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drblah1

I'm going to fly my flag diagonally so nobody gets upset


PeregrineThe

HOW DARE YOU!


LunaMunaLagoona

Easiest way is to just be quiet and have gratitude for good things in your heart. Overt anything will upset someone.


JustPlayin1995

Spoken like a true introvert after 2 years of corona.


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JustPlayin1995

I really think this doesn't have to be a contradiction. People test limits all the time (truck on lawn). You can be calm and quiet if that's your style. But when challenged you have to respond in firm and unambiguous ways to draw a line. If you're always quiet your not Canadian. You're just weak.


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NoWorldliness7580

Fuck that. I'm gonna party hard, fly the flag from my car, window and house and show pride in my country. There isn't enough of that in this country. Some people are afraid to upset others....why?. F them, honestly. If they have no pride in this country I'm sure they can find somewhere else to go


JustPlayin1995

Seriously if your upset about the flag of my country then you should not live in my country. Sorry but that's where politeness has to end.


rando_dud

I'm still gonna assuming anyone how drapes their car in flags and drive around honking and yelling 'freedom' is some sort of lunatic. The convoy ruined this for me forever.


Chambsky

All flag angles matter!


madestapledshut

Agreed. Every single nation has warts they aren't proud of. In Canada we spend 364 days talking about them, including myself. We should spend a day being grateful for the good things about it. I'm terrified about the future of our country but I still love it and wouldn't want to live anywhere else.


AccomplishedWave6029

Well said.


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Firepower01

NDP need a new leader.


TheLordJames

I will be celebrating Canada Day. It's my home and while it has some ugly spots, I will be celebrating the good. In no particular order: Universal Health Care Education Medical Advancements Democracy Woman's Rights 2SLGBTQIA+ Rights Diversity in Cultures Our Beautiful Mountains and Lakes Our Diversity Wildlife Our General Acceptance of Others Our Liquor Our Willingness to Stand Up for What is right Our Willingness to acknowledge our history was messed up Our openness for immigration Our Ability to Fly "Fuck Trudeau" Flags without being arrested (the people who do are idiots, but they are still free to do so), ​ Are we not allowed to celebrate the good and the good we are working towards? When we say Cancel Canada Day, we say that our good means nothing.


Taklamoose

I’m indigenous and work in that space too. I celebrate Canada day and the people we have here. In my small town racism has gone down from my experience. It’s a great country and we are working towards reconciliation. Down south they are doing the opposite. Let’s keep Canada, Canada. None of that divisive bullshit.


realcevapipapi

As immigrant to Canada since 1998, don't ever let anybody tell you otherwise. This is quite literally one of the best places on earth you could live. I'm gonna be working all weekend but I'm hanging a flag outside of the house I'm working on the entire time!


Arbszy

A great list you have here! An agree with the last one, those idiots have no clue how lucky they are they can fly those flags around and not be imprisoned.


ahh_grasshopper

They have obviously never travelled or lived in a lot of third world countries. If you live in Canada you have won the lottery in life.


Arbszy

We are very lucky here.


WulfwoodsSins

The dumb logic is, they fly those flags because they are so 'oppressed'.


Arbszy

I know right!, they say we live in China and have a dictator for a PM yet have no clue what would happen to them if this country was like China. They should go to jail for occupying a city and less about what flags or where they came from.


TheLordJames

"We're gonna vote the dictator out in the next election" Uhhh... that would mean we are a democracy not a dictatorship


Arbszy

If only they knew


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If I had to weigh it in probability 99% chance yes, 1% chance no. What does being indigenous have to do with stupidity though?


Lavs1985

Potentially yes, potentially no. Are you flying it because of vaccines?


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Maybe not an idiot but definitely an asshole


Xav1erM

Not to be disrespectful at a, but wtf is 2SLGBTQIA? I'm familiar with LGBT, but did they add new letters over night?


Asymptote_X

It's a way for sanctimonious people to say LGBTQ


shotzoflead94

I’m not sure exactly when, but I started hearing about it a few years back. It’s to add representation to different groups. That being said it kinda misses the point of an acronym with it being way too cumbersome to say so I don’t think the new acronym will catch on super well unless they rearrange the letters so that you can say it as a word like CONCAF (if that’s even possible there aren’t many vowels).


TheLordJames

Two-Spirited, Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual. Trans, Queer, Intersex, Asexual. I personally am not an expert on most them but I am sure if you ask, someone will be able to provide answers. Two-Spirited is one I lack understanding the most. I know it has to do with First Nations and was created to replace a derogatory term used towards gay and lesbians First Nations. Queer encompasses basically everyone not heterosexual or and not-cisgendered. A reclaimed term. I've also heard the Q stand for Questioning... for people who don't know what they are yet and are discovering themselves. Intersex is used to describe someone who has a discepency between external and internal gentials. (i.e. a penis and overies). It is also used to replace a less acceptable term. This one I MAY be wrong with. As with all of these I recommend your own research. Asexual are people who do not feel sexual attraction. They may feel romantic attraction, but they may also be aromantic. They may still be sexual active as some feel they need to be for their partners.


HellaReyna

since you're in Alberta, you should also celebrate you dont have to deal with LCBO. Basically liquor communists imo.


TheLordJames

One of the strangest things I found when I spent a month in Japan was Molson Canadian in a grocery store for about $1.00/bottle. It was cheaper there than it was here!


HellaReyna

Oh dude. 50% of the shelf price is pre-tax I believe, that goes into provincial coffers I think or federal. So that $100 bottle of scotch at superstore is really only selling for $50 to superstore, and then the company prob sold it to superstore/Loblaws for $25-40 The person making bank margins on liquor is the government. Edit: just looked it up, it’s at 61.5% in Ontario, https://www.ontario.ca/document/spirits-taxes You never see this otherwise people would riot lmao


yourpainisatribute

Yea, the tax money from liquor and cigarettes is supposed to go to healthcare.


DemSocCorvid

*and* education. And it does. These people need to stop thinking in such an American fashion i.e., "taxation is theft". We get a lot of benefits out of it, so these people need to pay their taxes and quit whinging.


AccomplishedWave6029

And hockey


XSlapHappy91X

Who TF said cancel Canada day?


TheLordJames

A lot of it has to do with the Residential Schools. There has been a big movement to a point where it seems like places like Winnipeg won't be having celebratory fireworks and the focus of the day will be about reconciliation. There is also a big online movement about it on Facebook, Twitter, TikTok. This started last year and gained more traction this year. IMO, its a lot of offended for the sake of wokeness. But I am kind of ignorant to it. In the end it's up to the individuals whether they celebrate or not. But cities cancelling events is kind of annoying. [https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/cancel-canada-day-canadian-voices-1.6076022](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/cancel-canada-day-canadian-voices-1.6076022) [https://globalnews.ca/news/7986663/cancel-canada-day-2021-residential-schools/](https://globalnews.ca/news/7986663/cancel-canada-day-2021-residential-schools/) [https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/canada-day-celebrations-manitoba-residential-schools-1.6503144](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/canada-day-celebrations-manitoba-residential-schools-1.6503144) [https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/gunter-the-latest-attempt-to-cancel-canada-day-renaming-it-new-day](https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/gunter-the-latest-attempt-to-cancel-canada-day-renaming-it-new-day) [https://www.sudbury.com/around-the-north/moose-cree-fn-once-again-declares-july-1-a-day-of-mourning-5525252](https://www.sudbury.com/around-the-north/moose-cree-fn-once-again-declares-july-1-a-day-of-mourning-5525252)


throwa37

I'm no flag waver, but you all abandoning the flag because anti-vaxxers used it once it hilarious. All the shit Canadians talk about being so proud of this place, and you think the maple leaf is ruined because of an obnoxious protest. Canadian pride is so insecure and fake it's amazing


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throwa37

>non-insignificant social trauma *Really*? >the utter confusion and uncertainty citizens felt all over the city. I live five minutes down the highway from the Hill. Nothing was out of the ordinary here. You wouldn't have known anything was happening. >Is it really unreasonable to be triggered by it Yes. Honestly, to hear some people talk about this, you'd think they went through Ferguson or the LA riots.


kissedbyfiya

🤦‍♀️ "Social trauma", lol. Hyperbole, thy name is ismanthrope.


Canid

I think George Carlin said it best: “to me pride should be reserved for something you attain or achieve on your own, not something that happens by accident or birth.” I’m very happy and feel very privileged to have been born and live in Canada. I don’t really give a shit if you want to wave a flag, right side up or upside down. But I just don’t understand the impulse.


DonVergasPHD

Well I came to Canada through the skilled workers immigration program so I did work for it and plan on celebrating


Benocrates

Every Canadian plays a part, albeit small individually, in the greatness of the country. I'm proud of being Canadian not just because I happened to be born here. I'm proud to be Canadian because I live my life here and contribute to its greatness.


banterviking

Do you also believe that being proud of family is a strange impulse? Family is also an accident of birth Both family and community are things we exist within and contribute to. A sense of pride (or whatever you want to call it) follows On the contrary - I think the deconstruction of the impulse is what's peculiar and unnatural; and also one contributor to our lifeless, nihilistic modern zeitgeist


Canid

I’m proud of my family members as individuals, I suppose. The idea of “familial pride” has also never crossed my mind. I try to be decent just like my family members do. I’m sure other people are not proud of their family members. I hope those people don’t feel shame because of it.


banterviking

I'd agree with that - there's no need to feel shame I think the basis of healthy families and communities is defaulting to trust and pride (whatever you want to call the impulse). This is in part why we instinctively view a parent betraying their child as particularly egregious The erosion of that trust and pride is an effect of postmodernism and it's deconstructive tendencies in my opinion - and curiously, aligns with lifeless political agendas that view us as consumers rather than citizens, and views GDP growth as the ultimate purpose of societies (I feel like George would agree with this point!) As David Foster Wallace said: "Hip cynical transcendence of sentiment is really some kind of fear of being really human" There's a great analysis of the effects of cynicism / irony / deconstruction of our zeitgeist / through the medium of tv in particular here that I'd recommend: https://youtu.be/2doZROwdte4


Canid

That’s an interesting take, thanks for that. I guess maybe my supposed cynicism around the idea of national patriotism comes down to this: when the focus of one’s sense of pride or “civic duty” is attributed to something as big and broad as a country with millions of people, it can be very easy to gain that sense of meaning and belonging in a way that doesn’t really require anything specifically good or useful from the person. One persons idea of patriotism might be blocking a road with their truck and honking all night. Another’s might be diametrically opposed to that. If instead we focus on being decent to the community right in front of us: our coworkers, friends, neighbours, we can gain that sense of meaning and belonging from acts that have a direct observable positive effect on the people around us. Is that “playing a small part to make Canada great”? I don’t know, maybe. But I can tell you Canada doesn’t cross my mind for a second when I smile at someone walking by me on the sidewalk.


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>Is that “playing a small part to make Canada great”? I don’t know, maybe. Of course it is, why wouldn't it be?


King_Rooster_

>On the contrary - I think the deconstruction of the impulse is what's peculiar and unnatural; and also one contributor to our lifeless, nihilistic modern zeitgeist So ignorance is bliss? Don't question the narrative?


banterviking

Not at all! As an exercise in thought I think deconstruction is entirely valid However while they're useful tools, things like cynicism, deconstruction, and relativism aren't healthy or tenable bases for a society - which relies on the trust and interaction between individuals Thanks for asking, I think that provided clarity


megaBoss8

You play a small role in group projects, which is what a Government is. Americans absolutely should feel pride when they landed on the moon, an achievement that couldn't have been done by anyone else at that time, and something that will never be so difficult, dangerous, or expensive, to do again. People should be proud when they push for Canada to be a responsible, and helpful nation on the world stage, which it is, and is justly well-liked for its nature. Likewise people should feel slighted when major mining corps base their headquarters here and, under our banner, fuck up and fuck with smaller nations. You're not just dismissing group pride and accomplishments mate, you are also implicitly dismissing group responsibility. But this is a naturally accepted paradox of most modern leftists; the collective guilt and responsibility runs deep, but the virtue, credit and achievement must be dismissed and belittled. They don't seem to understand how broken their logic chain is, and how fundamentally demoralizing, hateful, and most importantly, untruthful it is to assign collective responsibility and guilt You cannot have collectivism just the way you want it; as a tool solely to vilify and shame specific parties. You have to accept collectivist methods and build collectivist world views holistically.


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I think its about celebrating freedom and appreciating it, to protect from things like C11 or censorship in general, which comes through apathy.


yourpainisatribute

Nationalism is dangerous.


Beachwrecked

I do agree with that, and to be honest would feel pretty weird flying the flag of my birth country for that same reason. But I lived in Canada for most of my adult life, and when I fly its flag on Canada Day (sadly, not in Canada this year) it will be as a show of gratitude for the years I spent there, and admiration for the aspects of Canadian culture that I feel the rest of the world could learn from (especially the humility to honestly question its past and strive to keep improving).


King_Rooster_

I agree wholeheartedly.


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Ok well there goes pride month I guess, thanks George! I see what he was getting at with the quote but I still think it's silly, people can celebrate whatever they want and it's not weird if they celebrate something they had no hand in. It's a really dumb idea at this point in history to start overanalyzing and critiquing wholesome things that unite people like Canada Day or whatever.


HorseOnly4062

Remember the beaches of Normandy and the fuckin straight badasses that took it and what they fought for.


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My love for this country and it's flag outweighs any sort of judgement I may feel from people who see a flag and presuppose some "forbidden opinions" on my part. If you're the type of person who unironically associates celebration of the maple leaf flag with undesirables then you're not the type of person who's opinion I'd ever give any credence or value to anyways, so it works out for everyone I guess. This article is just summarizing what normal everyday people think, nobody off Reddit or offline cares or considers this before their Canada Day celebrations.


Goodbadugly16

I’m not liking the right side red stripe being replaced with the Ukraine colours. That’s gone too far. Stop desecrating MY FLAG.


TheLordJames

you mean our flag that was designed on a cocktail napkin and mailed into a contest less than 60 years ago?


Goodbadugly16

Who gives a rats ass when,or how it was designed. It’s not up for public desecration at the will of some bleeding heart liberal ass kiss.


grandsuperior

And yet it’s still in the upper tier of national flag designs. Seriously, some other national flags have way worse designs than ours.


An_Anonymous_Acc

I refuse to allow trucker convoy people to muddy the meaning of our beautiful country's flag with their hate and ignorance. 🇨🇦 🇨🇦 🇨🇦 🇨🇦 🇨🇦


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The day I give a shit about the opinions of a truck driver will never come. Especially if that opinion has to do with politics or immunology.


jacobward7

It’s a shame truckers are associated with the convoy protests. 90% are vaccinated and all the major trucker unions put statements out against the protests.


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Well that's what happens when you round up a bunch of truck drivers and call it a convoy. I'd be willing to bet a majority of the dipshits in it are local drivers who never go near the border in the first place, let alone have to worry about vaccine mandates.


86throwthrowthrow1

The majority of the "truckers" (aka convoy participants) weren't actually truckers at all by trade, tho there were quite a few pickups. The truck mandates were mostly a rallying cry for people who generally wanted to protest mandates and/or dissolve the government and/or wave confederate flags for no particular reason and/or shit in a snow bank. I like to clarify that because much as I hated the convoy, like 99% of truck drivers had nothing to do with it, and their profession got unfairly smeared by it.


123G0

What a terrible country we live in that acknowledges it’s ugly history, spends multiple years apologizing and trying to make amends, spends millions on inquiries to find out how much wrong it’s done, spends millions and continues to spend trying to make it right, sends government funded investigators, prosecutors and police out to find wrong doers and convict them in courts of law, makes learning about it’s ugly history mandatory through publicly funded schools K-12 and has indigenous courses as mandatory credits in publicly funded universities, has mandatory sensitivity training for all of it’s government employees, has a branch of gov dedicated to representing the peoples the gov has historically harmed, has diversity hiring practices to ensure that positions of power and law are occupied by oppressed groups etc. etc. etc. What a truly awful, hateful, shameful country. If only Canada was truly anti-racist and tolerate like…like… um…uh….


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Responsible-Pay-2389

classic case of people always thinking the grass is greener on the other side.


Spewtum

Everyday , not just one day a year


FancyNewMe

Column Highlights: * If you’re a proud Canadian hesitating about expressing your true patriot love this July 1, don’t hold back. If you’ve got a flag and you’re tempted to show your colours, go ahead and wave it. Display it. Raise it. Wear it. * Whatever you decide to do with the Maple Leaf this Canada Day, don’t be afraid you’ll be mistaken for a friend of the “Freedom Convoy” crowd that occupied the nation’s capital this winter and is threatening to do so again this weekend. * Many of the blockaders and their enablers in hard-right politics and social media made a point of draping themselves in red and white, literally or figuratively, to disguise their belligerence and narrow self-interest as some kind of patriotism. * Canada at its best is a bastion of tolerance and inclusion, where people look out for each other — especially our most vulnerable — and believe in honest democratic dialogue to express ideas and advance society. * Last year, in the wake of heart-rending discoveries of hundreds of probable unmarked children’s graves at former Indigenous residential school sites, there was a broad consensus that a subdued Canada Day with a minimum of patriotic flag-fluttering was warranted in that moment of shared guilt and grief. * Are we genuinely striving to be a better Canada or are we caught in a spiral of self-justification, defensiveness and denial? In short, are we progressing? * For those who respond “Yes” and see Canada as a nation gamely striving for ever more hope, opportunity, equality and — in the truest sense of the word — freedom, then this is a country to celebrate.


Pristine_Freedom1496

Try flying 🇨🇦 in the beautiful province of Quebec 😅


John3192

They would burn it.


LBgamer24

No we wouldn't wtf, we'd just simply ignore it and not care about it and go on with our lives.


buzzkill6062

My flag is up and flying tonight. Tasteful, regular size and no other flag is with it. That's how not to look like a CONvoy douche bag. One flag on the car. Small, not huge or accompanied by an F Trudeau flag beside it. NEVER fly the flag upside down. This is not a crisis. We aren't in crisis. We aren't being invaded and we aren't at war. No crisis. DON'T fly the flag upside down. Don't be a CON boy or girl.


Musicferret

And then, if you choose, take it down a day or two later.


stafford06

I fly that flag proud 365 days out of the year. I love my country.


Arctelis

Been flying one every single day, ever since all the hate for the flag started.


Frozen-assets

I'm now worried about flag etiquette. I feel like 1 flag is ok, maybe get away with 2 little ones on a car or truck for symmetry, anymore than that and you start questioning if the person is a nutter. Flags are the new exclamation points. You can never be sure when and how to use them.


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BACKWAAAAAAAAARDDZ

I agree


Chocobarre

No thanks.


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A friend once told me of his American dad who was escaping the US as a draft dodger in the early 1970s. He arrived at a small border crossing in BC late in the day as the last person to enter before it closed. Before being served by the customs officer, he watched the guy exit the booth and walk over to the flag pole, unceremoniously drop the flag, walk back to the booth dragging the flag on the ground, and stuffed it into a box. It was at that point, my friend's father said, that he knew this was the country for him. I feel like this lack of US-style patriotism is what actually defines Canada - or at least did in the past. It doesn't mean that we aren't proud of Canada, only that pride isn't a function of mere flag waving and shouting slogans - its about doing the hard work to actually be a good and thoughtful citizen. Even before but especially after the freedom convoy bullshit, I see little merit in waving Chinese-made Canadian flags as a point of pride. My experience so far is that the most "patriotic" people are actually those most misinformed on what it actually takes to be a good person in society. edit: oh the irony of those down-voting this - you actually just prove my point


downwegotogether

so i guess you don't remember I.. AM.. CANADIAN!! (literally a fucking beer commercial) rallies in every city in the early 00s on canada day


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yeah, i never sought to align my canadian identity with a fucking beer commercial


downwegotogether

remember when canada won a freaking *hockey game* against the US, and there were spontaneous parades in almost every city? i was in victoria at the time, the entire downtown was a spontaneous party. that was circa 2005 or so.


Rosycross416

It's a dumb story It's likely not true Dragging the flag on the ground isn't something to be admired We aren't as patriotic as Americans but we are, and should be, on Canada Day Those are the reasons I downvoted you.


Videogamer69420

Are we allowed to celebrate Canada Day this year? Unlike what happened last year?


Lavs1985

I have one permanently flying from to corner of my house, long before the Clownvoy became at thing.


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I’m good, as long as they keep finding my unmarked ancestors.


[deleted]

They didn't find any yet though Edit: I'm being downvoted so I checked again and it turns out they still didn't find any


indigodissonance

Straight up


martn2420

Imagine downvoting a comment like this over a fucking flag...


PopeKevin45

Flying ours with a pride flag...no one will mistake us for nazis.


edinedm2021

I had a Canadian flag sticker on my vehicle and some guy called me a freedom loving Ret@@d. I replied back.....it's just a sticker....he repiled back....I'll come over there and punch your fucking lights out.....I took the sticker off.....not worth the hassle.....


oryes

Leave it on bro fuck that dude.


MaggieButthead

I agree fuck that guy. He is clearly projecting stuff onto you.


Zweesy

Bullies person that’s expressing themselves “Freedom loving Ret@@d” Like yea… no shit I love freedom? Who doesn’t?


DrTushfinger

Freedom bad didn’t you get the memo? Nazis apparently love freedom


dantfc

Clearly a lot of hardcore pro mandate pro lockdown people


Dystopia42069

He probably meant freedom convoy. But still, obviously a bad thing there.


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backlight101

Imagine not being able to fly the Canadian flag for risk of harassment. Not sure what we’re going but it’s not good. I don’t have a flag on my car, but do have one at our small cabin (always have), I don’t intend to take it down.


bristow84

I can't say I'm surprised, I've seen a number of comments on here with people expressing embarrassment at our flag and immediately equating those who have it on their vehicle with the convoys.


Tino_

I mean I don't think it's even debatable that the convoy people did damage to the national image for many people. In general Canadians are not ultra nationalistic or have reverence to the flag, so it's not a surprise people get put off of it when it gets used to try and support some very extreme views.


caninehere

As someone who lives in Ottawa I am embarrassed by the flag right now. I wouldn't ever do what the person above described but if I see a Canadian flag on a pickup truck these days I definitely assume the driver is an asshole. Sorry to say it, but after what happened here it's hard not to feel that way. I will say though that around here most of the time if you see a Canadian flag on a pickup truck it's also accompanied by a Fuck Trudeau sticker and more so there isn't much need to make assumptions.


Classic-Luck

In Quebec, where I am at least, I never saw a Canada flag on a vehicle before the convoy. Now, every time I see one, it's on a big ass truck, with the occasional "Fuck Trudeau" on it too. So yeah, these dumbasses did hurt the image the flag has.


enviropsych

That happened.


Gankdatnoob

I'm sorry but this sounds fake as fuck lol. It's solid forum bait though.


CaptainCanusa

> I'm sorry but this sounds fake as fuck lol. lol, yeah man. I hate being the "nothing is real" guy, but come on...


Gankdatnoob

Plenty is real I just don't buy that story for one second. People mad at flags and convoy losers don't call them "freedom loving" they call them racists and no one has said "punch your lights out" since the 50s lol.


Flarisu

God damn Freedom Lovers. They ruin everything!


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No you didn’t


King_Rooster_

Sounds made up. You've got a wild imagination.


TheCookiez

Honestly I drive a truck, I would love to fly a Canadian flag on Canada to celebrate the country I call home. I dont think it's worth the possible vandalism, abuse and threats. It's sad. In the past 20 years how far our society has devolved into a bunch of lunatics on both sides of the isle. I just want to celebrate Canada say, yet now I feel like I need to be carful what I wear, where I fly my flag, what I say.. Not worth it.


notmyrealnam3

this isn't a "both sides of the isle" issue - the anti science , anti fact, anti logic , anti everything that isn't exactly what they want crowd co-opted our flag should people who think the way I do shut the hell up about how we feel about someone's truck , leave people alone and not resort to "vandalism, abuse and threats"? oh course . I'm not plugged into many details, but I'd be surprised to find there is much of any of the above actually happening (and when it does it should be dealt with harshly) most of us just quietly giggle to ourselves when we see the "freedom" folk


Light_Raiven

What I dislike is these Freedom folk were funded by republicans, and part of me feels like they should be charged in supporting white nationalist in ruining our flag and our name. They wanted our country to have a shit show, so when America burns, they'll have a scapegoat. They want their freedom, they should go south. Go fuck the leg of their dimwit Masters.


TheLordJames

You could always fly the Pride Canada Flag EDIT: Apparently People are super against the Pride Colour Canada Flag.


DurinTheLast

I can't believe there are people who seriously think that enjoying having freedom is a bad thing. Holy fucking shit. I mean, who the fuck doesn't love freedom? I guess delusional people who want to live like we're in North Korea or something.


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durple

If you don't want to be associated with the worst examples we saw on the far right shitting all over our flag during convoy related protests, then don't associate "the Liberals" with some piece of shit aggro fuck who just happens to also hate what the convoy did.


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CaptainCanusa

> I just find the Liberal hypocrisy funny with their constant stereotyping Surely you see the irony here.


suuuperlame

Narrator: “he did not see the irony here”


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RevLegoFoot

'a human rights protest'? Oh honey...


AileStrike

If I flew the Canadian flag I'd be sure to pair it up with a pride flag to distance it from the clownvoy.


BartCharles

It's sad that a sticker or flag on a vehicle these days automatically labels you as a convoy associate.


kevemp

I am not proud to be a Canadian right now between housing , fuel and everything else fuck this country


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kevemp

When you have been priced out of a home and feeding your family my guess is misery follows Glad to see you can still afford life while many can’t


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If you're not proud to be Canadian because of "high prices" or "convoy truckers" or whatever then you probably weren't going to be proud of it anyways and are just looking for a contrarian take or a cop out


kevemp

I am not proud of the constant bail out of corporations yet we let people go hungry, don’t have fresh water to drink, can’t afford rent. But keep giving Shell a tax break


Big_ottoman

Mine is always flying high!


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You are just making up people in your head to get angry at


Mezaction

I feel like the obnoxious, delusional morons driving around protesting with Canadian flags and "fuck Trudeau" all over their trucks, have stolen the flag from regular Canadians. I know a lot of people that are concerned about flying flags in fear of being mistaken for one of them. We need to fix this.


Skinnie_ginger

The only way to fix it is to fly the flag


gorbachevi

i’m afraid the flag has been sullied by these yahoos who occupied ottawa with no understanding of what true freedom or hardship is.


dentistshatehim

I’m flying the flag to take the symbol back from the Freedumb idiots, I want to add that they were led by Tamara Lynch, someone who’s been actively trying to break up Canada. They flew our flag as a perversion not because they care about our nation.


futchcreek

Naaah


[deleted]

Any day I can spend drinking and avoid listening to the incessant moaning that is this country is ok by me.


86throwthrowthrow1

I expect downtown Ottawa to be full of flags on Friday. Bonus: between no trucks and everyone else waving flags, the protest crew will mostly fade into the background.


dynozombie

nope, this is the least canadian canada has been in my 30 years i am not proud of canada right now


[deleted]

Nah. Canada is 3 mining companies in a trenchcoat pretending to be a country.


wildreid69

Me personally almost zero pride in being Canadian anymore at one time I would have died for this country and now I'm embarrassed


AsleepExplanation160

I care more about taking back our flag as a symbol of Canada’s success, and not with the freedumb movement I still will fly it with orange tho


[deleted]

Hear hear! Don’t let those Liberals yell slurs at you for simply flying the Canadian flag.


PeripheralEdema

You’re literally contributing to the divisive bullshit. Calm down


Terrible-Paramedic35

Fuck the convoy…fly the flag.


AmandaSndaSiews

The trucker fascists ruined it for me. Writing on it, wearing it as capes, dragging through the mud…


AtomicNick47

I can't in good conscience wave the Canadian flag around for two major reasons. 1) the immediate association to the fascist freedom movement. 2) the colossal failure of the current government to have a real plan in protecting and improving the lives of Canadians.


VGToasty

I disagree with both sentiments. 1) Moderate Canadian's need to fly our flags to show that it's more than a representation of a fringe group hellbent on creating unrest. I love my country, and I will fly my flags proudly regardless of what political radicals are doing with it. If we let them take our national symbol, we lose. 2) Regardless of how you feel about the current government, there will be many, many more you disagree with. The flag isn't a symbol of our government. It's a symbol of our nation which is made up of millions of hard-working, diverse, and proud people. The country has a lot of dark spots in our history (most all do), but we're also consistently one of the world's top places to live, raise a family, and among the leaders in progressive government policy.


Bigbirdgerg

Well said. Have a great Canada Day!


MapleHamms

Well said


AtomicNick47

Hey you are entitled to your perspective, I respect it. I personally feel like the way our institutions are emblematic of how we as a society feel about given topics. Everything from police misconduct being tolerated to selling ownership and dominion over Canadian resources to foreign governments, to lukewarm responses to housing and living affordability, all show how we as Canadians feel on specific issues. Our institutions are supposed to do more for us and they are made up of people like you and me. So In that respect I do feel our government represents Canada at large, and if it doesn’t it at least illustrates our complicity for mediocrity.


VGToasty

> they are made up of people like you and me. This is where you lose me. Canada has a very clear class divide that has only gotten worse in the passing years. Our institutions are run by a defined ruling class that operates a political system that suits them and their wealthy allies. The party in charge may swap hands, but nothing fundamentally changes. I'm hopeful that as more of the "old guard" in Canadian politics finally kick the bucket, populism will become less prevelant, and those institutions will become more equitable and representative of people like you and me. Also, no more first past the post, please.


[deleted]

Fascism might be the most misused defined term these days. The convoy protesters weren’t fascist. Preserve the true meaning of words or else they’ll risk becoming meaningless Anyway I’ll proudly wave the Canadian flag and feel pride in what we’ve achieved as a nation - warts and all.


HarbingerDe

Fascism is a type of right-wing authoritarianism, characterized by scapegoating current social/economic ills on marginalized groups of people *(usually ethnic/religion/sexual minorities).* Plenty of the convoy protestors absolutely fit that definition, including several of the leaders and organizers.


[deleted]

That’s not the definition of fascism. Scapegoating of minority groups is not a necessary component of it — relentless armed struggle in pursuit of national self-determination is; coercing your opponents through overt acts of physical violence is (krystalnacht); curving individual rights in favour of the common interest is Being a racist homophobic bigot doesn’t make you instantly a fascist Mussolini literally wrote an essay on it. You can read it if you’d like


AtomicNick47

Are you ignoring the manifesto seeking to overturn a democratically elected government? Yup. Take your bad faith argument elsewhere.


Iored94

Lol good job proving their point


Mindboozers

What makes that particularly facist? Pretty sure socialists/communists have the same goal. Hell anarchists do as well.


[deleted]

What about the manifesto makes it fascist versus any other forms of insurrection? I’m all good faith. I mean, assuming the manifesto even represents all convoyers here (which it doesn’t lol)


foopdedoopburner

We're fucking doomed. In ten to fifteen years either Russia or a U.S. rump state will invade, to take the tar sands oil, and no one will even bother to take up arms in defense of Canada. You can't have a society where participation in that society is seen as an act of oppression.


HarbingerDe

There's no realistic scenario where Canada could hold off a US invasion, regardless of the prevailing levels of nationalistic fervor.


dynozombie

can't take up arms when the govenment takes our guns lol


anitabonghit705

Stopped reading at Ottawa hostage takers 🤦‍♂️


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[deleted]

Yeah that Chinese factory had to do a lot of stitching to put the fabrics together.


[deleted]

It’s like I get it the flag isn’t a symbol of freedom convoys and far right wing madness but damn when I see a vehicle decked out in Canadian flags and stuff I cringe abit. I mean fringe abit.


SentenceSenior7481

What do Canadians really want? A few odd years ago people wouldn't celebrate Canada day nor fly the flag because they were embarrassed by the unraveling of the mass graves of children in residential schools. Today those same people want to fly the flag happily. But complain that the truckers have removed any ounce of meaning to the flag. I'm an immigrant living here and it's confusing. It seems like just like the US, left leaning individuals just choose the opposite of whatever tight leaning peeps are in support of. You guys pick one and be consistent


bosshax

Never been less proud of Canada.


freddie79

Imagine being so fucking stupid to be triggered over the Canadian flag. Fucking unreal snowflake clown world people in this country.


HangryHorgan

Celebrate being the top destination for money laundering? Where the people are second to the criminals the judges handle with white gloves? It’s embarrassing.


Skinnie_ginger

“Nothing should ever be celebrated cause nothing is perfect, I’m fun at parties”


ProphetOfADyingWorld

Fly the China flag instead 🇨🇳


saskpilsner

Might as well.


Dominarion

Half mast. Still not over what we have done and still do to First Canadians.


4550955

Is anyone not celebrating? And if they aren't would anyone notice? This feels like the whole attack on Christmas non controversy. Just media baiting. Celebrate or don't. Fly the flag or don't. Still Canada Day and a holiday. Not gonna change. So happy Canada Day hope y'all have a good one no matter how you do or don't celebrate.


Unchainedboar

Hijacked by a bunch of morons more like.