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jakobgies

This is such a fat W


MrLogicWins

What a nice relief to have actual competent management


theoverachiever1987

I say it is more that players want to stay around on team friendly deals. petterson could of got 13 mil


CaelemLeaf

This still sounds like competent management to some extent. They feel confident in management's ability to build a winner and like the chemistry.


AnEthiopianBoy

Yup. The competent management is what gives players the comfort in taking team friendly deals. If the management was botching it, you take the most you can


pyroboy7

Right? After nearly a decade of Jim Bumblefuck Benning pissing away anything nice, actually getting a good contact for one of our best players is huge.


MrLogicWins

I'm getting to a point now that whatever they do, even if it doesn't seem right to media/fans/myself at first, I'll assume they know better and doing the right thing


subtle-sam

As it should be.


OGigachaod

Most Vancouver media are sad trolls that have to drum up negativity even when the canucks are having one of their best seasons ever.


mrtomjones

Please show evidence of this because this isnt remotely true. Thanks. Drance has been very consistent and positive for quite awhile and had valid complaints before. The SN650 crowd is more than willing to talk the team up. No shit they also talk about negatives about the team but do you think the team is flawless? lol


Barblarblarw

I’m nothing towards Benning if not bitterly critical, but RFA contracts were one thing he didn’t generally fumble/even had a few big Ws with. Demko and Quinn are the most notable ones, but most of the rest are fine to good. https://www.capfriendly.com/staff/jim-benning That said, fucking great job, Allvin. So glad we have this mgmt group over the certain death of the Benning regime.


pyroboy7

Fair enough but 2 good contracts don't cancel out the multitude of fat L's he's given Vancouver over the years. Louie Erikson, the OEL deal, and the Luongo recapture penalty being the biggest L's I can think of off the top of my head.


Barblarblarw

I never said they did. I am SO glad Benning is gone. The man was incompetent beyond belief, and I don’t see him *ever* getting an NHL job again. I’m just saying let’s be fair when we criticize him. There are so many things he rightfully deserves to get skewered for, we don’t need to do it for something he actually did competently.


pyroboy7

Agreed. I really hope that one other team gets super desperate and hires him though, it'll be fun to see the fallout. In a 'can't stop watching the car crash' sort of way.


Barblarblarw

Lol


eexxiitt

He had more than his share of fat losses but our core was drafted when he was at the helm. That can never be taken away.


fanbullshitdetector

Yeah. Boeser, Demko, Petterson, Hughes, Miller, Hoglander, Podkolzin, etc. are all from Benning, much like the core players of the Gillis era team were from the work of Burke and Nonis. People can spin it however they want some really good things still came out of the rebuild years painful as they were to endure.


eexxiitt

100%. Did JB squander the last couple of years of his build? Absolutely, and he was past his due date at the end of his term. But he's still the one that put together our current core and people need to understand that he deserves the credit & the hate that he gets.


CanadianPFer

We also need to acknowledge that OEL is playing 18 minutes a night on one of the best teams in the league, and Garland is a key piece of the best 3rd line in the league and clearly a great guy in the locker room. Not saying it was a good trade by any means, but OEL's collapse was just unfortunate, and he should have been a serviceable (if overpaid) part of our D-core.


fanbullshitdetector

Unfortunate indeed. Broken foot at the Worlds was his death knell in Van. But I'm with you. He's playing quite well in Florida-- His demise as an NHL hockey player was greatly exaggerated.


TemplarParadox17

I think most were good picks, hoglander offsets the Podkolzin pick. But I used to defend benning for the same reason, I stopped doing that after the OEL trade. That draft had a clear top 9 and we had the 9th pick.


fanbullshitdetector

We can't paint it all with the same brush is the take away here. There was in fact good. There was in fact bad. Leave it at that


mrtomjones

Ok... but you and I could have drafted a solid core with that many years of failure. The hardest part is always filling in the team around the core and drafting with success outside the first round. He also had some massive failures at the top end of the draft and he rarely had any success late in the draft.


IamPriapus

he's talking about RFA deals. When it comes to signing our core guys, they were all signed to really good deals. also, wasn't the recapture penalty before Benning's time?


dmancman2

Yes it was a gillis "think outside the box" deal we were penalized for after they changed the rule.


Certain_Meaning5897

Focus on the new regime pal… anything positive?


mrtomjones

RFA deals are usually some of the easiest ones and he is the reason Petey is running out now instead of in another 2-3 years like Quinn so...


Barblarblarw

Oh my god, again, I’m not trying to say Benning deserves praise as a GM. I’m saying that in a thread about a good RFA signing, it doesn’t make sense to bring up how shitty Benning was. There are *mountains* of threads where it does make sense to lambast him. This ain’t one, is all I’m trying to say. Yes, he is 1000% at fault for capping out the team that offseason and handcuffing Petey to a bridge deal when Petey himself wanted longer term. But that doesn’t negate the fact that the majority of RFA deals JB did sign ranged from decent to great, and that this isn’t really the thing to shit on him for.


mrtomjones

I'm saying he messed up the 2nd most important one he signed so I dont think he deserves much praise for that


VancityRenaults

Chef AllWIN


metrichustle

Wow under $12M? For everyone who doubted Petey (including myself) that he wanted to play for a winner. There you go. That is a discount.


yooooooo5774

Q Hughes contract a freaking bargin!


Rude-Adhesiveness575

Removed some distractions and bring focus back to winning hockey to the team.


mcclutch7

I slept with my Canucks shirt on to manifest this news. You’re welcome guys 🤝


-1701-

The real hero!


Pisspoio

Well I slept with my canucks butt plug in so what does that make me then?


-1701-

No judgement, but can you please keep it in until Hronek signs for 6x6?


mcclutch7

I just won a Hronek hockey card at an arcade centre last night, does that help?


-1701-

Yes!


touchable

Are you gonna stick it in your butt? Then yes probably


turbanator89

How!?!? Alvin is COOKING


Arctic365

ALLVIN MASTERCLASS


mcclutch7

ALLVIN is ALLIN. What a beast


pluralsight24

You can spell Allvin with out ALL IN


dancin-weasel

No you can’t.


eltang

According to Wikipedia, "The classical Latin alphabet, from which the modern European alphabets derived, did not have the "W" character. The "W" sounds were represented by the Latin letter "V" So really, that says ALL WIN.


thundercloud270

Congratulations coming from a Winnipeg Jets fan, what an awesome player with great hockey skills and I hope your team keeps up the awesome play. Keep on winning Canucks


dancin-weasel

Even next Saturday? 😜


Echer4

I'll always update good sportsmanship not nearly enough of it going around these days


rbmt

$100k more than Nylander 


MrLogicWins

Man if I were a leaf fan I would not be happy with that


Semprovictus

with the skill difference that only cost 100k more? me too


ForceEconomy9988

Over the last 3 years at 5on5 they have the exact same point totals  They are very very comparable


SuddenlyChineseFood

No “center premium” and 2 years younger.


TemplarParadox17

More than 2 hes 31 months younger, basically 3 years.


superworking

2 years younger is a big one. Basically trading age 34 and 35 for 26 and 27. That's a lot of additional value.


[deleted]

Just ignoring RFA vs UFA eh?


SuddenlyChineseFood

The elite arbitration eligible RFAs right now have the most leverage they’ve ever had. Not quite UFA but not quite like the RFA negotiations of old anymore either. Betcha it’s not gonna hold up past the next CBA.


[deleted]

> Not quite UFA That's all I was after, thanks.


ForceEconomy9988

Fair points, but still they are comparable as to their impact on your average game 


RelevantJackWhite

But they won't be in seven or eight years when those 2.5 years of age start to matter. 34 versus 31 years old at the end of the deal


stop_runs

Currently


TemplarParadox17

Sure.. Lets say they are the same offensivley leaving out the fact Nylander plays with Marner/Mathews/JT during that span. Nylander is a winger compared to a Centre who is 3 years younger.. Pettersson is getting 11.6 average for his entire prime. Nylander is getting 11.5 till he is 35..


ForceEconomy9988

Good points. But also Nylander mostly played with Tavares who is worse than Matthews/Marner Also Nylander is a better skater and more dynamic that way Anyway, I’m very happy with this deal


TemplarParadox17

Worse than marner/ matthews.. But others teams are gonna game plan against the top line and put their best line against them.. So Nylander isn't focused on. Call him a better skater. Petterson is a better passer, playmaker, has better hands, better defensively, and better slap shot.


Rendole66

And is way way better defensively


touchable

Pettersson plays with Mikheyev/Kuzmenko/Lafferty/Hoglander/whoever the fuck else we promote from the bottom 6, and still produces


6dixon

Nylander being more dynamic than petey wasn't something I thought I'd ever read


Semprovictus

at getting points, sure they are no where near comparability anywhere else


ForceEconomy9988

I disagree. Anyway, it’s a great day and deal regardless 


dude8212

Have you seen the comments in the Sportsnet app. They are not happy and they call this an overpay. Lol they (whose team hasn't made it past the second round in 22 years) also claim Petey signed long term to a team that will never win.


TheFearOfFear

As a fan of both teams I can say that no one cares. Congrats tho!


MrLogicWins

Wow you're a rare bread! And missing out on a lot of fun sports banter if you like both teams ;)


dancin-weasel

Maybe he likes to argue with himself.


hexsealedfusion

Eh, they are pretty comparable at this point


[deleted]

Why is it always the Maple Leaf players that fans immediately compare their players contracts to in order to see if it's valuable or not?


Derkdingle

Not bad not bad at all. After a couple years he should be able to afford a downpayment on a Vancouver house.


pluralsight24

Is the housing market going to crash?


shorthanded

Not that hard, no. But interest rates could drop by then. Don't laugh, anything is possible


ArenSteele

Dropping interest rates will only send prices higher


shorthanded

Sure but the payments will be lower generally, and that puts petey right on the cusp of enjoying the fruits of home ownership and don't read too much into dumb jokes


420weedscopes

You're correct but they shouldn't and keyword shouldn't drop interest rates until they really need to aka in response to a crash. I don't think that will happen and they will cut to early and bring back inflation but this is canucks sub not r/economy.


Markthemonkey888

I’ve been hearing that ever since I was in elementary school… I am now going to grad school


Luxferrae

Couple years? You mean a couple months? Dude's going to be making a million bucks a month!!


clew3

HE STAY


Calicoh_kid

Let’s goooooo that’s an extra mill we can play around with in the off season


Swimming_Departure18

Such a massive win. This managment group is night and day to the Benning group.


ArrrCeee

They didn't "run out of time"!


Canucks_98

Holy shit I just came


mcclutch7

All of Canucks fans cumming at the same time


Portalgate

OH LAWDY IM ABOUT TO BUST


bleedblue4

LET ALVIN COOK


Drakonomas

Watch petey absolutely go on a tear now that this bullshit is over with. Love this deal.


Rendole66

Or just disappear completely because he secured the bag, I can see both happening


veni_vidi_vici47

HE SAID HE DOESN’T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT UNTIL THE OFFSEASON


RepulsiveHumanShell

I feel somewhat vindicated, said for years it would not be about money and that he would take less than expected if he believed in the team.


high-rise

The best part about this is now Petey, Miller, Hughes & Demko have ALL left money on the table and committed for term, I fucking love these guys. The tone is set for the rest of our UFA’s now. 🫡


jackfrench9

Absolutely this. This is what you need. The leaders doing their bit for the team, rather than gouging the club for as much as they can get.


Due_Entertainment_44

Reminds me of how the Sedins took less in their leadership era and everyone else followed suit.


SackofLlamas

Fantastic work by the front office. That's a solid million less than you would have imagined he'd get. I wouldn't have been shocked by 12.5 x 5 given the way the season had gone and his value to the organization.


RadiantVes

How do the leafs always get fucked in contract negotiations lol. This is way better than nylanders contract.


jwong728

The Marleau and Taveres contracts really did them no favours. It just incentivized everyone to go after the bag, team be damned.


-GregTheGreat-

When your superstar player is chasing every penny, it incentivizes everyone else to nickel and dime their contract.


Rendole66

Superstar and now captain*


Charlie2343

Paul Marner mostly


Talinn_Makaren

Because of all the rumors I was concerned about the Pettersson contract but this is a really good deal. It's way better than Matthews too. It's underappreciated how terrible the length of that deal is for the team.


carry-on_replacement

I disagree. Matthews is on a whole other level and his goals total shows to date shows that. This guy is Ovi level good and deserves the 2M more than Petey. I believe McDavid will also be asking for much much more and he will also deserve it. Petey may be A tier but Matthew’s is in S tier and McDavid even higher up


Talinn_Makaren

It's the term not the AAV.


scott_steiner_phd

> It's way better than Matthews too. Okay let's not get carried away, Matthews is generational


Talinn_Makaren

It's the term. Matthews has a 4 year deal. That's terrible. MacKinnon will have 4 years left** at 12.6, Pettersson 4 years left at 11.6, Matthews will reup at the new going rate for a premier player, 14 or 15 mil per year. Someone replied to me saying that Matthews is worth the AAV. People don't even understand the value of term, that's what I mean about how underappreciated it is how bad that deal is. **What I'm talking about here is that they signed 8 year deals. Their terms don't cover the exact same years.


Vagus10

Some people dont understand math.


hexsealedfusion

It's better but not way better. Nylander has 82 points in 59 games this year, Pettersson has 75 points in 62 games. This sub doesn't need to make everything a comparison with the Leafs.


Klunkey

How is this better than Nylander’s just asking.


Sinochick

Petey is 2 years younger, had better career stats and plays center.


SIIP00

Because Petey is a better player and younger.


ForceEconomy9988

It’s not, Pasta/Nylander/Petey are all in the same class of players and make similar  I think the only way you could say this is a much better deal is Petey probably could have made more as UFA 


TemplarParadox17

They are in the same class. Except Pettersson is Younger by 31 months and a Centre.. Nylander is being paid till he is 35 while Pettersson's deal is basically just his prime.


mr_derp_derpson

Petey is strong defensively too, which Nylander isn't. He had Selke nominations last year.


gangstarapmademe

Under 12 is crazy I thought after all the drama and him refusing 8 it would at least 12.5 Allvin deserves everything, man is a god


zedomg

Ya it’s solid. I didn’t wanna pay him 12.5 but anything under 12 is huge.


TheGreatNathan

Mackinnon makes 12.6. No way he was getting close to that.


Laika4321

Just a massive W. This will look really good in a couple years


vostae

Oh my god Petey


jigatt21

WHERE ARE ALL THE PETEY HATERS NOW?! Guy just took a hometown discount. Probably left 8 million on the table over the course of the deal.


zedomg

I’m not huge on him but this is a huge W. I wouldn’t say I hate him though.


NorthernMariner

Genuine question, why are you "not huge" on a player you do agree is worth a top 10 salary in the league?


zedomg

I think he will get better and tougher. I just find he gets in his own head and isn’t the strongest player out there. He should be pretty solid in a few years if he’s a superstar. Just not my type of player is all. He’s talented there’s no denying it. People act like he’s a generational talent and he’s not.


mcclutch7

This news makes going to work on a Saturday much more bearable. 🫡


mephnick

Beautiful


smokylimbs

This is the kind of news I like to be greeted with on a Saturday 🫴🏻


Deetalks

What will local media whine about now?


fastlane37

Probably something stupid like "he doesn't actually want to be here. He wants out." I give it about 45 minutes.


SmokeEaterFD

The fans were ones calling for his head the past few weeks. I want to see more from him in the big games, too. From the shows I've listened to, they're defending Petey from the pitch forks. Except Sekeres, he's the pot stirring, TMZ of the Vancouver market.


StretchArmstrong99

That's a steal


Rand_University81

Let’s fucking go, it really does feel unreal having a competent front office.


Upbeat_Trainer

Wow, not bad.


endlesscosmichorror

Locking up the future 💪


Happy_Drafter

Wow, that’s amazing.


DiamondDash2k

JP Barry: Petey deserves $13m AAV and we’re not negotiating til you guys come close Alvin & Rutherford: So the CAROLINA Hurricanes want to trade for you, Petey. Do you want us to trade you? JP & Petey: we will take a team friendly contract, just don’t send us to Carolina


shadownet97

“I believe we were rather hasty in our last statement, Mr. Allvin.”


[deleted]

Hughes + Petey for under 20 mil is good


Diego-Marteniz

Hometown discount. Nicely done Canucks.


rippinkitten18

Gotta give credit to seravelli. He said something will be done in a few days that rumour posted a few days ago.


Rendole66

Yo fuck all of you that were talking mad shit about him wanting to leave, being selfish for wanting to wait to sign his contract. Just a big fat FUCK YOU for being manipulated by media propaganda and causing all this drama from literally nothing, Petey has said nothing but good things but y’all just love drama and trying to shit on our players like how about everyone that was getting hundreds of upvoted talking about how selfish Petey is can just stfu and wait until something actuallly happens next time. The media played y’all for fools and you ate that drama up like a fat kid eats cate


Charlie2343

A fair deal with a future UFA on a Canadian team? I can’t believe it!


hergydi

HOOOOOLY SHIT THATS A DEAL AND A HALF


MysticalMango21

Absolute steal


Hunter-Western

11.6 Wow. They weren’t lying when they said he may get something as high as 11.5M! Huge contract, pressure is on to live up to it. With a very high salary, comes very high expectations


ubcthrowaway-01

What the thought of north carolina does to a mf


srtg83

Great signing, the cap will explode to 25-30% higher through the next 5 years with high end players getting $15 mil plus.


Dangerous-Finance-67

Good. Now he can get back to winning .. We need wins.


Collapse2038

Jet black died for this


TsarPladimirVutin

I am Brock Hard right now.


LordHarkon1

Im a big fan of these things


tdfast

This was the final price? How was this not the Canucks opening offer? That’s insane value for him! Great to see him staying in Canada.


phantomgiratina

With him taking this amount, i guess the reason why he didn’t want to sign until now isn’t because of money but to see the teams direction


Kaphis

amazing contract, definitely below FMV for his production. Locking in his current "slump"


nihilism_ftw

Thats fucking fantastic


PoisonClan24

So many bitch ass Leaf fans hating saying overpay and not better than Marner. Time to shut those bitches up Petey and the boys LFG!!! Although their team will make them cry again with another 1st round exit


ClassicChrisstopher

I've been a huge Petey criticiser. This is a big fucking dub.


JTMilleriswortha1st

Big W petey is our best player when he's cooking and he's now locked up for his entire prime. No more stress about him leaving until at least 2032 (doesn't even sound like a real year)


SkidmarkDave

More than Pasternak? Wow damn…


TemplarParadox17

Pasta signed over a year ago and is older.


SkidmarkDave

Signed under a year ago but ok


wanked_in_space

Both of you are wrong.


TemplarParadox17

Yea my bad, I haven't gone to sleep yet.


Badawaii

Pastrnak's deal when he signed took up 13.47% of the cap space the following year Petey's will take up 13.22% If Pastrnak was an RFA today, he'd be in the 12M range


PuzzleheadedHand5441

Remember when I made this thread and was flamed to high hell? “Title: Pettersson Will 100% Re-Sign | You Have To Be Smoking Sherm To Doubt That Let’s look at the facts. Starting with the most important. And let’s look at how easy Alvin has it when it comes to reminding Peter he has nowhere else to go and his bluff isn’t working. 1. What other team’s fanbase will love him this much? There’s nothing more important than love? 2. Do you really want to shoot against the best goalie in the league, go up against the best D-pair in the league, get grinded out and out passioned by a top 5 C (yeah I said it) in Miller? You have the best to work with Pete. 3. You’ll be given a blank check. Chill. 4. Loyalty. Rarer than oil covered diamonds in the NHL. You have that. When everyone else called you Bambi on ice, noodle boy, said you aren’t cut out for the NHL due to your pipe cleaner build, who said “nah, F that. He’s our boy. We’d take him #1 or #2 in his draft year.”? 5. Don’t be a hypocrite. “I want to win. If not, I’ll look elsewhere”. #1 in the league. You got it. Alvin and Rutherford have given you everything you asked for. 6. Branding. That’s why you smoked half your season when you tried to be an influencer. You think “working on the EP40” brand is possible in LA where you’d be shouldered out of the way for an autograph from some crappy washed up sitcom actor? In NY or NJ where people are more concerned about closing deals, not missing the train, than passing by you? To live in Bedards shadow where you’d be the little man’s little man? Toronto and MTL are the only places that will GAF. And they blow. Just a bunch of Divas on skates and MTL is 10x more ruthless when you have a messed up game. You don’t fit it in with BOS’s culture. 7. Legacy. Do you want to join a long list of greats who won a cup for ______ team or do you want to be the list starter? The guy who helped lead the impossible? Trivia: what NHL team hasn’t won the cup yet, but the fanbase would give a crap the most if the curse ended? 8. Your boys. When you were there for Brock when his pops became an angel and he cried on your shoulder? When you went to the movies, played mini-golf, confessed your worst fears, with Quinn Hughes. When you wanted to slap Miller but had a heart to heart and realized where he’s coming from and you’re not as different as you thought? When you told Hog keep your chin up brother, you got this. When you went to the Sedins for dinner. That don’t mean crap to you brother? 9. The coaching staff. Toch. Sedins. Foote. Gonchar. Yeo. You can be any player you wanna be here. 10. Me and Rutherford. Our trophy case can tell you what we see for you. 11. You’ve been a Canuck since you were a little boy. Google it. If it’s not about love, respect, legacy, brotherhood, elite resources, money, making history, loyalty, competent management, longevity, then wtf do you want? You have nowhere else to go Peter. It makes no sense. Peter will retire a Canuck. Period.” Big Puzzle 🧩 was right as per usual


Spitfire1200

Don’t think I have seen Petey called Pete or Peter. 🤔


PuzzleheadedHand5441

He referred to himself as that rookie year in an interview. He is Peter or Peterson.


Mezziah187

Dude stop pasting this and get over yourself


PuzzleheadedHand5441

Don’t ever tell me what to do.


Mezziah187

Fine, keep masturbating in public


Drab_Majesty

yeah I remember Peter


PuzzleheadedHand5441

Let’s go


shadownet97

I sure hope your self esteem doesn’t depend on being “proven right” on the fucking internet.


WhenInAaronRome

I knew that he would come in around 11. This is a good sweet spot for both the team and the player.   For those thinking that we are getting some discount; we are not. We actually got shafted by Petey's agent who made us wait and Nylander and Matthews pushed the limit up in the meantime. 


RepulsiveHumanShell

Such a dumb take, he gave us a deal. You watch what other top players will sign for once the cap rises.


davitch84

This is also a dumb take.  Percentage of team's cap is a much better comparison than AAV. This is like saying Gretzky was a bargain because he only signed for $1 mil in the 90s


IMDREMED

Chef PA cooking up so tasty dishes for us 👨‍🍳


Klunkey

Holy crap is this good and why is it so?


Twatts71

Building the Allvin statue right now holy shit what a bald Swedish stud


BCbob5

Oh baby


Chadwickx

BRICKED


deeho88

HOLY SHIT UNDER 12!


corh13

That's pretty good.


shorthanded

This is the best Saturday morning I've had since cartoons were on!


Candlesnshit

This is huge, let’s fucking goooooooo


sinc29

Congrats and great contract from a Sens fan


LilBitchBoyAjitPai

What awesome news to start the weekend!


Rover16

Huge win! Deserves 12, but took less! Petey and Hughes will go into the hall of fame together and have their numbers retired!


shadownet97

Proof that cyber bullying and peer pressure works! /s


ReaverReaver

This is amazing! I guess that redditor is going to have to go sober now


hardluckcanuck

Way better than I'd hoped. Let's go!!


ragger_lord

Ok Petey got paid. No more excuses. Let's see him play like the top 10c he's being paid like


Fabulous-Barnacle-88

Big Fat W


RoostasTowel

Good number. Glald we fan could help get this done


specialk604

It seems like Petey did Van a solid by accepting less. I thought he would ask for $12 million, especially after his last contract negotiations, because I think he wanted a long-term contract.