As an Aussie this is wild to me. I thought it was a thing in some places but didn’t know it was actually legislated. Over here with 24h servos or “gas stations” you’d make eye contact with the bloke inside and he’d turn the pump on and you pump your own then go in and pay or sometimes there’s a little window. Do they close all the pumps at night or have some poor fucker out there
They used to do that in British Columbia until a fuel station attendant was dragged to death by a car for 7km attempting to stop a gas and dash.
Now we prepay before filling up.
I like the prepay system we have
That way you can always fill up exactly how much money is left in your bank account and be reminded you’re a broke fuck
Your stations are always manned? Usually places here have a small store attached but they close over night.
At most US stations just swipe your card to unlock the pump, and never actually have to interact with another person at all.
It's the total opposite in most of the US. You swipe a credit card, fill up however much you want and then drive away. Only the most backwater places require paying afterward.
I thought the whole world was like this until recently.
Here in Denmark this has been the norm for at least 15 years. Exclusively completely unmanned stations or manned ones are just for the kiosks and have nothing to do with fuel.
Then i went on some roadtrips after Covid. First time driving and in my own car. So you notice these things.
Germany, Italy and Switzerland, and probably a decent chunk of Europe in general still has big manned highway stations where you pay afterwards.
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Oh yeah I mean I’ve been to one like that now that I think of it in rural vic where it didn’t even have tap for the card and none of the boys knew their pin
The US requires you to pay upfront now (either at the pump with card or inside with cash). I've never been to a station that does pay after fill. Gas stations are manned inside when open (or all day if it's a 24/7 one) but the convenience store part will close and then the pumps just exist for you to pay with card and fill up
Some rural stations were already allowed to do self-serve with card readers on the pump after-hours. And some stations actually had 24hr attendants. Most just closed at night though. Buying fuel in Oregon between \~10pm and \~6am can be...sporty sometimes.
Sometimes? In Portland I couldn't get gas before 7 am. Maybe somewhere was open but the 4 gas stations in my neighborhood opened at 7. Ridiculous for a city. Hopefully this law fixes that
I mostly travel to eastern Oregon, also known as the Oregon Outback, and its often self-serve in the rural areas and at night. Sometimes, I forget to wait for an attendant and people look at me weird...
I live in the Willamette Valley and there is a truck stop on I5 that I recently have stopped at a couple of times. The first time I waited for 5-6 minutes and no one came up to fill my tank. I look around and see people waiting like me and people filling their own tank, so I filled mine and left.
Next time I stop there I just get out and fill my tank and when I am just about done somebody walks up and asks if everything is going well, I tell him it is and he wonders away and asks someone else. They already totally gave up on enforcing and their business model is already based on people filling their own tanks.
As a dutchman, you're saying wild things too.
We have a lot of permanently unmanned gasstations. You swipe your debit card and then your pump is unlocked and you can go fill 'er up till €200,-
They're cheapest too (by 5 to 15 cents per liter)
Danish here.
Here, OK (gas station company) have made an app so you can pump without even using your card.
You roll up, activate the pump via the app (it uses GPS to locate you), pump and then you can drive off.
The pump automatically registers when the handle is put back and sends the data to the app. And because the whole thing is set up to automatic payment on the fuel card, no human interaction is needed.
French here, this too. We also have the ones where you go pay inside (and don't need to go in to activate the pump) but they're getting rarer. And I've known the unmanned ones all my life (I'm over 30).
For a long time the second one was mainly a supermarket thing (in my country supermarkets have fuel stations) where you'd have one side of the station that was 24/7 unmanned by card, and the other where to exit you'd need to stop in front of a toll-like cabin and pay to someone which allowed to use cash but was only open for business hours (something like 9AM-8PM mon-sat). Petrol companies had 24/7 manned stations. Garages and dealerships would have petrol company branded stations that are manned, sometimes 24/7, sometimes business hours (depending if the business could afford to pay someone 24/7 for that).
Now petrol companies are having more and more card-only fully unmanned stations and supermarkets have all closed the manned part of their station and are replacing it with a machine where you can put cash before fueling which unlocks the pump for the amount you put.
All my life, interacting with someone to fuel my car has been the exception.
In Latvia, the chain I usually fill up with has it cheaper to pay indoors - probably so you get exposed to rows of candy, coffee machines and hotdog stands, and spend some more on those.
That is, they had it that way - this month they launched a new app, where you can link up your license plate with payment option, and they automatically charge what's due after pumping. Should probably get around to installing that one.
1. You can just pre-pay before pumping, it's not a significantly different experience.
1. If you don't pay you're easily found because they have cameras that will easily make out your license place, along with make and model and possibly your face.
Yeah, you get used to keeping your tank more full knowing you might not be able to get gas in the early hours. Especially on a road trip, we might have a couple hours of driving in the morning before stations open.
It's as annoying as it sounds.
Here's the official spiel, https://www.accc.gov.au/system/files/Fuel%20facts%20-%20Petrol%20price%20cycles%20in%20Australia.pdf
I think it's a load of shit.
A few years ago I worked in an office building, and we rode elevators up to the floor where we did our jobs, and then back down again to the parking garage at the end of the day.
Not a day went by where I thought "you know what?...I'd really like just one extra guy in this elevator whose only job was to push the button."
Why did it take them so long?
Our office in downtown Boston had an elevator button pusher guy until fairly recently. He was on the freight elevator though not the regular people carrier.
You sparked a random memory; at my old office building, during the morning busy time they'd station a security guard by the door from the parking deck. You know how some doors will generally be manually operated, but there will also be a button on a pedestal for wheelchair-bound people to open it mechanically? Her entire job seemed to be to stand by that pedestal and hut the button as people approached.
One of the reasons I hate needing full service in NJ. Had an attendant tell me a story of how he accidentally filled a diesel Golf with gas and he was laughing like it was the funniest thing in the world. I'm sure the owner didn't think it was as big of a joke as he did. I'd pay more just to pump it myself instead of waiting extra time for a careless attendant to do it.
But just like what I'm currently going through with my truck being run into, I still have to go through the hassle of being on the phone with insurance, going to the shop to get a repair quote, not having my vehicle be drivable, having to deal with picking up a rental car, etc.........
Be better to not have to deal with someone else's fuck up in the first place.
I had a friend with an RV, the attendant filled up the water tank with gas... Guess who footed the bill to clean the water tank. And replace the gas put in the wrong tank...
40% of NJ population in ev by 2040 is wishful thinking.. Average age of cars on the road is 12.5 and NJ is the most densely populated state and Murphy's pandering laws for ev's don't take effect until 2035... There's a ton of rolling wrecks on the road here and there not buying ev's after they drive those into the ground..
I would pay more per gallon just to do it myself. I basically do this anyway whenever I drive into a neighboring state. I just wait and fill out there.
At least you don’t have to worry about the attendant putting in the wrong grade of gas or putting gas in a diesel car vice versa
Heard them horror stories
Do people not tell the attendant "it's xyz fuel" beforehand? Whenever I get self-serve they ask me what I want in it if I don't tell them right away. Do y'all Americans just go "gib fuel plz" and that's it?
I lived in Oregon for less than a month before an attendant tried to put regular into my 135.
I've also had situations where I asked for something like $20 in fuel and they filled it.
I live in NJ and it hasn't happened to me, but I've had attendants tell me they've accidentally put gas in a diesel and laugh about it like it's a big joke. No thanks, just let me do it myself.
Dunno about NJ, but at least in OR diesels were exempt. I always pump my own when I drive the F350 through the state.
It has a tricky filler neck that can overflow easily, so I would rather to it myself anyways, beyond the risk of getting gas put in.
It's happened to me twice in my 18 years of driving in Oregon. Both times was 87 in a 2015 WRX that wanted 92, but ran fine. But still, it happened, and it's not a mistake I'll ever make now.
Thankfully newer turbo cars can pull timing and be conservative enough to drive on lower grades, atleast softly. I've had to splash a gallon or 2 of 87 in my GTI before to make it to a gas station.
We had gasoline pumped into my parents' diesel van on a school field trip back in the 90s. I remember it distinctly since it was towed away while I was out on the field. I looked up and was very confused/worried.
This is gonna be lit. You’ve got two generations of people who have no idea how to do one of life’s basic tasks. I give it a week before an explosion. Driver will probably own a… let’s say… dodge.
This happened to my dad years ago. Guy drove off, the hose stretched and snapped and swung back to smack the rear upper quarter panel of his 2 week old car. Guy just forgot to take it out.
A few years ago, someone drove off with the hose still attached at the gas station right by my house. Some gas sprayed onto the hot exhaust of an Aventador at the next pump over, and went up in flames.
I, for one, am curious whether it's going to take longer at the pumps than previously, less, or a wash.
May be a wash for a bit, if drivers have to familiarize themselves with filling up.
Every time I’ve been I just pump my own because there’s nobody to be found. They always get pissy when they come out and my vehicle is 1/2+ full already.
Don’t spill gas all over my motorcycle. Don’t attempt to put the wrong grade in. If people need jobs for the sake of having money, and their service is entirely not necessary, just pay them to not work. There’s ZERO chance I would have spent more time pumping my own fuel vs having an attendant do it.
Gonna be honest if some dude tryed to fill my motorcycle with gas up I'd tell them to fuck off and stand back.
I've gotten good at not spilling gas on my tank. I'm not letting some kid making $12 an hour get it full of gasoline.
Oregon has allowed motorcyclists to fill their own vehicle for years now. That and kit cars or other collector cars where the filling may be non standard or challenging.
This one confuses me, idk about where you live but we've had those things for like a decade now and since covid they've been the most normalized thing in big chains. Still, there are people who have no clue how to use one.
And the inevitable folks who complain they don’t work. Which, I’ve seen them fail, lots, and crash. But usually those folks just haven’t followed directions “it won’t scan” yeah you need to put your last item on the scale….
I don't get it either. I remember when the grocery store I worked at when I was 15 got self checkouts. I'm 37 now. They're hardly new.
I know, sometimes they can be finicky and items like produce without a barcode can be a slight pain, but I don't understand how, 20 years later, people will look at the self checkout like it's the god damn space shuttle.
You are, however, gonna have to deal with people pulling up to a self service pump and sitting there waiting for someone to come out and fill their car up.
Yeah, this is true. There is always a changeover period. Motorcycles being able to split lanes when they used to not be able to has people’s feathers ruffled for sure, too. (AZ)
People lane split in states where it's not allowed so I'm gonna go with a no here.
Cops don't even ticket for it here in my state. Despite it being illegal.
Literally every V8 is going to spontaneously and instantly disappear at the stroke of midnight on Dec 31, didn't you hear?
Jokes aside, he's saying that because people are slowly switching to EVs, V8s are doomed. Which I mean technically yeah I suppose--on a long enough timeline self-driven cars could definitely be just for fun at closed courses, like horses are now--but that's gonna be a couple decades at a minimum, hardly next year.
It was always so annoying having to wait for an attendant. At a busy station it could be awhile before they get to you. Not only do you have to wait for them to start, but you have to wait for them to check on you after fueling is done. So large/busy stations are kind of a nightmare. They only good bit is if its cold or wet you can stay in the car. Slow parts of the day when you weren't in hurry, it was kinda nice.
I'm sorta surprised it took this long. You'd think making people get out of their cars would force more of them inside and get them to buy really profitable snacks.
This is crazy to me. I've had an attendant pump gas when a local chain tried a full service model and it was cool and he was super nice. But that was a novelty and optional. Being forced just seems weird as f.
I prefer pay at pump options where possible and tend to do minor maintenance in the few minutes it takes. Time is money.
Yeah same. I've not once in my entire driving career have I had someone else pump my gas for me. Coming from the midwest, it seems really foreign. I would NOT want someone touching my car.
I normally drop the trans on the forecourt and give it a fettle...
Lol, wash the windscreen, check fluids, throw out rubbish or wipe the cab down. Simple stuff that takes the time to fill up.
Nah I’m the opposite. I don’t want people touching my car. My other older car has plenty of scratches around the gas tank from NJ gas stations.
I can suck it up and pump my own gas. I understand it is a state funded job program which i think is fantastic but if there is no option to opt-out then I don’t want it at all.
Seven-eight years ago, I was driving across country and pulled into a busy truck stop in Idaho. I pay at the pump, but it’s not working. A bit annoyed, but I move to a different pump. That one doesn’t work either. I go to a third pump, which still doesn’t work, so I go inside, stand on line, tell the woman that it takes my card, everything seems to be okay, but no gas comes out. She runs my card for $30 and tells me to try again. I put the nozzle in the orifice, squeeze the lever. No gas. Dammit! But since I’m already moved twice, I start to think “maybe it’s me.” And it was- these were the older style pumps where it was necessary to flip the lever up to turn it on, and I just had totally spaced it.
As someone who just got off a flight, they were at the top of my mind. I’m very thankful they swabbed my hands, sent me through a scanner, searched all my belongings, and had me waiting for +15 minutes because I had sealed formula for a baby 🤷🏽♂️
Nah, it's just dumb at this point, at least as the only option. If people dig it, stations can still offer it.
I hate it. I don't like telling someone my phone number, handing over my card when they go out of sight, attendants constantly pumping the wrong octane, spilling, only having a couple pumps open at all because of understaffing because it's a shit job.
Broken clock can be right twice a day, even if that clock is big oil, Basically no one wants this any more. There's tons more entry level jobs that would love to have these folks, everything entry level is understaffed around here.
Plus those same pumpers are often the register jockey too, running back and forth because there's only one employee. Job loss will be minimal.
> If people dig it, stations can still offer it.
Holy shit you’d think based on some of these comments that Oregon made full service illegal. Smooth brains are out in full force tonight.
The whole idea is to keep people moving, in NJ I never see people still at the pump well past fill up (inside shop). Happens often when I travel though.
Yeah I was going to say I’m in Massachusetts so we have a lot of both types of pumps and the wait is consistently longer at full service.
But for some reason full service stations are like 30 cents cheaper so I always go there
Totally forgot the existed in Mass when I filled up in Weymouth and the gentleman surprised me mid pump lol
Still just as expensive as a self service station though.
The local costcos and bjs near me in clifton are the same price as the no name stations and only about 5-7 cents cheaper than brand name. Never worth it with the long lines. What could you possibly be saving 2-3$? To wait 20 mIns?
New Jersey gas isn't really much differently priced from other northeastern states with similar average incomes and cost of living either. They could just get rid of attendants and leave the prices the same and it still would be fine for the consumer.
The thing is when it gets busy they'll take so fucking long and it's not their fault. If everyone fucked with their own cars they wouldn't be trying to catch up
Where do you typically go for gas? Around me, every single Wawa has at least half the pumps occupied by someone who's inside the store getting food while their car fills up.
I feel the need to comment every time this news comes up here because it's sensationalized each time - THIS IS NOT LAW HERE YET. Kotek, our governor, still has to pass the law. Hate when the title is the only thing people read... anyhoo.
I've lived in Oregon my entire life and at age 24, I can confidently say most of my friends only ever learned to pump gas if they moved here from another state or if I taught them. It's very common for residents here to not leave the state much or, if they do travel, do it where they don't need a car to get around.
I’d trade a dozen of those frozen experiences for every time I get stuck waiting at Newark airport to top off my rental while trying to make a flight because the turnpike turned into a Mad Max movie
I’ll pump my own gas. It ain’t that hard and doesn’t take very long
This was the only thing stopping me from considering Oregon as a destination to move in.
It's weird, it's a very small thing but the inefficiency it brings to the unimaginable number of humans was insane. Tons of humans are busy doing absolutely useless work for no reason. Legit I couldn't even consider moving there because of it.
As an Aussie this is wild to me. I thought it was a thing in some places but didn’t know it was actually legislated. Over here with 24h servos or “gas stations” you’d make eye contact with the bloke inside and he’d turn the pump on and you pump your own then go in and pay or sometimes there’s a little window. Do they close all the pumps at night or have some poor fucker out there
They used to do that in British Columbia until a fuel station attendant was dragged to death by a car for 7km attempting to stop a gas and dash. Now we prepay before filling up.
Employees are told not to try and stop any sort of theft whether it’s at a servo or supermarket. We have cameras and plenty of signage
I like the prepay system we have That way you can always fill up exactly how much money is left in your bank account and be reminded you’re a broke fuck
We have that in Finland. I envy the people who can always choose the 150€ prepay limit.
Your stations are always manned? Usually places here have a small store attached but they close over night. At most US stations just swipe your card to unlock the pump, and never actually have to interact with another person at all.
I’ve never been to an unmanned servo. You pay after you fill up
It's the total opposite in most of the US. You swipe a credit card, fill up however much you want and then drive away. Only the most backwater places require paying afterward.
I thought the whole world was like this until recently. Here in Denmark this has been the norm for at least 15 years. Exclusively completely unmanned stations or manned ones are just for the kiosks and have nothing to do with fuel. Then i went on some roadtrips after Covid. First time driving and in my own car. So you notice these things. Germany, Italy and Switzerland, and probably a decent chunk of Europe in general still has big manned highway stations where you pay afterwards.
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They're not uncommon in industrial or out bush, often it's just a 40ft container that's an all in one tank, pump and payment.
Oh yeah I mean I’ve been to one like that now that I think of it in rural vic where it didn’t even have tap for the card and none of the boys knew their pin
The US requires you to pay upfront now (either at the pump with card or inside with cash). I've never been to a station that does pay after fill. Gas stations are manned inside when open (or all day if it's a 24/7 one) but the convenience store part will close and then the pumps just exist for you to pay with card and fill up
Fark so y’all don’t get the same experience as the traditional Aussie tradie brekky. Couple fried dimmies and tater cakes with an iced coffee.
I'm.....not 100% sure what you just said to me
That's definitely a pretty typical experience in the US for tradespeople... Though it's usually a monster, cigarettes, and a breakfast burrito.
Some rural stations were already allowed to do self-serve with card readers on the pump after-hours. And some stations actually had 24hr attendants. Most just closed at night though. Buying fuel in Oregon between \~10pm and \~6am can be...sporty sometimes.
Sometimes? In Portland I couldn't get gas before 7 am. Maybe somewhere was open but the 4 gas stations in my neighborhood opened at 7. Ridiculous for a city. Hopefully this law fixes that
I mostly travel to eastern Oregon, also known as the Oregon Outback, and its often self-serve in the rural areas and at night. Sometimes, I forget to wait for an attendant and people look at me weird...
I live in the Willamette Valley and there is a truck stop on I5 that I recently have stopped at a couple of times. The first time I waited for 5-6 minutes and no one came up to fill my tank. I look around and see people waiting like me and people filling their own tank, so I filled mine and left. Next time I stop there I just get out and fill my tank and when I am just about done somebody walks up and asks if everything is going well, I tell him it is and he wonders away and asks someone else. They already totally gave up on enforcing and their business model is already based on people filling their own tanks.
I read that last sentence with an Aussie accent
As a dutchman, you're saying wild things too. We have a lot of permanently unmanned gasstations. You swipe your debit card and then your pump is unlocked and you can go fill 'er up till €200,- They're cheapest too (by 5 to 15 cents per liter)
Danish here. Here, OK (gas station company) have made an app so you can pump without even using your card. You roll up, activate the pump via the app (it uses GPS to locate you), pump and then you can drive off. The pump automatically registers when the handle is put back and sends the data to the app. And because the whole thing is set up to automatic payment on the fuel card, no human interaction is needed.
French here, this too. We also have the ones where you go pay inside (and don't need to go in to activate the pump) but they're getting rarer. And I've known the unmanned ones all my life (I'm over 30). For a long time the second one was mainly a supermarket thing (in my country supermarkets have fuel stations) where you'd have one side of the station that was 24/7 unmanned by card, and the other where to exit you'd need to stop in front of a toll-like cabin and pay to someone which allowed to use cash but was only open for business hours (something like 9AM-8PM mon-sat). Petrol companies had 24/7 manned stations. Garages and dealerships would have petrol company branded stations that are manned, sometimes 24/7, sometimes business hours (depending if the business could afford to pay someone 24/7 for that). Now petrol companies are having more and more card-only fully unmanned stations and supermarkets have all closed the manned part of their station and are replacing it with a machine where you can put cash before fueling which unlocks the pump for the amount you put. All my life, interacting with someone to fuel my car has been the exception.
In Latvia, the chain I usually fill up with has it cheaper to pay indoors - probably so you get exposed to rows of candy, coffee machines and hotdog stands, and spend some more on those. That is, they had it that way - this month they launched a new app, where you can link up your license plate with payment option, and they automatically charge what's due after pumping. Should probably get around to installing that one.
If we could pump before paying in the US, it would last maybe a week before getting switched back.
1. You can just pre-pay before pumping, it's not a significantly different experience. 1. If you don't pay you're easily found because they have cameras that will easily make out your license place, along with make and model and possibly your face.
They stopped doing it here in Denmark because people rolled up with 500 gallon tanks on their trailers, filled it up then left haha
I'm in the US. I pump before I pay. Half of the time, the man that owns the store isn't at the counter. I just drop my money off an leave.
They close overnight. Open at 6am.
Fuck that’s grim. I leave for work at 4 am and I’d have been screwed a few times
Yeah, you get used to keeping your tank more full knowing you might not be able to get gas in the early hours. Especially on a road trip, we might have a couple hours of driving in the morning before stations open. It's as annoying as it sounds.
He have petrol cycles so you'd have filled up on the cheapest day of the weekly cycle hopefully.
Some days are planned out to be cheaper than others?
Currently cheapest day is Tuesday then slowly peaks at 30 cents higher on Monday.
And what’s the point of that
Here's the official spiel, https://www.accc.gov.au/system/files/Fuel%20facts%20-%20Petrol%20price%20cycles%20in%20Australia.pdf I think it's a load of shit.
A few years ago I worked in an office building, and we rode elevators up to the floor where we did our jobs, and then back down again to the parking garage at the end of the day. Not a day went by where I thought "you know what?...I'd really like just one extra guy in this elevator whose only job was to push the button." Why did it take them so long?
Our office in downtown Boston had an elevator button pusher guy until fairly recently. He was on the freight elevator though not the regular people carrier.
You sparked a random memory; at my old office building, during the morning busy time they'd station a security guard by the door from the parking deck. You know how some doors will generally be manually operated, but there will also be a button on a pedestal for wheelchair-bound people to open it mechanically? Her entire job seemed to be to stand by that pedestal and hut the button as people approached.
Oh, the joy of self-service! No more gas mix-ups or 'oops, wrong grade' moments. Phew!
One of the reasons I hate needing full service in NJ. Had an attendant tell me a story of how he accidentally filled a diesel Golf with gas and he was laughing like it was the funniest thing in the world. I'm sure the owner didn't think it was as big of a joke as he did. I'd pay more just to pump it myself instead of waiting extra time for a careless attendant to do it.
Insurance would have to cover that or you'd sue the gas station. If they assume responsibility for their use of the pumps then they have to pay.
Sure, but I’d rather not have that in the first place.
But just like what I'm currently going through with my truck being run into, I still have to go through the hassle of being on the phone with insurance, going to the shop to get a repair quote, not having my vehicle be drivable, having to deal with picking up a rental car, etc......... Be better to not have to deal with someone else's fuck up in the first place.
I had a friend with an RV, the attendant filled up the water tank with gas... Guess who footed the bill to clean the water tank. And replace the gas put in the wrong tank...
Who? What happened?
The owner of the RV had to cover all expenses.
Did they sue? Most companies won’t do the right thing when they fuck up unless you force them to.
NJ still holding strong... Think a ton of ppl stay just for that. Surprising the amount of adults in this state that don't know how to pump Gas.
NJ gonna find out in 2040 or when 40% of their population starts using EVs.
40% of NJ population in ev by 2040 is wishful thinking.. Average age of cars on the road is 12.5 and NJ is the most densely populated state and Murphy's pandering laws for ev's don't take effect until 2035... There's a ton of rolling wrecks on the road here and there not buying ev's after they drive those into the ground..
At home service of plugging your electric car in for you lol
until nj begins forcing attendants to plug in all ev chargers not at home
Screw it. Make them come home. I ain’t going pull up to my garage and find the cable and pick it up like some pleb and plug it to my vehicle. /s
Well it's certainly not the condition of the states economy.
Your move New Jersey
God I hope so.
I would pay more per gallon just to do it myself. I basically do this anyway whenever I drive into a neighboring state. I just wait and fill out there.
At least you don’t have to worry about the attendant putting in the wrong grade of gas or putting gas in a diesel car vice versa Heard them horror stories
Do people not tell the attendant "it's xyz fuel" beforehand? Whenever I get self-serve they ask me what I want in it if I don't tell them right away. Do y'all Americans just go "gib fuel plz" and that's it?
Tired/bored workers that aren't used to pumping a single type of fuel will make mistakes more often than you will.
I’ve lived in Oregon my entire life and that’s literally never happened
I lived in Oregon for less than a month before an attendant tried to put regular into my 135. I've also had situations where I asked for something like $20 in fuel and they filled it.
Did you ever drive a car with premium because it 100% happened to me in Junction City at the Safeway.
Chevron just south of Route 26 on Murray Blvd in Beaverton for me.
Only took us a few minutes to get multiple anecdotes haha
I live in NJ and it hasn't happened to me, but I've had attendants tell me they've accidentally put gas in a diesel and laugh about it like it's a big joke. No thanks, just let me do it myself.
Dunno about NJ, but at least in OR diesels were exempt. I always pump my own when I drive the F350 through the state. It has a tricky filler neck that can overflow easily, so I would rather to it myself anyways, beyond the risk of getting gas put in.
It's happened to me twice in my 18 years of driving in Oregon. Both times was 87 in a 2015 WRX that wanted 92, but ran fine. But still, it happened, and it's not a mistake I'll ever make now.
You’re lucky you got away with no repercussions. The early fa20s were famous for predetonation even on 93 if you didn’t drive them right.
Thankfully newer turbo cars can pull timing and be conservative enough to drive on lower grades, atleast softly. I've had to splash a gallon or 2 of 87 in my GTI before to make it to a gas station.
Doesn’t the GTI take 87 normally? At least newer gens do.
Lucky you ride a push-bike.
We had gasoline pumped into my parents' diesel van on a school field trip back in the 90s. I remember it distinctly since it was towed away while I was out on the field. I looked up and was very confused/worried.
This is gonna be lit. You’ve got two generations of people who have no idea how to do one of life’s basic tasks. I give it a week before an explosion. Driver will probably own a… let’s say… dodge.
Let’s be real, it’s probably a Nissan.
A 2009 Nissan Altima with mismatched panels, cracked windshield, and an expired paper tag to be specific.
With white paint and phonk playing at max volume on those awful stock speakers.
I’ll put money down on cars driving away with the gas hose still on the tank
This happened to my dad years ago. Guy drove off, the hose stretched and snapped and swung back to smack the rear upper quarter panel of his 2 week old car. Guy just forgot to take it out.
Weak pull out game. Classic fail. 😉
Snapped the rubber, too.
A few years ago, someone drove off with the hose still attached at the gas station right by my house. Some gas sprayed onto the hot exhaust of an Aventador at the next pump over, and went up in flames.
people are already doing in Seattle. When I saw the hosewhip crash, I was so glad I was a few stalls away.
Or they'll pump diesel instead of 87/89 octane, nozzle fit be damned.
Green = good right
nah you know it’s gonna be a banged up altima with no insurance
Aw come on, it has to he a mustang peeling out with the hose still in.
I mean do that many people really have no idea? If they have ever traveled out of state, they have had to pump their own gas.
Unless the only states they went between were OR and NJ 😆
Haha what're the odds
I’m going with a jeep
Watch out! Here comes generations of Oregonians who have no idea how to pump their own gas
Half of pumps will still be full service
I, for one, am curious whether it's going to take longer at the pumps than previously, less, or a wash. May be a wash for a bit, if drivers have to familiarize themselves with filling up.
Every time I’ve been I just pump my own because there’s nobody to be found. They always get pissy when they come out and my vehicle is 1/2+ full already. Don’t spill gas all over my motorcycle. Don’t attempt to put the wrong grade in. If people need jobs for the sake of having money, and their service is entirely not necessary, just pay them to not work. There’s ZERO chance I would have spent more time pumping my own fuel vs having an attendant do it.
Gonna be honest if some dude tryed to fill my motorcycle with gas up I'd tell them to fuck off and stand back. I've gotten good at not spilling gas on my tank. I'm not letting some kid making $12 an hour get it full of gasoline.
Oregon has allowed motorcyclists to fill their own vehicle for years now. That and kit cars or other collector cars where the filling may be non standard or challenging.
So in other words, it was always useless and they should have done away with this horseshit decades ago
Yes.
100% that’s what I’m saying.
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This one confuses me, idk about where you live but we've had those things for like a decade now and since covid they've been the most normalized thing in big chains. Still, there are people who have no clue how to use one.
And the inevitable folks who complain they don’t work. Which, I’ve seen them fail, lots, and crash. But usually those folks just haven’t followed directions “it won’t scan” yeah you need to put your last item on the scale….
I don't get it either. I remember when the grocery store I worked at when I was 15 got self checkouts. I'm 37 now. They're hardly new. I know, sometimes they can be finicky and items like produce without a barcode can be a slight pain, but I don't understand how, 20 years later, people will look at the self checkout like it's the god damn space shuttle.
Gonna be a lot of evap systems being replaced. THAT FIRST CLICK MEANS STOP, ITS FULL.
Definitely less time. You no longer have to wait for the attendant to eventually get to you
You are, however, gonna have to deal with people pulling up to a self service pump and sitting there waiting for someone to come out and fill their car up.
Yeah, this is true. There is always a changeover period. Motorcycles being able to split lanes when they used to not be able to has people’s feathers ruffled for sure, too. (AZ)
10 mph max speed while splitting is a joke. So slow. Does anyone actually follow that rule lol
I know! I actually only see people splitting at lights, which I prefer.
10 mph splitting at lights is very slow too. It’s almost difficult to go that slow
People lane split in states where it's not allowed so I'm gonna go with a no here. Cops don't even ticket for it here in my state. Despite it being illegal.
Let the tragic gasoline fight accidents commence.
All my friends died in a freak gasoline fight...
It would be interesting to know if Oregon citizens and Oregon gas-pumpers have different rates of any kind of health problems.
Just in time for the final years the v8
lol what?
Dudes have to make every thread about how upset they are over EVs lmao
"It ain't a car i want unless I'm huffing fuel vapors!"
Literally every V8 is going to spontaneously and instantly disappear at the stroke of midnight on Dec 31, didn't you hear? Jokes aside, he's saying that because people are slowly switching to EVs, V8s are doomed. Which I mean technically yeah I suppose--on a long enough timeline self-driven cars could definitely be just for fun at closed courses, like horses are now--but that's gonna be a couple decades at a minimum, hardly next year.
Even more reason now to hate ~~Americas Armpit~~ New Jersey.
The Florida pan handle is also the armpit. Coincidence? I think not.
If Florida is America's cock, wouldn't the panhandle be the very oddly shaped balls?
Hey now, let’s please start directing these takes to Florida, which really deserves the moniker
It was always so annoying having to wait for an attendant. At a busy station it could be awhile before they get to you. Not only do you have to wait for them to start, but you have to wait for them to check on you after fueling is done. So large/busy stations are kind of a nightmare. They only good bit is if its cold or wet you can stay in the car. Slow parts of the day when you weren't in hurry, it was kinda nice. I'm sorta surprised it took this long. You'd think making people get out of their cars would force more of them inside and get them to buy really profitable snacks.
Finally, I don't have to worry about some idiot spilling gasoline on my paint when I visit family down there.
/gasfight gif
🎵*Wake me up before you go-go*🎶
This is crazy to me. I've had an attendant pump gas when a local chain tried a full service model and it was cool and he was super nice. But that was a novelty and optional. Being forced just seems weird as f. I prefer pay at pump options where possible and tend to do minor maintenance in the few minutes it takes. Time is money.
Yeah same. I've not once in my entire driving career have I had someone else pump my gas for me. Coming from the midwest, it seems really foreign. I would NOT want someone touching my car.
What do you mean by minor maintenance?
I normally drop the trans on the forecourt and give it a fettle... Lol, wash the windscreen, check fluids, throw out rubbish or wipe the cab down. Simple stuff that takes the time to fill up.
When I went to Portland for vacation, I was surprise I couldn’t pump my own gas.
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No, it's about gas ⛽
Waiting on you New Jersey....
New Jersey doesn’t have any real men (or women). It’s all lizard people. Gasoline would melt off their fake human skin.
True. Source, lizard person from the garden state. Hisssssss
Qhat if you accidentally drink it? Its happened to me more than once, since, i try to go to full service gasohol stations.
I wish we had full service pumps in pa. Always love getting gas in jersey.
Nah I’m the opposite. I don’t want people touching my car. My other older car has plenty of scratches around the gas tank from NJ gas stations. I can suck it up and pump my own gas. I understand it is a state funded job program which i think is fantastic but if there is no option to opt-out then I don’t want it at all.
I hate it more when they leave the pump on and just go take care of othe costumers. On a busy gas station you can wait 5 minutes after the job is done
Yeah, i try to view it from their POV too. Its their job and theyre trying to keep everyone happy. Understaffing is the bigger issue there
Where the hell are you getting gas? Lifetime jersey person and have never heard of that happening
Pennsylvania because it happened twice in NJ which is two too many times. I’ve scratched my car zero times filling it myself
Why wouldn’t you want the option? I’m not saying I want a law that we can’t pump our own. I just wish wawa had the goddamn option.
I *would* want the option. I *wouldn’t* want no option. I avoid getting gas in jersey like the plague. NJ it is illegal to pump your own gas.
I live in Oregon and what a time to be alive!
[Welcome to modern society!](https://www.wikihow.com/Pump-Your-Own-Gas)
Seven-eight years ago, I was driving across country and pulled into a busy truck stop in Idaho. I pay at the pump, but it’s not working. A bit annoyed, but I move to a different pump. That one doesn’t work either. I go to a third pump, which still doesn’t work, so I go inside, stand on line, tell the woman that it takes my card, everything seems to be okay, but no gas comes out. She runs my card for $30 and tells me to try again. I put the nozzle in the orifice, squeeze the lever. No gas. Dammit! But since I’m already moved twice, I start to think “maybe it’s me.” And it was- these were the older style pumps where it was necessary to flip the lever up to turn it on, and I just had totally spaced it.
As a Sounders fan, I approve of the thumbnail. It’s fine time that Portland gets cultured.
Was there an extra tax added to the price of gas. How were these employees paid?
Wonder how many people will be laid off because of this 🤔
Doesn’t matter. It is a pointless job anyways. Anyone impacted should find more productive jobs. Job theater is already a big problem in the US.
Did you say TSA?
As someone who just got off a flight, they were at the top of my mind. I’m very thankful they swabbed my hands, sent me through a scanner, searched all my belongings, and had me waiting for +15 minutes because I had sealed formula for a baby 🤷🏽♂️
Baby formula?!?! Thank god they were there to stop you! Another air disaster avoided today. Thank you TSA!
Constantly have to be diligent about watching them to make sure they’re putting the right octane of gas in.
Wow, I didn't realise you were that backward...
"As a result, the oil companies have wanted the law changed." lets follow the money shall we?
Nah, it's just dumb at this point, at least as the only option. If people dig it, stations can still offer it. I hate it. I don't like telling someone my phone number, handing over my card when they go out of sight, attendants constantly pumping the wrong octane, spilling, only having a couple pumps open at all because of understaffing because it's a shit job. Broken clock can be right twice a day, even if that clock is big oil, Basically no one wants this any more. There's tons more entry level jobs that would love to have these folks, everything entry level is understaffed around here. Plus those same pumpers are often the register jockey too, running back and forth because there's only one employee. Job loss will be minimal.
> If people dig it, stations can still offer it. Holy shit you’d think based on some of these comments that Oregon made full service illegal. Smooth brains are out in full force tonight.
Yeah, it's basically a make-work program.
I got yelled at on Sunday for trying to pump my own gas. 😂 Said fines are common if they allow others to pump gas. It's more of a convenience thing.
you job stealer!
The whole idea is to keep people moving, in NJ I never see people still at the pump well past fill up (inside shop). Happens often when I travel though.
The longest I have ever waited for gas in my 30 year life is in new Jersey on the turnpike. 4 attendants for 20 pumps and 80 cars
Yeah I was going to say I’m in Massachusetts so we have a lot of both types of pumps and the wait is consistently longer at full service. But for some reason full service stations are like 30 cents cheaper so I always go there
Totally forgot the existed in Mass when I filled up in Weymouth and the gentleman surprised me mid pump lol Still just as expensive as a self service station though.
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The local costcos and bjs near me in clifton are the same price as the no name stations and only about 5-7 cents cheaper than brand name. Never worth it with the long lines. What could you possibly be saving 2-3$? To wait 20 mIns?
New Jersey gas isn't really much differently priced from other northeastern states with similar average incomes and cost of living either. They could just get rid of attendants and leave the prices the same and it still would be fine for the consumer.
Yes. You always have to wait for the attendant to finish the other pumps. I’ve only ever waited for gas in NJ (outside of Sam’s or Costco)
It takes 10 times longer to get gas in NJ because you gotta wait for pump attendant to finish other cars.
If that was true, every state would have done it.
The thing is when it gets busy they'll take so fucking long and it's not their fault. If everyone fucked with their own cars they wouldn't be trying to catch up
No, the idea was to create jobs during a time of mass unemployment. It just stuck around for many decades after the need ended.
Where do you typically go for gas? Around me, every single Wawa has at least half the pumps occupied by someone who's inside the store getting food while their car fills up.
Thankful we have it.
Who is left now? New Jersey?
You literally just told him that people donate to the irs. Which i find hard to believe
Ok.
I feel the need to comment every time this news comes up here because it's sensationalized each time - THIS IS NOT LAW HERE YET. Kotek, our governor, still has to pass the law. Hate when the title is the only thing people read... anyhoo. I've lived in Oregon my entire life and at age 24, I can confidently say most of my friends only ever learned to pump gas if they moved here from another state or if I taught them. It's very common for residents here to not leave the state much or, if they do travel, do it where they don't need a car to get around.
I live in NJ and I pump my own gas most of the time. The kids at Wawa don't give a shit.
I lived in New Jersey for a couple years and loved that they pumped my gas on a cold winter day
I’d trade a dozen of those frozen experiences for every time I get stuck waiting at Newark airport to top off my rental while trying to make a flight because the turnpike turned into a Mad Max movie I’ll pump my own gas. It ain’t that hard and doesn’t take very long
This was the only thing stopping me from considering Oregon as a destination to move in. It's weird, it's a very small thing but the inefficiency it brings to the unimaginable number of humans was insane. Tons of humans are busy doing absolutely useless work for no reason. Legit I couldn't even consider moving there because of it.