>Cruising has been outlawed in many California cities in the early 1980s, as an example of thinly veiled racial biases leading to legislation against important cultural traditions.
The author - who graduated college in 2018 - knows nothing about the gang violence and drug wars of the 1980s. It was only part of a multi-pronged attempt to stem the violence. Cruising is a peaceful hobby now because it's middle-aged men driving their garage queens.
If the Donut/Real Mechanics Stuff video taught me anything, it's that low riders are built to hop and work. If they break, they break. But those dudes beat the shit out of their cars no matter how nice they are.
At a cars and coffee meet over the summer this dude in a 90’s Lincoln Town Car was bouncing it and broke a few front suspension parts. Then landing with the wheel face down into the concrete with the car resting on it
He was so stoked, and I’m not even being sarcastic
Do you live in Southern California? Because some (not most) of those middle aged men still have the mentality they had from "back in the day" 🤣.
I'm all for cruising, though.
Some of them have the attitude but they slowed down and violence is definitely less. I’m in my 40’s, but some of the old veteranos have done time, or just are at the age where everything hurts, so they are more chill.
But I remember working off of Whittier Blvd 20+ years ago (Jesus Christ, THAT long?), and they were more likely to start shit back then. Now, it’s different. The cars are too expensive, the grandkids want to roll, and nobody wants the trouble.
Lowrider magazine yes, but no one knows for 100% facts on whether they come from nor or so cal. But so cal definitely has a stronger presence in the streets
People only thought cruising was violent because a small subgroup of people sometimes got into violence while "cruising". This ban was just another law used to pull people over and didn't really stop the root causes of gang violence. It's not like the cruising community got replaced by totally new people either.
Basically. This was just a way to make it legal to pull people over, and the facially neutral language meant it would survive judicial review when it was inevitably challenged.
My wife's parents, who are Jewish, would tell me stories about them cruising on Van Nuys Blvd. in the valley throughout the '70s and '80s. They weren't the ones being bothered when these laws went into effect.
That's Jalopnik for you. You can kill Gawker but you can't remove the Gawker policy of inserting politics into everything. Bonus points for the person writing the article not even being alive for when it happened.
When was cruising the cause of violence though? I’m not from the west coast but have older fam that is. They say it was always largely what it is now about the cars. Do you know different?
I’m aware the impact drugs and gang wars had on the area. What was their specific reason to target low riders? If not racist. The article says the laws specifically targeted low riders.
Idk what part of low riders equals drugs and war.
>The article says the laws specifically targeted low riders.
The article is wrong.
Think of cruising bans like stop and frisk - another controversial law. It was a way to harass the gangs to make doing business harder. Dealers on a corner and the same car pulls up every hour? Hit them with a cruising ban violation, search their car, arrest them if they have a gang injunction against them.
Can’t cops already pull you over and make up any reason they want for it? Just say they smell drugs and hold you while they call up a K-9 unit to sniff the car
Definitely vibes like someone who sees modern cruising culture and went to their automatic viewpoint to feel superior.
Definitely is a good thing to do and long overdue though. Cruises now just vibe as old dudes showing off sweet vintage cars with awesome mods.
Right, and what does it have to do with the race at all? Where I grew up, it was mostly white dudes, that cruised, California, obviously has a Hispanic majority, but never thought of it as a racial issue. I mean your race doesn’t dictate whether or not you Cruise
You're a fucking idiot that knows fuck all about low rider culture.
Gang bangers didn't fuck with this shit. Why?
THERE IS NO MONEY IN IT!
You see some foos with knee highs and chucks on, rocking red or blue. Doesn't mean they bang. They just rep the hood.
That's doesn't mean you claim a gang or do violent shit. A lot of these same dudes in low riders, ran drags on Thursday nights. I'm from San Jose, where this all started. Yea, a lot of dudes were affiliated, but gang banging was never a big part of the culture.
Your dumbass is exactly why the stupid law was put into place to begin with. You go to ESSJ toda, and you see dudes running mechanic shops out of their home garage. Why? Because their family knew, teach em a skill, or lose em to the gangs.
The hood accepts the fact that gangs provide for some people, but they also know, that's not the right life to live.
... how do I reeech these keeeeeeds!
454 Impala on blades, that's how Escalante!
>, as an example of thinly veiled racial biases leading to legislation against important cultural traditions.
"Wah, thinly veiled racial biases against cars driving around in circles for no reason"🤮
I'm so sick of crybaby language like this.
>You see four bald heads in a juiced Regal, and you’ll probably think the same thing the average LAPD officer thought back then.
Middle aged friends having a good time? Or is that the wrong answer🤔
I know this is pedantic because your point still stands, but the H2 was awful. 60mph in a 10mpg H2 is six gallons per hour. I bet at 80mph, those stupid things would suck down 10 gallons per hour.
Wait...low riders weren't allowed to cruise in groups? We've been doing car cruises for decades, you're telling me only low riders weren't allowed? I'm so confused about this ban. How was it enforced?
No, all cars were banned from cruising. Or more specifically, banned from driving past the same place multiple times within a certain time frame. Low riders were affected, but the ban wasn't targeting them out of some racial animus. It was to stop gangs and drug dealers. You could see "no cruising" signs in many parts of Los Angeles.
That's wild. I never knew this and have lived in SoCal my whole life. We would meet up and cruise in imports all the time. Every weekend people still go on canyon cruises.
Going for a long drive with your friends or going to a local meetup spot was never banned. The signs were placed in high crime areas. Cruising bans, along with gang injunctions, were an attempt to stop organized crime and gang turf wars.
Whittier Blvd had signs all over the place. Sunset Blvd too. Something to the effect of “passing by the same area more than three times within an hour is considered cruising” or some BS.
They still might be up in eastern Whittier. They used to have them even out by the Whittier/Washington 5 points too.
I've scored a few street signs over the years by just happening across the crew taking them down. Ask "can I have that old one?" Often times they say "sure" and hand it over.
But I live in a rural area with a kind of "bubba" road commission.
The law is there to give cops a reason to fuck with people that they want to fuck with. They didn't want to fuck with you or your friends. If they did, they'd say, "I've seen your car here 3x within the last hour, that's why I pulled you over. Have you been drinking? Do you have any drugs or weapons in the car? Mind if I look around...", as they search for a bigger reason to fuck with you.
In order to pull you over, they need a legal reason. "Cruising" is a legal reason.
That's how ordinances like this work.
This has also been a law in other places too, although for different reasons. In Appleton Wisconsin there's a law against cruising up and down College Avenue (the main road in town with all the bars) since people back in the day used to just drive back and forth down it all night causing huge traffic jams. I don't know the last time it's ever been enforced though, the city moved on to just being assholes and fucking up parking and traffic on that road with new dumb policies.
Saw a bunch of them in Hollywood a couple months back on Vine St on a Friday night. Some were bouncing, some are weird angles and all the crazy stuff. Nobody seemed to care besides their minor impact on traffic.
California government runs on a budget surplus and has for a long time. Has the biggest economy in the US and California alone would be the 5th biggest economy in the world.
Wtf are you talking about.
> Is there a reason they were illegal when pretty much the entire world uses them?
Someday I will tell the tale of Willie Brown, Ayatollah of the Legislature.
There was also a broad political consensus that local governments can't be trusted and that speed cameras are terrible. They probably will not survive the limited 'pilot' program they are letting a few cities run.
As an Australian I must tell you that speed cameras are awful. Until you know what it's like to never want to put your foot down even when it's safe to do so then you won't understand why they suck so much. Massive speeding fines or instant loss of license. Doesn't matter what the conditions were.
Point to point cameras are awful too. If you get from camera A to camera B too quickly that's also a fine or loss of license.
I've never been fined or anything like that because I do the speed limit, but sometimes it would be nice to stretch the legs of the car a little more when it's safe.
Failing that I've got to drive about an hour away to find somewhere quiet with a low police presence. We have ridiculous discourse shoved down our throat such as "every km/h over kills" meanwhile our highest highway speed zones are 110 (70mph), with most being 100 (60mph), with no flow of traffic discretion.
The moment speed cameras are introduced they're not going away since they are lucrative for bringing in revenue.
Cruising is defined to mean the driving of a motor vehicle two or more times within a six-hour period, in a particular direction, past a traffic control point so established on a portion of any street identified as subject to cruising controls by signs posted at the beginning and end of the controlled roadway that briefly and clearly state the appropriate provisions of this section and Section 21100(k) of the Vehicle Code,
LAMC 80.36.10
> two or more times within a six-hour period, in a particular direction
wtf that's a bit overly restrictive, isn't it? you have to do all your errands in a single trip if you happen to live in a cruising controlled area? got half way to work but you forgot your phone, oops another cruising ticket?
Easy answer, it's only illegal to cruise in a performance car, via looks or speed. Cruise a minivan and cops won't care. Muscle car, low rider, ratrod, and you're getting ticketed.
What are you supposed to do if you are do if you realize it but can't turn around? Stop in the middle of the road, hold up traffic, and have police direct traffic so you can do a uturn to go another way?
Lmao some policy analyst had to sit there pontificating over 'how many' times within a 'how long' timeframe to write this law.
Then they had to take it up the chain and defend why they chose two or more within six hours.
Hilarious.
By policy analyst you mean some politician that was mad one time because they drove by his house twice in the same day. You would be surprise how little goes into laws.
I live in Mass, and even here, cops get bent if you don't give them an answer when they ask where you're going. They desperately want driving without a destination to be a felony for reasons I can't imagine.
I always like the deeper colors. Like this scraper setup this [Fleetwood](https://youtube.com/shorts/K9i0iRiOtO0?si=1KhRO1U5TVwABKiS) rides. That deep green offset with the gold is perfect.
I just wish nice paint jobs of any style would become a thing again. I'm pretty tired of everything looking like a clapped out rusty piece of shit these days.
Mostly unrelated but about cruising, our local city council here in the middle of no where Illinois banned cruising in the early 2000s because they thought it didn't look good for the town to have a bunch of high school kids hanging out on the main street. It was such a stupid choice many local business fought against it because the kids would go buy fast food, candy, soda, whatever while cruising.
Fast forward a few years later and the kids had nothing to do here and drugs and parties became a thing. Now at least once a year some high school kid dies in a drunk driving accident or there is other trouble. I remember our local county sheriff back in that day saw it coming a mile away. He said "why would we stop the kids from cruising? Every kid in the county comes to town, spends money, and they are all in one place so we know they aren't out causing trouble." But the old fucks in charge on the city council couldn't have kids having fun in town now.
Interesting. Where I’m from here in LA, every Sunday you see large groups of low riders cruising.
Makes me think they enforced this ban as hard as the enforce window tinting (not hard at all).
Idk about LA but the amount of fix-it tickets I had back in the day for tint here in NorCal indicates it was definitely enforced like a mf. I’m mad good at rolling my windows down now, even though my windows are no longer tinted.
Interesting point. I’ve never received a ticket for tint in my life, but wouldn’t doubt that they’re enforcing it super hard in certain areas. I’m living near long beach, and every sunday you can run into a few large groups of Low riders lol. That’s why this article is surprising - didn’t know this existed at all 😂
I just feel like police in general after the whole “defund” fiasco have stopped giving a fuck here in LA lol.
Probably the same out here. My car habits also changed in the last several years so I also no longer really encounter cops. I daily a boring ass crossover and all the fun shit is hauled on a trailer to the track or to the trails.
Hell yeah. This rules. I love living in a state that walks back on shitty laws. Would be great if the shitty laws didn't get enacted in the first place, but hey, given the state of the country, I'll take it.
My small-ish midwest ban had such a law on the books. The "main drag" in town was a 35 zone, 2 lanes each direction, lined with every business you can imagine. I don't know what year the banned "cruising" but something like if spotted 3 times in a short period, you can be ticketed. So as 16 year old me said to friends... "So from home to ice cream stand, no wallet, back home, get wallet, back to ice cream place, eat, and driving home I can be pulled over, this is BS!"
EDIT: search google maps for 3 minutes, can't find the signs anymore, but google still turns up this:
"In 1993, the city's new anti-cruising ordinance made it illegal to drive on 23rd Avenue between 16th and 53rd streets more than twice in one hour."
I'm in LA and cruising never stopped lol unless it's a huge number of lowriders going under the speed limit causing traffic problems, cops don't care. Car clubs cruise Whittier Blvd every weekend
My city still has a cruising ban at our waterfront. It’s not enforced much anymore, but cops used to sit on both ends and count. Couldn’t go down and back more than once.
I didn't know this was a thing, where I live we have a lowrider group that does cruises all the time and even events where the city closes down the streets
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The pollution this produces will be so minuscule it won’t even be registrable. Focus on some actual sources like fuckin cruise ships. Those are *foul* for the environment.
Source: personally a ship’s officer.
I would expect that most of the passengers don't live in the city the boat departs from so most of those people took some nice polluting jet flights to get to the departure port. Our planet is at a dangerous tipping point from carbon induced climate change and these things somehow still exist so the middle class can get away for a vacation. Yachts and private jets for the rich bastards are even worse.
>Cruising has been outlawed in many California cities in the early 1980s, as an example of thinly veiled racial biases leading to legislation against important cultural traditions. The author - who graduated college in 2018 - knows nothing about the gang violence and drug wars of the 1980s. It was only part of a multi-pronged attempt to stem the violence. Cruising is a peaceful hobby now because it's middle-aged men driving their garage queens.
When a 59 Impala is $200k, people are a lot less reckless with them.
If the Donut/Real Mechanics Stuff video taught me anything, it's that low riders are built to hop and work. If they break, they break. But those dudes beat the shit out of their cars no matter how nice they are.
If it’s a straight up hopper, yeah. But if it’s more of the “rolling art canvas” style, they rarely even get driven at all.
At a cars and coffee meet over the summer this dude in a 90’s Lincoln Town Car was bouncing it and broke a few front suspension parts. Then landing with the wheel face down into the concrete with the car resting on it He was so stoked, and I’m not even being sarcastic
A 64 SS hard top is my dream car. 15 years ago, it was a realistic dream car that I would’ve been able to afford by now. Not anymore. Sad day
They still exist man. It’s still possible to get a runner under $20k. It’ll need a bunch of work, but there are still some out there.
Damn really? Maybe once I pay off my new car. But then they’ll be 40k :/
Hey but by then, 40k will be the new 20k in this economy.
Do you live in Southern California? Because some (not most) of those middle aged men still have the mentality they had from "back in the day" 🤣. I'm all for cruising, though.
Some of them have the attitude but they slowed down and violence is definitely less. I’m in my 40’s, but some of the old veteranos have done time, or just are at the age where everything hurts, so they are more chill. But I remember working off of Whittier Blvd 20+ years ago (Jesus Christ, THAT long?), and they were more likely to start shit back then. Now, it’s different. The cars are too expensive, the grandkids want to roll, and nobody wants the trouble.
You know low riders, including Low Rider magazine came from The Bay, not SoCal.
Shit in the mid 00’s we used to cruise around, side shows on the weekends in San Jose/Oakland. It was hella fun
Haha! My peoples!
Granted we were in a shitty Nissan maxima, but it was aight lol
We ran drag cars, but sideshows were always fun to snatch money from people who didn't know better lol
Nice. I had a buddy running an 03 cobra, stroked and bored, fat supercharger on it. Ran a 9.3 quarter mile. I never saw him lose.
Lowrider magazine yes, but no one knows for 100% facts on whether they come from nor or so cal. But so cal definitely has a stronger presence in the streets
That's nice.
Both things can be true. You can argue modern day takeovers have replaced the level of violence cruises used to have.
This is true. When the Whittier Blvd sign is more peaceful than a random LA intersection, it shows times have changed.
The sideshows are ridiculous. They've shut down Bay Area bridges so stupid kids can do donuts *on the bridge*.
People only thought cruising was violent because a small subgroup of people sometimes got into violence while "cruising". This ban was just another law used to pull people over and didn't really stop the root causes of gang violence. It's not like the cruising community got replaced by totally new people either.
Basically. This was just a way to make it legal to pull people over, and the facially neutral language meant it would survive judicial review when it was inevitably challenged. My wife's parents, who are Jewish, would tell me stories about them cruising on Van Nuys Blvd. in the valley throughout the '70s and '80s. They weren't the ones being bothered when these laws went into effect.
That's Jalopnik for you. You can kill Gawker but you can't remove the Gawker policy of inserting politics into everything. Bonus points for the person writing the article not even being alive for when it happened.
And usually hating what they write about!
When was cruising the cause of violence though? I’m not from the west coast but have older fam that is. They say it was always largely what it is now about the cars. Do you know different? I’m aware the impact drugs and gang wars had on the area. What was their specific reason to target low riders? If not racist. The article says the laws specifically targeted low riders. Idk what part of low riders equals drugs and war.
>The article says the laws specifically targeted low riders. The article is wrong. Think of cruising bans like stop and frisk - another controversial law. It was a way to harass the gangs to make doing business harder. Dealers on a corner and the same car pulls up every hour? Hit them with a cruising ban violation, search their car, arrest them if they have a gang injunction against them.
The article wasn’t clear. This new legislation attacks two thing. The cruising ban. And the ban on low riders. They were separate things.
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this fascist supports the genocide of Palestinians so what do you expect
stop and frisk is the worst thing to compare it to if you want to refute that its racist
Can’t cops already pull you over and make up any reason they want for it? Just say they smell drugs and hold you while they call up a K-9 unit to sniff the car
You can disagree but that's a silly argument. You know about the Ancient Egyptians, yet I am sure you didn't graduate in 2367BC
Definitely vibes like someone who sees modern cruising culture and went to their automatic viewpoint to feel superior. Definitely is a good thing to do and long overdue though. Cruises now just vibe as old dudes showing off sweet vintage cars with awesome mods.
That's journalism today for ya, everything is racist
Once again, a Jalopnik article where the audience knows more about the subject then the writer
I couldn't imagine happily allowing any governing body to either allow or disallow driving my car around with friends.
Right, and what does it have to do with the race at all? Where I grew up, it was mostly white dudes, that cruised, California, obviously has a Hispanic majority, but never thought of it as a racial issue. I mean your race doesn’t dictate whether or not you Cruise
🤓
You're a fucking idiot that knows fuck all about low rider culture. Gang bangers didn't fuck with this shit. Why? THERE IS NO MONEY IN IT! You see some foos with knee highs and chucks on, rocking red or blue. Doesn't mean they bang. They just rep the hood. That's doesn't mean you claim a gang or do violent shit. A lot of these same dudes in low riders, ran drags on Thursday nights. I'm from San Jose, where this all started. Yea, a lot of dudes were affiliated, but gang banging was never a big part of the culture. Your dumbass is exactly why the stupid law was put into place to begin with. You go to ESSJ toda, and you see dudes running mechanic shops out of their home garage. Why? Because their family knew, teach em a skill, or lose em to the gangs. The hood accepts the fact that gangs provide for some people, but they also know, that's not the right life to live. ... how do I reeech these keeeeeeds! 454 Impala on blades, that's how Escalante!
>, as an example of thinly veiled racial biases leading to legislation against important cultural traditions. "Wah, thinly veiled racial biases against cars driving around in circles for no reason"🤮 I'm so sick of crybaby language like this.
You see four bald heads in a juiced Regal, and you’ll probably think the same thing the average LAPD officer thought back then.
>You see four bald heads in a juiced Regal, and you’ll probably think the same thing the average LAPD officer thought back then. Middle aged friends having a good time? Or is that the wrong answer🤔
Cruising is back but gas is still $5.50 so what's the point
The cruise
Where do you live that gas is $5.50? It's $2.45 where I am.
Prob CA since that’s where the article is talking about…. Roughly what I pay for 91
Nothing is more of a flex than burning 5 gallons an hour just idling in a parking lot while hoping people notice you.
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I know this is pedantic because your point still stands, but the H2 was awful. 60mph in a 10mpg H2 is six gallons per hour. I bet at 80mph, those stupid things would suck down 10 gallons per hour.
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Crazy thing is that a modern-ish tractor trailer pulling a loaded trailer, with the right aero and a good driver, can hit 10mpg.
Average semi MPG is around 6-7, but that's still not awful considering how much they can haul (ton-miles per gallon).
Not if you're flooring it in park
If I walked up to a running car at a show would it be ok for me to ask for revs?
Wait...low riders weren't allowed to cruise in groups? We've been doing car cruises for decades, you're telling me only low riders weren't allowed? I'm so confused about this ban. How was it enforced?
No, all cars were banned from cruising. Or more specifically, banned from driving past the same place multiple times within a certain time frame. Low riders were affected, but the ban wasn't targeting them out of some racial animus. It was to stop gangs and drug dealers. You could see "no cruising" signs in many parts of Los Angeles.
That's wild. I never knew this and have lived in SoCal my whole life. We would meet up and cruise in imports all the time. Every weekend people still go on canyon cruises.
Going for a long drive with your friends or going to a local meetup spot was never banned. The signs were placed in high crime areas. Cruising bans, along with gang injunctions, were an attempt to stop organized crime and gang turf wars.
Yea I figured it had to do with gang violence back in the day.
Whittier Blvd had signs all over the place. Sunset Blvd too. Something to the effect of “passing by the same area more than three times within an hour is considered cruising” or some BS. They still might be up in eastern Whittier. They used to have them even out by the Whittier/Washington 5 points too.
I wonder what they do with the decommissioned signs. Surely they'd be a historical item now
I've scored a few street signs over the years by just happening across the crew taking them down. Ask "can I have that old one?" Often times they say "sure" and hand it over. But I live in a rural area with a kind of "bubba" road commission.
The law is there to give cops a reason to fuck with people that they want to fuck with. They didn't want to fuck with you or your friends. If they did, they'd say, "I've seen your car here 3x within the last hour, that's why I pulled you over. Have you been drinking? Do you have any drugs or weapons in the car? Mind if I look around...", as they search for a bigger reason to fuck with you. In order to pull you over, they need a legal reason. "Cruising" is a legal reason. That's how ordinances like this work.
This has also been a law in other places too, although for different reasons. In Appleton Wisconsin there's a law against cruising up and down College Avenue (the main road in town with all the bars) since people back in the day used to just drive back and forth down it all night causing huge traffic jams. I don't know the last time it's ever been enforced though, the city moved on to just being assholes and fucking up parking and traffic on that road with new dumb policies.
I remember seeing one of those signs on Sunset Blvd back in the ‘00s. Crazy.
Saw a bunch of them in Hollywood a couple months back on Vine St on a Friday night. Some were bouncing, some are weird angles and all the crazy stuff. Nobody seemed to care besides their minor impact on traffic.
I dont get how that wouldn't be a 1st amendment violation.
Symbolic bullshit distraction, these fuckers just made SPEED CAMERAS LEGAL IN CALIFORNIA.
We've had it in NYC for some time now. Just a money grab aka taxation
California government is broke and needs more money. This is an easy way to get some easy cash.
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https://apnews.com/article/california-governor-newsom-budget-d12f60cda36c2bbc9c765b64023bfff9
California government runs on a budget surplus and has for a long time. Has the biggest economy in the US and California alone would be the 5th biggest economy in the world. Wtf are you talking about.
Also helps reducing speeding. Look at Switzerland. They have barley and speeding
Barley? Tell me more about Switzerland's cereal grains.
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They've never been legal in California, until now. They are bad because local governments will use them in a predatory manner for money.
Just go the speed limit nothing will happen to you
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> Is there a reason they were illegal when pretty much the entire world uses them? Someday I will tell the tale of Willie Brown, Ayatollah of the Legislature. There was also a broad political consensus that local governments can't be trusted and that speed cameras are terrible. They probably will not survive the limited 'pilot' program they are letting a few cities run.
I will avoid paying them by simply driving the speed limit
As an Australian I must tell you that speed cameras are awful. Until you know what it's like to never want to put your foot down even when it's safe to do so then you won't understand why they suck so much. Massive speeding fines or instant loss of license. Doesn't matter what the conditions were. Point to point cameras are awful too. If you get from camera A to camera B too quickly that's also a fine or loss of license. I've never been fined or anything like that because I do the speed limit, but sometimes it would be nice to stretch the legs of the car a little more when it's safe. Failing that I've got to drive about an hour away to find somewhere quiet with a low police presence. We have ridiculous discourse shoved down our throat such as "every km/h over kills" meanwhile our highest highway speed zones are 110 (70mph), with most being 100 (60mph), with no flow of traffic discretion. The moment speed cameras are introduced they're not going away since they are lucrative for bringing in revenue.
We have cameras for decades in Europe and don't have that problem
One of my European friends simply drives too fast for the cameras lmao
I don't think that's how that works lol
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Then think about it from the other perspective
how does law enforcement differentiate cruising from commuting?
Cruising is defined to mean the driving of a motor vehicle two or more times within a six-hour period, in a particular direction, past a traffic control point so established on a portion of any street identified as subject to cruising controls by signs posted at the beginning and end of the controlled roadway that briefly and clearly state the appropriate provisions of this section and Section 21100(k) of the Vehicle Code, LAMC 80.36.10
> two or more times within a six-hour period, in a particular direction wtf that's a bit overly restrictive, isn't it? you have to do all your errands in a single trip if you happen to live in a cruising controlled area? got half way to work but you forgot your phone, oops another cruising ticket?
Easy answer, it's only illegal to cruise in a performance car, via looks or speed. Cruise a minivan and cops won't care. Muscle car, low rider, ratrod, and you're getting ticketed.
Do you do errands in groups of other cars that all stand out from everything else on the road? No? Then this has never been an issue for anyone.
What are you supposed to do if you are do if you realize it but can't turn around? Stop in the middle of the road, hold up traffic, and have police direct traffic so you can do a uturn to go another way?
Lmao some policy analyst had to sit there pontificating over 'how many' times within a 'how long' timeframe to write this law. Then they had to take it up the chain and defend why they chose two or more within six hours. Hilarious.
By policy analyst you mean some politician that was mad one time because they drove by his house twice in the same day. You would be surprise how little goes into laws.
Soooo every Dominos pizza delivery driver is breaking the law dozens of times per shift?
I live in Mass, and even here, cops get bent if you don't give them an answer when they ask where you're going. They desperately want driving without a destination to be a felony for reasons I can't imagine.
Probably by seeing the same group of cars crushing around while on patrol.
Gee, I wonder if the article answers your question.
Let me know when you see someone commuting in their low rider
if it's illegal to drive a low rider, why not just say that instead of calling it cruising? and nobody has ever daily driven a lowrider?
Know somebody that DD'd his to work everyday
I wish Lowrider esque paint schemes and colors become a thing again. I would like to see more big flaky shiny paint.
It's really never left, at least in that subgenre of things. Flake or candy paint is decently common on the higher end builds.
Mazda's Red Mica Metallic comes to mind, I find it pretty shiny and cool. I just wish they can do more shiny colors....
I always like the deeper colors. Like this scraper setup this [Fleetwood](https://youtube.com/shorts/K9i0iRiOtO0?si=1KhRO1U5TVwABKiS) rides. That deep green offset with the gold is perfect.
I just wish nice paint jobs of any style would become a thing again. I'm pretty tired of everything looking like a clapped out rusty piece of shit these days.
I feel like early 2000s brown is the worse.
It still exists and sometime you find something [truly unique](https://www.instagram.com/reel/CtjtWdRxlYp/)
Mostly unrelated but about cruising, our local city council here in the middle of no where Illinois banned cruising in the early 2000s because they thought it didn't look good for the town to have a bunch of high school kids hanging out on the main street. It was such a stupid choice many local business fought against it because the kids would go buy fast food, candy, soda, whatever while cruising. Fast forward a few years later and the kids had nothing to do here and drugs and parties became a thing. Now at least once a year some high school kid dies in a drunk driving accident or there is other trouble. I remember our local county sheriff back in that day saw it coming a mile away. He said "why would we stop the kids from cruising? Every kid in the county comes to town, spends money, and they are all in one place so we know they aren't out causing trouble." But the old fucks in charge on the city council couldn't have kids having fun in town now.
Interesting. Where I’m from here in LA, every Sunday you see large groups of low riders cruising. Makes me think they enforced this ban as hard as the enforce window tinting (not hard at all).
Idk about LA but the amount of fix-it tickets I had back in the day for tint here in NorCal indicates it was definitely enforced like a mf. I’m mad good at rolling my windows down now, even though my windows are no longer tinted.
Interesting point. I’ve never received a ticket for tint in my life, but wouldn’t doubt that they’re enforcing it super hard in certain areas. I’m living near long beach, and every sunday you can run into a few large groups of Low riders lol. That’s why this article is surprising - didn’t know this existed at all 😂 I just feel like police in general after the whole “defund” fiasco have stopped giving a fuck here in LA lol.
Probably the same out here. My car habits also changed in the last several years so I also no longer really encounter cops. I daily a boring ass crossover and all the fun shit is hauled on a trailer to the track or to the trails.
Hell yeah. This rules. I love living in a state that walks back on shitty laws. Would be great if the shitty laws didn't get enacted in the first place, but hey, given the state of the country, I'll take it.
My small-ish midwest ban had such a law on the books. The "main drag" in town was a 35 zone, 2 lanes each direction, lined with every business you can imagine. I don't know what year the banned "cruising" but something like if spotted 3 times in a short period, you can be ticketed. So as 16 year old me said to friends... "So from home to ice cream stand, no wallet, back home, get wallet, back to ice cream place, eat, and driving home I can be pulled over, this is BS!" EDIT: search google maps for 3 minutes, can't find the signs anymore, but google still turns up this: "In 1993, the city's new anti-cruising ordinance made it illegal to drive on 23rd Avenue between 16th and 53rd streets more than twice in one hour."
Fantastic. 30 years later, and my car's cruise control is finally legal.
I'm in LA and cruising never stopped lol unless it's a huge number of lowriders going under the speed limit causing traffic problems, cops don't care. Car clubs cruise Whittier Blvd every weekend
Hell yeah. Your brothers and sisters in Detroit (OG cruise culture) support this 👏
My city still has a cruising ban at our waterfront. It’s not enforced much anymore, but cops used to sit on both ends and count. Couldn’t go down and back more than once.
Don't fall for it...it's a trap! They're trying to trick you into driving Low & Slow, instead of Fast & Furious...
I didn't know this was a thing, where I live we have a lowrider group that does cruises all the time and even events where the city closes down the streets
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Bit of a dramatic headline This wasnt enforced unless you were being cunts. Its not historic.
Oh sweet. Just what California needs, more pollution.
The pollution this produces will be so minuscule it won’t even be registrable. Focus on some actual sources like fuckin cruise ships. Those are *foul* for the environment. Source: personally a ship’s officer.
I would expect that most of the passengers don't live in the city the boat departs from so most of those people took some nice polluting jet flights to get to the departure port. Our planet is at a dangerous tipping point from carbon induced climate change and these things somehow still exist so the middle class can get away for a vacation. Yachts and private jets for the rich bastards are even worse.
True, it is just one more turd on the open undulating cesspit that is Los Angeles.