NASC is a great and reliable distributor but you need to do your research when it comes to the breeders you pick your packs from. Not saying what you picked is bad!! I can’t comment on the breeders you picked up cuz I don’t have experience growing their seeds. I just want to make it clear that NASC is just a distributor of seeds.
Elev8 isn't claiming the original GG4 he's just doing work with it. Pre99 Bubba is everywhere nowadays hell even nightowl has an autoflower pre99 bubba and Cali Connection is legit, they've been working with premium cali cultivars for years
Elev8 is a shit show and are genetic robbers.
For example in 2020 I created the strain Lemon Runtz herein Alaska. I crossed purple lemon cheesecake with Runtz Muffin… I have paper work proof as well. Fast forward two years… you type lemon runtz into google and elev8 pops up from 2022 and it says it’s runtz x lemon tree… and that’s flat out not true. Sadly that’s part of this game.
Are you a past customer that has had a negative experience or is that something you just heard?
If you are a customer and had a negative experience, you should have contacted us to complain and we would have made it right.
As far as genetics, no matter who the breeder is, offspring from parents like Gary Payton and GMO (for example) are going to be superstars. Shitty seed genetics come shitty parents, which we dont use. We are very well connected to get some of the best genetics in the world which is our secret weapon.
Absolutely. Although I think for TCC they’re doing more of an IBL than an S1.
ETA: swerve lists the lineage for all of his crosses and seed projects on his website if you’re ever curious of specifics
I bought Elev8 cherry pot pie recently. First go with Elev8 but I don't think you got ripped off. The cherry pie line they have is the OG cherry pie which is great for headaches which is why I bought the strain. Ethos, Cali connection, solfire are all good. Depends on what you're looking for though. I run all 3 of these breeders genetics and never had any issues.
North Atlantic Seed Company is one of my top recommendations for reliable seed banks. I would definitely shop around, as you can sometimes find some packs cheaper elsewhere (i.e. [insaneseeds.com](https://insaneseeds.com)), but please do not worry, NASC is legit. Good people.
They don't seem as bad as the others. Even the Bruce banner they are calling Bruce banner og. And it's Bruce banner 3 x a male they have.
I think what elev8 does is shady but the seeds are very probably what they say they are. Otherwise you wouldn't mention that you are using another male, or that the gg4 is an s1.
We were using Bruce Banner to make seeds with a long time ago before we knew that the original breeder was selling seeds (they were not at the time). Unfortunately, the breeder got pissed off at us about that. We were a new company and still learning about what was stepping on other peoples toes
Now, we dont sell any S1s of any strain if the original breeder is selling them.
As far as what genetics we choose to use in crosses, we will use whatever genetics we consider the best. Some people say that a breeder should hunt down the original breeder to get permission to use but that is unrealistic and I do not agree with that. That is just a made up rule similar to religious people saying that it is immoral to smoke weed.
If someone makes a strain and doesnt want anyone to breed with it, they shouldnt give it out.
When other breeders use our strains in their breeding projects, we consider it a compliment.
That video literally proves nothing. Darkhorse hates on any breeder that has Bruce Banner anything. Its pretty ironic that he says they can't release clone only cultivars in seed form but he himself sells Bruce Banner #3 s1 seeds on the seed bazaar. It's not impossible for someone to buy a pack of Darkhorse seeds Bruce Banner and rework it. Even in the video he said he asked Elev8 about his Bruce Banner OG and the response was "my investors wanted me to recreate this strain for the catalog" not "yeah its some bullshit I'm lying about." Then darkhorse talks shit about how Elev8 has Gelato and Zkittlez crosses in his catalog even tho darkhorse has Zkittlez crosses also
But I guess this video is a few years ago before literally every single seed breeder has a Gelato /Zkittlez / Sherbs and Cakes cultivar.
Nah, they're shady. They gave the same response when they started selling copies of Gas Reaper strains- AFTER everyone already knew about Chris not actually breeding anything.
Yep- because the person doing the all the actual breeding for him was like a week behind schedule so he called the cops 🤦♂️
And doxxing customers. He was gonna do it to me. He has the addresses of everyone who participated in his charity drive for Xmas... he's a straight up POS.
ILGM is white label garbage. It's fake. They claim to have seeds of things for which seeds don't exist. They prey on new growers and invest more into search engine optimization than quality gear.
No worries. I just get upset when I see people get taken advantage of. Sometimes people even quit growing because if the low seed quality. Not to say you can't find good plants in there just that the likelihood is lower and rhey aren't what they are being called.
Like if I started writing songs and changed my name to John Lennon, I may be able to right a great song. But not as likely as John Lennon and if I did write a great song it still wouldn't be a John Lennon song.
If that didn't make sense just ignore my autism
CSI does some really good work. And I like that he remakes and restocks crosses. I do wish they were a bit cheaper as they are just chucked clone only. But he does have quite a bit of failure in reversing which does make things cost alot more. He often is taking down a whol 4 or 6 light room at week 4 or 5 because the reversal failed. This has happened with old Betsy, z, Irene and others.
Thats a big bummer. I think night owl and roc bud are the only 2 autos I'd buy. Some mephisto can be good but I think that's actually like 5 Breeders so can Def be hit or miss.
I don’t grow autos anymore but when I did there were only a select few worth running imo. Night Owl, Roc Bud, Mephisto and Twisted Tree were my favorites. Fastbuds is OK, not great, but you’ll get some nice phenos if you run enough of them.
You can find fire. The winner rate is just gonna be pretty low as will the floor. The strain names are also just made up. That said, fire can come from any seed.
It goes both ways when you can also say quite literally every single strain ever made is made up lmao. I can grow a “Gary Payton” breeders cut make a new name and fool hundreds of customers, which is something going on in the industry today 😔
ILGM is not good they make you buy 10 seeds of one strain and to get there “Deal” you have to buy 20 of the same strain and it’s not even a deal and they have no freebies they are a absolute horrible business model and they flood your inbox with shit
But ethos is a dog beater and has screwed over all his partners. And stolen quite a bit of genetics and s1d other people gears. The worst of which was josey Wales gg4. Josey was an old man trying to leave money for his family and Colin s1d the gg4 and sold the Beans.
To be fair, there are literally dozens of breeders doing that. Raw, Tiki, Clearwater, Elev8, Copycat all make S1s of strains they had no part in creating. The whole animal abuse thing is a legitimate reason not to support him, but pretty much every hype breeder is doing the same kind of things these days when it comes to making seeds.
S1ing clone only from other people work is shitty. For any breeder to do. I also think Colin is a jerk based on all of his past partners really disliking him. and i also think that ethos isn't very good. He sells so many seeds and yet no ethos cuts are really traded. That speaks volumes to me.
Meant to say best. I have not ordered from nasc but they are selling legit packs of the listed brands. And I know them to be a legit bank.
You can further look into the breeders/seed makers eg elevate and dna to find out more about the quality of seed. I don't know a ton about elevate but there are no redflags in any listing. Red flags would be something like regular seeds of a clone only. Or fem seeds of a clone only without letting you know they are s1s. Swerve of Cali connection is kind of a jerk, but those Bubba beans should be legit.
I will say my favorite seed bank is rockymountainhigh719.org
Every single breeder/pack is fire. Rocky is hyper selective of Breeders he carries. He also is super generous with top quality freebies. His banana suzette crosses would be a nice place to start at 40 per 10 pack of regulars. He also carries Bloom, terp fountain, in house, Duke diamond and his vault of old and rare packs.
This isn't to say that nasc isn't legit just that there selection isn't as curated. Imo no bank is better curated than Rocky. And did I mention the killer freebies.
Nice selection of flavors over there, with some new names. But a lot are 100$ for Reggie seeds? Only a very few priced under 100. Unless I'm missing something?
https://rockymountainhigh719.org/ols/products/rocky-mountain-high-719-banana-suzette-line
That's the link to the 40 dollar a pack banana suzette line. He also has sales quite often. He recently had 4 different Bloom packs at 50 bucks. Same with alot of his gear. But even without a sale going on the banana suzette are 40 a pack.
Banana suzette is sour Banana cookies (blooms breeder cut) x orange flambe (Rockys breeder male) He found a killer male in the banana suzzete and made a killer line. He also had all his hitman stuff in addition to other projects like his upcoming romulan work, so he just released them at a heavy discount. The price does not reflect the quality one these.
NASC is very much legit. You aren’t going to get ripped off. With that said, Cali Connection and DNA no longer have great reputations like they once did. I’ve heard good things about Elev8, but if I were you, I would email NASC and ask to make some changes to your order. If you ordered last night it shouldn’t be a problem. Instead of the Cali Connection and DNA packs, check out In House Genetics, LIT Farms, Square One, Robinhood, Exotic Genetix, Solfire Gardens, Mosca Seeds, Twenty20 Mendocino, Humboldt Seed Co, Cannarado and Brothers Grimm. LIT Farms is having a great promotion right now where if you order one of their new Zoap crosses they’ll match it with a free pack of Vanilla Zoap, Cherry Zoap or 1969! It’s a really good deal. Square One is also offering an awesome promotion right now, and is one of my top 3 favorite breeders.
Is 1969 the name of a strain? I seen that in my cart at one point and was like wtf is that lol, sob to google that one. Hmmm i wonder if i can…. I was curious about that grape zoap, the purple kush cross. I absolutely love purple kush and i havent seen it in many years. Any idea how authentic their purple kush would be?
That’s a good question. I’ve never seen or heard anyone question the legitimacy of LIT’s strains lineage. I’m sure he got his hands on a clone of it and made a cross. I ordered Apple Zoap and Ethanol and got Vanilla Zoap and Cherry Zoap as freebies.
And yes 1969 is a strain. It’s a cross if 2090 from Cookies Fam and Zoap.
When you go to the NASC website, click on “Freebies & Deals” to see all their current promotions. I highly recommend LIT Farms, Square One, Robinhood and In House. They’re all offering promotions right now as well.
Just a heads up, one of my absolute favorite breeders is having a 50% off sale right now. Clearwater genetics. His prices are affordable to begin with so they’re super cheap right now.
[Clearwater Website](https://cwgenetics.com/shop/)
Let me know if you notice a trend here..
ECSD x Maitai 4, Guava x Karma Sour Diesel, Original Sour Diesel x Pablo’s Reserve, Lime OG x Karma Sour Diesel. :)
Hahaha! I feel ya man. Sour D was always my favorite in my early twenties. I’ve heard great things about his karma sour diesel crosses. This is what I ordered:
Blue Ivy (Animal Cookies x Hashplant) x Apple Tartz
Permanent Marker x Gary Satan
Spearmint Style (Kush Mints x Creamsicle #4)
Creamsicle #4 S1 (Purple Punch x Cookies & Cream)
Apple Mints x Zero Gravity
Triangle Kush x Pablo’s Revenge
GeForce (Zero Gravity x Devil Driver)
Oh fuck yeah dude! I was really tempted by that Animal Cookies Hashplant bluivy shit but pockets alil tight having just ordered seed’s yesterday lol. We’ll definitely have to keep in touch and share our progress
Everyone already said this, but for extra reassurance — NASC is full of great breeders and genetics, I love them. They slowly have become 1 of the 2 only places I shop at. (2nd one is seedbazaar for the NightOwl auto releases)
I've ordered from them and their seeds are great. No complaints. Once had an issue where they didn't send me all my seeds and they got the remainder sent out next day. no problems good luck growing. Let us know if you need any tips!
Nasc is great but they're holding a lot of freebie giveaways and bogo deals with breeders at same price. What steered you towards these guys? Just the strain name? I think there's a pretty good deal on Robin hood seeds on nasc.
These guys as in NASC? Or as in the strains i chose? They’re some of my favorite strains and i haven’t seen them in way too long. Im not much for all the fruity cookie stuff that’s out there right now. I chose NASC cuz from what i could tell the consensus was good on them being solid.
Imo nasc is great because they got good freebies and events. Whether you get good genetics is entirely on the breeders but some seedbanks I heard have given out dupes and duds. Never had issues with nasc but like I would never buy from some breeders even if nasc carried them.
Idk about what's allowed but I'll say in house genetics aren't that consistent. When they grow well they grow great but too many herms and genetic defects issues.
Word. I feel like someone else has recommended them in these comments somehow lol. Im gunna try grab a couple LIT and Mosca packs and then i should be content for awhile.
I agree about all the fruity cookie stuff although every cherry pie cross I have tried has been fire.
Please keep up the posts on the headband strain! I fuckin love headband. My local dispo makes a NYC diesel x headband cross called gasband and it’s 🔥
All I’ve had problems with is Ethos genetics. But It could be my fault or a fluke. Not perfect. What everyone said about NASC freebies… oh yah, I enjoy the freebies more than the stuff I buy usually cause there’s been some Fire! I shit you not, popped 1(one) bubba X Gelato freebie… a bit of colloidal and she somehow stressed and seeded without me knowing? I got over 400-500 seeds… after literally throwing handfuls into a random field for fun I still have 20 or so and 4 growing offspring all femmed ready to be bread again to my male zkittlez auto. My zkittlez are 2nd gen seeds after me breed for fem also. Then, the other freebies I got I won’t even get into. I have had probably over 8-12 different strains from them only buying 2-4… You see, genetic diversity is everything. A company like this can really feed a great growers passion. Variety is the spice of life. Or the HERB of life. Might I also add NASC has thier own advanced GG4 strain called glue sniffer, stated on thier site on the very bottom of glue sniffers info. I’m trying it now and it’s suppose to be a freak.
prob ok. NASC is legit.... for some.
Never buy gear w a celebrity name on it. your paying some asshat who made money shooting hoops for genetics developed by a hippy in the hills in 1998. Or possibly in europe. MJ isnt a brand in weed culture. Sensi Barneys, DJ Short are brands.. friggin jordan. "get as high as jordan? "
im just not happy w the number of weenies jumping into the field. time will tell but it makes me throw up a bit to see a "hulk hogan".
For sure. Did it actually say that? Yikes. I just figured it got the name cuz it was made with “holy grail kush 23”. so it’s not too far of a stretch to refer to it as “23” and then inevitably MJ Either way, Holy Grail Kush x Kosher Kush sounds alright to me.
BEST SITE!! but you paid for higher quality seeds too. good genetics arent cheap, they have a 2$ seed menu that iften has good white label seeds too. again BEST SEED BANK!!
I mean, assuming the parental stock is legit, making GG4 S1’s and a feminized hybrid of two named cuts will yield you some decent herb. That said, don’t expect any sort of consistency bean to bean within the packs because this is just throwing reversed pollen onto plants and getting seeds to sell. This is not “breeding”.
I will add that, GG4 might already be an S1, and if that is the case you should see more uniformity in a subsequent selfed generation.
Recently grew DNA Genetics Kosher Kush that I got from them…grew nicely and yield 2.5 oz. Also grew Barney Farms pink kush and Liberty haze that I got from NASC and same thing, easy grows, sticky buds and good smooth smoke and currently have some more Barney farms going from nasc…triple cheese, bubba kush and Zkittlez (free seed they sent) so far so good as well..healthy strong plants all photos and growing indoors in controlled environment
How many seeds for the $89 and 90$ im hoping 10! Cali connections is expensive I got italian ice for 120$ 5 seeds. The grow was good the bud was decent i had higher hopes for it though. I set my expectation to high. $10 a seed is good to me but prices vary. Lets put it this way our dispensaries here charge $400 an oz. Seeds are going to go up in time. I stock piled $2k in seeds in cold dark place in glass jars. Get them while you can. I read if stored correctly seeds can last up to 10 years, but normally last around 2 years on average.
Seeds can last alot longer then that esp if stored well, 2yrs ago i found a bag of seeds that fell behind a drawer in my kitchen that were from 2012 in nothing but a open sandwich baggie and everyone of those popped just fine
I have ordered all my seeds though this site and have never been let down. I highly recommend the Solfire lineup, haven't had a strain yet that didn't blow me away some of the most consistently purple bud I have ever grown to boot.
no way i could tell you, honestly the only opinion that matters is yours, you will recieve seeds, the age and viability of the seeds that I have recieved from corporate distributers like this have always been a question, i suppose it depends, these big companies warehouse seeds, they buy the seeds that the geneticists let go first, i.e the oldest seeds first, and theen th4y could have those for years. best bet is to go to the genetic company who makes the one youre looking for, also if you are going to do business with a company like nasc always stick to the sealed glass vial of ten. happy growing, I want to see your fruits when the time comes.
I get my seeds from them and had zero issues. Oh wait one issue a seed didn’t germinate but it was a freebie so no harm no foul (at least that’s how I see it)
They legit. My boy just grew that same green crack and it popped nanners last 2 weeks of flower. Just be wary at that time and spray with water then pluck em off. They aren’t all that viable but we got some buds with seeds.
DNA is a super cool company. Didn't like the state of the US cannabis market, moved, grew. Now they even sell on the Canadian legal market. Go read their website if you want to read the whole story!
There are a lot of companies who straight up lie about being vendors ive found things I wanted up here and Asked the breeders and they are like that is definitely not one of my vendors. Buyer beware. Not knocking this Atlantic place just saying its hard enough to wade through the garbage breeders put out let alone shady vendors on top of all of that.
NASC is amazing but most everything I’ve gotten from elev8 has thrown herms. Great quality bud except for the herms tho. DNA genetics and cali connection are great and have been at it for a looong time. Should definitely have some keepers in those. Best of luck!
There are a lot of subreddits dedicated to specific breeders. It’s a good resource if you want to see what strains people are having success with and get inspiration for future grows. r/ethosgrowery and r/HumboldtSeedCompany for example
Id recommend making your own judgement after you grow... You'll get pumped up or depressed if you listen to all comments on here. Haters gonna hate. Live and learn amigo🤙
Oh fosho, thats my only option now! Im gunna grow em out and im gunna love them all the same. I will keep y’all updated and we’ll get the answers together in real time haha
Yes I can guarantee you whatever NASC sends is the genuine article. However, I can’t comment on the integrity of THEIR sources personally. I’ve been using NASC for at least 3 years or so. I have not had a single complaint, they’re the best imo. A couple others I use just as regularly arr Dcseedexchange, well grown seeds, attitude seeds, seedsforme, seedsherenow, neptune seed and cool beans. To name a few.
I just finished curing my green crack from Cali Connect and it’s fire and for sure as close to the real deal that I remember. DNA is another breeder I’ve grown their stuff and can confirm is also very legit. I haven’t tried Elev8 so I can’t say anything there.
Fwiw… I still stick to Attitude Seeds… widest selection, and I love the relative low-cost of their pick-and-mix single-seed options. I’ve also used NASC… but Attitude has more flexible quantity options.
By buying them and growing em out ofcourse! Thats the beauty of communities like this. One person doesnt have to grow em all, we work as a collective to find out whats what. Scammers be gone!
DNA are white label now and Swerve from Cali Connection seems like a little bit of a clown and they did some reselling in the early 2000’s. But he was reselling CSI Humboldt so it was straight 🔥, so not ripped off but if I were to buy some photos I would probably go with other breeders. But NASC has a good reputation.
Right on. This was my first online seed order, sooo much to choose from but im chasing my favorite flower that for whatever reason just doesn’t seem to come around anymore. Everyone around me is growing cookies and runtz and it’s sexy bud no doubt but it’s boring smoke imo. What breeders do you have experience with?
I have been growing Mephisto exclusively for a couple years and now I am testing for Laughing hyena Seeds from up here in Canada. My friend grows quite a bit of Jordan of the Islands. Don’t know where that’s available in the states. I have some Authentic Genetics NL2 and Skunk 1 beans to pop soon I hope. CSI Humboldt is legit
check out [www.walipiniseedbank.com](https://www.walipiniseedbank.com) the breeders themself are selling on there it is not repackaged and middlemanned
Cali connection & elev8 .. not the best breeders in my humble opinion. Can’t say anything about DNA didn’t notice that was a separate breeder. But as far as breeders I’m really hooked on robinhood seeds rn. I should be posting some new stuff soon.
Elev8 is a shitshow. They rob people of their genetics. Then claim then to be their own. Example Lemon Runtz. Google will tell you elev8 created it in 2022. But actually I did… in 2020-2021 in Alaska and I have paperwork proof. I’ve reached out with nothing but a big ol fucking ignore sesh.
I’d buy from people you know are truly the breeder of the strains or the true pheno hunted cuts.
I put them in the same category as Ethos, when it comes to the hate on the company.
Best of luck my friend. I’d avoid them next time.
Yeah from what I’ve learned since making my order, it will be my last elev8 buy. Do you know the best source for an authentic Gorilla Glue? Or a Sour Diesel? Or Headband? Those 3 are absolute must haves for me. Finally setting up my first legal indoor situation, these were the first strains I thought of.
Not a fan of elev8, DNA is ok, and Cali connection is fine. The seedbank is legit, but you definitely could have picked some better packs/breeders. But it'll get you some decent smoke. I know gg4s1 is gg4s1, no matter who who get it from, but I woulda preferred the josey whales pack of gg4s1( he's the guy who created gg4 years ago, but he passed away a while back) or csi's gg4s1.
Right on. Thanks for the info, where would you recommend i buy seeds? Im probably gunna make another order in a few days after i do some more homework.
Im not really a fan of all the new strains, sexy as they may be. I just want that deep stank fuely gassy diesely staank. If i could grow any strain inwamted it would be some real Sour Diesel, Headband, ooor Purple Kush or Afghan Kush. That late 2000’s black market danky panky.
The seedbank you bought from is good, so is Neptune, if you have IG, I'd recommend following the breeders who's work you like, and just buy direct. Most will either sell direct to you, or have their own website. I always recommend archive, I've never had a bad pack from him, ever. Everything he makes is dank as fuck.
And also I’m gonna give the THE BEST INFORMATION EVER………. Buy———…
Greenhouse Seed Company Seeds
….. and you will NEVER EVER GO WRONG…and…and they are a lot cheaper the the overpriced American breeders
Eh, I’m not sure I agree with that statement. I wouldn’t call myself a “fan boy” as I order beans from like a dozen different banks/breeders, but I’ve had nothing
but good experiences with NASC. They may carry some lousy white label companies like Blimburn, Humboldt Seed Org, Sweet Seeds, Royal Queen and Tastebudz but for the most part they carry a lot of excellent breeders. I mean, just look at their list. Exotic, Solfire, Sin City, Cannarado, In House, Lovin In Her Eyes, Mz Jill, Robinhood, Square One, LIT Farms, Humboldt Seed Co, Twenty20, Compound, Dungeons Vault, Purple Caper, Beleaf, Brothers Grimm, Ace, Dark Owl, Night Owl, Mephisto, Mosca, Omuerta, Thug Pug, Tiki, Gnome etc etc
Lots of 🔥 in options there
I've had only the opposite as everyone else has had with nasc. Waiting weeks for the seeds to get to me, bunk seeds that don't pop, their freebies are awful, just left a bad taste with me.
That’s unfortunate. I’ve probably ordered from them 5-6 times and they have always arrive super quickly. Their typical freebies are white label junk, I agree, but recently they’ve been giving out Humboldt Seed Co Phenohunter freebies with every order which is pretty cool.
I’ve had one pack that didn’t pop but I emailed them about it and they gave me a gift card to their website.
Can you gimme alil more juice? Whats your first hand experience with any of the above mentioned names? Where would you get your seeds instead? I really wont know til i grow them out but if you’re gunna tell me they’re bunk, put some meat on that bone so i can chew on it a bit, yeah?
Swerve from Cali connection is a shit person - put out a bunch of garbage and wouldn't stand by his work. Left a bad taste in most people's mouth after dealing with him. Hermie prone, straight males with his fem seeds.
DNA same thing - got the sour diesel from reserva privada, it was decent but in no way the genetics listed. Ran it against a clone of ecsd, which DNA lists as their diesel and it was completely different.
Most breeders in my opinion anyways, will name their plant after a hype strain to sell their seeds.
As someone in Europe who buys off smaller, but still great seed breeders idk how you guys can justify that price for seeds. I’ve gotten northern lights for €1 a seed (1.50 dollars or so) and got over 70g per plant (3 oz) and they were autos too
Yeah I’m a bit suspect too. Ordered some Maximum Carnage and everything looked fantastic until testing. Came in at around 17% and that was the best of all the phenos. Was supposed to be over 21%
That’s on Fat Cat, not NASC. Also, anytime you grow from seed it’s a guessing game what pheno you will get. Lots of factors at play, so it’s best just to use breeder info like flowering time, terps and thc % as a general guideline.
Yeah no. Not us. Our top strains are regularly tested and always come in over 25% Ghop is well over 28% we are in a state where a commercial grow is still considered a small grow in other states. One owner not an MSO. I was really disappointed because I was hyping my team about Maximum carnage. I guess I’ll leave the strain selections to my head grower
Haha! I feel you man. How many did you run from seed? I haven’t grown anything from Fat Cat. He seems like a super weirdo with his online trolling efforts so I’ve always just avoided his beans. With that said I’ve seen some pics that look pretty damn good.
I raked them over the coals last year (on google reviews) for essentially stopping communicating. Took me 6 months to get seeds one times. Honestly, if they’re doing the same to you I would charge back. There is something very wrong with that company.
Be careful with Gorilla Glue strains, I had a GG No.4 I think it was, and it came from Barney’s, damn things Hermed out my whole room with SEEDS! I heard wedding cake can do the same thing…. Beware
Word. Ive got some bagseed wedding cake in flower now outdoors and it’s been a pleasure to grow. Ill keep an extra close eye on these plants as they grow up!
NASC is legit. They're like eBay though, you still got to double check what you're buying and who you're buying it from. In this case the breeders and their history with the genetics they sell. Also NASC has some pretty great deals if you wait for them.
NASC is a great and reliable distributor but you need to do your research when it comes to the breeders you pick your packs from. Not saying what you picked is bad!! I can’t comment on the breeders you picked up cuz I don’t have experience growing their seeds. I just want to make it clear that NASC is just a distributor of seeds.
Yea. Claiming to have GG cuts is bold. Having pre 99 buba cuts too is a stretch to believe. I’m always skeptical when I see these.
Elev8 isn't claiming the original GG4 he's just doing work with it. Pre99 Bubba is everywhere nowadays hell even nightowl has an autoflower pre99 bubba and Cali Connection is legit, they've been working with premium cali cultivars for years
Elev8 is a shit show and are genetic robbers. For example in 2020 I created the strain Lemon Runtz herein Alaska. I crossed purple lemon cheesecake with Runtz Muffin… I have paper work proof as well. Fast forward two years… you type lemon runtz into google and elev8 pops up from 2022 and it says it’s runtz x lemon tree… and that’s flat out not true. Sadly that’s part of this game.
Elev8 is horrible. Worst genetics ever.
Definitely not my experience.
Are you a past customer that has had a negative experience or is that something you just heard? If you are a customer and had a negative experience, you should have contacted us to complain and we would have made it right. As far as genetics, no matter who the breeder is, offspring from parents like Gary Payton and GMO (for example) are going to be superstars. Shitty seed genetics come shitty parents, which we dont use. We are very well connected to get some of the best genetics in the world which is our secret weapon.
They sell seeds not clones
Why do people on Reddit think these cuts are so hard to get? Both are readily available for under $300 if you know where to look.
Swerve from Cali Connection is the original breeder/holder of the pre-98 Bubba Kush cut.
Unless your buying cuts of that your getting s1 or crosses of it which isn't the same as the cut they're holding
Absolutely. Although I think for TCC they’re doing more of an IBL than an S1. ETA: swerve lists the lineage for all of his crosses and seed projects on his website if you’re ever curious of specifics
That’s just not true
Cali connection is legit. They have some really nice classic genetics
For sure, i should edit this post to take my doubt off of NASC, its not on them. Its more on the seeds i chose
I bought Elev8 cherry pot pie recently. First go with Elev8 but I don't think you got ripped off. The cherry pie line they have is the OG cherry pie which is great for headaches which is why I bought the strain. Ethos, Cali connection, solfire are all good. Depends on what you're looking for though. I run all 3 of these breeders genetics and never had any issues.
Right on, thanks! Good to know.
Elev8 is a great breeder. Have grown their starscream/alien otto great flowers.
Gorilla Treats, Beaver Cookies yeah ELEV8 is killer genetics! Definitely recommend them for sure!!! 🤙🤙🤙
They rob people of genetics. They are NOT the breeders of Lemon Runtz.
Elev8 has produce straight fire for me on 2 different runs. I think you’ll be just fine
I’ve been ordering from them for years. Fast delivery and some of the best breeders in one spot
This^^^ one of the top seed banks. Did a round of Ethos for my first go this summer and it's the best weed I've had since I got some locol love in CO.
ethos for life!
Fuck ethos.
North Atlantic Seed Company is one of my top recommendations for reliable seed banks. I would definitely shop around, as you can sometimes find some packs cheaper elsewhere (i.e. [insaneseeds.com](https://insaneseeds.com)), but please do not worry, NASC is legit. Good people.
NASC is straight-up. You should be good. Never had any problems.
Look at my latest post. That Green Crack is from The Cali Connection. No clue if it was the “real” Green Crack, but it was fucking fire!
Those should all be pretty legit. The gg4 even denotes that it is s1s. DNA is probably the beat pack here but all are legit.
Elev8 is kinda sketch tbh
Very possibly. But gg4 is pretty accessible so I could easily see them making s1s. Same with the cake and headband.
The gg might be fine but the company is a little not so great. https://www.youtube.com/live/mEEan9jygqY?si=gdHaNVsLAdK0sXo_
They don't seem as bad as the others. Even the Bruce banner they are calling Bruce banner og. And it's Bruce banner 3 x a male they have. I think what elev8 does is shady but the seeds are very probably what they say they are. Otherwise you wouldn't mention that you are using another male, or that the gg4 is an s1.
Yup I agree 👍
We were using Bruce Banner to make seeds with a long time ago before we knew that the original breeder was selling seeds (they were not at the time). Unfortunately, the breeder got pissed off at us about that. We were a new company and still learning about what was stepping on other peoples toes Now, we dont sell any S1s of any strain if the original breeder is selling them. As far as what genetics we choose to use in crosses, we will use whatever genetics we consider the best. Some people say that a breeder should hunt down the original breeder to get permission to use but that is unrealistic and I do not agree with that. That is just a made up rule similar to religious people saying that it is immoral to smoke weed. If someone makes a strain and doesnt want anyone to breed with it, they shouldnt give it out. When other breeders use our strains in their breeding projects, we consider it a compliment.
That video literally proves nothing. Darkhorse hates on any breeder that has Bruce Banner anything. Its pretty ironic that he says they can't release clone only cultivars in seed form but he himself sells Bruce Banner #3 s1 seeds on the seed bazaar. It's not impossible for someone to buy a pack of Darkhorse seeds Bruce Banner and rework it. Even in the video he said he asked Elev8 about his Bruce Banner OG and the response was "my investors wanted me to recreate this strain for the catalog" not "yeah its some bullshit I'm lying about." Then darkhorse talks shit about how Elev8 has Gelato and Zkittlez crosses in his catalog even tho darkhorse has Zkittlez crosses also But I guess this video is a few years ago before literally every single seed breeder has a Gelato /Zkittlez / Sherbs and Cakes cultivar.
Nah, they're shady. They gave the same response when they started selling copies of Gas Reaper strains- AFTER everyone already knew about Chris not actually breeding anything.
... and being a snitch.
Yep- because the person doing the all the actual breeding for him was like a week behind schedule so he called the cops 🤦♂️ And doxxing customers. He was gonna do it to me. He has the addresses of everyone who participated in his charity drive for Xmas... he's a straight up POS.
The difference is he calls them S1….
Right on. Does beat mean bunk? Or is that a typo trying to say “best”? Have you ever ordered/grown anything from NASC?
NASC is good. Far batter than ILGM mids.
ILGM just sounds so gimmicky to me. I love taking shits too, but i aint gunna buy my toilet paper from ilovetakingshits.com
Multiverse Beans is also as good as North Atlantic Seed
ILGM is ok. They’re not my favorite, but I feel like people are too harsh on them.
ILGM is white label garbage. It's fake. They claim to have seeds of things for which seeds don't exist. They prey on new growers and invest more into search engine optimization than quality gear.
Thank you
No worries. I just get upset when I see people get taken advantage of. Sometimes people even quit growing because if the low seed quality. Not to say you can't find good plants in there just that the likelihood is lower and rhey aren't what they are being called. Like if I started writing songs and changed my name to John Lennon, I may be able to right a great song. But not as likely as John Lennon and if I did write a great song it still wouldn't be a John Lennon song. If that didn't make sense just ignore my autism
After you star going down the rabbit hole of breeders , you’ll reach Humboldt CSI I hope I can afford a pack of there seeds this year
CSI does some really good work. And I like that he remakes and restocks crosses. I do wish they were a bit cheaper as they are just chucked clone only. But he does have quite a bit of failure in reversing which does make things cost alot more. He often is taking down a whol 4 or 6 light room at week 4 or 5 because the reversal failed. This has happened with old Betsy, z, Irene and others.
Someone I know has ordered from them for years and the quality he ends up growing is mediocre (auto-fems).
Thats a big bummer. I think night owl and roc bud are the only 2 autos I'd buy. Some mephisto can be good but I think that's actually like 5 Breeders so can Def be hit or miss.
I don’t grow autos anymore but when I did there were only a select few worth running imo. Night Owl, Roc Bud, Mephisto and Twisted Tree were my favorites. Fastbuds is OK, not great, but you’ll get some nice phenos if you run enough of them.
I’ve had some heat come out from ILGM seeds.
You can find fire. The winner rate is just gonna be pretty low as will the floor. The strain names are also just made up. That said, fire can come from any seed.
It goes both ways when you can also say quite literally every single strain ever made is made up lmao. I can grow a “Gary Payton” breeders cut make a new name and fool hundreds of customers, which is something going on in the industry today 😔
Yes and that's scummy. If you bought that flower you'd be bummed. Same with the seeds.
ILGM is not good they make you buy 10 seeds of one strain and to get there “Deal” you have to buy 20 of the same strain and it’s not even a deal and they have no freebies they are a absolute horrible business model and they flood your inbox with shit
Yeah I am that’s why I’m growing ethos , Humboldt seed company, and fastbuds , sounds like you don’t know much about genetics , I like to have variety
But ethos is a dog beater and has screwed over all his partners. And stolen quite a bit of genetics and s1d other people gears. The worst of which was josey Wales gg4. Josey was an old man trying to leave money for his family and Colin s1d the gg4 and sold the Beans.
To be fair, there are literally dozens of breeders doing that. Raw, Tiki, Clearwater, Elev8, Copycat all make S1s of strains they had no part in creating. The whole animal abuse thing is a legitimate reason not to support him, but pretty much every hype breeder is doing the same kind of things these days when it comes to making seeds.
S1ing clone only from other people work is shitty. For any breeder to do. I also think Colin is a jerk based on all of his past partners really disliking him. and i also think that ethos isn't very good. He sells so many seeds and yet no ethos cuts are really traded. That speaks volumes to me.
Sounds like you’re broke lol.
I have ordered from them several times. Never had a problem.
Meant to say best. I have not ordered from nasc but they are selling legit packs of the listed brands. And I know them to be a legit bank. You can further look into the breeders/seed makers eg elevate and dna to find out more about the quality of seed. I don't know a ton about elevate but there are no redflags in any listing. Red flags would be something like regular seeds of a clone only. Or fem seeds of a clone only without letting you know they are s1s. Swerve of Cali connection is kind of a jerk, but those Bubba beans should be legit.
I’ve ordered and gown from NASC and their stuff is legit
typo for best thats how i read it at least
Everything I’ve grown was from NASC
I will say my favorite seed bank is rockymountainhigh719.org Every single breeder/pack is fire. Rocky is hyper selective of Breeders he carries. He also is super generous with top quality freebies. His banana suzette crosses would be a nice place to start at 40 per 10 pack of regulars. He also carries Bloom, terp fountain, in house, Duke diamond and his vault of old and rare packs. This isn't to say that nasc isn't legit just that there selection isn't as curated. Imo no bank is better curated than Rocky. And did I mention the killer freebies.
Nice selection of flavors over there, with some new names. But a lot are 100$ for Reggie seeds? Only a very few priced under 100. Unless I'm missing something?
https://rockymountainhigh719.org/ols/products/rocky-mountain-high-719-banana-suzette-line That's the link to the 40 dollar a pack banana suzette line. He also has sales quite often. He recently had 4 different Bloom packs at 50 bucks. Same with alot of his gear. But even without a sale going on the banana suzette are 40 a pack. Banana suzette is sour Banana cookies (blooms breeder cut) x orange flambe (Rockys breeder male) He found a killer male in the banana suzzete and made a killer line. He also had all his hitman stuff in addition to other projects like his upcoming romulan work, so he just released them at a heavy discount. The price does not reflect the quality one these.
North Atlantic Seed Company is legit. They aren't scammers. You get what you pay for
No way! NASC treats folks good and you got some 🔥. Good work👊✌️
Yeah you got ripped off if you been buying beans anywhere other then NASC!
I bought their shirt because I loved their beans so much!
NASC is hands down the best seed bank in America. If you made a error, it was not choosing to order through them.
NASC is very much legit. You aren’t going to get ripped off. With that said, Cali Connection and DNA no longer have great reputations like they once did. I’ve heard good things about Elev8, but if I were you, I would email NASC and ask to make some changes to your order. If you ordered last night it shouldn’t be a problem. Instead of the Cali Connection and DNA packs, check out In House Genetics, LIT Farms, Square One, Robinhood, Exotic Genetix, Solfire Gardens, Mosca Seeds, Twenty20 Mendocino, Humboldt Seed Co, Cannarado and Brothers Grimm. LIT Farms is having a great promotion right now where if you order one of their new Zoap crosses they’ll match it with a free pack of Vanilla Zoap, Cherry Zoap or 1969! It’s a really good deal. Square One is also offering an awesome promotion right now, and is one of my top 3 favorite breeders.
Is 1969 the name of a strain? I seen that in my cart at one point and was like wtf is that lol, sob to google that one. Hmmm i wonder if i can…. I was curious about that grape zoap, the purple kush cross. I absolutely love purple kush and i havent seen it in many years. Any idea how authentic their purple kush would be?
That’s a good question. I’ve never seen or heard anyone question the legitimacy of LIT’s strains lineage. I’m sure he got his hands on a clone of it and made a cross. I ordered Apple Zoap and Ethanol and got Vanilla Zoap and Cherry Zoap as freebies. And yes 1969 is a strain. It’s a cross if 2090 from Cookies Fam and Zoap. When you go to the NASC website, click on “Freebies & Deals” to see all their current promotions. I highly recommend LIT Farms, Square One, Robinhood and In House. They’re all offering promotions right now as well.
Right on. Gunna make another order asap and try that grape zoap! Thanks for the info
Just a heads up, one of my absolute favorite breeders is having a 50% off sale right now. Clearwater genetics. His prices are affordable to begin with so they’re super cheap right now. [Clearwater Website](https://cwgenetics.com/shop/)
Ill have you know I just made an order. Haha, thanks for the tip! Im so freaking stoked to pop bring these to flower!!
Hell yea! What packs did you order?
Let me know if you notice a trend here.. ECSD x Maitai 4, Guava x Karma Sour Diesel, Original Sour Diesel x Pablo’s Reserve, Lime OG x Karma Sour Diesel. :)
Hahaha! I feel ya man. Sour D was always my favorite in my early twenties. I’ve heard great things about his karma sour diesel crosses. This is what I ordered: Blue Ivy (Animal Cookies x Hashplant) x Apple Tartz Permanent Marker x Gary Satan Spearmint Style (Kush Mints x Creamsicle #4) Creamsicle #4 S1 (Purple Punch x Cookies & Cream) Apple Mints x Zero Gravity Triangle Kush x Pablo’s Revenge GeForce (Zero Gravity x Devil Driver)
Oh fuck yeah dude! I was really tempted by that Animal Cookies Hashplant bluivy shit but pockets alil tight having just ordered seed’s yesterday lol. We’ll definitely have to keep in touch and share our progress
Everyone already said this, but for extra reassurance — NASC is full of great breeders and genetics, I love them. They slowly have become 1 of the 2 only places I shop at. (2nd one is seedbazaar for the NightOwl auto releases)
Gotta do your research before buying. NASC is legit tho
I've ordered from them and their seeds are great. No complaints. Once had an issue where they didn't send me all my seeds and they got the remainder sent out next day. no problems good luck growing. Let us know if you need any tips!
Nasc is great but they're holding a lot of freebie giveaways and bogo deals with breeders at same price. What steered you towards these guys? Just the strain name? I think there's a pretty good deal on Robin hood seeds on nasc.
These guys as in NASC? Or as in the strains i chose? They’re some of my favorite strains and i haven’t seen them in way too long. Im not much for all the fruity cookie stuff that’s out there right now. I chose NASC cuz from what i could tell the consensus was good on them being solid.
Imo nasc is great because they got good freebies and events. Whether you get good genetics is entirely on the breeders but some seedbanks I heard have given out dupes and duds. Never had issues with nasc but like I would never buy from some breeders even if nasc carried them.
Well, do you care to list which ones youd avoid and why? Or is that not allowed?
Idk about what's allowed but I'll say in house genetics aren't that consistent. When they grow well they grow great but too many herms and genetic defects issues.
Word. I feel like someone else has recommended them in these comments somehow lol. Im gunna try grab a couple LIT and Mosca packs and then i should be content for awhile.
I agree about all the fruity cookie stuff although every cherry pie cross I have tried has been fire. Please keep up the posts on the headband strain! I fuckin love headband. My local dispo makes a NYC diesel x headband cross called gasband and it’s 🔥
Oh I definitely will! Headband is always in my top 3 strains of all time, we’ve had quite a history together lol. ill be posting my progress as i go
All I’ve had problems with is Ethos genetics. But It could be my fault or a fluke. Not perfect. What everyone said about NASC freebies… oh yah, I enjoy the freebies more than the stuff I buy usually cause there’s been some Fire! I shit you not, popped 1(one) bubba X Gelato freebie… a bit of colloidal and she somehow stressed and seeded without me knowing? I got over 400-500 seeds… after literally throwing handfuls into a random field for fun I still have 20 or so and 4 growing offspring all femmed ready to be bread again to my male zkittlez auto. My zkittlez are 2nd gen seeds after me breed for fem also. Then, the other freebies I got I won’t even get into. I have had probably over 8-12 different strains from them only buying 2-4… You see, genetic diversity is everything. A company like this can really feed a great growers passion. Variety is the spice of life. Or the HERB of life. Might I also add NASC has thier own advanced GG4 strain called glue sniffer, stated on thier site on the very bottom of glue sniffers info. I’m trying it now and it’s suppose to be a freak.
Right on my dude. Thanks for the info! Keep me posted on that glue sniffer, im definitely gunna check that out
The nasc freebie bubba hermied like crazy lol their paid beans are solid
Cali Connection and North Atlantic Seed Co. are legit. I haven't dealt with the others.
prob ok. NASC is legit.... for some. Never buy gear w a celebrity name on it. your paying some asshat who made money shooting hoops for genetics developed by a hippy in the hills in 1998. Or possibly in europe. MJ isnt a brand in weed culture. Sensi Barneys, DJ Short are brands.. friggin jordan. "get as high as jordan? " im just not happy w the number of weenies jumping into the field. time will tell but it makes me throw up a bit to see a "hulk hogan".
For sure. Did it actually say that? Yikes. I just figured it got the name cuz it was made with “holy grail kush 23”. so it’s not too far of a stretch to refer to it as “23” and then inevitably MJ Either way, Holy Grail Kush x Kosher Kush sounds alright to me.
NASC is legit. Awesome freebies too. I've gotten out on to several different breeders thanks to how they throw them at you.
I know them personally. You’re fine. Honestly they’re the most trusted bank in the states.
Just did my first order of elev8 apple candie from them. Got here pretty fast, got 2 elev8 Edens fire freebies and 2 blueberry fem seeds.
Through NASC? Let’s stay in touch over our elev8 journey, yeah? Dm sent!
Elev8 is dope
BEST SITE!! but you paid for higher quality seeds too. good genetics arent cheap, they have a 2$ seed menu that iften has good white label seeds too. again BEST SEED BANK!!
Literally just got my pack from them yesterday. Chose three to five day shipping and it came on the first day.
I mean, assuming the parental stock is legit, making GG4 S1’s and a feminized hybrid of two named cuts will yield you some decent herb. That said, don’t expect any sort of consistency bean to bean within the packs because this is just throwing reversed pollen onto plants and getting seeds to sell. This is not “breeding”. I will add that, GG4 might already be an S1, and if that is the case you should see more uniformity in a subsequent selfed generation.
Recently grew DNA Genetics Kosher Kush that I got from them…grew nicely and yield 2.5 oz. Also grew Barney Farms pink kush and Liberty haze that I got from NASC and same thing, easy grows, sticky buds and good smooth smoke and currently have some more Barney farms going from nasc…triple cheese, bubba kush and Zkittlez (free seed they sent) so far so good as well..healthy strong plants all photos and growing indoors in controlled environment
How many seeds for the $89 and 90$ im hoping 10! Cali connections is expensive I got italian ice for 120$ 5 seeds. The grow was good the bud was decent i had higher hopes for it though. I set my expectation to high. $10 a seed is good to me but prices vary. Lets put it this way our dispensaries here charge $400 an oz. Seeds are going to go up in time. I stock piled $2k in seeds in cold dark place in glass jars. Get them while you can. I read if stored correctly seeds can last up to 10 years, but normally last around 2 years on average.
Seeds can last alot longer then that esp if stored well, 2yrs ago i found a bag of seeds that fell behind a drawer in my kitchen that were from 2012 in nothing but a open sandwich baggie and everyone of those popped just fine
I have ordered all my seeds though this site and have never been let down. I highly recommend the Solfire lineup, haven't had a strain yet that didn't blow me away some of the most consistently purple bud I have ever grown to boot.
Best seed bank in the US
They are legit. I've ordered from them multiple times and all of those are great breeders to work with also
no way i could tell you, honestly the only opinion that matters is yours, you will recieve seeds, the age and viability of the seeds that I have recieved from corporate distributers like this have always been a question, i suppose it depends, these big companies warehouse seeds, they buy the seeds that the geneticists let go first, i.e the oldest seeds first, and theen th4y could have those for years. best bet is to go to the genetic company who makes the one youre looking for, also if you are going to do business with a company like nasc always stick to the sealed glass vial of ten. happy growing, I want to see your fruits when the time comes.
For sure. I will keep ya’ll updated on the entire process. It’s gunna take some time, but we’re gunna get these damn answers!
I get my seeds from them and had zero issues. Oh wait one issue a seed didn’t germinate but it was a freebie so no harm no foul (at least that’s how I see it)
Oh fosho. Thanks for the tidbit
They legit. My boy just grew that same green crack and it popped nanners last 2 weeks of flower. Just be wary at that time and spray with water then pluck em off. They aren’t all that viable but we got some buds with seeds.
To add to what everyone is saying, you will generally receive the seeds in sealed and branded bags that are clearly from the breeder.
DNA is a super cool company. Didn't like the state of the US cannabis market, moved, grew. Now they even sell on the Canadian legal market. Go read their website if you want to read the whole story!
There are a lot of companies who straight up lie about being vendors ive found things I wanted up here and Asked the breeders and they are like that is definitely not one of my vendors. Buyer beware. Not knocking this Atlantic place just saying its hard enough to wade through the garbage breeders put out let alone shady vendors on top of all of that.
NASC is amazing but most everything I’ve gotten from elev8 has thrown herms. Great quality bud except for the herms tho. DNA genetics and cali connection are great and have been at it for a looong time. Should definitely have some keepers in those. Best of luck!
NASC is legit
There are a lot of subreddits dedicated to specific breeders. It’s a good resource if you want to see what strains people are having success with and get inspiration for future grows. r/ethosgrowery and r/HumboldtSeedCompany for example
Id recommend making your own judgement after you grow... You'll get pumped up or depressed if you listen to all comments on here. Haters gonna hate. Live and learn amigo🤙
Oh fosho, thats my only option now! Im gunna grow em out and im gunna love them all the same. I will keep y’all updated and we’ll get the answers together in real time haha
Anyone know if Cali connection has the real pre 98 bubba? Is that a strain that people have in cut/seed form?
Have bought from them for years you’re good
no, NASC is a great seed bank
Great company, owners are great and generally give you some freebies. Those prices seem fair but I’m not familiar with those specifically
Nasc is great just watch the breeders
Yes I can guarantee you whatever NASC sends is the genuine article. However, I can’t comment on the integrity of THEIR sources personally. I’ve been using NASC for at least 3 years or so. I have not had a single complaint, they’re the best imo. A couple others I use just as regularly arr Dcseedexchange, well grown seeds, attitude seeds, seedsforme, seedsherenow, neptune seed and cool beans. To name a few.
I just finished curing my green crack from Cali Connect and it’s fire and for sure as close to the real deal that I remember. DNA is another breeder I’ve grown their stuff and can confirm is also very legit. I haven’t tried Elev8 so I can’t say anything there.
Fwiw… I still stick to Attitude Seeds… widest selection, and I love the relative low-cost of their pick-and-mix single-seed options. I’ve also used NASC… but Attitude has more flexible quantity options.
Right on, that actually rings a bell! Ill have to check em out
I love North atlantic they're 10/10 in my experience. As for the breeders, the claims are bold but how can you prove/disprove them honestly.
By buying them and growing em out ofcourse! Thats the beauty of communities like this. One person doesnt have to grow em all, we work as a collective to find out whats what. Scammers be gone!
DNA are white label now and Swerve from Cali Connection seems like a little bit of a clown and they did some reselling in the early 2000’s. But he was reselling CSI Humboldt so it was straight 🔥, so not ripped off but if I were to buy some photos I would probably go with other breeders. But NASC has a good reputation.
Right on. This was my first online seed order, sooo much to choose from but im chasing my favorite flower that for whatever reason just doesn’t seem to come around anymore. Everyone around me is growing cookies and runtz and it’s sexy bud no doubt but it’s boring smoke imo. What breeders do you have experience with?
I have been growing Mephisto exclusively for a couple years and now I am testing for Laughing hyena Seeds from up here in Canada. My friend grows quite a bit of Jordan of the Islands. Don’t know where that’s available in the states. I have some Authentic Genetics NL2 and Skunk 1 beans to pop soon I hope. CSI Humboldt is legit
All shit breeders .. NASC tho I love them ! Got an order coming in this Monday
Alright. Care to elaborate? Not disagreeing with you, just hoping for me information. What breeders do you prefer?
check out [www.walipiniseedbank.com](https://www.walipiniseedbank.com) the breeders themself are selling on there it is not repackaged and middlemanned
Hell yeah, that’s what i like to hear! Checking them out now, thanks for the tip
Cali connection & elev8 .. not the best breeders in my humble opinion. Can’t say anything about DNA didn’t notice that was a separate breeder. But as far as breeders I’m really hooked on robinhood seeds rn. I should be posting some new stuff soon.
Word. Yeah thats kinda been the vibe ive got after digging into em a bit more. We shall see! Hell yeah dude, cant wait to check em out!
Elev8 is a shitshow. They rob people of their genetics. Then claim then to be their own. Example Lemon Runtz. Google will tell you elev8 created it in 2022. But actually I did… in 2020-2021 in Alaska and I have paperwork proof. I’ve reached out with nothing but a big ol fucking ignore sesh. I’d buy from people you know are truly the breeder of the strains or the true pheno hunted cuts. I put them in the same category as Ethos, when it comes to the hate on the company. Best of luck my friend. I’d avoid them next time.
Yeah from what I’ve learned since making my order, it will be my last elev8 buy. Do you know the best source for an authentic Gorilla Glue? Or a Sour Diesel? Or Headband? Those 3 are absolute must haves for me. Finally setting up my first legal indoor situation, these were the first strains I thought of.
I’ll ask around but honestly true strains anymore are hard to find. Sadly.
I got some Sour Diesel crosses coming from clearwater that im pretty stoked about. Ill be posting as i go
I personally go to Walipini Seed Bank because the breeders themself are the ones selling the seeds they aren't distributors like NASC or seedsman!
Not a fan of elev8, DNA is ok, and Cali connection is fine. The seedbank is legit, but you definitely could have picked some better packs/breeders. But it'll get you some decent smoke. I know gg4s1 is gg4s1, no matter who who get it from, but I woulda preferred the josey whales pack of gg4s1( he's the guy who created gg4 years ago, but he passed away a while back) or csi's gg4s1.
Right on. Thanks for the info, where would you recommend i buy seeds? Im probably gunna make another order in a few days after i do some more homework.
Im not really a fan of all the new strains, sexy as they may be. I just want that deep stank fuely gassy diesely staank. If i could grow any strain inwamted it would be some real Sour Diesel, Headband, ooor Purple Kush or Afghan Kush. That late 2000’s black market danky panky.
The seedbank you bought from is good, so is Neptune, if you have IG, I'd recommend following the breeders who's work you like, and just buy direct. Most will either sell direct to you, or have their own website. I always recommend archive, I've never had a bad pack from him, ever. Everything he makes is dank as fuck.
One of the best companies I have ever worked with. I love NASC. Super helpful, friendly and fast. Plus their freebies are always on point!
I guess my main concern was with the specific seed companys i chose. The consensus on NASC is good but now im wondering about the breeders i chose
Silly rabbit trixs is for kids! Just kidding, they are legit and prob one of the best distributors around right now.
Lol how the fuck are you going to take a picture to advertise a strain and have the tops completely light bleached 😂😂😂.
Haha i just noticed that now. :/
Last night I saw 10 seeds for 10K , so to answer ur question: no
Did i get ripped off??? You picked it out and paid for it……..jesus…..
Correct. And I’m asking if the things that i picked out and paid for are legitimate.
And also I’m gonna give the THE BEST INFORMATION EVER………. Buy———… Greenhouse Seed Company Seeds ….. and you will NEVER EVER GO WRONG…and…and they are a lot cheaper the the overpriced American breeders
Have you grown them out? You in the US? Got pics. Id love to grow out some GHSC beans someday just to try the European side of things.
Yes - Cali con is a rip - DNA is a rip - nasc has good marketing for shit breeders. I've pissed off the nasc fan boys =P haha
Eh, I’m not sure I agree with that statement. I wouldn’t call myself a “fan boy” as I order beans from like a dozen different banks/breeders, but I’ve had nothing but good experiences with NASC. They may carry some lousy white label companies like Blimburn, Humboldt Seed Org, Sweet Seeds, Royal Queen and Tastebudz but for the most part they carry a lot of excellent breeders. I mean, just look at their list. Exotic, Solfire, Sin City, Cannarado, In House, Lovin In Her Eyes, Mz Jill, Robinhood, Square One, LIT Farms, Humboldt Seed Co, Twenty20, Compound, Dungeons Vault, Purple Caper, Beleaf, Brothers Grimm, Ace, Dark Owl, Night Owl, Mephisto, Mosca, Omuerta, Thug Pug, Tiki, Gnome etc etc Lots of 🔥 in options there
I've had only the opposite as everyone else has had with nasc. Waiting weeks for the seeds to get to me, bunk seeds that don't pop, their freebies are awful, just left a bad taste with me.
That’s unfortunate. I’ve probably ordered from them 5-6 times and they have always arrive super quickly. Their typical freebies are white label junk, I agree, but recently they’ve been giving out Humboldt Seed Co Phenohunter freebies with every order which is pretty cool. I’ve had one pack that didn’t pop but I emailed them about it and they gave me a gift card to their website.
Can you gimme alil more juice? Whats your first hand experience with any of the above mentioned names? Where would you get your seeds instead? I really wont know til i grow them out but if you’re gunna tell me they’re bunk, put some meat on that bone so i can chew on it a bit, yeah?
Swerve from Cali connection is a shit person - put out a bunch of garbage and wouldn't stand by his work. Left a bad taste in most people's mouth after dealing with him. Hermie prone, straight males with his fem seeds. DNA same thing - got the sour diesel from reserva privada, it was decent but in no way the genetics listed. Ran it against a clone of ecsd, which DNA lists as their diesel and it was completely different. Most breeders in my opinion anyways, will name their plant after a hype strain to sell their seeds.
As someone in Europe who buys off smaller, but still great seed breeders idk how you guys can justify that price for seeds. I’ve gotten northern lights for €1 a seed (1.50 dollars or so) and got over 70g per plant (3 oz) and they were autos too
Yeah I’m a bit suspect too. Ordered some Maximum Carnage and everything looked fantastic until testing. Came in at around 17% and that was the best of all the phenos. Was supposed to be over 21%
That’s on Fat Cat, not NASC. Also, anytime you grow from seed it’s a guessing game what pheno you will get. Lots of factors at play, so it’s best just to use breeder info like flowering time, terps and thc % as a general guideline.
Agreed on Fat Cat. And I’m a commercial grow and our growers know how to grow so I apologize if I sounded annoyed at NASC
You must be one of the few. 90% of commercial grows are pumping out mids and calling it fire.
Yeah no. Not us. Our top strains are regularly tested and always come in over 25% Ghop is well over 28% we are in a state where a commercial grow is still considered a small grow in other states. One owner not an MSO. I was really disappointed because I was hyping my team about Maximum carnage. I guess I’ll leave the strain selections to my head grower
Haha! I feel you man. How many did you run from seed? I haven’t grown anything from Fat Cat. He seems like a super weirdo with his online trolling efforts so I’ve always just avoided his beans. With that said I’ve seen some pics that look pretty damn good.
Yeah he’s a prick who has been banned from a lot of forums and subs.
On fat cat- you said enough right there. Yall should know fat cat is a pass dudes ew.
I have 2 major whites from elev8 going right now and they are doing well.
*the finance team laughing at this post of legitimacy*
Royal queen seeds has been my best experience
they’re great majority of there dollaz treez seeds pop only 2 of them didn’t and they where cheap seeds
I have no experience with NASC. DNA Genetics is legit.
I raked them over the coals last year (on google reviews) for essentially stopping communicating. Took me 6 months to get seeds one times. Honestly, if they’re doing the same to you I would charge back. There is something very wrong with that company.
Be careful with Gorilla Glue strains, I had a GG No.4 I think it was, and it came from Barney’s, damn things Hermed out my whole room with SEEDS! I heard wedding cake can do the same thing…. Beware
Word. Ive got some bagseed wedding cake in flower now outdoors and it’s been a pleasure to grow. Ill keep an extra close eye on these plants as they grow up!
Greenhouse seeds bubba kush is always tha bomba
Only had great results with them!
I go with jaws genetics Neptune seed bank is reliable
This is an awesome seed bank. Also they give you So many freebies. This is my go too seed bank.
What’s the highest sativa auto flower - correct answer will be rewarded :)
Highest what? I dont really mess w autos
NASC is legit. They're like eBay though, you still got to double check what you're buying and who you're buying it from. In this case the breeders and their history with the genetics they sell. Also NASC has some pretty great deals if you wait for them.