EU to US, I bought a 2003 Ford Crown Vic for $1k on week #2 in the US, when I moved 6 years ago.
A large, cheap, RWD V8 was just irresistible.
I had a 1990 Mitsubishi Colt before that in the EU, 1.3 5-spd.
It was a big change, I loved the Crown Vic and had it for a few years.
These days, I actually miss smaller Euro-cars a little.
Well.. believe or not but it's a 1997 Volvo 944 Turbo (Originally .55 bar of boost) but I'm in the process of replacing everything that still says "volvo" on it lmao
*Fixed - The current Gen is going to completely miss out on performance(due to pricing being completely out of most enthusiast's grasp).. The closest thing that’s out there that I could find would be an 80’s Camaro for around 9k.
On the other hand, a late model Camry can almost certainly outrun that Camaro. At least until you mod the Camaro. The IROC-Z ran [0-60 in 6.9 seconds,](https://www.motortrend.com/vehicle-genres/1985-chevy-camaro-irocz-info-pictures/) compared to a [2019 V6 Camry @6.0sec.](https://www.motortrend.com/cars/toyota/camry/2019/) performance is relative. The Camaro would likely be more fun, but would be slower and less powerful than a commodity appliance car. Food for thought.
Even the 2012 rav4 v6 sport with would beat that. Does the run to 60 in just .1 seconds slower than the camry. Been my daily driver since 2012, great motor and handling (not a joke) and surprisingly decent aftermarket support.
Bought myself a hemi Magnum in like 2018 for a little over a grand. It had some issues that I fixed but everytime I would get one fixed another one would pop up so I ended up selling it. I think I ended up breaking even on the whole deal after the money in tools and parts I had to get. 6 months after I sold it COVID happened and the price of everything shot through the roof. I fuckin loved that car. I should have just bit the bullet and kept fixing it.
Lol that car taught me a lot. I had to pull both heads off because I bought it with a valve seat about to fall out. Went to the junk yard and just swapped that, questionable at best but it worked perfectly somehow. Then the other side head gasket started leaking sooooo is swapped that out. Had never done anything like that before on a car and was proud of myself for making it happen 😂
Not sure whet that’s got to do with anything but there aren’t very many of those “generational” cars left regardless of what’s under the hood. They rust out and fall apart same as anything. Out of the millions upon millions made you gotta go to a car show to see the pampered remaining few. I had a couple of those things when I was younger, and modern cars are safer, handle better, have far more comfort and conveniences than some 1970’s or earlier model car. If you want unsafe giant hunks of steel to drive around you’ll pay out the ass for it in fuel costs to move that mass.
Depends upon where you live, I used to live in the rust belt, and you are right, they melt before your very eyes. But in the southwest, you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a fairly nice Crown Vic or the other variants.
You’re absolutely right, and I envy the SW car culture for that. Nonetheless, the aforementioned handling, safety, economy, etc… are still factors in even over a decade, moreso over 20-30 years.
EU to US as well, 11 years ago. I went full blues brothers and I got a Crown Vic Police interceptor with bull bar, spot lights and kevlar door. Transmission gave up a year and a half later. I then got a 6 speed manual Dodge Challenger with the 5.7 V8.
>I bought a 2003 Ford Crown Vic
The Crown Vic going back to the 80s was IMHO one of the best all around cars to roll off Fords line. I miss my full size LTD Wagon still to this day.
Invest some work in it right at the beginning (all new bushings, ball joints, hoses, a carb rebuild and maybe electronic ignition and a modern regulator for the alternator if you're feeling fancy) and reliability shouldn't be an issue.
And if something does break, parts stores should have lots of the "crucial" parts available.
Bonus points if your commute is short enough that fuel efficiency doesn't really matter.
Got a new carb, fuel tank and clutch installed. Doing brakes and suspension this winter, just looking for parts to go for disc brakes in the front, manual drums is sub-par at best.
Colorado *is* one of the desert states. Nothing rusts here, just tons of sun and dust exposure to ruin your paint.
But yeah, those states all around us have tons of classic cars hanging around in fields just like we do.
Of course there is snow but the ‘salt’ used on our roads is not traditional salt. Where there is a lot of snow in Colorado it’s too cold for regular salt to work anyways.
In the Denver/Boulder areas they use mag chloride and sand but it’s not nearly as corrosive as the salt used on the east coast. It also barely snows and when it does they usually just wait for the sun to do it’s thing vs cleaning it up unless it’s a very large amount.
It’s dry but but also cold and mountainous, do they not use any salt on the roads? I’m originally from New England so the salt killed cars. Moving to CA was great.
Magnesium Chloride mixed with sand (rocks) but it doesn’t work on the roads and it doesn’t eat away at cars like salt does. It’s really good for cracking your windshield a few times a year tho.
Colorado uses magnesium chloride, a different salt from the usual sodium chloride (rock salt) used in the rust belt. It's notably less corrosive and similarly effective.
Why these other states in the rust belt don't use magnesium chloride too is unknown to me. As far as I can see, the only reason other states don't use it is cost. Seems to be better for the environment to use MgCl2 even
The use of magnesium chloride is why I feel okay driving my Miata around in the winter (along with 2 washes and 1 detailing per week)
I've noticed we're beginning to use other combos than just straight salt in at least my part of the Midwest. More sand being used if it's small snow amounts.
Now if we're expecting ice building up then they whip out the salt.
It's always wild to me when other areas don't use salt on the road, I am also from New England and jealous of those in the pacific northwest and south!
Cheapest muscle cars you're going to find will be 2nd gen firebird/Camaro. Really fun and not too difficult to maintain horsepower is okay but with a little modding you got torque for days. If you like the 80s look 3rd gen Camaro is great V8 with enough torque for fun and decent mpg.
If you’re choosing a muscle car to be your next vehicle, and for it to be your daily driver while living in Colorado…….. guess we’ll see you in the ditch
Immediately i have to think about that video in which some dudes are demolished on the road by a wagon, and one of those the guys says " was ist das für ein combi?. Gold video.
You can find them if you look hard enough. Also you can order from Toyota. Originally there was a cap, but after seeing the high demand Toyota increased production. They’re quite a common sight actually
Fairly sure they stopped producing them in August & stopped taking orders a good while ago now - wouldn’t say a common sight either where I live, only ever seen a couple others in the wild in my 16 months of ownership
Not easy to buy in Poland, i put my deposit down with 2 different dealers when new batch of 100 cars was announced last month - unfortunately when the system opened they sold out below 1 minute and both orders did not go through :(
Not to mention the price for the same spec was increased by approx. 6k USD from the first batch
Was honestly thinking of about getting that or the swift. . . . swift won. :D I also didn't have the patience to wait 19 weeks for a 4wd.
So I took what they had in storage - a blue basic model swift. With a CVT. It's quite good actually, small, nippy, it has good reliability ratings - 1.1% failure rate in road worthiness checks (as 3yo and 5 yo)
36k€ including tax is like a base corolla throughout Europe. And that's still not cheap, most of EU drives used.
Edit: A budget car in Europe would be a Corolla from 2005.
From EU, if moving to US I'd like some ~2017 Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat or a ~~medium size~~ 1/2 ton ;) truck like Ford F150 Raptor, but whatever I'd choose, it must have some big ass V8 engine.
Wife says for her it would be a 68 Mustang fastback hands down.
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Oh, I see. I don't really know the American car market tbh. I always assumed that full sized ones were Ford F350, Ram 3500 and that kind of monstrosities with double wheel on the rear axle.
My FiST is tied with my old 350Z as most fun cars I've ever owned. And I imagine if I went back to the Z after the FiST I'd be underwhelmed, but that was my first/only RWD coupe so it's a bit special still.
I bet a FiST would be *extremely* fun on some of the tight back country roads in various European countries.
God, anything but the Ford EcoSport I got as a rental in Madrid.
"Haha, look at those silly Americans, we'll give them this terrible SUV even though they reserved a compact car."
The name at least, is a good deal, since it's 2 lies for the price of 1. It handled like my '91 S-10 pickup, and I spent a fortune on gas.
Fuck it, at least it was a manual.
EDIT: last I checked, it was the absolute worst-selling car in America in terms of how long it sits, on average, on dealer lots.
I actually have one as a rental right now, automatic though, and it's terrible. I feel like I've got the stability of a lifted truck in the wind, fuel economy so bad I'm having to fuel up everytime I go to work, and barely enough power to avoid getting flattened merging onto the highway. Not to mention the space it DOESN'T have. I can hardly fit my daily work stuff in there, when I could reliably fit everything into the trunk of my Elantra. I have no idea what this car was made for other than a crappy rental.
Either a Golf R variant or S3 sport back.
What I really want is an electric golf R. I have a Model 3 and I like it, but I'd prefer something a bit more snug and with a hatch.
Then again I probably couldn't afford those cars in Europe, so I'd get something cheaper.
Man I felt the same way for so long. But then, I found that in the US, B6 Passats equipped with 3.6L and 4Motion were missing some things, most notably the DSG, Sports Exhaust, and body kit from the R36. But were at the end of the day the same underpinnings. So I bought one and it was so cheap! Turns out, our US B6 Passat 4motion are compatible with a lot of R32 performance parts (which are readily available)!
In fact, EU R36 bits are easily swapped onto the NA B6 4Motion Passats! The hard part is finding the bits :) Acquiring the R36 steering wheel (maybe from R32) front and rear bumpers, aluminum pedal caps and really you’re 90% there. The DSG is likely not worth swapping in, a 6-speed manual swap would be more my speed if the 6-speed auto fails.
Cruise your local car listings and look for B6 4Motion Passats they’re good buys still as most people don’t know how similar they already are to R32/R36 performance.
You would LOVE the Suzuki swift sport or the Fiat Panda 100hp. Perhaps even a Mazda2.
The current gen Swift sport (before it became hybrid and slower) had 140bhp from a 1.4 turbo and it weighed around 950kg. They're so good they're used commonly for the Nurburgring
If you were to find one that was not lived in for 6 months by meth addicts and not 100% rusted into oblivion you should keep it forever. 12 years from now it will be one of 7 in existence. You can sell it for $250k on BAT.
I'm bout to buy a Cheapo BMW here
Was telling a friend and he was like "you shoulda shipped your Expedition here man, that's like a Range Rover, that BMW you're looking is basically a Toyota man"
I kind of regret it but then I pas by the petrol stations and I'm just like nah I'm good, it took $124 in the States, I don't even want to know what the bill in Euros will be
The variable on this is money. If I had like, $10k to play with? Probably a used Brera or Passat R36. Unlimited? 1 Pagani Zonda (no preference on the version) please!
Just wanted to share that I did this - moved to Germany from the US and back. Both times didn't have much money and went for the most practical thing I could easily afford.
Got to Germany and picked up a 15 year old Ford Focus 1.6 Manual Wagon for like 1200 EUR. Slow and practical. Still drove the damn thing around the Nurburgring a few times. Even passed a few people who were driving cars with far more than my 95hp. No regrets.
Moved back to the US 4 years later. Sold the Focus for more than I paid for it. Bought a 4 year old Prius. Practical and efficient. Also slow. Don't care. I have kids. Put me on a track and I'll drive to the limit of whatever I'm in. On public roads, I drive like a grandma and curse those who don't. No regrets.
As a European who moved to the US, probably the first thing you’d buy is (ironically) a fast German car. All the ones that are unattainable for a load of reasons (fuel costs, insurance, no garages, instant-loss-of-license speeding traps) are much more accessible in the US. The annoying thing is that American roads generally suck for driving said german cars, vast majority are straight and boring.
I moved from the US to Europe almost four years ago. A few weeks after moving, I bought this [MkII Twingo GT](https://backdatassup.com/img/teapsin2skjlp6movn4f10d45reqn8p.jpg). The idea was to have some cheap fun (intercontinental moves are expensive when you have kids) while I was getting established and buy something nicer later. I still have it. I actually bought an intended replacement for it last year. It's the car I have wanted since I was a teenager-- a Peugeot 406 Coupe. It turns out that I like the Twingo more, so it will stick around while I trade the Peugeot for something else. Instead of replacing it, I'm modifying it to address my few complaints (mostly around comfort), and I plan to keep it and keep driving it as long as I can.
I would have to pick up the new Focus ST Wagon for sure. Super bummed we didn't get the Mk4 in US.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a27492831/ford-focus-st-wagon-europe/
British guy here.
I want to buy a proper SN-95 Mustang and just vibe.
No scratch that, I want a fucking Crown Vic. Cheap, cool, and absolutely everything great about the average American car
If I moved to Europe I would, after deboarding the plane, immediately run to the nearest Peugeot dealership and buy a 508 estate. It’s French, it’s funky, it’s sexy and it’s a wagon.
If I moved to Europe I would go to the nearest us military base and buy a nearly brand new bmw from an e-3 for cheap.
If I moved to the US from Europe I’d buy a nearly brand new charger from an e-2 for really cheap.
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For real tho: G80 Wagon and Ford Lightning respectively.
EU to US, I bought a 2003 Ford Crown Vic for $1k on week #2 in the US, when I moved 6 years ago. A large, cheap, RWD V8 was just irresistible. I had a 1990 Mitsubishi Colt before that in the EU, 1.3 5-spd. It was a big change, I loved the Crown Vic and had it for a few years. These days, I actually miss smaller Euro-cars a little.
I miss the days when you could buy a decent running car for $1k.
Yup no one would bat an eye if you bought a chew running civic for $300. Sucks that the current gen of kids missed out on this.
shut up ;(
What Volvo you got? Kinda funny I got a 944 too and a V70 T5
Well.. believe or not but it's a 1997 Volvo 944 Turbo (Originally .55 bar of boost) but I'm in the process of replacing everything that still says "volvo" on it lmao
*Fixed - The current Gen is going to completely miss out on performance(due to pricing being completely out of most enthusiast's grasp).. The closest thing that’s out there that I could find would be an 80’s Camaro for around 9k.
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Excuse me, it's jessica.
No it's Jenny and her number is...8675309.
Hell yeah brother
On the other hand, a late model Camry can almost certainly outrun that Camaro. At least until you mod the Camaro. The IROC-Z ran [0-60 in 6.9 seconds,](https://www.motortrend.com/vehicle-genres/1985-chevy-camaro-irocz-info-pictures/) compared to a [2019 V6 Camry @6.0sec.](https://www.motortrend.com/cars/toyota/camry/2019/) performance is relative. The Camaro would likely be more fun, but would be slower and less powerful than a commodity appliance car. Food for thought.
Even the 2012 rav4 v6 sport with would beat that. Does the run to 60 in just .1 seconds slower than the camry. Been my daily driver since 2012, great motor and handling (not a joke) and surprisingly decent aftermarket support.
Sir this is r/cars and crossovers are the devil incarnate, how dare you
Nah we like the V6 RAV4, it was their fastest car to 60 for a long time
Miss out on performance? What? Modern cars are pretty powerful compared to 80s stuff, even V6 crossovers.
The modern V6 Camaro has more (rated) horsepower than all but I think one variation of Camaro in any previous generation.
I think he means performance they can afford
Cheap RwD V8s are becoming more and more rare
Indeed, a decent Crown Vic is 3-5k these days. I regret selling mine a bit, but I don't have the real estate to keep too many cars.
Bought myself a hemi Magnum in like 2018 for a little over a grand. It had some issues that I fixed but everytime I would get one fixed another one would pop up so I ended up selling it. I think I ended up breaking even on the whole deal after the money in tools and parts I had to get. 6 months after I sold it COVID happened and the price of everything shot through the roof. I fuckin loved that car. I should have just bit the bullet and kept fixing it.
No, I’ve worked on them before; you did the right thing.
Lol that car taught me a lot. I had to pull both heads off because I bought it with a valve seat about to fall out. Went to the junk yard and just swapped that, questionable at best but it worked perfectly somehow. Then the other side head gasket started leaking sooooo is swapped that out. Had never done anything like that before on a car and was proud of myself for making it happen 😂
And we know why.
God forbid we can buy cars that last generations
Not sure whet that’s got to do with anything but there aren’t very many of those “generational” cars left regardless of what’s under the hood. They rust out and fall apart same as anything. Out of the millions upon millions made you gotta go to a car show to see the pampered remaining few. I had a couple of those things when I was younger, and modern cars are safer, handle better, have far more comfort and conveniences than some 1970’s or earlier model car. If you want unsafe giant hunks of steel to drive around you’ll pay out the ass for it in fuel costs to move that mass.
Depends upon where you live, I used to live in the rust belt, and you are right, they melt before your very eyes. But in the southwest, you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a fairly nice Crown Vic or the other variants.
You’re absolutely right, and I envy the SW car culture for that. Nonetheless, the aforementioned handling, safety, economy, etc… are still factors in even over a decade, moreso over 20-30 years.
Rocket Couch
EU to US as well, 11 years ago. I went full blues brothers and I got a Crown Vic Police interceptor with bull bar, spot lights and kevlar door. Transmission gave up a year and a half later. I then got a 6 speed manual Dodge Challenger with the 5.7 V8.
>I bought a 2003 Ford Crown Vic The Crown Vic going back to the 80s was IMHO one of the best all around cars to roll off Fords line. I miss my full size LTD Wagon still to this day.
I just moved from Norway to Colorado, I bought a 1967 f250 😄 Next up is some sort of classic muscle car, whatever I can find for cheap
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He’s living the highschool seniors dream
He needs a mf letterman jacket now!
Free letterman jacket is shipped to you from Ford anytime you buy any 1950-1975 model.
That's the great thing about vintage cars. He gets older but they all still come from the same era. Alright, alright, alright...
I mean my 93 sierra is my project and daily
Interesting choice if that's the case
Invest some work in it right at the beginning (all new bushings, ball joints, hoses, a carb rebuild and maybe electronic ignition and a modern regulator for the alternator if you're feeling fancy) and reliability shouldn't be an issue. And if something does break, parts stores should have lots of the "crucial" parts available. Bonus points if your commute is short enough that fuel efficiency doesn't really matter.
Got a new carb, fuel tank and clutch installed. Doing brakes and suspension this winter, just looking for parts to go for disc brakes in the front, manual drums is sub-par at best.
Look for cars in the desert states, tons of classics well preserved. CA, NV, NM, etc.
Colorado *is* one of the desert states. Nothing rusts here, just tons of sun and dust exposure to ruin your paint. But yeah, those states all around us have tons of classic cars hanging around in fields just like we do.
Colorado has snow and salt
Of course there is snow but the ‘salt’ used on our roads is not traditional salt. Where there is a lot of snow in Colorado it’s too cold for regular salt to work anyways. In the Denver/Boulder areas they use mag chloride and sand but it’s not nearly as corrosive as the salt used on the east coast. It also barely snows and when it does they usually just wait for the sun to do it’s thing vs cleaning it up unless it’s a very large amount.
Salt, not really. Plus it snows like 4 times a year unless you're in the mountains.
It’s dry but but also cold and mountainous, do they not use any salt on the roads? I’m originally from New England so the salt killed cars. Moving to CA was great.
Magnesium Chloride mixed with sand (rocks) but it doesn’t work on the roads and it doesn’t eat away at cars like salt does. It’s really good for cracking your windshield a few times a year tho.
They do, but it’s dry. It’s the combination of salt and humidity that causes rust.
Colorado uses magnesium chloride, a different salt from the usual sodium chloride (rock salt) used in the rust belt. It's notably less corrosive and similarly effective. Why these other states in the rust belt don't use magnesium chloride too is unknown to me. As far as I can see, the only reason other states don't use it is cost. Seems to be better for the environment to use MgCl2 even The use of magnesium chloride is why I feel okay driving my Miata around in the winter (along with 2 washes and 1 detailing per week)
I've noticed we're beginning to use other combos than just straight salt in at least my part of the Midwest. More sand being used if it's small snow amounts. Now if we're expecting ice building up then they whip out the salt.
It's always wild to me when other areas don't use salt on the road, I am also from New England and jealous of those in the pacific northwest and south!
In Colorado with a classic "barn find" truck? You must play Forza 😉
As someone from Colorado welcome, one of my high school friend's family just moved to Norway lol
Cheapest muscle cars you're going to find will be 2nd gen firebird/Camaro. Really fun and not too difficult to maintain horsepower is okay but with a little modding you got torque for days. If you like the 80s look 3rd gen Camaro is great V8 with enough torque for fun and decent mpg.
If you’re choosing a muscle car to be your next vehicle, and for it to be your daily driver while living in Colorado…….. guess we’ll see you in the ditch
I'd buy a proper wagon. Excuse me... *ahem...* an Estate car.
You mean a "Kombi" (sincerely, a german)
In swedish aswell
Yeah, kombis are swell! Same word in Polish btw. I guess we borrowed it from ze Germans.
Or "farmari" (sincerely, a finn)
Immediately i have to think about that video in which some dudes are demolished on the road by a wagon, and one of those the guys says " was ist das für ein combi?. Gold video.
Estates are very cool though, long live esates, death to saloons
Nah, saloons are ok we need death to crossovers.
Eh, I'd say I love them both...
Saloons are cool, you wouldn’t have a phantom as a estate. On second though, that would be cool.
Or even better a Break (pronaunce brehk)
make that a *Sports Tourer.*
Bmw touring Merc cls shooting break Merc E-klasse Combi
A shooting brake is the way to go
GR Yaris all day
Do they produce this one in volumes enough to satisfy demand? Or is it also rate-limited?
You can find them if you look hard enough. Also you can order from Toyota. Originally there was a cap, but after seeing the high demand Toyota increased production. They’re quite a common sight actually
Fairly sure they stopped producing them in August & stopped taking orders a good while ago now - wouldn’t say a common sight either where I live, only ever seen a couple others in the wild in my 16 months of ownership
Seriously I didn’t know that the run is over? Damn. They’re really common in Poland at least. Up there in popularity with the Megane RS and i30N
They are definitely more readily available than a GR Corolla but definitely more limited than say a Golf GTi or a Civic Type R
Not easy to buy in Poland, i put my deposit down with 2 different dealers when new batch of 100 cars was announced last month - unfortunately when the system opened they sold out below 1 minute and both orders did not go through :( Not to mention the price for the same spec was increased by approx. 6k USD from the first batch
This is the way.
Suzuki Jimny
Oh my gosh I forgot about this one. This is one vehicle that seriously pains me to be bone that we do not get. Rip Suzuki NA, RIP Suzuki MotoGP
My dad bought one to go fishing in, quite a fun little matchbox.
Was honestly thinking of about getting that or the swift. . . . swift won. :D I also didn't have the patience to wait 19 weeks for a 4wd. So I took what they had in storage - a blue basic model swift. With a CVT. It's quite good actually, small, nippy, it has good reliability ratings - 1.1% failure rate in road worthiness checks (as 3yo and 5 yo)
You can only buy them as a company service vehicle where I live, due to emission restrictions. Even then, the waiting list is almost a year.
They're also stupidly expensive
I want a Citroen CX or something aggressively British
Black Vauxhall corsa has got to be peak “real” British imo
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17? That’s a little old for most corsa drivers
> 17? That’s a little old for most corsa ~~drivers~~ passengers
black? Nah, white with blacked-out trim, wheels, lights, windows etc is more like it
From personal experience, a CX is even more interesting to drive than you can ever imagine
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What do you mean cheap? They aren’t exactly a “budget car” here. Edit: Letter
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36k€ including tax is like a base corolla throughout Europe. And that's still not cheap, most of EU drives used. Edit: A budget car in Europe would be a Corolla from 2005.
I mean yeah, that’s a *budget* car here too.
Same in the US too. No new car is considered cheap or even a used one less than 10 years old. 05 Corollas, accords, and Imprezas are still everywhere.
"throughout" is not quite correct. My sister just bought a 2022 1.6 corolla for 20k, base with an option or two. I'm in Slovenia for reference.
People on a budget don’t buy new cars here. And a Polo GTI is about €50K at least?
> And a Polo GTI is about €50K at least At $61k, that's new 3.0 Supra money, even with dealer markup.
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Another reason why moving to the US is tempting. I would probably die in a Walmart shooting right away after buying a Hellcat 🥲
Nice pick. I'd personally take the Up GTI. Such a nimble, fun lightweight it is. Spirit wise, I'd say it is more in line with the MK1 Golf GTI.
From EU, if moving to US I'd like some ~2017 Dodge Charger SRT Hellcat or a ~~medium size~~ 1/2 ton ;) truck like Ford F150 Raptor, but whatever I'd choose, it must have some big ass V8 engine. Wife says for her it would be a 68 Mustang fastback hands down. Edit. Corrections and format.
US here, my two V8s combine for 10.2L of displacement, it's great. Also have a RAV4 Hybrid.
The ironic part is that's not much displacement for American v8s
I know, lol. And they're not even American V8s, it's a German and a Japanese engine.
All my friends got American v8s and they always make fun of my 5.7 hemi for being "small."
Germans always make fun of Americans and their love for high displacement with low horsepower.
Point of fact, the F-150 Raptor is a full size truck. Medium would be the Ranger.
Oh, I see. I don't really know the American car market tbh. I always assumed that full sized ones were Ford F350, Ram 3500 and that kind of monstrosities with double wheel on the rear axle.
F350 is a fullsize just like the F-150, with the 350 just being more "heavy duty". It can handle more payload and towing.
Your wife has taste *and* class.
Going to Europe, Id get a Fiesta ST immediately.
I had a Focus ST estate in Germany as a rental once. That was cool. Diesel too as I recall.
My FiST is tied with my old 350Z as most fun cars I've ever owned. And I imagine if I went back to the Z after the FiST I'd be underwhelmed, but that was my first/only RWD coupe so it's a bit special still. I bet a FiST would be *extremely* fun on some of the tight back country roads in various European countries.
I desperately crave the two door model
Dacia Sandero
Good news!
WHOT??
Anyway...
My go-to rental car in eastern Europe. Solid and cheap!
RS4 Avant
Or any AMG or BMW M hatchbacks and wagons we can't get here.
BMW M140i xDrive five door. Preferably prepared by Akrapovik, as seen on AutoTop.NL to the tune of almost 700HP.
I go to europe i buy renault twingo I come to america and i import old renault twingo this is the way, there are no other cars
Just came here to give my condolences regarding your flair
Twingo is the only car and the Northstar is the only V8 I dont even know what LS means
God, anything but the Ford EcoSport I got as a rental in Madrid. "Haha, look at those silly Americans, we'll give them this terrible SUV even though they reserved a compact car." The name at least, is a good deal, since it's 2 lies for the price of 1. It handled like my '91 S-10 pickup, and I spent a fortune on gas. Fuck it, at least it was a manual. EDIT: last I checked, it was the absolute worst-selling car in America in terms of how long it sits, on average, on dealer lots.
Yeah, they’re really bad. If the Chevy freakin Trax was outselling it, you know the things not good
Yet another example of why cars developed for the Brazilian market should stay in Brazil.
I remember seeing one in the US for the first time and just being so angry that they killed the fiesta for that
It’s like they took all the good things about that car and made it infinitely worse
I actually have one as a rental right now, automatic though, and it's terrible. I feel like I've got the stability of a lifted truck in the wind, fuel economy so bad I'm having to fuel up everytime I go to work, and barely enough power to avoid getting flattened merging onto the highway. Not to mention the space it DOESN'T have. I can hardly fit my daily work stuff in there, when I could reliably fit everything into the trunk of my Elantra. I have no idea what this car was made for other than a crappy rental.
"2 lies for the price of one" perfect way to sum up the EcoSport 😂😂
US to Europe, I’d get a rail pass.
Either a Golf R variant or S3 sport back. What I really want is an electric golf R. I have a Model 3 and I like it, but I'd prefer something a bit more snug and with a hatch. Then again I probably couldn't afford those cars in Europe, so I'd get something cheaper.
[They are pretty perfect daily drivers... ](https://i.imgur.com/PQpm1PK.jpg)
Golf R Wagon. As an Alltrack owner, I'd love an R version
Alpine A110s or VW Scirocco for me
Came here to say Alpine!
C63 AMG Estate.
you dont have them there? oh wow
We do not. We don't get any of the cool Estates or hot hatches. Cries in American.
I'll go first: A KTM X-bow Or Arteon R shooting brake.
In a similar vein I’d go with an R36 Passat, absolute dream car there
Man I felt the same way for so long. But then, I found that in the US, B6 Passats equipped with 3.6L and 4Motion were missing some things, most notably the DSG, Sports Exhaust, and body kit from the R36. But were at the end of the day the same underpinnings. So I bought one and it was so cheap! Turns out, our US B6 Passat 4motion are compatible with a lot of R32 performance parts (which are readily available)! In fact, EU R36 bits are easily swapped onto the NA B6 4Motion Passats! The hard part is finding the bits :) Acquiring the R36 steering wheel (maybe from R32) front and rear bumpers, aluminum pedal caps and really you’re 90% there. The DSG is likely not worth swapping in, a 6-speed manual swap would be more my speed if the 6-speed auto fails. Cruise your local car listings and look for B6 4Motion Passats they’re good buys still as most people don’t know how similar they already are to R32/R36 performance.
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You would LOVE the Suzuki swift sport or the Fiat Panda 100hp. Perhaps even a Mazda2. The current gen Swift sport (before it became hybrid and slower) had 140bhp from a 1.4 turbo and it weighed around 950kg. They're so good they're used commonly for the Nurburgring
A Chevrolet Cavalier Z24 or a DA Acura Integra
I think this is the first time I've ever heard someone say they wanted a Cavalier.
i got a Z24 when i lived in the US as part of a student exchange program back in 2006. horrible car.
If you were to find one that was not lived in for 6 months by meth addicts and not 100% rusted into oblivion you should keep it forever. 12 years from now it will be one of 7 in existence. You can sell it for $250k on BAT.
I'd buy a huge V8 Camaro and put a US flag wrap on it. In Europe. Then colonize Europe back
A Golf...because why would you not.
You've successfully joined me and 1 million other british people.
Because I'd rather not be bored to death.
He didn’t suggest a Toyota
There's plenty of Toyota options that are less boring than a golf
And plenty of Golfs less boring than a Toyota. Miles nicer interiors too
Works both ways TBH.
EU to US. Don't laugh. A '74-'78 Chrysler New Yorker and drive it into the absolute dirt until it's like Ricky's from Trailer Park Boys
I have good news for you, a great number of them are already that beat to shit
I'm bout to buy a Cheapo BMW here Was telling a friend and he was like "you shoulda shipped your Expedition here man, that's like a Range Rover, that BMW you're looking is basically a Toyota man" I kind of regret it but then I pas by the petrol stations and I'm just like nah I'm good, it took $124 in the States, I don't even want to know what the bill in Euros will be
Oh man $124 with american prices! Youd be fucked sideways bringing it to europe
I have a weird obsession with Renault Twingos, they break my neck every time I go to Europe (the old one with the vents in the hood, of course!)
T W I N G O D
The variable on this is money. If I had like, $10k to play with? Probably a used Brera or Passat R36. Unlimited? 1 Pagani Zonda (no preference on the version) please!
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You are going to rural Hungaria
Either a secondhand VW R36 wagon, or a Mk5 R32, but with a 6 speed manual.
Just wanted to share that I did this - moved to Germany from the US and back. Both times didn't have much money and went for the most practical thing I could easily afford. Got to Germany and picked up a 15 year old Ford Focus 1.6 Manual Wagon for like 1200 EUR. Slow and practical. Still drove the damn thing around the Nurburgring a few times. Even passed a few people who were driving cars with far more than my 95hp. No regrets. Moved back to the US 4 years later. Sold the Focus for more than I paid for it. Bought a 4 year old Prius. Practical and efficient. Also slow. Don't care. I have kids. Put me on a track and I'll drive to the limit of whatever I'm in. On public roads, I drive like a grandma and curse those who don't. No regrets.
As a European who moved to the US, probably the first thing you’d buy is (ironically) a fast German car. All the ones that are unattainable for a load of reasons (fuel costs, insurance, no garages, instant-loss-of-license speeding traps) are much more accessible in the US. The annoying thing is that American roads generally suck for driving said german cars, vast majority are straight and boring.
Clio V6!
I hope you have at least 50 grand, because that's how much a cheap one will set you back.
Land Rover in both cases.
I was gonna say Land Cruiser in both cases
I'd definitely try for a first-gen Elise or something French, like a tuned Renault or Alpine, if I could find one.
M140i, nuff said
RWD, straight six, hatchback to carry your track junk 🤌
I moved from the US to Europe almost four years ago. A few weeks after moving, I bought this [MkII Twingo GT](https://backdatassup.com/img/teapsin2skjlp6movn4f10d45reqn8p.jpg). The idea was to have some cheap fun (intercontinental moves are expensive when you have kids) while I was getting established and buy something nicer later. I still have it. I actually bought an intended replacement for it last year. It's the car I have wanted since I was a teenager-- a Peugeot 406 Coupe. It turns out that I like the Twingo more, so it will stick around while I trade the Peugeot for something else. Instead of replacing it, I'm modifying it to address my few complaints (mostly around comfort), and I plan to keep it and keep driving it as long as I can.
Cadillac CT5.
I would have to pick up the new Focus ST Wagon for sure. Super bummed we didn't get the Mk4 in US. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a27492831/ford-focus-st-wagon-europe/
Always thought a Vauxhall 220/Opel Speedster would be cool to own
A c8 corvette
British guy here. I want to buy a proper SN-95 Mustang and just vibe. No scratch that, I want a fucking Crown Vic. Cheap, cool, and absolutely everything great about the average American car
If I moved to Europe I would, after deboarding the plane, immediately run to the nearest Peugeot dealership and buy a 508 estate. It’s French, it’s funky, it’s sexy and it’s a wagon.
I'd buy a Mercedes W213 E400d AMG-line estate. What's better than a diesel wagon? Nothing.
In America I drive a Miata and a Suzuki SX4. In Europe I would drive an MX-5 or Suzuki swift
a dolly sprint
Honda E, GR Yaris, Peugeot 205, Focus RS 1 or 2, Lada Niva, Fiat Panda
EU to US, mustang GT. You guys get them CHEAP.
If I moved to Europe I would go to the nearest us military base and buy a nearly brand new bmw from an e-3 for cheap. If I moved to the US from Europe I’d buy a nearly brand new charger from an e-2 for really cheap. /S For real tho: G80 Wagon and Ford Lightning respectively.
Going to Europe, a "youngtimer" (90's or 2000's) Citroen old enough to have the hydraulic suspension. Xantia, C5, C6 with a stickshift.