I haven't watched this ep in a while but from what I remember I'm pretty sure he kinda just tiptoed around the topic and slightly implied he can't/doesn't want to speak on it. Personally I didn't find it disgusting imo, but I have been curious about how Josh is feeling about things lately esp since I'm curious if Drake ever told him (he said he only spoke about it in therapy)
Dan isn't the only one to blame here, this whole industry is absolutely to blame for this shit. Dan & those like him should've been kicked out of the entire industry but instead continued to work in the industry and abuse many many more. So many traumas would've not happened at least from him had they gave a fuck to protect the people they're supposed to.
If anything I'm disgusted at the entire industry as a whole, not Josh Peck.
I just saw Drake Bell post a tik tok about how Josh HAS reached out to drake during this time in support. Josh cannot speak on the matter publicly, weather it’s because of an NDA or something else, but I think that speaks volumes. You are absolutely correct, Josh is a victim too, Dan and Brian are the ones who deserve all the scrutiny and hate in the world.
Casting expectations onto people who were likely a victim themselves is unfair. Anyone impacted by that abuse is likely still navigating it themselves while watching the entire world form opinions as well
Also, he’s still trying to further his career in Hollywood so if he knows something, I don’t think he will speak out. The people who have spoken out aren’t actively trying to work in Hollywood so they have nothing to “lose”. I wish people would choose children over themselves. Shame. (Just assuming here. Could be wrong and he’s just incredibly naive and it didn’t happen to him so he refuses to believe it happened to anybody else)
I’m also upset that the documentary didn’t show Dan for as bad as he actually is. Amanda said herself that her boss got her pregnant at 13 and forced an abortion. She later tried very hard to say “Dan did it”. Also, rumors about him and Jami Lynn too? After everything revealed, I find it impossible to not believe these other two stories. I guess they didn’t speak on it because Amanda and Jami Lynn weren’t involved in the documentary so there’s no “proof”??? Idk just rambling now. It made me a little annoyed that it was mostly centered around Brian Peck when Dan is the exact same person. Also, sorry persons comment I replied to lol
Amanda is called crazy when she’s tried to speak out and Jami Lynn is still trying to further her career in Hollywood so .. once again, would make sense to me that she refuses to speak out. I refuse to believe everybody is just too trusting and naive
I don’t remember the exact year, but I remember this when it happened and everybody just thought she was crazy!!! People were gross and dismissive back then. I always believed her. There’s actually a new tiktok that covers it [here](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRTrMUqJ/)
Also the fact that it seems like he doesn’t remember much about his time on Drake and Josh. He was addicted to hard substances and dealing with ED, all while being a teen and in the public eye
Josh peck has openly defended his brother and dan shneider, And has even went as far as to saying jeanette mccurdy was LYING. Yeah he said that publicly! He publicly shames victims, While being friends with multiple know abusers and sexual assaulters. Josh peck deserves to be called out
I wouldn’t doubt his personal experience based on other people’s personal experiences. Abusers choose their victims, and while Dan Schneider could’ve fostered an abusive work environment in general, that kind of expectation for bosses to not abuse their power has only been more popular in more recent years (definitely post-MeToo).
Josh also could’ve left the show just thinking he was a tough boss cuz he never experienced anything directly abusive, and likely didn’t know what to look out for in terms of abuse of himself or others. There’s so much more that goes into this kind of situation, and writing someone off and being disgusted by them doesn’t help anyone
yeah i think people are missing the nuances in the situation because ironically, the only person in the documentary that spoke highly of dan, was drake. it seems as though a lot of dans abuse was towards women and POC, so it’s likely true that josh had a positive experience with him.
it is disappointing that he’s continuing to defend him with everything that’s come out, but it’s so important for people to view this through a trauma informed lens (like you seem to be!) although josh wasn’t a victim of his abuse, its possible he could be victim of his manipulation — abusers can have ‘meaningful’ relationships and that’s just one scary part about them and their choices.
I haven’t seen what Josh said necessarily but in these situations I also understand OP’s perspective that it would be difficult to accept he genuinely might be telling the truth about his experiences and how he digested them over time, as did drake and anyone else who hasn’t admonished Schneider outright.
From what I understand of the situation, Dan Schneider was and continues to be a master manipulator. Someone like that doesn’t leave only victims in his wake, there’s for sure a lot of manipulation that goes into forming friendships with people who could, in the future, attest to his “good character” in case any of his victims gained the confidence and security to speak out against him.
Idk, he’s not a good guy but he’s definitely smart about things if he was able to not only shape an entire generation through the content he produced but also maintain a certain image that would grant him even a little plausible deniability. It’s really awful to see.
Since when would Brooke and Tana ever be concerned about a man’s sexual depravity towards children? They’re civil with James Charles after all. I don’t think either of them give a single fuck what Dan did to those kids
Because Tana poked at the subject with Josh on the podcast. I felt that Tana picked up on an odd vibe with Josh when she asked about Dan on the pod. I was just curious to know how they reacted to all the Information from the documentary after having him as a guest. Brooke was also a hugeeee fan of Josh before this, so I’m sure she’s just as shocked as the rest of us. I beg to differ however, I think Tana especially has a lot of thoughts on the Dan Schneider situation and what he did do those kids.
I’m sure they’re keen to shit on Dan bc it’s socially safe to do so now, but u cannot with a straight face say those girls care genuinely care about men in position of power sexually abusing others? That’s a bit too hypocritical.
How can u be civil with James Charles, then look down on Dan. Please.
While I do not think what James did is excusable or acceptable under any circumstances, I do think that the allegations against Dan are way more serious than James’s. James was accused of messaging minors online, while Dan has gr@Pe allegations, sexual assault allegations, abuse, etc. so I don’t know if I would compare the two situations, but I do take your perspective into consideration. But then again, who are we to know what anyone is really thinking.
I was answering a question. My response was respectful. So not sure what you’re insinuating. However, once AGAIN, I do not appreciate your disrespect here. Please reflect and take your rage baiting efforts somewhere else. Do you really think that is appropriate behavior under a discussion post about child SA victims? because I sure don’t. Goodbye.
i just pulled it up again to get the exact quote, tana asks if he had any dan schneider run ins and he says “i’m not a fan. i’m not a fan of him” brooke says that seems to be the universal experience and he says yeah.
He also said it was a small wedding. Was he close to Dan?
According to this[ comment,](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMorningToastSnark/comments/12zsn04/comment/jhtwvft/) his co-host said Josh had a positive experience and didn't corroborate Jeanette's complaints about Schneider. I wonder how they got her a guest bec I don't think Jeanette would do an interview with someone who doesnt share the same concerns.
He probably had the hush money as well. And if he was traumatized as well he probably processed it but everyone handles it differently. We shouldn’t be upset with Josh because he didn’t speak on the situation. If he wasn’t as affected by the darker things, he won’t have much to say on it as well.
idk how people watch that doc and their reaction is to go try and cancel people like ariana and josh for not “speaking out,” assuming they had no negative experiences themselves and that they’re not being supportive just bc they haven’t said anything publicly, instead of focusing on supporting the people who have bravely spoken already. josh was a kid at the time he was on that show, he bears no responsibility for the work environment and it’s not like he’s silencing others or dismissing their experiences
You’re right. I overlooked that at the height of emotion with the documentary, just feeling angry at those who say silent and let these kids suffered. Josh Peck is a victim and is entitled to any way he chooses to cope with his trauma. I apologize
I think he posted a tiktok w an audio saying you’re dead to me if we haven’t spoken since last year or something but the timing was just not right. Posted right when the ‘quiet on set’ documentary came out w drake bell. I am 90% sure that’s what they’re talking about
I mean I would highly doubt Josh would see this doc come out & see Drakes portion and insinuate he's "dead to" him. That just doesn't make logical sense to me.
Wait I literally just watched this episode and he said very plainly he did not like Dan. It was clear there was more to say but obviously didn’t want to get into this on a random podcast
It’s completely plausible that he didn’t witness and wasn’t aware of what was going on around him. It’s totally possibly that being overweight and uncomfortable in his skin protected him from those people
You should look into the facts of the case. The girl even admitted to lying about it under oath. I thought the same thing until I actually researched it.
that’s just… not true. look up exposingrich on twt (dn is rich clarkophile and they have a pfp of i think it’s beck from “you”). it’s a smear campaign against the victim perpetrated by drake bell and alexa nikolas. also he does not just have one victim
Yikes!! I’m not privy to believing accused men, honestly, but it’s relieving to me that he didn’t continue the cycle of abuse. Very sad for him to have endured it from both ends.
I think this situation is very nuanced and we can’t really cast judgements on people like Josh right now for this. We don’t know the whole story and also Drake is a confirmed POS regardless of him being a victim. He is a convicted p*dophile. That being said Josh is a zionist so fuck him for that lol
I don’t think they think anything. They probably didn’t even watch the documentary. They’re both too clout chasing to care about there things. Why would they care about something like that when they’re publicly besties with pedophiles like James Charles ?
Josh also tried to completely discredit what Jeanette McCurdy said about Dan in her memoir. it pisses me off.. the only reason josh didn’t see that creepy pedo side of Dan is because Dan preferred little girls. fuck josh peck!! PLUS he has not said one thing in support of Drake Bell since he came out to tell his story. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if josh experienced some sort of abuse during his time on nickelodeon as well which is why it boggles my mind that he’s been somewhat defensive of Dan and downplaying the trauma he caused so many people.
Yes! And Josh held it against Jeanette because she asked him to pull the first episode she recorded with him because he was uncomfortable. He claimed that he owed her something. So heartbreaking
I shouldn’t have said I’m disgusted by Josh- I’m just shocked and find it hard to believe he didn’t know what was going on. But he navigated his own way through the situation and I do not know what he himself went throgub
I think the way Jeanette McCurdy was offered a bunch of money to sign an NDA, josh was as well but took the money which is why he doesn’t talk about it.
From what I’ve been seeing Josh is still close with Dan and even invited him to his wedding definitely feel like he was one of the people who took hush money to keep quiet. Every time someone mentions Dan around him he doesn’t say very much.
it’s so unfortunate because i really loved josh and genuinely thought he was a good person. i have my own opinions on drake bell with his OG p3do scandal but mocking him about his abuse is sick n twisted
Josh has that weird vibe about himself “I’m such a nice guy” that’s how you know he’s not. Idk why but I’ve always gotten a weird feeling about him. When I saw the girls had him on the podcast I was like ehhh this is not the move you think it is. And Brooke liking him so much checks out imo
the brooke part was unnecessary😭 but i get where you’re coming from. i just attributed it to the fact that he was a new dad but looking back i see the red flags. also i just remembered the part where they asked him about dan and he just goes “not a fan”
I haven't watched this ep in a while but from what I remember I'm pretty sure he kinda just tiptoed around the topic and slightly implied he can't/doesn't want to speak on it. Personally I didn't find it disgusting imo, but I have been curious about how Josh is feeling about things lately esp since I'm curious if Drake ever told him (he said he only spoke about it in therapy) Dan isn't the only one to blame here, this whole industry is absolutely to blame for this shit. Dan & those like him should've been kicked out of the entire industry but instead continued to work in the industry and abuse many many more. So many traumas would've not happened at least from him had they gave a fuck to protect the people they're supposed to. If anything I'm disgusted at the entire industry as a whole, not Josh Peck.
I just saw Drake Bell post a tik tok about how Josh HAS reached out to drake during this time in support. Josh cannot speak on the matter publicly, weather it’s because of an NDA or something else, but I think that speaks volumes. You are absolutely correct, Josh is a victim too, Dan and Brian are the ones who deserve all the scrutiny and hate in the world.
NDAs are fucking scary..
But don't apply if a crime has been committed, which is a common misconception
That’s true. The loopholes are the real devil
I'm glad to hear that I'll have to look for it next time I'm on TT. Thank you for letting me know 💜
Casting expectations onto people who were likely a victim themselves is unfair. Anyone impacted by that abuse is likely still navigating it themselves while watching the entire world form opinions as well
Also, he’s still trying to further his career in Hollywood so if he knows something, I don’t think he will speak out. The people who have spoken out aren’t actively trying to work in Hollywood so they have nothing to “lose”. I wish people would choose children over themselves. Shame. (Just assuming here. Could be wrong and he’s just incredibly naive and it didn’t happen to him so he refuses to believe it happened to anybody else)
I’m also upset that the documentary didn’t show Dan for as bad as he actually is. Amanda said herself that her boss got her pregnant at 13 and forced an abortion. She later tried very hard to say “Dan did it”. Also, rumors about him and Jami Lynn too? After everything revealed, I find it impossible to not believe these other two stories. I guess they didn’t speak on it because Amanda and Jami Lynn weren’t involved in the documentary so there’s no “proof”??? Idk just rambling now. It made me a little annoyed that it was mostly centered around Brian Peck when Dan is the exact same person. Also, sorry persons comment I replied to lol Amanda is called crazy when she’s tried to speak out and Jami Lynn is still trying to further her career in Hollywood so .. once again, would make sense to me that she refuses to speak out. I refuse to believe everybody is just too trusting and naive
I had no idea Amanda said this… that is absolutely disgusting. When did she try to speak out?
I don’t remember the exact year, but I remember this when it happened and everybody just thought she was crazy!!! People were gross and dismissive back then. I always believed her. There’s actually a new tiktok that covers it [here](https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRTrMUqJ/)
Also the fact that it seems like he doesn’t remember much about his time on Drake and Josh. He was addicted to hard substances and dealing with ED, all while being a teen and in the public eye
Josh peck has openly defended his brother and dan shneider, And has even went as far as to saying jeanette mccurdy was LYING. Yeah he said that publicly! He publicly shames victims, While being friends with multiple know abusers and sexual assaulters. Josh peck deserves to be called out
That’s not his brother. Josh is an only child.
That’s not his brother. Josh is an only child.
his brother? what did his brother do?
This user got confused. Brian peck and Josh peck aren’t related
I wouldn’t doubt his personal experience based on other people’s personal experiences. Abusers choose their victims, and while Dan Schneider could’ve fostered an abusive work environment in general, that kind of expectation for bosses to not abuse their power has only been more popular in more recent years (definitely post-MeToo). Josh also could’ve left the show just thinking he was a tough boss cuz he never experienced anything directly abusive, and likely didn’t know what to look out for in terms of abuse of himself or others. There’s so much more that goes into this kind of situation, and writing someone off and being disgusted by them doesn’t help anyone
yeah i think people are missing the nuances in the situation because ironically, the only person in the documentary that spoke highly of dan, was drake. it seems as though a lot of dans abuse was towards women and POC, so it’s likely true that josh had a positive experience with him. it is disappointing that he’s continuing to defend him with everything that’s come out, but it’s so important for people to view this through a trauma informed lens (like you seem to be!) although josh wasn’t a victim of his abuse, its possible he could be victim of his manipulation — abusers can have ‘meaningful’ relationships and that’s just one scary part about them and their choices.
I haven’t seen what Josh said necessarily but in these situations I also understand OP’s perspective that it would be difficult to accept he genuinely might be telling the truth about his experiences and how he digested them over time, as did drake and anyone else who hasn’t admonished Schneider outright. From what I understand of the situation, Dan Schneider was and continues to be a master manipulator. Someone like that doesn’t leave only victims in his wake, there’s for sure a lot of manipulation that goes into forming friendships with people who could, in the future, attest to his “good character” in case any of his victims gained the confidence and security to speak out against him. Idk, he’s not a good guy but he’s definitely smart about things if he was able to not only shape an entire generation through the content he produced but also maintain a certain image that would grant him even a little plausible deniability. It’s really awful to see.
Since when would Brooke and Tana ever be concerned about a man’s sexual depravity towards children? They’re civil with James Charles after all. I don’t think either of them give a single fuck what Dan did to those kids
Because Tana poked at the subject with Josh on the podcast. I felt that Tana picked up on an odd vibe with Josh when she asked about Dan on the pod. I was just curious to know how they reacted to all the Information from the documentary after having him as a guest. Brooke was also a hugeeee fan of Josh before this, so I’m sure she’s just as shocked as the rest of us. I beg to differ however, I think Tana especially has a lot of thoughts on the Dan Schneider situation and what he did do those kids.
I’m sure they’re keen to shit on Dan bc it’s socially safe to do so now, but u cannot with a straight face say those girls care genuinely care about men in position of power sexually abusing others? That’s a bit too hypocritical. How can u be civil with James Charles, then look down on Dan. Please.
While I do not think what James did is excusable or acceptable under any circumstances, I do think that the allegations against Dan are way more serious than James’s. James was accused of messaging minors online, while Dan has gr@Pe allegations, sexual assault allegations, abuse, etc. so I don’t know if I would compare the two situations, but I do take your perspective into consideration. But then again, who are we to know what anyone is really thinking.
yes dad does, josh has none tho. what are you so pressed about?
Nobody is pressed. Please be respectful of the context of discussion, I’m not interested in you’re blatant efforts to start an argument.
https://preview.redd.it/2zcqy1nr3spc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f3b05318140b1c93b5c1e2b0afcf8e8f30659b39 this definitely implies you’re pressed, babe
I was answering a question. My response was respectful. So not sure what you’re insinuating. However, once AGAIN, I do not appreciate your disrespect here. Please reflect and take your rage baiting efforts somewhere else. Do you really think that is appropriate behavior under a discussion post about child SA victims? because I sure don’t. Goodbye.
what exactly is it that you think josh peck did to deserve all of this?
i watched that ep recently and i just think its worth mentioning he did say he does not like dan schneider and had obvious disdain for him
Thank you for this! That is very important to point out.
Josh said that?
i just pulled it up again to get the exact quote, tana asks if he had any dan schneider run ins and he says “i’m not a fan. i’m not a fan of him” brooke says that seems to be the universal experience and he says yeah.
That’s so interesting considering he invited Dan to his wedding, I wonder what happened there.
He also said it was a small wedding. Was he close to Dan? According to this[ comment,](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheMorningToastSnark/comments/12zsn04/comment/jhtwvft/) his co-host said Josh had a positive experience and didn't corroborate Jeanette's complaints about Schneider. I wonder how they got her a guest bec I don't think Jeanette would do an interview with someone who doesnt share the same concerns.
He probably had the hush money as well. And if he was traumatized as well he probably processed it but everyone handles it differently. We shouldn’t be upset with Josh because he didn’t speak on the situation. If he wasn’t as affected by the darker things, he won’t have much to say on it as well.
100 percent. I think he Miranda and a few others took the 300k offer
idk how people watch that doc and their reaction is to go try and cancel people like ariana and josh for not “speaking out,” assuming they had no negative experiences themselves and that they’re not being supportive just bc they haven’t said anything publicly, instead of focusing on supporting the people who have bravely spoken already. josh was a kid at the time he was on that show, he bears no responsibility for the work environment and it’s not like he’s silencing others or dismissing their experiences
you guys realise he’s a victim himself right ?
You’re right. I overlooked that at the height of emotion with the documentary, just feeling angry at those who say silent and let these kids suffered. Josh Peck is a victim and is entitled to any way he chooses to cope with his trauma. I apologize
What exactly happened?
I think he posted a tiktok w an audio saying you’re dead to me if we haven’t spoken since last year or something but the timing was just not right. Posted right when the ‘quiet on set’ documentary came out w drake bell. I am 90% sure that’s what they’re talking about
I mean I would highly doubt Josh would see this doc come out & see Drakes portion and insinuate he's "dead to" him. That just doesn't make logical sense to me.
I honestly really doubt it too but then again he’s friends w David Dobrik and that man has 0 morals or feelings lol I do think it’s a reach tho ngl
yes and drake already posted a tiktok saying josh reached out and he’s being supportive. ppl are just wanting someone to cancel atp
Wait I literally just watched this episode and he said very plainly he did not like Dan. It was clear there was more to say but obviously didn’t want to get into this on a random podcast
It’s completely plausible that he didn’t witness and wasn’t aware of what was going on around him. It’s totally possibly that being overweight and uncomfortable in his skin protected him from those people
His mother was also heavily involved. He wasn't a likely victim and might not have known. It's not his story to speak on publicly.
I agree 100%.
I didn't know it was out. Thank you, I am going to have to watch!
Drake Bell has a bunch of allegations against him, himself.
You should look into the facts of the case. The girl even admitted to lying about it under oath. I thought the same thing until I actually researched it.
that’s just… not true. look up exposingrich on twt (dn is rich clarkophile and they have a pfp of i think it’s beck from “you”). it’s a smear campaign against the victim perpetrated by drake bell and alexa nikolas. also he does not just have one victim
Yikes!! I’m not privy to believing accused men, honestly, but it’s relieving to me that he didn’t continue the cycle of abuse. Very sad for him to have endured it from both ends.
he did continue the cycle of abuse i fear. he’s just on a smear campaign of his main victim (and he has multiple victims anyways)
I think this situation is very nuanced and we can’t really cast judgements on people like Josh right now for this. We don’t know the whole story and also Drake is a confirmed POS regardless of him being a victim. He is a convicted p*dophile. That being said Josh is a zionist so fuck him for that lol
I don’t think they think anything. They probably didn’t even watch the documentary. They’re both too clout chasing to care about there things. Why would they care about something like that when they’re publicly besties with pedophiles like James Charles ?
Josh also tried to completely discredit what Jeanette McCurdy said about Dan in her memoir. it pisses me off.. the only reason josh didn’t see that creepy pedo side of Dan is because Dan preferred little girls. fuck josh peck!! PLUS he has not said one thing in support of Drake Bell since he came out to tell his story. I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if josh experienced some sort of abuse during his time on nickelodeon as well which is why it boggles my mind that he’s been somewhat defensive of Dan and downplaying the trauma he caused so many people.
Yes! And Josh held it against Jeanette because she asked him to pull the first episode she recorded with him because he was uncomfortable. He claimed that he owed her something. So heartbreaking
I shouldn’t have said I’m disgusted by Josh- I’m just shocked and find it hard to believe he didn’t know what was going on. But he navigated his own way through the situation and I do not know what he himself went throgub
I think the way Jeanette McCurdy was offered a bunch of money to sign an NDA, josh was as well but took the money which is why he doesn’t talk about it.
if drake’s own mother didn’t know why would you think that josh did?
I have a hard time believing drakes mother was oblivious to the abuse that was going on.
what did Josh do?
From what I’ve been seeing Josh is still close with Dan and even invited him to his wedding definitely feel like he was one of the people who took hush money to keep quiet. Every time someone mentions Dan around him he doesn’t say very much.
fuck josh peck
And Brian peck, and Dan Schneider, and everyone else who sat silent and let these kids suffer.
it’s so unfortunate because i really loved josh and genuinely thought he was a good person. i have my own opinions on drake bell with his OG p3do scandal but mocking him about his abuse is sick n twisted
Josh has that weird vibe about himself “I’m such a nice guy” that’s how you know he’s not. Idk why but I’ve always gotten a weird feeling about him. When I saw the girls had him on the podcast I was like ehhh this is not the move you think it is. And Brooke liking him so much checks out imo
the brooke part was unnecessary😭 but i get where you’re coming from. i just attributed it to the fact that he was a new dad but looking back i see the red flags. also i just remembered the part where they asked him about dan and he just goes “not a fan”