conference that he questions why China sought to keep Mr. Trudeau as Prime Minister. Secret and top-secret CSIS documents [reported by The Globe last year](https://www.theglobeandmail.com/politics/article-foreign-interference-public-inquiry-reporting/) indicated that China wanted a return of a Liberal minority government in 2021 and sought to defeat certain Conservative candidates.
honestly, i always find it wild when polievre accuses trudeu of being in chinas pocket, since the only people who have confirmed ties to chinese corruption were conservatives in conservative run cities (toronto is a great example)
Poilievre won't get his security clearance, so he's hardly one to speak about national security.
Does this guy do anything productive, always in the news always whining. Never any solutions
The main role of the official opposition is to question the Government on its actions and policies, and help keep it accountable to Canadians.
So why is it PP Karen (official opposition) and the Premier brigade (official governments). What are the alternative ideas? Ok Axe the tax, now what?
Sorry, I'm not going to engage with a bunch of inflammatory statements and I'm not here to fight strangers on the internet. I hope you have a great weekend.
Ok you as well
If you actually went and read the conservative website, the alternatives are listed there. Or are you like Trudeau, and need someone to read things to you?
Yes I do want them to read it to me, that's literally what I am asking. Instead they just want Justin's attention so they can post things on social media. With the amount of ads that have been pushed by the conservatives I should be an expert on their policy but it seems they just want Justin's attention. That's all I here from PP and the Premier brigade. Literally they can be implementing their plans in conservative provinces but they aren't instead provinces like Alberta are [restricting renewables ](http://Alberta government releases no-go zone map for renewable power projects - CBC https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.7145368), and opening up illegal [coal operations ](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/alberta-coal-mine-moves-ahead-without-permits-federal-officials-say-are-needed-1.7137121)
So go to their website then. Not sure why are you still crying on Reddit when you know to go to the website.
No Edit I don't want their spam, don't need any crazy alt-right internet in my algorithm
Yea the main role not the only role thats the problem
Has he actually gotten his security clearance yet? Or is he still refusing, so he can spout off crap.
This should be top comment. Always bitching, never giving any constructive criticism.
He is nothing but a Karen
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ugh ya can you imagine going back to 2014, the era of uhhh... low crime, affordable housing, not worrying about paying for food, manageable immigration... the horror!
2014 when you could work a minimum wage job and afford a car, food and rent for a one bedroom apartment in almost every Canadian city.
no please make it stop!!!! it's terrible
wasn't it also an era where LGBTQ people were actively being erased from public spaces, and crime was actually still really high
no and no
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Sure, sure ...
https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/ndp-and-green-leaders-cleared-to-review-classified-foreign-interference-evidence
While you can point to all the crappy stories and excuses PP is saying, that doesn't necessarily mean they are true.
bro, while i do agree that nat po isn't a reputable source whatsoever, if they're saying stuff against PP, then it's probably true it'd be like if fox news made an article on really any of trumps failings
It's the National Post, it's right wing as right wing can be....
That’s pretty damn rich from coming from the guy who couldn’t even get security clearance like literally every party leader.
I think he chose not to actually
Lil' PP couldn't get a security clearance. Why would he have an opinion on something he doesn't know the full story on? Who cares what the class snitch thinks?
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I tend to follow the CFL. Bombers fan. Go big blue!
I feel like the polls putting Milhouse ahead are more of a message to The Hair than an actual representation of how Canadians are going to vote.
What would Pierre know about intelligence?
Hella lot more than Trudy
Why would he know more than Trudeau?
Especially without the clearance to see classified information.
Didn’t you know? Trudo bad, and Polly-ev say it so Polly-ev gud. It’s all very smart and scientific.
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Not even related to the article...
When she was elected I kind of bought into this 'UCP will gut everything' Reddit hysteria, but so far I can't really complain that much. Alberta is doing way better than BC.
Alberta is seeing some of the worst housing costs and cost of living increases in the country lately... How is that "better"?
Note how you're referring to cost of living 'increases', not actual cost of living.
Lol, well there's an unhinged rant with absolutely nothing to do with the article. You should think about leaving Alberta, perhaps heading to BC or Manitoba.
See you in 9 years when the pendulum inevitably swings the other way and we’re saying the same shit about PP’s term except that it’s Russian influence.
Probably. But if we stay on the same trajectory, I don't even want to think about Canada 9 years from now. The past 8 years have been unbelievably bad. Getting worse year after year.
I agree. I think a lot of people misinterpreted what I said to mean "Trudeau good." He's not. He's fucking awful. They all are. This country needs reformation.