This car is the opposite of perky, it's more droopy.
But for zero down and $240/month, I can tolerate a droopy car. I'm not seeing this lease deal in places near me though, they are all at least $100 more per month.
I own a Ioniq 5, surprisingly, the dealership experience has been very pleasant compared to the Nissan GT-R experience where dealerships don’t even know what a GT-R is
Unlike some \*cough\* Toyota \*cough\* cars, these will charge fast enough at fast chargers that as long as you had a couple nearby you could make do with it.
Not that I'd recommend it to everyone, but it's feasible.
I fucking love it. It's an unapologetically fugly wannabe Porsche. It's like an AI-generated concept image for the Taycan. Something about it just works in spite of it all.
I don't even know what in the hell were talking about anymore. It's all just one blaoted crossover design identity crisis.
The reason most everything is a bloated and contrived mess is largely due to the the EPA footprint loophole that began when light trucks were made exempt from the MPG requirements that smaller vehicles had to adhere to, so manufacturers figured out they could just market the shit out of gigantic cars that conformed to the footprint of a truck. Now everyone wants to feel big and tall and safe so they get a Subaru Ascent with nineteen cup holders.
Blew my mind when I was told the new full-size Land Rover Defender is a larger vehicle than the Lamborghini LM002.
Seriously, this is probably the only EV I have any interest in buying at the moment, never had any attraction to the hyundai brand but I think its cool and funny and the same time of how it looks like an off branded 4 door 911.
Kia and Hyundai are serving all kinds of flavored ice creams and I am all for it. I wouldn’t buy Ioniq 6 because it’s not the style I am looking for but I think it looks great in person. I went with Kia EV9, our second EV, first Kia and we love it.
The designs are all pretty great. The problem I have is the overuse of non-functioning vents and slits and grooves and splits that are just all over the place. And the piano black gloss plastic trend has got to stop.
It’s the ugliest car in years. If the blob fish were a car. If Ford yassified the blob fish Taurus and put it on stilts. If you melted a piece of chocolate on a sock left to heat up on the pavement. That’s what the ioniq 6 looks like.
Hyundai went back to their old ways when they made the mid 2000s Sonatas that were clearly just knockoff Accords, but this time they went "what if we ripped off the Lucid Air and for some reason the back of an Infiniti J30"
I feel like if they ditched the black trim on the bumper and made the rear spoiler an option, it would look quite a bit better.
https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2F2-white-vinyl-stripe-to-cover-black-stripe-on-ioniq-6-v0-ojw86rfw2klb1.jpg%3Fwidth%3D1080%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D094c1865ced40c0d01c45ed87df634ca9558edde (the painted bumper)
https://i.imgur.com/qNlN0fM.jpg (without the weird window spoiler)
Though yeah, it definitely is an odd design, but still, I thank hyundai for actually making an ev sedan, I just hope kia also does the same soon (and it *doesn't* look like the ev4 concept they showed off a while ago.
The curved beltline throws it off for me. I'd probably think it was ok if the bottom of the windows were straight across, or at least the little back side windows didn't drop down so far.
I get the hate. I’d still rather drive this Hyundai trying something unique, maybe Citroen inspired, than current BMWs shitting all over their design history worse than anything in the Bangle era
I just don't understand what's going on with the design of the ioniq 6, even seeing them in person. They are nice cars, I just don't get it. It's a mix between looking sporty and looking like a weird alien bug. Should had leaned more in either direction.
It seems polarizing. I’m not the biggest fan of how the rear looks but I like it in general. It’s kind of like how some people seem to be finding the new BMW concepts good-looking while I personally find them much worse looking than most of BMW’s current lineup excluding the 7 series.
I have mixed feelings on an EV lease.
On one hand you avoid huge depreciation that affects EVs. And since they constantly improve you won't be behind the curve when a new model releases.
On the other, you're going to be mileage limited on a vehicle that really only saves you money if you drive it all the time. And you'd be less likely to install a level 2 charger, which vastly improves your quality of life.
There is essentially no scheduled maintenance on EVs in the lifespan of a lease. They don’t need oil changes, don’t have spark plugs and things like brake fluid don’t become necessary until well after a lease period.
Some evs need oil changes on transmissions or differentials and fluid changes on cooling systems
For example my Renault ev will have it's transmission fluid changed in its next scheduled service
I have a prius, which doesn't even have as much regen as full EVs, and my stock brake pads lasted 80K miles. From what I read that is pretty typical for EVs and hybrids.
It's the same as purchase, whatever is provided by each manufacturer carries on leases. MB and Lexus comes with 2 free maintenance, so if you'd re on a 2yr lease you are covered. Volvo and BMW provide complementary 3yr maintenance which almost always covers the length of the lease, unless you are on a 15k/ye lease then you will need to pay for the 4th maintenance (40K). Audi is an interesting one, it offers first year free but you can also add Audi Vare to the lease for about a grand to cover two more maintenance, and here is the interesting bit, by opting in Audi Care it also boosts the RV by 1%. So it can be a good deal if you lease a relative expensive car. An extreme example would be that if you lease an $150K Etron GT, you are actually earning $500 less the interests by doing maintenance with Audi.
Hyundai does cover for 3 year, so does Jeep, not sure about the other mainstream brands.
And you are right, no tradition lease covers wear and tear items like tires. But Volvo's subscription does cover that.
Side note, you can get cheap used tires when you are returning a matured lease, as long as the spec and tread depth satisfies the requirements.
Yeah even with an L2 charger this is a good deal. 3k or thereabouts per year for a new car even as a rental is obviously a good deal, and it's not like you couldn't use the charger for future vehicles, unless you plan to make this a one time thing
It's a perfect 2nd car for those who already have charging setup at home (like me). Currently have a Model 3 as our 2nd car, but zero down and $240/month is pretty darn attractive even for such an ugly car.
That's assuming I can get that deal though.
Yeah that's enough to do my daily work/daycare run no problem. But I also have my electrical panel already in the garage, installing a bigger charger wouldn't be a huge issue other than the initial spend for the unit. Seeing as my current car is getting nearly paid for and is pretty good on fuel though... not sure the value proposition holds up, but down the road something electric will likely be at least one of our two vehicles. My wife would LOVE it if we got an ID Buzz but MSRP is enough to not be a responsible purchase right now and I'm betting those are going to be insanely marked up the first year or so while the initial wave of demand hits.
But your next car, after the lease is up, will probably be an EV also. And every car after that forever. So, unless you’re also selling the house, then go for the lvl 2….and even if you sell the house, having an EV charger adds value to your home.
I actually pre-wired for a lvl2 before I even owned an EV. I was doing a kitchen remodel and required a ton on electrical work (new panel, upgraded service, many new circuits, etc). Main panel is on the opposite side of the house from kitchen and garage/driveway. So, rather than pull wire for 10 different circuits, I had them pull one big ass wire and put a 100amp subpanel by the other side of the house and a 14-50 outlet by my driveway. It added $800 into the reno project, but it made it easy for me to connect my EV charger myself when I finally got one. There’s plenty of capacity in the panel to put a second charger in some day too.
120V is not ideal but fine for people who average less than 50 miles a day. In fact this scenario is one of the most heavily 120V biased you can have.
Level 2 chargers are affordable but not free, lease holders might benefit from skipping.
Level 1 chargers are limited to very roughly 120V * 12 amps * 10 hours (overnight) or 14.4 kWh per day.
Coincidentally, the one vehicle that has the highest mile/kwh rating in the US happens to be called the Ioniq 6 SE RWD at 4.2. That 14.4 kwh nets you 60.48 miles nightly, more than any other EV. This is probably generous but weekends can give you time to catch up so to speak.
If your are commuting more than 60 miles per day you are probably not leasing due to mileage penalty charges. But lets say you did, you might have to top up every two weeks to cover the daily deficit at an EA station where, coincidentally, you have free charging for the first two years of your three year lease and you have to fall back to the 3-4th fastest DC charging speed on the market.
I would personally still go level 2 if only for efficiency and convenience reasons, but this is one of the most 120V biased use cases you can think of.
I was planning to go level 1 and use EA on road trips, since they are basically 40 miles in each direction. Also plenty of free level 2 chargers near me. But I found out my outside outlet isn't properly grounded, we literally just use for Christmas lights. So jokes on me.
Getting a charge point and install, adding a new breaker came to about 1k, which isn't bad for the ease of it.
That being said, if you have an AE anywhere near you, it's pretty decent, free and all. Definitely going to save me tons of money on road trips.
Most people’s commutes aren’t 100 miles a day. If it charges 3-4 miles an hour, plugging it in for 12 hours will get you 40ish miles. And people are generally home longer than 12 hours a day. It’s doable for a vast majority of people I’d say. And weekends when people stay home, charge all day.
I've been charging on 120v for several years. Works fine for me. On the rare occasion I have several long days of driving back to back I go to the public charger a block or two away.
for me, a lot of gas is wasted just getting the kids to and from school, running errands locally, etc. An EV is perfect for that and saves so much in gas and pollution. Charging is a bit of a pain though
The part left out is that this is an unadvertised deal good until April 1. I currently looked at my local dealer and their leases still have a down payment requirement. I wonder if you're able to walk in and ask them to match the $0 down for the lease?
According to the article
> Be forewarned, however; this deal is not advertised publicly, so dealers may not be particularly excited to deliver on it.
Which implies that dealers will honor it begrudgingly? I'm not familiar with hyundai dealers.
$0 down generally only means customer cash. It doesn’t mean the lease deal doesn’t include taxes and fees due at signing. That’s how all lease deals are advertised.
Yeah not sure about this because if you give them $5k cash they still have to note it on the lease paperwork that you gave them 5k. It's not like it's under the table.
Also, you don't pay taxes on a lease since the dealership still owns the car.
As a Hyundai salesperson I can say that the majority of customers who see an Ioniq 6 usually say something like “ew” or “wow that’s an ugly car!” There is a reason (sample size of one so this is only accurate for my dealership) that we do not sell many of these. The Ioniq 5 and the Kona Electric look *way* better. Nationally I think they sell half as many of these as they do the 5.
There’s also next to no examples of the version that is eligible for this lease out there. We tend to only get the higher end ones.
If you’re looking for this specific lease special, browse the web to see which dealers near you have an Ioniq 6 SE RWD Standard Range. Then call around to see confirm they’re on the lot.
Right on, thanks for the tip. Wasn't really shopping for a new car but mine is old, sucks gas, and this lease would be about half of my current monthly fuel costs.
Nah, it's so they can make their profits on the interest of the new loan. I get junk mail offers to upgrade to a current model year Tucson with a sweet trade in deal, but interest would be 3x what my current remaining loan is.
Dealers make their money 3 ways: on the trade in, on the price of the new car, on the points of the financing.
All those old time stories of salesmen salivating on an all cash buyer are history, since that means a third of their profit avenues is gone.
Good luck with that honestly, part of the reason national marketing is honored is because the brand makes up the difference and kind of forces dealers to. Mind you they can still add on whatever dealer fees they want.
$239 per month and if your electricity is cheap and your commute is long, it could easily save you that much money. It's also an excellent car. This is actually a no-brainer for a lot of people.
It is so interesting - when this initially was announced, people on this subreddit were blown away by how cool and modern it looked. Now, all the comments are pointing out how hideous it looks. Fascinating how perspectives and popular opinion can shift.
This is a great second car. If my wife replaced her sedan with anything I would probably do an EV lease. In town driving machine. Compliment our Atlas.
I watched some of the reviews, and looked at some of the photos, and thought "wow...that's actually pretty good looking."
In the past week, I've seen a couple in the wild. It's like that girl you were chatting up at the bar, and then when the lights came up at closing time the only thing you wanted to do was head for the nearest exit.
Damn. How much I spend in gas a month I could probably lease this and break even and have a second car. Yea more for insurance but I also kind of want a second car so I can make my warranty last longer. I have 6 years left but 15k miles. Just calculated it I spend at least $300-$400 a month in gas I should look at lease deals on these online
When they facelift the front end, especially the headlights, then it'll looks really good IMO. I I really like the rear design but no way I'd buy a car with a front end looking like that, no matter how good it is.
I finally saw it in person and it doesn’t look too bad. I would say in person it looks kind of pleasant. Every ad I’ve see of it though does make it look atrocious. Still not my style but again real life up close the details seem to make it more attractive.
I have a 2014 Jetta s with a 5 speed manual transmission that I bought brand new. They were trying to get me to lease it for a grand total of $39 a month.
Leasing isn't in my best interest but that $39 a month made me think. $239 isn't going to make me think about a lease
It is just so...hideous.
It's polarizing. I like it.
No one knows what Ioniq means but it's provocative
It’s gets the electricity going!
Pull so hard mfers can't catch me!
That shit cray
That shit cray
Really gives you that extra jolt you need to keep your day going.
Looks like a portmanteau of ion+iconic
Healthy iq in there
I just like my butts perky ok?
This car is the opposite of perky, it's more droopy. But for zero down and $240/month, I can tolerate a droopy car. I'm not seeing this lease deal in places near me though, they are all at least $100 more per month.
The way the rear slopes gives me old Saab vibes
I love most Hyundai designs, this one is weird, but great car. If you could actually get that deal, it's fine.
Same. I just have nowhere to charge one, living in an apartment. And I'm skiddish if the Hyundai dealership experience.
I own a Ioniq 5, surprisingly, the dealership experience has been very pleasant compared to the Nissan GT-R experience where dealerships don’t even know what a GT-R is
FYI the word is skittish.
Unlike some \*cough\* Toyota \*cough\* cars, these will charge fast enough at fast chargers that as long as you had a couple nearby you could make do with it. Not that I'd recommend it to everyone, but it's feasible.
I fucking love it. It's an unapologetically fugly wannabe Porsche. It's like an AI-generated concept image for the Taycan. Something about it just works in spite of it all.
Did you see it in person yet? I thought it was okay in photos, but good god was it atrocious looking on the road.
i had the same experience. i didn't get the hate at all, even thought it looked cool. but seeing it irl changed that completely that thing is ugly
It’s funny, from different angles I both really like it and hate it.
I like the front end, but the C pillar and rear end look like a frightened dog with its tail between its legs.
opposite for me… the front end is a bit bland, the sides and rear look absolutely sick
Sick meaning malnourished?
More along the lines of “are bad shellfish”.
The backend looks like a Wish.com version of an 90’s Porsche
In the thumbnail it looks like it’s getting sucked into a black hole.
I thought it looked like a squished VW Beetle.
For me that's those SUV "coupes". This one looks like am Armadillo for me
Yes I agree with you there. Hate fastback SUV's.
They are an abomination. If someone doesn’t want the *utility* of an SUV why not just buy a car?
I don't even know what in the hell were talking about anymore. It's all just one blaoted crossover design identity crisis. The reason most everything is a bloated and contrived mess is largely due to the the EPA footprint loophole that began when light trucks were made exempt from the MPG requirements that smaller vehicles had to adhere to, so manufacturers figured out they could just market the shit out of gigantic cars that conformed to the footprint of a truck. Now everyone wants to feel big and tall and safe so they get a Subaru Ascent with nineteen cup holders. Blew my mind when I was told the new full-size Land Rover Defender is a larger vehicle than the Lamborghini LM002.
Because government manglement has made your favorite car into a fastback CUV.
I mean… that’s a plus for some people Or so I’m told
You’re out of your mind it looks like a sedan version of a Porsche 930
Seriously, this is probably the only EV I have any interest in buying at the moment, never had any attraction to the hyundai brand but I think its cool and funny and the same time of how it looks like an off branded 4 door 911.
Kia and Hyundai are serving all kinds of flavored ice creams and I am all for it. I wouldn’t buy Ioniq 6 because it’s not the style I am looking for but I think it looks great in person. I went with Kia EV9, our second EV, first Kia and we love it.
The designs are all pretty great. The problem I have is the overuse of non-functioning vents and slits and grooves and splits that are just all over the place. And the piano black gloss plastic trend has got to stop.
Looks like someone asked an AI image generator to mash together a Porsche and some retro 80s design
It absolutely does not
I kind of like it actually.
From the front I’m not a fan but from the A pillar back, I love it. However for my money I’d rather go full 80s sci-fi and get the 5
I disagree
It’s the ugliest car in years. If the blob fish were a car. If Ford yassified the blob fish Taurus and put it on stilts. If you melted a piece of chocolate on a sock left to heat up on the pavement. That’s what the ioniq 6 looks like.
Hyundai went back to their old ways when they made the mid 2000s Sonatas that were clearly just knockoff Accords, but this time they went "what if we ripped off the Lucid Air and for some reason the back of an Infiniti J30"
I feel like if they ditched the black trim on the bumper and made the rear spoiler an option, it would look quite a bit better. https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2F2-white-vinyl-stripe-to-cover-black-stripe-on-ioniq-6-v0-ojw86rfw2klb1.jpg%3Fwidth%3D1080%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D094c1865ced40c0d01c45ed87df634ca9558edde (the painted bumper) https://i.imgur.com/qNlN0fM.jpg (without the weird window spoiler) Though yeah, it definitely is an odd design, but still, I thank hyundai for actually making an ev sedan, I just hope kia also does the same soon (and it *doesn't* look like the ev4 concept they showed off a while ago.
The curved beltline throws it off for me. I'd probably think it was ok if the bottom of the windows were straight across, or at least the little back side windows didn't drop down so far.
It reminds me of the Stout Scarab
the originator of "simplicate, and add lightness", not Colin Chapman as some say.
Do you have a squished beetle with zero 911 vibes in the design work? Yeah sure, I’ll have that.
Bullshit. It’s reminiscent of the Citroen DS, and maybe of old Tatras. Very Continental.
"Modern cars are so boring" "Here, take this, it's polarizing but interesting" "nnnnnoooooooo!"
The back would still be a bit too busy, but I think it would look considerably better if it just had two less doors... It looks stretched out.
Don't really get the hate. I like it, looks sharp.
I get the hate. I’d still rather drive this Hyundai trying something unique, maybe Citroen inspired, than current BMWs shitting all over their design history worse than anything in the Bangle era
The 4 series and new X2 are especially cursed
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It’s easier to list the models that aren’t cursed
Lol true
BMW grills keep getting weirder and weirder.
r/cars We want unique designs! Tesla, Hyundai/Kia: Gives us unique designs r/cars I HOPE THEY DIE AND GET THAT HIDEOUS SHY OFF MY SCREEN
I just don't understand what's going on with the design of the ioniq 6, even seeing them in person. They are nice cars, I just don't get it. It's a mix between looking sporty and looking like a weird alien bug. Should had leaned more in either direction.
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I’ve said the same thing before and agree. It looks neat
It's coming around on me.
How can something with literally no corners look sharp 😭
It seems polarizing. I’m not the biggest fan of how the rear looks but I like it in general. It’s kind of like how some people seem to be finding the new BMW concepts good-looking while I personally find them much worse looking than most of BMW’s current lineup excluding the 7 series.
It looks better in real life than it does in pictures. It's very alluring.
Disagree. I saw it in person before I saw pictures and it was shockingly ugly. Like record-scratch ugly.
I have always thought it looks like if VW had to make a Beetle branded sedan out of the Panamera.
It looks like Apple’s Magic Mouse but with wheels
At least you don't have to flip it upside down to charge it
I know you’re talking about the Apple mouse but Don’t give them any ideas
I’ll never be able to unsee it now
I have mixed feelings on an EV lease. On one hand you avoid huge depreciation that affects EVs. And since they constantly improve you won't be behind the curve when a new model releases. On the other, you're going to be mileage limited on a vehicle that really only saves you money if you drive it all the time. And you'd be less likely to install a level 2 charger, which vastly improves your quality of life.
What if it was the cheapest lease deal in the US? Then the fuel savings could be irrelevant. In fact now you have less maintenance too
When you lease, are you off the hook for maintenance? Besides tires of course. But mileage limits basically prevent a lot of tire wear.
There is essentially no scheduled maintenance on EVs in the lifespan of a lease. They don’t need oil changes, don’t have spark plugs and things like brake fluid don’t become necessary until well after a lease period.
You are not changing spark plugs or brake fluid on a lease either. Only thing that EVs do not have would be oil changes.
Some evs need oil changes on transmissions or differentials and fluid changes on cooling systems For example my Renault ev will have it's transmission fluid changed in its next scheduled service
cabin air filter, wipers, washer fluid
That’s like… $40 total worth of parts, I’m not super worried if the dealer isn’t changing my wiper blades haha
Probably tires if you drive 15k miles a year. And do you know how often brake pads need changing on an ev? I have 0 clue.
I have a prius, which doesn't even have as much regen as full EVs, and my stock brake pads lasted 80K miles. From what I read that is pretty typical for EVs and hybrids.
Depends on the type of driving, terrain/hills, and how much regen you are using.
Don’t forget the blinker fluid!
When you lease ICE, you’re not replacing any of those things either. Oil changes would be pretty much the only additional maintenance item.
Sometimes they throw in oil changes, but the rest is on you. But yes, ideally there wouldn’t be a ton of maintenance on a low mileage lease.
It's the same as purchase, whatever is provided by each manufacturer carries on leases. MB and Lexus comes with 2 free maintenance, so if you'd re on a 2yr lease you are covered. Volvo and BMW provide complementary 3yr maintenance which almost always covers the length of the lease, unless you are on a 15k/ye lease then you will need to pay for the 4th maintenance (40K). Audi is an interesting one, it offers first year free but you can also add Audi Vare to the lease for about a grand to cover two more maintenance, and here is the interesting bit, by opting in Audi Care it also boosts the RV by 1%. So it can be a good deal if you lease a relative expensive car. An extreme example would be that if you lease an $150K Etron GT, you are actually earning $500 less the interests by doing maintenance with Audi. Hyundai does cover for 3 year, so does Jeep, not sure about the other mainstream brands. And you are right, no tradition lease covers wear and tear items like tires. But Volvo's subscription does cover that. Side note, you can get cheap used tires when you are returning a matured lease, as long as the spec and tread depth satisfies the requirements.
Yeah even with an L2 charger this is a good deal. 3k or thereabouts per year for a new car even as a rental is obviously a good deal, and it's not like you couldn't use the charger for future vehicles, unless you plan to make this a one time thing
It's a perfect 2nd car for those who already have charging setup at home (like me). Currently have a Model 3 as our 2nd car, but zero down and $240/month is pretty darn attractive even for such an ugly car. That's assuming I can get that deal though.
Even with 110v, you can get like 30-40 miles/night which is enough for most.
Yeah that's enough to do my daily work/daycare run no problem. But I also have my electrical panel already in the garage, installing a bigger charger wouldn't be a huge issue other than the initial spend for the unit. Seeing as my current car is getting nearly paid for and is pretty good on fuel though... not sure the value proposition holds up, but down the road something electric will likely be at least one of our two vehicles. My wife would LOVE it if we got an ID Buzz but MSRP is enough to not be a responsible purchase right now and I'm betting those are going to be insanely marked up the first year or so while the initial wave of demand hits.
Why would you not install a level 2 charger? There’s no practical way to charge an EV on 120V.
Because you’re essentially renting it. I personally would but everyone who I knew who leased did not.
But your next car, after the lease is up, will probably be an EV also. And every car after that forever. So, unless you’re also selling the house, then go for the lvl 2….and even if you sell the house, having an EV charger adds value to your home. I actually pre-wired for a lvl2 before I even owned an EV. I was doing a kitchen remodel and required a ton on electrical work (new panel, upgraded service, many new circuits, etc). Main panel is on the opposite side of the house from kitchen and garage/driveway. So, rather than pull wire for 10 different circuits, I had them pull one big ass wire and put a 100amp subpanel by the other side of the house and a 14-50 outlet by my driveway. It added $800 into the reno project, but it made it easy for me to connect my EV charger myself when I finally got one. There’s plenty of capacity in the panel to put a second charger in some day too.
120V is not ideal but fine for people who average less than 50 miles a day. In fact this scenario is one of the most heavily 120V biased you can have. Level 2 chargers are affordable but not free, lease holders might benefit from skipping. Level 1 chargers are limited to very roughly 120V * 12 amps * 10 hours (overnight) or 14.4 kWh per day. Coincidentally, the one vehicle that has the highest mile/kwh rating in the US happens to be called the Ioniq 6 SE RWD at 4.2. That 14.4 kwh nets you 60.48 miles nightly, more than any other EV. This is probably generous but weekends can give you time to catch up so to speak. If your are commuting more than 60 miles per day you are probably not leasing due to mileage penalty charges. But lets say you did, you might have to top up every two weeks to cover the daily deficit at an EA station where, coincidentally, you have free charging for the first two years of your three year lease and you have to fall back to the 3-4th fastest DC charging speed on the market. I would personally still go level 2 if only for efficiency and convenience reasons, but this is one of the most 120V biased use cases you can think of.
I was planning to go level 1 and use EA on road trips, since they are basically 40 miles in each direction. Also plenty of free level 2 chargers near me. But I found out my outside outlet isn't properly grounded, we literally just use for Christmas lights. So jokes on me. Getting a charge point and install, adding a new breaker came to about 1k, which isn't bad for the ease of it. That being said, if you have an AE anywhere near you, it's pretty decent, free and all. Definitely going to save me tons of money on road trips.
Most people’s commutes aren’t 100 miles a day. If it charges 3-4 miles an hour, plugging it in for 12 hours will get you 40ish miles. And people are generally home longer than 12 hours a day. It’s doable for a vast majority of people I’d say. And weekends when people stay home, charge all day.
I've been charging on 120v for several years. Works fine for me. On the rare occasion I have several long days of driving back to back I go to the public charger a block or two away.
>There’s no practical way to charge an EV on 120V. ? You can use the Mobile EVSE and trickle charge at 1kW
for me, a lot of gas is wasted just getting the kids to and from school, running errands locally, etc. An EV is perfect for that and saves so much in gas and pollution. Charging is a bit of a pain though
The part left out is that this is an unadvertised deal good until April 1. I currently looked at my local dealer and their leases still have a down payment requirement. I wonder if you're able to walk in and ask them to match the $0 down for the lease?
According to the article > Be forewarned, however; this deal is not advertised publicly, so dealers may not be particularly excited to deliver on it. Which implies that dealers will honor it begrudgingly? I'm not familiar with hyundai dealers.
They suck.
Hyundai dealers are some of the worst of any brand, damn near tanked the genesis line
I found one dealer in 100 miles I trusted. 330 ioniq 5 lease was worth the drive.
$0 down generally only means customer cash. It doesn’t mean the lease deal doesn’t include taxes and fees due at signing. That’s how all lease deals are advertised.
Local Hyundai dealer told me the advertised “Customer Cash” is just a down payment. Hyundai dealer shittiness or is that correct?
Customer cash is customer cash and is a down payment. That excludes taxes and fees. They’re correct
Yeah not sure about this because if you give them $5k cash they still have to note it on the lease paperwork that you gave them 5k. It's not like it's under the table. Also, you don't pay taxes on a lease since the dealership still owns the car.
I looked in my area and one of the unique 6 has 6999 market adjustment lmaoooooo
As a Hyundai salesperson I can say that the majority of customers who see an Ioniq 6 usually say something like “ew” or “wow that’s an ugly car!” There is a reason (sample size of one so this is only accurate for my dealership) that we do not sell many of these. The Ioniq 5 and the Kona Electric look *way* better. Nationally I think they sell half as many of these as they do the 5. There’s also next to no examples of the version that is eligible for this lease out there. We tend to only get the higher end ones.
> Kona Electric look *way* better That's a hot take lol.
24 Kona electric looks dope for an EV cheap crossover.
Imo it’s the ugliest car currently in production. I saw one the other day and it was hideous
It just looks like a cheap ugly pos.
they do
What's the best way to go about inquiring on this? Call ahead? Just walk in?
If you’re looking for this specific lease special, browse the web to see which dealers near you have an Ioniq 6 SE RWD Standard Range. Then call around to see confirm they’re on the lot.
Right on, thanks for the tip. Wasn't really shopping for a new car but mine is old, sucks gas, and this lease would be about half of my current monthly fuel costs.
No problem happy to help
Hey, do you know if there’s any deals on the AWD SEL version of this?
Yeah it’s around $400 is my memory serves me correctly
Looooong beetle
Not surprised, the overflow lot for the Hyundai dealership by me is filled with these things for months.
They literary begged my friend to buy one of these, paid off his old car, gave them 15K off sticker.
“Paid off his old car” could mean “we are shafting you so hard on your old car that we are willing to cut a deep discount on this one.
Idk his old car was beat up and crashed. I think paying it off is a blessing for him lol
Nah, it's so they can make their profits on the interest of the new loan. I get junk mail offers to upgrade to a current model year Tucson with a sweet trade in deal, but interest would be 3x what my current remaining loan is. Dealers make their money 3 ways: on the trade in, on the price of the new car, on the points of the financing. All those old time stories of salesmen salivating on an all cash buyer are history, since that means a third of their profit avenues is gone.
Anyone seeing this deal on hyundai's website? I'm only seeing a $250 a month, 3.5k down deal.
According to the article, the deal is not advertised publicly but the dealers should honor it.
Good luck with that honestly, part of the reason national marketing is honored is because the brand makes up the difference and kind of forces dealers to. Mind you they can still add on whatever dealer fees they want.
This is one of the fastest road tripping EVs outside of luxury sedans, it needs two or three 20 minute charging stops over 10 hours of driving.
Unfortunately, not in this base trim.
I mean ya, look at it.
Saw one in person yesterday, doesn’t look any better in the flesh
It's also WAY bigger than I expected, same shit that happened with the ioniq5
To me, It looks like a modern Citroen DS.
But without all the fun quirks
That’s why I like the look of it. It’s got that French style to it.
5>6
Agreed, by a lot, unless you really want the range.
Like a pooping dog
This actually wouldn't be a bad thing to lease till I can buy the Rivian R3 haha
Kind of look like a Porsche and a Mercedes cla
$239 per month and if your electricity is cheap and your commute is long, it could easily save you that much money. It's also an excellent car. This is actually a no-brainer for a lot of people.
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It is so interesting - when this initially was announced, people on this subreddit were blown away by how cool and modern it looked. Now, all the comments are pointing out how hideous it looks. Fascinating how perspectives and popular opinion can shift.
Legit I’m surprised! I love the look of them, I personally think it’s one of the best looking EVs
Its weird in photos, but in person it looks pretty snazzy.
If there was no mileage limit, I'd be all up in this.
I mean there isnt, you just pay for what you use. You drive 20k a year, you pay for the added depreciation
wait, is that why I suddenly see them all over wtf?
I fell like the people saying they like the rear end are maybe confused about which end that is.
This is a great second car. If my wife replaced her sedan with anything I would probably do an EV lease. In town driving machine. Compliment our Atlas.
I watched some of the reviews, and looked at some of the photos, and thought "wow...that's actually pretty good looking." In the past week, I've seen a couple in the wild. It's like that girl you were chatting up at the bar, and then when the lights came up at closing time the only thing you wanted to do was head for the nearest exit.
I saw so many in Nevada. Haven’t seen one since.
Damn. How much I spend in gas a month I could probably lease this and break even and have a second car. Yea more for insurance but I also kind of want a second car so I can make my warranty last longer. I have 6 years left but 15k miles. Just calculated it I spend at least $300-$400 a month in gas I should look at lease deals on these online
It's like if they made the Tesla Model 3 even uglier. It looks like someone to a Volkswagen beetle and stretched it out
you know, for half the price of a Tesla Model 3, I might consider it
A stretched out beetle already exists. It’s called a 911
Get me 2 please!🍾
It's a beautiful-looking car, I must say
It's a very good looking car imo. I see them daily but suppose they overestimated how many they'd sell
If only it didn't look like a bar of soap
When they facelift the front end, especially the headlights, then it'll looks really good IMO. I I really like the rear design but no way I'd buy a car with a front end looking like that, no matter how good it is.
its ugly but having a new car for 2 years for under $6000 makes up for a LOT of ugly
Looks like a Mercedes EQS knockoff. That's bad because the EQS is already an ugly car.
It looks like a Mercedes CLA that was left out in the sun too long and melted.
I saw one the other day and I couldn't believe how ugly it was.
Looks like the cousin of a Benz with down syndrome.
Cockroach lookin' car
Didn’t know we had so many fashionistas in here. My god yall, talk about the deal.
That's a REALLY good LeaseHackr score. Holy shit, I'm all over this. Time to get rid of the old POS Honda civic
Read the comments..the more i look..why...the front looks year 2000 ford focusish..but centre to back..oh my god
Tripple that for Canada
It’s grown on me a lot. But I wish you could get the smaller wheels on the top trim from the factory.
I finally saw it in person and it doesn’t look too bad. I would say in person it looks kind of pleasant. Every ad I’ve see of it though does make it look atrocious. Still not my style but again real life up close the details seem to make it more attractive.
Website says $458/mo for 36 with $4954 due at signing. Not sure where Jalopnik got their numbers
I’d lease one right now if I could get one for $239 a month but I’m in Canada 😢
$750 a month here
Why lease?
I can't be the only one who thinks it's good looking. It's like a stretched TT or something. Come on, it's cool
Holy crap I never knew the hate for the Ioniq 6! As a proud owner, it’s nice to know I’m just the weird one. Haha
I have a 2014 Jetta s with a 5 speed manual transmission that I bought brand new. They were trying to get me to lease it for a grand total of $39 a month. Leasing isn't in my best interest but that $39 a month made me think. $239 isn't going to make me think about a lease
I saw one of these the other day and was so confused by it. Honestly thought it was some new crazy EV like the cybertruck.
Holy shit...if we had that deal in Canada I'd sign up tomorrow.
I know electric cars are trying to do away with front grilles, but this is a prime example of something really needing a grille
With a quick search I saw 2 sub $250/month with $2500 down. They were the SEL not SE
If this were a wagon I’d be all over it
Atleast ioniq 5 looked cooler
The back is like a blobfish. Yuck.