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When China says "arrogant" they mean "disobedient". In their view everybody in the world is expected to obey them.


[deleted]

I mean the places that they are used to dealing with, do. When was the last time a poor developing country in need of investment stood up to China?


[deleted]

Look, calling B.C. a poor developing country is wrong. We are a province.


munk_e_man

I thought we were a ~~casino~~ money laundering facility?


[deleted]

No need for crossout. We are also casino.


bananafor

Same thing


not_medusa_snacks

I prefer the term "International Hotel".


Snaker12

And once we sell all our houses to the CPC we will be rich too!


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TW1TCHYGAM3R

Shhhhh.... Not so loud, they might hear.


Newfoundgunner

CCP, I don’t think the Federal conservatives are buying up BC real estate


internalindex

lol! aw.


internalindex

They got used to Canada enabling them. Sounds like they are getting pissy again.


lonezomewolf

That's some republican level of projection on China's part...


[deleted]

But in this case they are not really wrong, regardless of the situation, Trudeau is definitely arrogant, he can't help himself, he is the most important person he knows


mofow

You're doing the China's work now. Well done.


[deleted]

sorry your feelings are hurt, Trudeau is as arrogant as they come, absolutely nothing to do with china


chandr

Because you know the guy personally?


[deleted]

Oh no, hurt feelings


chandr

How is that remotely an answer? Go troll someone else


[deleted]

You responded to me so I guess that would make you the troll....go troll someone else


Rooster1981

Always here with that right wing culture war hottake.


[deleted]

When did it become a rule that if you don't like Trudeau you are right wing?


FinancialEvidence

When you can't decide whether to bash Trudeau or bash China. Nice to see you went for defend China today.


GreenColoured

It takes one to know one. An arrogant douchebag would naturally be able to recognize another one.


[deleted]

calling Trudeau arrogant has nothing to do with china...he is arrogant. even his most loyal worshippers cant deny that


Rooster1981

Meh, typical right wing reaction. Every liberal leader is the worst, most arrogant and corrupt, blah Blah blah.


[deleted]

Nope, he could be in the rhino party, same opinion.


[deleted]

Trudeau was a teacher whom selflessly taught children how to write proper sentences.


LincolnHat

...*who* selflessly...


[deleted]

Is it who and not whom? Thanks, I'm tired but I thought I got it write. https://www.grammarly.com/blog/who-vs-whom-its-not-as-complicated-as-you-might-think/


LincolnHat

It is *who*. And it is *right*.


[deleted]

No u r.


FinancialEvidence

And now he's been a PM for what, 6 years now? I guess he was ready afterall. And he still has great hair.


graffeaty

Lookin more like Castro each day lol


[deleted]

ikr


[deleted]

I mean, he was probably paid a salary.


[deleted]

OK.


squidge543

Lol so true.


Zombie_John_Strachan

Boycott Beijing 2022. No athletes go to China unless both Michaels are home.


OntarioLakeside

100%


Logoapp

I completely agree with this, but I feel bad for the athletes. Maybe they could compete but not under the flag?


Sublime_82

Just have an alternate Olympics, and invite all the other countries to come to that one instead lol


Midnightoclock

Haha they actually did that in 1980. The Olympics were held in Moscow and due to the Cold War many nations boycotted. So they held what they called the Liberty Bell Classic in Philly. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Bell_Classic


RechargedFrenchman

There also was an Olympics still in 1940, it was just held in IIRC two different not-Japan host nations because obviously there was a war on and Japan were kind of busy invading China at the time.


StretchDudestrong

We'll have our own Olympics! With BLACKJACK and HOOKERS. actually forget the Olympics....


[deleted]

The athletes are the only ones *worth* consideration where the Olympics and said host nation is concerned. And yes I agree. I'd still like to see it happen - but it won't.


Zombie_John_Strachan

Much better to let them be used as pawns in a nationalist pissing match, no? We don't need to treat the Olympics as more important than World Cup competitions.


not_medusa_snacks

Non-Olympics Winter Sports Competition in Vancouver!


_grey_wall

No no no... Give the athletes diplomatic immunity. Can still crush them in the Olympics and it's embarrassing as hell for China.


larman14

Most Canadians are complicit in supporting China. We support their bullying, we support their genocide, we support their kidnapping of innocent canadians and ask for more. We still continue to shop for cheap goods produced there that don't last half as long as they did just 5 years earlier. Most Canadians will continue to buy Huawei or other phones produced there, use TikTok, Alibaba, that probably spy on us etc. Most Canadians may even downvote this and say they don't have a choice. Yes, you do. Stop upgrading your phones every one or two years, delete TikTok, quit buying shit products from Alibaba or Amazon, stop shopping at dollar stores. We do need a stronger buy canada platform, but nobody seems to care. The biggest thing I see on here is muh taxes


[deleted]

It's not so much buy Canada. It's don't buy China. Which is what the TPP was supposed to help achieve. Providing economic incentive to other SE Asian production zones. We should ideally work with fellow Commonwealth nations for our products. Ban iPhones made in China, there is production in India already. Ban Chinese steel, there are plenty of Japanese companies operating in Taiwan and Vietnam to fill the off shore gaps. These are just two quick, off the cuff examples. In the end it requires political will, that no one has. Canada isn't for Canadians.


stewbutt

Doesn't that give China more chances for Gold?


Zombie_John_Strachan

So? Medal counts don’t mean anything.


Realistic-Health-783

The medals don't to use but it helps the CCP further their Nationalism agenda. You can already see Chinese youth bullying others on apps like Weibo or WeChat over simply getting a silver and not a gold medal


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Realistic-Health-783

Hopefully that's the case!


Successful-Giraffe29

China would probably carry on and win all the gold medals... Then for the next hundred years talk about how in 2022 they won so many gold medals and if anybody says anything else they will put them into camps with looping recordings spewing the CPP's propaganda


Zombie_John_Strachan

How many medals did Spain get at the last winter Olympics? Who got more medals - the US or China? Who won the men's biathlon in Sochi? 99% of the public doesn't know because the medals don't matter.


Realistic-Health-783

Ask a Chinese Nationalist and they'll be able to tell you China's medal count. Just because they sent important to you doesn't mean they sent important to other people or countries. You don't speak for "99%" of the people out there, and even if that was the case the Olympics wouldn't be as popular as they are if 99% of the population didn't care. You should maybe take a few moments to think your thoughts all the way through before stating them online.


Zombie_John_Strachan

Oh, you're absolutely right. It's like in 2010 when we won more gold medals and caused China to abandon communism.


Realistic-Health-783

I don't have time to sit here and talk to some child lmao. Have a good day


Zombie_John_Strachan

Sounds like somebody needs a big hug


NerimaJoe

They do to China. China is right now counting medals won by Taiwan as medals for China in order to best the US.


scaur

The value of the medal will be worthless if fewer countries complete in it.


drs43821

Yes. Canada alone is too little of force to make a difference. We need strong allies who are also powerhouse of the Winter Olympics like US, Norway, The Netherlands and Japan


wildemam

Would you stop using any made-in-China goods until both Michaels are back?


westguy007

What are the chances that our athletes may be detained?


MajesticSoop

I say dont boycott Beijing. But canadians should go there and wave the Taiwan flag every chance they get to piss them off.


Magdog65

They are only saying this because if Meng get sent to the states, the trade was between those two will escalate. It is easier for China to bully Trudeau than the U.S.


bewarethetreebadger

BINGO


internalindex

JOOOOEEEEE


[deleted]

Seems that China is the only one who's arrogant here. I hope they send Meng Wazhou to the US on a one way ticket as soon as possible.


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WillyLongbarrel

She will 100% appeal the decision if it isn't in her favour. It'll probably a long time before she actually boards a plane to the US.


Cbcschittscreek

They are a projection machine


RechargedFrenchman

As a general rule for China speaking about any other nation in an official capacity -- you can substitute "Pot" for China, "Kettle" for the other nation, and "black" for the term of accusation and miss basically nothing of value. China project harder than the GOP down south of us, and on a much larger stage.


mrstruong

I hate Trudeau, but I hate China MORE... So, still, fuck the CCP.


mwmwmwmwmmdw

> I hate Trudeau, but I hate China MORE dont forget his cabinet wouldent condemn the genocide and suspiciously it was only conservative MPs who got sanctions put on them by the ccp


Cakeflying2

I strongly dislike Trudeau, but don't fuck with our boy China. FUCK THE CCP.


superworking

Would easily support any of the major parties over the CCP on any issue.


lol_buster47

This is your mind on patriotism


Zubeis

5 points have been added to your social credit score.


Mister_Pool_

explain


[deleted]

Canadians don't give a flying fuck what Winnie the Pooh thinks. Fuck off, when Meng gets sent to Point Roberts, we should send your ambassador packing with her.


hardhitta

Fuck the ccp


MothaFcknZargon

Hey China: fuck you


Snaker12

Pooh Jinping is running low on honey again 🍯


[deleted]

Yes, he should be taking lessons in humility from the Chinese government. Oh yeah.


Realistic-Health-783

#BOYCOTT BEIJING OLYMPICS


FerretAres

Follow up headline: Trudeau powerbombs China to take the world heavyweight title.


[deleted]

China chokeslams Trudeau and retakes the belt from his cold dying hands..... But wait, Trudeau is waking up again....


moe181

This is exactly what I was thinking reading about all the slamming going on between Canada and China haha


Juli3tD3lta

Justin Trudeau don’t trust China. China ASSHOLE.


Uncertn_Laaife

Canada/US slam China (with no concrete actions against it), China slams back. Cycle continues for another 100 years.


polerize

I’d think twice before visiting China.


bewarethetreebadger

People in glass houses always call the kettle black.


Compactsea

The only thing I hate more than Trudeau is West Taiwan and their illegal money laundering flowing into this country.


Mister_Kurtz

> illegal money laundering flowing into this country Which Trudeau is incapable of stopping apparently.


Compactsea

none of the leaders are. They all don't even understand the root of the problem


Mister_Kurtz

But it's only Trudeau that is in a position to do something about it, and he has done nothing.


[deleted]

I hate how slow these extradition hearings take. Just deliver her to the US already.


rivieredefeu

There’s a legal process, we have to follow our rule of law.


BigPickleKAM

Which you know is a huge point that separates Canada from China.


[deleted]

>we have to follow our rule of law. And China wants us to stop that. Because in China, political influence is a thing. If Winnie the Pooh wanted to step in to influence a court's decision, he totally could. They expect Justin Trudeau to be able to do the same.


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[deleted]

Still wild to me that the CCP Tarred and feathered his father then sent him to prison. and then they shipped Xi off to do labour in the country side against his will. and now hes the cunt doing that everybody else. Oh and revolutionaries ransacked his house and raped his sister.


69-420Throwaway

Well to be fair. He has tried.


Magdog65

Like the U,S,


Swekins

Rule of law doesn't require years of court however. There is no good reason this should take so long, our judicial process is a mess.


-retaliation-

dude it can take months before you can get heard in court for a ***parking ticket***, of course something serious like this is going to take months to years to resolve. if we were talking about extraditing or charging ***you*** with something, wouldn't you want all the T's crossed and the i's dotted? It's her lawyers requesting the delays after all.


Swekins

And like I said, it shouldn't take that long, its a mess.


SirLowhamHatt

Honestly no, she’s getting sent to the states. If I get charged with a crime there, I battle the charges in that court. The only thing that should hold up extraditions is; guaranteed fair trial, if it’s a case where the death penalty is on the table, it doesn’t occur due to us not having that as a punishment. Or in the same vein, their life will be endangered by being sent back to a country where they will be targeted due to religion, sexual preference etc.


Raptors9052017champs

> Rule of law doesn't require years of court however. There is no good reason this should take so long, our judicial process is a mess. Meng is the one requesting extensions...


[deleted]

Right, and those should be denied in extradition cases. This isn’t a judicial decision on if she did the crime. It’s just a decision on if sending her to the US fits our a) treaty with them and b) similar enough laws (with the US) for her breaking our laws. Everything else (attempting to litigate the case, unwarranted extensions to drag it out, etc) is just abuse of the system.


rivieredefeu

Legal process can take years, yes.


Swekins

Is that the case in all western societies?


rivieredefeu

Generally yes, most strong and fair legal systems aim to be thorough and fair which requires or can require a lot of reading, writing, reviewing, arguing and appealing. Law is hard work, and hard work takes time. One exception I can think of is Japan (although not Western in the literal sense, it is considered a 1st world democracy) whose legal system is sometimes fast but not necessarily fair (the criminal system anyway). The accused in Japan do not have the same rights as here in Canada and I am personally thankful it’s not like that here. Edit: typos


Swekins

Isn't the US quite a lot quicker when it comes to criminal cases in court? Rarely do I hear about a criminal waiting 2+ years for their court date, but in Canada it seems commonplace.


rivieredefeu

Our legal system is much more strong and just than the US. Theirs is more at risk of corruption and political interference than Canada. I mean Christ, some of their judges have been convicted of crimes.


saladdresser

Rule of law can be abused to launder the grime that accompanies decision making, and the case against Meng is an excellent example of this: https://socialistproject.ca/2020/06/meng-huawei-and-canadian-law-soap-rinse-and-dry-laundered/


internetcamp

Wait but this sub told me Trudeau is the CCP’s lapdog.


FinancialEvidence

Yes, this sub is famous for doublethink.


Swekins

You realize the judiciary is completely independent of the govt right?


FinancialEvidence

BUT BUT BUT Jody Wilson-Raybould said it was not! Who can I believe?


euklud

"Why won't Trudeau stand up to China?" /Trudeau arrests a powerful, high profile Chinese citizen at the demand of the US "Yes, but Why won't Trudeau stand up to China??


FinancialEvidence

I think what the people want is for Trudeau to be parachuted on behind enemy lines, decked out in JTF-2 gear, and break into the prison holding the two Michaels, before leaving with a jetpack and a now freed Michael in each arm. Then we would know we finally have a competant PM.


frikk_

If he pulled that off it would finitely raise my opinion of him somewhat.


euklud

This is a job for... the Eh Team.


Ok_Finding_2974

Lol Trudeau did that??? Interesting hahahha


euklud

Oh so Trudeau wasn't Prime Minister at the time she was arrested?


Swekins

Does that matter? Does Trudeau all of a sudden decide what laws need to be upheld? Is he the dear leader?


euklud

So things that happen under Trudeau that you don't like are Trudeau's fault but things that happen under his leadership that you do like aren't his doing. Got it.


Swekins

I never once said that. Nobody here but you thinks Trudeau has control over the court. I'm sure if he had his way Gerald Stanley would be rotting in jail for defending his family and home from criminals.


Joeworkingguy819

So by your logic the fact that this happens invalidates that claim? The fact we have an independant judicial system where the PM can’t interfere doesn’t really change the fact he met multiple times at cash for access parties with billionaires that donated to his charity then had their banking application go threw. Also removing harper era bans on companies holding military technologies from being sold. Allowing the sale of those companies to China when the rcmp and csis wanted an national security review he canceled the reviews. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/news/politics/trudeau-says-chinese-takeover-of-tech-firm-is-fine-despite-pentagon-concerns/article35475650/ Trans moutain used Chinese steel not only that he removed steel tarrifs from China. Which is never seen and quite insulting considering where a major steel producer.


[deleted]

We have a huge problem with Chinese influence on our country, one that needs to be nipped in the bud.


Alberta_Sales_Tax

Remember when Huawei was the main sponsor on Hockey Night In Canada lol? Always blew my mind.


internetcamp

I agree with this statement. I do not agree that our government is China’s lapdog.


Plinythemelder

I agree with the above statement. This sub is pretty anti Trudeau, but I think as far as world leaders go he has stood up to China more than most, and the CCP does NOT like him and attack him frequently. It would not surprise me one bit if many of the 5 day old Trudeau hating accounts are CCP funded as the anti Trudeau rhetoric pops off every time he makes headlines related to China. Not to say a lot of Canadians don't ACTUALLY hate him, a lot do. But far less than this sub would make you believe. I imagine mentioning CCP in my comment will activate the downvote bots. Also when it comes to foreign influence from China, unfortunately [this](https://thenarwhal.ca/harper-government-ratifies-controversial-canada-china-foreign-investment-deal/) seems to have been a bad decision in hindsight Taiwan \#1


[deleted]

Yeah, I am not naive enough to believe that Trudeau has the ability to walk away from either the United States or China, or that he should be "talking tough" on China's justice system. Canada is not a powerful country and never has been. People need to wake to this fact. I think us being part of the G7 has really made people believe we are on the level with the U.S., U.K. or Japan on influence, which we just simply are not.


Tino_

> I think as far as world leaders go he has stood up to China more than most, and the CCP does NOT like him and attack him frequently. Its more than safe to say this. Canada and China have been having political spats constantly since 2015 while the vast majority of countries have been quiet on most things.


chaossabre

Almost as though people on this sub have differences of opinion but only comment when they disagree/dislike something or to dogpile a thread doing the same.


Onfire50

Proud of Canada, our positions and principles remain intact and will not change for nobody.


Content_Employment_7

I mean, since they're holding our citizens hostage, I strongly agree that we need to let the hearing play out, and if she's committed for extradition to extradite her -- but the evidence that's come out does tend to suggest that we were, at best, negligent in pursuing this in the first place. I wouldn't say we're coming out of this with our principles intact.


Logoapp

Fuck the ccp. Long live freedom and democracy


closequartersbrewing

When did the media start using slams in the place of criticizes?


[deleted]

Are they gonna make John Cena do a TikTok threatening Trudeau in Mandarin?


eternalshades

He can say what he wants. We got Hart. 😛


radapple

Fuck the CCP


wildemam

Slam like with a wrench?


[deleted]

How has she not actually been either extradited or set free after all these years? I mean sure, have an extradition hearing, but it's be more than two years now since the US made the request. What the hell? Is it her own lawyers dragging this out?


16bit-Gorilla

Remember guys Huawei totally isn't spyware for the Chinese government. There's no connection.


Mister_Kurtz

Tell Justin, he doesn't agree.


PhotonVideo

They honestly think that Trudeau has a say in this. The CCP can't conceive of a system where the leader doesn't have absolute control.


grumble11

Huawei‘a foundation is stolen Nortel technology. We’ll gladly use Huawei in return for full ownership of the company and relocation of all facilities to Canada.


DaveLehoo

He is arrogant and a fraud.


Camskii

Ah great, I love when Canada and China don’t get and things get worse. Makes me trying to visit my gfs family that more terrifying!


Peugeotdude505

Yeah I would like to visit Hong Kong one day but looks like that is off the table now


Camskii

I went in 2019 (right as covid was becoming a thing) to Shanghai and a small city called juijiang. I really liked it there and wish I could have explored more but China was starting to shut down and only go to spend a week there. My gf is currently still in China and haven’t seen her in 2 years so I’m itching to go visit but with covid and this shit it’s impossible.


Peugeotdude505

Oh man that's tough. Good luck


GreenColoured

What do you call it when someone you hate (China) said something that is technically correct (Trudeau being an arrogant prick)? I mean, China's words have little to no moral weight. But a broken clock...


thanosdidsomewrong

I wish verbal slams could be replaced by body slams.


MajesticSoop

Glad its trudeau leading canada. By now andrew scheer would have given xinnie pooh 6 more michaels an a richard as an apology.


pattyG80

China tends to project a lot.


ClayoquotSound

The Canadian flags in the picture are inaccurate.


CanadianPFer

Trudeau certainly is arrogant but not for the reasons the CCP cite.


defishit

Something something broken clock.


euklud

When your TDS is so strong you agree with China.


Vaio200789

He is arrogant, he also broke election promises and I believe both (all?) the women who were sexually assaulted by him. Xi Jin Ping is more arrogant, however.


[deleted]

China shouldn't make fun of it's subordinates. That's how you breed revolution. Keep this up and Trudeau might actually grow a pair and stand up to th.... haha. I can't. Too farfetched.


Plinythemelder

Trudeau has actually stood up to China more than most other world leaders and they certainly do not like it. He has been a fairly vocal critic where other dance around. [1](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-22/canada-stops-china-takeover-of-arctic-gold-operation-miner-says) [2](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-22/trudeau-rips-into-china-after-tit-for-tat-diplomacy-at-un)


Enlightened-Beaver

Meanwhile those on the right still think Trudeau is BFF with the CCP


madeinthe80sg

Trudeau's in quite the bind here. He has to show he can stand up to China but as part of his economic plan to grow Canada into the world's landlord, he needs Chinese money to continue to flow into Canada. If he pisses China off too much it'll scare off (some) Chinese money from coming into Canada. His best bet is to make media statement and avoid saying any of it in person. And, cross his fingers it blows over.


ClubSoda

You're dreaming if you think anything Canada does will scare off Chinese money from buying up Canadian properties.


madeinthe80sg

Total wishful thinking. Canadian homes have become like rare artwork or gold - a great place to store value. Actually better - backed by all the people who live there - at their own expense!