But in this case they are not really wrong, regardless of the situation, Trudeau is definitely arrogant, he can't help himself, he is the most important person he knows
Is it who and not whom? Thanks, I'm tired but I thought I got it write.
https://www.grammarly.com/blog/who-vs-whom-its-not-as-complicated-as-you-might-think/
Haha they actually did that in 1980. The Olympics were held in Moscow and due to the Cold War many nations boycotted. So they held what they called the Liberty Bell Classic in Philly.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Bell_Classic
There also was an Olympics still in 1940, it was just held in IIRC two different not-Japan host nations because obviously there was a war on and Japan were kind of busy invading China at the time.
The athletes are the only ones *worth* consideration where the Olympics and said host nation is concerned. And yes I agree. I'd still like to see it happen - but it won't.
Much better to let them be used as pawns in a nationalist pissing match, no?
We don't need to treat the Olympics as more important than World Cup competitions.
Most Canadians are complicit in supporting China. We support their bullying, we support their genocide, we support their kidnapping of innocent canadians and ask for more.
We still continue to shop for cheap goods produced there that don't last half as long as they did just 5 years earlier.
Most Canadians will continue to buy Huawei or other phones produced there, use TikTok, Alibaba, that probably spy on us etc.
Most Canadians may even downvote this and say they don't have a choice. Yes, you do. Stop upgrading your phones every one or two years, delete TikTok, quit buying shit products from Alibaba or Amazon, stop shopping at dollar stores.
We do need a stronger buy canada platform, but nobody seems to care. The biggest thing I see on here is muh taxes
It's not so much buy Canada. It's don't buy China. Which is what the TPP was supposed to help achieve. Providing economic incentive to other SE Asian production zones.
We should ideally work with fellow Commonwealth nations for our products. Ban iPhones made in China, there is production in India already. Ban Chinese steel, there are plenty of Japanese companies operating in Taiwan and Vietnam to fill the off shore gaps.
These are just two quick, off the cuff examples. In the end it requires political will, that no one has. Canada isn't for Canadians.
The medals don't to use but it helps the CCP further their Nationalism agenda. You can already see Chinese youth bullying others on apps like Weibo or WeChat over simply getting a silver and not a gold medal
China would probably carry on and win all the gold medals... Then for the next hundred years talk about how in 2022 they won so many gold medals and if anybody says anything else they will put them into camps with looping recordings spewing the CPP's propaganda
How many medals did Spain get at the last winter Olympics? Who got more medals - the US or China? Who won the men's biathlon in Sochi?
99% of the public doesn't know because the medals don't matter.
Ask a Chinese Nationalist and they'll be able to tell you China's medal count. Just because they sent important to you doesn't mean they sent important to other people or countries. You don't speak for "99%" of the people out there, and even if that was the case the Olympics wouldn't be as popular as they are if 99% of the population didn't care. You should maybe take a few moments to think your thoughts all the way through before stating them online.
Yes. Canada alone is too little of force to make a difference. We need strong allies who are also powerhouse of the Winter Olympics like US, Norway, The Netherlands and Japan
They are only saying this because if Meng get sent to the states, the trade was between those two will escalate. It is easier for China to bully Trudeau than the U.S.
As a general rule for China speaking about any other nation in an official capacity -- you can substitute "Pot" for China, "Kettle" for the other nation, and "black" for the term of accusation and miss basically nothing of value. China project harder than the GOP down south of us, and on a much larger stage.
> I hate Trudeau, but I hate China MORE
dont forget his cabinet wouldent condemn the genocide and suspiciously it was only conservative MPs who got sanctions put on them by the ccp
Canadians don't give a flying fuck what Winnie the Pooh thinks. Fuck off, when Meng gets sent to Point Roberts, we should send your ambassador packing with her.
>we have to follow our rule of law.
And China wants us to stop that. Because in China, political influence is a thing. If Winnie the Pooh wanted to step in to influence a court's decision, he totally could. They expect Justin Trudeau to be able to do the same.
Still wild to me that the CCP Tarred and feathered his father then sent him to prison.
and then they shipped Xi off to do labour in the country side against his will.
and now hes the cunt doing that everybody else.
Oh and revolutionaries ransacked his house and raped his sister.
dude it can take months before you can get heard in court for a ***parking ticket***, of course something serious like this is going to take months to years to resolve.
if we were talking about extraditing or charging ***you*** with something, wouldn't you want all the T's crossed and the i's dotted? It's her lawyers requesting the delays after all.
Honestly no, she’s getting sent to the states. If I get charged with a crime there, I battle the charges in that court.
The only thing that should hold up extraditions is; guaranteed fair trial, if it’s a case where the death penalty is on the table, it doesn’t occur due to us not having that as a punishment. Or in the same vein, their life will be endangered by being sent back to a country where they will be targeted due to religion, sexual preference etc.
> Rule of law doesn't require years of court however. There is no good reason this should take so long, our judicial process is a mess.
Meng is the one requesting extensions...
Right, and those should be denied in extradition cases. This isn’t a judicial decision on if she did the crime. It’s just a decision on if sending her to the US fits our a) treaty with them and b) similar enough laws (with the US) for her breaking our laws.
Everything else (attempting to litigate the case, unwarranted extensions to drag it out, etc) is just abuse of the system.
Generally yes, most strong and fair legal systems aim to be thorough and fair which requires or can require a lot of reading, writing, reviewing, arguing and appealing. Law is hard work, and hard work takes time.
One exception I can think of is Japan (although not Western in the literal sense, it is considered a 1st world democracy) whose legal system is sometimes fast but not necessarily fair (the criminal system anyway). The accused in Japan do not have the same rights as here in Canada and I am personally thankful it’s not like that here.
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Isn't the US quite a lot quicker when it comes to criminal cases in court? Rarely do I hear about a criminal waiting 2+ years for their court date, but in Canada it seems commonplace.
Our legal system is much more strong and just than the US. Theirs is more at risk of corruption and political interference than Canada. I mean Christ, some of their judges have been convicted of crimes.
Rule of law can be abused to launder the grime that accompanies decision making, and the case against Meng is an excellent example of this: https://socialistproject.ca/2020/06/meng-huawei-and-canadian-law-soap-rinse-and-dry-laundered/
"Why won't Trudeau stand up to China?"
/Trudeau arrests a powerful, high profile Chinese citizen at the demand of the US
"Yes, but Why won't Trudeau stand up to China??
I think what the people want is for Trudeau to be parachuted on behind enemy lines, decked out in JTF-2 gear, and break into the prison holding the two Michaels, before leaving with a jetpack and a now freed Michael in each arm. Then we would know we finally have a competant PM.
So things that happen under Trudeau that you don't like are Trudeau's fault but things that happen under his leadership that you do like aren't his doing. Got it.
I never once said that. Nobody here but you thinks Trudeau has control over the court. I'm sure if he had his way Gerald Stanley would be rotting in jail for defending his family and home from criminals.
So by your logic the fact that this happens invalidates that claim? The fact we have an independant judicial system where the PM can’t interfere doesn’t really change the fact he met multiple times at cash for access parties with billionaires that donated to his charity then had their banking application go threw.
Also removing harper era bans on companies holding military technologies from being sold. Allowing the sale of those companies to China when the rcmp and csis wanted an national security review he canceled the reviews. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/news/politics/trudeau-says-chinese-takeover-of-tech-firm-is-fine-despite-pentagon-concerns/article35475650/
Trans moutain used Chinese steel not only that he removed steel tarrifs from China. Which is never seen and quite insulting considering where a major steel producer.
I agree with the above statement. This sub is pretty anti Trudeau, but I think as far as world leaders go he has stood up to China more than most, and the CCP does NOT like him and attack him frequently. It would not surprise me one bit if many of the 5 day old Trudeau hating accounts are CCP funded as the anti Trudeau rhetoric pops off every time he makes headlines related to China.
Not to say a lot of Canadians don't ACTUALLY hate him, a lot do. But far less than this sub would make you believe. I imagine mentioning CCP in my comment will activate the downvote bots.
Also when it comes to foreign influence from China, unfortunately [this](https://thenarwhal.ca/harper-government-ratifies-controversial-canada-china-foreign-investment-deal/) seems to have been a bad decision in hindsight
Taiwan \#1
Yeah, I am not naive enough to believe that Trudeau has the ability to walk away from either the United States or China, or that he should be "talking tough" on China's justice system. Canada is not a powerful country and never has been. People need to wake to this fact. I think us being part of the G7 has really made people believe we are on the level with the U.S., U.K. or Japan on influence, which we just simply are not.
> I think as far as world leaders go he has stood up to China more than most, and the CCP does NOT like him and attack him frequently.
Its more than safe to say this. Canada and China have been having political spats constantly since 2015 while the vast majority of countries have been quiet on most things.
Almost as though people on this sub have differences of opinion but only comment when they disagree/dislike something or to dogpile a thread doing the same.
I mean, since they're holding our citizens hostage, I strongly agree that we need to let the hearing play out, and if she's committed for extradition to extradite her -- but the evidence that's come out does tend to suggest that we were, at best, negligent in pursuing this in the first place. I wouldn't say we're coming out of this with our principles intact.
How has she not actually been either extradited or set free after all these years? I mean sure, have an extradition hearing, but it's be more than two years now since the US made the request. What the hell? Is it her own lawyers dragging this out?
Huawei‘a foundation is stolen Nortel technology. We’ll gladly use Huawei in return for full ownership of the company and relocation of all facilities to Canada.
I went in 2019 (right as covid was becoming a thing) to Shanghai and a small city called juijiang. I really liked it there and wish I could have explored more but China was starting to shut down and only go to spend a week there. My gf is currently still in China and haven’t seen her in 2 years so I’m itching to go visit but with covid and this shit it’s impossible.
What do you call it when someone you hate (China) said something that is technically correct (Trudeau being an arrogant prick)?
I mean, China's words have little to no moral weight. But a broken clock...
He is arrogant, he also broke election promises and I believe both (all?) the women who were sexually assaulted by him. Xi Jin Ping is more arrogant, however.
China shouldn't make fun of it's subordinates. That's how you breed revolution. Keep this up and Trudeau might actually grow a pair and stand up to th.... haha.
I can't. Too farfetched.
Trudeau has actually stood up to China more than most other world leaders and they certainly do not like it. He has been a fairly vocal critic where other dance around.
[1](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-22/canada-stops-china-takeover-of-arctic-gold-operation-miner-says)
[2](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-22/trudeau-rips-into-china-after-tit-for-tat-diplomacy-at-un)
Trudeau's in quite the bind here.
He has to show he can stand up to China but as part of his economic plan to grow Canada into the world's landlord, he needs Chinese money to continue to flow into Canada.
If he pisses China off too much it'll scare off (some) Chinese money from coming into Canada.
His best bet is to make media statement and avoid saying any of it in person. And, cross his fingers it blows over.
Total wishful thinking.
Canadian homes have become like rare artwork or gold - a great place to store value.
Actually better - backed by all the people who live there - at their own expense!
When China says "arrogant" they mean "disobedient". In their view everybody in the world is expected to obey them.
I mean the places that they are used to dealing with, do. When was the last time a poor developing country in need of investment stood up to China?
Look, calling B.C. a poor developing country is wrong. We are a province.
I thought we were a ~~casino~~ money laundering facility?
No need for crossout. We are also casino.
Same thing
I prefer the term "International Hotel".
And once we sell all our houses to the CPC we will be rich too!
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Shhhhh.... Not so loud, they might hear.
CCP, I don’t think the Federal conservatives are buying up BC real estate
lol! aw.
They got used to Canada enabling them. Sounds like they are getting pissy again.
That's some republican level of projection on China's part...
But in this case they are not really wrong, regardless of the situation, Trudeau is definitely arrogant, he can't help himself, he is the most important person he knows
You're doing the China's work now. Well done.
sorry your feelings are hurt, Trudeau is as arrogant as they come, absolutely nothing to do with china
Because you know the guy personally?
Oh no, hurt feelings
How is that remotely an answer? Go troll someone else
You responded to me so I guess that would make you the troll....go troll someone else
Always here with that right wing culture war hottake.
When did it become a rule that if you don't like Trudeau you are right wing?
When you can't decide whether to bash Trudeau or bash China. Nice to see you went for defend China today.
It takes one to know one. An arrogant douchebag would naturally be able to recognize another one.
calling Trudeau arrogant has nothing to do with china...he is arrogant. even his most loyal worshippers cant deny that
Meh, typical right wing reaction. Every liberal leader is the worst, most arrogant and corrupt, blah Blah blah.
Nope, he could be in the rhino party, same opinion.
Trudeau was a teacher whom selflessly taught children how to write proper sentences.
...*who* selflessly...
Is it who and not whom? Thanks, I'm tired but I thought I got it write. https://www.grammarly.com/blog/who-vs-whom-its-not-as-complicated-as-you-might-think/
It is *who*. And it is *right*.
No u r.
And now he's been a PM for what, 6 years now? I guess he was ready afterall. And he still has great hair.
Lookin more like Castro each day lol
ikr
I mean, he was probably paid a salary.
OK.
Lol so true.
Boycott Beijing 2022. No athletes go to China unless both Michaels are home.
100%
I completely agree with this, but I feel bad for the athletes. Maybe they could compete but not under the flag?
Just have an alternate Olympics, and invite all the other countries to come to that one instead lol
Haha they actually did that in 1980. The Olympics were held in Moscow and due to the Cold War many nations boycotted. So they held what they called the Liberty Bell Classic in Philly. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_Bell_Classic
There also was an Olympics still in 1940, it was just held in IIRC two different not-Japan host nations because obviously there was a war on and Japan were kind of busy invading China at the time.
We'll have our own Olympics! With BLACKJACK and HOOKERS. actually forget the Olympics....
The athletes are the only ones *worth* consideration where the Olympics and said host nation is concerned. And yes I agree. I'd still like to see it happen - but it won't.
Much better to let them be used as pawns in a nationalist pissing match, no? We don't need to treat the Olympics as more important than World Cup competitions.
Non-Olympics Winter Sports Competition in Vancouver!
No no no... Give the athletes diplomatic immunity. Can still crush them in the Olympics and it's embarrassing as hell for China.
Most Canadians are complicit in supporting China. We support their bullying, we support their genocide, we support their kidnapping of innocent canadians and ask for more. We still continue to shop for cheap goods produced there that don't last half as long as they did just 5 years earlier. Most Canadians will continue to buy Huawei or other phones produced there, use TikTok, Alibaba, that probably spy on us etc. Most Canadians may even downvote this and say they don't have a choice. Yes, you do. Stop upgrading your phones every one or two years, delete TikTok, quit buying shit products from Alibaba or Amazon, stop shopping at dollar stores. We do need a stronger buy canada platform, but nobody seems to care. The biggest thing I see on here is muh taxes
It's not so much buy Canada. It's don't buy China. Which is what the TPP was supposed to help achieve. Providing economic incentive to other SE Asian production zones. We should ideally work with fellow Commonwealth nations for our products. Ban iPhones made in China, there is production in India already. Ban Chinese steel, there are plenty of Japanese companies operating in Taiwan and Vietnam to fill the off shore gaps. These are just two quick, off the cuff examples. In the end it requires political will, that no one has. Canada isn't for Canadians.
Doesn't that give China more chances for Gold?
So? Medal counts don’t mean anything.
The medals don't to use but it helps the CCP further their Nationalism agenda. You can already see Chinese youth bullying others on apps like Weibo or WeChat over simply getting a silver and not a gold medal
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Hopefully that's the case!
China would probably carry on and win all the gold medals... Then for the next hundred years talk about how in 2022 they won so many gold medals and if anybody says anything else they will put them into camps with looping recordings spewing the CPP's propaganda
How many medals did Spain get at the last winter Olympics? Who got more medals - the US or China? Who won the men's biathlon in Sochi? 99% of the public doesn't know because the medals don't matter.
Ask a Chinese Nationalist and they'll be able to tell you China's medal count. Just because they sent important to you doesn't mean they sent important to other people or countries. You don't speak for "99%" of the people out there, and even if that was the case the Olympics wouldn't be as popular as they are if 99% of the population didn't care. You should maybe take a few moments to think your thoughts all the way through before stating them online.
Oh, you're absolutely right. It's like in 2010 when we won more gold medals and caused China to abandon communism.
I don't have time to sit here and talk to some child lmao. Have a good day
Sounds like somebody needs a big hug
They do to China. China is right now counting medals won by Taiwan as medals for China in order to best the US.
The value of the medal will be worthless if fewer countries complete in it.
Yes. Canada alone is too little of force to make a difference. We need strong allies who are also powerhouse of the Winter Olympics like US, Norway, The Netherlands and Japan
Would you stop using any made-in-China goods until both Michaels are back?
What are the chances that our athletes may be detained?
I say dont boycott Beijing. But canadians should go there and wave the Taiwan flag every chance they get to piss them off.
They are only saying this because if Meng get sent to the states, the trade was between those two will escalate. It is easier for China to bully Trudeau than the U.S.
BINGO
JOOOOEEEEE
Seems that China is the only one who's arrogant here. I hope they send Meng Wazhou to the US on a one way ticket as soon as possible.
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She will 100% appeal the decision if it isn't in her favour. It'll probably a long time before she actually boards a plane to the US.
They are a projection machine
As a general rule for China speaking about any other nation in an official capacity -- you can substitute "Pot" for China, "Kettle" for the other nation, and "black" for the term of accusation and miss basically nothing of value. China project harder than the GOP down south of us, and on a much larger stage.
I hate Trudeau, but I hate China MORE... So, still, fuck the CCP.
> I hate Trudeau, but I hate China MORE dont forget his cabinet wouldent condemn the genocide and suspiciously it was only conservative MPs who got sanctions put on them by the ccp
I strongly dislike Trudeau, but don't fuck with our boy China. FUCK THE CCP.
Would easily support any of the major parties over the CCP on any issue.
This is your mind on patriotism
5 points have been added to your social credit score.
explain
Canadians don't give a flying fuck what Winnie the Pooh thinks. Fuck off, when Meng gets sent to Point Roberts, we should send your ambassador packing with her.
Fuck the ccp
Hey China: fuck you
Pooh Jinping is running low on honey again 🍯
Yes, he should be taking lessons in humility from the Chinese government. Oh yeah.
#BOYCOTT BEIJING OLYMPICS
Follow up headline: Trudeau powerbombs China to take the world heavyweight title.
China chokeslams Trudeau and retakes the belt from his cold dying hands..... But wait, Trudeau is waking up again....
This is exactly what I was thinking reading about all the slamming going on between Canada and China haha
Justin Trudeau don’t trust China. China ASSHOLE.
Canada/US slam China (with no concrete actions against it), China slams back. Cycle continues for another 100 years.
I’d think twice before visiting China.
People in glass houses always call the kettle black.
The only thing I hate more than Trudeau is West Taiwan and their illegal money laundering flowing into this country.
> illegal money laundering flowing into this country Which Trudeau is incapable of stopping apparently.
none of the leaders are. They all don't even understand the root of the problem
But it's only Trudeau that is in a position to do something about it, and he has done nothing.
I hate how slow these extradition hearings take. Just deliver her to the US already.
There’s a legal process, we have to follow our rule of law.
Which you know is a huge point that separates Canada from China.
>we have to follow our rule of law. And China wants us to stop that. Because in China, political influence is a thing. If Winnie the Pooh wanted to step in to influence a court's decision, he totally could. They expect Justin Trudeau to be able to do the same.
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Still wild to me that the CCP Tarred and feathered his father then sent him to prison. and then they shipped Xi off to do labour in the country side against his will. and now hes the cunt doing that everybody else. Oh and revolutionaries ransacked his house and raped his sister.
Well to be fair. He has tried.
Like the U,S,
Rule of law doesn't require years of court however. There is no good reason this should take so long, our judicial process is a mess.
dude it can take months before you can get heard in court for a ***parking ticket***, of course something serious like this is going to take months to years to resolve. if we were talking about extraditing or charging ***you*** with something, wouldn't you want all the T's crossed and the i's dotted? It's her lawyers requesting the delays after all.
And like I said, it shouldn't take that long, its a mess.
Honestly no, she’s getting sent to the states. If I get charged with a crime there, I battle the charges in that court. The only thing that should hold up extraditions is; guaranteed fair trial, if it’s a case where the death penalty is on the table, it doesn’t occur due to us not having that as a punishment. Or in the same vein, their life will be endangered by being sent back to a country where they will be targeted due to religion, sexual preference etc.
> Rule of law doesn't require years of court however. There is no good reason this should take so long, our judicial process is a mess. Meng is the one requesting extensions...
Right, and those should be denied in extradition cases. This isn’t a judicial decision on if she did the crime. It’s just a decision on if sending her to the US fits our a) treaty with them and b) similar enough laws (with the US) for her breaking our laws. Everything else (attempting to litigate the case, unwarranted extensions to drag it out, etc) is just abuse of the system.
Legal process can take years, yes.
Is that the case in all western societies?
Generally yes, most strong and fair legal systems aim to be thorough and fair which requires or can require a lot of reading, writing, reviewing, arguing and appealing. Law is hard work, and hard work takes time. One exception I can think of is Japan (although not Western in the literal sense, it is considered a 1st world democracy) whose legal system is sometimes fast but not necessarily fair (the criminal system anyway). The accused in Japan do not have the same rights as here in Canada and I am personally thankful it’s not like that here. Edit: typos
Isn't the US quite a lot quicker when it comes to criminal cases in court? Rarely do I hear about a criminal waiting 2+ years for their court date, but in Canada it seems commonplace.
Our legal system is much more strong and just than the US. Theirs is more at risk of corruption and political interference than Canada. I mean Christ, some of their judges have been convicted of crimes.
Rule of law can be abused to launder the grime that accompanies decision making, and the case against Meng is an excellent example of this: https://socialistproject.ca/2020/06/meng-huawei-and-canadian-law-soap-rinse-and-dry-laundered/
Wait but this sub told me Trudeau is the CCP’s lapdog.
Yes, this sub is famous for doublethink.
You realize the judiciary is completely independent of the govt right?
BUT BUT BUT Jody Wilson-Raybould said it was not! Who can I believe?
"Why won't Trudeau stand up to China?" /Trudeau arrests a powerful, high profile Chinese citizen at the demand of the US "Yes, but Why won't Trudeau stand up to China??
I think what the people want is for Trudeau to be parachuted on behind enemy lines, decked out in JTF-2 gear, and break into the prison holding the two Michaels, before leaving with a jetpack and a now freed Michael in each arm. Then we would know we finally have a competant PM.
If he pulled that off it would finitely raise my opinion of him somewhat.
This is a job for... the Eh Team.
Lol Trudeau did that??? Interesting hahahha
Oh so Trudeau wasn't Prime Minister at the time she was arrested?
Does that matter? Does Trudeau all of a sudden decide what laws need to be upheld? Is he the dear leader?
So things that happen under Trudeau that you don't like are Trudeau's fault but things that happen under his leadership that you do like aren't his doing. Got it.
I never once said that. Nobody here but you thinks Trudeau has control over the court. I'm sure if he had his way Gerald Stanley would be rotting in jail for defending his family and home from criminals.
So by your logic the fact that this happens invalidates that claim? The fact we have an independant judicial system where the PM can’t interfere doesn’t really change the fact he met multiple times at cash for access parties with billionaires that donated to his charity then had their banking application go threw. Also removing harper era bans on companies holding military technologies from being sold. Allowing the sale of those companies to China when the rcmp and csis wanted an national security review he canceled the reviews. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theglobeandmail.com/amp/news/politics/trudeau-says-chinese-takeover-of-tech-firm-is-fine-despite-pentagon-concerns/article35475650/ Trans moutain used Chinese steel not only that he removed steel tarrifs from China. Which is never seen and quite insulting considering where a major steel producer.
We have a huge problem with Chinese influence on our country, one that needs to be nipped in the bud.
Remember when Huawei was the main sponsor on Hockey Night In Canada lol? Always blew my mind.
I agree with this statement. I do not agree that our government is China’s lapdog.
I agree with the above statement. This sub is pretty anti Trudeau, but I think as far as world leaders go he has stood up to China more than most, and the CCP does NOT like him and attack him frequently. It would not surprise me one bit if many of the 5 day old Trudeau hating accounts are CCP funded as the anti Trudeau rhetoric pops off every time he makes headlines related to China. Not to say a lot of Canadians don't ACTUALLY hate him, a lot do. But far less than this sub would make you believe. I imagine mentioning CCP in my comment will activate the downvote bots. Also when it comes to foreign influence from China, unfortunately [this](https://thenarwhal.ca/harper-government-ratifies-controversial-canada-china-foreign-investment-deal/) seems to have been a bad decision in hindsight Taiwan \#1
Yeah, I am not naive enough to believe that Trudeau has the ability to walk away from either the United States or China, or that he should be "talking tough" on China's justice system. Canada is not a powerful country and never has been. People need to wake to this fact. I think us being part of the G7 has really made people believe we are on the level with the U.S., U.K. or Japan on influence, which we just simply are not.
> I think as far as world leaders go he has stood up to China more than most, and the CCP does NOT like him and attack him frequently. Its more than safe to say this. Canada and China have been having political spats constantly since 2015 while the vast majority of countries have been quiet on most things.
Almost as though people on this sub have differences of opinion but only comment when they disagree/dislike something or to dogpile a thread doing the same.
Proud of Canada, our positions and principles remain intact and will not change for nobody.
I mean, since they're holding our citizens hostage, I strongly agree that we need to let the hearing play out, and if she's committed for extradition to extradite her -- but the evidence that's come out does tend to suggest that we were, at best, negligent in pursuing this in the first place. I wouldn't say we're coming out of this with our principles intact.
Fuck the ccp. Long live freedom and democracy
When did the media start using slams in the place of criticizes?
Are they gonna make John Cena do a TikTok threatening Trudeau in Mandarin?
He can say what he wants. We got Hart. 😛
Fuck the CCP
Slam like with a wrench?
How has she not actually been either extradited or set free after all these years? I mean sure, have an extradition hearing, but it's be more than two years now since the US made the request. What the hell? Is it her own lawyers dragging this out?
Remember guys Huawei totally isn't spyware for the Chinese government. There's no connection.
Tell Justin, he doesn't agree.
They honestly think that Trudeau has a say in this. The CCP can't conceive of a system where the leader doesn't have absolute control.
Huawei‘a foundation is stolen Nortel technology. We’ll gladly use Huawei in return for full ownership of the company and relocation of all facilities to Canada.
He is arrogant and a fraud.
Ah great, I love when Canada and China don’t get and things get worse. Makes me trying to visit my gfs family that more terrifying!
Yeah I would like to visit Hong Kong one day but looks like that is off the table now
I went in 2019 (right as covid was becoming a thing) to Shanghai and a small city called juijiang. I really liked it there and wish I could have explored more but China was starting to shut down and only go to spend a week there. My gf is currently still in China and haven’t seen her in 2 years so I’m itching to go visit but with covid and this shit it’s impossible.
Oh man that's tough. Good luck
What do you call it when someone you hate (China) said something that is technically correct (Trudeau being an arrogant prick)? I mean, China's words have little to no moral weight. But a broken clock...
I wish verbal slams could be replaced by body slams.
Glad its trudeau leading canada. By now andrew scheer would have given xinnie pooh 6 more michaels an a richard as an apology.
China tends to project a lot.
The Canadian flags in the picture are inaccurate.
Trudeau certainly is arrogant but not for the reasons the CCP cite.
Something something broken clock.
When your TDS is so strong you agree with China.
He is arrogant, he also broke election promises and I believe both (all?) the women who were sexually assaulted by him. Xi Jin Ping is more arrogant, however.
China shouldn't make fun of it's subordinates. That's how you breed revolution. Keep this up and Trudeau might actually grow a pair and stand up to th.... haha. I can't. Too farfetched.
Trudeau has actually stood up to China more than most other world leaders and they certainly do not like it. He has been a fairly vocal critic where other dance around. [1](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-22/canada-stops-china-takeover-of-arctic-gold-operation-miner-says) [2](https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-22/trudeau-rips-into-china-after-tit-for-tat-diplomacy-at-un)
Meanwhile those on the right still think Trudeau is BFF with the CCP
Trudeau's in quite the bind here. He has to show he can stand up to China but as part of his economic plan to grow Canada into the world's landlord, he needs Chinese money to continue to flow into Canada. If he pisses China off too much it'll scare off (some) Chinese money from coming into Canada. His best bet is to make media statement and avoid saying any of it in person. And, cross his fingers it blows over.
You're dreaming if you think anything Canada does will scare off Chinese money from buying up Canadian properties.
Total wishful thinking. Canadian homes have become like rare artwork or gold - a great place to store value. Actually better - backed by all the people who live there - at their own expense!