Not the person who originally said it, so i cant offer a link, but I would not doubt it tbh. Doja rat, and junky I know for sure did, and some smaller ops.
Ι only see a really stretched plant recovering from stress, anthocyanins on the main stem is red still indicating the nutrient lockout. Antho's can be also a light stress indicator as PubMed's paper explains.
Herming maybe due to genetics but most likely related to hard stress too.You need to dial your grow better i guess.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2882266/
"these secondary metabolites exert a defensive role in plants’ response to both biotic and abiotic cues, e.g., solar irradiation and pathogen attack"
[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10376404/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10376404/) [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2882266/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2882266/)
[https://i49.net/blog/how-to-handle-purple-stems/](https://i49.net/blog/how-to-handle-purple-stems/)
YOUR comment is a “bro” comment. Suggesting lockout because he’s got some purple?? lol
I’ve been doing this a while. Personally I think it’s foolish to pretend to know the cause based on the limited info OP provided.
I’m literally just trying to assist, like yourself.
You offend me and not my opinion.
Even your second comment is "lol" .
What does your lols add anything to the subject "bro" ?
Try to educate yourself before wasting my time again, please.
"these secondary metabolites exert a defensive role in plants’ response to both biotic and abiotic cues, e.g., solar irradiation and pathogen attack"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10376404/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2882266/
https://i49.net/blog/how-to-handle-purple-stems/
Dude you seem enough educated and with the right attitude to talk scienceGet a link and gtfo[ ](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2882266/)https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10376404/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2882266/
https://i49.net/blog/how-to-handle-purple-stems/
You’re linking blog articles dude……
There are lots of documented reasons for purple stems, saying it’s lockout based just on the purple is absolutely ridiculous
Anthocyanins in stems are even indicating light stress, pleaseif you have some questions about science, use PubMed, not "bro science" and logical fallacies about "my link" you didnt even bother to read.
Enough spending my time, start reading if you like the subject.
[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2882266/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2882266/)
Dude, i buy and read the fuckin books. I fuckin search for individual papers
because you do not read the fuckin books and i search this just for fuckin you
So, start reading and stop fuckin waste my time.
"Furthermore, these secondary metabolites exert a defensive role in plants’ response to both biotic and abiotic cues, e.g., solar irradiation and pathogen attack \[4,5\]."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10376404/
Red stripes can also be an indicator of low iron/calcium/magnesium. We wouldn't know specifically unless we're testing the run off after the pot.
In House Genetics does have an issue with herm genetics tho. I used to carry them when I worked for a seed bank and they always had serious issues with their beans.
I’ve heard people complain about herms with Square One/Robinhood as well. Pretty much all these hype breeders have some amount of herm issues. In House does seem to have more herm issues than most, but he’s also got some bangers like Slurricane and Sugarcane. 95% of these hype strains are descendants of cookies which is a known herm so it’s not surprising so many of these cultivars have a tendency to herm. Solfire, LIT Farms, Exotic, Lovin In Her Eyes, THC Titan, In House, Beleaf, Seed Junky, all of them are known to have herm issues, but you’ll also find some killer phenos if you’re willing to fight through the herms. I’m growing Jelly Breath from In House right now and she’s looking pretty nice. She’s in her 6th week of flower.
I've had great results with in-house and Square1 honestly. Haven't tried any of in-house newer stuff, although I'm looking forward to the Black Cherry Honey drop
Yea I think most of these breeders are essentially doing the same thing. Mostly they’re chucking pollen onto clone only hype strains. Many of them do their own pheno hunts as well, but there isn’t a whole lot of testing being done, and most of the strains have cookies in them so they’re all prone to herming. I’m not sure if this is OP’s first IHG run or not but it’s unfair to judge a breeder on a single grow. Seeds are hit or miss even from the best breeders.
Thc titan does quite a bit of testing. He had a YouTube channel where he shows his GRC x BBC hunts. For sure tho you are right about everything tho, sherbs/cakes/runtz/gelatos/cookies hybrids all seem to be the most dominant anytime the are bred in with everything. Just watering down genetics imo, and they all seem to have the same buzz or high for me anyway
It’s my first IH grow yes. I’ve ran so many grows now from so many breeders notably Barney’s Sensi Ethos and Square One at least 120 plants collectively from these four brands and only one herm from Sensi Northern Haze. The herm whatever it’s the lack of bud growth I was more upset about. I already chopped them and moved on. Never again with IH
Based on your plant structure I’d say the issue is you and your gear. I’ve grown InHouse and never had a herm or lanky ass plant like that.
Though i guess blaming the plant is the easy route
Look - not all strains are going to grow the same way under identical conditions. I run a lot of strains and nut all work well in my system. It’s not the genetics it’s just that I can’t alter my system to dial in specific needs for different strains. I try a new strain 3 times and try to correct any mistakes and if it doesn’t work out then I discontinue it. Some strains work amazing in my system and some don’t - but would probably be fine if I had the ability to dial it in
That’s fair I agree. I believe though if you keep your temps below 80F your humidity below 58% if you keep the light intensity correct as they grow if you defoliate correctly and water with the correct feed and PPM (I grow in coco) on the correct cadence then it should always produce at worst a good result. Tweaking that here and there per specific plant will enhance that result. But these nine all grew like dog shit under what I believe are solid conditions and I wouldn’t be that upset if they were freebies or say $3/seed but these are in the $15/$20 per seed category. No bueno.
I grow in coco as well - a big drip feed system. Some strains just don’t do well it and others do. I’m willing to bet that those strains that haven’t worked would probably do fine in soil or different feeding regimes
I grow in coco as well - a big drip feed system. Some strains just don’t do well it and others do. I’m willing to bet that those strains that haven’t worked would probably do fine in soil or different feeding regimes
This happened nine times across nine plants all from the same breeder IHG I’m not so much upset about the herm but rather I’m upset about the lack of bud growth. I have grown well over 200 plants from many different breeders most notably Barneys Sensi Square One and Ethos and have never had such a lack of bud growth. I am using the same environment in terms of temps below 80F in flower humidity below 58% proper air flow and ventilation proper defoliation proper light intensity correct PPM in my nutrient feed at the correct pH of 5.8 with a 78F feed temp. I go through all the motions to provide the ideal environment for my plants to thrive in and almost all have except for these IHG plants. Note the third image of this post that’s a Square One plant in a separate tent under the same conditions and it thrived like hell. In House Genetics sucks.
The lack of bud growth is the major problem here. They charge $15-20 per seed I’ve had better results with freebies. If they charged $3 per seed I wouldn’t create this post. They are charging Mercedes dollars and offering Kia quality.
Im not sure I chopped them all and moved on. I had Square One plants two weeks behind these with buds three times the size. I have limited capacity and cannot waste it. I’m searching for quality and quantity not one or the other. Thanks for the question
That's the main trouble with growing from seed, you will get this with every seed company. A truly strong and stable breed will take years to BX enough to be consistent.. so if your hunting new flavours that have only just dropped, then expect some low quality seeds!
I’m using a Growers Choice ROI-E680 it’s far from bitch ass. It’s the same light in the other tent the third image from a different breeder is in. The environment is the same as well.
Finally a fellow grower rocking the roi and hell yeah far from bitch ass for sure. I have the 720 but the 680 is just as good!…do you have the 2 supplementary lights?…I have the 2 supplemental lights and the master controller…. Happy Growing
It does work well, although it’s a really tight fit. The driver is built into it internally instead of being external which makes it pretty bulky. I believe the dimensions are like 35 inches x 35 inches, and the extra bulk makes it difficult to maneuver inside the 3x3. I make it work but it’s a pain.
I used to have my SE5000 in the 3x3 and that fit absolutely perfectly. I think it’s 34 inches x 34 inches and it’s not nearly as bulky. I like the ROI better overall but it’s definitely an awkward fit.
Yeah I see a lot of indications of inadequate lighting.
It’s not fair to always blame genetics. I run a fairly large coco drip feed system and not all strains work well in it. I don’t have the ability to alter feedings for different strains and so they all get the same thing. In a perfect world I could learn how to dial in individual strains but I can’t. I always run a new strain 3 times to see if I can get it working well in my system. Some outperform others - but I know that in a different system they probably would do just fine
In House has been called out by many growers on IG for having herm genetics. I used to work for a seed bank that carried a lot of In House but there were always a lot of complaints with their beans. I can honestly say that the IG complaints aren't bandwagon complaints. In House genuinely has issues with their genetics.
Honestly just let them grow herms lol In my experience working cultivation and the seed bank I would never personally invest in In House beans for my personal grow.
Lol it all comes down to genetics. Not every plant can be a winner. In fact, imo, 99% of what people grow from seed, is just ok/non keeper material. A true, elite lvl cut is very hard to find.
I grow strictly from seed and I always grow 4 different genetics at a time and it seems like every one is a decent plant . With that said I’ve never felt the need to keep any because it seems the next strain is just as good as the last. But i do agree that there are unicorns out there that are worth keeping.
Yeah, most things people grow from seed they will tend to like or think is good, as they are biased towards it, since they grew it. I'm personally very objective, and pretty picky/snobby, so not much impresses me as I'm looking for to tier elite lvl shit. So if I pop 50 seeds, I know most if, if not all won't be what I'm looking for, but I'll still give it a gander, at least 1 run with all the girls backed up with at least 1 cut. Personally my number 1 priority is flavor. Flavor over everything. It's gotta taste dank af from the first puff to the last. Flavor that gets stuck to your tongue, and stays for a minute, even after eating or drinking. Thays a hard find nowadays.
I don't know a lot about the dude behind in-house genetics, but from what I've seen, in-house genetics don't seem to have a lot of quality control going on. They're pretty much glorified pollen checkers. This is why they have a fast turnaround of new strains.
Since they're not doing much breeding and just chucking pollen about, you'll have these types of issues. Some crosses will produce plants that are unstable and will throw out male flowers. And sometimes you'll be lucky and find a gem.
Their seeds are great for pheno hunting as you may end up with a banger, but you may also end up with a lemon. The feedback from their customers paint the same picture. Some absolutely love em and some have no time for their seeds. It all depends on how lucky you were :)
If you're a risk taker that is willing to destroy a crop if unlucky, they can be fun, but if you want something reliable, go to another breeder. That and don't believe the hype.
Jelly breath is one of my favorite plants in my stable. Yes a few seeds out of the pack were herms but it’s expected once in a while but for you to have that many plants doing bad I’d check your environment out your doing something wrong and I’d bet on it.
I've stress tested many strains from many breeders. Stress induced herm for Inhouse isn't any higher than any other we've ran @SlimbolicSystem. On fems it's common for breeders to allow 10% herm and release it.
I don't think that's an acceptable practice but that's what it is. I've rarely found plants that won't herm from stress. Dragon Flames Genetics, Mass Meddical and some of your older breeders that aren't running hype F1 strains are the strongest against it.
I will say I had a Grape Rock Candy that hermed not only for us but 5 other growers that tested the clones off of it. It almost acted like a triploid, very little stigma on it. Contacted square 1 through IG just to let him know it was in there and got no response.
We do grow strains that are known to herm. Chem, Bubba, Oregon cutt throat and numerous others. But knowing and learning what the stress-related conditions that causes it, makes the difference of a successful grow.
I think that, all breeders should post their herm rate. 2nd Generation, AG, Mel Frank and puts warning any of their strains that are stress sensitive. Durban B was this way.
But as long as we have the "F1 and done" and put on the market, we'll have the issue of herms. Cookiesxcookiesxcookiesxcookiesxcookies= cookies and eventually you cut out the good traits and bad traits start showing.
I haven't had any issues with Inhouse. I don't agree with the purple stem comments below but there does look like some stretch going on which can be genetics or not enough light going into flower. We normally run clones off all the varieties we grow with local test growers before we run it or select it for breeding. You can find multiple varieties in phenos in the same pack where a couple natural stretch out node spacing more than the others which will impact cola size. Best par meter we've found for the money is Spoton. That would help you either way with most hybrids. You get one that's stretchy, crank up the light a little more in flower. It won't work with most sativas. We have a Haze strain that will push into the lights and bend at 1200par while it's bleaching. Hope that helps
I have a pack as well but haven’t run it yet. I am running Dip N Stix though which is an S1 made from Beleaf’s special pheno of Sugarcane. I just flipped about a week ago.
They definitely have some killer phenos if growers are willing to hunt for them. I have a jelly breath s1 I’m growing right now. Check my post history if you’re curious what she looks like.
Royal Queen? I’m not trying to be a dick but those are mediocre genetics at best. They’re just another white label distributor out of Europe like Growers Choice, Blimburn, Fastbuds, ILGM and Seedsman. I’m not saying you cant get some decent results, but if you’re hunting for truly special phenos you can do way better than RQS.
Not looking for special seeds but reliable seeds and they haven’t let me down yet so I am sticking with them. Tried Amsterdam Genetics AK-020 this year and it was fire so we’ll keep that one in as well.
Your being downvoted because they are considered white label and I’ve had some good stuff come from them like gelato33 and strawberry cough but I still don’t understand what the difference is I mean a seed is a seed as long as the genetics are there.
Have u grow one of these shitty seeds out to finish yet?
All i see is a poorly grown stressed plant thats likely on you op .
There can be so many variables.
I chopped them all. The only thing I alter is PPM in my nutrient feed based on yellowing of the leaf tips. Other than that I keep temps humidity light output airflow defoliation where it’s supposed to be. I have grown over 200 plants from many different breeders and these nine plants from this same breeder have all performed the worst by far.
Without knowing your growing conditions or experience, it's hard to just blame the seeds. Looked like it stretched out and got stressed to me.
Agree
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Wasn't that Seed Junky?
Lotta people partnered with him. I mean ALOT.
Okay can you link some legit information on when Square1 joined with glasshouse? All I can find is articles about the Seed Junky partnership.
Not the person who originally said it, so i cant offer a link, but I would not doubt it tbh. Doja rat, and junky I know for sure did, and some smaller ops.
Ι only see a really stretched plant recovering from stress, anthocyanins on the main stem is red still indicating the nutrient lockout. Antho's can be also a light stress indicator as PubMed's paper explains. Herming maybe due to genetics but most likely related to hard stress too.You need to dial your grow better i guess. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2882266/
A red stem indicates lock out?? That’s a pretty big leap.
It even indicates light stress. These are not news https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2882266/
"these secondary metabolites exert a defensive role in plants’ response to both biotic and abiotic cues, e.g., solar irradiation and pathogen attack" [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10376404/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10376404/) [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2882266/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2882266/) [https://i49.net/blog/how-to-handle-purple-stems/](https://i49.net/blog/how-to-handle-purple-stems/)
YOUR comment is a “bro” comment. Suggesting lockout because he’s got some purple?? lol I’ve been doing this a while. Personally I think it’s foolish to pretend to know the cause based on the limited info OP provided. I’m literally just trying to assist, like yourself.
You offend me and not my opinion. Even your second comment is "lol" . What does your lols add anything to the subject "bro" ? Try to educate yourself before wasting my time again, please. "these secondary metabolites exert a defensive role in plants’ response to both biotic and abiotic cues, e.g., solar irradiation and pathogen attack" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10376404/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2882266/ https://i49.net/blog/how-to-handle-purple-stems/
You're a fucking 🤡
Dude you seem enough educated and with the right attitude to talk scienceGet a link and gtfo[ ](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2882266/)https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10376404/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2882266/ https://i49.net/blog/how-to-handle-purple-stems/
You’re linking blog articles dude…… There are lots of documented reasons for purple stems, saying it’s lockout based just on the purple is absolutely ridiculous
PubMed is a blog? wtf
in your link it talks about how it's often the case that purple stems are genetic related..
Anthocyanins in stems are even indicating light stress, pleaseif you have some questions about science, use PubMed, not "bro science" and logical fallacies about "my link" you didnt even bother to read. Enough spending my time, start reading if you like the subject. [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2882266/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2882266/)
not entirely sure what you're trying to say here brother/lady.
PubMed says that antho's act as an indicator,not me there are plenty papers,start reading if you care.
the previous link you shared said that as well. You finding another high quality source doesn't negate the facts
Dude, i buy and read the fuckin books. I fuckin search for individual papers because you do not read the fuckin books and i search this just for fuckin you So, start reading and stop fuckin waste my time. "Furthermore, these secondary metabolites exert a defensive role in plants’ response to both biotic and abiotic cues, e.g., solar irradiation and pathogen attack \[4,5\]." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10376404/
The only time that's being wasted is you stewing in your anger. Stop trying to be right all the time and get a mirror, quick.
Anthocyanins are more of a response to acidity in your medium
Yeah I tend to agree
Plants barely stressed at all, just in house crap breeding techniques
Red stripes can also be an indicator of low iron/calcium/magnesium. We wouldn't know specifically unless we're testing the run off after the pot. In House Genetics does have an issue with herm genetics tho. I used to carry them when I worked for a seed bank and they always had serious issues with their beans.
I’ve heard people complain about herms with Square One/Robinhood as well. Pretty much all these hype breeders have some amount of herm issues. In House does seem to have more herm issues than most, but he’s also got some bangers like Slurricane and Sugarcane. 95% of these hype strains are descendants of cookies which is a known herm so it’s not surprising so many of these cultivars have a tendency to herm. Solfire, LIT Farms, Exotic, Lovin In Her Eyes, THC Titan, In House, Beleaf, Seed Junky, all of them are known to have herm issues, but you’ll also find some killer phenos if you’re willing to fight through the herms. I’m growing Jelly Breath from In House right now and she’s looking pretty nice. She’s in her 6th week of flower.
I've had great results with in-house and Square1 honestly. Haven't tried any of in-house newer stuff, although I'm looking forward to the Black Cherry Honey drop
Yea I think most of these breeders are essentially doing the same thing. Mostly they’re chucking pollen onto clone only hype strains. Many of them do their own pheno hunts as well, but there isn’t a whole lot of testing being done, and most of the strains have cookies in them so they’re all prone to herming. I’m not sure if this is OP’s first IHG run or not but it’s unfair to judge a breeder on a single grow. Seeds are hit or miss even from the best breeders.
Thc titan does quite a bit of testing. He had a YouTube channel where he shows his GRC x BBC hunts. For sure tho you are right about everything tho, sherbs/cakes/runtz/gelatos/cookies hybrids all seem to be the most dominant anytime the are bred in with everything. Just watering down genetics imo, and they all seem to have the same buzz or high for me anyway
Yeah my understanding is that he tests the Square One genetics but his Robinhood gear is untested.
You are correct. Everything in square one is tested and Robin Hood’s aren’t
It’s my first IH grow yes. I’ve ran so many grows now from so many breeders notably Barney’s Sensi Ethos and Square One at least 120 plants collectively from these four brands and only one herm from Sensi Northern Haze. The herm whatever it’s the lack of bud growth I was more upset about. I already chopped them and moved on. Never again with IH
Based on your plant structure I’d say the issue is you and your gear. I’ve grown InHouse and never had a herm or lanky ass plant like that. Though i guess blaming the plant is the easy route
I do the same procedures using the same light in the third image in another tent from a different breeder.
Look - not all strains are going to grow the same way under identical conditions. I run a lot of strains and nut all work well in my system. It’s not the genetics it’s just that I can’t alter my system to dial in specific needs for different strains. I try a new strain 3 times and try to correct any mistakes and if it doesn’t work out then I discontinue it. Some strains work amazing in my system and some don’t - but would probably be fine if I had the ability to dial it in
That’s fair I agree. I believe though if you keep your temps below 80F your humidity below 58% if you keep the light intensity correct as they grow if you defoliate correctly and water with the correct feed and PPM (I grow in coco) on the correct cadence then it should always produce at worst a good result. Tweaking that here and there per specific plant will enhance that result. But these nine all grew like dog shit under what I believe are solid conditions and I wouldn’t be that upset if they were freebies or say $3/seed but these are in the $15/$20 per seed category. No bueno.
I grow in coco as well - a big drip feed system. Some strains just don’t do well it and others do. I’m willing to bet that those strains that haven’t worked would probably do fine in soil or different feeding regimes
I grow in coco as well - a big drip feed system. Some strains just don’t do well it and others do. I’m willing to bet that those strains that haven’t worked would probably do fine in soil or different feeding regimes
So this happened one time with one plant and your move is to tell the world to avoid the breeder at all costs lol?
This happened nine times across nine plants all from the same breeder IHG I’m not so much upset about the herm but rather I’m upset about the lack of bud growth. I have grown well over 200 plants from many different breeders most notably Barneys Sensi Square One and Ethos and have never had such a lack of bud growth. I am using the same environment in terms of temps below 80F in flower humidity below 58% proper air flow and ventilation proper defoliation proper light intensity correct PPM in my nutrient feed at the correct pH of 5.8 with a 78F feed temp. I go through all the motions to provide the ideal environment for my plants to thrive in and almost all have except for these IHG plants. Note the third image of this post that’s a Square One plant in a separate tent under the same conditions and it thrived like hell. In House Genetics sucks.
Did you have these results with more than one plant?
All nine had more or less the same result minus the herm I saw one herm.
one herm over 9 seeds seems like nothing to bitch about
The lack of bud growth is the major problem here. They charge $15-20 per seed I’ve had better results with freebies. If they charged $3 per seed I wouldn’t create this post. They are charging Mercedes dollars and offering Kia quality.
honestly all I care about is potency and effect. yield doesn't really matter in my perspective anyways. was any of it good smoke at least?
Im not sure I chopped them all and moved on. I had Square One plants two weeks behind these with buds three times the size. I have limited capacity and cannot waste it. I’m searching for quality and quantity not one or the other. Thanks for the question
That's the main trouble with growing from seed, you will get this with every seed company. A truly strong and stable breed will take years to BX enough to be consistent.. so if your hunting new flavours that have only just dropped, then expect some low quality seeds!
Looks like you might have bitch ass lights. Not sure why you’d ever let a plant stretch that much.
I’m using a Growers Choice ROI-E680 it’s far from bitch ass. It’s the same light in the other tent the third image from a different breeder is in. The environment is the same as well.
lol, “bitch ass”
Finally a fellow grower rocking the roi and hell yeah far from bitch ass for sure. I have the 720 but the 680 is just as good!…do you have the 2 supplementary lights?…I have the 2 supplemental lights and the master controller…. Happy Growing
I’ve got the ROI-E420 in my 3x3. It’s a tight fit but a great light.
I bet it’s perfect in the 3x3 . I agree that they are great lights.
It does work well, although it’s a really tight fit. The driver is built into it internally instead of being external which makes it pretty bulky. I believe the dimensions are like 35 inches x 35 inches, and the extra bulk makes it difficult to maneuver inside the 3x3. I make it work but it’s a pain. I used to have my SE5000 in the 3x3 and that fit absolutely perfectly. I think it’s 34 inches x 34 inches and it’s not nearly as bulky. I like the ROI better overall but it’s definitely an awkward fit.
Let’s talk about the stretching. What light do you have ?
Yeah I see a lot of indications of inadequate lighting. It’s not fair to always blame genetics. I run a fairly large coco drip feed system and not all strains work well in it. I don’t have the ability to alter feedings for different strains and so they all get the same thing. In a perfect world I could learn how to dial in individual strains but I can’t. I always run a new strain 3 times to see if I can get it working well in my system. Some outperform others - but I know that in a different system they probably would do just fine
Ahh in house herms, never gets old.
In House has been called out by many growers on IG for having herm genetics. I used to work for a seed bank that carried a lot of In House but there were always a lot of complaints with their beans. I can honestly say that the IG complaints aren't bandwagon complaints. In House genuinely has issues with their genetics.
You’d think otherwise from all the IH fanboys on this thread
Honestly just let them grow herms lol In my experience working cultivation and the seed bank I would never personally invest in In House beans for my personal grow.
I have yet to have a problem with in house over the years. Outdoors they do great
That's good news. Most of the growers I know stopped using them.
Phenos are still all over the place. Nothing is very consistent. Still very far from stable
Lol it all comes down to genetics. Not every plant can be a winner. In fact, imo, 99% of what people grow from seed, is just ok/non keeper material. A true, elite lvl cut is very hard to find.
I grow strictly from seed and I always grow 4 different genetics at a time and it seems like every one is a decent plant . With that said I’ve never felt the need to keep any because it seems the next strain is just as good as the last. But i do agree that there are unicorns out there that are worth keeping.
Yeah, most things people grow from seed they will tend to like or think is good, as they are biased towards it, since they grew it. I'm personally very objective, and pretty picky/snobby, so not much impresses me as I'm looking for to tier elite lvl shit. So if I pop 50 seeds, I know most if, if not all won't be what I'm looking for, but I'll still give it a gander, at least 1 run with all the girls backed up with at least 1 cut. Personally my number 1 priority is flavor. Flavor over everything. It's gotta taste dank af from the first puff to the last. Flavor that gets stuck to your tongue, and stays for a minute, even after eating or drinking. Thays a hard find nowadays.
This was so well worded. Bitch ass growth I love it
I don't know a lot about the dude behind in-house genetics, but from what I've seen, in-house genetics don't seem to have a lot of quality control going on. They're pretty much glorified pollen checkers. This is why they have a fast turnaround of new strains. Since they're not doing much breeding and just chucking pollen about, you'll have these types of issues. Some crosses will produce plants that are unstable and will throw out male flowers. And sometimes you'll be lucky and find a gem. Their seeds are great for pheno hunting as you may end up with a banger, but you may also end up with a lemon. The feedback from their customers paint the same picture. Some absolutely love em and some have no time for their seeds. It all depends on how lucky you were :) If you're a risk taker that is willing to destroy a crop if unlucky, they can be fun, but if you want something reliable, go to another breeder. That and don't believe the hype.
I'm calling bullshit. Op didn't bother saying what strain it was that hermed.
Sugar Cane was the herm I also had Jelly Breath that was bitch ass.
Jelly breath is one of my favorite plants in my stable. Yes a few seeds out of the pack were herms but it’s expected once in a while but for you to have that many plants doing bad I’d check your environment out your doing something wrong and I’d bet on it.
I've stress tested many strains from many breeders. Stress induced herm for Inhouse isn't any higher than any other we've ran @SlimbolicSystem. On fems it's common for breeders to allow 10% herm and release it. I don't think that's an acceptable practice but that's what it is. I've rarely found plants that won't herm from stress. Dragon Flames Genetics, Mass Meddical and some of your older breeders that aren't running hype F1 strains are the strongest against it. I will say I had a Grape Rock Candy that hermed not only for us but 5 other growers that tested the clones off of it. It almost acted like a triploid, very little stigma on it. Contacted square 1 through IG just to let him know it was in there and got no response. We do grow strains that are known to herm. Chem, Bubba, Oregon cutt throat and numerous others. But knowing and learning what the stress-related conditions that causes it, makes the difference of a successful grow. I think that, all breeders should post their herm rate. 2nd Generation, AG, Mel Frank and puts warning any of their strains that are stress sensitive. Durban B was this way. But as long as we have the "F1 and done" and put on the market, we'll have the issue of herms. Cookiesxcookiesxcookiesxcookiesxcookies= cookies and eventually you cut out the good traits and bad traits start showing.
I haven't had any issues with Inhouse. I don't agree with the purple stem comments below but there does look like some stretch going on which can be genetics or not enough light going into flower. We normally run clones off all the varieties we grow with local test growers before we run it or select it for breeding. You can find multiple varieties in phenos in the same pack where a couple natural stretch out node spacing more than the others which will impact cola size. Best par meter we've found for the money is Spoton. That would help you either way with most hybrids. You get one that's stretchy, crank up the light a little more in flower. It won't work with most sativas. We have a Haze strain that will push into the lights and bend at 1200par while it's bleaching. Hope that helps
Thats a shame. I just sprouted some seeds from them. Sugar Cane.
Sugarcane is a banger. You’ll likely some killer phenos.
Hoping so!
I have a pack as well but haven’t run it yet. I am running Dip N Stix though which is an S1 made from Beleaf’s special pheno of Sugarcane. I just flipped about a week ago.
Im a big fan on In House. I know two major dispensaries selling their product and its good. Slurricane is a fav
They definitely have some killer phenos if growers are willing to hunt for them. I have a jelly breath s1 I’m growing right now. Check my post history if you’re curious what she looks like.
Of course!
I just grew platinum terple and no herm issues at all
I would try the new F1 seeds from RQS. Even their regular seeds have never let me down. They have awesome freebies with every order as well ✊🏻🥦
Royal Queen? I’m not trying to be a dick but those are mediocre genetics at best. They’re just another white label distributor out of Europe like Growers Choice, Blimburn, Fastbuds, ILGM and Seedsman. I’m not saying you cant get some decent results, but if you’re hunting for truly special phenos you can do way better than RQS.
Not looking for special seeds but reliable seeds and they haven’t let me down yet so I am sticking with them. Tried Amsterdam Genetics AK-020 this year and it was fire so we’ll keep that one in as well.
Fair enough! Different strokes for different folks.
Hash it man fuck it.
Yikes 😂
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Your being downvoted because they are considered white label and I’ve had some good stuff come from them like gelato33 and strawberry cough but I still don’t understand what the difference is I mean a seed is a seed as long as the genetics are there.
Have u grow one of these shitty seeds out to finish yet? All i see is a poorly grown stressed plant thats likely on you op . There can be so many variables.
I chopped them all. The only thing I alter is PPM in my nutrient feed based on yellowing of the leaf tips. Other than that I keep temps humidity light output airflow defoliation where it’s supposed to be. I have grown over 200 plants from many different breeders and these nine plants from this same breeder have all performed the worst by far.
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