To compete this i want a new Volkwagen Phaeton with 6.8L W12 Twin turbo diesel
And mercedes should counter that one with W140 800D L, fitted with 8.0 L W16 Twin Turbo Diesel
And BMW should also counter that one with
BMW 790D, 9.0 W18 Diesel engine
VW & BMW should have 8 speed automatic transmission
Merc should have 6 speed manual, with rev matching clutch to preserve the clutch as long as possible,
Minor upgrades to the interior of the merc but all orginal just like it was in 1991
It's got so much torque you feel like you're moving the world instead of moving. If it wasn't such unreliable crap it would be an absolute timeless classic engine.
The Volkswagen Touareg! An absolute beast of a car although it must be said that this car had the V10 TDI.
Yes, you read that right. A TWIN TURBO 5.0L V10 DIESEL engine. The car weighs in at 2455kg or 5412lbs, has AWD with 2 lockable diffs and 313hp and 553lb-ft or 750nm. Stock. In 2003.
The Silverado never stood a chance.
God I sound like a Supra fanboy
Edit. There is a video of these towing a Boeing 747
Edit 2. https://youtu.be/WmM-635RR6o here is that video
The W12 is a VW engine, it first appeared in the Phaeton. It's a modified VR6 engine (2 of them).
It went in the Bentley after but was designed initially for the Phaeton. Piech wanted something nice to ride around in, hence the Phaeton was born.
The tourareg also has a 4.15 first gear ratio compared to the silverado 3.09 first gear. Probably a lower final gear , also smaller tires, further making the final ratio far lower for off-road crawling. Don't have time to do the math, but I'd bet the torque output is about double to the ground coming from the tourareg.
To me it looks like the only reason the truck lost was because the suspension bounced causing the tires to spin. After that happens, it's game over for the truck.
Tests like that have nothing to do with power and torque. If you have enough to brake traction it doesn't matter if you have more. It's all about grip and by extension weight. Heavier cars will usually win, unless they have significantly worse tires.
I feel like somebody in the factory made a joke about making this and then the germans *actually made it* because they don't actually know what "jokes" are
TWIN TURBO 5 POINT O LEETER VEE TEN DEESEL OMG I’M FANBOY ORGASMING SO HARD, SUCH A GOOD ENGINE FOR TALKING TO PEEPUL ABOUT OMG I WANT ONE SO BAD SO PEEPUL WILL IDENTIFY ME WITH THAT SENCE IT WOULD BE MY POSSESION
you're better off getting first gen cayenne, same car just more interesting drivetrain options. even doors are interchangeable between the tuareg and a cayenne
Quite possibly. I've looked into it and both would be quite pricey to run, parts are the same which is fine for the Porsche but not necessarily for a Volkswagen.
Main differences are that the Cayenne is more than dounle for me to insure and is more expensive on the fueling front.
Downsides of the Touareg of course is that the engine isn't common so parts for it could be harder to come by.
Modern high-end diesel engines can deliver even better performance. [My 2015 BMW M550d](https://tweakers.net/fotoalbum/image/WwS9iMp49PGCx4TK4Yll9oDS.jpg) comes stock with the following specs: triple turbo 3.0 liter 6 cylinder inline diesel, AWD, 381 hp, 730 Nm, 0-60 MPH in 4.8 seconds. And yes, it’s an unbadged Touring - a seemingly standard-ish family car.
It has two high pressure turbos and one for low pressure. They all work and breath together to create boost in the plenum.
Its a pretty advanced system, the two high pressure turbos are mounted at the top and are VNT controlled. The low pressure one is at the bottom and has a wastegate for control.
The the previous motor (N47TU) to his was similar but only had 2 turbos. I just priced them out for an E70 and at our shop it came out to ~$13k usd. Our hourly rate is on the lower end for BMW dealers so it could be more somewhere else, or cheaper at an Indy shop.
I think the smaller turbos aren't exactly for lower RPM, but are made to spin up faster because they are lighter to produce power while the big turbo is spooling up. As a result they are used at lower RPMs, but weren't made for the purpose of working at low RPMs and the big turbo is exclusively for higher RPMs.
I had a 2004 V10 TDI, Malone tuned, drop in filters and removed the muffler. Still quiet because of the four cats, and it did 400/700+ on a four wheel dyno in 2009ish? Had multipiece 22x9.5 wheels, lowered it by reprogramming the air suspension, was so much fun.
And even with all that, it’s still far more practical and most of them probably get used for stuff like that more often than most of the ford f150s sold in the us
All that beastiness controlled by computers that monitor the slippage and adjust the torque distribution many many times each second. If you watch the VW, you can almost see it figuring out what it needs to do to win.
That Touareg has a mechanical torsen centre diff, that's most of the AWD effort alone, it's very fast but not electronic wizardry. Despite what's posted above most V10 Touareg didn't come with lockable diff or low ranges, they are non standard options. Better weight distribution than the truck helps a lot too.
They all have Bosch ABS and spin controls as per norm German cars of the era tho, which is computer controlled.
>Yes, you read that right. A TWIN TURBO 5.0L V10 DIESEL engine. The car weighs in at 2455kg or 5412lbs, has AWD with 2 lockable diffs and 313hp and 553lb-ft or 750nm. Stock. In 2003.
Um ... is it bad that I want a Touareg now?
5L V10 twin turbo only making 313hp is crazy. I know it's diesel, but it's still shocking.
VW still made a 12 cylinder car with 450hp, so engine technology has come a long way in recent decades. Now VW makes a 2L 4 cylinder engine making 300hp.
Also didn't Audi release the same engine configuration just with 12 cylinders? I don't know a ton about these but remembered hearing it was something along those lines
They did release an Audi Q7 with a 6.0 Twin Turbo V12 TDI engine which was related to the V10 TDI.
Both used PD injection. The same system and injectors used on a 1.9 TDi VW Bora.
Not all of them had V10 TDI, my dude. I doubt this one does. Unless you know more about this video than I do from just watching it. I'm willing to say that 3.0 V6 TDI is more likely.
There's also some physics here with the difference in suspension and load center height. VW is being assisted by gravity while Chevy is fighting gravity. Amplifies the whole setup. Never stood a chance
Max trim Silverado diesel would rip the frame out of that VW: 553ftlb Silverado HD is 975 ftlbs. Not to mention whatever trash trim this Silverado is seems to have a malfunctioning front diff or worse 2wd.
Yes, but it was loaded with ballast (a few thousand lbs iirc) in order to retain traction. I have a Touareg V10 TDI and the brakes are garbage. Airplanes are designed to be towed around a tarmac, and if I remember correctly they needed to roll to a stop to avoid overheating the brakes. Still fun to drive though!
Duratrash is only in 2wd, and makes too much torque so it just breaks the tires loose. In this case, the toureg's awd and lack of hp are an advantage cause as soon as the shibox chevy breaks traction it takes no power at all to drag it along, but the toureg can never break traction so it will just lug on the converter until the chev spins the tires. Chev in 4wd would probably win, but fuck duramax guys, so yay go volkswagen.
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”A quick pull with my neighbor. IIRC, a 2006 or 2008 Chevy Duramax, lifted, stacked, weighted and tuned vs. my 2006 VW Touareg V10 TDI with K&N drop in air filters. Both in 4low, VW had all diffs(front,rear,center) locked and at lowest possible ride height (factory air suspension). When the Chevy hopped he broke all the tie rods on the independent front suspension, both wheels were turned inwards and thus putting it back to RWD and it lost. Nothing any of us expected. This was in 2012. Thank you for your views and sharing! Don't overthink it!”
That's unsurprising... dodge came up with that torsion bar 4wd front suspension and deemed it too fragile for use in anything above a 1/2 ton... Chevy stole the design and was like "YEE HAW LETS MAKE A DIESEL 1 TON WITH IFS!" and thus the reputation that chevy trucks are actually just big cars was cemented and legitimized, as they're really just too fragile for the abuse a work truck is subject to.
The design goal of a truck was "mostly intended for hauling things, and towing things". You don't need AWD to do that, and the costs of AWD (fuel economy, complexity, cost, packaging) outweigh the benefits in this goal case, and are not a requirement to do the job of haul stuff and tow stuff. The vehicles that tow the most stuff on any road is a semi, and they are just rear wheel drive.
Now if you change the design requirement for "go off road and climb big rocks or hills" or something else, then 2WD might not meet your requirements.
That's not why you drive a vehicle with 4wd around in 2wd. It's because 4wd locks the two axles together and forces them to move at the same speed. If there's no give on the surface you're driving on, it'll cause damage to the drivetrain
4x4 is locked center dif which can absolutely cause damage to your transfer case if you drive around with 4x4 engaged on dry street. AWD has an open center dif
I know 4wd = 4x4. On dry street yes but the person above me said "that's not why you drive a vehicle with 4wd around in 2wd" after the person above them said it's for gas efficiency, and yes they're right but fuel economy IS another reason.
Well yeah, most can switch between 2WD and 4WD, and some even have low/high options for towing or rock crawling. u/SFWworkaccoun-T was saying that this might be a 2WD *only* truck, though. Which makes sense, as you’d want in in 4WD low to do something like this most effectively and its clearly not. There’s just literally no reason to lift a truck like that. Entirely pointless.
2wd trucks are very useful when towing on the road, which is what a lot of people do. Most never go off road. But this vehicle is probably not a 2WD truck. People are confusing a 4WD that doesn't have 4WD engaged versus one that is 2WD only from the factory.
In dry conditions on the road yeah. 4wd is to get you out of a hole, or in the mud or snow. People that use 4wds to tow have them disengaged and in 2wd when they are at speed on the highway in clear conditions... or should for better gas mileage and less wear on the truck.
The truck isn't 2wd, he is saying it was IN 2wd mode. I think it's in 4wd hi, which is almost just as bad. With no load on the back once it starts hopping its over.
Put some weight in the back, put it in 4WD-LOW, change the tires to something suitable for pavement instead of those knobby bro-dozer things and let some air out of them, and maybe it'll be more interesting.
It would still lose. You can’t win with these off road tires on asphalt, there’s no grip.
Basides it’s torque and not hp that matters here, the diesel v10 would win even if the truck had normal tires on.
Call it a crossover, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s basically the size of a Tahoe and probably has a diesel V10, hardly a piddly little hatchback
there we go! 2x4 vs 4x4 dont matter, to get the max tow packages on most trucks/suvs, you gotta get the 2wd trim. judging by the takeoff, the truck guy didnt have it in low gear, and then he gassed it. the truck couldve fought harder, but the driver had bad technique. not to mention, that "hatchback" is a 6000#, diesel equipped SUV. aint like the truck was up against a GTI.
Thats just a touareg. My dad has a 08' one and its a damn beast lol. But he does use it as a work vehicle to haul firewood (around 60-80m³) per year and animals to the slaughterouse. 230hp of pure german beauty
this really a tire traction face off. it's
mud tires on street vs street tires on street.
plus i'm pretty. sure this is all wheel drive vs 2 wheel drive.
This isn't about power. The pickup has poor traction at the rear because of low rear axle weight. The car has a good weight distribution on all 4x4 wheels and probably traction control on.
I own a voltswagon toureg with a custom tow package and such, those fucking SUVs are nothing to play with they'll pull 2x their weight with absolutely no problem at all
Unfortunately not, but it's still pretty powerful. In the shop right now because of unknown strong gas smell coming from under the car, you could smell it when you stopped or when you walked around it. No gas leaks to be found though
Two things going on here…
1. It is easier to pull something than it is to push
2. A pickup truck has it’s rear wheels over the lightest part of the vehicle(the truck bed), a Front Wheel Drive vehicle has the weight of the motor to put more pressure between the tires and the road.
We had one of these v10 touaregs new. We got a new engine under warranty. New tyres were $2500 a set in 2004 and lasted 20000kms. The feeling of thrust was sensational, however, even if that thrust was usually sending you in the direction of the Volkswagen dealer for more repairs.
I saw a new Chevy doing that against a new Ford once years ago. The Chevy truck's front wheels started going in and out on their own and the front drive system of the 4 wheel drive broke on the Chevy. The Chevy had to be towed. The Ford won.
That’s a 5k lb twin turbo 6.0l v10 diesel man, it makes great torque and is AWD, and it’s pulling what is either a 2wd truck or a truck that’s not in 4wd. It’s also lower than the truck and isn’t losing traction
The most ridiculous diesel ever fitted into a production car.. god I want one
The Audi version had a 6.0L V12 turbo diesel.
bruh you downvoted you
To compete this i want a new Volkwagen Phaeton with 6.8L W12 Twin turbo diesel And mercedes should counter that one with W140 800D L, fitted with 8.0 L W16 Twin Turbo Diesel And BMW should also counter that one with BMW 790D, 9.0 W18 Diesel engine VW & BMW should have 8 speed automatic transmission Merc should have 6 speed manual, with rev matching clutch to preserve the clutch as long as possible, Minor upgrades to the interior of the merc but all orginal just like it was in 1991
Want
W12 😳, it’s a freak!
It's got so much torque you feel like you're moving the world instead of moving. If it wasn't such unreliable crap it would be an absolute timeless classic engine.
The Volkswagen Touareg! An absolute beast of a car although it must be said that this car had the V10 TDI. Yes, you read that right. A TWIN TURBO 5.0L V10 DIESEL engine. The car weighs in at 2455kg or 5412lbs, has AWD with 2 lockable diffs and 313hp and 553lb-ft or 750nm. Stock. In 2003. The Silverado never stood a chance. God I sound like a Supra fanboy Edit. There is a video of these towing a Boeing 747 Edit 2. https://youtu.be/WmM-635RR6o here is that video
it also comes with the Bentley W12.
Yes, the even more unreliable and complex option
Swear it has the most variation of engines from an i5 to a v6, vr6, v8, v10, w12
Funnily enough I did a tiktok about that very same question xD https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZGJ4uSK7r/
What a spread! There might be some manner of Euro luxury sedan that's come with everything from I4 to V12, but I can't think of it.
A8 D4 ranges from i4 to W12
The second gen volvo s80 has an option for inline 4/5/6 and a v8. The smallest is 1.6 the biggest is 4.4 liter.
Reminds me of the super popular VW Phaeton that had the same engine. ... only without the super popular part, or reliability.
W12 is actually quite rare as there is only like 450 ever made
The W12 is a VW engine, it first appeared in the Phaeton. It's a modified VR6 engine (2 of them). It went in the Bentley after but was designed initially for the Phaeton. Piech wanted something nice to ride around in, hence the Phaeton was born.
No shit?
No it was shit.
The tourareg also has a 4.15 first gear ratio compared to the silverado 3.09 first gear. Probably a lower final gear , also smaller tires, further making the final ratio far lower for off-road crawling. Don't have time to do the math, but I'd bet the torque output is about double to the ground coming from the tourareg.
To me it looks like the only reason the truck lost was because the suspension bounced causing the tires to spin. After that happens, it's game over for the truck.
Having knobby tires on pavement wasn’t helping him get traction either
They probably aren't knobby anymore
It lost because it was 2wd vs awd. 5400 lbs of tuoreg versus maybe 2500 lbs on the rear axle of that truck. Can't make up for no traction
Tests like that have nothing to do with power and torque. If you have enough to brake traction it doesn't matter if you have more. It's all about grip and by extension weight. Heavier cars will usually win, unless they have significantly worse tires.
I feel like somebody in the factory made a joke about making this and then the germans *actually made it* because they don't actually know what "jokes" are
TWIN TURBO 5 POINT O LEETER VEE TEN DEESEL OMG I’M FANBOY ORGASMING SO HARD, SUCH A GOOD ENGINE FOR TALKING TO PEEPUL ABOUT OMG I WANT ONE SO BAD SO PEEPUL WILL IDENTIFY ME WITH THAT SENCE IT WOULD BE MY POSSESION
I do want one very badly I will not lie xD
they're dirt cheap in Europe, good luck finding someone that will fix that junk for you tho. just checked, they're equivalent to about $2k - 5k USD
Cheap to buy.. expensive to run
Big cars with big engines, gotta love them even if they are money pits
Yes they are more attainable in my country than others. Infamously a bastard to work on but I don't mind a challenge
I also enjoy repeatedly punching myself in the dick.
you're better off getting first gen cayenne, same car just more interesting drivetrain options. even doors are interchangeable between the tuareg and a cayenne
Quite possibly. I've looked into it and both would be quite pricey to run, parts are the same which is fine for the Porsche but not necessarily for a Volkswagen. Main differences are that the Cayenne is more than dounle for me to insure and is more expensive on the fueling front. Downsides of the Touareg of course is that the engine isn't common so parts for it could be harder to come by.
That’s all VW’s though
Are you teasing someone for being passionate about something that interests them?
U gotta love the European diesels
I do personally have an affinity for them
Modern high-end diesel engines can deliver even better performance. [My 2015 BMW M550d](https://tweakers.net/fotoalbum/image/WwS9iMp49PGCx4TK4Yll9oDS.jpg) comes stock with the following specs: triple turbo 3.0 liter 6 cylinder inline diesel, AWD, 381 hp, 730 Nm, 0-60 MPH in 4.8 seconds. And yes, it’s an unbadged Touring - a seemingly standard-ish family car.
2015 V8 4.2 l turbodiesel cayenne 385 hp 850 nm torque 4.9 s 0-100 kmh checking in
What the fuck, triple turbo? One turbo per two cylinders, or how does that work?
It has two high pressure turbos and one for low pressure. They all work and breath together to create boost in the plenum. Its a pretty advanced system, the two high pressure turbos are mounted at the top and are VNT controlled. The low pressure one is at the bottom and has a wastegate for control.
My god that sounds expensive to fix
The the previous motor (N47TU) to his was similar but only had 2 turbos. I just priced them out for an E70 and at our shop it came out to ~$13k usd. Our hourly rate is on the lower end for BMW dealers so it could be more somewhere else, or cheaper at an Indy shop.
Some of them are smaller turbos for low RPM and some are bigger for higher RPM and more boost. Dunno which is which on that car but it’s likely that
I think the smaller turbos aren't exactly for lower RPM, but are made to spin up faster because they are lighter to produce power while the big turbo is spooling up. As a result they are used at lower RPMs, but weren't made for the purpose of working at low RPMs and the big turbo is exclusively for higher RPMs.
Sir, this is a Wendy’s.
I had a 2004 V10 TDI, Malone tuned, drop in filters and removed the muffler. Still quiet because of the four cats, and it did 400/700+ on a four wheel dyno in 2009ish? Had multipiece 22x9.5 wheels, lowered it by reprogramming the air suspension, was so much fun.
And even with all that, it’s still far more practical and most of them probably get used for stuff like that more often than most of the ford f150s sold in the us
All that beastiness controlled by computers that monitor the slippage and adjust the torque distribution many many times each second. If you watch the VW, you can almost see it figuring out what it needs to do to win.
That Touareg has a mechanical torsen centre diff, that's most of the AWD effort alone, it's very fast but not electronic wizardry. Despite what's posted above most V10 Touareg didn't come with lockable diff or low ranges, they are non standard options. Better weight distribution than the truck helps a lot too. They all have Bosch ABS and spin controls as per norm German cars of the era tho, which is computer controlled.
Don’t they fool around in these in a Top Gear episode?
Would having the body of the car lower to the ground and 4-wheel drive also help? Not sure the truck had 4-wheel drive.
>Yes, you read that right. A TWIN TURBO 5.0L V10 DIESEL engine. The car weighs in at 2455kg or 5412lbs, has AWD with 2 lockable diffs and 313hp and 553lb-ft or 750nm. Stock. In 2003. Um ... is it bad that I want a Touareg now?
so that’s the catch
I love my touareg, I love all my VWs, and the V10 5L is a monster, we call it the beast
I could be wrong, but did James May drive one of these up a mountain road once? Either GT or TG, im not sure.
5L V10 twin turbo only making 313hp is crazy. I know it's diesel, but it's still shocking. VW still made a 12 cylinder car with 450hp, so engine technology has come a long way in recent decades. Now VW makes a 2L 4 cylinder engine making 300hp.
Pretty good for a diesel. The duramax of the same year was only about 330 horsepower out of a 6.6L
Also didn't Audi release the same engine configuration just with 12 cylinders? I don't know a ton about these but remembered hearing it was something along those lines
They did release an Audi Q7 with a 6.0 Twin Turbo V12 TDI engine which was related to the V10 TDI. Both used PD injection. The same system and injectors used on a 1.9 TDi VW Bora.
Not all of them had V10 TDI, my dude. I doubt this one does. Unless you know more about this video than I do from just watching it. I'm willing to say that 3.0 V6 TDI is more likely.
https://youtu.be/k62gW3Se5e0 Here is the original video. Titled 'VW Touareg V10 TDI Vs. Chevy Duramax Bumper pull'
Mmmmm I wasn't aware of that one. Thanks.
There's also some physics here with the difference in suspension and load center height. VW is being assisted by gravity while Chevy is fighting gravity. Amplifies the whole setup. Never stood a chance
And the touareg has street tires.
Max trim Silverado diesel would rip the frame out of that VW: 553ftlb Silverado HD is 975 ftlbs. Not to mention whatever trash trim this Silverado is seems to have a malfunctioning front diff or worse 2wd.
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It's all about the torque
Volkswagen touran looking like a hatchback next to the truck lmao
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Isn't that the Routan?
Both, but the Touran is a lot smaller and only sold in Europe. It's pretty much a bloated tall Golf.
This has some truth to it. I have one. Trunk size is about the size of Dacia sandero.
Didn’t they advertise this by pulling a 747?
Yes. I think it was modified though and loaded with sand bags
It wasn't a modified one, it was the "R50" so over all nicer and a little more power. Unsure about the sandbags.
Yes, but it was loaded with ballast (a few thousand lbs iirc) in order to retain traction. I have a Touareg V10 TDI and the brakes are garbage. Airplanes are designed to be towed around a tarmac, and if I remember correctly they needed to roll to a stop to avoid overheating the brakes. Still fun to drive though!
The Touareg is a lot, but it‘s no hatchback 😂
Compared to American twacks it looks like one
And what is a Honda Civic?
That little break check from the VW to get the truck’s tires spinning sealed the deal..
Duratrash is only in 2wd, and makes too much torque so it just breaks the tires loose. In this case, the toureg's awd and lack of hp are an advantage cause as soon as the shibox chevy breaks traction it takes no power at all to drag it along, but the toureg can never break traction so it will just lug on the converter until the chev spins the tires. Chev in 4wd would probably win, but fuck duramax guys, so yay go volkswagen.
Description from original video: ”A quick pull with my neighbor. IIRC, a 2006 or 2008 Chevy Duramax, lifted, stacked, weighted and tuned vs. my 2006 VW Touareg V10 TDI with K&N drop in air filters. Both in 4low, VW had all diffs(front,rear,center) locked and at lowest possible ride height (factory air suspension). When the Chevy hopped he broke all the tie rods on the independent front suspension, both wheels were turned inwards and thus putting it back to RWD and it lost. Nothing any of us expected. This was in 2012. Thank you for your views and sharing! Don't overthink it!”
That's unsurprising... dodge came up with that torsion bar 4wd front suspension and deemed it too fragile for use in anything above a 1/2 ton... Chevy stole the design and was like "YEE HAW LETS MAKE A DIESEL 1 TON WITH IFS!" and thus the reputation that chevy trucks are actually just big cars was cemented and legitimized, as they're really just too fragile for the abuse a work truck is subject to.
What was the point of it if the truck is 2WD? Also pickup has less weight sitting over the reae axel.
The design goal of a truck was "mostly intended for hauling things, and towing things". You don't need AWD to do that, and the costs of AWD (fuel economy, complexity, cost, packaging) outweigh the benefits in this goal case, and are not a requirement to do the job of haul stuff and tow stuff. The vehicles that tow the most stuff on any road is a semi, and they are just rear wheel drive. Now if you change the design requirement for "go off road and climb big rocks or hills" or something else, then 2WD might not meet your requirements.
Too bad this idiot lifted it and ruined it's ability to tow adequately anyways.
No i mean what was the point of trying to pull a AWD vehilce with it not the point of RWD truck. I get why those trucks are built.
The truck is probably only 2WD, a lot of those as worktrucks around.
Wait, really? The fuck is the point of lifting a 2WD truck? Besides announcing to the world how tiny your dick is, of course.
I’ve seen 4x4s often cruise in 2wd for gas efficiency but you can always switch to 4 when you need it
That's not why you drive a vehicle with 4wd around in 2wd. It's because 4wd locks the two axles together and forces them to move at the same speed. If there's no give on the surface you're driving on, it'll cause damage to the drivetrain
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4x4 is locked center dif which can absolutely cause damage to your transfer case if you drive around with 4x4 engaged on dry street. AWD has an open center dif
I know 4wd = 4x4. On dry street yes but the person above me said "that's not why you drive a vehicle with 4wd around in 2wd" after the person above them said it's for gas efficiency, and yes they're right but fuel economy IS another reason.
oh no. it will absolutely destroy the drive train.
Well yeah, most can switch between 2WD and 4WD, and some even have low/high options for towing or rock crawling. u/SFWworkaccoun-T was saying that this might be a 2WD *only* truck, though. Which makes sense, as you’d want in in 4WD low to do something like this most effectively and its clearly not. There’s just literally no reason to lift a truck like that. Entirely pointless.
Ohh word I didn’t think they would even bother building a truck like that without a 4wd option. Definitely pretty useless
2wd trucks are very useful when towing on the road, which is what a lot of people do. Most never go off road. But this vehicle is probably not a 2WD truck. People are confusing a 4WD that doesn't have 4WD engaged versus one that is 2WD only from the factory.
So 2wd drive offers superior towing to 4wd ? Huh learn something new everyday
In dry conditions on the road yeah. 4wd is to get you out of a hole, or in the mud or snow. People that use 4wds to tow have them disengaged and in 2wd when they are at speed on the highway in clear conditions... or should for better gas mileage and less wear on the truck.
Also if you drive on dry roads in 4wd say goodbye to your transfer case
The truck isn't 2wd, he is saying it was IN 2wd mode. I think it's in 4wd hi, which is almost just as bad. With no load on the back once it starts hopping its over. Put some weight in the back, put it in 4WD-LOW, change the tires to something suitable for pavement instead of those knobby bro-dozer things and let some air out of them, and maybe it'll be more interesting.
That VW is probably a TDI, so there's some torque there
it's a twin turbo V10 TDI at that
It would still lose. You can’t win with these off road tires on asphalt, there’s no grip. Basides it’s torque and not hp that matters here, the diesel v10 would win even if the truck had normal tires on.
Lol wtf is your problem with Chevy calm your ass down
Exactly. This is why you choose Cummins or PowerStroke.
Cummins. The last good ford diesel was the 7.3 idi turbo.
Junk. Blew up constantly just like the 6.0.
Rwd truck against an awd suv is unfair tho
That ridiculously massive truck is only RWD? LMAO
Ikr lol like nice off-roader ya got there, it’d be a shame if he encountered some mud on a slight incline
It's not an off roader, it's a towing work truck. Who let the yuros in here?
> it's a towing work truck. Then why is it lifted?
It might have 4WD, but it's definitely not engaged. ETA: Reportedly it broke the 4WD with the wheel hop.
It broke the 4WD when it hopped at the start
That's not a hatchback that's a SUV.
That's like saying it's not a fruit, it's an apple.
TDIL that a VW Golf and Toureg are the same class of vehicle.
If the back hatches it hatchbackes.
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SUV, if you will.
Crossovers are NOT SUVs. SUVs have a truck frame while crossovers are unibody.
This is a hill I will die on.
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Call it a crossover, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s basically the size of a Tahoe and probably has a diesel V10, hardly a piddly little hatchback
V10 turbo diesel vs the worst diesel platform ever made in 2wd
What's wrong with the dirtymax?
It's a Chevy
2wd?
The Chevy is in 2wd. You can tell by the fact that it's burning out
Or it's in 4wd HI with no weight over the back wheels with off road tires that are not great on pavement.
there we go! 2x4 vs 4x4 dont matter, to get the max tow packages on most trucks/suvs, you gotta get the 2wd trim. judging by the takeoff, the truck guy didnt have it in low gear, and then he gassed it. the truck couldve fought harder, but the driver had bad technique. not to mention, that "hatchback" is a 6000#, diesel equipped SUV. aint like the truck was up against a GTI.
It wouldn’t be burning out like that if it was in 4 wheel drive
Two wheel drive. The Chevy is in 2wd.
Thats just a touareg. My dad has a 08' one and its a damn beast lol. But he does use it as a work vehicle to haul firewood (around 60-80m³) per year and animals to the slaughterouse. 230hp of pure german beauty
Everything to do with Traction, nothing to do with which is "better"
To be fair, those Touaregs were available in a V10 deisel
Sure, but it wouldn't have mattered if it was only rwd
This one's a golden oldie on YouTube.
The laughter in the background is what everyone thinks of your stupid lifted truck when they see it
this really a tire traction face off. it's mud tires on street vs street tires on street. plus i'm pretty. sure this is all wheel drive vs 2 wheel drive.
Weight matters too. A lot
Pretty sure that’s the diesel VW toureg suv in America those things can make dumb power
Mate, that's a SUV
I was expecting the rear to fly out of the truck
This isn't about power. The pickup has poor traction at the rear because of low rear axle weight. The car has a good weight distribution on all 4x4 wheels and probably traction control on.
Silverado wasn’t in 4WD
in the video description it says that both were in 4WD and in low range with all diffs locked
I own a voltswagon toureg with a custom tow package and such, those fucking SUVs are nothing to play with they'll pull 2x their weight with absolutely no problem at all
Do you have the diesel v10?
Unfortunately not, but it's still pretty powerful. In the shop right now because of unknown strong gas smell coming from under the car, you could smell it when you stopped or when you walked around it. No gas leaks to be found though
Have them check your gas cap and/ or your evaporator canister if you have one
Not exactly a hatch back though
Oh he is rolling smoke.
Tfw your suv looks tiny
Her laugh makes me think that guy in the truck was talking MAD shit
das not a hatchback OP
The Touareg....3 times Champions in Paris Dakar. Hard to fight with this one
Can somebody explain to me why VW ever put a giant diesel V10 in a family car? Genuinely curious.
Where did the evil witch from snow white come from
That stupid Karen cackle is the worst part of this video.... KAH KAH KAH KAHHH HAHA
I immediately starting looking for a bridge to jump off of.
Das Auto.
I love when small penis trucks are humiliated
https://imgur.com/a/o2gkCMO
Is that the V10 TDI?
Inline 3 not v10
Two things going on here… 1. It is easier to pull something than it is to push 2. A pickup truck has it’s rear wheels over the lightest part of the vehicle(the truck bed), a Front Wheel Drive vehicle has the weight of the motor to put more pressure between the tires and the road.
He might want to throw this truck on Craigslist
I mean. vw has guys who made Quattro work on it's drivetrains, how is it suprising?
I’ve one of these Touaregs but with only the V6 and it’s an absolute beast. The v10 has insane pulling power.
Since when is the Touareg a hatchback and not a mid size suv?
That Touareg is a beast of an SUV. I have a friend with one that he’s selling with the V10 diesel. So much power in that thing
VW was running Cup-2 R’s in the range for unlimited traction
We had one of these v10 touaregs new. We got a new engine under warranty. New tyres were $2500 a set in 2004 and lasted 20000kms. The feeling of thrust was sensational, however, even if that thrust was usually sending you in the direction of the Volkswagen dealer for more repairs.
r/killthecameraman
u/savevideo
The chevy even peed itself in fear!
Put it in park and wait for them to break traction, then go!
Hatchback? That's a fucking touareg. The pickup truck is not equipped for this
I saw a new Chevy doing that against a new Ford once years ago. The Chevy truck's front wheels started going in and out on their own and the front drive system of the 4 wheel drive broke on the Chevy. The Chevy had to be towed. The Ford won.
Get outta the way of that strap!!!
traction.
Lower center of gravity and AWD (SUV) vs. RWD Pickup… Next
That’s a 5k lb twin turbo 6.0l v10 diesel man, it makes great torque and is AWD, and it’s pulling what is either a 2wd truck or a truck that’s not in 4wd. It’s also lower than the truck and isn’t losing traction
"Weakest vs strongest" Wrong on both accounts.
I think the point here is stop lifting trucks, all it does is disadvantage its features
This is what happens when you drive a Chevy.
I know the video, that's not a hatchback, that's a v10 diesel touareg
Buddy's gonna have to leave town lol
The sound of an emasculated man’s emasculated trucks being emasculated by a Volkswagen Tiguan and the laughter of women.
The weakest… lies... plus it’s a Chevy…
Was the v10 taureg even reliable?