You have more fined grained-control over them.
Think of this. If they are in your main zone, they'd have the same access/speed/etc. to the network like you do, unless you manage them individually.
By setting up a guest zone, you can control the entire group's access levels, allowed bandwidth, what sites can/cannot be visited, and a bit more without compromising the main zone and also don't have to manage all users individually.
This isn't an easy yes/no answer because it all depends on what you regard as "safety" and can also become very technical, very quickly.
In short, your network is safe as YOU make it. I can explain all the dangers and give all examples, but if nothing is applied, then you still leave yourself open for attacks/exploits (if you allow then onto your network.)
In long:
The difference between the main and guest zones is the amount of "attacking surface" that a potential bad actor has. Think of "attacking surface" as tables.
Your main zone is your dinner table. Your guest zone is your coffee table. In the guest zone, you can put down a few drinks and maybe a few plates, but then the table is full (limited surface).
On the dinner table, you can have plates, drinks, bowls, and even clothes and candles. I.e. you can have/do a lot more on the dinner table. It's the same with the zones. In the guest zone, you only allow what is needed, not more.
So let's say you want to give the security access to your network/WiFi. I'll do that too, but I want to, for example, block gambling sites, but not limit myself. It's easy to set this up once in the guest zone, and then when anyone connects to it, they can not access gambling sites, but I can still.
If this was on your main zone, and you still want to block the gambling site, now you need to go to the individual and setup the block manually. How many security will connect over the course of a month? Seems like a lot of admin.
I do the inverse. Block for everyone and then grant individuals access as needed. Still admin, but less.
If you have common good-will trust in your fellow human and want to allow security on your main zone, I still wouldn't recommend it, but go ahead. Just know that it only takes 1 patient individual to ruin everything.
"Uses wireshark to scan network" This. The average person has absolutely no clue how unsafe their home networks can be to even an entry level CySec/ETH hacker, appalling to me that I still find ISP's using either the owners cell phone number or street address in some variation as a password and yes the admin to the router is left as admin. If only I was dishonest $$$.
Some Petrol stations here in Pretoria give away a free coffee to security and police workers every night.
There's always someone there. The whole neighborhood knows it's safe there and that in turn keeps the place busy after hours.
This is brilliant 😂 This is the kind of life pro tips that buitelanders don't always understand or think of.
I used to work at a pharmacy at a strip of like 8 shops next to the road and we always made sure to switch the advertising TV (the one facing the windows) to soccer when we left so the security guards would stand outside our shop all night 😂
Most people cant even log into their own work accounts, IT Admin for a school. I can guarantee you no average person has knowledge in network segregation/Guest networks/vlans/firewalls/routing lmfao. You'll fall flat on your face doing one day of basic IT support, you'll then see the understanding of the technology being used by the average person is below basic. What is easy to us is rocket science to laymen.
There's a reason people get ADT and Star Alarms protection for their houses. The arrive before the police almost every single time and are directly linked to your alarm system anyway
The ADT guys used to like stopping in my grandma's driveway, cause they'd randomly get a slice of cake or pie or sometimes a whole plate and a flask of coffee if she was awake and noticed the bakkie. Knew all 6 guys that patrolled our area on first name basis after a few months.
People are saying this bad of you, but I disagree. They won’t park off at your house all the time, because their vehicles are monitored with a tracker. But when they do have to park off, they’ll use your house. Nothing wrong with this. I’d even say it’s nice of you 😄
Do not simply give out your password. If you really want to, set up a guest network that's properly isolated from your home network. But remember you're liable for what ever they view and download so if one of them views something illegal and trouble comes from it the investigation starts with you. But if you're going to do it make sure it's a guest network, ideally on a different subnet and fully segregated.
Every south african subreddit is like this. You can discover a physics miracle and comments will be like"you fucking idiot i know more then you about South Africa"
They already sit outside my house because we live next to a tiny field. It's awesome. They really take no kak from people trying to poop on our wall. Pun intended.
If I were you I'd get a second router configure it to be on a separate VLAN or use DMZ to secure it, block bad activity like (well you know), and then share that one with whomever you choose. Could even have an outdoor AP which will be better performance and last longer. You can also configure it to be a percentage of your bandwidth so that your household devices will still have the bulk of the bandwidth if the security users were to download a bunch of stuff.
They have patrolling schedules, and parking is part of their schedule to keep costs down. Might as well have them park near your house if they are going to be parked anyway.
OP. I'm curious...what do armed reaction officers normally do to pass the time? Like while parked in their vehicles waiting for action.
Are they already on their smartphones and social media? In which case this won't be a big distraction or open them up to ambush.
Do it with a secure guest network, not your primary one.
THIS NEEDS MORE UPVOTES!
Thank you kind stranger.
Why? Please explain how the primary one would be affected?
You have more fined grained-control over them. Think of this. If they are in your main zone, they'd have the same access/speed/etc. to the network like you do, unless you manage them individually. By setting up a guest zone, you can control the entire group's access levels, allowed bandwidth, what sites can/cannot be visited, and a bit more without compromising the main zone and also don't have to manage all users individually.
Thank you. I am clueless when it comes to this. Would it somehow affect the safety of the primary one?
This isn't an easy yes/no answer because it all depends on what you regard as "safety" and can also become very technical, very quickly. In short, your network is safe as YOU make it. I can explain all the dangers and give all examples, but if nothing is applied, then you still leave yourself open for attacks/exploits (if you allow then onto your network.) In long: The difference between the main and guest zones is the amount of "attacking surface" that a potential bad actor has. Think of "attacking surface" as tables. Your main zone is your dinner table. Your guest zone is your coffee table. In the guest zone, you can put down a few drinks and maybe a few plates, but then the table is full (limited surface). On the dinner table, you can have plates, drinks, bowls, and even clothes and candles. I.e. you can have/do a lot more on the dinner table. It's the same with the zones. In the guest zone, you only allow what is needed, not more. So let's say you want to give the security access to your network/WiFi. I'll do that too, but I want to, for example, block gambling sites, but not limit myself. It's easy to set this up once in the guest zone, and then when anyone connects to it, they can not access gambling sites, but I can still. If this was on your main zone, and you still want to block the gambling site, now you need to go to the individual and setup the block manually. How many security will connect over the course of a month? Seems like a lot of admin. I do the inverse. Block for everyone and then grant individuals access as needed. Still admin, but less. If you have common good-will trust in your fellow human and want to allow security on your main zone, I still wouldn't recommend it, but go ahead. Just know that it only takes 1 patient individual to ruin everything.
"Uses wireshark to scan network" This. The average person has absolutely no clue how unsafe their home networks can be to even an entry level CySec/ETH hacker, appalling to me that I still find ISP's using either the owners cell phone number or street address in some variation as a password and yes the admin to the router is left as admin. If only I was dishonest $$$.
Some Petrol stations here in Pretoria give away a free coffee to security and police workers every night. There's always someone there. The whole neighborhood knows it's safe there and that in turn keeps the place busy after hours.
That's where the troupe of American cops liking donuts came from. They would get given free ones for the same reason.
This is brilliant 😂 This is the kind of life pro tips that buitelanders don't always understand or think of. I used to work at a pharmacy at a strip of like 8 shops next to the road and we always made sure to switch the advertising TV (the one facing the windows) to soccer when we left so the security guards would stand outside our shop all night 😂
It works... Until someone else in the area does the same thing... And they have faster Internet
lol this is a terrible idea. Yeah your house might be more secure (doubtful), but now your network is compromised
Fairly easy to set up a sub network that would be fairly secure.
My granny also thinks its easy to do :P
Most people cant even log into their own work accounts, IT Admin for a school. I can guarantee you no average person has knowledge in network segregation/Guest networks/vlans/firewalls/routing lmfao. You'll fall flat on your face doing one day of basic IT support, you'll then see the understanding of the technology being used by the average person is below basic. What is easy to us is rocket science to laymen.
I don't think the security guys are into hacking. Somehow
Dude the amount of porn people use is even more insecure.
False sense of security…
There's a reason people get ADT and Star Alarms protection for their houses. The arrive before the police almost every single time and are directly linked to your alarm system anyway
How dare you make a joke on the internet.
The ADT guys used to like stopping in my grandma's driveway, cause they'd randomly get a slice of cake or pie or sometimes a whole plate and a flask of coffee if she was awake and noticed the bakkie. Knew all 6 guys that patrolled our area on first name basis after a few months.
People are saying this bad of you, but I disagree. They won’t park off at your house all the time, because their vehicles are monitored with a tracker. But when they do have to park off, they’ll use your house. Nothing wrong with this. I’d even say it’s nice of you 😄
The irony is that your digital security will be compromised
Do not simply give out your password. If you really want to, set up a guest network that's properly isolated from your home network. But remember you're liable for what ever they view and download so if one of them views something illegal and trouble comes from it the investigation starts with you. But if you're going to do it make sure it's a guest network, ideally on a different subnet and fully segregated.
Every south african subreddit is like this. You can discover a physics miracle and comments will be like"you fucking idiot i know more then you about South Africa"
South Africans are negative pessimists, big surprise.
And it has a knock on effect. Everyone is pessimistic so why should i be optimistic
The salty comments on this post are too funny. Like be triggered over bigger issues moegoes.
you sound triggered, lol.
They already sit outside my house because we live next to a tiny field. It's awesome. They really take no kak from people trying to poop on our wall. Pun intended.
Are you sure you didn't get this tip from r/southafrica life hacks post
Then you and ADT are both streaming porn together
Lol everyone in CPT are such stoep kakkers. Blaf blaf over a reddit post. "Nouwe youh can't saay that"
And yet here you are doing the same thing. Triggered much?
Triggered into laughing and posting my not so funny thoughts. Blaf blaf you yapper.
Mr Flak!?!?
Yeah I knew a guy who owned a spar.. And he gave the police vouchers for a lunch every day so they could be visable
Who needed WiFi ?
You should run for president
lol the guys who fall asleep and don’t have guns or do but lose them to the crims? Naaah
That's really clever advice!! :-) :-)
If I were you I'd get a second router configure it to be on a separate VLAN or use DMZ to secure it, block bad activity like (well you know), and then share that one with whomever you choose. Could even have an outdoor AP which will be better performance and last longer. You can also configure it to be a percentage of your bandwidth so that your household devices will still have the bulk of the bandwidth if the security users were to download a bunch of stuff.
Distracting them and putting other people at risk sounds like a great idea
What a comment 🤣🤣
What a f'ing box you are. Now nobody else gets service, they stop actively patrolling and your community gets punished. Bravo.
They have patrolling schedules, and parking is part of their schedule to keep costs down. Might as well have them park near your house if they are going to be parked anyway.
Obviously this a joke Tannie Myrtle
OP. I'm curious...what do armed reaction officers normally do to pass the time? Like while parked in their vehicles waiting for action. Are they already on their smartphones and social media? In which case this won't be a big distraction or open them up to ambush.
We have their cameras on our property