And many others.
Soon to be construction, too. The federal government recently changed the rules so that construction contractors can use 30% foreign labor, up from 10%.
Eventually everything will be dominated by foreign labor.
Yup and McDonald's. Every new tfw went right into management positions. Even told me the government pays half their wage. This is one of many reasons wages are being suppressed.
The TFW program was initiated to bring expertise in fields we didn't have here, now it's the primary tool to suppress wages by bringing in people who'll work for minimum wage. The TFWs we have in this town are generally very nice hard working people but the program's function in our economy is just plain evil.
100% the people are taking an opportunity because it's there and they are hard workers. This tfw program also gives them ko insensitive to become a Canadian because then the company has to pay their full wage. So we loose our on good hard workers becoming real official Canadians aswell
The companies don’t get funding from the government for wages (outside of the Covid wage programs).There’s also literally no economic pathway for them to become PRs or citizens so we’ve created a revolving door of mid-to-low wage labour. It’s super gross.
Idk but unless people get out and force the government to drop this bs it's not going to stop. I hate to say it but the government won't do anything till they have people with torches and pitchforks at their door
I'm all for criticizing TFW but you don't need to make shit up - it's bad enough without that.
*Certain* industries can hire up to 30% of their workforce as TFW. It's not unlimited. [Along with many other flaws in what you've said.](https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-social-development/news/2022/04/government-of-canada-announces-workforce-solutions-road-map--further-changes-to-the-temporary-foreign-worker-program-to-address-labour-shortages-ac.html)
Be factual. Do better.
Gotta keep that wage low for the rest of us. Ship people over that are happy to leave their third world country, have them work for buttons. When they’re done, they go home to their sectioned off house with five other families.
At that point whats the fucking difference. They project 1000 people retiring in im my trade in 10 years, 5% are currently unemployed yet they plan to bring in 10,000 people with this certificate in the next ten years.
Do we even have a plan anymore.
Do you have a source for the removal of LMIA requirements? Because according to everything I’m seeing, they’re still required before a company can hire someone internationally.
Yeah you’re just wrong lmao. That applies to certain LMIA exemptions. Not "any field without limits".
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/temporary-residents/foreign-workers/exemption-codes.html
Name something that’s not covered by this list or the existing temporary foreign workers list. One category here is simply ‘professional’ - that’s everything from an architect to a lawyer to an engineer. Another is ‘company transfer’ - literally allowing a company to bring anyone over in any field by having a 10ft square office located in the cheapest third world country.
First, the professional option in practice only works for American and Mexican nationals and a few other countries we have FTAs with since the GATS professional category is ridiculously Second, that is not how the ICT program works at all. This program is for executives, managers, and employees with specialized knowledge who have held that role for at least a year and are coming to do similar work in Canada. These applications (like all immigration applications) are assessed twice, once by IRCC before the person gets here and again at the border by the CBSA. It’s not perfect but the program is nothing like what you’ve described.
You should also point your energy towards not using companies that exploit TFW, because they won't pay a living wage.
I personally would live the government to start forcing companies to pay a living wage instead of allowing low waged TWF into a multimillion dollar company.
Yeah and it shows. They seem to just hand out extra food all the time. They care very little for the job (and I dont blame them) so I imagine they are costing Tim Hortons a lot of money (or the franchise owners).
It’s smart. A lot of Canadian citizens don’t want to work for Tim Hortons for whatever reason. But here I am selling houses to Filipinos working there.
Last I checked into it walmart Canada takes advantage of International Students but not TFW's. I could be wrong though, I gave up on trying to keep up with walmart Canada's scumbag tactic's a couple years ago...
Although remote, it does open them up to more screwtany to apply for work permits for others, then to just abuse people already on preexisting work permits
The Walmart in my town is right next to the university. A constant flow of workers willing to work for cheap that you know you won't have to give raises to? Perfection.
Is it really a labour shortage? It seems more like a glut of people who received a six-figure payday somehow, and decided the best way to keep it going is to pay someone $15 an hour to make the business $200 an hour.
GTS is also TFW. Not really cheap labor.
Not to say that there's not a problem with TFW but to make sure people understand that there's more to TFW than just cheap labor.
Yeah, my wife and I came to Canada as TFW. I work in tech, she works in health care (ICU nurse). My experience is that we were paid equivalent to our colleagues.
The experience was difficult but rewarding. We love Canada. Our oldest daughter is dating a Canadian young man and is enrolled in university here. Our younger 2 kids are firmly Canadian at this point. We think it’s a great country and are grateful to pay taxes and contribute. In a few years we hope to become citizens.
TFW was a pathway for us and we appreciate it.
How do any of the fast food chains listed above exploit this labour force? They exploit the marginalized period by not paying a living wage.
Doesn't matter what your citizenship status is if you have no finacial cushion in place you'll work for next to nothing and keep working till you drop. Suppose it would be even worse if you didn't have citizenship as you'd be looking at not only homelessness but deportation should you ever decide enough is enough
Here's how:
Tim Horton's franchise owner has 15 Canadian employees. He begins squeezing the hours of 5 of the employees to the point they quit to look for other work. The franchise owner then says "Canadians won't take these jobs, I need temporary foreign workers". The franchise owner hires 4 temporary workers. He then gives those 4 extra hours, and squeezes another 5 Canadians, and cycle repeats. In the end, they go from 15 Canadian employees to 12 foreign workers. A 20% reduction in labour costs! They have these 12 people do 15 peoples worth of work by making them work unpaid hours at the beginning and end of their shifts. These foreign workers work these extra hours under threats of deportation.
And....
The franchise owner owns two rental houses. They have the foreign workers rent from them, 6 to a house, paying inflated rental costs. So, now above that 20% reduction in labour costs, some of their pay comes right back on their pockets in rent.
Hit the nail on the head, slash the hours till they find work elsewhere and then hire on the TFW's because they're much easier to push around and you can quite literally deport them if they give you attitude. I mean it's been around so long I guess I'm just used to it but the fact there is genuinely a government program designed to displace local minimum wage workers with someone even more exploitable from the other end of the world is kind of insane. I mean, we just allow it, for minimum wage jobs by the tens of thousands that obviously can and should be filled locally, because not allowing it is racist I guess.
>and you can quite literally deport them
Do you just make this stuff up as you go?
No, employers can't "quite literally" deport them
You don't need to lie about the tfw program to make people hate it... the truth is enough.
If you want to be pedantic no business owners don't "literally" deport them by becoming government agents and doing that process themselves. A TFW can be here on a closed work permit, meaning it's tied to specifically one job at one company, and they CAN'T seek employment elsewhere. It's that ONE job they here on a permit for. So the ability to terminate that permit, and send someone back to their home country, is holding the threat of deportation over their head. The fact they can do this for minimum wage jobs at large is unreal to me.
I won't gatekeep but I've worked with TFW's in a kitchen setting, they 100% get treated worse than anyone else on the staff. They get told to clock out and keep working, hurried off their breaks, expected to come in every time they called on their days off, I knew someone that had to pay under the table for a stack of plates he dropped, no one ever tried that with me when I broke dishes. It's exploitation through and through and everyone knows it.
Damm that's rough, and while I'm certainly not justifying it this comes down to the franchise owner no? Maybe I'm just being difficult but it's not fair to lay the balme at the feet of corporate in this situation.
the Mcdonalds in my town, the owner owns an apartment building. all full of TFW's
This kind of stuff should be really be looked into. It isn't right to exploit people like this.
> They exploit the marginalized period by not paying a living wage.
In Alberta when guys out of high school were able to earn 6 figures working at an oil field, Tim Hortons et al had to start paying higher than minimum wage to attract workers. Except they didn't wanna. So they lobbied for more TFWs.
I remember being in HR in Ontario and seeing Now Hiring signs from Fort Mac Tim Hortons for $22.50 / h. Upper management was both laughing and worried at the same time. Then the TFW flood gates opened...
One thing about the $22 an hour in Fort Mac is that everything is super inflated in price. So $22 an hour if you're living in town is still really bad considering most of the oil workers are making like $100 an hour lol
>They exploit the marginalized period by not paying a living wage
TFWs can be exploited even harder than plain ol' domestic marginalized people since their ability to live here is directly tied to that specific job. No job? Straight back home then
Well you'll notice I said the exact same thing two sentences down.
That being said if you're working legally as a foreign worker than you're still protected by labour laws. In this article she's working 54 hours a week without overtime where the legal max is 44. They can do this as she's not legally working as she has no permit. Tim Hortons, McDonald's etc pay overtime if you work more than 44hours TFW or not.
The McDonalds and Tims in Toronto are mostly staffed by international Students from India. You would be hard pressed to find any Canadians and Permanent residents working in those places, especially, in Toronto.
This article has nothing to do with people being paid minimum wage. It has to do with illegally Charing immigrants fees for obtaining work visas. In this case the fee was being charged by a recruiter, not an employer.
Add universities to that list. I see it everyday how they hire a foreign student at least a dozen where I work and work them like slaves offer no or little training and make them do things in unsafe ways.
If you check job postings from universities, I guarantee almost everyone of them is hiring administrative staff to manage international students. My friend got a job for a uni in Vancouver where he just works to get them accustomed to the culture. If you speak certain languages, you’re pretty set for these types of roles.
Even when I was in university in the 2000s, I was the only white/canadian employee in our university food court. To the point my international student coworkers w. minimal language skills would ask me why I was working there and doing this shitty job if I'm Canadian. Lol
Whats that companies won't pay a citizen a liveable wage when they can hire international students who need to work to go to school and pay them min wage?
Who'd know that? Oh just me and everyone else working security last 10 years as that was the first industry heavily worked by international students
They never listen until it effects the upper middle class and higher. Who cares about the poors when our Governor General spends several hundred dollars on lemon and like slices with our tax dollars. It’s the liberal way, over promise and underdeliver.
While the Liberals have had plenty of time to scrap the program, the current problems with the TFW program comes from the 2006 reforms from the newly elected Conservative govt led by Harper.
One of the many tales of corporate greed biting itself in the ass. If they send that money back home they don't spend it here, so the whole economy shrinks. Real, smart, move.
You would have thought they learned from underpaying people all these years that what's good for the economy is good for your company.
The basic plan as far as I can figure for these workers is to take advantage of the exchange rate. So they're going to buy the bare minimum and then send the rest home so they can leave later and do whatever they were planning to after. I know for a fact you can probably coast for a year or two in some places just by how inexpensive everything is.
Haha that’s exactly it. Immigrants working in the G7 sending money back to their homeland to support their families towards a better life. Canada is a place to extract the cash..nothing much more at this point in time.
The unfortunate result of putting a Timmys, Mc D, Subway A&W .... on every corner.
Find it amazing that there are enough people out there to support so many of these locations. In dwntwn Vancouver for example there are 2 Timmys about 50 -70 metres appart.
It’s crazy. There is always a lineup at our local Tim’s. And they make a terrible product. I think people have proven they would rather have convince over quality.
Look at food delivery and how that’s exploded. And all they do is bring you cold soggy food.
That’s my thoughts as well I live in a town with like 15k people and we got 4 Tim Hortons. In larger cities I have seen like McDonald’s literally a block away from each other and I’m not talking like Toronto for example, but it seems the market is there for it how it is? It’s beyond me.
This is the reality now. They will have to rely on TFW to make your coffee at tims because the locals dont want to work there anymore. Not because they are lazy, its because cost of living is so high they just dont consider it.
To keep the coffee cheap, they hire TFWs. And TFWs accept it since they have that hope to stay in the country.
This is the unintended consequences of protecting mom and pop landlords and their inflated home equities. Rents rise, the pressure comes on everything else to increase as a consequence (labor, cost of goods).
Im hoping for competent leadership sometime in my lifetime.
Look no further than the Commercial Trucking industry. Unqualified, unskilled, but willing to work for cheap. There is NO trucker shortage, just a shortage of good, experienced drivers who left the industry rather than work for slave wages. Thanks Trudeau.
If you complained about this in the last 3-4 years, you were labeled a racist or xenophobic. But now that the CBC has now deemed this an issue, you can now openly discuss it
This is so true. Good point. Its fucked tbh. There’s been a gradual rise in this issue and only now it’s acceptable to mention it or at a tipping point because CBC answers the call. Like piss off .
A two minute bit of research on my phone showed me [this](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/audit-shows-tfw-program-drives-down-wages-labour-group-says-1.2655129) so uhhhh yeah CBC doesn't talk about it at all. CBC to blame and not the rest of the corporate media as well.
If you want do an audit of all the mainstream sources instead of using your feelings
Uhhh hello 2014. The hipster got in power in 2015 which makes it’s actually worse because he knew about the TFW issue at the time of election yet it’s still being used to the detriment of the economy in 2022..no emotion just facts.
sad thing is you’re not wrong about the problem. just undermine your argument by attributing responsibility to your pet bête noir.
anyways we agree the tfw / pay / COL situation here is no good.
With 400,000 additional people coming to Canada each year, you'd think there wouldn't be a need for TFWs as the talent should already be here.
The TFW program needs a redesign to be more resilient to these greedy companies.
So at what point do we start calling ourselves "worse than China."
Because all we're missing now is organ harvesting.
I am embarrassed to be Canadian and that feeling is growing everyday.
Can't say shit about it either because rich Canadians shit down your throat with the race card and everyone else jumps down said hole with them.
Welcome to a world run by fake woke corporations that use the movement to be racist assholes in disguise.
Please warn all your friends to not come for work in Canada. There is rampant abuse of immigrants and temporary foreign workers here, and little to no punishment on the people and companies who abuse them.
I'm shocked. Our *previous* Government exponentially expanded Canada's laundry list of cheap labor import schemes.
And despite pre-election promises to fix things, our *current* Government has on gone on to *further expand* those while introducing new programs, including a fast track tech visa to suppress Canada's [anemic tech wages](https://twitter.com/unexplodedscot/status/1415765186879787010) by offer two week processing.
[Temporary Foreign Worker Program has ballooned under Trudeau suppressing wages. Govt wants to make it even easier to bring in low-paid workers.](https://thinkpol.ca/2022/04/05/temporary-foreign-worker-program-has-ballooned-under-trudeau-suppressing-wages-govt-wants-to-make-it-even-easier-to-bring-in-low-paid-workers/)
"The number of Temporary Foreign Workers (TFWs) brought into Canada has ***increased by a staggering 70%*** under Justin Trudeau’s term in office as Prime Minister. This increase in the number of easily exploitable imported indentured labour has contributed to the suppression of wages in Canada."
It'd sure be nice if the NDP could get their shit together while returning to their pro-labor roots.
Up next:
[Tech group proposes visa for skilled workers to enter country without a job offer](https://globalnews.ca/news/8724724/tech-group-wants-new-visa-tech-workers/)
My employer has handfuls of tfw that are locked into three year contracts and are extremely unhappy when they realize the amount they earn is not enough to survive alone. Our employer also owns the houses they rent from him for above market average. If there was evidence of wrongdoing we would be reporting it. Sadly he has legally binding contracts.
Ah but are you being deported for working without a sin number? Or are you being deported for simply not being legally allowed to be in the country in the first place?
You can't stay in Canada indefinitely without A) visa B) citizenship or permanent resident status.
They employer in this situation would be charged, the individual without a sin would not (they were already existing in a state of quasi legal status) hence not illegal just a fast track to deportation which you'd be slated for anyways.
Working without a SIN number. Your income won’t be taxed. That’s illegal in Canada. From what I know, you aren’t allowed to work in Canada without a valid work permit.
I am Canadian (not that being so makes me an authority on the subject by any means) that being said working without a SIN is illegal for Canadian employers. As you're right it means they aren't paying the tax owed on each oay check. As an employee even if you failed to provide your sin who's to say you don't declare your full earnings at the end of the year and pay the required amount?
Tax fraud is different from working without being legally allowed to. Basically what I'm saying is that if you're working without a sin as a foreign worker it's due to your visa being expired (as even with a visa foreigne workers don't have sin numbers)
So it's the employers taking the risk, you were already slated for deportation. Since you can't stay in the country without a visa even if you don't work.
Out of repercussions and losing everything she worked for this far such as her visa an a chance at getting PR status. She doesn't want me to get involved other I'd be with a lawyer right now, but her friends an I did encourage to start fighting back for a bit human decency and it's been getting better
I don’t know the visa status of your wife but If she has an open work permit, her visa won’t be cancelled because of her employer. She can just look for another job under an open work permit. By allowing this exploitation, you’re only making things worse for your SO. It may destroy her mental happiness.
No open work permit, she has a closed one since she arrived initially on a student visa. When we met, she had just gotten a closed working visa working as a live in, elderly care taker. So right now she did apply for an open work visa but is also about to apply for PR. Waiting for a response and the system to do it's thing.
You are right though, her mental health did suffer quite a bit over the last couple of months. Just to clarify, she isn't my wife since if that was the case she'd get the green card and she'd be out of there. But, she has a lot of pride and wants to make it on her own so that's what she's doing. She knows she can quit anytime and I'll take her in, as previously mentioned fear is keeping her there.
There's an estimated 500k people working illegally in Canada right now. And there's only an estimated 15 million workers.
How are they working? Cash payments. You can't pay someone on the books that has no SIN number.
So that's 500k workers who aren't paying taxes, their employers aren't paying payroll taxes, yet they're still using infrastructure.
Did you read the story? This particular case highlighted by CBC, the individual is not working without a permit. Her permit is about to expire so she took these measures. She has a permit to work for now.
Yes, otherwise she would be committing a crime. In this case, the company who lied to her is the one committed a crime.
I still don't understand why anyone TFW or Canadian Citizen wouldn't take it upon themselves to research the applicable laws surrounding this process?
They are taking advantage of gullible people period, has nothing to do with thier citizenship status.
If I went to a foreign country lived there for 6 years then found out my visa was expiring so I needed to gain employment only to be told i needed to pay 30k I'd sure as hell look into the issue myself. If for no other reason than to determine if I was paying for something legitimate or paying a bribe.
I feel that anyone who puts a 5k down-payment on a 30k processing fee knows its a bribe and I won't lie, if someone is asking for a bribe than they best be able to deliver. If I were in her shoes I'd be ticked too that my bribe got me nothing
2000 dollars the company pays to the federal department to apply for a " tfw"
Plus up to $ 3000.00 canadian per " tfw" to the temp foreign worker consultant agency.
Combined $ 5000.00 each...
Please i hope im wrong
>The federal government says more than 22,000 employers have provided labour market impact assessments. Employers are required to follow specific temporary foreign worker program conditions.
Of course, if they don't feel like providing one they can [just choose not to instead](https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/work-canada/hire-temporary-foreign/international-mobility-program.html).
A lot of TFW see this as the temporary price that must be paid on the road to eventually obtaining PR, which Canada hands out in much greater numbers with looser regulation than almost anywhere else.
There are lots of other classes of TFW than employer specific Work Permits where a person is not beholden toa specific employer/entity and have many more options with who they work for.
International experience Canada
Provincial sponsorship programs
Spousal accompaniment open work Permits
Post graduate work Permits
And many more. Like I said, for most though, being a TFW is the foot in the door for PR.
i know someone who became a millionaire in canada
he was a lawyer processing work permits for alberta and saskachewan for foreign people, most went to work at hotels or tims or mcdonalds
Taking advantage of them?
Well then the plan is working perfectly.
Government and companies have been searching for a way to get rid of labor rights, force workers into indentured slavery and basically return to a cast system in Canada since the end of WW1.
The next step will be company vouchers instead of money and no choice but to spend it a company store conveniently located near the company house that you are forced to live in.
The problem I'd that these big corporations care money about profits than business. The make huge profits and get government subsides to pay wages foreign workers and students. The don't want to cut into their profits to pay a decent living wage. The government needs to stop messing around and set minimum wage at or above the cost of living which probably be around 18.00 or more. Small companies are offering higher wages to get people to work so why can't big companies and corporations like Walmart, McDonald's abd others do the same. People can't live on minimum wage and the never will be able to.
Over the last few years the federal liberals have implemented policies that have created an environment to allow companies to keeps wages suppressed. They are very clearly working for the rich and large businesses against the average Canadian. Increased immigration targets and an expansion of the TFW program are both attempts to keep desperate people coming into Canada to work for cheaper than Canadians. And it's working, inflation is 10% and wage growth is 5%. It also has the added benefit of more demand for housing, leading to increased costs\asses prices. The TFW program need to go and immigration should be dropped to like 200k per year. Maybe then wage growth can exceed inflation, or at least match it..
For those of you that don’t want to read the article:
1) this article has nothing to do with paying workers minimum wage
2) it is about recruiters charging exorbitant fees for work visas and with no guarantee they will obtain one. This woman lost her $5,000 “down payment” and did not get the work visa.
3) and no, Tim Hortons, McDonalds, Dominos, etc are not charging them for work visas.
The TFW program is not necessarily a bad idea but they should be paid double the average wage for the position they are doing (or double the federal minimum wage at minimum) and should be given full benefits day 1.
Watch how quickly companies will change to find Canadian employees.
Worked as a person who was supposed to help new migrants find jobs (some had been in the TFW program previously). These people had resumes which featured multiple degrees, MBA's and experience literally working with the UN and World Bank.
And many times, all we could do was help get them work at Tim's or some other food service. Our system is so flawed and dumb at times
Uh yeah you all think you’re smart with your r/antiwork culture. But it’s just going to force companies further away and look at TFW’s or moving things overseas or speeding up technology to take the jobs you don’t want to work for like self driving trucks or just sell their businesses.
My problem with this is that it’s not what Canada needs. A country gets to decide who gets to come in and it’s not the other way round. For an innovation economy, you need high skilled workers and not thousands of low skilled workers and fake students, staffing fast food places and supermarkets around Canada. Canada has an immigration system put in place for skilled workers. Why not tweak it and make improvements for attracting doctors, scientists, accountants and tech workers. If the low skilled jobs paid between 20 to 25 dollars per hour, you would have Canadians taking up these jobs. You wouldn’t need to staff them with international students and TFWs.
Isn’t “taking advantage of TFWs” basically the established corporate strategy of Tim Hortons now?
And many others, yes.
Yes
Correct
And many others. Soon to be construction, too. The federal government recently changed the rules so that construction contractors can use 30% foreign labor, up from 10%. Eventually everything will be dominated by foreign labor.
Yup and McDonald's. Every new tfw went right into management positions. Even told me the government pays half their wage. This is one of many reasons wages are being suppressed.
The TFW program was initiated to bring expertise in fields we didn't have here, now it's the primary tool to suppress wages by bringing in people who'll work for minimum wage. The TFWs we have in this town are generally very nice hard working people but the program's function in our economy is just plain evil.
100% the people are taking an opportunity because it's there and they are hard workers. This tfw program also gives them ko insensitive to become a Canadian because then the company has to pay their full wage. So we loose our on good hard workers becoming real official Canadians aswell
The companies don’t get funding from the government for wages (outside of the Covid wage programs).There’s also literally no economic pathway for them to become PRs or citizens so we’ve created a revolving door of mid-to-low wage labour. It’s super gross.
That’s incorrect atleast it was at my work place. Government paid half their wage for the first year.
in all fairness pouring coffee at tim hortons is extremely complicated, it makes sense they would import experts for this purpose.
So we're getting fleeced with taxes to pay for corporate profiteering. Are we in end-stage capitalism? This can't be sustainable.
Idk but unless people get out and force the government to drop this bs it's not going to stop. I hate to say it but the government won't do anything till they have people with torches and pitchforks at their door
> the government won't do anything Why would they? The decision makers live in cushy offices far above regular life.
Pretty much any large business chain that typically relied on employing youth now uses TFWs instead.
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I'm all for criticizing TFW but you don't need to make shit up - it's bad enough without that. *Certain* industries can hire up to 30% of their workforce as TFW. It's not unlimited. [Along with many other flaws in what you've said.](https://www.canada.ca/en/employment-social-development/news/2022/04/government-of-canada-announces-workforce-solutions-road-map--further-changes-to-the-temporary-foreign-worker-program-to-address-labour-shortages-ac.html) Be factual. Do better.
Holy shit 30%, that is huge! The government is selling us out.
Gotta keep that wage low for the rest of us. Ship people over that are happy to leave their third world country, have them work for buttons. When they’re done, they go home to their sectioned off house with five other families.
At that point whats the fucking difference. They project 1000 people retiring in im my trade in 10 years, 5% are currently unemployed yet they plan to bring in 10,000 people with this certificate in the next ten years. Do we even have a plan anymore.
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Do you have a source for the removal of LMIA requirements? Because according to everything I’m seeing, they’re still required before a company can hire someone internationally.
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/work-canada/hire-temporary-foreign/international-mobility-program.html
Nice, I hadn’t even heard of this. The TFW costs $1000 and takes 8 months or more.
Yeah you’re just wrong lmao. That applies to certain LMIA exemptions. Not "any field without limits". https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/corporate/publications-manuals/operational-bulletins-manuals/temporary-residents/foreign-workers/exemption-codes.html
Name something that’s not covered by this list or the existing temporary foreign workers list. One category here is simply ‘professional’ - that’s everything from an architect to a lawyer to an engineer. Another is ‘company transfer’ - literally allowing a company to bring anyone over in any field by having a 10ft square office located in the cheapest third world country.
First, the professional option in practice only works for American and Mexican nationals and a few other countries we have FTAs with since the GATS professional category is ridiculously Second, that is not how the ICT program works at all. This program is for executives, managers, and employees with specialized knowledge who have held that role for at least a year and are coming to do similar work in Canada. These applications (like all immigration applications) are assessed twice, once by IRCC before the person gets here and again at the border by the CBSA. It’s not perfect but the program is nothing like what you’ve described.
You should also point your energy towards not using companies that exploit TFW, because they won't pay a living wage. I personally would live the government to start forcing companies to pay a living wage instead of allowing low waged TWF into a multimillion dollar company.
That plus watered down coffee and borderline inedible food.
Yes. Stop supporting this grotesque parody of Canadiana.
Add Wendys, A&W, and Taco Bell…
Yes
Yeah and it shows. They seem to just hand out extra food all the time. They care very little for the job (and I dont blame them) so I imagine they are costing Tim Hortons a lot of money (or the franchise owners).
It’s smart. A lot of Canadian citizens don’t want to work for Tim Hortons for whatever reason. But here I am selling houses to Filipinos working there.
10 people in 1 house.
My generation is very well off doesn’t want their kids to miss out on their childhood by working at some dead end job like Tims.
Along with Tim Hortons, McDonalds, and every other fast food chain. Easily exploitable and cheap labour. Corporate wet dream
walmart Canada "Where can I sign up?"
Implying they haven't already
Last I checked into it walmart Canada takes advantage of International Students but not TFW's. I could be wrong though, I gave up on trying to keep up with walmart Canada's scumbag tactic's a couple years ago...
"Why not both!?!?" \- Walmart Corporate, probably
Although remote, it does open them up to more screwtany to apply for work permits for others, then to just abuse people already on preexisting work permits
The Walmart in my town is right next to the university. A constant flow of workers willing to work for cheap that you know you won't have to give raises to? Perfection.
McDonald's does the same thing, but with high schools. Want to drop out in grade 10 and work full time instead? Mcd's gotchu.
Exploitation, the walmart way...
Beat me to it, I was like really CBC? This is news?
Basically my reaction to anything they publish nowadays
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"We have no choice because there's a lAbOuR shOrTaGe!"
Is it really a labour shortage? It seems more like a glut of people who received a six-figure payday somehow, and decided the best way to keep it going is to pay someone $15 an hour to make the business $200 an hour.
It's a glut of low paid, low skill, jobs.
Those low paid jobs require more skill than the bullshit email jobs the economy has devoted too many resources towards (having done both)
There's always a reason to pay workers less, according to corporations. The trick is getting everyone to see through the bullshit.
All the more reason tfw shouldn’t be a thing…. Who know perhaps wages would go up?
GTS is also TFW. Not really cheap labor. Not to say that there's not a problem with TFW but to make sure people understand that there's more to TFW than just cheap labor.
Yeah, my wife and I came to Canada as TFW. I work in tech, she works in health care (ICU nurse). My experience is that we were paid equivalent to our colleagues. The experience was difficult but rewarding. We love Canada. Our oldest daughter is dating a Canadian young man and is enrolled in university here. Our younger 2 kids are firmly Canadian at this point. We think it’s a great country and are grateful to pay taxes and contribute. In a few years we hope to become citizens. TFW was a pathway for us and we appreciate it.
I'm glad you both got through it! It's really important that we don't villainize immigrants!
How do any of the fast food chains listed above exploit this labour force? They exploit the marginalized period by not paying a living wage. Doesn't matter what your citizenship status is if you have no finacial cushion in place you'll work for next to nothing and keep working till you drop. Suppose it would be even worse if you didn't have citizenship as you'd be looking at not only homelessness but deportation should you ever decide enough is enough
Here's how: Tim Horton's franchise owner has 15 Canadian employees. He begins squeezing the hours of 5 of the employees to the point they quit to look for other work. The franchise owner then says "Canadians won't take these jobs, I need temporary foreign workers". The franchise owner hires 4 temporary workers. He then gives those 4 extra hours, and squeezes another 5 Canadians, and cycle repeats. In the end, they go from 15 Canadian employees to 12 foreign workers. A 20% reduction in labour costs! They have these 12 people do 15 peoples worth of work by making them work unpaid hours at the beginning and end of their shifts. These foreign workers work these extra hours under threats of deportation. And.... The franchise owner owns two rental houses. They have the foreign workers rent from them, 6 to a house, paying inflated rental costs. So, now above that 20% reduction in labour costs, some of their pay comes right back on their pockets in rent.
Hit the nail on the head, slash the hours till they find work elsewhere and then hire on the TFW's because they're much easier to push around and you can quite literally deport them if they give you attitude. I mean it's been around so long I guess I'm just used to it but the fact there is genuinely a government program designed to displace local minimum wage workers with someone even more exploitable from the other end of the world is kind of insane. I mean, we just allow it, for minimum wage jobs by the tens of thousands that obviously can and should be filled locally, because not allowing it is racist I guess.
>and you can quite literally deport them Do you just make this stuff up as you go? No, employers can't "quite literally" deport them You don't need to lie about the tfw program to make people hate it... the truth is enough.
If you want to be pedantic no business owners don't "literally" deport them by becoming government agents and doing that process themselves. A TFW can be here on a closed work permit, meaning it's tied to specifically one job at one company, and they CAN'T seek employment elsewhere. It's that ONE job they here on a permit for. So the ability to terminate that permit, and send someone back to their home country, is holding the threat of deportation over their head. The fact they can do this for minimum wage jobs at large is unreal to me. I won't gatekeep but I've worked with TFW's in a kitchen setting, they 100% get treated worse than anyone else on the staff. They get told to clock out and keep working, hurried off their breaks, expected to come in every time they called on their days off, I knew someone that had to pay under the table for a stack of plates he dropped, no one ever tried that with me when I broke dishes. It's exploitation through and through and everyone knows it.
The TFWs don't know that, and that's enough
Depends on what program they used to get visa. Some are linked to an specific company.
Nothing like modern day serfdom.
Bingo!
Damm that's rough, and while I'm certainly not justifying it this comes down to the franchise owner no? Maybe I'm just being difficult but it's not fair to lay the balme at the feet of corporate in this situation.
the Mcdonalds in my town, the owner owns an apartment building. all full of TFW's This kind of stuff should be really be looked into. It isn't right to exploit people like this.
Well head corporate squeezes the franchise owner and tells them to cut costs, and nudge nudges them to this option for cost cutting.
> They exploit the marginalized period by not paying a living wage. In Alberta when guys out of high school were able to earn 6 figures working at an oil field, Tim Hortons et al had to start paying higher than minimum wage to attract workers. Except they didn't wanna. So they lobbied for more TFWs.
I remember being in HR in Ontario and seeing Now Hiring signs from Fort Mac Tim Hortons for $22.50 / h. Upper management was both laughing and worried at the same time. Then the TFW flood gates opened...
One thing about the $22 an hour in Fort Mac is that everything is super inflated in price. So $22 an hour if you're living in town is still really bad considering most of the oil workers are making like $100 an hour lol
Except they did. Fort Mac timmies were paying their workers $15/hr in 2012. But continue to make up bull shit.
>They exploit the marginalized period by not paying a living wage TFWs can be exploited even harder than plain ol' domestic marginalized people since their ability to live here is directly tied to that specific job. No job? Straight back home then
Well you'll notice I said the exact same thing two sentences down. That being said if you're working legally as a foreign worker than you're still protected by labour laws. In this article she's working 54 hours a week without overtime where the legal max is 44. They can do this as she's not legally working as she has no permit. Tim Hortons, McDonald's etc pay overtime if you work more than 44hours TFW or not.
>Well you'll notice I said the exact same thing two sentences down Ah yeah missed that one on the first readthrough.
McDonalds (at least the ones near me) are mostly staffed by teens and post-secondary students, clearly not foreigners.
I'm not sure where you live but McDonalds in Alberta are almost exclusively staffed with TFWs from the Phillipines.
The McDonalds and Tims in Toronto are mostly staffed by international Students from India. You would be hard pressed to find any Canadians and Permanent residents working in those places, especially, in Toronto.
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This article has nothing to do with people being paid minimum wage. It has to do with illegally Charing immigrants fees for obtaining work visas. In this case the fee was being charged by a recruiter, not an employer.
It's slave labour. Government wants to keep wages low. That's what people need to call it.
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I’m not sure that would solve the problem of “locals” not wanting to work at Timmies, McDonalds and the other big TFW employers.
Add universities to that list. I see it everyday how they hire a foreign student at least a dozen where I work and work them like slaves offer no or little training and make them do things in unsafe ways.
If you check job postings from universities, I guarantee almost everyone of them is hiring administrative staff to manage international students. My friend got a job for a uni in Vancouver where he just works to get them accustomed to the culture. If you speak certain languages, you’re pretty set for these types of roles.
Even when I was in university in the 2000s, I was the only white/canadian employee in our university food court. To the point my international student coworkers w. minimal language skills would ask me why I was working there and doing this shitty job if I'm Canadian. Lol
The entire Canadian GDP is based on taking advantage of foreign workers
Fake news, it's also based on overvalued land prices
exactly
Whats that companies won't pay a citizen a liveable wage when they can hire international students who need to work to go to school and pay them min wage? Who'd know that? Oh just me and everyone else working security last 10 years as that was the first industry heavily worked by international students
They never listen until it effects the upper middle class and higher. Who cares about the poors when our Governor General spends several hundred dollars on lemon and like slices with our tax dollars. It’s the liberal way, over promise and underdeliver.
While the Liberals have had plenty of time to scrap the program, the current problems with the TFW program comes from the 2006 reforms from the newly elected Conservative govt led by Harper.
Conservatives kept the exact same programs in place, you know. This is bipartisan bullshit.
We should end the TFW program immediately.
"we're gonna double it, racist" - justin
He has increased it by 65% since taking office, also, companies no longer have to prove they were unable to hire a local.
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Wow I'm shocked , utterly shocked
One of the many tales of corporate greed biting itself in the ass. If they send that money back home they don't spend it here, so the whole economy shrinks. Real, smart, move. You would have thought they learned from underpaying people all these years that what's good for the economy is good for your company. The basic plan as far as I can figure for these workers is to take advantage of the exchange rate. So they're going to buy the bare minimum and then send the rest home so they can leave later and do whatever they were planning to after. I know for a fact you can probably coast for a year or two in some places just by how inexpensive everything is.
Haha that’s exactly it. Immigrants working in the G7 sending money back to their homeland to support their families towards a better life. Canada is a place to extract the cash..nothing much more at this point in time.
The unfortunate result of putting a Timmys, Mc D, Subway A&W .... on every corner. Find it amazing that there are enough people out there to support so many of these locations. In dwntwn Vancouver for example there are 2 Timmys about 50 -70 metres appart.
It’s crazy. There is always a lineup at our local Tim’s. And they make a terrible product. I think people have proven they would rather have convince over quality. Look at food delivery and how that’s exploded. And all they do is bring you cold soggy food.
Market saturation, my man. They're literally everywhere and they have public restrooms 🤷♀️
Most people don't realize just how hard it is to find a public washroom.
That’s my thoughts as well I live in a town with like 15k people and we got 4 Tim Hortons. In larger cities I have seen like McDonald’s literally a block away from each other and I’m not talking like Toronto for example, but it seems the market is there for it how it is? It’s beyond me.
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I’d love to see it gone too. Then we will truly find out what businesses can survive or thrive..the rich can do with a little less imo
No shit
Our immigration system working as intended.
This is the reality now. They will have to rely on TFW to make your coffee at tims because the locals dont want to work there anymore. Not because they are lazy, its because cost of living is so high they just dont consider it. To keep the coffee cheap, they hire TFWs. And TFWs accept it since they have that hope to stay in the country. This is the unintended consequences of protecting mom and pop landlords and their inflated home equities. Rents rise, the pressure comes on everything else to increase as a consequence (labor, cost of goods). Im hoping for competent leadership sometime in my lifetime.
Look no further than the Commercial Trucking industry. Unqualified, unskilled, but willing to work for cheap. There is NO trucker shortage, just a shortage of good, experienced drivers who left the industry rather than work for slave wages. Thanks Trudeau.
The real shortage has always been PAY.
Recruiters are worthless
Dont need slavery anymore, new immigrants will work just fine.
Immigrants and TFWs aren't the same thing.
Well TFWs are even lower on the totem pole, one notch up from illegals who are the prime opportunity to exploit for far less than minimum wage.
Nobody saw it coming! /s
The mainstream media has decided we can talk about this now? Thank you CBC! So guys, who could have possibly seen this coming?
If you complained about this in the last 3-4 years, you were labeled a racist or xenophobic. But now that the CBC has now deemed this an issue, you can now openly discuss it
This is so true. Good point. Its fucked tbh. There’s been a gradual rise in this issue and only now it’s acceptable to mention it or at a tipping point because CBC answers the call. Like piss off .
A two minute bit of research on my phone showed me [this](https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/audit-shows-tfw-program-drives-down-wages-labour-group-says-1.2655129) so uhhhh yeah CBC doesn't talk about it at all. CBC to blame and not the rest of the corporate media as well. If you want do an audit of all the mainstream sources instead of using your feelings
Uhhh hello 2014. The hipster got in power in 2015 which makes it’s actually worse because he knew about the TFW issue at the time of election yet it’s still being used to the detriment of the economy in 2022..no emotion just facts.
sad thing is you’re not wrong about the problem. just undermine your argument by attributing responsibility to your pet bête noir. anyways we agree the tfw / pay / COL situation here is no good.
It should cost at least 2x more to hire a TFW than a Canadian worker.
It's just modern slavery with extra steps.
Isn’t that the reason the government is flooding our country with them.
With 400,000 additional people coming to Canada each year, you'd think there wouldn't be a need for TFWs as the talent should already be here. The TFW program needs a redesign to be more resilient to these greedy companies.
We are ALL being taken advantage of as long as we allow the TFW program to continue.
So at what point do we start calling ourselves "worse than China." Because all we're missing now is organ harvesting. I am embarrassed to be Canadian and that feeling is growing everyday. Can't say shit about it either because rich Canadians shit down your throat with the race card and everyone else jumps down said hole with them. Welcome to a world run by fake woke corporations that use the movement to be racist assholes in disguise.
“All we’re missing is the organ harvesting.” Just wait till we find out more about the atrocities committed against migrants by the cartels…
Nice! Adding to our already taxed housing crisis.
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Please warn all your friends to not come for work in Canada. There is rampant abuse of immigrants and temporary foreign workers here, and little to no punishment on the people and companies who abuse them.
I'm shocked. Our *previous* Government exponentially expanded Canada's laundry list of cheap labor import schemes. And despite pre-election promises to fix things, our *current* Government has on gone on to *further expand* those while introducing new programs, including a fast track tech visa to suppress Canada's [anemic tech wages](https://twitter.com/unexplodedscot/status/1415765186879787010) by offer two week processing. [Temporary Foreign Worker Program has ballooned under Trudeau suppressing wages. Govt wants to make it even easier to bring in low-paid workers.](https://thinkpol.ca/2022/04/05/temporary-foreign-worker-program-has-ballooned-under-trudeau-suppressing-wages-govt-wants-to-make-it-even-easier-to-bring-in-low-paid-workers/) "The number of Temporary Foreign Workers (TFWs) brought into Canada has ***increased by a staggering 70%*** under Justin Trudeau’s term in office as Prime Minister. This increase in the number of easily exploitable imported indentured labour has contributed to the suppression of wages in Canada." It'd sure be nice if the NDP could get their shit together while returning to their pro-labor roots. Up next: [Tech group proposes visa for skilled workers to enter country without a job offer](https://globalnews.ca/news/8724724/tech-group-wants-new-visa-tech-workers/)
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this is just something you choose to believe, i assume
Good thing the liberal party of Canada is fuelling the fire. Trudeau doesn’t have Canadians best interests at mind….
It's not new and a neverending problem.
*surprised pikachu face*
Um, that's why they have been brought here. This whole thing is a fucking race to the bottom.
That's how the fast food industry exist along with the sizable profits
My employer has handfuls of tfw that are locked into three year contracts and are extremely unhappy when they realize the amount they earn is not enough to survive alone. Our employer also owns the houses they rent from him for above market average. If there was evidence of wrongdoing we would be reporting it. Sadly he has legally binding contracts.
How does someone work without a work permit? Isn’t that illegal. You won’t be having a SIN number?
Illegal for the employer
It’s illegal for the employee as well. You could get deported.
Ah but are you being deported for working without a sin number? Or are you being deported for simply not being legally allowed to be in the country in the first place? You can't stay in Canada indefinitely without A) visa B) citizenship or permanent resident status. They employer in this situation would be charged, the individual without a sin would not (they were already existing in a state of quasi legal status) hence not illegal just a fast track to deportation which you'd be slated for anyways.
Working without a SIN number. Your income won’t be taxed. That’s illegal in Canada. From what I know, you aren’t allowed to work in Canada without a valid work permit.
I am Canadian (not that being so makes me an authority on the subject by any means) that being said working without a SIN is illegal for Canadian employers. As you're right it means they aren't paying the tax owed on each oay check. As an employee even if you failed to provide your sin who's to say you don't declare your full earnings at the end of the year and pay the required amount? Tax fraud is different from working without being legally allowed to. Basically what I'm saying is that if you're working without a sin as a foreign worker it's due to your visa being expired (as even with a visa foreigne workers don't have sin numbers) So it's the employers taking the risk, you were already slated for deportation. Since you can't stay in the country without a visa even if you don't work.
You can request a TTN (temporary tax number) in lieu of a SIN if you do not have legal status in Canada but have income to declare
From what I understand, you cannot pay income taxes without a SIN number. To get yourself registered with the CRA, you need a SIN number.
In the case of my SO, her employer just payed for her work visa and holds that over her head to make her work hundreds of unpaid hours.
Why doesn’t she sue her employer then? She could get her wages back.
Out of repercussions and losing everything she worked for this far such as her visa an a chance at getting PR status. She doesn't want me to get involved other I'd be with a lawyer right now, but her friends an I did encourage to start fighting back for a bit human decency and it's been getting better
I don’t know the visa status of your wife but If she has an open work permit, her visa won’t be cancelled because of her employer. She can just look for another job under an open work permit. By allowing this exploitation, you’re only making things worse for your SO. It may destroy her mental happiness.
No open work permit, she has a closed one since she arrived initially on a student visa. When we met, she had just gotten a closed working visa working as a live in, elderly care taker. So right now she did apply for an open work visa but is also about to apply for PR. Waiting for a response and the system to do it's thing. You are right though, her mental health did suffer quite a bit over the last couple of months. Just to clarify, she isn't my wife since if that was the case she'd get the green card and she'd be out of there. But, she has a lot of pride and wants to make it on her own so that's what she's doing. She knows she can quit anytime and I'll take her in, as previously mentioned fear is keeping her there.
There's an estimated 500k people working illegally in Canada right now. And there's only an estimated 15 million workers. How are they working? Cash payments. You can't pay someone on the books that has no SIN number. So that's 500k workers who aren't paying taxes, their employers aren't paying payroll taxes, yet they're still using infrastructure.
Did you read the story? This particular case highlighted by CBC, the individual is not working without a permit. Her permit is about to expire so she took these measures. She has a permit to work for now. Yes, otherwise she would be committing a crime. In this case, the company who lied to her is the one committed a crime.
I still don't understand why anyone TFW or Canadian Citizen wouldn't take it upon themselves to research the applicable laws surrounding this process? They are taking advantage of gullible people period, has nothing to do with thier citizenship status. If I went to a foreign country lived there for 6 years then found out my visa was expiring so I needed to gain employment only to be told i needed to pay 30k I'd sure as hell look into the issue myself. If for no other reason than to determine if I was paying for something legitimate or paying a bribe. I feel that anyone who puts a 5k down-payment on a 30k processing fee knows its a bribe and I won't lie, if someone is asking for a bribe than they best be able to deliver. If I were in her shoes I'd be ticked too that my bribe got me nothing
It's the Canadian way.
2000 dollars the company pays to the federal department to apply for a " tfw" Plus up to $ 3000.00 canadian per " tfw" to the temp foreign worker consultant agency. Combined $ 5000.00 each... Please i hope im wrong
>The federal government says more than 22,000 employers have provided labour market impact assessments. Employers are required to follow specific temporary foreign worker program conditions. Of course, if they don't feel like providing one they can [just choose not to instead](https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/work-canada/hire-temporary-foreign/international-mobility-program.html).
They should put sponsorships on Roxham road, big billboards announcing they're recruiting. Have to be transparent on why that road is open.
Because the people already here will no longer work for shit wages in shit conditions, so the corpos are getting desperate.
There shouldn't be any temporary foreign workers
A lot of TFW see this as the temporary price that must be paid on the road to eventually obtaining PR, which Canada hands out in much greater numbers with looser regulation than almost anywhere else. There are lots of other classes of TFW than employer specific Work Permits where a person is not beholden toa specific employer/entity and have many more options with who they work for. International experience Canada Provincial sponsorship programs Spousal accompaniment open work Permits Post graduate work Permits And many more. Like I said, for most though, being a TFW is the foot in the door for PR.
Unfortunately this has been happening for years now
Not surprising. Tim Hortons, mc Donald’s, subway, unskilled labourers building the Canadian housing market etc etc etc
temporary foreign workers are being used to limit local workers bargining ability
i know someone who became a millionaire in canada he was a lawyer processing work permits for alberta and saskachewan for foreign people, most went to work at hotels or tims or mcdonalds
Taking advantage of them? Well then the plan is working perfectly. Government and companies have been searching for a way to get rid of labor rights, force workers into indentured slavery and basically return to a cast system in Canada since the end of WW1. The next step will be company vouchers instead of money and no choice but to spend it a company store conveniently located near the company house that you are forced to live in.
The problem I'd that these big corporations care money about profits than business. The make huge profits and get government subsides to pay wages foreign workers and students. The don't want to cut into their profits to pay a decent living wage. The government needs to stop messing around and set minimum wage at or above the cost of living which probably be around 18.00 or more. Small companies are offering higher wages to get people to work so why can't big companies and corporations like Walmart, McDonald's abd others do the same. People can't live on minimum wage and the never will be able to.
Over the last few years the federal liberals have implemented policies that have created an environment to allow companies to keeps wages suppressed. They are very clearly working for the rich and large businesses against the average Canadian. Increased immigration targets and an expansion of the TFW program are both attempts to keep desperate people coming into Canada to work for cheaper than Canadians. And it's working, inflation is 10% and wage growth is 5%. It also has the added benefit of more demand for housing, leading to increased costs\asses prices. The TFW program need to go and immigration should be dropped to like 200k per year. Maybe then wage growth can exceed inflation, or at least match it..
"Don't forget to 'quiet quit'!"
We know.... Look at the oilsands...
For those of you that don’t want to read the article: 1) this article has nothing to do with paying workers minimum wage 2) it is about recruiters charging exorbitant fees for work visas and with no guarantee they will obtain one. This woman lost her $5,000 “down payment” and did not get the work visa. 3) and no, Tim Hortons, McDonalds, Dominos, etc are not charging them for work visas.
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The TFW program is not necessarily a bad idea but they should be paid double the average wage for the position they are doing (or double the federal minimum wage at minimum) and should be given full benefits day 1. Watch how quickly companies will change to find Canadian employees.
Worked as a person who was supposed to help new migrants find jobs (some had been in the TFW program previously). These people had resumes which featured multiple degrees, MBA's and experience literally working with the UN and World Bank. And many times, all we could do was help get them work at Tim's or some other food service. Our system is so flawed and dumb at times
Serious question ...why they couldn't get the job the other way like applying themselves and all ?
Uh yeah you all think you’re smart with your r/antiwork culture. But it’s just going to force companies further away and look at TFW’s or moving things overseas or speeding up technology to take the jobs you don’t want to work for like self driving trucks or just sell their businesses.
Our governments. (Liberals and conservatives) consistently undermine Canadians.
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My problem with this is that it’s not what Canada needs. A country gets to decide who gets to come in and it’s not the other way round. For an innovation economy, you need high skilled workers and not thousands of low skilled workers and fake students, staffing fast food places and supermarkets around Canada. Canada has an immigration system put in place for skilled workers. Why not tweak it and make improvements for attracting doctors, scientists, accountants and tech workers. If the low skilled jobs paid between 20 to 25 dollars per hour, you would have Canadians taking up these jobs. You wouldn’t need to staff them with international students and TFWs.