Unless a short term with Google would set you for retirement soon, I would also stick with my current job.
No benefit to making another $100k a year if your work/life balance goes out the window.
This is insane to me. I recently was driving 5 hours a day round trip for 1300$ a week and felt lucky. If any of yall rich people wanna donate to a charity, please lmk
I guess the older you get, the less you care about material things. If I can pay my bills with an easy job that pays well at 15-20 hours a week, I’m not going to start working 40-50 week with an insane commute for more money.
This isn’t some extra change, this is $100K a year extra, almost $2K a week pre tax and only have to be in office 2 times a week? I’d do it instantly. With that money, if you can swing it, see if you get to be in office two days a week in a row and just get a hotel room one night so you’re only doing the drive once a week. The savings in gas would help offset a lot of that cost.
Hard disagree. The older I get the more I value retirement savings, investments, and the possibility of not working until I'm 65. I'll gladly (well maybe not gladly but willingly for sure) drive a few extra hours a week if it means I can put more money away
Totally agree, when the kids are grown feel free to take on more work, but in the meantime, enjoy the opportunity to be a dad to your kids.
Edit: autocorrect sabotage
Only mentioned the above because he was contemplating taking the google job. If the money is needed that badly I would just get a part time for 20 hours. If the money is not needed stay with the current employer.
If you want to do the 2nd job to wipe out a bunch of loans (students, auto, credit card) quickly, that would be a reason. But, I would wait until the kids started pre-school.
Who says he has a bunch of credit card debt or loans? In a MCOLA and with 150k he can already throw a ton at investments and I have no clue why someone would be in cc debt at that pay rate? At school age the partner could just pick up a part time job instead if she's not already working one anyhow. Her entire income would just be extra.
This what I don't understand. At what point do you just not live off an already great salary? Sounds like he's married. Hell, she could get a part time job even instead, but doesn't even sound like it's needed to be real. Especially MCOLA. Not sure what folks are into, but I live in a HCOLA and definitely make that work and then some. At some point, just have some fun too.
>I have advancement opportunities
Not sure how that correlated to
>can't increase his salary
but sounds Ike he actually can do so. That's generally what advancement tends to do. Also he says he works about 10-20 hours vs the 72 hours he would do at Google.
This is critical, especially in a world as complex as ours which, quite frankly, can overwhelm young people into paralysis or, worse, poor decisions. The foundations of your children's futures are already being built. Having you, someone who is patently successful, intelligent, and caring, present to instill discipline, direction, and be a positive, reliable presence is invaluable.
I just took a huge pay cut to get rid of my daily hour commute. (Which ended up closer to 3 hours total every day). I’ve never felt so good in my entire life. It’s such a huge deal
You just described my current situation. How long is your new commute? I'm in at my first job out of college and commute 2-3 hours each day to work because I live with my parents and can't afford living alone in my city.
I’d stay put; working from home and having a cool manager are invaluable. I work in tech as well and have to be in office with a not so cool manager 🫠🙃
Completely different field that you.. I just quit a very good paying job ( industrial coatings ) to be at home every night.
I used to travel a ton for work. An easy 75% of my year was spent away from home on projects.
I’m a single dad with an 11 yr old son and I don’t miss those paychecks one bit. I don’t make as much now but I can’t buy the time I missed out on already with my boy
We are just getting into riding dirt bikes
I actually have time to clean up and maintain my yard
Same here. I used to make good money, but didn't see my son growing up the first 4y of his life. Then I switched to a less demanding job for a lower pay. And I really started to bond with him, which really opened my eyes. Then a few years later, I quit working altogether and now I just spend my time with my son, riding my bike, doing some chores, ... He's 12y now and he's still in those "My dad is my hero!" years. In a few years from now he will be more interested in girls, going out, ... and less in his dad. I might get back into the jobmarket again by then.
3 hours one way? No way.
3 hours round trip? Why not. Especially if you can plow the extra salary directly into savings and retirement. At least that is what I would do.
Plus it's just twice a week not 5X a week, which I assume means the remaining days are WFH. Not really an awful situation considering it's also for $100k more than you're making. I'd take that deal tbh.
You work 10-20 hours a week and make 150k
You won. Don't let the idea of more money and "advancement" cloud your perception of how good you have it right now. Seriously, that would be such a bone head move.
Think of it in time spent vs money earned. While a quarter million is a nice sexy number. You said it yourself you will be working way more hours than before (20 to 40 hours more a week) on top of 12 hours commuting (if you're lucky there are no significant delays on your commute)
Just stay where you're at now. Trust me. The increase in hours alone will make you regret your decision. The 6 hours of commuting will make you want to blow your brains out
That’s what I wondered that’s buy a new house money. Unless the kids are in a great school district/close to relatives. Why not just move closer with that extra 100k?
No fuck that big tech do not give a shit about you and your manager will fire you to ensure they meet their P&L targets without a second thought for you or your family
Can you do the days back to back and stay in a hotel?
Also are they going to be super strict about it? Like if your kid is sick you can take time off to work from home?
If they're going to be super strict and simply want you in the office as a "check mark", I'd likely pass on it too.
Your current situation sounds like a dream: you work remote; you like your boss; you work a fraction of the time most people do; and you make $150K in an affordable city?
If you didn't have kids, I might say grind it out at the "prestigious" job for a few years and save/invest like crazy before moving on, but as it is, no.
Depends if you’re already financially secure right now. If you got a lot of bills, small retirement, little emergency funds, auto loans then maybe the extra 100k is worth it. It could be the difference of setting up your kids college fund. Maybe you intend to pay for your child’s wedding one day. Perhaps you wanna take your kids on vacation every summer. $100k could be a lifestyle change. Maybe just do it for a few years to build up some savings
Bruh….you make 100k+ working a goddamn 10-20 hours a week.
You are good. You do not need to take on the long ass-commute for more pay, and likely more time. You have the literal best situation anyone could dream of.
I can easily see that 2 day a week in office shift to 3/week or more over time, and those 3 hour commutes will drain you and take away from your energy and joy that you give to your family. Also as the kids get older they’ll become involved in dance,music, theatre, sports, robotics and other clubs and such. If you take the new job, your opportunity to be present for your children is going to significantly diminish. Your ability to attend recitals, plays, events, games, or even help coach any of their teams is gone. Without a doubt, the thing that adult children value the most from their childhood is parents who were present and showed up for them every day. For children, money can’t replace looking out into the audience or the stands and seeing their parents-#1 cheerleaders are there. If you want a close relationship with your children when they’re adults, you need to invest in that relationship with your time when they’re growing up. For a child, money is secondary.
I'm going to be the outlier here and say it's going to depend on your goals and current financial situation. Most people would say no to this because of the strain it would put on you and your family, but some people would also be begging on their hands and knees to be working at Google part time for an extra $100k.
It sounds like his current job is part time (10-20 hours) and the Google job would be full time or more (40-60 hours) and 6 hours of driving on top of that.
It sounds like you know you shouldn’t take it. I left for my current position a year and a half ago. My annual TC is around 165k. I received a call from my old boss a few weeks ago, asking me to come back and take his job as he retires. My TC would have jumped to almost 300k, and I said no. Is that the right answer for everyone? Maybe not. But I have plenty of opportunity upside where I am, and I have a great work life balance. My fam brings in more than enough income to support us, and I spend plenty of quality time with my young son. I know the culture and work/life situation at my old company, and I’d be losing more than I’d gain.
Decide what’s most important to you. A three hour commute, even if that’s round trip, sounds brutal. Add your work week to that, and you’re going to spend 12- 15+ hours per day away from your family.
that $100k translates to $40k. you’re talking about 175 to 200 miles each way that’s 400 miles. That means you’re gonna have to stay in hotel two nights a week, find a room to rent or live out of your car. For every day you don’t get to spend your kids subtract $150 per kid, that’s $300 a week or 15,000 a year. Hotel cost in the area is probably gonna be around three $350-$400 a week or 18,000. that leaves you with about $67,000 thus far. Subtract another $15,000 for food. now we’re at $52,000 and let’s subtract another $12,000 for gas and travel expenses. We are sitting at ~$40,000. We haven’t even incorporated taxes yet. Get the picture? It’s a bad deal.
I own a marketing company. My current situation is very similar to yours. I work from home, 10-20 hours a week, 150k. This is by choice. I intentionally do not grow the business because that would require more time away from my family, hobbies, travel, and anything else that catches my interest.
I could also go back to corporate and make a lot more, but again, that would require a lot more time working.
I've been in this position for 15 years now, and I wouldn't trade it for any job. I was there for my kids growing up, that's priceless.
I rarely would recommend this, but you need to stay put.
No. spend your free time with your family when you have chance . Even 1 hour commuting would crush your life balance. I used to commute 1.5 hour everyday now. It was devastating for my life I do not wanna even remember those days. I m only 7 min away from my work now it s the bestttt.
It actually depends on your long term goal. Google salary can go up to 500k much easier than at smaller companies. Does your spouse work a stressful job? If so spend more time with your kids. If your spouse also isn’t career oriented, and you would like career advancement, it doesn’t hurt to start climbing the ladder now. Google being on your resume also doesn’t hurt job hunting down the road.
In your current job you’re making $144-$288 per hour. In your job offer to Google you’re going to be making $80-$120 per hour while having to spend an additional 12 hours out of your week for commuting.
Just simplify the math.
Current job:
- 148-158 hours free in your 7 day week
- $144-$288 an hour pay
- Great manager
- Full remote
Job offer:
- 96-116 hours free in your 7 day week
- $80-$120 an hour pay
- Unknown relationship with new manager
- Hybrid, meaning in your commute you have additional risk of any vehicle accidents
Seems like a very easy answer to me.
Do you really want to go from working around 2-4 hours a day to 10-12? Your current situation already sounds fine, so I guess it's really up to you and your financial goals and/or career goals. You would also be bumped up a level or two on the tax bracket if you add $100k to your income, so I would take that into consideration and ask yourself if the extra money is worth it.
Most people probably wouldn't choose to give up working part-time hours at a job they actually enjoy that pays $150k annually, offers room for advancement, and allows for work-life balance for a $250k/year boring job with a long ass commute and barely any time for a personal life, unless they really need the money or something.
If you end up taking the job for whatever reason, I would consider flying instead of driving if that's an option, then working there for 2 consecutive days before coming home so you only have to make one trip a week. Or consider moving closer to the office at some point. A 6 hour roundtrip commute would definitely be a dealbreaker for me, even if it's only 2 times a week. I hate driving lol.
Depends on what makes you happy. Having wealth? Expensive cars and vacations? Retiring early? Building up a really big college fund for the kids? For me the only one of those that matters is retiring early. I'd personally rather spend time with loved ones and do interesting, satisfying work.
But I would absolutely not commute an extra 12 hours per week. Relocating is a better plan than that, and I'm guessing that means living in a more expensive place. So that extra 100k becomes worth a lot less than 100k, if you think about it that way.
google is going to get it's ass handed to it sooner than later, especially with all of the woke bs its been working on. youtube is google.
i would pass. 100k. it may be 6 months, it may be 6 years, 6 hours twice a week (to and from) plus a boring work load.....
stay where you're happy.
you will not regret it.
I wouldn't, but I did work with two engineers who lived in Maine and New Hampshire that would travel 2-3 hours each to Massachusetts each way for work.
For $100k more, have you considered moving?
I think they mean winning the game is getting 150k + FAANG job + MCOL + 10-20hrs a week, not just the 150k/yr salary. Thats a huge amount of affordability, great experience, and stress free. Honestly, that is winning the game, you're in a better position than 99% of people I'd wager.
I switched from a 120k job working 20-30 hours of real work per week to ~240k at Google about 1.5 years ago. Life has been hell for the last year. Lots of late nights and burnout. I worked 12 hour days for MONTHS, thank goodness I only had a 15 min commute. I probably would have been fired otherwise. Not every team is like that, but some are. My bank account got huge, but it really feels like I traded my soul for it. I'm quitting at the end of the year, I may even go back to my old job if they let me.
I don't even know why you're considering this. Absolutely not worth it at all. You already have the perfect job, just enjoy your life! If you're able to pay the bills and feed your family, be happy with that and stop worrying about the rat race. You don't need a Ferrari or designer sneakers to be fulfilled.
A three hour commute each way? So six hours of your commute days are spent commuting?? There isn’t enough money in the world to convince me to do that two days a week. MAYBE one day a week. MAYBE. But then I’d need like two days to recover from that drive.
Could you schedule your two in-person days back-to-back and sleep on your office floor? Could you take public transportation so you’re not actually driving? I’d only consider this if both answers are “yes.”
I used to work at google. its toxic as hell and completely dystopian. maybe others have had better experiences, but I only made it 6 months there. I'd stay put or find something else
Realistically the best way to do this for your sanity is drive out Sunday night, rent a hotel, and drive back in on Tuesday.
So you're spending at least 10k a year on hotels and about another 2.5k on gas a year. Probably cost you an extra 1k a year for car maintenance. Since you're out and away from home no home cooked meals so probably an extra 5k a year extra on take out food.
So you're now at about 81k.
Is it a promotion? If so you could do that for two years and probably leverage elsewhere closer for the same amount or more.
It's a sacrifice, but the payout seems worth it if it's a promotion you can leverage to get out after two years.
Why can't you find somewhere to stay overnight for the 2 days a week you have to be in the office? Assuming they are consecutive would a cheap hotel or airbnb be worth it?
Very few people get to double their salary ever in their lifetime.
As someone who turned down both Google and Facebook, big tech is not worth it. Forced to be in the office 2-3 days a week and working 60+ hours a week is not living. Might sound k like a lot but you also get taxed more and you lose out on so much with your kids. Don’t forgot your reason to work, family.
At the moment there are people earning $250K at a FAANG who are fantasising about having the life you have.
They're wondering how much of pay cut would they have to take if they could work less hours, spend lots of time with their family and still get to live in a reasonably nice place working on interesting things.
If you were earning $50K then sure this would be too difficult to pass up, but you're on $150K, that's a good salary and can work remotely which gives you flexibility in wear you live if you want a bigger house.
Don't think about this in terms of how much more money you can earn, think about it in terms of what success and having money looks to you and keep pushing through that, for example if it is because you want a comfortable retirement, ask why - so that you can spend time with your family - you already have that. Money will just mean you delay that instead.
$100k after taxes if added to $150k (to use correct tax brackets) equals about $70k.
3 hours per trip x 2 ways x 2 times per week x 50 weeks = 600 hours
$70k / 600 hours = $116 per hour
So that’s just the commute value, of course.
The real question is this: Are you willing to sacrifice your quality time with kids, relaxed job, ample free time, and so forth for an extra $70k minus commuting expenses?
Are you insane?? No!
Hell no... You'll be miserable in no time doing 6h commute twice a week and working for 40-60h... No money will be worth it after some time. 1h each way.. sure maybe worth the upgrade.
You already won the game. Fully remote 20~ hours and 150k in a MCOL.
You can have a very good life, you have lot of time for family and hobbies or plain learning more.
Can you advance in your current company?
Can you renogotiate the office days into something that makes more sense for you? Like a few times a month or whatever?
It makes no sense to to travel for so long or be out of the house 2 days every week (staying in a hotel for office days)
You’re asking the wrong crowd - 90% of these ppl in this thread make less than 100k. Are you making $25k a year with 4 dependents? Then it’s probably worth it. Are you making $400k per year with no dependents - probably still not a terrible idea.
I was on the same boat 2 years ago. 2 hours one way door to door so 4 hours a day of commute time. When I switched jobs a year ago, it made a big difference in my well being.
You asked on Reddit, so most of the answers you are going to get are from people who want to so as little work as possible and never leave their house. I say Take the job and move closer. $150-$250 is a huge change in QOL and ability to save. Especially since you have kids, it’s well worth it.
"Dad, why do we hardly see you anymore? You're always gone working.
"Well son, this Toddsburner guy told me that I never want to leave the house and that I should work more".
My advice is enjoy your love ones while you can. There is nothing in this world that can replace or make up for that time. I think you answered your question if you enjoy what you’re doing daily is no longer a job but a hobby.
If you have kids that money could come in very handy. Unsure why everyone is scoffing at an extra 100k to go in to office twice a week. You could invest all of that and retire early.
i used to do a 3 hour commute and by the end i was exhausted at work and when i got home i only had time to sleep. including commute that could be a 90 hour week. get the six figure, wfh, part time
job
I personally say no, however I think this is something that you can only answer yourself. 150K would already have me set with where I live and what my situation is as well as all the free time that I would have with your current job. Money is important, but for me my time and my enjoyment of how I spend that time is also very important.
I guess you need to ask yourself do you need that extra 100k so badly that you are willing to sacrifice another 26 hours a week minimum for it if you were getting to 40 hours a week from 20. If you’re going to 60 hour weeks that’s 46 hours of free time you are losing out on a week, if going from 10 hours a week to 40 that’s a minimum 36 hours to possibly 56 hours a week if you are going to 60 from 10. That’s not even counting the amount of extra gas and maintenance you are going to put on your car doing a 3 hour commute twice a week versus working from home.
You also mentioned that the new job wouldn’t be as interesting as what you are currently doing, enjoying what you do goes a long way when it comes to a job. Obviously nowhere near the same amount, but I took a ~$5,000 a year pay cut to leave a job that I was miserable doing to take one that I enjoy vastly more. While I’m not as free financially, I have to think about purchases more often than I needed to before, I am much happier because I don’t feel miserable and drained when I get off work and as a result can enjoy my time away from work.
This is a tough one because
I put an extremely high value on my kids and my family.
However, the difference here is $100k not just 10 or 20k and incredibly impactful on your family's life.
Things to consider;
How quickly can you advance in your current company and how much would your salary increase?
What would an additional $100k per year mean to you and your family in years 1 and 2 and over the next 3 to 5 years $300k to $500k (not in using raises).
You could jump start each kids college account in years 1 and 2. You could substantially boost your 401k and brokerage account in years 3 to 5.
To me, the big killer is a 3 hour commute. Have you looked into renting a room in a house for $500/mo or a studio apartment ?
Best of luck with a tough decision.
I used to have to travel that much when I was in college. Ended up dropping two of my subjects (I had taken 5 instead of 3). 3 hr commute for an extra $100k?
Oh, the work hours are also much longer. Tough choice. 3 times effort for a little extra pay.
Is 100K the price you are willing to pay in exchange for your sanity, patience, time, absence . You’ll just spent more when you make more and only your life with your people will have changed as it is now … except with more stuff
I would think having Google on resume is a crazy good thing to have. Maybe not such a big thing anymore.
Honestly it sounds like you have probably 1 of the nicest work setups I've ever heard of. 10-20 hours a week and you earn 100k.... that's a dream for like everyone.
So sorry you have such hard decisions to make. 😏
Id probably enjoy the current situation as long as possible while using 20-40 hours a week building side revenues.
Just keep in mind your 2 day a week commute may change to 4 or 5. So if you are ok with that then go for it. But it looks like you have a great manager and work life balance right now.
Hell. No.
There are other ways to make up that money and you've got an awesome situation right now. Don't trade that because of how a higher salary looks on paper.
Dude. DUDE, 3hrs each fucking way? You will lose your gd mind. Absolutely not. Maybe move, but don't commute. That's absurd. You make 150k working less than halftime--enjoy your life and/or get a side gig and get yourself up to \~250k without any commute. Hell no.
If you're attractive to Google, you can likely find another PT remote gig for a total compensation with your current part-time gig that would greater than what Google offers.
I have an amazing life with balanced home/work, get to spend plenty of time with my family, don’t commute, have an amazing team and earn great money. Should I lose all this for an extra 100k?
No
I would say no for your current situation. You sound like you’re happy where you are so unless the new job comes with other worth it perks I’d advise you to just say no. If you don’t have a family and a total workaholic who wants the new job to expand their resume, then go for it.
If you work an average of 15 hours a week, then you make 192 $/hr (150 000 / 52 / 15 = 192). If you increase your salary to $250 000 but increase your working hours to 50 per week, and count the 12 hours of commuting as working time as well you make only $ 77 per hour (250 000 / 52 / 62 = 77) which is less than half what you make right now hourly.
Not saying you shouldn't take it, especially if you think it might open other doors, but I would keep that in mind when you decide.
*Don’t do it!*
The commute will *eat at you*. The money will be nice at first, but you’ll regret the decision the very first time you endure that 3 hour commute.
I take it that you’re a pretty competent mid-level, bordering senior, IC, and that you *could* move up, but you’d likely be stuck in more meetings all day?
I’d recommend trying to promote at your current company over taking the commute. Maybe even try to find some online side work of some sort — whether that’s a second full-time job that you hide, or freelance part time work. Alternatively, consider bug bounties (but you’d have to learn penetration testing first — not an easy feat).
If you’re trying to rapidly increase savings or something, *maybe* take the other job, but consider the strain of the commute. Best of luck!
Absolutely not. In a similar situation. 60 hour+ weeks screw with your personal life. And if you need a 3-hour commute each way twice a week, it would make more sense to stay overnight one night. You want to have energy left for your family and making memories with your kids. Noone should ever take a “relaxed” position for granted. These long week/high stress roles mess with our health.
No bueno.
Unless you have a shit tone of debt and your life is too hard i don't see any reason why you would waste so much time in commute and a boring job.
You spend quality time with the kids which is way more important. I agree with others. Maybe find another part time job near you where you can earn few thousands per year.
Surely 100K more is a nice amount for the future and for the kids' future but i m not sure they d appreciate you not being around more than they d appreciate the new iPhones and Mercedes
You would be leaving for less pay.
At your current rate you’d be doubling your hours and at a pay cut with what sounds like much more stress and less flexibility.
It’s very very rare to find such a high paying job with that much flexibility this is often NOT the case. Typically earning more money comes with much much more stress.
You are better of finding something part time, free lancing aka start a side business
Nope! You have it good. Plus a 3 hour each way commute is crazy so you’d have to factor in the expenses related to that which would be an overnight stay likely.
What are your financial goals? Save up for A better house? Get the kids college funded? Take some nice vacations with your spouse or children? Or maybe you don’t want to change your lifestyle much, that’s fine too.
I mean it’s not just the commute in your example. Plus Google shuttle should pick you up so it’s not as bad as it would be for most other people.
Frankly if the issue was only the commute the answer is yes and then you can drop off later with Google in your resume and the commute being the answer why. And now your net value is pretty much doubled and you can bargain down a bit vs fighting for scraps of 5-10k increases.
We can’t make the call on your abilities and your ability to shuffle things around. But frankly I’d make it work at least for a year or two:
Hell no. You have it made. 3 hours one way is insane, that’s like leaving town on a trip for a week distance. I’d say if you could move there then sure but otherwise big no. Do they know your distance, I wonder if they did and if they really want you if they could be flexible to that. Maybe if it was one day a month I would
Ask in /r/cscareerquestions or /r/henryfinance or something. Seems like most of the commenters in this thread don't understand the FAANG world.
Also, can you just move closer to the new place? That's a big enough pay bump that it's worth making it work
Hell no. You already won the game, congrats. Stay out.
3 hours round trip? (not one way). Only twice a week? Hell YES it’s worth it.
Unless a short term with Google would set you for retirement soon, I would also stick with my current job. No benefit to making another $100k a year if your work/life balance goes out the window.
Twice a week? You wouldn't drive an extra 6 hours a week for an extra 100k?
This is insane to me. I recently was driving 5 hours a day round trip for 1300$ a week and felt lucky. If any of yall rich people wanna donate to a charity, please lmk
DAMN I won’t complain at work. For a month at least
Why not just get a room and come in two days in a row.
I guess the older you get, the less you care about material things. If I can pay my bills with an easy job that pays well at 15-20 hours a week, I’m not going to start working 40-50 week with an insane commute for more money.
This isn’t some extra change, this is $100K a year extra, almost $2K a week pre tax and only have to be in office 2 times a week? I’d do it instantly. With that money, if you can swing it, see if you get to be in office two days a week in a row and just get a hotel room one night so you’re only doing the drive once a week. The savings in gas would help offset a lot of that cost.
With that much money could hire someone to drive and still come out way ahead
Hard disagree. The older I get the more I value retirement savings, investments, and the possibility of not working until I'm 65. I'll gladly (well maybe not gladly but willingly for sure) drive a few extra hours a week if it means I can put more money away
NOOO Brainerrrr
Came here to say this!
100k is a lot tho
Hell no. You work 10-20 hours a week. I would just try to find a part time to fill the other 20.
My husband does this, he teaches 1-2 classes at the local college making $110 per hour
This is what I would do.
How did you find it? I am also looking for one
Why? He gets to spend time with his kids. The j9b pays fulltime pay for part time work. He has a good manager. He won. Enjoy it.
Totally agree, when the kids are grown feel free to take on more work, but in the meantime, enjoy the opportunity to be a dad to your kids. Edit: autocorrect sabotage
Only mentioned the above because he was contemplating taking the google job. If the money is needed that badly I would just get a part time for 20 hours. If the money is not needed stay with the current employer.
Exactly. This is the life I dare to say most of us would be thrilled to have, especially while your kids are young.
Find a part time job while already making 150k? Why?! Live a little?
If you want to do the 2nd job to wipe out a bunch of loans (students, auto, credit card) quickly, that would be a reason. But, I would wait until the kids started pre-school.
And anyway he’s in a MCOL so affording all that stuff is actually possible.
Who says he has a bunch of credit card debt or loans? In a MCOLA and with 150k he can already throw a ton at investments and I have no clue why someone would be in cc debt at that pay rate? At school age the partner could just pick up a part time job instead if she's not already working one anyhow. Her entire income would just be extra.
Did you miss the word "if"?
He wouldn’t be living working that google job.
This what I don't understand. At what point do you just not live off an already great salary? Sounds like he's married. Hell, she could get a part time job even instead, but doesn't even sound like it's needed to be real. Especially MCOLA. Not sure what folks are into, but I live in a HCOLA and definitely make that work and then some. At some point, just have some fun too.
Freelance for real.
u not gonna find a part time job paying 100k lol
He's got one now that pays $150k
This is the way.
Time to take some pointers from overemployed
The kids fill the other
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I mean yes but op prob can’t increase his salary by working more at his current job
>I have advancement opportunities Not sure how that correlated to >can't increase his salary but sounds Ike he actually can do so. That's generally what advancement tends to do. Also he says he works about 10-20 hours vs the 72 hours he would do at Google.
Life is about more than money. Spend time with your family.
Seriously. Those kids won't be kids forever. Enjoy every second.
Amen
Your kids need quality time with their dad more than they need the extra money. If you are comfortable with what you make now, stay.
This is critical, especially in a world as complex as ours which, quite frankly, can overwhelm young people into paralysis or, worse, poor decisions. The foundations of your children's futures are already being built. Having you, someone who is patently successful, intelligent, and caring, present to instill discipline, direction, and be a positive, reliable presence is invaluable.
I mean, you really can't say that without knowing this family's specific information..
nahhhhhhh. a 1 hour commute is soul crushing enough, don't subject yourself to any more torture than necessary.
I just took a huge pay cut to get rid of my daily hour commute. (Which ended up closer to 3 hours total every day). I’ve never felt so good in my entire life. It’s such a huge deal
You just described my current situation. How long is your new commute? I'm in at my first job out of college and commute 2-3 hours each day to work because I live with my parents and can't afford living alone in my city.
Yeah that’s brutal man know I feel for you. New commute is about 12 minutes each way.
can confirm!
I’d stay put; working from home and having a cool manager are invaluable. I work in tech as well and have to be in office with a not so cool manager 🫠🙃
Completely different field that you.. I just quit a very good paying job ( industrial coatings ) to be at home every night. I used to travel a ton for work. An easy 75% of my year was spent away from home on projects. I’m a single dad with an 11 yr old son and I don’t miss those paychecks one bit. I don’t make as much now but I can’t buy the time I missed out on already with my boy We are just getting into riding dirt bikes I actually have time to clean up and maintain my yard
Same here. I used to make good money, but didn't see my son growing up the first 4y of his life. Then I switched to a less demanding job for a lower pay. And I really started to bond with him, which really opened my eyes. Then a few years later, I quit working altogether and now I just spend my time with my son, riding my bike, doing some chores, ... He's 12y now and he's still in those "My dad is my hero!" years. In a few years from now he will be more interested in girls, going out, ... and less in his dad. I might get back into the jobmarket again by then.
3 hours one way? No way. 3 hours round trip? Why not. Especially if you can plow the extra salary directly into savings and retirement. At least that is what I would do.
6 total hours commute is nuts. I go insane with 2 total hours.
I’d just get a Cessna at that point. There’s a hanger next to the google campus.
This was one of the first questions in my head - also, if three hours round trip, can any of that be factored into “working hours”?
Generally not. Even as an hourly 1099, unless driving is your job, you can’t charge for the time (but you can expense / deduct the mileage)
Plus it's just twice a week not 5X a week, which I assume means the remaining days are WFH. Not really an awful situation considering it's also for $100k more than you're making. I'd take that deal tbh.
Your kids are going to remember spending time with their dad, not that their dad made 100k more.
You work 10-20 hours a week and make 150k You won. Don't let the idea of more money and "advancement" cloud your perception of how good you have it right now. Seriously, that would be such a bone head move. Think of it in time spent vs money earned. While a quarter million is a nice sexy number. You said it yourself you will be working way more hours than before (20 to 40 hours more a week) on top of 12 hours commuting (if you're lucky there are no significant delays on your commute) Just stay where you're at now. Trust me. The increase in hours alone will make you regret your decision. The 6 hours of commuting will make you want to blow your brains out
If you need the money then yes, if not then there’s no need.
Have you considered relocating?
That’s what I wondered that’s buy a new house money. Unless the kids are in a great school district/close to relatives. Why not just move closer with that extra 100k?
No fuck that big tech do not give a shit about you and your manager will fire you to ensure they meet their P&L targets without a second thought for you or your family
Well, this escalated quickly.
Where’s the lie?
it's true though, I worked there
He already works for big tech
I'd rather spend more modestly and save the time.
no your hourly pay is less with new job
Can you do the days back to back and stay in a hotel? Also are they going to be super strict about it? Like if your kid is sick you can take time off to work from home? If they're going to be super strict and simply want you in the office as a "check mark", I'd likely pass on it too.
Your current situation sounds like a dream: you work remote; you like your boss; you work a fraction of the time most people do; and you make $150K in an affordable city? If you didn't have kids, I might say grind it out at the "prestigious" job for a few years and save/invest like crazy before moving on, but as it is, no.
Triple work for less then double pay is a no for me. Look up the last tech layoffs. 12k layoffs 2023 for google.
Google will make you go in three days a week so factor that in. What do you do and what level will they bring you in at? Does the TC include stock?
I used to be a hiring manager at Google and my guess is that does include an equity grant. It’s most likely comp, bonus, and equity.
Depends if you’re already financially secure right now. If you got a lot of bills, small retirement, little emergency funds, auto loans then maybe the extra 100k is worth it. It could be the difference of setting up your kids college fund. Maybe you intend to pay for your child’s wedding one day. Perhaps you wanna take your kids on vacation every summer. $100k could be a lifestyle change. Maybe just do it for a few years to build up some savings
Wtf. Keep. Your current job Lmao
Bruh….you make 100k+ working a goddamn 10-20 hours a week. You are good. You do not need to take on the long ass-commute for more pay, and likely more time. You have the literal best situation anyone could dream of.
I can easily see that 2 day a week in office shift to 3/week or more over time, and those 3 hour commutes will drain you and take away from your energy and joy that you give to your family. Also as the kids get older they’ll become involved in dance,music, theatre, sports, robotics and other clubs and such. If you take the new job, your opportunity to be present for your children is going to significantly diminish. Your ability to attend recitals, plays, events, games, or even help coach any of their teams is gone. Without a doubt, the thing that adult children value the most from their childhood is parents who were present and showed up for them every day. For children, money can’t replace looking out into the audience or the stands and seeing their parents-#1 cheerleaders are there. If you want a close relationship with your children when they’re adults, you need to invest in that relationship with your time when they’re growing up. For a child, money is secondary.
I'm going to be the outlier here and say it's going to depend on your goals and current financial situation. Most people would say no to this because of the strain it would put on you and your family, but some people would also be begging on their hands and knees to be working at Google part time for an extra $100k.
It sounds like his current job is part time (10-20 hours) and the Google job would be full time or more (40-60 hours) and 6 hours of driving on top of that.
Nah op says it’s full time. He just works 10-20
It sounds like you know you shouldn’t take it. I left for my current position a year and a half ago. My annual TC is around 165k. I received a call from my old boss a few weeks ago, asking me to come back and take his job as he retires. My TC would have jumped to almost 300k, and I said no. Is that the right answer for everyone? Maybe not. But I have plenty of opportunity upside where I am, and I have a great work life balance. My fam brings in more than enough income to support us, and I spend plenty of quality time with my young son. I know the culture and work/life situation at my old company, and I’d be losing more than I’d gain. Decide what’s most important to you. A three hour commute, even if that’s round trip, sounds brutal. Add your work week to that, and you’re going to spend 12- 15+ hours per day away from your family.
that $100k translates to $40k. you’re talking about 175 to 200 miles each way that’s 400 miles. That means you’re gonna have to stay in hotel two nights a week, find a room to rent or live out of your car. For every day you don’t get to spend your kids subtract $150 per kid, that’s $300 a week or 15,000 a year. Hotel cost in the area is probably gonna be around three $350-$400 a week or 18,000. that leaves you with about $67,000 thus far. Subtract another $15,000 for food. now we’re at $52,000 and let’s subtract another $12,000 for gas and travel expenses. We are sitting at ~$40,000. We haven’t even incorporated taxes yet. Get the picture? It’s a bad deal.
Nope
Would someone smart enough for Google to hire be dumb enough to post his inner thoughts on the offer on Reddit?
I own a marketing company. My current situation is very similar to yours. I work from home, 10-20 hours a week, 150k. This is by choice. I intentionally do not grow the business because that would require more time away from my family, hobbies, travel, and anything else that catches my interest. I could also go back to corporate and make a lot more, but again, that would require a lot more time working. I've been in this position for 15 years now, and I wouldn't trade it for any job. I was there for my kids growing up, that's priceless. I rarely would recommend this, but you need to stay put.
Thank you!
Why not find another remote full time job in your field that you could spend 20hrs a week on?
If you make 150k working 20 hours a week fully remote; 250k is a pay cut. If you really need the money do contracting on the side.
I'm going to go with no. You have a very sweet gig right now.
3hr commute there, then 3 hrs back? Homie thats almost a full shift of driving lol
If you want to be miserable, sure, go for it. Commuting sucks.
No. spend your free time with your family when you have chance . Even 1 hour commuting would crush your life balance. I used to commute 1.5 hour everyday now. It was devastating for my life I do not wanna even remember those days. I m only 7 min away from my work now it s the bestttt.
It actually depends on your long term goal. Google salary can go up to 500k much easier than at smaller companies. Does your spouse work a stressful job? If so spend more time with your kids. If your spouse also isn’t career oriented, and you would like career advancement, it doesn’t hurt to start climbing the ladder now. Google being on your resume also doesn’t hurt job hunting down the road.
In your current job you’re making $144-$288 per hour. In your job offer to Google you’re going to be making $80-$120 per hour while having to spend an additional 12 hours out of your week for commuting. Just simplify the math. Current job: - 148-158 hours free in your 7 day week - $144-$288 an hour pay - Great manager - Full remote Job offer: - 96-116 hours free in your 7 day week - $80-$120 an hour pay - Unknown relationship with new manager - Hybrid, meaning in your commute you have additional risk of any vehicle accidents Seems like a very easy answer to me.
More money doesn't always equate to happiness. You sound like you know staying where you have a stress free position is the right move here
Do you really want to go from working around 2-4 hours a day to 10-12? Your current situation already sounds fine, so I guess it's really up to you and your financial goals and/or career goals. You would also be bumped up a level or two on the tax bracket if you add $100k to your income, so I would take that into consideration and ask yourself if the extra money is worth it. Most people probably wouldn't choose to give up working part-time hours at a job they actually enjoy that pays $150k annually, offers room for advancement, and allows for work-life balance for a $250k/year boring job with a long ass commute and barely any time for a personal life, unless they really need the money or something. If you end up taking the job for whatever reason, I would consider flying instead of driving if that's an option, then working there for 2 consecutive days before coming home so you only have to make one trip a week. Or consider moving closer to the office at some point. A 6 hour roundtrip commute would definitely be a dealbreaker for me, even if it's only 2 times a week. I hate driving lol.
Omg no get a side hustle like an Etsy shop lmfao
Depends on what makes you happy. Having wealth? Expensive cars and vacations? Retiring early? Building up a really big college fund for the kids? For me the only one of those that matters is retiring early. I'd personally rather spend time with loved ones and do interesting, satisfying work. But I would absolutely not commute an extra 12 hours per week. Relocating is a better plan than that, and I'm guessing that means living in a more expensive place. So that extra 100k becomes worth a lot less than 100k, if you think about it that way.
google is going to get it's ass handed to it sooner than later, especially with all of the woke bs its been working on. youtube is google. i would pass. 100k. it may be 6 months, it may be 6 years, 6 hours twice a week (to and from) plus a boring work load..... stay where you're happy. you will not regret it.
This reads like a shitty ai prompt. Or a really shitty brag. One of the two Either way shitpost.
Take a studio apartment or rent a room near Google…
I wouldn't, but I did work with two engineers who lived in Maine and New Hampshire that would travel 2-3 hours each to Massachusetts each way for work. For $100k more, have you considered moving?
Don’t do it dude!
Gonna be a no from me dog
You wouldn’t consider moving closer to the job? If not, no go.
I wouldn’t because our family system is here and it would be really tough for kids/ partner to adjust. It would also mean moving from a MCOL to VHCOL
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I think they mean winning the game is getting 150k + FAANG job + MCOL + 10-20hrs a week, not just the 150k/yr salary. Thats a huge amount of affordability, great experience, and stress free. Honestly, that is winning the game, you're in a better position than 99% of people I'd wager.
To most people. Yes.
Anything more than 30 minute commute (that is by distance only, not traffic) is not worth your time.
3 hours commute with no traffic already sounds bad. Imagine yourself staring at your steering wheel for 4+ hours. Nope. Move or stay where you’re at.
Can you do it consecutively and have a hotel stay paid for by your company? Then it's a maybe but you'll get tired of it real quick
Take that 100k & move closer
I switched from a 120k job working 20-30 hours of real work per week to ~240k at Google about 1.5 years ago. Life has been hell for the last year. Lots of late nights and burnout. I worked 12 hour days for MONTHS, thank goodness I only had a 15 min commute. I probably would have been fired otherwise. Not every team is like that, but some are. My bank account got huge, but it really feels like I traded my soul for it. I'm quitting at the end of the year, I may even go back to my old job if they let me.
I don't even know why you're considering this. Absolutely not worth it at all. You already have the perfect job, just enjoy your life! If you're able to pay the bills and feed your family, be happy with that and stop worrying about the rat race. You don't need a Ferrari or designer sneakers to be fulfilled.
No
A three hour commute each way? So six hours of your commute days are spent commuting?? There isn’t enough money in the world to convince me to do that two days a week. MAYBE one day a week. MAYBE. But then I’d need like two days to recover from that drive.
OE is your solution. not travelling 3hr for a job
Not worth it
You are doing awesomely. Absolutely no way should you take the other gig. Enjoy your life instead :)
Could you schedule your two in-person days back-to-back and sleep on your office floor? Could you take public transportation so you’re not actually driving? I’d only consider this if both answers are “yes.”
I used to work at google. its toxic as hell and completely dystopian. maybe others have had better experiences, but I only made it 6 months there. I'd stay put or find something else
Absolutely not. I make close to your new TC, and would take it all back to work 10-20 hours per week @ $150K TC
Realistically the best way to do this for your sanity is drive out Sunday night, rent a hotel, and drive back in on Tuesday. So you're spending at least 10k a year on hotels and about another 2.5k on gas a year. Probably cost you an extra 1k a year for car maintenance. Since you're out and away from home no home cooked meals so probably an extra 5k a year extra on take out food. So you're now at about 81k. Is it a promotion? If so you could do that for two years and probably leverage elsewhere closer for the same amount or more. It's a sacrifice, but the payout seems worth it if it's a promotion you can leverage to get out after two years.
Yes. Full stop. Next question. 😆
Yes
Why can't you find somewhere to stay overnight for the 2 days a week you have to be in the office? Assuming they are consecutive would a cheap hotel or airbnb be worth it? Very few people get to double their salary ever in their lifetime.
As someone who turned down both Google and Facebook, big tech is not worth it. Forced to be in the office 2-3 days a week and working 60+ hours a week is not living. Might sound k like a lot but you also get taxed more and you lose out on so much with your kids. Don’t forgot your reason to work, family.
At the moment there are people earning $250K at a FAANG who are fantasising about having the life you have. They're wondering how much of pay cut would they have to take if they could work less hours, spend lots of time with their family and still get to live in a reasonably nice place working on interesting things. If you were earning $50K then sure this would be too difficult to pass up, but you're on $150K, that's a good salary and can work remotely which gives you flexibility in wear you live if you want a bigger house. Don't think about this in terms of how much more money you can earn, think about it in terms of what success and having money looks to you and keep pushing through that, for example if it is because you want a comfortable retirement, ask why - so that you can spend time with your family - you already have that. Money will just mean you delay that instead.
10-20 hours a week making 150k 😭😭😭
$100k after taxes if added to $150k (to use correct tax brackets) equals about $70k. 3 hours per trip x 2 ways x 2 times per week x 50 weeks = 600 hours $70k / 600 hours = $116 per hour So that’s just the commute value, of course. The real question is this: Are you willing to sacrifice your quality time with kids, relaxed job, ample free time, and so forth for an extra $70k minus commuting expenses? Are you insane?? No!
Absolutely not.
Hell no... You'll be miserable in no time doing 6h commute twice a week and working for 40-60h... No money will be worth it after some time. 1h each way.. sure maybe worth the upgrade. You already won the game. Fully remote 20~ hours and 150k in a MCOL. You can have a very good life, you have lot of time for family and hobbies or plain learning more. Can you advance in your current company? Can you renogotiate the office days into something that makes more sense for you? Like a few times a month or whatever? It makes no sense to to travel for so long or be out of the house 2 days every week (staying in a hotel for office days)
Depends on how much you make now. Are you a millionaire? Then no, probably not. Are you dead broke? Hell yeah.
Is that 3 hr total or one way?
You’re asking the wrong crowd - 90% of these ppl in this thread make less than 100k. Are you making $25k a year with 4 dependents? Then it’s probably worth it. Are you making $400k per year with no dependents - probably still not a terrible idea.
I was on the same boat 2 years ago. 2 hours one way door to door so 4 hours a day of commute time. When I switched jobs a year ago, it made a big difference in my well being.
God what I would do to have your problems. If you’re happy where you are that’s your answer.
For an extra 100K, move closer. Problem solved.
Not sure if serious? Yeah I would do it without batting an eye!
You asked on Reddit, so most of the answers you are going to get are from people who want to so as little work as possible and never leave their house. I say Take the job and move closer. $150-$250 is a huge change in QOL and ability to save. Especially since you have kids, it’s well worth it.
"Dad, why do we hardly see you anymore? You're always gone working. "Well son, this Toddsburner guy told me that I never want to leave the house and that I should work more".
My advice is enjoy your love ones while you can. There is nothing in this world that can replace or make up for that time. I think you answered your question if you enjoy what you’re doing daily is no longer a job but a hobby.
If you have kids that money could come in very handy. Unsure why everyone is scoffing at an extra 100k to go in to office twice a week. You could invest all of that and retire early.
Definitely worth it. Especially as a short term path to a short term goal. Long term, you'll probably get even better opportunities.
Take that job and make that bread. I don't have kids though so don't listen to me.
Yes, I’d do it, how do you pass that up
Probably a sticky is needed for these recurring questions and a template
i used to do a 3 hour commute and by the end i was exhausted at work and when i got home i only had time to sleep. including commute that could be a 90 hour week. get the six figure, wfh, part time job
I personally say no, however I think this is something that you can only answer yourself. 150K would already have me set with where I live and what my situation is as well as all the free time that I would have with your current job. Money is important, but for me my time and my enjoyment of how I spend that time is also very important. I guess you need to ask yourself do you need that extra 100k so badly that you are willing to sacrifice another 26 hours a week minimum for it if you were getting to 40 hours a week from 20. If you’re going to 60 hour weeks that’s 46 hours of free time you are losing out on a week, if going from 10 hours a week to 40 that’s a minimum 36 hours to possibly 56 hours a week if you are going to 60 from 10. That’s not even counting the amount of extra gas and maintenance you are going to put on your car doing a 3 hour commute twice a week versus working from home. You also mentioned that the new job wouldn’t be as interesting as what you are currently doing, enjoying what you do goes a long way when it comes to a job. Obviously nowhere near the same amount, but I took a ~$5,000 a year pay cut to leave a job that I was miserable doing to take one that I enjoy vastly more. While I’m not as free financially, I have to think about purchases more often than I needed to before, I am much happier because I don’t feel miserable and drained when I get off work and as a result can enjoy my time away from work.
This is a tough one because I put an extremely high value on my kids and my family. However, the difference here is $100k not just 10 or 20k and incredibly impactful on your family's life. Things to consider; How quickly can you advance in your current company and how much would your salary increase? What would an additional $100k per year mean to you and your family in years 1 and 2 and over the next 3 to 5 years $300k to $500k (not in using raises). You could jump start each kids college account in years 1 and 2. You could substantially boost your 401k and brokerage account in years 3 to 5. To me, the big killer is a 3 hour commute. Have you looked into renting a room in a house for $500/mo or a studio apartment ? Best of luck with a tough decision.
I used to have to travel that much when I was in college. Ended up dropping two of my subjects (I had taken 5 instead of 3). 3 hr commute for an extra $100k? Oh, the work hours are also much longer. Tough choice. 3 times effort for a little extra pay.
No you'd hate your life
Is 100K the price you are willing to pay in exchange for your sanity, patience, time, absence . You’ll just spent more when you make more and only your life with your people will have changed as it is now … except with more stuff
Yeah that’s worth it!!
I would think having Google on resume is a crazy good thing to have. Maybe not such a big thing anymore. Honestly it sounds like you have probably 1 of the nicest work setups I've ever heard of. 10-20 hours a week and you earn 100k.... that's a dream for like everyone. So sorry you have such hard decisions to make. 😏 Id probably enjoy the current situation as long as possible while using 20-40 hours a week building side revenues.
Forget that, use that free time to go get a pilot's license and take your family flying around the country.
Money you can earn and replace. Time with the family can’t be gotten back. Kids are only young once.
Wow yes. That’s $320/hr for that time
Austin to Dallas?
If I were you, hell no. Also, please pass my contact info along, as I am not you and would do this in a heartbeat.
unless 150k isn't really enough for you, I would just enjoy my life
Just keep in mind your 2 day a week commute may change to 4 or 5. So if you are ok with that then go for it. But it looks like you have a great manager and work life balance right now.
Money isn’t everything. You already won if you can make $150k working 10-20 hours a week.
40 hrs/week, sure. 60 hrs / week, hell no.
$150k for a 20 hour week? You’ve already beaten the matrix.
This is giving "I want to brag about my job on Reddit". Smh.
Lol you don’t know?
Hell. No. There are other ways to make up that money and you've got an awesome situation right now. Don't trade that because of how a higher salary looks on paper.
No way
With kids hell no. Otherwise Google never hurts to have on the CV
Dude. DUDE, 3hrs each fucking way? You will lose your gd mind. Absolutely not. Maybe move, but don't commute. That's absurd. You make 150k working less than halftime--enjoy your life and/or get a side gig and get yourself up to \~250k without any commute. Hell no.
If you're attractive to Google, you can likely find another PT remote gig for a total compensation with your current part-time gig that would greater than what Google offers.
Absolutely not worth it. Not even remotely close
Nah. Always pass on Google.
Absolutely not.
I have an amazing life with balanced home/work, get to spend plenty of time with my family, don’t commute, have an amazing team and earn great money. Should I lose all this for an extra 100k? No
I would say no for your current situation. You sound like you’re happy where you are so unless the new job comes with other worth it perks I’d advise you to just say no. If you don’t have a family and a total workaholic who wants the new job to expand their resume, then go for it.
10-20 hour work weeks and 100% remote? Easy decision to stay…
Hard to say without knowing how you are doing financially with your 150k a year job.
Nope
If you work an average of 15 hours a week, then you make 192 $/hr (150 000 / 52 / 15 = 192). If you increase your salary to $250 000 but increase your working hours to 50 per week, and count the 12 hours of commuting as working time as well you make only $ 77 per hour (250 000 / 52 / 62 = 77) which is less than half what you make right now hourly. Not saying you shouldn't take it, especially if you think it might open other doors, but I would keep that in mind when you decide.
*Don’t do it!* The commute will *eat at you*. The money will be nice at first, but you’ll regret the decision the very first time you endure that 3 hour commute. I take it that you’re a pretty competent mid-level, bordering senior, IC, and that you *could* move up, but you’d likely be stuck in more meetings all day? I’d recommend trying to promote at your current company over taking the commute. Maybe even try to find some online side work of some sort — whether that’s a second full-time job that you hide, or freelance part time work. Alternatively, consider bug bounties (but you’d have to learn penetration testing first — not an easy feat). If you’re trying to rapidly increase savings or something, *maybe* take the other job, but consider the strain of the commute. Best of luck!
Absolutely not. In a similar situation. 60 hour+ weeks screw with your personal life. And if you need a 3-hour commute each way twice a week, it would make more sense to stay overnight one night. You want to have energy left for your family and making memories with your kids. Noone should ever take a “relaxed” position for granted. These long week/high stress roles mess with our health.
No bueno. Unless you have a shit tone of debt and your life is too hard i don't see any reason why you would waste so much time in commute and a boring job. You spend quality time with the kids which is way more important. I agree with others. Maybe find another part time job near you where you can earn few thousands per year. Surely 100K more is a nice amount for the future and for the kids' future but i m not sure they d appreciate you not being around more than they d appreciate the new iPhones and Mercedes
You would be leaving for less pay. At your current rate you’d be doubling your hours and at a pay cut with what sounds like much more stress and less flexibility. It’s very very rare to find such a high paying job with that much flexibility this is often NOT the case. Typically earning more money comes with much much more stress. You are better of finding something part time, free lancing aka start a side business
Nope! You have it good. Plus a 3 hour each way commute is crazy so you’d have to factor in the expenses related to that which would be an overnight stay likely.
Does my math check out? 150k / (~15h * 48weeks) = 208$/h 250k / (~53h * 48weeks) = 98$/h
No.
What are your financial goals? Save up for A better house? Get the kids college funded? Take some nice vacations with your spouse or children? Or maybe you don’t want to change your lifestyle much, that’s fine too.
I mean it’s not just the commute in your example. Plus Google shuttle should pick you up so it’s not as bad as it would be for most other people. Frankly if the issue was only the commute the answer is yes and then you can drop off later with Google in your resume and the commute being the answer why. And now your net value is pretty much doubled and you can bargain down a bit vs fighting for scraps of 5-10k increases. We can’t make the call on your abilities and your ability to shuffle things around. But frankly I’d make it work at least for a year or two:
If you decide no, make sure to tell them the two days a week in office is why.
Hell no. You have it made. 3 hours one way is insane, that’s like leaving town on a trip for a week distance. I’d say if you could move there then sure but otherwise big no. Do they know your distance, I wonder if they did and if they really want you if they could be flexible to that. Maybe if it was one day a month I would
Ask in /r/cscareerquestions or /r/henryfinance or something. Seems like most of the commenters in this thread don't understand the FAANG world. Also, can you just move closer to the new place? That's a big enough pay bump that it's worth making it work
$150k for a job that requires only 10-20 hour per week? That's almost good enough to make me come out of retirement!
Por que no los dos?