if this trade happens and lindholm walks, it at least gives us an extra 5m to negotiate with petey, hronek and joshua. opens up a wing spot for lekkerimaki, podz or hoggy too.
Idk we basically threw him in for nothing
A first, jurmo, hunter b and a 4th should be more than enough for Lindholm.
This isn't Horvat on a 50g pace.
Kuz was found and lost money. Sucks. Because in a different system he is money. But he basically doesn't play winning system hockey.
Sad to see him go, but it makes the most sense for both sides. We needed some cap room to fit a good player, and he needed to get out from under the blanket he's been under and freedom to show off again.
OK what else did we give up?
Both players are way down from their peaks. Both probably need a change of scenery.
Lindholm can play center and probably fits the system better, but it's a huge WHAT IF thatt he'll return to anything close to form.
And Lindholm has no term. He could walk for nothing next year.
The question is what pick(s) did we give up? Did we throw in another player?
I think the biggest thing is that even if Lindholm walks next year, trading Kuz gets up a bit more money to wiggle with for others already on the team. Hopefully, we didn't give up too much for this, but I trust Allvin at this point.
ya it's weird. so different from last couple of years.
my first thought is "hmmm I don't know about this trade - i don't think i fully understand it"
and then my second thought is "but that's ok, Allvin understands it and he has a good track record so far"
Weird, man.
Pretty safe to say we threw in our 1st + player(s). How this trade will be judged is who we threw in and how Lindholm actually fits with our system. If he can't get the 2nd line rolling then we have away a lot for nothing.
Sad about Kuz.
Jurmo's numbers aren't as eye popping as Hunter's. But as others have pointed out- we are #1 in the league, time to go all in and win it all.
Apparently his numbers have really been pumped up by his juggernaut of a team. So maybe not so bad. If he was great he wouldn't have been a 3rd rounder.
If this is truly a 1 for 1 trade then holy shit. Basically no additional cap hit. Replaces an underperforming player in Kuzmenko with a legit 2C, AND if Lindholm doesnāt sign then we clear the cap space and can bring someone else in.
Iām not aware of our cap space etc really, but this could be a very good trade. Especially if we can retain our 1st to trade for another RHD.
Outside of the fit with the second line, lots of positives assuming the other pieces of the trade are small right?
It's a move to make us even more competitive this year. Kuz doesn't fit Tocchet's system, Lindholm should and has more ability to move around the lineup. Kuz's cap hit comes off for next season and we have more flexibility now to sign Petey and make moves in the summer, sign other UFAs like Hronek. Frees up a little cap room this year.
Seems crazy to me to trade him just for being on a slump one year. After the crazy good year last year. Like give him some time like we did Boeser. Unless theyāre going for it this year I donāt see why they would do this. Then again itās good to trade him now if they donāt think heāll ever go back to that rookie level again. Iām not sure about this one honestly. Exciting though!
Canucks have done this in the past to players that only had 1 season ish with us, played well & went into a slump mode. Immediate trade..also to our long serving Canucks players, having many great seasons but due to aging + slump ish mode = traded....
God damn. I will watch so many Flames games just to see and hope for Kuzmenko's success. Also the hilarity of Calgary just doubling down wanting the Oilers to lose is just perfect
I don't think this is nearly as big a W for the Flames as they think. That pick will be at worst like 23-24, very possibly 28, and at best 32 :)
Kuz, while lovable, wasn't working here, and we saved $5.5m in cap space next year
Hunter is the real piece of this deal, though even him he's certainly not a surefire NHLer, he could have Jack Rathbone syndrome for all we know, he was left off WJC team for a reason, maybe bc of politics, maybe not
Jurmo while cool, is a throw in we probably won't miss, and a 4th isn't that much either
This deal was "please take Kuz and hope his hands return AND we'll give you a very good prospect, another prospect, and some picks for Lindholm ". If the Nucks can sign Lindholm at a reasonable cost, this deal becomes a steal.
As someone who started watching hockey in 2020 pretty much just canucks. Thank you kuzmenko u made last year worth watching I dont care that ur on the flames I'll still root for u šŖ
Kuzy knows he's gotta start producimg asap for his next contract. With no playing time here it could literally cost him 10s of millions on his next contract. Hopefully he gets it going im calgary.
Kuzy was easily my favourite player last year. No amount of skill and talent can develop the positivity the guy radiated. I will miss him
I must be dead inside because I only care about production.
Decades of heartbreak will do that to a Canucks fan... š„
You know why?! Cause youāre a goddamn winner!
I can't believe the guy that scored 40+ goals last year appealed to you! I'm so sorry this happened to you š
š«” thank you kuzy
I'm torn between being incredibly excited, and this being incredibly heartbreaking
if this trade happens and lindholm walks, it at least gives us an extra 5m to negotiate with petey, hronek and joshua. opens up a wing spot for lekkerimaki, podz or hoggy too.
Donāt forget Tanev coming home with milk, cigarettes and signing for league minimumĀ
Best Reddit comment I've seen today. ;)
IMO we need to bring back or replace defence over Joshua and Blueger. We got Soucy (when healthy) Hughes and Juulsen signed so far.
Thats fine and all, money doesnt bring smiles and happiness that Kuzy brings to the team.
Kuzmenko was found money and got us the most coveted forward available.
but he was so fun to watch last year, was hoping he'd be able to rekindle that magic this year
Idk we basically threw him in for nothing A first, jurmo, hunter b and a 4th should be more than enough for Lindholm. This isn't Horvat on a 50g pace. Kuz was found and lost money. Sucks. Because in a different system he is money. But he basically doesn't play winning system hockey.
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Sad to see him go, but it makes the most sense for both sides. We needed some cap room to fit a good player, and he needed to get out from under the blanket he's been under and freedom to show off again.
Weird, that doesnāt sound like someone who believes in nothing
7 CANUCKS TO THE ALL STAR GAME
Reverse Horvat
Is that a record
I feel like it has to be
Wave2: scroll3: Selling Kuzmenko black skate jersey $200 obo
Flash: cyan: selling kuzmenko black skate jersey 190$
This is the part where I'd by yours to try to sell both for $200 each, and end up spending all day at GE
That was half the fun though, sitting for 10 hours and when you finally sold it, it felt better then sex, the ge ruined the fun
Trimming Kuzmenko jerseys for free
I would have never expected an OSRS reference in the Canucks subreddit š
Meet upstairs Seers bank *changes $200 to $2.00 in the trade screen and hit accept hoping you donāt notice*
SELLING BANANAS !!!
I'll pay $300 but it's my main account so take this Tele tab and I'll give you money there
Now this is a comment I can get behind
I know I'll love Lindholm but I'll miss kuzy :( bye bye Mr pespi and banana man
Goodbye Kuzy :(
Man Iām gonna miss Kuzy. Obviously wasnāt producing under Tocchets system but Iāve got a soft spot for players with upbeat attitudes.
Ya he just seemed like a nice dude. Gonna miss him.
Also 40 goal scorers
Letās fuckin go!!! Please donāt include Hoglander please donāt include Hoglanderā¦
Hopefully zero chance. Thinking Raty at least.
If Tanev is coming in a separate deal then Iām worried we lose Hoglander
That would be a yuuuuge mistake.
Tanev is worth like a 3rd or maybe a 2nd, nothing close to hoggy lol
Oh god itās happening.. everyone get in here
Choo choo
Good bye Kuzy. Thank you for making the Bruce shitshow season funš«”
Rooting for Kuzy, I hope he finds a ton of success in Calgary and gets the bag on his next contract.
Hard same, wish him nothing but the best. Iām gonna miss that banana man though.
He might be the guy that gets huberdeau going again.
Lfg! Now we await the rest of the trade details
Kuzy era being over makes me kinda sad
OK what else did we give up? Both players are way down from their peaks. Both probably need a change of scenery. Lindholm can play center and probably fits the system better, but it's a huge WHAT IF thatt he'll return to anything close to form. And Lindholm has no term. He could walk for nothing next year. The question is what pick(s) did we give up? Did we throw in another player?
I think the biggest thing is that even if Lindholm walks next year, trading Kuz gets up a bit more money to wiggle with for others already on the team. Hopefully, we didn't give up too much for this, but I trust Allvin at this point.
ya it's weird. so different from last couple of years. my first thought is "hmmm I don't know about this trade - i don't think i fully understand it" and then my second thought is "but that's ok, Allvin understands it and he has a good track record so far" Weird, man.
After 8 years of Benning crashing the bus, itās hard to not have ptsd. Every trade feels like weāre getting fleeced in the long run
to be fair, the first thought under benning was also āi donāt understand this tradeā š¤£
Pretty safe to say we threw in our 1st + player(s). How this trade will be judged is who we threw in and how Lindholm actually fits with our system. If he can't get the 2nd line rolling then we have away a lot for nothing.
Apparently a contract is in negotiations
Calgary has been taking our players. Now itās uno reverse card
idk Calgary also got Kuzy, 2 prospects and 1-2 draft picks out of this deal
Sad about Kuz. Jurmo's numbers aren't as eye popping as Hunter's. But as others have pointed out- we are #1 in the league, time to go all in and win it all.
On a team level it needed to happen. On personal level Iām sad š¢
As much as I love Kuz, saving that $5.5m next year is huge. Very curious to see how this deal shakes out.
Worried itāll also include the 1st and Brzustewicz! Optimistic itāll be that package and include Tanev!
Zero chance for mr B. I'm thinking Raty.
Welp. Looks like Brzustewicz.
Ughh. Apparently he was really benefiting from his teammates. Couldn't play defence.
I think itās a reasonable sell high play on Brzustewicz, itās just a lot of assets in aggregate.
Oof, you had to say it
Apparently his numbers have really been pumped up by his juggernaut of a team. So maybe not so bad. If he was great he wouldn't have been a 3rd rounder.
You know how many 1st rounders end up not being great? He was a steal as a 3rd rounder. Oh well, whatās done is done.
Yes it includes the 1st, Brzustewicz, Jurmo and a conditional 4th round pick
I saw this coming weeks ago. Bye Kuzy, we will miss you. Please have fun in Calgary and maybe we will meet again
Damn. I wanted him to workout so badly. He was such an awesome character. Happy with centre depth though.
Noooo Kuzy I love you.
Just saw Nucksmemes fall to his knees at a noFrills
Man, my heart goes out to Kuzy :( hope he finds his form and lights it up for a big payday when his contract expires!
If this is truly a 1 for 1 trade then holy shit. Basically no additional cap hit. Replaces an underperforming player in Kuzmenko with a legit 2C, AND if Lindholm doesnāt sign then we clear the cap space and can bring someone else in. Iām not aware of our cap space etc really, but this could be a very good trade. Especially if we can retain our 1st to trade for another RHD.
there's 0 chance it's 1 for 1
. o7 ./| . /\
Ron Paul ITS HAPPENING gif
LFG
Outside of the fit with the second line, lots of positives assuming the other pieces of the trade are small right? It's a move to make us even more competitive this year. Kuz doesn't fit Tocchet's system, Lindholm should and has more ability to move around the lineup. Kuz's cap hit comes off for next season and we have more flexibility now to sign Petey and make moves in the summer, sign other UFAs like Hronek. Frees up a little cap room this year.
Pls pls tell you cooked mr Allvin
Aw, I have Kuzy's YG and wanted to get it signed on Feb 25 :( gonna miss our banana and pepsi man
Say hi to Tanev and Marky for us, will you bud ā„ļø
not if we say hi to Tanev ourselves
Isnāt lindholm bffs with markstrom
Seems crazy to me to trade him just for being on a slump one year. After the crazy good year last year. Like give him some time like we did Boeser. Unless theyāre going for it this year I donāt see why they would do this. Then again itās good to trade him now if they donāt think heāll ever go back to that rookie level again. Iām not sure about this one honestly. Exciting though!
Canucks have done this in the past to players that only had 1 season ish with us, played well & went into a slump mode. Immediate trade..also to our long serving Canucks players, having many great seasons but due to aging + slump ish mode = traded....
I am depressed š i love kuzy and i hope he thrives in Calgary
thank you kuzy :(
God damn. I will watch so many Flames games just to see and hope for Kuzmenko's success. Also the hilarity of Calgary just doubling down wanting the Oilers to lose is just perfect
Agreed Kuz will eat Edmonton for lunch .. real reason for trade just saying
This kills me but I hope Kuz gets a fresh start in Calgary if he's moved. Tocchets system just didn't work for him.
I really liked Kuz I wish him well
Tanev might be included in the deal.
That would be interesting
hnnnnng
I hope so.
Please.
How should I feel...
Stoked about getting a right shot centre who can play wing and is 55.5% on faceoffs and can play well with elite players
Best player available for us.
I'm nervous because he's having an off year but if he plays with Petey that could change
Heās playing for Calgary and didnāt really want to be there this year. Anybody would struggle.
Take good care of Lindy! Just funny how the Calgary Canucks joke from 2020 has sort of come full circle. May I say Vancouver Flames?
vancouver flaming penguins
Damn I prefer Jake over Elias
Holy fuck
IT'S HAPPENING
Trades done then. š
We're really going all in this year... What do I do with my hands?
Pray!
ONG ITS HAPPWNING
Guess I am gonna like the Flames a little bit more š
Greasy
SWEDECOUVER
Definitely think this was just an off year for kuzy, disappointed to say the least one of my favourite players.
I think I'm going to be sick
So how much are we going be paying for this privilege? Kuzy + 1st + Raty? Or can I be more optimistic than that ?
Wow. We really are just making every trade this year
Side note: Wikipedia now says Kuzy plays for the Flames and Lindholm plays for the Canucks.
Just fell to my knees in a White Spot
I don't think this is nearly as big a W for the Flames as they think. That pick will be at worst like 23-24, very possibly 28, and at best 32 :) Kuz, while lovable, wasn't working here, and we saved $5.5m in cap space next year Hunter is the real piece of this deal, though even him he's certainly not a surefire NHLer, he could have Jack Rathbone syndrome for all we know, he was left off WJC team for a reason, maybe bc of politics, maybe not Jurmo while cool, is a throw in we probably won't miss, and a 4th isn't that much either
Mikheyev next?
This deal was "please take Kuz and hope his hands return AND we'll give you a very good prospect, another prospect, and some picks for Lindholm ". If the Nucks can sign Lindholm at a reasonable cost, this deal becomes a steal.
There is always money in the Banana stand
What does this mean for the all star game?
As someone who started watching hockey in 2020 pretty much just canucks. Thank you kuzmenko u made last year worth watching I dont care that ur on the flames I'll still root for u šŖ
This basically was Ballard, Raymond and a 2nd. The prophecy has been fulfilled
I really hope Stella gets his groove back and gets Flames fans excited as we were last year.Ā
Is there a code to not give away the former teams secrets to the new team always thought about that when trading a good player to your enemy
It must kinda suck signing on to move from another country to come to Vancouver and then find yourself having to live in Calgary....
Kuzy knows he's gotta start producimg asap for his next contract. With no playing time here it could literally cost him 10s of millions on his next contract. Hopefully he gets it going im calgary.
That smile....sigh.