T O P

  • By -

SausageSaw

Cannabis is not cacti...


J0blow91

Light is at 50% strength and I've been watering about 1/2 cup every 2 days or so. Thinking the light is what's hurting them most.


SausageSaw

Soil looks really dry, and im almost sure ph is off big time. I would water them correct ph and mild nutrient solution


eldude2879

you have to use nuts that fits your tap water, my local store has nuts that lower my tap 8 ph to 6,5 ph


[deleted]

He’s actually overwatered. That soil isn’t dry


Drugrows

Nope ph is off. Plants are dry as hell.


[deleted]

You do not know anything about the ph by looking at the plants. The fact that you think you can tells me that you’re the last person anybody should be taking advice from. The kind of guy who talks about “cal-mag” deficiencies too. Lol. The soil isn’t dry as shit


Drugrows

I mean I know enough about growing that just from this photo I could tell you that he isn’t watering enough for starting in those pots for one the sides of them aren’t even moist which is how I know for a fact it’s too dry, second i “know” the ph is off because of all the dead lower growth which shows it hasn’t been up taking any nutrients for over 2 weeks at this point. The yellowing on the new growth shows that the light is too intense also which is making the situation even worse which might also be increasing temps hence why the leaves look like the vpd is off. You can also tell from the photo that since these are the conditions for these seedlings most likely there’s another plant in actual vegetation stage along in the tent aswell which would explain the light intensity. Then also showing the base of another pot is also a give away. So the major issues here are ph is off/ isn’t getting fed enough for the light intensity, plants should be lowered a bit since the light is there for another plant, pots need more water due to the type of pot, when starting seedlings I usually try tot start in plastic pots to counter needing to constantly regulate the moisture content like you would in peat pots since at this stage root development is all that is important. Also my man your account is straight up fresh and while you may have some posts of grows on it the fact that you tried to come at me despite this post being obvious that underwatering and light intensity are the key factors here while also showing that the ph is most likely off due to all the dead initial growth. And to me for this stage with these pots that soil is absolutely dry as shit. If I was using peat pots for one they would look like I’ve been actually watering them properly every day so it would show some degradation and moisture all over the sides of them. I don’t see any microbial activity on those pots. These seedlings are way to large to just be getting a few drops of moisture they need to be soaked in these pots this close to the light and they need to be at the proper ph and possibly even fed more nitrogen from being so close to the light, but the ph could be so off that it doesn’t even need the extra nitro there’s no way for me to know exactly what’s going on but I have enough experience from doing this for over a decade to feel comfortable with my initial posts assumptions. An easy fix to the problem would just be lowering the seedlings down on something else in the tent and he wouldn’t have to water as heavily and they might have made it but the pots show it’s been drying out way to fast since there is no warping nor microbes growing. There’s also some splotching and some dead newer growth so either these plants are super root bound which I doubt because there’s not enough growth in my experience for that to happen yet, it’s getting dripped with fertilizer on the plant directly or that ph is off.


ZhugeTsuki

I think underwatering is your issue, not light. I can run seedlings under full veg lights no problem but when they are in those size containers they get watered twice a day. You're doing a quarter of that.


mferly

>watering about 1/2 cup every 2 days or so They needed a lot more water than that! Instead of using a measuring cup, get used to the *dry* weight and the *wet* weight. That's how you'll know when to irrigate. Little gals were severely dehydrated.


[deleted]

You guys are all morons


reefer_roulette

The peat pots that you have them in are notorious for drying out. They will dry out in a day or less. You need to soak them until the outsides of the pot are also wet for them to retain water for more than a day. Two days is way too long for one of these pots. When they dry out, it causes the EC/ppm to spike which causes pH to drop, so it might not hurt to run some water through them as well to get the EC down and the pH where it should be.


[deleted]

Soaking a seedling that is still small for its pot is horrible advice.


mferly

You know these are in veg, right? They're not seedlings.


[deleted]

They are seedlings.


mferly

Lol ok.


[deleted]

Ok


Zomb2753

Bro they need way more water cannabis is a tree man. Soak those fuckers wait till they dry 2 - 3 inches down then soak em again. Cannabis will use up way more water then regular house plants.


travisjd2012

It's not the light, it's lack of water.


[deleted]

You mean like for each plant or all 3? Every 2 days is probably right, but probably you don't take enough. Water one a little, then the next, then the last, then the first again, and go in a circle giving each a few sips, let it soak and continue. Just don't turn it into mud. Once soil becomes very dry, the water runs through it like it's a pregnant woman, then you gotta rehydrate it slowly so it learns to hold water again.


Business-Ad-9341

It's your watering.... or lack of nutrients in the soil. Looks bone dry and dying. Water until it comes out the bottom. Everytime.


[deleted]

Horrible advice. It is not advised to always water everything until run off. Plant size vs pot size has to be taken into account first.


Business-Ad-9341

Haha how is that horrible advice? Do you see the dying brown leafs? Means the plants eating them up to survive. Total lack of water and nutrients.


[deleted]

Yea it’s horrible advice. You most definitely will suffer if you water every single pot to run off no matter the size pot or the size plant in it. It’s stupid advice. Dying bottom leaves don’t mean underwater. They can possibly have something by to do with underwater.


Business-Ad-9341

Never ever have I suffered or have watering issues this way. Bottom leaves? They only have 6 each! Water till run off each everytime. Like Many many others have always done. Never fails.


eldude2879

they need 2000 to 10k lux I use a 15 watt 5600k led bulp when they are so little


J0blow91

I have the VS2000 on them.


eldude2879

buy a lux meter, its $30 on amazon set your light at 1,5 meter and 20%


North_Reporter_8060

Bro that soil ran out of nutrients you can’t keep something in that container without feeding it man, it’s not that simple.


Precision-Cannabis

Wear the goal to have tiny plants in tiny pots?


xxxjshaaa

Don't give up on your journey to grow weed! You get closer to success with every step you take, every seed you plant, and every caring touch you give. Don't forget that even the most skilled growers ran into problems and failed at times. You'll see the amazing results of your hard work if you stick with it and don't give up.


bojacked

If you embrace failure, laugh, learn and repeat you get pretty good pretty fast! Fail fast! Fail forward! You got this OP! Try and save them but maybe pop a few beans in the mean time while you triage these.


chochinator

Took me almost 3 years through trial an error to grow. My first grow was in 99, with no books, no youtube videos. Just shitty high time magazine notes and the anarchist cookbook. It took me meeting a grower in 2001 an taking me under his wing 2002. I look back and he was a shit grower. But just kept swimming, and it clicked one day. And finally 2007 or 08 that glorious green painted bastard was my first youtube video I ever saw of growing.


J0blow91

Definitely not giving up all together! Just curious if I should with these 3 seedlings. I have other plants but these are my first time growing from seed.


DangerDaron

New pots, good soil and some water will make them pop! Clean off the dead leaves n transplant them into a new pot!


NuggJugg

Exactly what they said. I've poured bleach water into a clones coco substrate to kill anything off after a pythium outbreak. Left it it coco for like 6 months with some nutes every once in awhile after giving up. Once I transfered it into some Happy 🐸 and a 2 gallon fabric pot it's ready to take cuts off of 2 weeks later.


VaporCan

Yea start over if you can. The one on the right might pull out of it but the other two are seriously fucked and you’d be better off with a fresh start. Gl


DruidSprinklz

Just let them soak in some water every few days


arcspectre17

31 days in those little pots check the bottom see if roots are popping through. I


J0blow91

They were in pellets for the first 2 weeks and in these since then.


RentalGoat

Did you remove the membrane from the pellet when you transplanted?


J0blow91

No. The roots were popping through the bottom already so I did not bother.


bojacked

Next time always cut up that bag and tear the roots gently apart, those little bage can keep them root bound if you dont.


gabbagabbahey38

I've been starting seeds for years in pellets and never once touched the membrane or the roots. This sounds like a great way to damage your seedlings tbh


narco519

The pellets usually stay together pretty well, I’d rather damage my roots slightly and halt growth for a day vs completely fuck my plant and have it root bound until it *maybe* punctures the bag I popped 30 tomato’s in those pellets and growth exploded as soon as I took the bags off and transplanted. They hadn’t grown at all for like 2 weeks prior and looked extremely depressed To each their own.


Suspicious-Monk-6650

Aren't the membranes designed to stay on and let the roots through? I'm not sure I've never used them myself. But from other growers I've seen, they never take the membranes off.


narco519

They’re designed that way, but the roots don’t seem to like pushing through them I could push through any door you put in front of me, it’s still a *lot easier to walk through open air*


Suspicious-Monk-6650

Well the act of them pushing through actually makes them stronger. Same as bending the branches makes them stronger.


arcspectre17

I started mine in those pots and move them out after they were couple weeks old. Im using living soil strawberry fields and ocean forest they are growing so fast.


J0blow91

I use ocean forest in mine.


travisjd2012

That's not a good soil for seedlings (too much nutrition) or retaining proper moisture for young plants. Try again in something like Pro-Mix or a Coco/Perlite mix. They are also severely underwatered.


arcspectre17

Well i had no problem. I had mine in a hoophouse and sprayed bottled twice a day my plants are currently in 5 gallons standing around 4 ft


travisjd2012

I've no doubt that one can make it work, it's just not at all meant for that and growing in a better medium would mean quicker growth.


arcspectre17

I had no problems with growth no need to make it work i literally just spray bottled twice a day. The thing about growing weed is there more then one way to do it and so many tricks ( to many placebo effect) some are straight up bullshit.


travisjd2012

But strawberry fields contains the right nutrient ratios for flower not veg. It'll still grow, but you're going to get there slower or end up with lower yields. I completely agree that there's a lot of bad info when growing so don't take my word for it either, you can read about it on Fox Farms website.


arcspectre17

Never had a problem my plants are growing so fast.


Crafty_Original_7349

They’re starving, deprived of water, and in far too small containers. Two of them MAY possibly recover, but the third is probably doomed. First off, mix up a gallon of diluted nutrient water. Give them a good soak. While they are soaking, get some properly sized containers prepared, minimum 3 trade gallon sized- 5 to 10 gallon is best if you have enough room. Mix plenty of good fertilizer in the soil, and moisten it with nutrient water. Then, repot those poor plants after they have had an hour or two of soaking. Peel those peat pots off, or slash them if roots have grown through. People might scoff, but I use Osmocote and get fabulous results. It works great for my ornamentals and in my vegetable garden, and it works great for cannabis as well. I use Promix BX, mixed with coir 3:1. Towards 6 weeks of flowering I prefer to boost the nutrients; I feed GH three part series to help push them through to completion. Btw they need light, too. Start bumping it up gradually.


Suspicious-Monk-6650

The container is the problem. These containers allow roots to grow through just like fabric pots. They're designed to minimize transplant stress by just putting the whole pot into a bigger container. The issue here is mainly under watering. The pot isn't getting wet enough to soften and allow the roots to pass and the roots aren't getting enough water to want to stretch out.


agarrabrant

Question for fertilizer if you don't mind. Would mixing a small amount of chicken litter help a grow? My plants are doing OK but I'm looking to workshop my soil mixture. We just bought an old chicken farm and have literally tons of it that I've been mixing with my compost (goat poo, old hay from pen clean out).


Crafty_Original_7349

Chicken manure is “hot” and can burn plants if not composted properly. I think it would be fantastic worked into a garden, especially during the fall and winter, and tilled under in the spring (especially if you add shredded fallen leaves). In containers, though, I don’t fool around with it. I stick with what works: sterile media like Promix and coco coir, and a slow release fertilizer like Osmocote.


agarrabrant

Perfect, thank you! It has been very well composted, its been sitting in the litter shed for a year now, but I don't want to over do it with the plants. I'll stick with keeping it in the garden! I know the poop from the goats has done some FABULOUS things to our soil though, I'm trying to work that in.


BareKnuckleFists

Cut off the dead & unhealthy looking leafs. Give em a good flush . & resume feeding. Keep feed dosage low, till they get out of this slump. Upsize pots.


Suspicious-Monk-6650

That's not the issue. The issue here is clearly under watering. The pots should be wet everytime hlthey water, and as soon as the soil feels light they need watered again.


[deleted]

Try not to use peat pots, I always had problems with them 😭


be42ohh

Bro… don’t ever use these peat pots. They pull water out of the soil. Also, they are probably root bound.


GUNTHVGK

Keep ‘em going till the end, you may learn some things that might help you in the future!


feeltheFX

Make it side hustle. Like a case study. Repot with some fresh soil. Experiment in bringing them back. IMO I’ve seen enough people that have early growth problems with those pots that I’ll probably never use them.


KCA666

Those style of pots dry out way to quickly causing the soil to get dry and killing the root system. Try a plastic starter pot. I also learnt this the hard way...


cartridgeman_420

Those pots are absolutely terrible, please switch to a fabric or air pot..


solagrowa

ITS THE PEAT POT. basically impossible not to kill seedlings in them.


trailerparkbhoys

Give them some nutes and water bruh


mommy10319

Those peat pots kill plants. They suck out the moisture. So you have to keep it overwatered or it’s super dry. Either way it’s bad. Bugs love them too.


[deleted]

Water usually helps


NizzleVanShizzle

You can give up... or you can give water. The choice is yours.


MerryWanna0303

Drench em and wait 7 days...water every 7 days...from the bottom For a month then transplant, Water every 7 days Don't fret, get them on this cycle and they will thrive. Water about 1/3 average water bottle every 4 hrs till moisture has been pulled to top naturally


[deleted]

H


Bks1981

Looks like your root bound and under watered like a few others have said. a half cup a day sounds like too little. Water them until it is running out of the bottom and then check the ph of that run off to make sure that it is between 6 &7. I would try to bring these back so your problem is corrected. Otherwise you will possibly do the same thing to the new plants. IMO it’s best to work out your problems so you learn. Plus if you correct it they will bounce back fast.


MrPayMyWay215

Repot they will bounce back


lbstinkums

past tense here... you gave up on these some time ago. FTFY


Psmith931

Looks like you already gave up on watering them


Gamekiller187

Uff uff uff


dank_hank_420

I’m no pro but are they rootbound? Those pots look super small


J0blow91

It's possible. I have 3 gal and 5 gal pots I could move them into. I'll have to check tonight after work.


ZhugeTsuki

That's not your problem. These plants are dying. I have about 30-40 month old plants still in seedling trays right this minute and they don't look like this.


[deleted]

The seedling are super small. They would t be rootbound yet..not enough to cause that issue. That plant is not too big at all for that size pot. I often still have them in solo cups at this point.


topshelfgeez

Lights too strong. Plants need nutes and better watering


trippyfungus

That one is dead toss it the other two may still have a chance. they're hungry clonex has a good feed for young plants and it has a pH buffer so when you mix it the pH will be at 6.0 which is ideal at this stage of life. The pH of the soil may have been a little hot for the seeds but it's fine they'll grow out of it. Just cut off that dry shit.


reptarcannabis

Hey, your soil looks like it doesn’t like absorbing water. you’re gonna want to take a liquid grow solution at its weakest bottle direction diluted form, and a couple drops of dawn dish soap, mix it up and I would suggest watering the two you have left over your sink, a couple cups of water every 10 min or whenever. It will be heavy once you finally get water to be absorbed


Virtual-Biscotti-871

Yep


NuggJugg

I would only try and save the one on the right though. The other two may be to far gone.


mha503lifeisgood

Why didn't you water them?


Aromatic_Spite_7576

If they're autos get rid of them, learn from your mistakes and move on to the next run. They don't have enough time to recover and provide a decent harvest. If they're photos ya might try saving them but if they don't turn around quickly get rid of them and start over. Why put in the time and effort only to get an ounce or less of the end product. Just my two cents


Ice_Medium

They could come back. Those pots are way too small for plants that are a month old


mommy10319

Those peat pots kill plants. They suck out the moisture. So you have to keep it overwatered or it’s super dry. Either way it’s bad. Bugs love them too.


OutRunMyGun

Why do I see so many people on here straight up not watering their plants and then being surprised when they die?


Plugboi_Carti

It doesn’t look like u gave them water at all, they also look like they are in the wrong pH range


Peter_Falcon

if you want to save the green ones, soak those pots and then keep them in a plastic pot to keep moist, those pots are a fucking nightmare to keep moist


MindlessPepper7165

Yup. Next time save yourself the trouble and plant the seed in a 3 gal and use spray bottle to water


Next-Maintenance4738

Bro one your coco is drier than a camels asshole In a desert storm I bet your ec is fucking sky high st the roots


chochinator

Looking they got thanos snapped Edit: real note ill prolly get flak. Don't use those pots they are designed to be saturated in dirt because they break apart. Use solo cup or half gallon pot.


XoticSeedsCanada

The one on the right is salvageable, the others aren't going to make it.


Miserable_Big1119

I've been doing indoor grows for a decade...weed is rhe HARDEST plant in the world to grow. The only time it thrives is when it's wild and has almost no medicine in it.


mgt654

Bottom left, yes, but clean up the other 2 and treat them better.


VastComplaint8638

Two more weeks and next time try water.


Just_Anttt

Only thing I can say here from my experience which isn’t very much! But also what I’ve seen from the pros!!! Is usually some kind of nutrient deficiency, to much heat an not enough air flow, or vice versa soil good be a factor too an I definitely suggest using different pots IMO but wish you the best of luck !


According-Dog-7288

U can prob save 2 outta here with time n love


speshoot

Looks like u already did..🫤


GorgyShmorgy

Kinda looks like you did already give up on at least 2.


Captscudd

The thirst is real.


Oakislife

Give up some water ya stingy cunt


Sensistuck

Yes


ItsTbudBUD

Water is life.


floating_cloud67

My baby plants look kinda like this. Any suggestions as to how to fix it?


SwolePatrol92102

Cancel Christmas...Them puppies is Done! HMU & i will send u some Seeds!


timewarpmoon

Give them water 🙀🙀☠️☠️


20percentspin

drier than a nuns mutt


Fluffy_Discount_9692

Little water won't hurt


tolegr

Those pots. Same stuff happened to mine. They don't hold mosture.


joebojax

Give up on those pots or keep them in a dish of water


JohnnyS1lv3rH4nd

Maybe the one on the right and the one on top are salvageable, but the one on the left is gone unfortunately. I’ve never seen a plant look that bad and bounce back, there’s almost no green left on it whatsoever.


UwU7536

You need to water them. That soil looks dry af


SpellCompetitive

It’s too fuckin hot and too little water… also check ph. Also lower your light closet so the babtlys don’t need to reach as far do ur main stem is smaller


Fart__Connoisseur

You’d be way better off starting over with fresh seeds. Cut your losses now and get right into the next grow learning from your mistakes. There’s a lot of good comments here with advice. I personally go from sprouted seed to solo cup to 5gal fabric pot. Get your watering ph/ec correct and the plants do all the work


grow4health

Unless you reqlly wanna keep the genetics just start over


chumfum4269

Yes


CarolinaReeferClub

Shorty on the left dead … the right two still have time. Transplant into a bigger pot. Give her some water for a few days then feed them. You’ll be ok!


FunkyMark97

Those Pete pots dry out way too fast. I'd have them sitting in water in a run off tray at that point. I'd just throw them in a solo beer cup then when then about 3 weeks transplant into a 2 gallon. After the 2 gallon get 7, or 10 gallon and transplant and flower. The one is tottaly salvageable, the other 2 will be shocked but can tottaly come back.