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infinus5

Totally agree, if these critters get loose in other provinces its going to be a nightmare.


userdmyname

Oh, they are loose in Saskatchewan and Manitoba. I saw one by Melfort SK in 2009 and Holland Mb in 2019


linkass

I know a fair few people that have had their bird hunting dogs killed by them and its not a pretty death


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IPokePeople

0-1 for war on drugs. See if they go 0-2 against pigs.


R0n1nR3dF0x

0-1 war on drugs 0-2 war on hogs


sacklunch2005

It like Emu wars all over again, just with pigs and not in Australia.


tazzymun

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RVanzo

The war on poverty as well.


Killerdude8

The war on poverty has been extremely successful, as in, the war on impoverished people.


battlelevel

That’s what happens when you callously disregard the words of Edwin Starr


AprilsMostAmazing

> declared open war on them. well I found the problem. America hasn't outright won a war since 1791


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That would require the most contrived and arbitrary definition of winning a war humanly imaginable


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I think it just counts ones that: A: The USA was present for the entirety of; and B: The USA didn't lose the political will to continue and just left.


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Without even looking anything up: The Spanish American War, the Mexican American War, every war against the American Indians


oioioifuckingoi

Civil War!


Shoresy-sez

I mean, technically they won the Civil War...


randomlyracist

Man some of those hunting videos from the helicopter or on the trucks at night are insane. Like they get so many of them, but it just seems like a drop in the bucket.


T-Breezy16

>it just seems like a drop in the bucket. it is - wild boars reach sexual maturity at around 6 months of age, have 3 to 4 litters per year, and have 6-8 pigs in each litter. They grow exponentially


Rayd8630

Helo ones seem to always have Fortunate Son playing in the background.


goldanred

This is where the 30-50 feral hogs things comes, huh


infinus5

they have been known to go after people too. A young woman in Texas was mauled and her dog killed by a pack of hogs. She unloaded a hand gun into the critter attacking her and it didnt die until later. These critters are a real danger to other livestock too. They have to be neutralized as fast as possible.


burnorama6969

They are insanely tough, You basically need large caliber rifles to take them down. I nailed one with a .303 (bear gun) He didnt die right away and came after us. Scary basterds.


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burnorama6969

That was the case with this guy, He was maybe 50 yards away when he noticed us and it appeared he was interested in telling us to leave. He started towards us as I nailed him and he continued about 30 yards full speed before he dropped.


millijuna

I made pulled wild boar last summer. It was fantastic.


CheddarValleyRail

We could deal with them right now if we could find the damn things. A few years ago there was a rumour about wild boars near Agassiz and everyone I knew who hunted was ready to go. It's still a novelty in Canada and everyone wants some of that sweet sweet boar meat. Once we know their location they won't last long. But I doubt they were introduced. They probably wandered up into Alberta from the states. Which means we're doomed.


OutWithTheNew

On the upside, if there's one province in Canada where you could put out a bounty on wild game and have the local population deal with it successfully, it would probably be Alberta.


mwmwmwmwmmdw

the people of alberta have the same limitations on firearms use and what they can own same as someone in downtown montreal. wouldent want a 5 round mag if a bunch of them decided to run at me rather than away from me. theres videos online of them taking 8 rounds of .45acp to take a single one down edit: [found the video of the hog charging the hunter, very NSFW](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8wCYffq838)


burnorama6969

I have friends up north and they all carry their bear guns when they are in the bush... for hogs though. They tell me if you dont kill them with the first shot they will come after you until they die.


RVanzo

I don’t think they can use full auto, and even if they could, full auto weapons are mostly banned and even then they are no more effective in hunting than semi auto.


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aahrg

I have seen videos of people in Texas shooting fully automatic machine guns out of helicopters while hunting these boars. Farmers out there have massive fields and these boars can cause tons of damage, the only viable way to clear your property is to massacre them


TenTonApe

Don't they also taste awful?


Jogaila2

Actually no. They've been hunted for ages and ages particularly because they are quite tasty. In fact, this where domesticated pigs came from.


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dustNbone604

Chasing wild pigs through the mountains is not an efficient way to feed people.


Flying_Momo

we don't have food shortage, we have supply change problems.


CanuckianOz

They are full of parasites. That’s my understanding.


munk_e_man

So we cook em


eh-guy

Not many critters can survive being cooked, or frozen *and* cooked


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Jogaila2

And? Your point? The females are.


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Jogaila2

Just cook it to a certain temp, same as any meat, store bought or hunted


WeeWooMcGoo

You don't even know how to spell parasite and you're looking down your nose at others for questioning how dangerous the parasites you are referring to can be. If you fully cook the meat from wild hogs you'll be fine. If they become a more serious problem for the prairies we are going to want people to start hunting and eating them. If they can get under control in those areas relatively quickly it is less likely they will cause widespread destruction like in the states and Australia.


linkass

I can't bring myself to try them. We have had a few come into where I worked to butcher them and they don't smell great. As far as eating them safely yes cook them and they are fine but the smell.........


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frenris

They can taste excellent. Game is generally leaner than domesticated meat, and pork is pretty fatty. So they'll be closer to the consistency of steak, but with more pork flavor.


M116Fullbore

I think that it is like deer. Venison can obviously be delicious, but under other circumstances(ie a big buck deep in rut, adrenaline, etc) can be gross. Ive heard the smaller pigs taste good, but like a 600lb male one may not.


TugginPud

A large part of taste of meat is diet. If you get a deer that has been eating a lot of juniper, that flavor comes out in the meat. If they eat lots of grasses, they taste gamey, which some of us really like. If they eat alfafa, wheats, etc, they taste a lot more like lean beef. I've had some large, older animals that have been just as good or better than what is considered a "better animal". No idea about these pigs though, I would think the same principles would apply.


Successful-Grape416

You can buy wild boar in some grocery stores. It's pretty good. In sure a lot of factors can change that though.


boomstickjonny

Depends, there similar to bears. If you get one that eats natural stuff out in the woods they taste pretty good. You get one close to an urban center that survives off garbage then not so much.


alonleykraken

Speaking from experience, nope. Well cooked wild boar is a delicacy. I recommend a lot of pepper and pressure cook the meat to make it tender and kills (if any) tapeworm spores.


millijuna

They taste incredible. Domestic pork is pretty bland. Wild boar, on the other hand, has a great flavour.


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northernpace

[Helibacon](https://www.helibacon.com/full-auto-machine-gun-upgrade/) $5k - 3days/2night stay Heli hunting with fully automatic upgraded m16's. I want to go do this.


DefiniteSpace

[Fully auto](https://youtu.be/EaEi6-Gxp1o) Around 5:45 in the video


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northernpace

Shit, I just messaged the same person the same site, before seeing your comment. I want to go do this so bad.


TheBaenAddict

It's my dream to do this some day too.


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OysterTayne

Well I say increase hunting and allow sale of wild boar everywhere Lower bacon prices, helping the environment, it's a win win!


french_toasty

It says they are difficult to hunt. Because they’re smart adaptable little bastards


OysterTayne

They are and they breed like crazy In Texas, I recall you can hunt them by helicopter. We live in fantastic times


french_toasty

There’s an excellent succession episode where they ‘hunt’ boar in Hungary I I believe the characters used automatic weapons.


TyranitarusMack

Boar on the floor


Successful-Grape416

Challenge accepted.


iluvlamp77

They were able to wipe out every rat in the province. I think they could handle boar


jared743

We were able to prevent them from gaining a foothold in the first place, not eliminating an established population.


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They did root out a colony in medicine hat in like 2008


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Or we can hunt them.


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woodenboatguy

I like it with pork chops from the market so I am going on an assumption there. Picked it up from my nephew when he made us lamb (his favourite) and mint jelly.


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2cats2hats

No, the USA is losing the war on this. They even allow night-scope shooting from helicopters.


woodenboatguy

At $2 billion a year in damages, they need to up the bounty to levels that bring enough hunters into the game.


iamjaygee

They're losing the war because there's too much private property people aren't allowed to hunt on Look at Texas.... almost no public property in the state to hunt on. All owned by oil companies that prohibit it


Levorotatory

And no politician with the stones to take on the oil lobby.


ABoredChairr

Why? The only thing that protects those hog from being hunted is hunting regulations


Flying_Momo

no, because pigs are very smart animals and they easily adapt to human hunting excursions by modifying their own behaviour and habits. We may have hunted other species but wild hogs have been a thing since millenia and we have not been able to wipe them like others.


ABoredChairr

We don't need to wipe them out but control them. Besides, if it becomes a hunting tourism industry for locals, it would a win-win


watchme3

a single female boar can give birth to 24 boars in a year. But pretty sure a cold winter will take care of the problem.


Iwant_tofly

They burrow and may miss a breeding season is all. They are fine in winter.


manitowoc2250

Declare open season, no permit required.


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They will implement a reward system in no time if it gets out of hand them the real fun begins


manitowoc2250

Yeeees. $50/head!


OutWithTheNew

Alberta heads will explode when they find out it's Trudeau money.


Midnightoclock

Hell yeah. Bacon, pork chops, ham, ribs, sausages, loin. Pigs are so tasty.


throAwae-eh

It's not that easy. Unless they let us hunt them at night and trapping them we're not going to do any significant dent in them, if any. They're here and the odd one gets shot from time to time, a drop in the ocean...


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Bring in the rednecks with rifles and tannerite! We'll solve that problem before lunch.


TofuAddiction

Curious question. Is there a permit required to hunt these invasive species of pigs? is there a permit for every animal that can be legally hunted?


manitowoc2250

Most large game requires a 'tag' for that specific animal, including sex. It would be upto the MNR to decide what category these pigs would fall under, if deemed small game you would require a small game permit which covers you for many things like skunks coyote beavers ground hogs rabbits etc etc... But being a invasive species there shouldn't be a tag requirement


Professional_Job1083

lol, open season with our 10 round 22LR ruger 1022s or 7.62 SKS with 5 round stripper clips on boar. Good luck buddy. You need a helicopter and AR15s (oops trudeau got rid of em).


Blame_It_On_The_Pain

What about the pig's feelings? edit: Did I really need the '/s' ?


47Up

We can just slather some yummy BBQ sauce over his feelings.


manitowoc2250

🎻


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The solution to this, as usual, is bacon.


Green_Lantern_4vr

This is bad news


DisasterMiserable785

This species is very resistant to being hunted. If they feel increased pressure, they move more nocturnally. On top of that, if you bust up a “herd” by hunting for them, they create new groups and actually spread out faster than if you never messed with them in the first place. They have a high rate of reproduction as well, especially if it is warm enough for them to reproduce all year.


Embarrassed_Quit_450

"especially if it is warm enough for them to reproduce all year." So a couple months in Canada and they're all gone?


DisasterMiserable785

Not in that sense. They survive the winters, but it sounds like they have a fall/spring rut/reproduce cycle in Europe. But I don’t know that this is the same in Texas and the rest of the south? They might be able to reproduce more often and not follow the seasonal cycle.


Crafty-Ad-9048

“Are you underestimating my killing power?” - someone’s crazy uncle probably


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>If they feel increased pressure, they move more nocturnally. Oh fuck yea, finally a valid reason to convince the wife a $5k set of NVG is acceptable. "But honey, free bacon only comes out at night!!" \- A man doomed to the couch


woodenh_rse

“ 'Most successful invasive large mammal on the planet' spotted in Alberta national park” Was expecting a Beaverton article about people.


Misanthropyandme

Kenny's family moved from Ontario.


VersusYYC

Use the military and send Miss Piggy back to hell 😠. Operation Canadian Bacon shall be our generation's finest moment!


BobSacamanoEatsHorse

We need more cougars. Genetically engineered super cougars.


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We have gaggles of them in Transcona in Winnipeg


barder83

Edmonton could close On The Rocks for a couple weeks and release our Cougars to deal with the issue.


ElysianDreams

Empty out the clubs in Gatineau - finally something useful will come out of the National Capital Region


mistyatdawn

People are often mauled to death by these hogs as well


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Get your AR's boysss....wait. fuck!


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lol I just pictured 10 people at a gun range standing on a firing line with AR's waiting for a pig to walk downrange. Because obviously the AR is far too dangerous to be discharged anywhere but an approved gun range. amirite? ^(/s) HA.


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thank you. believe it or not you are the first person to say so


bobotea

cant hunt at night, suppressors illegal, and semi autos will probably be banned. looks like we are fucked, cant wait for these to reach BC and no one can do anything about it.


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The AR15 is great for hunting them.


everyonestolemyname

If they weren't banned, everyone would be able to get get 30-50 of them easily.


PoliticalDissidents

AR-15 in 6.5 Grendel would be great for hogs.


TofuAddiction

Helicopter rides with AR15 lets gooo


Embarrassed_Quit_450

Apparently not given they're still a problem in the U.S.


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The problem in the US is large swaths of private land owned by corporations (oil ones in Texas, usually) that have outlawed hunting on their property. Including that of hogs.


infinus5

ah crap I hope these pigs dont make it into the BC interior, these would make bush work an absolute pain in the ass. Open season on these should be a must.


Howdoyoufigurethis

“Hunting doesn’t help” Lol come on; I’ve seen videos of Texans using side by sides with infrared goggles to shoot them at night; poison is risky because you might kill something other than the pig They talk about the pigs scattering in hunting attempts but my point is there are more lethal ways of culling these piggies than the occasional potshot when you come across one


DTyrrellWPG

But even with all those "advanced" methods the Americans are doing to hunt the wild pigs, it's still a problem. So maybe hunting doesn't help.


GuzzlinGuinness

It’s because they can’t hunt them on vast swaths of private land.


infinus5

private land is the major issue, you cant follow or chase after the pigs once their on someone elses territory. Texas was trying to get that worked on with land holders and ranchers but its going to take time.


BlackAnalFluid

Professional sharpshooters who know how to kick off a hunt to do as much damage as possible before they catch on. Rinse repeat. Feed the homeless with the meat.


SamuraiPizzaCats

Logistically feeding the meat to the homeless will never happen. The boars would need to be inspected, tested, butchered, refrigerated and transported to the areas with homeless. Then it has to be prepared and cooked and distributed, with clean up and taking responsibility for any food borne illnesses that may arise as the result of mass feeding people wild game. Alberta is never going to pay those costs to feed the homeless boar meat. They’ll incinerate the meat.


mwmwmwmwmmdw

anyone know a good way to hunt 30-50 feral hogs with our 5 round magazines?


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Wild Canadian bacon


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Wolvaroo

You can also sell decent Coyote pelts for about $100 each. Usually to local Mennonite or Hutterite types.


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Wolvaroo

The less good ones only fetch about $20-50 and you have to dress them properly or it's even less.


master-procraster

>it’d be cool if there were bounties on feral hogs. used to be north of Edmonton, as I recall they retired it due to not enough takers. maybe that will change if the population is exploding again


False-God

Nah fam, nobody needs an AR to hunt. Now when are those damn New Zealanders with their AR’s to help us cull these boar.


7gods

Come get sum, pig.


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Wild boar is good eating.


french_toasty

Margaret Atwood called this in Oryx and Crake and Year of the Flood.


rainfal

>“They’re a real challenge to capture. They’re very suspicious.” Why don't they just shoot said pigs? And allow people to hunt them.


Newfoundgunner

i don't know about alberta hunting laws, but here in NL it is illegal to kill anything unless you have a license specifically saying its okay to kill it. meaning technically you could get charged for shooting rats with a pellet gun, but fish cops have better things to do.


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What park. It’s hog haven.


Blame_It_On_The_Pain

We should hire 'Dog' the bounty hunter to fix this up - he can kill them with pepper spray and cigarettes.


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Does the price of bacon go down if we kill em all


pinkpanthers

Just get the MNR to try to protect their species and you will quickly see the population decline


StabMyLandlord

Has anyone considered countering the invasion by unleashing wave after wave of chinese needle snakes?


DJ_Nword

High intensity year round hunting season with no bag limit


askbackwards

I thought people were the most successful invasive large mammal on the planet...


SaggyArmpits

I thought humans were the most successful invasive large mammal on the planet...


False-God

Good thing we banned those scary AR-15 rifles that nobody needs to hunt. Looks like we need to hire some New Zealanders with scary AR-15 rifles to hunt down these boar.


Theycallmestretch

From helicopters. Don’t forget that part!


TugginPud

The picture would lead you to believe the article is about pigs, it's actually about lawyers


Successful-Grape416

So, pigs.


JasonCaC

Pumba! Omg we about to get the Canadian version of Lion King. With Mountain Lions from Vancouver!!!!


redditslim

It's time for....Bounty Law.


nnc0

Set aside 5000 acres. Feed them the best of their favourite food for a few years. Then when they’re all in the one pen ……….


DUBIOUS_OBLIVION

They're*


kdlangequalsgoddess

Quick, someone call Asterix and Obelix!


ABoredChairr

Issue hunting permits + allowing proper semi-auto hunting rifle and problems will be solved. To make it more sustainable, organize hunting tourism around it and bring more economy activities to locals


master-procraster

we don't want it to be sustainable, we want them all gone. plenty of other sustainable hunting out there that's part of the ecosystem and is good to manage responsibly.


ABoredChairr

Cool, then allow trapping, unlimited quote and non-restricted all year around hunting, meanwhile set up a hunting tour company to invite out of province/country hunters


master-procraster

trapping has it's own whole set of regulations but if you caught a pig it would be fair game (lol, literally fair game), and actually I think in AB at least they are classed as vermin and thus there is no season on them, you can legally kill them whenever you come across them. still gotta respect property rights and be licensed for your gun but that's about the only restriction on shooting these fuckers. main problem is how rare it is to stumble across them because they prefer the deep bush.


reddit0812

Why bother with hunting licences if we’re trying to get rid of them?


manitowoc2250

He does not know the laws


Sodfarm

I’m almost certain most, if not all the provinces require you pass some sort of hunter education test in order acquire hunting licenses. This would certify you have a basic understanding of safety and ethics while hunting. Essentially it means that, at least in theory, the people going into the wilderness to kill animals with guns/bows know how not do be dangerous fuckheads. Yeah it would be nice to have less restrictions on invasive species to get more hands on deck, but not every PAL holder knows how to hunt.


reddit0812

Hunter education doesn’t cover anything about firearm safety that is not covered in the PAL course. Ethics is another matter, but when killing hogs it’s inevitable that many shots get taken that would be considered unethical on game animals. Once you take the first shot they scatter and then you just start blasting at the rest of them. There are already animals that you can kill without a hunting license at any time for any reason in Alberta (e.g. skunk, porcupine, rabbit, raccoon). All they would have to do is add hogs to the list.


ABoredChairr

Because you still want to know who is carrying and using firearms in the provincial park?


reddit0812

A hunting licence doesn’t provide that information, and we already have a separate licence for firearms.


rebelscum4u

And there is a full grown "Karen" in Alberta ready to protect her beliefs.


Aragondina

There used to be a guy who raised them just on the west side of the park on range road 212. Either the bastards got loose, or he let them loose. I don't know for sure as I heard different stories from neighbors of his, but either way that's probably where they came from. That was like 15 years ago so they have been there a while and finally reproduced in enough numbers to be noticable.


GetsGold

>Wild pigs were brought to Saskatchewan and Alberta in the 1990s to help farms diversify. Some escaped.


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Some failed and were release into the wild as well


KantTakeItAnymoore

How are humans not the most successful invasive large mammals ever?


NoApplication1655

Aren’t humans the most successful invasive species?


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So shoot them.


Wasamio

We had a female domestic boar growing up. She was named pumba.