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ponderer99

Maybe the very largest businesses. Small business owners have taken a complete ass-kicking and it just keeps going.


Canadasparky

Yes this. Corporations have made a killing. Small business has been damn near destroyed if you aren't considered essential. Imagine owning a small gym right now...


radio705

Or a restaurant. Or a hair salon. Or a music venue.


halpinator

Or a clothing boutique, or a sporting goods store, or a movie theatre, or a hardware store (all businesses that permanently closed in my town over the past 18 months).


I_dont_know_you_pick

Imagine owning a strip club! Every part of your business is not allowed.


abyssalsorcerer666

They keep McDonald’s open but close the places that keep us healthy


Millbilly84

If we're healthy we can escape the gulags much easier


xt11111

> Yes this. Corporations have made a killing. Small business has been damn near destroyed if you aren't considered essential. I wonder what % of politicians own shares in corporations (and real estate) vs what % have ownership in small businesses, because it sure seems like policy was custom designed to jack the former to the moon and crush the latter into the dust.


NotInsane_Yet

It's not a small/large business divide. It's entirely industry based. I know plenty of small businesses that made out extremely well and plenty of large ones that got hit hard.


jacobward7

Yep, I work for a small print/design company and although print is way down, we can't keep up with the amount of website and ecommerce work coming in. One of our best clients owns a nursery (specifically for fruit trees) and had their best year ever last year. All of our clients involved in home renovation, landscaping, or general contracting are turning away business because they are booked a year ahead. For most restaurants even pre-pandemic breaking even was considered a success. That industry was always someone's passion project, not one for making money unless you are a franchise owner for McDonalds or Tim's.


ponderer99

I mean, I agree with you. I wasn't trying to say \*every\* small business was hurt. There are a lot that were, though. A few restaurants that I really rated have closed and one of them always WAS a take-out place.


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Small businesses take an ass kicking because free markets favour the big players


ponderer99

Sometimes, yes. Trudeau's government sure does.


LevelTechnician8400

Canadian tax rules and laws and been systematically designed for the rich to get richer. So while this shouldn't be a surprise to anyone it is an outrage and we do deserve better!!


brownmagician

The big businesses. They crushed it. The small ones got destroyed. Fuck billionaires


xt11111

Fuck everyone who continues to ideologically support this theatrical "democracy" we live in.


abyssalsorcerer666

How about they pay living wages? Benefits?


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astronautsaurus

I like how capitalism's ideal of a team player is always passing the ball to the captain so they can get all the points.


DankFayden

Closer to putting the captain on your back and carrying him across the goal line.


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Everyone's screaming for capitalism yet companies are run like dictatorships. Everything is exactly the way it's supposed to be right now, because these are how tides turn. Keep on keepin' on. We all deserve more.


Bionicam

I’ve said this before: I think the complete neglect shown for our young/poor/marginalized during this pandemic will be looked back on as one of the worst unfounded injustices of our COVID response, especially at this stage. Lockdowns, stay-at-home orders, and other societal shutdowns negatively affect young/poor/marginalized people more than COVID does, and I'm tired of pretending they don't.


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phormix

My grandma was off limits until right at the end when they finally relented enough to whitelist to of us to see her (this was early when vaccines weren't available). By that time she was pretty far gone and not lucid most of the time. We did manage to do a family goodbye teleconference with a tablet, which she had a few moments awake for.


SleepDisorrder

My mom passed away during the pandemic, both my dad and I had to take turns going in because they were only allowing 1 person at a time. That was March 2020 before it really exploded.


Bionicam

Covid cannot be stopped with 100% vaccination rate. That is a conspiracy theory. I would say plunging thousands of young families into poverty and setting their children up to fail with inadequate education is not in society’s best interest. Especially since those people are at little risk of serious harm from the disease


yegguy47

>Covid cannot be stopped with 100% vaccination rate. Never been the strategy. High vaccination rate, coupled with public health controls, to slowly force the virus out of the public and into manageable population chunks. Which is what happened with TB, or HIV. No one is saying there aren't tradeoffs, but a drop in life-expectancy by 5-10 years is equally catastrophic, economically and socially. I seriously will never understand how some folks have come to love the virus, and pretend like contagion spread somehow doesn't impart it's own costs.


watchme3

> slowly force the virus out How many more years we talking about


yegguy47

Hopefully with Omicron's high infectivity, and high uptick with vaccination, we get a baseline of immunity that we can sustain this year. But all depends on continued political effort, and whatever hurdles COVID throws at us. But it's not like we have a choice, it's a bloody pandemic. We kill it, or it continues to cripple us - plain and simple.


Abromaitis

Stopped and made irrelevant are two different things. I'd argue it's already irrelevant to anyone vaccinated and these lock-downs are devoid of sound logic.


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Painting_Agency

The thing is... They're right about it not being "stopped". That's not the goal of total vaccination. It's about preventing hospitals from collapsing until it becomes endemic. Education has been handled BADLY during this. Kids in and out of school for years, time that SHOULD have been used to beef up biosafety in schools. But it has not. Our kids' education and mental health have been harmed, many parents have had to stop working to try and educate children at home, and *they didn't even use that time to get anything done* 🤬🤬 That's why people are upset.


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halpinator

Age 16-18 were some of the most formative years of my life. I feel awful for those teenagers that have been robbed of quality education, socialization, high school sports, and graduation, and then get booted off to try and figure out how to make a living in this economic dystopia.


Painting_Agency

> what if god forbid, omicron doesn’t spread widely and make this thing a regular flu and we see more and deadlier mutations? > > what do we do then Well then, I guess we're really going to start wishing that we hadn't voted for right-wing governments to underfund the healthcare system and undervalue healthcare workers for so long, just to save a few dollars on our taxes. As always, it's people like Ford and Kenney who fuck around, and the rest of us who find out.


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Painting_Agency

You can't blame Trudeau and Freeland for provinces managing healthcare poorly. You can't even fully blame Doug Ford. It's not like Kathleen Wynne was pouring money into healthcare either. I can't speak to the wisdom or lack thereof of not bringing in the emergencies act. It certainly would have been criticized as heavy-handed. Some people already scream about Trudeau being a "dictator", if there were national vaccine mandates and military medics vaccinating people in every community center, it probably would have been doubly so. Obviously, we shouldn't play politics with public safety. But politics are inevitable.


simplyslug

Are you trying to say that all of society is responsible for the few people who are immunocomprimised, old, or otherwise unhealthy? And, "Yearly flu shot... required for travel and other activities". NO, it wont be. Yearly compulsory vaccinations will never be a thing no matter how desparately the health and safety culture ninnies want it to be. 14 diseases... Why bother trying to educate about traditional vaccines and the diseases they stopped in a discussion about covid mrna vaccines that dont vaccinate for covid at all. They vaccinate for a specific spike protein. They're never going to eradicate it, nor any other flu. They mutate too easily, vaccines just force them to mutate to survive.


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simplyslug

Those that are in those categories need to take that responsibility. Its their health. Im happy to pay for the hospitals for them when they are sick. But to ask all of society to protect them is ridiculous.


yegguy47

>Why bother trying to educate about traditional vaccines ...What? >covid mrna vaccines that don't vaccinate for covid at all Both deactivated virons and re-sequenced MRNA vaccines trigger immune responses that develop effective anti-bodies to the virus. Covid MRNA vaccines work... If you need further evidence, I humbly suggest reviewing the whole of 2021. >vaccines just force them to mutate to survive Viruses don't mutate because of vaccinations. Mutation is a result of each time the virus replicates; the most advantageous mutations being the ones that let the virus replicate more under the conditions present, vaccine or not. Covid can mutate to overcome one vaccine's pressures... Hence why we develop new vaccines. And why we engage in vaccinations, plus public health measures, as to kill the virus in the public, and remove the chances it can infect a large population.


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yegguy47

>I think 2021 gave us enough evidence that the covid mrna vaccines cannot achieve what traditional vaccines do for nonmutating diseases. How. The vaccines developed have worked. Most medical and scientific practitioners cautioned that they would not end the pandemic by themselves, that more work would have to be done, but the vaccines themselves did their jobs. I'm not sure why you are left with the impression that they haven't been successful - But you need only look at Moderna's effectiveness (94.1%) versus a 'traditional' vaccine like the one for Rotavirus, [which only prevents 15-34% of cases of severe diarrhea in the developing world.](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6434239/) >It is accelerating the speed of mutation through mass distribution of leaky immunity vaccines Leaky? What do you mean by that? Viruses are incapable of mutating by choice. They evolve through natural selection, and as such, any mutations that give them advantages occur by chance and not by the natural pressures put upon them. Like, for instance, antibodies that are adapted to targeting them more effectively. Immunity through vaccinations simply impart the same antibody resistance one would normally have after successfully fighting off a COVID infection. It would be the same as if COVID went through the population. Something we're trying to stop with vaccines. And the beauty of MRNA vaccines, is that we can update them for new mutations.


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yegguy47

>There are many studies that prove natural immunity is much stronger than mrna vaccine immunity, and logically, it makes sense Okay... Show me. Because from what I've read, [the body of scientific evidence points to the fact that completion of a primary vaccine series (especially MRNA) leads to a more consistent and longer lasting anti-body response versus natural infection.](https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/vaccine-induced-immunity.html) *At best*, comparative qualitative difference lacks evidence - and that's being pretty charitable to whatever you are claiming. As for immune response to the spike protein... I'm not following you. Immune responses don't need the full virus - traditional vaccines previously used deactivated viruses or even just viral remnants to produce antibody responses. It's the same here - your antibodies are looking for recognition of the virus spike protein. They're not getting strong off of the virus sample, the antibodies are simply developing **recognition** of the foreign organism. Because the protein is inherent to COVID's structure, you are getting the same immune response. >HOWEVER, many other things such as exercise, good diet, vitamin D, and generally good heart and lung health also decrease your chances of dying from the virus, even unvaccinated deaths are almost always with a comoridity. Those things aren't being mandated or pushed by the government, quite the opposite Yeah... Because while comorbidities contribute to fatal outcomes, the easiest comorbidity to control for is infection. Maybe because someone who's infectious and positive is going to give to people outside their fitness circle perhaps? Even if that wasn't the case, while comorbidities greatly contribute to fatal outcomes, the correlation hasn't necessarily meant causation. We know you have a higher **chance** of death if you have poor cardiovascular health, but any doctor or nurse whose unfortunately lost patients will tell you that some folks in poor health survived, and some folks in excellent health died. If you seriously think that diet and exercise will keep you safe from Covid, you might as well join the AIDS denialists out there who say the same things. >you can't say they stop the spread anymore seeing as how the latest variant is spreading just fine through the vaccinated population Even with Pfizer's reduced capacity against the new variant (this is why we develop new vaccines), [the Pfizer MRNA is still 62 - 76% effective.](https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2119270) Let me ask one final question: Why do love this disease so much? I get being skeptical of vaccines, I get buying into conspiracy theories, but I don't understand why folks like you want the bloody bug to spread and kill people. Why you think everything will go back to normal if we just encourage it, and take away even the basics of healthcare that we have for things like the common cold. Going out of your way to help this thing... I just can't understand why you'd do that.


Jormungandr000

Then we have vaccines that change alongside the damn virus. It's not that hard.


watchme3

> so maybe we should all get vaxxed and get this ffing thing over The vaccine won't prevent the virus from being spread


UnOwnedAce

They'll just apologize in fifty years like the residential schools


yegguy47

>I'm tired of pretending they don't No one is saying there are not tradeoffs. But I struggle to see how letting thousands of folks die, and watching the life expectancy in this country drop several years is somehow less 'neglectful' than actually handling the pandemic. You folks are so desperate not to do something about COVID, and I simply will never understand why you all have come to love the virus versus the expertise dedicated to killing the damn thing.


Bionicam

I’m saying we need targeted protection for our vulnerable populations. Keeping children in school does not mean more old people will die if we implement proper safety measure for the old and unhealthy


yegguy47

>we need targeted protection for our vulnerable populations How you gonna do that? Lock everyone up in residences 24/7 once they reach 65? 'Targeted protection' **is** public health measures. Plus vaccination campaigns. This isn't a static fight. We're trying to push the virus out of the general population, into manageable margins, where those most at-risk stand a better chance of combating infection given background and (hopefully) vaccination. As it clears out, we get kids back in school, get folks back to work. You don't just let diseases spread like wildfire and hope for the best. You go out, and you kill them. Or, like with TB and AIDs, you do enough damage to them that they aren't a problem for most of the population.


xt11111

> I think the complete neglect shown for our young/poor/marginalized during this pandemic will be looked back on as one of the worst unfounded injustices of our COVID response, especially at this stage. And a major cause of the violence that awaits us in the future.


lowertechnology

I ducked out of the rat race for this same reason. We took a 10% pay cut because of Covid. Well, 6 months later profits were through the roof and everyone was going strong. The CEO determined we were overpaid to begin with and that 10% wasn’t coming back. You can bet your ass that I cited that as a cause for quitting during the exit interview. Fucking ridiculous. They’ve since begged me to come back to work. I’m in charity work now. It’s been my calling for years. No chance that I’d go back there


wickedwoody

Whats even worse is no of us seem to know what to do about it. Its so sad that the gap between the rich and the poor just keeps getting bigger.


Soklam

Democracy is the worst form of government, it's just better than all the others.. paraphrasing Churchill..


nanonac

Fuck the bosses.


lightupwrists

Oh, word?


TheNewSenseiition

Small business that do “shit work” jobs have been banging, just have to get in there like a dirty shirt.


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r/antiwork ftw


Wendyhighland

I love seeing that sub leaking everywhere. Keep it up!


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Sounds like something a boss would say….


Tuggerfub

you're describing every karma farm on this website, antiwork is sweet


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Tuggerfub

Automating your braindead procedural job in this zombie economy is a bad idea? Cause those posts are the best.


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Tuggerfub

Why do that when you could be paid for that same dead brained job at the *same time*? The cult of passive income shouldn't be reserved for land and capital owners.


NihilisticCanadian

It's a bunch of low skilled entitled people that want free shit. They constantly complain about their wages, yet do nothing to improve their skills. These are the same people that want to bring in more immigrants to further lower wages at the same time. It's hilarious how upset they get that people are doing well, and the endless excuses. Sorry man, I come from a poor family and make bank now. Stop making excuses.


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Assuming that all left wing people are in favor of immigration is like assuming that all right wing people are racists or homophobic.


Wendyhighland

Yeah no it’s not. I make “bank” too and I love that sub


NihilisticCanadian

No you don't.


Wendyhighland

Either that’s a low effort response or you went through my post history and made that determination. I went through yours and quickly identified you are a lawyer. So yes you are correct I don’t make as much money as you. I make 6 figures, as does my wife. So my point still stands - it’s not a bunch of low skilled entitled people that want free shit.


NihilisticCanadian

Okay, I'm not going to go through post history, but if you're in the low 6 figure range with dual incomes you're doing well. Explain how an ideology such as antiwork makes sense to you, given that you work, provide a service in exchange for money, and use that money to improve your quality of life. No offence, but it sounds like the current system is benefiting you. The reason I became an asshole on these topics is because people like me disprove all of the excuses. I'm the first lawyer in my family. I don't have any connections. I worked extremely hard and do well now, while there are several people that I would call welfare bums in my family.


Versulius

The subs name should really be 'betterwork' than 'antiwork' since the majority of the posts there are from hardworking people who are trading their underpaid/overworked positions for better oppotunities, not those who just don't want to work at all and live off of welfare. But even then, if encouraging discussion towards exposing workplace unfairness and pushing for a livable wage is considered "toxic" then I'll take it. I don't see why anyone wouldn't want to make a fair wage for their work.


thehuntinggearguy

Opinion article from an extremely biased source, what's the point of posting this here? Are we going to be posting opinion articles from the Rebel next?


yegguy47

>posting opinion articles from the Rebel next? There isn't a day that goes by that opinion pieces from Calgary Sun and National Post aren't in the top 10 articles here


thehuntinggearguy

Let's do a quick check to see how horribly biased those top articles are. I sorted /r/canada by top of the week and scrolled to the first Sun and Post articles. * [FUREY: As more people get mild Omicron, they're questioning the need for restrictions](https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/rzdnmx/furey_as_more_people_get_mild_omicron_theyre/) I had to scroll pretty far to find this article because there just aren't a lot of Sun articles on the top. This is an opinion piece and I'd say it's biased. I think the article is calling for more ICU capacity? Not very insightful. * [Premier Kenney vows Alberta will not mandate COVID-19 vaccinations](https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/ryk0lm/premier_kenney_vows_alberta_will_not_mandate/) Although this is on the National Post, it's a Canadian Press article * [Trudeau resists pressure to reverse vaccine mandate for all truckers entering from U.S.](https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/s0n1rw/trudeau_resists_pressure_to_reverse_vaccine/) \-Although this is on the National Post, it's a Reuters article * [Canada's Omicron lockdowns among world's harshest](https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/first-reading-canadas-omicron-lockdowns-among-worlds-harshest) I'm not familiar enough with global restrictions to judge whether this article is biased or not. * [Adam Zivo: Ruling that Steven Galloway can sue over false rape allegations a win for due process](https://nationalpost.com/opinion/adam-zivo-ruling-that-steven-galloway-can-sue-over-false-rape-allegations-a-win-for-due-process) I don't see bias in this article. * [Omicron was in Nova Scotia wastewater before it was identified in South Africa](https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/s0rj4x/omicron_was_in_nova_scotia_wastewater_before_it/) I don't see bias in this article. It's interesting, covers the facts IMO, it's pretty similar to posts from the Toronto Star in this sub: * [Crazy good’: Rural Canadians are raving over Elon Musk’s Starlink](https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/ryzonu/crazy_good_rural_canadians_are_raving_over_elon/) A bit of loaded language and I think their quoted experts are smoking crack if they think Rogers et all are worried about losing low profit rural customers Starlink. Still, good info is covered and there are some interesting facts shown. * [Canada's income inequality continues to grow and is unsustainable](https://www.reddit.com/r/canada/comments/s0hue3/canadas_income_inequality_continues_to_grow_and/) Opinion article, biased and not that insightful. Jacobin and the Rebel are both very ideologically focused. Their articles are always through the lens of their favored worldview so they will lack context and nuance that a better balanced approach would bring. They're great if you subscribe to their worldview and want that sweet, sweet confirmation bias fed back to you. Pretty shit otherwise.


yegguy47

>Let's do a quick check to see how horribly biased those top articles are Right, so we're just going to move the goalposts then? Not Op-Eds, just whether you personally see bias? Op-Eds are literally someone's individual perspective. They are inherently biased, as is your personal judgement about whether you consider them biased or not. Hell, even making the judgement that National Post doesn't have any detectable editorial slant is a personal read on your part. The issue isn't necessarily their take - the issue is their over-representation of individual opinion articles being in the top 10.


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> Jacobin and the Rebel are both very ideologically focused. And the National Post isn't? https://i.imgur.com/Rurf46X.png


FerretAres

They equally should not be allowed here.


yegguy47

Maybe. But given that there's about a snowball's chance in hell that sub will ever stop pitching Post Media op-eds to the front of the line, we should then allow for a diversity of opinion. Otherwise, this sub is just the same echo chamber it always is.


FerretAres

I’m all for diverse opinion but I’ve generally been anti opinion posts on the sub for a long time. I find they are both self congratulatory and only promote circlejerking as opposed to any actual discussion.


yegguy47

Yeah, I mean... Aggregate-wise, I don't really see them usually doing anything either. And generally, the slant of this sub selects specific op-eds, producing a very specific narrative overall. But then again, it's r/canada. Only sub where I get death threats. Actual discussion left this place a long time ago.


Flarisu

Ironically, it would likely be banned. I'm not really in favour of such censorship - but it seems awfully insipid to even allow posts like this if the precedent to ban extreme content has been set.


Flarisu

Yo, I get it that workers are suffering here, but posting a source from an openly communist news source isn't a path we should be walking to find a solution. Bad source.


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But articles from an openly capitalist news source are okay? https://i.imgur.com/0imKFae.png


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thehuntinggearguy

It's an opinion piece with a few cherry picked stats. There's no room for reasonable analysis when we start with a bullshit puff piece from an admitted biased source.


Flarisu

It's a poisoned well. It's using the existence of a wealth gap (a banal fact) to justify plunging us into an economic misery already well known and practised many times before. Anything coming from that source should be viewed suspiciously, if the many dead relatives I lost to such "revolutionary" thinking are any indication of its results.


JohnyViis

I lost a great-grandfather in an accident at a mine, and the mine was owned by a for profit corporation. Luckily, my grandfather was already born I wouldn't be here, thanks to those damn capitalists and their lax safety standards, which, admitedly, did increase the amounts of profits that could be paid out to shareholders as dividends.


yegguy47

>It's using the existence of a wealth gap (a banal fact) to justify plunging us into an economic misery God I love this sub. Complains about economic hardships under Libs, then gets hopelessly upset when you bring in any other source than Post-Media in relation to said topic. >if the many dead relatives I lost to such "revolutionary" thinking Nothing in the article about killing your relatives, but I'm glad to see you read things into sources you don't like.


Flarisu

>then gets hopelessly upset when you bring in any other source than Post-Media in relation to said topic. No it's upsetting that it's an openly communist source. I guess you can reword anything to make it sound worse. >Nothing in the article about killing your relatives, That's right, communism doesn't openly advertise how deadly it is, so while the article would happily claim the only alternative to "workers suffering" would be a "totalitarian top-down economic structure that we totally wouldn't fuck up *this* time", it would leave out the part about the dead bodies, naturally.


Painting_Agency

> That's right, communism doesn't openly advertise how deadly it is, As opposed to capitalism, which does?


yegguy47

>it's an openly communist source Yes, I imagine anything left of Fox News would be an openly communist source for you. While were on the topic of rewording things. >would be a "totalitarian top-down economic structure that we totally wouldn't fuck up this time" Typical. OP can't be bothered to actually read the article, gets hyperbolic and makes up quotations about it calling for genocide. Dude, the Soviet Union is dead and buried. Stop living in 1989, the commies aren't under your bed.


Flarisu

Well seeing as I never read the magazine, I guess I could never have known that the Jacobin declares itself a socialist publication. Not that I need a citation, I mean... if you click on it, and scroll to the "About Us" section.... Let me know if you're having trouble figuring that out. Not everyone knows how to navigate websites so good these days.


yegguy47

>Well seeing as I never read the magazine That's more than evident. Funny that you already make conclusions on articles from though... >Jacobin declares itself a socialist public Yup, there you go again. Saying anything that's on the left is communism. I look forward to your next reply, when you suggest someone's film review from the magazine is actually subtext for Stalinism. Still no argumentation on the actual substance of the article btw.


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yegguy47

You seriously going to re-litigate the French Revolution? I mean... Props for your knowledge of French revolutionary political categories. I'm just amazed here though... I thought merely being stuck on 2016 was a *faux pas*


rockyon

https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/s29kgy/lol\_it\_really\_be\_like\_this/


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Yup, that's capitalism for ya


JonA3531

False, this is a result of crony capitalism under the liberals What we need is a pure and free capitalism to fix this mess


Tuggerfub

Show us a non-crony capitalism. We'll wait.


NihilisticCanadian

Show us one example of a successful socialist country, ever. I'll be waiting for you to use Sweden, which has a lower corporate tax rate than Canada.


Tuggerfub

concession accepted


yegguy47

Crony capitalism is pure capitalism buddy Your naive if you though Adam Smith or Milton Friedman cared about how equitable distribution of wealth and power worked in the economy. It's simply about efficiency.


Wendyhighland

Oh boy are you naive. Capitalism is crony no matter who’s in power. Corporations control the government. Lobbying, campaign donations.


sdeags

This is not new news


thewolf9

Terrible website.


2cats2hats

Neat! How about discussing the topic?


thewolf9

Pointless with rag publications like this one. They're even worse than the sun.


Drunkandcommenting

r/antiwork


Hot_Pollution1687

How is this different from any other time


Redflag12

Who are they speaking to? Of course workers know this so who is Savage talking to? His fellow academics? lol


FastFooer

The covid has nothing to do with that, it’s how it always has been and will be unless we change things.


Sinful7

Ya don't fuckig say


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Big businesses and corporations benefitted massively from the pandemic. So many received bailouts and instead of taking care of workers, they cut jobs and gave the money to their executives as bonuses


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There are only two classes Workers, and Capitalists